MacBook Pro 16 Review - M1 Worth The Hype?

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @JarrodsTech
    @JarrodsTech  2 года назад +128

    Massive thanks to Hardware Unboxed for lending their MacBook Pro 16 to me to review! Tim has done more in-depth screen testing with this laptop, check it out next: ruclips.net/video/p2xo-hDCgZE/видео.html

    • @vamc_krishna
      @vamc_krishna 2 года назад

      Pls cover the lower end variants of gaming laptops please

    • @hassanr4887
      @hassanr4887 2 года назад +3

      Amazing video but I have two comments
      1- you could have tested WoW or baldur gate 3 which are m1 native
      2- memory prices actually is not bad considering it is LPDDR5 and increasing it means increasing the gpu memory as well. No other laptop has comparable video memory. This is useful for huge 3d rendering projects

    • @bfish9700
      @bfish9700 2 года назад +2

      I was gonna say, having done business with apple in a professional capacity, can't believe they'd sent you a review unit. . .

    • @chainsapphire9526
      @chainsapphire9526 2 года назад

      Anyone, my laptops ssd capacity is 512GB but when i searched crucial for upgradedability it tops 1TB to 2TB. Will i buy a 1Tb!?

    • @HanmaHeiro
      @HanmaHeiro 2 года назад +1

      My best guess for the notch size is that they plan on putting the face ID tech in there but didn't want to have a difference in the notch cutout now or in the future when they do it

  • @batsai
    @batsai 2 года назад +56

    As a long time Mac user (for work) and PC (for gaming), I have to give credit to Jarrod- this was an extremely fair, factual, and impartial review. I really appreciate Jarrod mentioning the performance on battery, something a lot of PC laptop reviewers miss. Very professional as always- thank you!

  • @shirokuro73
    @shirokuro73 2 года назад +158

    What a very fair and detailed review - as I've come to expect from you! I love to see you covering stuff a little outside the traditional gaming sphere - your talent cannot be constrained! I personally own one of these, and while I still use Windows machines for gaming and my day job, using the Macbook feels like driving a luxury car. Probably my favourite feature is the battery and the sleep/wake functionality. I can go days without using it and the second I open the lid - boom - it's right there, barely any battery has been drained, and I can use it instantly. It's a different paradigm than I use on Windows, where I absolutely never trust sleep/wake, and always shut down and startup between major usage sessions. I almost never shut down or restart the Macbook. It sounds like a small thing, but to me it's a game changer. Love your channel!

    • @AlejandroLZuvic
      @AlejandroLZuvic 2 года назад +8

      It's something we MacBook users take for granted, like you said, not a big deal! But every time I get to see a PC person taking out their laptop and waiting a few momentos for just, well... start using it, it feels odd.

    • @shayan9571
      @shayan9571 2 года назад +6

      I use my lenovo legion 7 laptop like that no problem at all, can hold the battery while sleep for days, what are you talking about?

    • @justbecause3187
      @justbecause3187 2 года назад +2

      @@shayan9571 I guess you turned off the shut down timer? Makes sense I guess, if you need it at a moments notice.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 года назад +3

      @@shayan9571 My Galaxy Book Pro 360 will lose around 12% plus a day when closed but will instant wake, and then shut off after those three days for a reboot. I doubt you get instant wake after three days with zero battery drain as I have tested many Windows machines and that does not happen. For instance a SP8 will power down after a few hours and will reboot when you reopen.

    • @shayan9571
      @shayan9571 2 года назад +8

      @@andyH_England that's my experience, lol and i havs windows hello as well unlike mac and i can get back to my laptop faster, btw i didn't say it doesn't lose any batter (after 3 days maybe like 10 percent which is crazy for a gaming laptop) and it boots up fast, idk u guys sound like y'all still using windows xp laptops lol

  • @therichon9007
    @therichon9007 2 года назад +111

    Finally not just a fanboys perspective and some interesting things a lot of other creators didnt told us.
    Very good Video i enjoy your content a lot.

    • @AdityaGupta-om8ez
      @AdityaGupta-om8ez 2 года назад +26

      Very true.
      I often see a lot reviews of Apple products are either fanboy perspective or hater perspective.
      Happy to see a unbiased review

    • @abilawaandamari8366
      @abilawaandamari8366 2 года назад +7

      @@AdityaGupta-om8ez yeah I noticed that too. It's similar to most users tbh, they either love and breath apple products or absolutely hates them. Very rarely they're jusy treated objectively as a product.

  • @hiimdan662
    @hiimdan662 2 года назад +96

    "One of those things I'm too Windows user to be doing properly" bruh🤣🤣

    • @j03y224
      @j03y224 2 года назад +1

      I felt this 🤣

  • @zyanchuah
    @zyanchuah 2 года назад +21

    i love how the video length is 16 mins 10 secs, and the aspect ratio is also 16:10. coincidence? i think not

  • @gibingeorge3352
    @gibingeorge3352 2 года назад +19

    2:27 So, you can say that the Macbook Pro is, *top* *notch!*
    Yeah, I'm leaving..

  • @Invictus-on2ie
    @Invictus-on2ie 2 года назад +7

    11:40 I think it's also worth noting that games, apart from not being natively made for ARM architecture, are also massively unoptimised for MacOS. I ran Tomb Raider on my M1 MacBook Air, and then ran it again through Windows using Parallels, and there was a massive difference of about 15-2p fps + no stuttering.

  • @TheEverydayDad
    @TheEverydayDad 2 года назад +62

    Loved it!

  • @tommybazar
    @tommybazar 2 года назад +55

    I've just recently started using MacOS because of switching to a new job (developing for iOS) and I feel exactly the same way as you. The differences are small, but I just don't feel at home using the OS.
    Nevertheless, MacOS definitely has advantages over Windows and I hope that this competition will lead to both of the OSes implementing the best features from the other one in the long run.
    Same with the sillicon, I'm SO glad that Apple entered the sillicon market and is threatening Intel and AMD in their own game and I'm extremely looking forward to Intel releasing their GPUs for the same reason. Finally, newcomers coming in and breaking the decades-old duopolies! We might be entering a new golden age of hardware improvement :)

    • @1337Superfly
      @1337Superfly 2 года назад +2

      This really is good for us consumers.
      Personally I welcome the newcomers, increased competition and indeed the new golden age of hardware innovation💪

    • @matix676
      @matix676 2 года назад +5

      And what advantages does MacOS have over Windows? Because if it's about looks, you can literally install skins on Windows, that would resemble the one that apple has. Not like I understand why would anyone do that from their own free will, but each for their own.

    • @nellatl
      @nellatl 2 года назад +1

      @@matix676 Macos just works all the time. No issues or bsod like windows. You just turn it on and get straight to work. However, it's Macos is over twice the price of a comparable Thinkpad. So I switched to Thinkpad but still miss osx sometimes. And I use Linux and windows

    • @battlebuddy4517
      @battlebuddy4517 2 года назад +1

      Apple is not in the same game as Intel and amd last time I checked I can't get a m1 chip inside a ThinkPad 😂

    • @Gus_Ellerm
      @Gus_Ellerm 2 года назад

      @@matix676 One primary one is that it is UNIX based.

  • @dandiaz19934
    @dandiaz19934 2 года назад +16

    "The memory pricing is approaching scam-tier" hahahaha
    way too true

    • @itsloganbtw5355
      @itsloganbtw5355 2 года назад

      It’s technically DDR5 though.

    • @TheStopwatchGod
      @TheStopwatchGod 2 года назад +1

      @@itsloganbtw5355 DDR5-6400

    • @aninditabasak7694
      @aninditabasak7694 2 года назад

      @@TheStopwatchGod LPDDR5 6400. That’s why it has more bandwidth and consumes less power.

  • @sighheinrich
    @sighheinrich 2 года назад +44

    I've used MacOS for 10 years now, and I still find some things quite weird. For me, it's way slower to work in MacOS than in Windows.
    Due to the high prices of the new Macbook Pro's I will probably switch back to a Windows laptop for my next laptop.. Even though I doubt a Windows laptop will last 10 years, like my current MBPro has :)

    • @chuboasshippo2181
      @chuboasshippo2181 2 года назад +4

      Yea I had to use it in school my whole life. I never liked it much either

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 года назад +5

      It was the other way around for me. I tested Windows and Macs with my workflow and I was much more productive with a Mac. I suspect that was because I was in the ecosystem but maybe also that I just liked how it works compared to W7/8 when I moved over. W10 now and W11 are a lot more refined and mac-like (virtual desktops and such like) so they are closer than they have ever been, but for me it is the devil you know, and Mac is my goto device still.

    • @NOT_A_TOP_FAN
      @NOT_A_TOP_FAN 2 года назад +6

      Yep. Been on the new MacBook Pro for a month, and while the battery and NEVER hearing a fan is fantastic…. It is a beat down to navigate things in MacOS. Shortcuts are hard to form muscle memory and trying to remember command, option command, shift - option - command… sometimes it just seems a bit much. after so many years with Windows, navigating within Apps in a apple is is very cumbersome… you can Alt tab but not seeing individual windows of each open App sucks…and then sometimes Apps are hidden and aren’t even visible with Alt tab. So yeah, the MacBook is a great laptop, but the MacOS experience just isn’t that great for me….

    • @AlejandroLZuvic
      @AlejandroLZuvic 2 года назад +2

      @@NOT_A_TOP_FAN there is a shortcut to navigate different windows of the same app, although I agree it works terribly when some windows is hidden. One thing I like about macOS is that you can customize almost any shortcut, except copy and paste I think. But yeah, even stuff like switching desktops, calling Mission Control, all those shortcuts are customizable.
      I like macOS because there's a real UNIX Terminal and it comes with zsh and many other tools I use as a developer. Most of the time I forget about the OS, and with Homebrew it's just like Linux. I know there's Windows for Linux Subsystem but the last time I tried it didn't work for my use cases very well.
      Really, if Apple could improve macOS' window management, that'd make the system great.

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 2 года назад +3

      I mean you can find 2007 WINDOWS machines that can be upgraded to W10 right now... It about not buying something cheap and taking care of it
      And unlike Mac's they tend to have longer lifespans due to software support

  • @bakedbrotatoes
    @bakedbrotatoes 2 года назад +9

    Excellent balanced review. As a software engineer, having a fast laptop with great battery life is critical. Thanks for considering my use case, this was never meant to compete with high power gaming laptops.

    • @aninditabasak7694
      @aninditabasak7694 2 года назад

      But for video editing and 3D rendering this is one of the best laptops especially with M1 Max.

  • @thebizzle413
    @thebizzle413 2 года назад +7

    I recently purchased this laptop but Amazon sent me the 1tb option by mistake. It is a great laptop and for gaming I have an XSX. The only gaming on the go I can play is emulation.

  • @christang9406
    @christang9406 2 года назад +2

    13:38 thanks for the genuine review Jarrod 😀

  • @jfjf-yn6wj
    @jfjf-yn6wj 2 года назад +7

    That battery life is quite impressive

  • @icantsee0
    @icantsee0 2 года назад +13

    Finally a review i can trust.

  • @achhabra2
    @achhabra2 2 года назад +2

    Finally not another fanboy video. Give credit but also acknowledged shortcomings. Nice one!

  • @PodaiKofa
    @PodaiKofa 2 года назад +7

    i'd gladly pay more to have THESE SPEAKERS in other laptops

    • @AlejandroLZuvic
      @AlejandroLZuvic 2 года назад +1

      The speakers are seriously in another level entirely, like in "I didn't imagine it was possible to put these speakers in a laptop" kind of thing. My reaction when I listened to a RUclips music video on my 14-inches was the same as Jarrod's: "holy sh*t".

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 2 года назад +7

    Jarrod reviewing a MacBook Pro!? What kind of reality did I enter? 😳
    Seriously though, great to hear a different take on the MacBook Pros!

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  2 года назад +2

      Welcome to another dimension 😵

  • @randy89555
    @randy89555 2 года назад +8

    To me who tried Windows, Ubuntu and Mac last several years, windows (10, not 11) seemed to be most user-friendly. Mac os didn't feel comfortable and I couldn't get used to it having been using even for months.

    • @judecider
      @judecider 2 года назад +1

      The keyboard on a Mac is enough to make me turn the other way.

    • @ACE112ACE112
      @ACE112ACE112 2 года назад +1

      No snapping and sucky full-screen mode are big turn-offs

    • @ACE112ACE112
      @ACE112ACE112 2 года назад

      @@judecider the older keyboards were decent.

    • @aninditabasak7694
      @aninditabasak7694 2 года назад

      @@ACE112ACE112 The newer Magic Keyboard is one of the best keyboards to type on, even better than the older scissor mechanism keyboards not to mention butterfly keyboards which are long dead.

  • @MarbsMusic
    @MarbsMusic 2 года назад +4

    Excellent review! After no using MacOS since the late 90s (did from 84 to 97 or so) I traded for an M1 Air. I enjoyed it so much I bought a MBP 16" upon release and have been very happy. I have 4 son and have been building PCs since the late 80s so we have multiple gaming PCs and 3 of them have gaming laptops with my youngest running an XPS 15 (2021 model i9). Doing more creative work the MBP is truly phenomenal but with the battery life I'm simply used it more as a laptop than any other laptop I've owned over the past 30 something years. I hate having to plug in all the time and my last laptop, Alienware 15" (10th gen i7, 2060) burned through the battery, like most gaming laptops in quick order. As I don't play a lot of FPS anymore the MBP runs the games I play (WoW, Diablo, FFXIV) just fine...
    I don't see Apple, maybe I'll be wrong in a few years, ever truly focus on gaming so I'm sure I'll always have a Windows gaming desktop but from a laptop perspective, this is the best all around I've ever owned. It did take me a bit to get use to MacOS again but one of the pluses is that it's also based upon BSD/NeXT so you have the terminal and scripting options of UNIX if you want to take advantage of those.
    I was so excited to see this video as you are my go to source on gaming laptops and your review have helped a great deal over the years in purchasing decisions for the boys.

  • @Yu-dp5hp
    @Yu-dp5hp 2 года назад +2

    Finale, I’ve been waiting for this

  • @Piketom1
    @Piketom1 2 года назад +11

    One point about the display, the resolution is not random. Apple's retina displays are designed to offer perfect 2:1 scaling at approximately 220ppi. The resolution of the 15" macbook pro that came before the 16" was 2560x1800. Apple scaled that so the image looked like 1440x900. The 16.2" display is slightly larger than the 15.4" model used when retina was first introduced. To offer the same 2:1 scaling with the same ppi on the larger display, the resolution had to increase to 3456x2234. This scales to look like 1728x1117 in the default setting.

    • @AlejandroLZuvic
      @AlejandroLZuvic 2 года назад +1

      Yes, although these new screens bumped the PPIs to 254. BTW, I think the "retina" resolution in the MacBooks are the sweet spot, they aren't 4k (which is ridiculous in a screen this size) but it's way more than 1440p.

  • @BARCH-wp5vl
    @BARCH-wp5vl 2 года назад +2

    There are too many RUclipsrs who only video editing praised it at the level of sun as it is the most powerful laptop.

  • @elemento489
    @elemento489 2 года назад

    It's Suprising How much effort U put in these great and accurate videos!

  • @_CharlieHarper
    @_CharlieHarper 2 года назад +34

    The new Macbook Pro IS really impressive with that M1 processor - what a grand shame, the Bootcamp is not applicable here. I still have my older Macbook Pro Retina from 2013 with Bootcamp. If there was Bootcamp applicable, I would go and buy this. I simply need to have both MacOSX and Windows on this machine to have the price justified. Therefore I decided to go for the Razer Blade 17 with 4k, which resembles "Windows machine with Apple design" ... and yes, you CAN upgrade both SSDs and both RAM slots here, which is impossible with Apple. They simply push too hard on their customers to upgrade, upgrade and upgrade ...

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 года назад

      You do know that if you had boot camp you could only use Windows on ARM (WOA)? That is quite restrictive and still a work in progress. I am not sure MS would License this as it would kill off their plan for WOA for later this year when they are due to get much better hardware.

    • @ssarver1672
      @ssarver1672 2 года назад +1

      Parallels for a Windows VM is a great alternative.

    • @kninezbanks
      @kninezbanks 2 года назад +1

      @@andyH_England Windows 11 on Arm has native x64 support/emulation that will only get better in the future so that shouldn't be much of a problem....I'll wait for the M3 max before I buy

    • @Ash-fm6ym
      @Ash-fm6ym 2 года назад +1

      Razer after sales service is pathetic though

  • @unknownpawner1994
    @unknownpawner1994 2 года назад

    3:26 Everyone gangsta until Jarrod curses in a review video

  • @AndreiAnastasescu
    @AndreiAnastasescu 2 года назад +1

    Very objective review, congrats!

  • @CreatedTech
    @CreatedTech 2 года назад +34

    I hear the new MacBooks are pretty good.

    • @SpeedGamerJ
      @SpeedGamerJ 2 года назад

      hello

    • @Romash.
      @Romash. Год назад

      how's your close relationship with tim going on

  • @masx4813
    @masx4813 2 года назад +1

    damn bruh, finally something different in your channel
    just watching for your objectivity, and your best review

  • @poemontyperacer
    @poemontyperacer 2 года назад +21

    Despite the terrible game support, upgradability, repairability, hefty pricing, and less than impressive port selection, I really wish gaming laptop brands learned from this device's amazing battery life, build quality, battery power performance, form factor, screen, low fan noise, power brick and speakers

    • @shayan9571
      @shayan9571 2 года назад +18

      There's nothing to learn, it has a great battery life because it has a different chip architecture (arm), it's like sayin car manufacturers should learn from bicycle manufacturers because bicycles use less fuels than cars

    • @poemontyperacer
      @poemontyperacer 2 года назад +1

      I probably don't realise the extent to which arm differs from other chips. Maybe it's a very long shot, but I feel like if a solution offers dramatically improved battery life with similar performance, there definitely **is** something to learn from it.

    • @poemontyperacer
      @poemontyperacer 2 года назад

      True, tee jay. Though I can't shake the feeling that with apple, we're always overpaying a little, compared to other brands. Would be nice to see another brand offer their take at a device with some of these strong points, and maybe less of Apple's flaws -- even if it might end up targeting as small a niche of customers as the macbook does.

    • @poemontyperacer
      @poemontyperacer 2 года назад +1

      As I'm writing this, I'm starting to realise what such a device would look like (excepting arm), and that gives me a beginning of an answer as to why nobody does it. I dunno. My gut feeling is that gaming laptops are ugly and not so well rounded, but these are interesting times for them, and that's becoming less and less true. I'll wait and see

    • @DerpEye
      @DerpEye 2 года назад +6

      There's nothing to learn from it for gaming laptops. It's not a gaming laptop. It's basically a smartphone in a notebook format, hardware wise. What i want from a gaming laptop is power (in games), good specs, upgradability, good price. All of which this macbook is lacking. You should compare this with the likes of Thinkpad and such, not Legion (talking about Lenovo for ex.).

  • @desertstriker8
    @desertstriker8 2 года назад

    Love the review and what a great T-shirt and band!!

  • @TallyHoTech
    @TallyHoTech 2 года назад +4

    Jarrods like. Oh no it’s finally happen.
    Gaming laptops have made me deaf.
    I can’t hear this Max.

  • @Yu-dp5hp
    @Yu-dp5hp 2 года назад +4

    3:36 you can adjust the force of the click in settings

    • @AlejandroLZuvic
      @AlejandroLZuvic 2 года назад +1

      The first thing I do in my Macbooks is to activate three-finger drag and tap to click.
      I've always found the "push to drag" thing kind of hard, like you can do it but compared to all the other gestures which are kinda magical... yeah, in comparisson you need to put to much effort on dragging.

    • @adredy
      @adredy 2 года назад

      No

  • @vncube1
    @vncube1 2 года назад +15

    While the recent Macbooks' design approach and use cases won't appeal to many Windows users, it still would be interesting to see a competing high end Windows ARM laptop or Chromebook.

    • @timm1583
      @timm1583 2 года назад +1

      I don't know about that, it crushes all others in battery life. It also can handle most window users workload assuming you don't game or use Excel all day ( I don't understand this program was on apple first and has never worked right on any Mac ever🤷).

    • @richard35791
      @richard35791 2 года назад +2

      @@timm1583 keyword, mac is simply not for gamers

    • @vncube1
      @vncube1 2 года назад +5

      @@timm1583 3D rendering, gaming, large excel worksheets, hardware upgradeability/repairability for storage and RAM, IO port count, form factor diversity, no teething pains with the OS migrating to ARM, machine learning.
      The battery life is huge... and so is the price.

    • @zoovy7252
      @zoovy7252 2 года назад

      @@timm1583 machine learning kinda sucks on m1 mac ngl

  • @SimplicityForGood
    @SimplicityForGood 2 года назад +3

    Then one must wonder at how many battery cycles will this Macbook go down in performance!? At 300 cycles? And how many battery cycles can it complete! The past MacBooks been said to have about 1000 cycles per battery… are these new macbooks in that level too or have they made the batteries last a lot longer, and if so, how did they make that work?!
    My macbook 12 inch battery lasted on a great performance level 2-3 years but the last 4 years after that was a horror… I sold it in january for 550 euro and had paid about 18000 euro for it in 2015 November,,,, now I need to upgrade and wish the Macbook Air will come with an M2 chip that will be good to handle one core projects….

  • @vamc_krishna
    @vamc_krishna 2 года назад

    Yo Jarrod quality videos man

  • @negraiacatalin6595
    @negraiacatalin6595 2 года назад

    I still love my Macbook Pro 15" 2012 (upgraded to 8Gb RAM and 500Gb SSD)

  • @joesalyers
    @joesalyers 2 года назад +1

    Wow not the review I was expecting when I saw this. I use an M1 Max Macbook for work and I was really curious what you thought of it! Bravo for such a balanced review.

  • @chiarafernando4772
    @chiarafernando4772 2 года назад

    Is it getting heated when watching lot of videos or when playing games?

  • @BARCH-wp5vl
    @BARCH-wp5vl 2 года назад +3

    Coding and video rendering were M1 shines but does Ok job on graphical workloads and is capable of running 1650 level gaming performance in supported games.

    • @chriswright8074
      @chriswright8074 2 года назад

      Yeah on a lockdown os and platform to bad you can use the M1 nativity on windows

    • @timm1583
      @timm1583 2 года назад +1

      1650 is pretty close to current amd and Intel integrated graphics

    • @dr.muhamedv.m2991
      @dr.muhamedv.m2991 2 года назад +1

      @@timm1583 intel what?

  • @Snakyy1
    @Snakyy1 2 года назад +1

    6:07 those are only air intake vents
    6:38 it only slows down the charging when you're not using the laptop, so like at night. It stops charging at 80%, then depending on what time you unplug the laptop it'll charge it so it'll be 100% for when you plug it out.

  • @chrism9643
    @chrism9643 2 года назад +1

    It's refreshing to hear about the mac from a gaming laptop reviewer

  • @ina4148
    @ina4148 Год назад +1

    Using this for work. I got a top spec version. 64 gb rams - top of the line. I edit video as a living, and do the occational motion graphics, and opted for top specs, so we hopefully wont have to replace it anytime soon. It is great for pretty much everything exept the lack of hard disk space. Buying extra hard disk space with these machines is just ridiculously expensive. It feels foolish to have this beast of a machine to work on, and then having to meticulously manage every project to avoid running out of space.

    • @j.o.s.h.o
      @j.o.s.h.o Год назад

      feel like review deeply. What amount of storage did you opt for?

    • @ciasa9488
      @ciasa9488 Год назад +1

      @@j.o.s.h.o I have 2TB. But sometimes film hours of footage, and using uncompressed video just takes up a lot of space.

  • @smoche
    @smoche 2 года назад +10

    14:22 I personally think they went with the bigger notch because face id is planned for future devices and having a smaller notch now and increasing it later would just be a double backlash drama situation so they went for a larger notch with no face id in the current gen. maybe not but id like to think so lol

    • @neoperol
      @neoperol 2 года назад +2

      That would be a good reason, I've been using windows hello since 2017 and after having that option and using my MacBook pro and typing a password to log in is one of those silly things I hate to do, we are in 2022 not having face id on desktop and laptops is just stupid.

    • @aninditabasak7694
      @aninditabasak7694 2 года назад

      @@neoperol Why not use Touch ID, it’s incredible. And Face ID is far superior to Windows Hello.

  • @BARCH-wp5vl
    @BARCH-wp5vl 2 года назад +14

    8:21 is the most awaited benchmarking . 7:52 shows real power of Intel.

    • @nadus7775
      @nadus7775 2 года назад +17

      Hungry jet-engine power. Intel consuming at least 200 watt power in order to beat AMD and Apple. That’s not Laptop anymore, that’s basically a PC. Mobility with intel high-end laptop is not practical

    • @mehuljain5916
      @mehuljain5916 2 года назад +10

      Ohh found a apple fanboi, heyyy

    • @innocentiuslacrim2290
      @innocentiuslacrim2290 2 года назад +4

      @@nadus7775 I have done mobile work for over 20 years. Much of that time analyzing always increasing datasets in more and more detail. And lately in providing online access to that analysis on demand. Never have I been on situation where laptop size or power requirements would have made "mobile work impractical".

    • @henryviiifake8244
      @henryviiifake8244 2 года назад

      Just don't show Intel the power cumsumption used to get that performance. 🙄
      Given that this is a review of a _laptop,_ you have to ask - how much is the best performance worth when it costs you so much in battery life?

    • @mehuljain5916
      @mehuljain5916 2 года назад +1

      @@henryviiifake8244 you can get the Power consumption that's 70-80 watt sustained compared to 60 watt on m1 that's not a huge gap and if you don't like it, you can cap it till 60 and it still beats m1 max, i agree it's not as good in battery buz it's efficient which uses far less power when light work load compared to intel. So it really depends upon if you want best performance or best battery thus either Intel or Apple

  • @harrison5280
    @harrison5280 2 года назад +1

    just clicked on this video to tell you I like your profile picture, very creative.

  • @GrilledChickenRamyun
    @GrilledChickenRamyun 2 года назад +1

    Hy as a creative multimedia student can u consider doing 3D rendering test? Might be useful

  • @kostasvapo69
    @kostasvapo69 2 года назад +2

    Jarrod thats why i love your channel, you always trying to help us decide whats best for our use!

  • @TheInfluenceStudios
    @TheInfluenceStudios 2 года назад +2

    Do you ever plan on testing on the M1 MAX?
    I bought one fully spec out for videography and content creating and I love it and would love to see it place up against some of these windows laptop?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  2 года назад +2

      Unfortunately probably not, unless I can borrow one from someone else. It's just not worth me spending $4000 AUD and a week+ of my time to make a video that will make like $300. I was only able to do this one because I borrowed the laptop from Hardware Unboxed.

    • @TheInfluenceStudios
      @TheInfluenceStudios 2 года назад

      @@JarrodsTech makes sense

  • @tomatochemist
    @tomatochemist 2 года назад +1

    This review worked great for me and helped me choose, thanks! I decided to keep my old, smaller macbook laptop for traveling since it’s fine for the web/reading/excel etc. But what’s the best way to store a laptop I won’t use every day?

  • @esaratullu1696
    @esaratullu1696 2 года назад

    Thank you! Very helpful.

  • @jonas8266
    @jonas8266 2 года назад +1

    Never thought I would hear Jarrod say “MacBook”

  • @meirzaay
    @meirzaay 2 года назад +1

    Hey Jarrod! May I know when Ryzen 6000 laptop benchmark will come?

  • @RH-jj7ck
    @RH-jj7ck 2 года назад +2

    I believe that big parts of this content creator efficiency comes from the fact that they have embedded to the chip itself some spesific encoders for efficiency. I do wish that somehow RISC type of chips would come from intel and amd since it really seems that it is more efficient on power usage and we would finally start to see most of the games supported also

  • @tarcoolkingsoft1014
    @tarcoolkingsoft1014 2 года назад +1

    It was about time ☺️

  • @GoldenRvr
    @GoldenRvr 2 года назад

    WOW Well done review.

  • @aaronsitu8937
    @aaronsitu8937 2 года назад +2

    Hello! I love this video because I just got the new Macbook, and I am glad it was worth it. I have a question regarding the temperature. My Macbook pro 16 inch m1 pro chip runs at around 50-55c when doing school work such as having multiple safari tabs, listening to music, and excel. Is that normal?

    • @technetium_tech
      @technetium_tech 2 года назад

      Yes it is normal, because the fans usually stay off at that temperature.

  • @ShaiyanHossain
    @ShaiyanHossain 2 года назад

    what app are you using to monitor temps and fans?
    edit: i''ll give tg pro a look
    nice video as always

  • @madcrowmaxwell
    @madcrowmaxwell 2 года назад +13

    Honestly, the outrageous markups for upgraded RAM and storage are the biggest negative for this. The slow panel is also problematic. With all the panels out there with similar wide gamuts but much better response times. Why Apple couldn't have picked one is beyond me.

    • @MacA60230
      @MacA60230 2 года назад +3

      Because even if the colour gamut on paper is the same, Miniled gives you close to OLED-tier blacks AND 1600 nits of HDR brightness, things you can't find on any current IPS. Best of both worlds really... outside of games. Which sums up these macbooks very well thinking about it. Best in class or close to in most things... but not for gaming.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 года назад +1

      It is not a gaming device so response times are not essential but if they were you would buy a faster response monitor for that need.

    • @madcrowmaxwell
      @madcrowmaxwell 2 года назад +3

      @@andyH_England You need fast enough response times to avoid ghosting and smearing when scrolling text windows and web pages. Which the current MacBook Pro/Max screens apparently don't.

    • @goldmastersimulations
      @goldmastersimulations 2 года назад

      @@madcrowmaxwell Agreed. Look at the "Exploration" edition of Lenovo Legion 7 that's available in China. It has a 165Hz QHD miniLED 100% Adobe RGB and DCI-P3. It also has much faster response time. Lenovo is even planning to release the miniLED Legion 7 internationally later this year. Therefore, Apple is lying about Liquid Retina XDR Display being the best notebook display on the market.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 года назад

      @@madcrowmaxwell It is def not perfect yet, and it may simply be software bugs/optimisation. Certainly when the iPhone 13 Pro got 120Hz it was a work in progress for four months and now on the latest beta it is as fluid in the apps that have updated. Like many new features on whatever platform, it is not an instant on button to get it 100%. I know Apple, Dell, Samsung et al will get there in the end and even MS may get there with the Duo eventually (also the new Surface Pro still does not have dynamic refresh despite being promised). You are hard on tech, give it some time. I certainly will not downgrade to another laptop over what may be a temporary response time differential!

  • @wealthofmind145
    @wealthofmind145 2 года назад

    3 finger drag should do the trick for the drag and drop !!! Plus it’s less pressure on the computer overall :,)

  •  2 года назад

    nice review, thanks

  • @indusingh4897
    @indusingh4897 2 года назад

    That is one fair and detailed review of the macbook pro 👍. Keep up the good work Jarrod.

  • @cypher9000
    @cypher9000 2 года назад +1

    Watching this on my own 32 core, 32GB, M1 Max just to see what others think of it.

  • @BlixBCR
    @BlixBCR 2 года назад +1

    Wonderful review. I do wonder however, if the notch is that size simply to accommodate a larger webcam module. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe there are any other laptop models that have a *good* 1080p camera in like a very small bezel. The macbook imo has the best compromise of decent webcam quality vs bezel size. The XPS series for example has a really bad webcam in the top bezel. The 2022 model may change that, but it's just something I've noticed a lot of people are either overlooking or just not mentioning.

    • @MLWJ1993
      @MLWJ1993 2 года назад

      Some laptops do have a 1080p camera, but they hide it in the bottom bezel (a bit awkward to use tbh) 😆

  • @leons9935
    @leons9935 2 года назад +5

    I'd give another 1/2 point on the ease of reparability because apple left a pinchable double tape below the battery to help replacing them. I had to yoink out a ballooning battery in the 2017 MBP and that thing took a lot of effort to remove.

  • @rubenvardumyan9661
    @rubenvardumyan9661 2 года назад

    Very nice to see a macbook rewiew from the best laptop rewiewer.

  • @danielkirk5660
    @danielkirk5660 2 года назад +1

    You need to knock the 7 points off that you gave to the Legion 5 for how hard it is to open

  • @brum2302
    @brum2302 2 года назад

    Good review. Could you do a short review on the similar benchmarks when running Parallels (Windows). Will give a good assessment from a Windows user perspective.

  • @dandiaz19934
    @dandiaz19934 2 года назад

    "Gaming - The Witcher 3: 0 minutes" lmfao

  • @craigdaurizio686
    @craigdaurizio686 2 года назад

    Great review! Performance is great, price is outrageous. I can buy 2 x the laptop I just bought, Rog Strix w/ 5900hx + 3050ti.

  • @bluupbrr286
    @bluupbrr286 2 года назад

    Hey Jarrod, when will you be reviewing this year’s g14?

  • @sujanshrestha1226
    @sujanshrestha1226 2 года назад +1

    I can find there is different build laptop for same model in different countries? Is there any difference in such laptop?

  • @Vitalii-o6d
    @Vitalii-o6d 2 года назад

    Hey, Jared, kinda off top, but what about iPad? Pretty fine tablets tho. Were you considering reviewing them someday?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  2 года назад

      No. I have no plans on reviewing mobile devices inc. tablets.

  • @TabalugaDragon
    @TabalugaDragon 2 года назад +3

    Why does Legion 5 Pro have noticeably lower upgradability score than base Legion 5? 🤔 aren't they about the same on the inside?

    • @priyanshuanubis
      @priyanshuanubis 2 года назад

      I think it was a blocked wifi card due to thicker heat sink

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon 2 года назад

      @@priyanshuanubis yet he removed 1.5 points, not 0.5 or 1. Also, almost nobody upgrades wifi. People usually upgrade storage or RAM. Also if I'm not mistaken, the laptop is just as easy to repaste(unlike Legion7) as Legion 5, and that's what people do way more often than upgrades, especially wifi upgrades.

    • @myday6074
      @myday6074 2 года назад

      I think it's just a little bit harder to open (remove a lid). Have both this laptops though, it's not that harder for me, but there are definately a difference.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  2 года назад +3

      Legion 5 and 5i have different battery size options so you can upgrade from 60-80wh, 5 Pro and 7 do not. I also gave the 5 and 5i half a point for the option of a 2.5" drive with the smaller battery, something the 5 Pro and 7 cannot offer. The goal of the upgrade score is not to judge what options are good, but I think it's worth factoring in whether or not a laptop can be changed to work with different configurations

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon 2 года назад

      @@JarrodsTech ok that makes sense, thank you! It's just I'm considering L5 pro now and was worried when I saw the upgrade score so much lower than base Legion 5.
      However, you gave Nitro 5 a 7, even though it's battery isn't upgradeable 🤔

  • @sushimshah2896
    @sushimshah2896 2 года назад +1

    I pointed this out on Tim's video as well, the screen has ~2500 dimming zones not 10,000!!

  • @sephisykes
    @sephisykes 2 года назад

    Bonus points for the In Flames t shirt🔥🔥🔥

  • @albyx
    @albyx 2 года назад

    I have the 14" version and my only complaint is referenced in this video; the notch does not have faceID, which IMO should have. The notch, while not massive, seems to have the space for it, so it really feels like Apple got cheap on buyers. Additionally, the fact that the mouse just 'passes' under the notch feels like an excuse for not implementing faceID. It seems to me like the notch is literally implemented on the display, which is why it behaves this way, and so Apple has a reason to give for not implementing a better camera system. Overall, love the machine.

  • @JimKanaris
    @JimKanaris 2 года назад +2

    A very fair review of a machine I have in my own possession. Ya, definitely don't buy this beast if you want to game a little on the side. I have an XPS 9500, which is a nice compromise for the content creator who has an itch for gaming. However, I got the 16" M1 Pro (base) because ... well, it does everything else better than the Dell.

  • @garryfounds
    @garryfounds 2 года назад

    It is rather odd that you did not compare the M1 Mac with the Max 20 Core GPU, since that configuration is, basically, the midline choice for the 16" Macbook Pro. With this configuration, the Mac is about $200 to $300 CHEAPER than the MSI GE76 with the i9, and, as seen from other tests, blows away the GE76 with the i9. I'm just curious why you did not have a more "apples to apples" test, at least in terms of cost. Was the M1 Max just not available to you for testing?

  • @werwurwe
    @werwurwe 2 года назад +1

    Great review! Was thinking of getting a "Mac" like windows laptop at a lower price range. Do you have any good recommendations for a lower price range 14-inch laptop that's good and snappy for Microsoft word/powerpoint, multiple tabs workload? Thanks in advanced!

    • @ziko9519
      @ziko9519 2 года назад +1

      Try razer blade 14

  • @joshdannieltiamzon902
    @joshdannieltiamzon902 2 года назад

    Question. Have you tried to install Windows OS on your Macbook Pro?
    So you can test all the benchmarks, apps and games again....

  • @Momo.momo789
    @Momo.momo789 2 года назад

    MacBook Pro 16's speaker feels like HomePod mini, truly amazing

  • @javiej
    @javiej 2 года назад +1

    I don't understand the comparison with a 3080ti laptop. Absolutely nobody buys a Windows laptop with a Nvidia 3080ti for video editing. The 3080ti is a high end product specialised in markets where the M1 is basically useless:
    Nvidia 3080ti markets:
    - AAA gaming
    - 3D rendering
    - VFX (Nuke...)
    - VR
    - CAD/CAM
    - Scientific visualization
    - Architecture
    - Machine learning
    - High Res / HFR content over HDMI 2.1 (4k 120Hz, 8K 60p...)
    - 4K multilayer streaming
    - And yes, the 3080 can also do video editing if neccesary.
    M1 markets:
    - Video editing
    So what's the point of having both products in the same comparison?

  • @hassandimassi5704
    @hassandimassi5704 2 года назад +1

    What is the best laptop gaming for 1,100 dollars

  • @kagacchi3688
    @kagacchi3688 2 года назад

    Dude I literally have $1000 and that’s it what gaming laptop would you suggest ? Really just want something with a decent screen

  • @David_Denali
    @David_Denali 2 года назад

    Good video 👌
    Btw plz plz plz make a video interducing good laptops for engineers. The reason I ask u that is RUclipsrs talk about mux switch and g-sink etc but idk if they rly matter to the performance outside of games. I personally work with 3d apps like Solid Work and MATLAB which benefit from a powerful enough GPU. And been looking for a 16 inch laptop with a good screen and ofc value. I've been asking u for a while and I know u r busy but plz make it ✌️

  • @lordpula1193
    @lordpula1193 2 года назад

    So are these 4k or which macs are?

  • @muttbone01
    @muttbone01 Год назад

    Jarrod just hates the band In Flames. Cloud connected, apparently.

  • @pranjalverma9716
    @pranjalverma9716 2 года назад

    Did you get the lenovo series laptops????

  • @Porsche911-r6u
    @Porsche911-r6u 2 года назад

    When jarrod says it's nice then it is nice !!!

  • @thirdreplicator
    @thirdreplicator 2 года назад

    HI Jarrod, can you start your own company to make high end Linux systems? The system76 laptops are a bit lackluster. Thank you!

  • @confusedforreal1534
    @confusedforreal1534 2 года назад

    I’d love to see you review the maxed out 16’ M1 MaX 64Gig

  • @10essee10titans
    @10essee10titans 2 года назад

    In Flames!! love the shirt

  • @celebrityrog
    @celebrityrog 2 года назад +2

    Apple needs to get real and stop limiting these computers to 256GB or 512GB storage options. It's time to have 1TB and 2TB as standard

    • @Suckmabalzz
      @Suckmabalzz 2 года назад

      you can get the 1TB variant, you just need to pay about 1.2k USD more money for it

    • @raptornomad1221
      @raptornomad1221 2 года назад +1

      This comment proves that you are bashing Apple for the sake of it. The new Macbook pros offer up to 8TB SSD already. Be sure to be less of a fanboy, eh?

  • @nickooi7275
    @nickooi7275 2 года назад

    Hey Jarrod, can you make a video on the Macbook Air M1?

  • @BARCH-wp5vl
    @BARCH-wp5vl 2 года назад +3

    If you want greatest battery life go with M1. If you want great gaming and battery life go with AMD. If you want greatest gaming and poor battery go Intel.

  • @AdityaGupta-om8ez
    @AdityaGupta-om8ez 2 года назад +9

    Hey Jarrod I have a question...
    Can you please tell if using DLSS or FSR reduce vram usage at the same settings as compared to native rendering?
    If it does, how much does it reduce because if it does then it might be sort of a workaround to run the games at settings for which it might usually show vram limitation.
    Didn't find any real tests regarding this so I need your help.

    • @the_golden_s5682
      @the_golden_s5682 2 года назад

      DLSS and FSR Don't work on apple macbook Pro M1
      They might work on Intel models

    • @TheMacco26
      @TheMacco26 2 года назад +10

      @@the_golden_s5682 I suppose his question was outside of the subject of this video ;)

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  2 года назад +4

      To be honest it's not something I've looked at. Measuring VRAM is difficult because I think it's harder to work out how much is actually being used vs how much has been allocated.

    • @MLWJ1993
      @MLWJ1993 2 года назад +1

      You do have less pixels to do actual work on so I suspect VRAM usage goes down a little bit. However do take note that both FSR & DLSS have more overhead than just running a lower resolution.
      To actually measure that in practice though is going to be very though. Most programs (as mentioned) don't report actual VRAM usage & rather show allocation (for which you obviously allocate more than you need to circumvent the unfortunate case of another program demanding VRAM whilst the current program also wants more VRAM resulting in bad performance drops).
      Even if you find a program that does "expose" actual usage it's usually nothing more than an estimation given by the hardware inside (memory controller) & you simply don't really know how accurate that actually is.

  • @augustonicoletti6103
    @augustonicoletti6103 2 года назад +1

    You should make a review of M1 Max and MacBook Air M1

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  2 года назад +2

      I'll probably never get a Max, costs way too much. I only have this one because I borrowed it, so depends if I can borrow a Max. I bought an Air recently, but that's another story.