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Larissa, there are two Alamo movies and you chose the boring one. Because John Wayne was the lead actor, director and executive producer (he went into debt to finance the movie), he chose to have the final battle in the daylight (instead of night). The 1960 version left out the Mexican army being defeated in San Jacinto (now part of Houston).
@@The_Dudester Nope there is between 16 and 20 Alamo movies and in my humble opinion the 1960 John Wayne film is the most entertaining by far
THE USA VERSION SUCH AS HISTORIANS FORM THERE...... SUCH AS BILL GRONEMAN AN JAMES CRIPS SAYS THTA ITS TO MUCH MAKE UP.
santa Anna in real life was handsome, this is just a movie. Anna was rigtht he was defending mexican territory.
I believe the goal of this movie was to portray the Battle of the Alamo correctly. There have been 16 movies about the Alamo since 1911. All except this one misrepresented the historical event. Unfortunately most people get their history from the movies.
This movie is actually pretty accurate, bombed at the box office but the movie does a good job at the basics and even more.
Surprisingly accurate. My favorite of all the depictions of the battle of the Alamo for that reason. Good casting, too.
I liked this one too screw the critics sometimes
The surrender of Crockett is inaccurate. I don't have the energy to type a long rebuttal, but I am assuming you believe he did surrender due to the post battle writings of Mexican Lt. Col. De la Pena? I ask you to read a couple of eyewitness accounts from Mexican army Sgt. Felix Nunez and Mexican Capt. Rafael Soldana, both of whom witnessed Crockett's death in battle.
Then ask yourself who had motive to make this claim? De La Pena, an aristocrat and officer whose machismo was so threatened by his pyrrhic victory against frontiersmen that, to salvage his place in history, chose the most popular man at the Alamo, famous throughout North America, and said he surrendered and was executed. OR, the documented recollections of two normal Mexican soldiers who participated in the battle and saw with their own eyes Crockett fall in combat?
Just because a "diary" was found, what is in it should not necessarily be taken as the gospel. A historian must search for motive as well. I find the two soldiers accounts, both who had nothing to gain or lose in telling their tale, as closer to the truth then De La Pena.
This revisionist history movement must cease.
@@ronlackey2689 Just curious, but what state/country is the institution in that you earned your degree in history from?
@@AceMoonshot Is there a point you are trying to make? I don't give personal info to complete strangers if I can help it.
Thanks you for honoring these men. That was Bowie's hacienda (home) in San Antonio. He'd married the alcalde's (mayors) daughter and was a prominent citizen. His wife and his children had recently died of cholera when he sent them to the eastern settlements to what he thought was a safe place. The pain of this loss, plus cholera, complications from a duel called the Sandbar Fight, and his alcoholism combined to make this legendary fighter a very tragic figure in Texas history.
David Crockett's fiddle is in the Wittie museum in San Antonio. The Alamo and the Plaza in front of it are currently under renovation. But you can still visit.
I grew up just a few blocks from the Alamo and I live and breath that history because I grew up to own and operate a tour bus company that operated from Alamo Plaza. I am always happy when a visitor to the Alamo will point to the gleaming limestone walls and ask, " is that the Alamo " . I smile and answer as quietly as I can, "YES" . That's the magic of the place.
Last year my wife and I visited the Alamo for the first time. I was surprised that the city of San Antonio has grown around it. It still was a sobering experience and I was glad to have visited it after hearing about it all my life.
For those that might go to visit The Alamo, be advised that it is smack dab in the middle of downtown San Antonio, surrounded by high rise buildings, so it can be deflating.
Texas became a republic before it became a state. It's the only state in the US that was an independent nation before it applied for admission to the US and became a state.
Officially there were two recognized by the US Government. The Republic of Texas and the Kingdom Hawaii. One joined willingly and applied for statehood the other was more an occupied territory until eventual statehood
A republic of thieves and slavers. Get it right.
Actually, one could argue that there were at least three present-day states that were independent countries before becoming such. The first is of course Texas, the second being California as it was, for a day, the Bear Flag Republic, and finally Hawaii, which was in of itself a monarchy before it was overthrown in a coup that would culminate with the short-lived Republic of Hawaii and then be absorbed into the United States as a territory.
David Crockett served in Congress. He objected to the Indian Removal Act that led to the Trail of Tears where over a thousand Indians died. He was a brave and honorable man.
One other note just for context. The Alamo is largely forgotten now but in 1944 I'm sure it was well in the mind of the 101st Airborne soldiers holding out at Bastogne as portrayed in Band of Brothers.
This move covers two engagements. The Alamo in San Antonio (Bexar) and San Jacinto which is near Houston actually La Marque. Interestingly the main body of the Mexican Army approximately 3000 troops were only about 50 miles away and the outcome could have been entirely different. Santa Anna remained a prisoner (guest) of Texas for about a year and actually accompanied a delegation to lobby then President Andrew Jackson for statehood in the United States.
Jim Bowie was probably suffering from tuberculosis although we don't know for sure. At the time, they thought it was pneumonia or typhoid pneumonia.
This version of What happened at the Alamo, was pretty accurately told, the seige of the Alamo took weeks of time, this gave General Sam Houston the time he needed to get a large enough force together to fight Santa Ana's army, many of his men did not agree with his continued movements to the east, but he chose that route for a reason, MOST of Santa Ana's Army's heavy weapons were lost during the chase on that trail, his heavy canon's and other materials needed to dig in for a fight, but AFTER his split his Army in half in an attempt to catch General Houston's Army in between 2 large forces, was Santa Ana's big mistake, when he turned his men around and charged, they were no longer charginging a huge consolidated Army, but were charging about 50% of it, and that 50% was missing many of the things they needed to effectively fight off the revolutionaries of General Houstons army, this is why the battle only lasted 18 minutes, years later when the Republic of Texas, (It's own country) petitioned the United States government to be admitted as a new state, and in fact was incorporated into the United States, Santa Ana became so enraged that he gathered his Army, (ALL OF IT) and marched north to assault and reconquer Texas away from the United States, and so began the Mexican American war, which lasted from April of 1846 till Febuary of 1848, and when the cease fire was enacted, U.S. Forces not only defended Texas, but occupied almost ALL of Mexico, all the way south PAST Mexico City, and stopped at the Mexico states of Vera Cruz and Oaxoca, the only land left at that point was the Yucatan Pennisula, the United States came VERY close to eliminating Mexico from the map of the world completely, during the peace talks, the United States gave back a huge portion of the country to Mexico, but for punishment for attacking the United States, Mexico and Santa Ana, was forced to surrender all of what we know today as New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, and Utah, as well as about 60% of what is Colorado and about 15% of what is Wyoming today. Basically Mexico was forced to give up approximately 50% of the size of their country in 1848 for peace, if they had not done that, the United States would likely have occupied ALL of Mexico, and eliminated the country from the map in it's entirety, and we would have probably another dozen or so stars on our flag today. and our southern border would be with Guatemala and Belize instead of Mexico. I do not believe that Santa Ana realised just how costly his actions were going to be when he attacked the United States, but Afterwards, I am pretty sure that he fully understood just how BAD that it could have been if he did not surrender the land that he lost. If he was not such a TYRANT, perhaps the Mexican people that revolted against him in the first place would not have done so, and all of the land he lost including Texas, would still be called MEXICO today.
Santa Ana no era presidente en 1845 era Mariano paredes, después de que perdimos Texas se puso como frontera el río nueses, pero su presidente Polk mando a invadir territorio mexicano de coahuila donde se encontraron con una patrulla de caballería mexicana culpando los de cruzar la frontera
Finally! First time I've seen somebody react to this on YT. As a proud native Texan, I appreciate it. Also I agree, they could've done a few things differently as far as the movie goes, but overall it's still an underrated diamond in the rough. Definitely better than and more historically accurate than the other two previous films. And the main actors played their legendary roles to near perfection, particularly Billy Bob as Crockett.
10 days of bombardment, 3 days of actual assault of the church and grounds. 183 defenders all died there.
If you ever get to Texas you can visit the Alamo and the battle field in the Houston area .
I visited the Alamo once in 2014.
The battle at the Alamo was 13 days. San Jacinto was 18 mins. I'm a born and breed Texan. Jim Bowie was famous for his bowie knife
There were some parts that you need to know about the history to react to it properly. The first battle was because they were surrounded by thousands of soldiers in the Mexican army and only a couple 100 of people were in the Alamo. The second battle was after they got an army together large enough to meet the Mexican army. It's an epic movie and they made it that way; it's not to be overly exaggerated for movie goers!!!!
The Alamo was under siege for 13 days before the attack on March 6, 1836. . The "Runaway Scrape" was when Santa Anna split his army after the battle to chase down the remaining Texas army and this final battle of San Jacinto was on April 21, 1836.
The big knife which Jim Bowie carried is known as a Bowie knife - it was made for him by his brother. Jim Bowie had a repuation as a formidable knife fighter because of his participation in a fight which broke out among spectators at a duel. A bit too much happened to relate it all here, but you can look up "Sandbar Fight" for more information.
The big knife is a Bowie Knife. Jim Bowie created it and he is one of the men that died at the Alamo.
Santa Anna committed several attrocities. The worst was the massacre of approximately 400 POWs he acquired after a couple of battles then executed them at Goliad. Second of course is the execution of the 7 captured at the Alamo.
Absolutely! Even then, were there actually 7 captured? There is room for debate there
@@danielmorgan235I have heard various counts. But we can at least 7.
@mikealvarez2322
Santa Anna was a criollo, meaning a full-blooded Spaniard born in the colonies, like some Tejanos/Spanish Texans. He initially was a Spanish officer and royalist who opposed Mexican independence in 1821 but then switched sides.
@@danielmorgan235 Lots of room
The bowie knife in the movie is the first generation of the Legacy Arms primitive Bowie knife. Made in the Philippines. I have the 2nd generation and the knife is very intimidating
They still make them?
Fun Fact: I’m actually cousins with Isaac Millsaps who was one of the defenders of the Alamo and was from Tennessee.
@boycottdisney2024
His services to Texas will never be forgotten! May he and the rest of the Alamo defenders rest in peace. 🫡❤️
If you want a GOOD Napoleon movie…
WATERLOO (1970)
A screamer is 19th century slang for a celebrity.
Lol no it's not. Crockett in the movie meant just want he said, I am going to scream when you kill me.
He was not trying to get out of him being killed by trying to play the celeb card, 1st they knew who he was, Santa Anna fir sure did, and second Crockett knew he was going to be executed and no way out of that
@@nataliestclair6176 He wasn't executed. He fell in battle. Copy/pasting an earlier reply I had: The surrender of Crockett is inaccurate. I am assuming you believe he did surrender due to the post battle writings of Mexican Lt. Col. De la Pena? I ask you to read a couple of eyewitness accounts from Mexican army Sgt. Felix Nunez and Mexican Capt. Rafael Soldana, both of whom witnessed Crockett's death in battle.
Then ask yourself who had motive to make this claim? De La Pena, an aristocrat and officer whose machismo was so threatened by his pyrrhic victory against frontiersmen that, to salvage his place in history and to save face, chose the most popular man at the Alamo, famous throughout North and South America (David Crockett), and said he surrendered and was executed. OR, the documented recollections of two normal Mexican soldiers who participated in the battle and saw with their own eyes Crockett fall in combat?
Just because a "diary" was found, what is in it should not necessarily be taken as the gospel. A historian must search for motive as well. I find the two soldiers accounts, both who had nothing to gain or lose in telling their tale, as closer to the truth than De La Pena's effort to save face.
This revisionist history movement must cease.
It's weird to visit the Alamo now 'cause it's surrounded by an entire city. Seems strange. Well played.
Yeah it's weird for them to just die on this hill but at the same time it's bit Texas history. Glad to see an outside outlook of it. XD Well played.
I am a Tejano born in 63. The song The eyes of Texas are upon me were inbetted in our brains since elementary school❤
A couple of other famous last stand films. Battan, Wake Island, Last Samurai, Zulu.
Loved watching your reaction. Almost everyone died at the Alamo. Sam Houston and his men were marching to reinforce the Alamo, but didn't make it in time. And in the final battle, it was just Sam Houston (not survivors of the Alamo--except for the one man who went for reinforcements), and his army, fighting Santa Ana and his army (if anyone thinks I'm wrong, feel free to correct me).
No you are right, only 1 man who was defending at the Alamo survived because he was sent to get a message to General Sam Houston about much needed reinforcements at the Alamo, other than that, the Mexican Army slaughtered everyone that was inside the Alamo, what happened at the Alamo, is probably why the U.S. demanded 50% of the original landmass of Mexico.
San Jacinto (the battle at the end) took place miles away and weeks later (it took place fairly near the present city of Houston). General Houston final decided to attack Santa Anna while he was only a little bit outnumbered and while the Mexicans were exhausted from building a camp the night before. The attack happened mid-afternoon and caught Santa Anna (and most of his Army) literally napping. The actual fight took about 15 minutes, it was another 40+ before the Texan officers got their men under control and taking prisoners.
The novelization of this film includes a lot more detail. Like a prospective from the Mexican side, you find out what happens to the women and children and the slave, Joe.
Also, "Buck" is a nickname. The commander's name is William Barret Travis. He was only 26 when he died.
Larissa you always do good stuff. Appreciate your willingness to learn the history and you have become one of my favorites. Your criticisms of it as a film are legitimate, I really appreciate the history so I don't mind it being slow but I get it. Would love to see you watch Black Robe set in Canada in the 1600s.
I would just like to point out I live near San Antonio and have been to the Alamo a few times its a very awesome experience. However during the step over the line scene you are taught one man did leave his name was Moses Rose a Frenchmen who had served many years earlier in Napoleon's invasion of Russia and was just tired of fighting. I guess he figured he had lived through too much to die there like that.
There is some poetic license but accurate for the most part. It is based on the Papers of the Texas Revolution at Texas State University, “The Texian Iliad” by Steven Hardin and the diary of Jose Enrique de la Pena who was a Colonel in the Mexican Army and participated in what was referred to as the Texas Campaign. As to language, the colonists spoke English, the Mexicans, Spanish. Diplomatic communication was in French.
I love this movie
Me too!
Same
As an Alamo enthusiast, this movie is almost accurate to what happened. Way more accurate than John Wayne's movie.
The battle was way more gruesome than Hollywood could imagine.
No records of dogs being there, but there was a cat. After the battle, a Mexican soldier shot it because he thought the cat was "American."
One more thing that I wish this film had: black soldiers. Before y'all go "anti-woke" on me, hear me out. There were black soldiers at the Alamo. All but one name are lost. The records only got "John". His story is tragic. But he was a brave man that got to choose to stay or go, and died as a freeman, even though it was too short.
@JakeDTexas
I’ve been to the Alamo once ten years ago! However, I didn't know anything about the Battle of the Alamo and the Texas Revolution until I watched The Alamo (2004) on DVD.
I lived in Texas since 2010 and I will never forget this historical event!
You really need to provide a source for the black soldiers in the alamo...
Or are you talking about black soldiers in the Mexican army? Because that makes more sense.
I didn't mind the John Wayne version, but I found the outfits in that version to be more 1870s fashion as opposed to 1830's.
32:23 I cheered at this part in the theater 😊😊😊.
my love of history is because of this battle
@javierroque2259
There you go!!!
People weren't smart enough to realize he was an actor? They still aren't. And it will get much, much worse before it will get better. If it ever does.
On the first day of the siege, things happened differently. Santa Anna arrived and raised the red flag first, and then Travis responded by firing the cannon. Santa Anna was not going to negotiate for anything less than unconditional surrender.
Because he had a brother in the Alamo, Francisco Esparza was excused from the final attack, and his brother was the only one that was allowed a Christian burial, while all the others were burned.
Give or take, the battle took 90 mins. The Mexicans lost about 500-600 while all the defenders inside the mission died. Santa Anna dismissed the results as "a small affair" while his army felt different.
On the third day, the Army tried to occupy those small huts that would provide good cover for their cannons. The Alamo engaged in a 2-hour battle with them.
It may seem like not a lot of action was happening but that was Santa Anna's plan; to bombard the Alamo and deprive them of sleep and on the night of the assault he silenced his artillery to lure the defenders to sleep in the hopes of bayonetting them point blank range. But an overexcited soldier cried "Viva Santa Anna" and launched a chain reaction, giving the defenders time to fend off two waves before the third wave breached the walls.
In real life, when Travis made his speech, he took his sword and drew a line on the ground and invited anyone that would stay and fight to cross the line and stand with him. Bowie was on a cot, and he asked to be carried over. Reportedly, only one defender stayed behind and chose to leave. This was the night before the final assault.
Travis's last words were supposedly "Come on boys! The Mexicans are upon us, and we'll give 'em hell!" And then told fellow Tejanos to not surrender in Spanish. As soon as he got up to the North Wall, he fired two shots with his shotgun and almost instantly was killed, so the movie has him die later in the battle.
Captain Dickinson's last interaction with his wife Susannah he said "Great God, Sue! They've climbed over the walls. All is lost. If they spare you, take care of our child!"
Joe the Slave did survive, and he gave his account to Santa Anna, and then after some obstacles he disappeared, never being claimed by Travis's family.
Santa Anna spared the women and children after persuasion, and instructed Mrs. Dickinson to go find General Houston and tell him what she saw, and what will happen if the rebels don't surrender.
And after all that, when Santa Anna was captured, he said to Houston "You are born of great destiny now that you conquered the Napoleon of the West, and now it remains for you to be generous to the defeated." -_-
Hola Larissa, que bueno ver otra de tus video reacciones, como siempre te vez hermosa.✌😎
More movie reactors like Popcorn in Bed, Blind Wave Gaming, TimotheeReacts, Rob Squad Movie Reactions, Addie Counts, and more should react to this film!
Bowie's wife was a Mexican national and she had died two years before this battle.
You should react to John Wayne's version of The Alamo from 1960. While that one is not as accurate, I think it does well in presenting the siege and battle in an entertaining way. I hear what you mean about how they could maybe change some things in this version. One thing we need to take in consideration is that not all stories that happened in real life make great movies. Generally, wars in real life were boring. The actual fighting part in wars only really lasted maybe a few hours or days, while the wait in between could last weeks or months.
It was a 13 day bombardment and stand off before the Mexicans attacked. The entire Alamo was killed for those who stayed and the Mexican Army took a large hit too. But ultimately this would start the chain effect that led to the battle of San Jacinto which was about an 18 minute battle
I live in tx and what they were doing with the bodies is burning them after the battle santa ana ordered the defenders bodies to be burned
Very nice to see your reaction to this movie, especially given your perspective. But I think the reason it seemed to you so long is because it was really made as a love letter to American viewers who were raised on tales of the Alamo and were more hungry for understanding the true details of the battle than they were in being entertained.
Billy Bob was the saving grace of the movie, though. He dominated every scene he was in and made every scene he was not in boring by comparison. So my only complaint is that they didn't make the other two main characters in the mission (Major Travis and Jim Bowie) more interesting. Dennis Quaid was good casting for Sam Houston. And the guy who planed Santa Ana was a good fit. But had they cast those other two parts with actors with more powerful personalities, it would have done wonders for keeping the audience's interest up.
The movie's budget maybe wouldn't have allowed it but imagine what it could have been with say Russell Crowe added to the Marquee in one of those two roles? They needed someone of that stature to play against Billy Bob's personna. But as a result of bad casting it becamse a story not about the Alamo but of Davy Crockett's final days. Which I am guessing was not the director's intent.
I have another American history movie for you that I would love to see your take on. It too is long but you should find it quite a bit more entertaining. It is Oliver Stone's epic masterpiece, JFK. And there are no complaints in casting on this one. It contains an enormous cast of a-listers all giving mesmerizing performances against the backdrop of an unforgettable John Williams score. If you do react to it I think you will love it. And in keeing with your track record, it is a movie that very few of your competitors have done.
Professional soldiers know there’ll be plenty of killing on the battlefield,no point causing a ruckus when nothing’s going on.
Read: Three Roads to the Alamo by Davis. You'll come away with a better understanding. For example: the book points out that Bowie was the only real qualified combat leader.
I had my phone in my pocket and when I pulled it out I see 2 "klh" added to comments???? Please ignore them.
Epic Lore!
In America, Buck is or was a nickname for William
You're right in that the movie wasn't very entertaining. There have been a lot of movies made about the Alamo, and none of them have been historically accurate. (In reality, the Texans beat back the first two attacks that morning. Why they didn't portray that in this movie I have no idea.)
There is one Alamo movie that is more entertaining than this one and more accurate than most - "The Alamo - 13 Days to Glory" - though much of the appeal is in actors that were better known to audiences at the time - James Arness, Brian Keith, Loren Greene - and a very young Alec Baldwin as Travis. Also, Raul Julia and Major Winchester from MASH.
All the defenders of the Alamo were killed. The battle that took place at the end of this film was the Battle of San Jacinto, in which Texas won her independence. In any Alamo movie it is sort of obligatory to let the audience know about San Jacinto - the idea being that while the Mexican Army was being held up in San Antonio, General Houston was still organizing and training the main Texas Army, and the war might have gone differently if he hadn't been given that time.
IF you're interested in seeing another good movie about that period of Texas history I would recommend James Mischener's "Texas" - if for no other reason than it's narrated by Charlton Heston.
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Travis’s speech wasn’t meant to be inspirational. It’s him deciding he’s not gonna mince words and instead telling them the reality of the situation.
To be fair in regards to the final battle, the real thing only lasted minutes. The Mexicans were completely overran and that portion of their army was no longer a fighting force after. The movie was more so to highlight the battle at the Alamo as opposed to the subsequent battle. Nice reaction though, not many people react to this movie that I feel is underrated.
The Revolution time period was roughly 1765-1781. The Alamo took place in 1836 as part of what would become the Mexican-American War. Some of the officers in that war would be leaders in the American Civil War (1861-1865)
No it was not. The Alamo was a battle in the Texas Revolution against Mexico a d had nothing the do with the Mexican-American War. The US Government at the time did not intervene on either side.
There is no record of any General on either side of the American Civil War who fought in the Texas Revolution. There were a few Texans who, very few due to age, who may have fought in the Texas Revolution, The Mexican-American War and the American Civil War.
@@Patrick-xv6qv As a Texan I would like to point out that Benjamin McCullough served in the Battle of San Jacinto under Sam Houston and many years later was a Brigadier General in the Army of the Confederacy.
@@jamiehill3621 His services will never be forgotten! 🫡❤️
G'day Larissa, a much better rendition of the Alamo is the older version with John Wayne as the lead actor at least back in the day the Actors knew how to act and not look like they doing a community theatre play .anyway thank ye Kindly Ms Larissa Ma'am y'all are the nicest person I know on all the RUclipsrs 🌈
I think you need to look up the definition of the word "Siege"
This about America history, not being American you obviously don't know
Now you should go back and watch the other movie "The Alamo" staring and directed by the legendary John Wayne. I think you will get a better overview of the war and a much better understanding. This film is high budget and considered an epic.
I have a minor critique for you. Whenever you watch a HISTORICAL movie for the first time, you should do a bit of research on the subject to gain some insight as to what is going on. This way you would be able to understand why some things happen in the movie and the back round as to why they act as they do.
Watch also the 1960 Alamo with John Wayne it's is good.
THE ALAMO (1960) with JOHN WAYNE is a better movie
Why watch a cheesy remake when you could have watched the original 1960 version produced by, directed by and starring John Wayne?
Not even a remake just a different more accurate depiction, otherwise the John Wayne one can be called a remake too as there have been many films before it
You talk too much when reacting and I wanted ti see you react to important parts of the fight you and skipped over it or you just talked too much through it.
I agree
Klh.
The John Wayne Alamo is more hysterically true
literally no, the John Wayne one is notoriously inaccurate while the 2004 movie is regarded as the most accurate depiction
@@starexcelsior Thank you!!!
The John Wayne version from the 1960s is a much better film.
Less accurate, but entertaining to watch!
Klh.