Handwarmer's Zippo V's Chinese Version
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Its been a while since I did these videos on hand warmers but I still think the Whitby is the best, both mine still work well, BUT as it has been 5 years since the upload I will delve into the world of hand warmers once more as I have noticed electronic battery versions creeping onto the market in the last couple of years SO, watch this space for an update. PS, my Chinese hand warmer are still working great, the Zippo's have had to have replacement catalysts and do not work so well any more!
For this reason, I’ve always preferred the smaller 6 hours Zippo which work marvelously. I’d say quite the same as these Chinese hand warmers. The small Zippo here in the U.S., goes for about $12.00, and I got them in two days.
All that said, I just ordered two of these to have also. The two cost the same as one 6 hour Zippo. I love my Zippo hand warmers, but I’ll have these as backup. Superb value!
Marvelous review, sir… thanks! 👍🏼
I might buy a couple. I have an S-Boston Handwarmer. It is very convenient and works wonderfully because you can start it by pushing a button and turn it off when you don't need it. However, it is very expensive. Around $40 USD. I also have an old JON-E handwarmer and it works fine too. Thanks for the video!
Adam
Thank you for the heads up on the burner.
Zippo changed the burner to the model like the Chinese one you show and now they work amazingly.
I got my china versions in the mail the last week. I also ordered 2 replacement catalytic burners from china with my chinese hand warmers. I've used my zippo hand warmer a couple of ice fishing seasons with cold hands even with the zippo hand warmer. I decided to do a test. I changed the zippo catalytic burner with the chinese version catalytic burner and guess what the zippo hand warmer works like a champ now. Don't toss your zippo hand warmer just yet. Get yourself a replacement catalytic burner from china for $2 and make your zippo hand warmer work correctly.
Here's a tip for anyone that has a defunct Zippo, as I did. After watching this, I got curious, and took one of the spare catalyst heads from a Chinese butterfly model, took the material out of it, and then after removing the material from the Zippo cataylst head, placed the chinese catalyst material into the zippo head, and then replaced the old zippo material under it, and then replaced the retainer clip. That was a $2.00 fix that brought the Zippo beyond it's original perfomance, and it ran for the same time and just as hot as the Chinese one after that. I also ordered a couple of these smaller ones like yours from an Ali seller. I noticed that they seem to have another similar one, but with more holes in it that they say is 50g weight, for $10.00 ($2.00 more), so I also ordered one so I could compare. Another thing I noticed, you refer to the cloth pouch as 'fire retardent', I don't think it is. And again, I'm very curious now to see if the Carbon Felt could be used as the catalyst material, if it can, it would probably last a lot longer in terms of life span. If you get a chance, perhaps you could weigh yours and post their weight.
Useful video thanks. I too have cold hands and needed to hear comparison on hand warmers. I ordered 2 with replacement burners for $8.12 US each.
Thanks for the great info. I have been looking for a while for a great handwarmer and thanks to your video I ordered 4 of them. I am ready for ice fishing! Thanks a bunch.
Adam
I was wondering, now I know what will I buy. Many thanks for this review.
I've got an older Zippo handwarmer that has a burner similar to the chinese warmer. I bought two new Zippo handwarmers for my kids for hunting last year. They've changed the burner over the years to what you have now. I don't care much for the new burners, although they seem to be working ok....they should have stuck with what works good instead of changing the burner style.
agree with you about the zippo lighters jamie! as an ex smoker i have loads lying around haha superb lighters they are but have to say zippo has always been too expensive but the qualitys there though!
will put those chinese warmers on my want list to the wife they look awesome!
Very appropriate video, well done and looking forward to the latest one. I also had good results swapping out the catalyst material in a Zippo for the Chinese material. With that said, a couple of observations on comments made in this video: 1: we have not found that a jet flame damages our catalyst heads, but perhaps this is possible? 2: These pouches are not made from fire retardant cloth. 3: The small Chinese warmers do not get twice as hot as the Zippo's. Given the same amount of available ambient O2, the resultant surface temperature is about the same (about 40C). Heat loss is also a function of the mass of the unit. Remember high school physics: the larger mass hand warmers will transfer more BTU's to cold hands on contact, and then recovery time will be correspondingly longer. For warming hands at -25C, the larger mass hand warmers are more suitable. (They will also require more oxygen to reach that energy while rewarming the body of the unit). The best upgrade you can make to these is to remove all the cotton batting (note the burn marks on yours in the video, that will obstruct efficient catalyst sublimation) that burns at 250C, with carbon felt that burns at 1200C.
I have had the same experience. I got 2 Zippos start of season. I had to take them out of the bag to keep my fingers warm, then eventually the top would detach and I'd have nothing but cold fingers. However they got even worse and now, based on your comments, I'm sure I wrecked them even more using the jetted lighter. So I got 2 of the Chinese clones (the larger ones that look similar to Zippo's) along with replacement heads, from an ALi seller, and I was amazed at the difference in performance, so I bought 4 more (the wait to Canada was about 3 weeks). I was also very happy to discover that regular camping naptha works just fine, it does not need to be lighter fluid. I am recommending them to associates that are in the SAR community, and I'm thinking that I will next try these smaller ones that you recommend. What I'm keen to try, when I can find some, is to replace the material in the catalytic head with carbon felt. Apparently those welder's mats are the cheapest source of Carbon Felt, so I'll grab some next time I'm in the appropriate store. I'm going to embed your video in our website. Thank's for the Head's up! (PS: 2 nights ago where I am in the Rockies, it hit -34C, so these are still very useful right now).
Update, now that I understand them better, you cannot use Carbon Felt as a catalyst in the head, however it does perform well if you take out the cotton batting in the reservoir and replace it with carbon felt. It eliminates the burned area under the head that sometimes develops on the cotton and increases performance.
got 4 of these from china as you say absolute brill best thing i ever got for fishing cheers dave
what is the brand of chinese hand warmer ?
Thanks for the review PimpMyReel, I bought three off Amazon for 18 quid, they are the same as yours but were made in Japan by Kawasaki, Iv'e never had one before but they are great, very hot.
Thanks for the tip on the chinese warmers
Nice helpful vid, thanks.
The bag isn't fireproof, though.
The purpose of the bag (usually made of flannel) is to absorb some of the heat so that you're able to handle the warmer, otherwise it gets too hot to hold.
I bought two of Chinese Version from eBay after i seen this review.
Good man! Was wandering about those Chinese models. Bit smaller than I thought but maybe that's even better? Will be getting 2, Ebay has them in red, green and so on, £4.99
Really like the look of these hand warmers. Cant seem to find them for sale anywhere now though which is a shame. I have the Butterfly Chinese versions at the moment and they work great.
Great review. thanks for pointing these out. Just got mine today, after seeing your review. But they are not Chinese, they are from Japan. Works great.
They are from Shen Zhen China, its written in Ebay
Sheng Qi Wu Sorry, I have purchased 5 of these so far. All from the same shipper, and they come in new packaging, and the box states, " Made in Kawasaki Japan". So, ( Its written on the package ) .
angryagain68 I don't know but in amazon and Ebay they wrote from Shen Zhen tho. Maby its a differente company.
really love watching people lite their Zippo handwarmers with an ordinary lighter
I mainly fish matches and longest I'm out is 6/7 hours now for first 2/3 hours my hands are OK so going of this vid the Chinese warmer would be the better choice but still not sure if they would get hot enuff
Part II now uploaded, Finally......
lol I was looking up on ebay then decided to see if there was a youtube review when the sn rang a bell and sure enough same chap...lol
And Zippos costs three times the price. New reviews on butterfly and whitbey hand warmers coming soon....
Update and new review comming soon
link me 2 seller?
hi PimpMyReel have you tried to compare all of your handwarmers with Hakkin ?
From what I've quickly read; the chinese burner can go on the Zippo one.
Strange. The first time I used the Zippo hand warmer I got that sucker burning so hot that I could not hold it without the bag. I have tried to use it again and could not get it lit at all. I even changed the head and still nothing
Got my warmer in 2 weeks from the same guy on amazon
Thanks! I was looking at the china handwarmers wondering if I should get one and how they compared.
Have you tried the zippo with what I am assuming is an updated catalytic burner? It looks like the Chinese burner?
Nice video you should do more equipment tests
Lewis Simpson Thank youI will in 2015
I have a Zippo and i agree they are expensive but the longer burn time would it make them a better choice (more time) for longer fishing trips than the chinese version?
The old saying 'the light that burns twice as bright,burns half as long' - having more heat pumping out but for a shorter time, might not be for everyone
I wish these style handwarmers came with an incandesent electric lighter built in so you dont need a lighter to start them
My Zippo burns at over 100F hot. How is that not hot enough? Just wondering if your burner is bad or other? In the US Zippo is low cost between $12 and $30 U.S.
So I bought two of these and they are actually made in Japan!
Wot a good video
The Chinese version looks particularly similar to Zippo's smaller 6-hour hand warmer. It uses the same catalytic converter as the 12 hour version featured in this video, but with a smaller body for higher temperatures. Do you happen to know if the catalytic converters from the Chinese version and Zippo are interchangeable?
I have not seen the smaller Zippo, perhaps you could post a link..
well you do need to replace the burner regularly, you need to use ZIPPO brand fluid, and it needs to be in the bag
christopher eckbold Any lighter fluid will do. In fact you could run them on petrol as they were made for this
yes but zippo brand fluid works the best as the directions sad
very strange, i bought about 4back years ago, then as soon as Zippo started selling their knock-off of this i cant find them anywhere anymore. all the ebay ads got pulled too.
Seems CELLBAR10 and bobowaytoway are both not selling anymore.
QUESTIONS:
As for JON-E burners, ANYONE KNOW FROM ACTUAL EXPERIENCE if the Zippo burners fit?
Will the flat catalyst pads work in the JON-E burners?
FORWARD MY THANKS!
Hi .. Jon E handwarmers have gone out of business , there are quite a few kicking around some
quite unused...from my own experience the methods servicing are exactly the same but the Jon E
catalytic burners are different in size and design..a Jon E H/W burner is basically a tube impregnated with a substance ...then surrounded by a metalic cloth weave silver substnce which surrounds the tube.. then it is crimped each end wheels and seels ober the tube....The warmers are larger so a straight fit from Zippo / Peacock is OUT... You have to make do and maunufacture yerself. So what I did...cut the silver weave tube . removed the impregnated silver tube ... fitted a coiled spring .. packed with fibre platinum catalyst from end to end on the spring... so my own devices
the Jon E ..H /Warmer ..comes to life it is like a mini furnace in my clothing and as well as the red baI put it in an old sock to turn it down ... 24 hours from the GI is not a problem
My new zippo burner looks like the china one except it says Zippo and is dated like a zippo lighter...is it fake?
Hello, man, - if you still answering questions on this - how heavy are these Chinese? Are they as heavy as Zippo's one?
+KOTYAR0
About half the weight or less. The Zippo is large and chromed brass, the Chinese is aluminium and smaller.
PimpMyReel okay, thanks a lot.
PimpMyReel I actually wanted to check - if alluminium warmers were any good.
Well, that answered that, because if you're recommending them - they gotta be =)
does the catalytic burner on these stop working at some point.
On the Zippo it's meant to be around 80 times
Hi, can you confirm the burners are interchangeable?
Hi, how do you rate the Chinese cheaper version since this 1st review? e.g. build quality (painted finish, fit and alignment of the parts) , burn length time, durability of repeated use?
+Poncho Gp
I will be uploading the follow up some time this week. All the hand warmers I have tried over the last 2 years have worn well, except the butterfly (Chinese full size copy of a zippo). That did not whare well. It still works but the finish has tarnished.
+PimpMyReel Thanks, looking fwd to it as I'm tempted to buy a couple but building in the 2 wk delivery time. The cheap Far East (FE) version is smaller than the Zippo (Z) and Whitby (W) but as it gives out more heat, it kind of compensates for it being smaller and not having a bigger surface area to give out the heat vs the Z and the W. the FE is not overly small looking at your vid tbh, but it does mean less weight and bulk to carry round in the pockets.
how about a link to where we can buy this?
how long does the chinese one burn ?
Zippo claim to a 12h burn...
I'll always buy Zippo lighters because I've tried many others and the petrol evaporates off much faster than my Zippo I've had over 20 years, but I agree the Zippo hand warmer is overpriced junk and I've had no real issues with the Chinese versions.
Do you have a link for these??
Remove the catalyst burner from the top
i cant find that chinese version on ebay
Sounds like you're using the Zippo incorrectly or your Zippo is defective. You're the first person (in HUNDREDS) I've heard complain that the Zippo is not hot.
I have THREE, they are all the same !!!
hmmm. A friend of mine has a zippo hand warmer and it gets so hot that I can't touch it.
But costs 3 times the price & just a zippo replacement burner cost more than the Chinese hand warmers, hmmm. Bit of a no brainer I think.....
Hello Mr. I couldn't find the seller, could you please send me a straight link? Or...do you have a brandname? Thanks in advance! Warmest regards, Jofffry
thanks mate
Found cellbar10 on ebay and they have no items for sale, seems they have gone bump.
Got mine from ebay user bobowaytoway for £3.69 free p&p. Can't find replacement burners anywhere though :/
buy the zippo brand ...it works great
+Mike Saukas
Chinese work better and cheaper..... FOR HALF THE PRICE
+Mike Saukas well for me, this hand warmer (zippo or chinese) needs to work well in extreme temperatures around -30 to -40 deg C. So the hotter it runs the better.
Bought some of those cheapy's on ebay and they are bloody terrible. The Zippo one works all day. The cheapies died after two days of use. Can't get them restarted no matter what.
how to turn it off ? its possible?
Pull the burner off and put in on a fire resistant surface to go out.
@@PimpMyReel ain't it too hot to be pulled out with bare hands?
Just bought two of these from the same supplier CELLBAR10 They arrived in less than two weeks! They even included a little LED key-chain light as a free gift. I will buy from them again! Haven't used the warmer yet but they look great!
Its the price I do not like
Sorry not amazon eBay
$8 now ;_;
Feel your pain bro =/
There both made from China
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