Which Steel Destroyer Should You Get First?
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
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1:14 - Z-42 Thoughts
6:26 - Ragnar Thoughts
12:41 - Ranking & Conclusion
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Coal ship comparison would be great, since I think that is more accessible for more players than RB. As for cut-off, probably T7 or T8. Those are the tiers were you will begin playing against high tiered ships, you see those tiers in a lot of competitive seasons, and its low enough to be considerate to those who play one-off game modes or operations.
No RB ships are better
Day 6 of crying into my lunch time coffee over the remberance of Worcester dude. ❤
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100% go over RB next. The impact of making a badly-informed choice in RB is significant for almost any player who does so, while coal can be easily recovered. The RB also tends to attract more quirky boats, making them even less relatable.
Thank you for your work and providing quality content for WoWs
RB is easy, take Druid, go pom-pom-pom lol
(I know I’m biased, I love that bote)
Can you please play the Worcester to see if we can make that guy happy???
I picked up Z-42 after your previous video on it as I did not really see its value initially. As someone that perfectly fits the "prefers a more traditional DD role with good detection" niche you described, it's been an absolute blast. It absolutely annihilates enemy DDs that try to contest the cap and that's exactly what I was looking for.
And the end of the day I think the key is getting the ship you're most comfortable playing. If you don't feel comfortable on a ship, no matter how strong it can be, you're not gonna perform
Maybe do a quick video for low tier coal ships, like top 5 T7 and below. Then cover T8 and above as much as you want
Great video! For the coal ships, I think, tier 7, and up is good.
Personally, as a new player, I'd like to see a tech line face off series. One of the toughest decisions in the first part of the game is where to concentrate your efforts for maximum effect. With a side note on which are best for low cost players. As always, your insights are much appreciated M8!
Premium time, hands down best money spent.
@@danielrunyon8534 yea, got premium time but, still kinda slow progress not knowing which lines are best to invest time in.
i would love a series on coal ships, even if its just limited to tier 9s and 10s, cause after having gotten my first it becomes a lot more difficult to decide on what to pick up
Thanks for this and previous videos. I have both dds but I still have to choose... Rgds, good luck...
I think you should do coal ships next. Starting with low tier ones as for newer or casual players those will be their first premiums they should buy. Next the mid tiers, as many of them appear constantly in ranked or brawls when they are in those tiers. Then tier 8s, as is the first time when one is consistently dealing with the high tier way to play (and ranked almost always has tier 8 in the roster). Finally tier 9 and 10, as tier 9 MM is today the worst experience (at least in randoms) and tier 10 has ships that are very good even with the avalability of coal being the easiest "premium" currency to obtain, like the F. Sherman.
I have really enjoyed these series. I started in open beta but quit back when you could still stealth fire.. I have gotten back into the game but so many of the ships, while new to me still years old. I appreciate the way you break down the ships and explain how to to exploit their strengths. If you do a coal and even premium breakdown maybe T7 and up? And if a ship has nothing you would recommend just say so and skip it.
RB would be really nice for me. I got 41k RB points right now and saving up for Ohio which I'll get by the first week of April hopefully
Thanks for the video ! Love your content !
Can you make a vidéo about the most fun tier ship or match ? Is it really Tier X ?
Think I'll get the the Z42 as I don't like open water gun boats with bad concealment.
Don't get Ragnar unless you have steel to blow. It really does nothing that Elbing doesn't do better. The radar on Ragnar is the same as the detection at 7.5. This means if you see them, they see you. If you catch a dd alone in a cap you can win a knife fight but if the dd has any other ships in vicinity giving support, you are screwed. Ragnar is a niche ship that works in limited situations. You will find yourself frustrated. Get Ragnar last. My opinion as a Ragnar owner
3:50 you have 18mm fuse arming treshold, so you will get fullpens on Shima aswell ( 19mm ) but you will not get fullpen on any DD if you will be hitting the tip of the nose, where the hull is just too thin, and 10ms of fuse arming treshold is still a 10ms, which is enough for the shell to past through the thin hull and causing only owerpen dmg.
but in general, you rarely hit the very nose of the hull on any DD, so in general, we can talk about fullpens against all of them. Superstructure is diferent story...
where do you get that "18mm fuse arming threshold" information ?? Noob asking.
@@billhanna2148 ok, so PQ fkng disabled links. ( cause I already replayed to you with link )
there are multiple 3rd party web pages with ship stats, where you can check the parameters you dont see in the game. ( shiptool . st
Love your content pq, it'd end up being a lot of videos, but for the coal ships you could do a category of 8-10 or 7 and then 6 and under for better comparisons!
Hey PQ, as a slightly wacky third option you could take a look at "Rare Ships" eg Musashi, Georgia etc. Not sure exactly what would fall into this category in some cases but it could be informative since WG sometimes makes these ships available-ish and your perspective might be helpful for helping people decide whether to throw money at loot boxes/whatever scammy mechanic is implemented or not.
I really would love to see a Video covering the FDR. As it is the only steel CV atm. I would love to hear an qualified answer review about it and how it fits the 2024 Meta. Maybe you can get some external help and create a video?
I have a number of coal ships and thinking about another DD when I get another coupon. Im down to three options Khabarovsk, Hayate or Alvaro De Bazan. I am leaning toward Hayate but would like to see thoughts on these three. If a comparision on two - probably the Khaba and Hayate. Thanks, Im reviewing your videos often.
Research bureau would be really nice to compare them.
I think you missed the strongest point of Ragnar; the precision of its guns. Ragnar, Elbing, and, of all things, Tiger 59, shared the best dispersion in the game with 30% of conventional DD dispersion. What it means is that, at longer ranges, Ragnar’s effective DPM becomes higher than other dds with nominally higher DPM. For example, at 7 km, Ragnar’s effective DPM is higher than Vampire II’s, i.e. more shell on target per minute, because Ragnar shells hit, if well aimed, while many of Vampire’s miss.
You chose the DD hunting role, shocker. Tell you a little secret, for all options anywhere in the game, everyone ALWAYS chooses the dd hunting option. Almost every feature of this game is designed to anti-DD.
if you're looking for comparison video topics, a ranking of superships might be helpful, too
Can you please make tutorial on how to be a good player in T10 both for rank and randoms?
Z42 is a solid ship. That hydro plus smoke gimmick are working nicely.
Hey please do a video on the USS Maine!!!!! I would like to know your thoughts on if its worth it or not to bid. Thanks in advance!
Would be nice to see a couple of games with these :-)! RB would be my choice next. I'm going to try and pick up Z42, I prefer more conventional dds to be honest (early in the game Z52 was one of my favourite dds, still like it but powercreep...)
Z-52 is honestly better as a torp DD with her leg mod. She doesn't have the AP arming threshold that Z-42 does, so her guns don't hit anywhere near as hard. Z-42 is the king of cap contesters because her AP can delete any broadside DD in a handful of salvos, even Shima.
I would LOVE a coal ship ranking/comparison. T8-T10. Not a whole lotta reason to go below that as most people will be buying in the afformentioned range.
I actually like Z-42 better than Ragnar because it plays a more traditional DD rolw. think coal first, then research. Thank you for the videos.
I’d love to see Research Bureau
Ragnar has extremely good AA as soon as planes reach the mid-range (4 km) and it does not even need Def AA at all. It shreds planes quickly
If you have Småland, do you care about the Ragnar? I have it, and I have to think it is maybe redundant to have both.
Thank god I got both DDs already.
In terms of next ressource ships, I'd prefer RB. Steel is the hardest ress to come by, RB points are next. You get coal very easy and taking a "wrong" ship doesn't hurt too much. RB points are very grindy...
Another idea would be: what could be the 1st premium ship at all. Not for ressources but gold/money.
You forgot to mention Ragnars incredible/insane accuracy. If you can't aim well you will miss for the lack of dispersion BUT, if you aim well then all your shells will hit, it's brutal in that way.
Also Ragnar can't be out detected because the moment you're detected you pop the radar on. Ragnar detect is 7.5K and her radar is also 7.5K.
Honestly though, the way I play her (long range sniping and DD covering) I don't usually get detected until I fire my long range guns (15.6k via 4 point AA and gunnery skill).
Keep her angled properly and she's one tough cookie! She's susceptible to torps though because of her size and lack of maneuverability. About the same size as a Minotaur.
I use the acceleration mod so she can pop in and out of island cover reasonably well although I typically open water her But having that option is great and I do use it that way often.
I have both of these DDs, they are both worth it to be honest. I got the Ragnar first and then the Z-42. It´s just a matter of preference, do you feel more comfortable having or not having smoke? I´m a DDs main, so smoke is not necessary for me, that´s why I got the Ragnar first.
Re: coal ships, since there aren't any at Tier VIII, I think that makes an easy demarcation point for you. Tiers IX-X are what most play most often and there are four Tier VII coal ships (Flint, Blyska, Lazo, and Duke of York) which you can cover in a quick-ish video just by themselves (with a couple 'honorable mentions' for any other lower tier ships which you personally find interesting or fun), and concentrate on the higher tiers in other content.
I would love to see a ranking of RP-Ships next. But i would like to see a rating of coalships too.
Coal ships would be awesome. Personally I wont be investing into any ship below t8. Great vid as always.
Oh but the tier 2 Tachibana is such a beast, no really.
A quick comparison of all the premium Fletchers might be fun.
Not a big player, so coal ships would be more relevant to me. And maybe for newer players who want a fun ship that can also be a captain trainer.
It would be hilarious to do a mock "Should You Get a Steel Submarine?" and use Gato to review the new submarine changes; then "Should You Get a Steel CV?" whenever CV changes come in later this year
I'm interested more in the RB ships because most of them are sleepers but there's also some hidden gems. Van Speijk has become one of my favorite ships in the game.
Would love to look at RB ships
I would do a tier 8/9 ranking and a seperate tier 10 ranking. Tier 8/9 ships are mostly for money earning, so I look there more for cosistency like ships I can play for many matches in a row. Tier 10 ships have no premium credit modifier as far as I know, so I look more for fun ships to play for a round or two. (Sherman, Napoli)
Coal ships would be great
RB ships for 2024 next bro
I go full gunboat on Ragnar, you can bully literally any ship and completely wipe out a CV in 15 seconds if you get close.
You can still easily catch DDs out if you grit your teeth for the 5 seconds buffer before you can radar.
Id like to see the research beaureu, then coal ships, for coal ship rankings tier 9/10
How are you getting this much steel..i only see it coming from ranked and it doesnt accumulate that much ??? Am i missing something here.. ?
Coal DDs. Need advice on which one to get.
F. Sherman has my vote
Neustrashimy
maybe compare the resource ships against other ships in their ranks since theyre probably going to be bought for ranked and for coal theres not many ships low down so may as well cover them like the lazo i think its called
Wouldn’t mind best ships for ranked tier 6/8 - dd/cruiser
RB ships roundup.
But also if possible talk about FDR for a non CV player.
Z-42 is my boat over the ragtard.....cap controller with 10 guns that slap and ap pen, can reach out with range spam or the best cap contestant besides kleber,
Quick smokes are fun running down any one, i found the maneuvering more responsive than most gun boats so you can dodge bigger salvos, but will absorb just about any shell avoid sap and german secondarys (like half the payer base) using range to farm then approach with hydro
Still cant beat kleber as a standalone gunner imo but better team boat than gearing or daring.....
Definitely research for the next round! :D
Albeit, I think more people will benefit from coal round up
hey PQ, what about the copy paste kirov class we got in game? :0
As a huge fan this video dissapointed big time, I was hoping you were gonna show gameplay. Watching you merking makes my day. I need my daily dose. Ive already watched all your vids so i need new footage
Considering how hard it is to get steel dont get the Z42 at all. I have enough Steel to get Ragnar at june, second and I will finally be the most independent from my team I have ever been.
Please do Druid vs Vampire II next.
I like the nearly $6,000 worth of dubs just sitting there. Nice.
RB ships please and the method of maximising the x2 method of getting RB points the quickest.
The Somers! 😂
Elbing vs ragnar, which is better?
Coal from tier 7 to tier 10. My vote is Groningen, love that ship.
Coal ships please!
Don't get Ragnar unless you have steel to blow. It really does nothing that Elbing doesn't do better. The radar on Ragnar is the same as the detection at 7.5. This means if you see them, they see you. If you catch a dd alone in a cap you can win a knife fight but if the dd has any other ships in vicinity giving support, you are screwed. Ragnar is a niche ship that works in limited situations. You will find yourself frustrated. Get Ragnar last. My opinion as a Ragnar owner.
Ragnar is inherently something something...
As for a topic, maybe compare getting a coal ship or a coal captain first and the merits of either.
coal ships, please, from bottom up; low tiers are MUCH more fun than the higher. The playstyle is totally different
The real question to me is: why should i buy Ragnar for valuable steel when Gdansk can be grinded for free?
Thats not a rethorical, sarcastic question just to say its bad... no, i am actually at exact that decision. On paper they seam very similar (for sure with differances, but stil). so what exactly do we buy with our steel that Gdansk doesnt offer. how do the playstyles differ and whats their battleimpact?
Because in the end its not only a decision between Ragnar or Z-42 but it is between Ragnar over Gdansk vs having Lauria, Napoli, Ohio, Stalingrad, etc... (lucky me, i allready have Ohio and Stalin)
Z-44
T7 is where the get interesting for me - but. Not every T7. Maybe like an express highlight reel if T7, then move on to 8 and beyond
NICE vid THE BUTCHER... YER IT'S LOZZADER21 IE GIVEMETROUBLE ..LOL
Coal (DDs) or Research pls
Id like to see a review for coal ships
RAGNAR S tier in RANKED and BRAWLS; F tier in RANDOMS
RB ships first, and then for coal ships tier viii and up
next make video about tier x coal dd 👍🏻
when I play.. I usually play 5-6-7-8 dont have many 9 and no 10
I have both and for me there is a massive difference, Ragnar in my opinion is a S tier Destroyer, Z42 in my opinion is not much better than the Z52, there are very few DDs that can go 1v1 against a Ragnar....
WOOSTAH/SEATTLE STANDARD REQUEST
I just cant take the Z-42's Trade Federation turrets seriously.
Do Research Bureau ships...there are a ton of videos about Coal ships.
Next vid on Maine?
coal ships would be cool
Please make a folly video where you play tier 4 DDs. Torpoedoes galore
Research Ships Please
Up to tier VI plz, more tiers more content
Coal next please
I think maybe tier 6 at lowest. Cause tier 6 ranked does happen
Day 4 of carrying up the flag for the Worcester guy in his absence. We want a Worcester video!
Ragnar is inherently underpowered. It lacks the necessary attributes to make meaningful impact on match result. No burst damage to speak of, split turrets, and yet still retains a fragile platform. I would take 1 Conqueror..Thunderer or 1 DM or even 1 of just about any CA over 2 Ragnars on my team any day of the week. Now... If WG gave it the specialized repair party of the Nestrashimy ( and 1 more base charge)... And maybe a few more thousand HP if could make up for where it is seriously lacking with longevity
Coal ships, t9-10 only.
Tier 10 - 8 Coal Ships...
Day 9 waiting for Patrie secondary build.
G A T O
Greedy fecker - Ragnar
Team player - Z42
Day 3 of requesting Worcester/Seattle Guide in memorial of our hero
Please do premiums!
Can you do a ranking vid on the research bureau ships?
Wait a minute, the Z-42 uses Daring smokes? What traitor sold those smokes to the Nazis?