GCN Vs GTN | Can A Cyclist Beat A Triathlete In A Duathlon?
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2022
- GTN's very own Heather Fell takes on Manon from GCN in an inter-channel showdown for the ages! Can Manon hold her advantage from the bike? Or did Heather manage to limit her losses well enough to keep her within striking distance for the run?
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What would you like to see Heather and Manon compete in next?
bike n swim duathlon
A "triathlon" of sports that have zero swimming, biking, nor running. Olympic speed climbing/ target shooting/ archery... for example
Judging by the speed Heather overtook me a couple of weeks ago on a XC race, I recon some outside Run/Bike orienteering would be great fun & suits both of their strengths.
When I first heard the 100m vs 20m I knew Heather would win by a lot. 50m vs 20m would be more balanced between the run vs bike
Let's see Manon and Heather in a water/bike challenge
The video we want to see: GTN vs GCN vs GMBN in a gravel/trail tri! Maybe switch the swim for a paddle as the great equaliser.
GTN can select James with experience racing at XTERRA...
Do you obey traffic laws? Does your mama?
@@trailrunplanet Do you obey traffic laws?
@@martinkent333 My mama? It's difficult to obey traffic laws when you're dead.
@@trailrunplanet Mine too. Cyclists are unable to talk about their love of traffic laws. You Too?
Great race guys, who wants a rematch? 🤔
Name the game and date, we'll be ready 😏
Dan vs Mark!!
Long course 😎
Come on Manon we need to see a rematch! I know you have it in you to win with a little more running!
Kudos Heather for some well disciplined pacing!
Kudos Manon for stepping up to an un-practiced challenge.
Great effort from the ladies, super impressed. But I do have to support Manon here because bikes are only about 3 times faster than runners, not five times! This scoring favoured runners. The ratio should have been 1 point for every 33m for runners and 100m for the bike.! Would have meant that Heather still won by 9 points rather than absolutely thrashing her and potentially made it a more interesting race for Manon to push Heather to the very wire.
Good point, but I think you also have to keep in mind that the bike time was longer than the running time. This compensates the point differences
@@MrRammsteinfan09 Ah, yep, agree. Manon had more time to build a gap I see what you mean. Gutted, she got thrashed.
I rooted for Manon, but boy, Heather is a beast.. she paced it like a swiss watch.
Since Manon got to that maxim HR I knew the triathlete is gonna win.. they are way better at pacing themselves :). Love their work! they worked harder in a day than I did in my last race plan, lol.
I would like to see a boys v girls relay, Manon bike plus Heather running against Ollie bike plus Dan running
With dans poor fitness that would be unfair
Dan is a quality runner
It seems to me that someone wants to see Ollie getting dropped again hahaha.
Or Ollie running? 😄
@@garybc that's what I wanna see 😂
I love when we get a GTN vs. GCN video!
This was great and very interesting to watch you both, thank you 😊
Oh man! You ladies are ultra competitive! Love the vid! More running for the bike guys! Blake of GMBN next? 😃
Yes girls, cracking effort! great to see you both maxing it
Top video. Signed up for the zwift duathlon series again this year. A great tune up!
Good luck!
Awesome work from both!! 😎👌🏻👍🏻💯
Love these races, should've had the screens back to back though.
Nice one! You should do another round but with run first, GCN could use their advantage in the last leg.
This was a very fun challenge to watch. The point based Zwift duathlon was interesting, too, evening out the diciplines in a clear and understandable way. I'd enjoy more of this kind of content.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Are we gonna see Heather in the Velodrome?
Also would really like to see a GCN vs GMBN vs GTN vs EMBN cycle-ball tournament. Maybe as a mini-series for next years indoor worlds?
LOVED this and yeah am inspired. Am nearly a year late but hey. More videos GCN/GTN/Heather/Manon 🎉
Bit early but Happy Christmas!
Congratulations!
Both of you were very 💪!
Very inspiring!
Thank you so much!
Heather just killing it on the run, great effort. Feel a little sorry for Manon. Well done both of you.
Do you obey traffic laws? Does your family?
@@martinkent333 On Zwift? I'm guessing not...
You knew Heather was going to be tough to beat when she set off at 16kph - I figured Manon would struggle to stay within 300m. It seemed a little unfair to rack up a 1500m lead and then have that cut down to 300...
Awesome vid 👍
two of my favourite presenters head to head. Bravo. Zwift looks pretty amazing. Now I just trying to figure out how to tell my wife I need this Zwift in the gym. I know I hide it, she'll never se it. LOL Cheers people, one day I may be blessed with Zwift.
Nice job to both of you!!!
Love this challenges but unfair for Manon with the climb on the bike! But anyway, beautiful to see you you pushing hard for a funny content 😉
Manon+Heather= instant like
I knew Heather would pull it off if the race was on even terms with no big advantages going to either of them. both are great athletes, that race was very entertaining.
Manon did well as she doesn't do any running. You can get away with it on a bike. Running is extremely difficult if you don't train.
Way to go! So great to see you two out there when so many cycling videos feature men :)
Sorry Heather, as a cyclist I have to side with Manon - she was robbed! 😜😅
Ps, love how you mention it’s warmer inside - here in Aus I’m always trying to make it cooler! 😅
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Great video as usual!
I’m in a bit of a dilemma go with a Canyon Speedmax since I have a road bike or go with a Canyon Aeroad.
PS not doing a dua/triathlon anytime soon at the time 🤔
If you're not trying to be competitive in triathlon, there's no reason to get a triathlon bike. They're great for the sport, but otherwise inferior to a road bike for everyday/general use.
@@patrickbrennan2002 Thank you for the clear answer! 🙏🏽
Great fun! As far as i can tell both GCN and GTN seem to be Bath based? so why not get outside and a few miles down the road for the chilly duathlon at Castle combe in a few weeks for a rerun. I started running last January and bought a £100 road bike a few months ago and after riding my first few rides after atleast a 30 year gap thought this would be a good idea! Really Really hoping not to come last!
I love these cross channel challenges
That was really cool content. I am training for my first ever duathlon right now. Any general tips ?
Watch gtn clips
I would love a gtn Zwift shirt
Can we talk about how fast those runs were so soon after coming off the bike, especially for Manon as a beginner 🤯 well done!
crazy fast
Wahoo needs to build a swimming trainer so Zwift can finally provide Triathlon 😁
Great these cross over programes
I love how half the episodes on these channels are just the presenters hurting each other with challenges
190bpm & look so calm? what a machine!
1:30 : like Manon, some of us wants Tron shoes too 😅🤤
I would be interested in watching a rematch and considering Manon is a sprinter, it would only be fair if the rematch was something like track sprinting on the bike with no running.
Manon went ham at the start of the run lol! Well done ladies! I'm impressed how you two are bone dry after all these rigorous activities.
What a great video
Thanks!
I’d like to see an adjustment of relative times to even it up then go run followed by bike to see if Manon could catch the challenger?
Great video but point for the run where to high Heathers ran at 15.8 Km/h and if you factor in the distance difference per point of 5 to 1 and multiply the run speed by this that would mean a ridding speed of 79km/h just seems a little bit to much in favour of the run.
35 minutes vs 15, so if you're going to convert like that you'd get 34kph which is much more sensible.
But there is a main difference between running and biking. The power/speed relationship is linear for running whereas it's squared for biking (a 20% increase in power will lead to a 20% speed increase for running and a 9.5% speed increase for biking). When you factored that in a ratio of 3 would be better. (I get a ratio of 2.9 exactly when considering that biking is 2.5 times faster than running)
@@jackmajhand9463 Yes I totally agree (although actually for biking it's a cubic relation), but a typical real duathlon has about the same duration of bike and run (usually it's 5/20/5 or 10/40/5) which makes the run more important, and also means you should run at a slightly higher intensity than you bike.
Not sure if this has been answered somewhere, if so, I wasn't able to find it.
Is there any way to get the GTN kit on Zwift?
Go team GCN! Go Manon! Great job to both.
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Liked the blue shirt!
I did one of these events las year, it’s the only time I’ve done a race on a treadmill. Going shirtless, I had sweat drops all over the room. Be warned haha.
Favours the run but these type of events and duathlon/triathlon always do. Runners predominate these sports. Still fun to watch though.
What treadmills were you using?
Does anyone know how to get the GTN Kit on Zwift?
Heather should be used to doing brick sessions whereas Manon probably isn’t. Would have been more interesting seeing this done outside properly.
In love with Manon😍
For this to be more evenly matched, from my own experience, I believe that the run should have counted 10 points for every 25m. and the cycle 10 points for every 100m.
Now that they know the speed differences, they can adjust the distances to get "even" times and race again. But have them ride the full distance, get off the bikes, then run around a track. It'll be a true, head-to-head race at that point.
Great vid. But ....
They should both be using the same bikes. Heather's bike has an advantage over the Zwift TT.
And don't do a route that has a dirt climb. Should do something like Tempus.
I want to see gcn vs gbbo (great British bake off) you basically ride on zwift and eat as many scones as possible in an hour
Both awsome but Heather always had the advantage coming from a multi sports background
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Heather is the best in GTN and GCN and everything
I would like to see GMBN vs GCN in a sprint Triathlon.
Didn't know there was such a thing as the Global Triathlon Network, now that's what I call a niche channel! 😂
#gtncoachescorner Inspired by Heather, I'm doing RTTS in a single day and using RTTC over two days as a practice session. I'm expecting around 6 hours for day one, what would you recommend for end of day fuelling? What is the best split protein vs carbs to recover and be ready for day two?
Manon was disadvantaged in the run. She was wearing her beat up old NIKE's while Heather had her brand new carbon plated super shoes on! DO-OVER!
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I wish they turned screens so they couldn’t peep during the race. That’s be more real - you can’t see a competitors power or speed when racing.
Wow, I'd have to be in a jail cell before I'd use a treadmill to play a sub-zwift level game like that.
How about a super league style race??
MANNNNOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNN 😍
Mark v Hank next?
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I didn't know bikes on zwift are more than just an aesthetic choice. So with lvl progression/time spent come better bikes? It's not just about the power you physically put into the device? So basically it's a video game. Next thing you're telling me you can just buy better bikes with "premium currency" instead of winning them trough ingame progress.
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Why not have an actual race though?
Girl power 😉
Is it a idee to make somme kind of discord, so people can just ask help and comunicate with each other, and share stories.
so if you don't know somme thing about like swimming you can just ask it to others.
GTN + GCN do relay triathlon.
Perhaps one day!
The disparity in points between cycling and running is far too severe. A runner is far more likely to do better on the run than a cyclist would do in the cycling part, if you know what I mean :-)
Athletes are masochists!
Points system doesn't seem very fair. Best get out there and do a proper physical challenge.
Manon's way better on the bike while Heather's way better on the run.
Think it’s time to take on the MTB’er’s.
is all the background music really necessary
Heart rate ...most cyclist hv higher hr when they're on the bike which will affect them on the run. They're not used to having to run off the bike...cadence diff btw triathlete vs cyclist
As I understand it, cadence should be same, with triathlete moving to higher cadence towards end of bike in readiness for the run
this is just an advert for swift
Of course a triathlete would win, doing 2 disciplines that they train for while the cyclist only had a single discipline in which they excel.
But in terms of absolute distance it's 19km + 3.13km for Manon and 17.5km + 3.9km for Heather. So Manon wins, with 22.13km to Heather's 21.4km. GCN FTW.
why not just have them do the same distance
Of course not. The last time a cyclist ran, was probably after the bus. I never stop saying that triathlon is not a simple sum of sports, but something completely different. If you don't even practice all those sports, the results are very predictable.
Honestly unfair to put someone who doesn't run up against someone who does, as it is much easier to gain distance in a run than it is whilst cycling and running is just much tougher to perform in than on the bike with less skill, otherwise video was great.
@heather: is it possible your cranks are to long? Looks like a lot rocking in your pelvis...
Indoor bikes don’t move, and in the real world your bike moves side to side with you, so you can’t always read too much into it on hard efforts like that.
@@jonathanzappala totally agree but Manon on the other side stays stable all the time
Reving like a total beast
Is it wrong to be fascinated and besotted by you two? Please, please keep up the GTN/GCN collabs. Freaking brilliant!
Take a mountain bike not a TT bike for the dirt, it is much more efficient!!!
Manon will win easily.
Bit of a unfair points bias on running. A poor cyclist on a good bike won’t be that far behind. A poor runner will take a hour to do 10k.
Indoor cycling is lame, but indoor running is even lamer
No sense.. there's no way a cyclist can get enogh advantage to defend the run leg with a triathlete, within the same level of course
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that music is really annoying
So hippo’s can run faster than humans and swim faster than humans…. if your going to beat one in a triathlon then you have to do it on the bike.
I think the rule is bikes have to be shorter than 2m so the hippo is out of luck haha.
Tbh there watts per kilo was pretty low
If you're going to criticise, then maybe learn the difference between there and their first.
Not sure what your point is? Compared to what?
Yours must be so superior
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