Jack Kornfield on the Lion's Roar of Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche - Heart Wisdom Ep. 190
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Directly following Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche's death, Jack offers perspectives on the life and dharma of one of spirituality's most impactful and controversial figures.
"Lama Govinda said that of all the young tulkus, of all the young incarnate lamas to leave Tibet, there was none as bright as Trungpa Rinpoche-bright in the sense of his field of his being and his energy. Lama Govinda, even at a point when he wasn't very happy with the way Trungpa Rinpoche was behaving, said that he still had to admit there was no one who walked across the Himalayas and came out who had that light more than Trungpa." - Jack Kornfield
In this episode, Jack dives into:
- A celebration of the life, teachings, and impact of Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche
- The Vimalakīrti Sutra, and how certain Bodhisattvas teach as householders so that their message can be best understood by the world
- How Jack being invited to teach alongside Ram Dass, Sharon Salzberg, and Joseph Goldstein on the faculty of Trungpa's Naropa University in Boulder, CO sparked their teaching careers in the West
- Lama Govinda's view on Trungpa's innate radiant brightness and his "lion's roar"
- The traditions, trainings, and spirit of Shambala through the metaphor of the rising sun
- Meeting our life and practice with an openness and fearlessness
- Buddhist personality types and their unique seeds of awakening
- Trungpa's discipline for practice, and his deep devotion for his teachers and dharma lineage
- Ping-ponging between Ram Dass's and Trungpa Rinpoche's dueling - - Bhakti and Buddhism sessions the opening summer at Naropa
"Trungpa Rinpoche gave himself as fully to the West as any Buddhist teacher that I know that has come. And in a more remarkable way, he absorbed our culture, our language, our customs, who we are, into himself and said, 'Alright, let's play! Let's take the seed of the Dharma and really make it sparkle and alive in the West.'" - Jack Kornfield
This Dharma Talk on 4/01/1987 at Spirit Rock Meditation Center was originally published on DharmaSeed.org
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CTR‘s wisdom and energy is impressively splendid💚🙏
Thank You, He seems like a friend I never met. I lived in the Boulder area when Naropa was founded. Allen Ginsberg taught and lectures there ,lucky to have caught him. Time to dig deeper, again thanks
I had a psychiatrist who has worked in Boulder for 30 years tell me "Boulder is filled with Buddhist horror stories." That is the real legacy of Chogyam and his cult zealots.
All the times I've heard Ram Dass talk about Chogyam and even a funny story with Lama Govinda it is nice to hear all of these names and feel the synchronicities and connections between everyone on Jack kornfields channel. Thank you with much appreciation 💛
Really enjoyed this. Thanks for posting!!
I listened to the first 5 minutes and it's all positive. Can't be bothered listening to the whole thing. Does this talk at all about him abusing people or is it just propaganda? Lol
Many here will love this quote 'Let your ambition be the achievement on earth of a heavenly civilisation ' [Bahai writings]
This is a wonderful teaching/recollection of a great Rinpoche, thank you for the expression of dharma 💚
I really don't understand why so many people that are supposedly living a healthy lifestyle ( coming from the spiritual world)end up dying before the age of 50 !! My aunt from Venezuela South America move to the mountains to get away from all the power lines grew her own food drank water from a spring!!.. she was the only one in my family I had to talk to about this kind of stuff and she died about a year (still to this day I don't think I ever meet somebody as nice and good people as her (I've been meditating for 15 plus years, she's been meditating before I was born) I'm 37!!.. why do people like her get taken from us ?
Because life .. is a cesspool of petty
Broken wings..
They don't need to spend too much time here
I have heard that is there karma so to speak to die early. Perhaps because of their noble life lived, their soul accomplishes what it came to Earth to do.
Impermanence.
Because people like your aunt gain the natural ability to choose to move on to the next world
I find it difficult to glorify Trungpa Rinpoche after learning about his atrocious acts of abuse. It feels off that this channel is spotlighting him without acknowledging the horrible things he did to children, women, men and animals. It just doesn't feel right to me.
Right? How is it not addressed? This shit is so deeply inappropriate. If we're teaching compassion and acceptance, we can't perpetuate wrong action, which he seemed to steep himself in. Gross and really irresponsible.
He's like the Bill Cosby of Buddhism. Contributed masses of positivity to the world, intentionally and consciously, and was also, apparently, an absolute monster. It really saddens me that the controversy is not addressed, I feel almost gaslit. What's the truth? Did the women make it up out of spite?
@Ashraya Prem There have been survivor testimonies of child sexual predation. There is another testimony where he tortured and killed a cat in front of several followers. His successor sexually assaulted people to intentionally give them AIDS, under Trungpa's guidance. He violently abused his many wives. There's just too many to list. His drug and alcohol addiction isn't even an issue for me, its the direct harm to other beings. The Buddha said to hold teachers to a high moral standard. I'm not saying he didn't contribute ANY wisdom, sure he did. My main point here is that he shouldn't be put on a pedestal today without acknowledging these horrid things about him. Let's talk about his teachings but in the context of these aspects. The silence is the problem for me.
Trungpa never hid anything. He was a wolf in wolf's clothing. It's all out there.
@@Not.Two.nonduality001 well, for whatever reason, he had about 50 of his dedicated Shambalah devotees accuse him of rape and abuse, and a few committing suicide. Pretty wild.
I know an excellent buddhist practicioner who excels at teaching others….but this same person also gaslit me for several years, and showed all the behaviors of narcissism. I learned a tremendous amount of dharma from the person, both through living examples and talking. Ultimately the narcissism became so apparent the relationship dissolved, the I walked away a way better person and practicioner. What they taught was dharma and their styles of lecturing sliced to essence of what needed to be learned, and it remains dharma. Your point is a good one however, part of this recording sounds like personal praise of the person, not sharing of the dharma. If we’re to talk about the person, the narcissism should be included with the praise of teaching skills. Doing so would prepare leaners that the role of lama/guru can open up the dynamics that would attract in a narcissist as it offers up the ability to exert control over others who come to learn.
Does anybody know which liturgy Jack reads from, written by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche relating to calling the guru from afar?
Nice
26:44 Bodisatva point of view
Yea I’m not a fan of Trungpa… to much controversy.
Thich Nhat Hanh
Is a clear Light🔆
Whats with the preamble and the "fam" guy? Can we just get to the talk "y'all?"
All religious activities in tibetan buddhism have nothing to do with the teachings of buddha.
An alcohol-sodden and cocaine-addled mess. I always cringe at the phrase 'crazy wisdom'.
I believe that Chogyam Trungpa was the real Dalai Lama. But the public does not recognize the real lamas and teachers when they reincarnate in very random bodies.
How did you?