That's because in most sneak attacks, the surprise Is over when you jump out so the yelling is just to encourage them and possibly put as much shock factor in it as possible. But in this case due to visibility and noise obscured by the machinery its actually possible not to know the sneak attack is happening at different areas so it helps to be silent.
That sound of the little mouse at the beginning is actually a recording of a baby red squirrel. It was recorded by RUclipsr Dani Connor, a wildlife photographer. The sound engineer heard it and thought it was perfect.
@@pollacksifyThey don't use any computers like that -- "thinking machines" -- in the Dune universe, they were outlawed like 10,000 years ago I think... that's why they have the "human computers."
@@pollacksifyThere is AI in the dune universe. They had a war with thinking machines. Mentats, guild navigators, and other speciality trained/bred humans fill the roles of advanced computers.
What were they trying to do here that a strip of land mines wouldn't accomplish? The Harks aren't even walking in B Line in front of the harvester to sweep
they do. Look at the harkonnen in left at 1:49. He gets shot in the head and you can see the air pressure escaping from his helmet edit: iirc, they use short range dart guns. You can also see the fremen use them in the final battle
@@elrondmcbong6392 Far enough in the future to traverse the known universe, create thinking machines and then exterminate them, develop personal shields..............and still only use a firearm that looks like it's single-shot and bulkier than an M1 Garand. Give 1 Harkonen an MP40 and this attack fails.
In Dune a nuclear explosion happens if a laser beam hits a shield so first they have to take out the shielded helicopter then they can just laser the mining vehicle.
It's supposed to unconsciously mimic a tick, and in doing so, represents the Harkonnen's view of Arrakis and the spice- commodities that can be freely parasitised for their own benefit
I guess the Harkonnens have been there a long time , and perhaps their version is the more efficient; more hammering teeth in the front compared to the simpler ones that they left behind for the Atreidis etc.
The ornithopter will hunt them down from the air and report on their tactics if it lives, so it has to go down first. Lasguns striking shields create a massive detonation that would wipe everyone out, Fremen included. That leaves forcing the thopter to expose itself to attack while trying to support the ground troops. Really cool to see them following the logic of the books to plan out the scene!
it's important to specify that lasguns cannot be used against shields because it causes almost nuclear type explosions. The thopter has shields because it is in the air, therefore not bothering the worms. The harvester doesn't have shields because it would send all worms into a frenzy. That's why they have to take out the thopter with slow shield -piercing rockets before destroying the harvester
in the first scene you'll notice the Harkonnen say "no shields" because theyre being fired at with lasguns in worm territory...again, huge boom boom if their shields get hit with lasguns. The use of shields on Arrakis is basically limited to hand tobhand combat within the shield wall or outside worm territory. Flies away in thopter farts
Because, if lasgun fire hits shields, you get a nuclear level explosion. So, you can't las the ornithopter. The harvester isn't shielded, shields drive the worms to a killing rage.
judging from the earlier scene, all they needed to do was damage one clipping point on the harvester and its good as done for, no need to go through all that other work, at most just summon a worm after breaking a carrying clip.
The ornithopter pilot just shoots among fremen and the Harkonnen. That means neither uses shields, so why didn't the foot soldiers just use weapons instead of their stupid katanas? And if neither uses shields why not just start with the laser rifle from the get go and simply do a sweep across that harvester to maul everyone an dbe done in 5 s?
The entire purpose of the ground battle was to destroy the shielded ornithopter so they could safely use the lazguns. Lazguns are rare and valuable weapons that the fremen have very limited access. It’s would be a bigger loss to the fremen to lose the lazguns then it is for the Harkonin to lose the harvester, so it’s only a winning battle for the fremen if they can guarantee the Lazguns will survive. If you start with the Lazguns the ornithopter just kills the gunners and destroys the lazguns immediately. Because it’s shielded firing at the ornithopter with the lazguns will destroy everything, including the lazguns, which would be a net loss for the fremen.
I find it odd that 1) they're completely indifferent to their friends dying to the autogun, and 2) how they decided to attack the harvester without taking out the air-cover first - which lead to atleast 10 of them dying before they even go a shot off on the harvester.
>Fedaykin are the Muj of this world, fanatic beyond belief and self preservation >Thropter could only be engaged when it lowered its shields to fire >10 dying was likely part of the plan. The Fremen are fanatics and the Fedaykin are that x1000, I truly believe they say dying in this operation as a truly great honor. That's how terrorists think.
They couldn't take out the air cover unless it was firing, because it needed to drop the shields to fire. The only way to get it to fire was to give it something to shoot. Also, you worry about your friends dying later, when it won't get you killed too.
The galaxy see fremen as a small number of scattered tribes. But in reality there are millions, they pay the spacing guild spice to prevent orbital scan/pics of their numbers.
The first logical answer I can think of is that they avoid using shields to not attract the Worm, but since the harvester is already attracting it on its own...better use shields to protect the harvesters from raiders
If they were just going to destroy the harvesters with lasguns from a mile away, why didn't they just do that and run instead of all that hand-to-hand fighting. Fun scene, but it doesn't make sense.
Honestly, their tactic is kind of stupid. Why does the ambushing team shoot the rocket? Instead of just the guys who later use the lasers on the big ship, why dont they have the rocket launcher to destroy the helicopter at the start when it mowed down almost the whole ambushing squad
Probably safety concern. If they shoot the laser right as the shield comes up there's a massive nuclear explosion. My question is why wasn't the rocket ready to fire from the start of the attack. What if one of the troops gets lucky and takes out the rocket team?
For the ship its when a fast enough projectile hits it that it stops the shot but they need to lower the shields to shoot fire out of it, its why you see the rocket going through slowly when it goes back up. On the ground they dont use shields since they attract Sand worms.
They seem to prefer to use the weight of numbers. And in the grand scheme of things, that can work given enough time. Hell, it's what the Soviets did in WWII.
Harkonnen soldiers are basically slaves and conscripts, its why House Harkonnen was scared to go it alone against the Atreides, in the first movie we see a small line of Atreides troops kill like 20 Harkonnen soldiers without a single loss House Atreides troops were highly trained by a Ginaz swordmaster (basically a better Sardaukar) and a highly skilled Warmaster, its why it took the Sardaukar to kill them
Don't really buy the "intentional" argument at all. One guard turns his back on an active threat just to walk very very slowly over to the chick with the rocket launcher who could and does blow him away. Looks very silly and makes no sense tactically. I feel like the average civilian could perform better in this scenario than these guards do. I understand that they are outclassed but this is too much because even if it actually were intentional, that just means that there cannot be any real danger to the fremen because of how hilariously incompetent the harkonnen soldiers are written to be. They weren't THIS bad in the books either. Imo just poor choreography.
Battle doesn’t make sense at all lol..why waste all those men in close quarter combat when they just smoke the harvester with stand off weapon systems?
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I don't understand why to be honest. But why i don't understand even more, is why you feel the need to comment on a clip of a movie you didn't bother to watch in the first place?
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You know what I absolutely love about this scene? The fremen not yelling when springing their ambush. Element of surprise and all that…
Ikr? I swear most movies do that lol. Ik in a hand to hand battle, a battle cry is a legit thing but yelling in a sneak attack is dumb.
A tactic invented by Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce tribe.
I will fight no more forever @@ElectroPercs
No music either
That's because in most sneak attacks, the surprise Is over when you jump out so the yelling is just to encourage them and possibly put as much shock factor in it as possible. But in this case due to visibility and noise obscured by the machinery its actually possible not to know the sneak attack is happening at different areas so it helps to be silent.
"Our spice harvesters are under attack"
"Unit lost"
C&C nostalgia hit is not what I was expecting watching this video
every downed fremen
"a warrior has fallen"
what is this refrencing ?
@@adithyashekhar8131 command & conquer franchise
@@adithyashekhar8131 Command and Conquer, its a classic of the 90s.
the sound design is on another level big props to the audio engineers on this film
That sound of the little mouse at the beginning is actually a recording of a baby red squirrel. It was recorded by RUclipsr Dani Connor, a wildlife photographer. The sound engineer heard it and thought it was perfect.
Shushing the hopping mouse away at the beginning :D
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Muad’ib shushing Muad’ib
Did he used The Whisper
@@contrnsmagnificndjoobngtaintI doubt he did. Whisper only works on humanoid creatures.
Stilgar’s faith is developing in this scene and its beautiful. Well done acting and cinematography.
Every inch of art direction is a joy
Chani’s laugh was great.
this is what happens when you give women the right to vote, and let them leave the kitchen,
The ornithopter gunner POV reminds me of a real world helicopter footage.
yea then i realized with how advanced their tech is; absolutely no need for this, assuming they have computers with auto targeting ai etc.
@@pollacksifyThey don't use any computers like that -- "thinking machines" -- in the Dune universe, they were outlawed like 10,000 years ago I think... that's why they have the "human computers."
@@pollacksifyThere is AI in the dune universe. They had a war with thinking machines. Mentats, guild navigators, and other speciality trained/bred humans fill the roles of advanced computers.
@@pollacksify thinking machines are illegal
@@nealeellis4455”Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.”
I love they made Chani a Fedayakin. She suits so well and it explains better her connection with Paul.
One of the best movies ever
@ not a big fan I presume? Also a very classy RUclips comment I must say. Typically I would just get attacked.
The best of the year imo
@@HermitsClog By far.
I’m glad we got Las-weapons in this movie.
Proper las weapons as well. It's awesome how they fry the very air itself as they tear into armour
In the books Chani doesn't hate Paul.
Scorpion says "GET OVER HERE!"
Spice harvester? You mean the Dutch?
Beat thing about this scene. It’s the most important in the entire movie / book (Dennis blurred the lines a lil)
Space Arabs vs space Russians
Man, you ain't wrong.
Russians don't steal other people's resources like Americans do.
Soviet-Afgan war 2 lulz
😂 greetings from Norilsk, yeah, looks like
Tale as old as time
One of the best movies of our time
This Director should direct a star wars movie
Well, if anybody can perform the miracle of saving Star Wars it's Villeneuve.
screw that, star wars doesn’t deserve this
He actually refused.
Did he use the voice as a whisper on Pikachu 00:22 😅
What were they trying to do here that a strip of land mines wouldn't accomplish?
The Harks aren't even walking in B Line in front of the harvester to sweep
I'm glad Paul and Chani working together
The fremen helments remind me of the troopers helments from the dune rts for sega
the harks know the fremen don't/won
t use shields, so why didn't they just use guns?
Bcs maybe this time they use one
they do. Look at the harkonnen in left at 1:49. He gets shot in the head and you can see the air pressure escaping from his helmet
edit: iirc, they use short range dart guns. You can also see the fremen use them in the final battle
@@elrondmcbong6392 Far enough in the future to traverse the known universe, create thinking machines and then exterminate them, develop personal shields..............and still only use a firearm that looks like it's single-shot and bulkier than an M1 Garand.
Give 1 Harkonen an MP40 and this attack fails.
I don't think projectile weapons have been used for centuries lol, the basic rifle of the Harks was a Lasgun
@@truthseeker308 clearly you arent aware
Enlighten me why didn't they use the lasers to destroy the ornithopter in the first place. Seems pretty OP weapon to me.
In Dune a nuclear explosion happens if a laser beam hits a shield so first they have to take out the shielded helicopter then they can just laser the mining vehicle.
Trust me that shield can tank a tank shell but can become a nuclear atom bomb at the same time.
@@pratikshinde4229remember they have projectiles that are designed to go slow to Pierce shields.
its been answered but yeah, they'd nuke themselves in the process
I don't understand this harvester vs the previous ones.
What's with the bulbous shape?
It's supposed to unconsciously mimic a tick, and in doing so, represents the Harkonnen's view of Arrakis and the spice- commodities that can be freely parasitised for their own benefit
But the harvesters in the earlier scenes were left behind by the Harkonnens, no?
@@kkobayashi1Yeah, but this is a movie, and it just has to look cool.
I guess the Harkonnens have been there a long time , and perhaps their version is the more efficient; more hammering teeth in the front compared to the simpler ones that they left behind for the Atreidis etc.
@@kkobayashi1 they left behind worse, malfunctioning equipment for the atredies
Why didnt they just lasgun from the start?
Because the ornithopter would immediately kill them
The ornithopter will hunt them down from the air and report on their tactics if it lives, so it has to go down first. Lasguns striking shields create a massive detonation that would wipe everyone out, Fremen included. That leaves forcing the thopter to expose itself to attack while trying to support the ground troops. Really cool to see them following the logic of the books to plan out the scene!
it's important to specify that lasguns cannot be used against shields because it causes almost nuclear type explosions. The thopter has shields because it is in the air, therefore not bothering the worms. The harvester doesn't have shields because it would send all worms into a frenzy. That's why they have to take out the thopter with slow shield -piercing rockets before destroying the harvester
in the first scene you'll notice the Harkonnen say "no shields" because theyre being fired at with lasguns in worm territory...again, huge boom boom if their shields get hit with lasguns. The use of shields on Arrakis is basically limited to hand tobhand combat within the shield wall or outside worm territory. Flies away in thopter farts
Because, if lasgun fire hits shields, you get a nuclear level explosion. So, you can't las the ornithopter. The harvester isn't shielded, shields drive the worms to a killing rage.
Why did they bother with the close assault on the harvester if they were just going to blow it up anyway?
only way to take down the flyer as it had a shield and if a laser hits a shield it go nuclear boom
judging from the earlier scene, all they needed to do was damage one clipping point on the harvester and its good as done for, no need to go through all that other work, at most just summon a worm after breaking a carrying clip.
They also want to kill everyone.
The ornithopter pilot just shoots among fremen and the Harkonnen. That means neither uses shields, so why didn't the foot soldiers just use weapons instead of their stupid katanas? And if neither uses shields why not just start with the laser rifle from the get go and simply do a sweep across that harvester to maul everyone an dbe done in 5 s?
The entire purpose of the ground battle was to destroy the shielded ornithopter so they could safely use the lazguns.
Lazguns are rare and valuable weapons that the fremen have very limited access. It’s would be a bigger loss to the fremen to lose the lazguns then it is for the Harkonin to lose the harvester, so it’s only a winning battle for the fremen if they can guarantee the Lazguns will survive.
If you start with the Lazguns the ornithopter just kills the gunners and destroys the lazguns immediately. Because it’s shielded firing at the ornithopter with the lazguns will destroy everything, including the lazguns, which would be a net loss for the fremen.
Is that Chuck Mangione ?
With knives too
I find it odd that 1) they're completely indifferent to their friends dying to the autogun, and 2) how they decided to attack the harvester without taking out the air-cover first - which lead to atleast 10 of them dying before they even go a shot off on the harvester.
>Fedaykin are the Muj of this world, fanatic beyond belief and self preservation
>Thropter could only be engaged when it lowered its shields to fire
>10 dying was likely part of the plan. The Fremen are fanatics and the Fedaykin are that x1000, I truly believe they say dying in this operation as a truly great honor. That's how terrorists think.
They couldn't take out the air cover unless it was firing, because it needed to drop the shields to fire. The only way to get it to fire was to give it something to shoot.
Also, you worry about your friends dying later, when it won't get you killed too.
it's a war. you don't really have time to mourn because like that you can get killed too.
@@EGRJ While it's mowing down theres sand buddies they could have shot it, or have one of the laser dudes pop out with a rocket
if the las guns shot at the shields of the air vehicles a nuclear like explosion will happen that will trigger worms to their location
Like you needed a loader? That aint a two man weapon.
Was it worth it? I saw a lot of them get killed.
Wow the security people where useless
I'm not saying its bad tatica, but they sent like 50 in the first waves and got back like two freeman . So good job
They lost a few Fremen. They destroyed one of only a few hundred spice harvesters that are effectively irreplaceable. Good trade.
The galaxy see fremen as a small number of scattered tribes. But in reality there are millions, they pay the spacing guild spice to prevent orbital scan/pics of their numbers.
@@dannygarland6366 didn't think it that way but your right. I am a silly goof
Why isn't everyone just using guns on Arrakis since you can't use shields there? Seems like the chopper gunner is the only one that got the memo.
Because the author really wanted a sci-fi series with sword fight
Can someone explain why they wouldn't be using guns since you can't have shields in the desert
The first logical answer I can think of is that they avoid using shields to not attract the Worm, but since the harvester is already attracting it on its own...better use shields to protect the harvesters from raiders
If they were just going to destroy the harvesters with lasguns from a mile away, why didn't they just do that and run instead of all that hand-to-hand fighting. Fun scene, but it doesn't make sense.
Why do they fight with swords?
Why didn’t they have maula pistols with them to hit the guys at range while closing in?
maybe because not eveyone in a sniper
Honestly, their tactic is kind of stupid.
Why does the ambushing team shoot the rocket?
Instead of just the guys who later use the lasers on the big ship, why dont they have the rocket launcher to destroy the helicopter at the start when it mowed down almost the whole ambushing squad
Probably safety concern. If they shoot the laser right as the shield comes up there's a massive nuclear explosion. My question is why wasn't the rocket ready to fire from the start of the attack. What if one of the troops gets lucky and takes out the rocket team?
These Shields ... 🤔 when do they protect ? And when can swords or bullets come through???
the slow blade penetrates the shield my man
In the books they were using daggers because even tip of the sword would go too fast to penetrate the shield.
For the ship its when a fast enough projectile hits it that it stops the shot but they need to lower the shields to shoot fire out of it, its why you see the rocket going through slowly when it goes back up. On the ground they dont use shields since they attract Sand worms.
The guards so incompetent it kinda ruins the scene
That's intentional I think, the Harks had really poor quality troops hence why they needed to ask the Emperor for the Sardukar.
They seem to prefer to use the weight of numbers. And in the grand scheme of things, that can work given enough time. Hell, it's what the Soviets did in WWII.
Harkonnen soldiers are basically slaves and conscripts, its why House Harkonnen was scared to go it alone against the Atreides, in the first movie we see a small line of Atreides troops kill like 20 Harkonnen soldiers without a single loss
House Atreides troops were highly trained by a Ginaz swordmaster (basically a better Sardaukar) and a highly skilled Warmaster, its why it took the Sardaukar to kill them
Don't really buy the "intentional" argument at all. One guard turns his back on an active threat just to walk very very slowly over to the chick with the rocket launcher who could and does blow him away. Looks very silly and makes no sense tactically. I feel like the average civilian could perform better in this scenario than these guards do. I understand that they are outclassed but this is too much because even if it actually were intentional, that just means that there cannot be any real danger to the fremen because of how hilariously incompetent the harkonnen soldiers are written to be. They weren't THIS bad in the books either. Imo just poor choreography.
so if the enemy soldiers were so ineffective why would they not have better tactics?
It's like in Ukraine - the Harkonnen can buy unlimited cannon fodder.
The raid scene in the 1984 version was better.
I wished they picked another actress than her.
Battle doesn’t make sense at all lol..why waste all those men in close quarter combat when they just smoke the harvester with stand off weapon systems?
Wait so this isnt afghanistan 1979?
Wouldn't they see these breathing tubes? In the desert anything sticks out of the smooth surface should be quite obvious.
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man, that was the dumbest action sequence i have ever seen. plot armor is so thick that it could even have saved Eddard Stark's neck
Сколько експертов по войнам 😂
Только ты один все знаешь как все на самом деле.
@usptact да🤔
So bring your experts and have them lose?
@JA-ru3il мої експерти воюють а не сидять на дивані в Америці і пишуть фігню
One of the crappiest movie ever made bar none. Pathetic and idiotic.
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Agreed. It's 1/3 Dune, 1/3 invented disjointed filler scenes, 1/3 messaging babble. 40k views in 24 hrs with 22 comments. Bot views must be enabled.
@Raubvogel99 not a troll....just stating a fact.......a. complete slow, boring, ridiculous pathetic movie in every aspect
The battle choreography is terrible. I knew as soon as I saw woke casting the production would be junk.
What woke casting?
Hes mad there a dark skinned people on a desert planet 😂
@thegercast4794 star wars, snow white, wicked, she hulk, the marvels, etc. Woke messaging has killed iconic franchises, if you're too ignorant to admit it then you're the minority they're targeting. I don't care if I convinced you of anything. #FactsOverFeelings
@@killbill5486 this is a clip from Dune…
@jonnil1997 no kidding. They ruined this one too 🙄
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The first dune sucked so much I didn’t bother seeing the second
I don't understand why to be honest. But why i don't understand even more, is why you feel the need to comment on a clip of a movie you didn't bother to watch in the first place?
@@kayd6572 It's either a bot or someone with a brain so small he isn't considered human
You should watch the second one. The first one sucked Ažż but the second one is a thousand times better and more interesting.
You’re just a child that doesn’t know a good movie. Both were great. Movies don’t have to follow books word for word.
You clearly have suffered from blunt force trauma to yer noggin' - should get that looked at ... or just worship your little Trump statue .