This review is absurd. The BF Pro is ALL about amazing sound and stability and that's the #1 reason for any interface. TotalMixFX is such a powerful utility, once I spent 20 minutes learning it, how can you hate it? The iPad remote turns it into a total control center. It gives you LOOPBACK, what other utility does that? I don't need a power switch and the 1/4" HP jack is all you need when you use pro headphones. BEST interface, hands down. But it's all about SOUND. And thank you for saying it at 9:00. BTW, I use an Apogee One with my Windows laptop and it works great.
Basically you confirmed what I had mention. Also see the other comments. There are many that has same furstration.Believe me I did learn it , I did read it, and it still a daunting experience. Yes loopback is nice,and it can be found in AUDIENT sound cards, that have cheaper price, better mic preamps for my ears(not scientific) and the mixer panel is times friendlier. I know, latency is different, but I speak for VOICE OVER industry.I am not a drummer and this review is from the perspective of an user that use it exactly for that, and stop commenting that different headphone outputs are not an issue. Guess what, IT IS for me. If you have a vocal booth like me, what you will do? The sound engineer will listen with in-ears and the talent with studio headphones, or? It is ridiculous and stupid. I am honest and I stay behind my words. Now RME teams all day long writing stupid comments, why because they know that I am so right.God bless you !
I just purchased the RMA interface. I am not use the Thomas tax software at this point. But it looks like you can save multiple configurations in the software. I would think once you have a basic setting set up in your system you could use that. Or you can customize it to meet other scenarios and just re-call them as needed. Ultimately we all want a great sound. That is the most important thing and that’s why you keep coming back to RME. Looking forward to my UCX II. Thanks
thanks I love your honest reviews. Let me ask you this.... I currently have the 200 audio interface from Focusrite...if I switch to this RME, will my recording sound be twice as good?
I agree, if you struggle with it imagine how my eyes glaze over understanding the mixer. Tried 2 UA Apollo's which I couldn't get used to and ended up with the BFPro for listening to music, occasional movies on Amazon and others. I would love to use it with my guitars, equipment, etc but it always ends in tears. The sound though is exceptional through my 5 year old JBL LS 305 monitors that just won't die.
I Just bought an apollo twin mkii for my 2015 macbook pro. I spent many weeks looking and researching for a good sound-budget deal. Rme appears to be one of the best sounding ones, but just the look and the user interface really drove me away. Its like it tells you before hand all of this cons you mention. Great video! Thanks, new suscriber here 🙌🏼
@@pascalmerschaudio I had Apollo and this was great card, i prefer it against RME, but the windows drivers are total crap, so I am again with RME simply because of the drivers, not the card.This time is UCX II
Great video! i'm very undecided if buy babyface pro fs, apollo uad x4, or Rme UFX II..Do you believe the UFX II is more intuitive on hardware side ? thank you!!
Thanks for your comments! Ufc software is the same. Hardware ,you can buy remote control, then will be just a bit better, but I prefer x4. Soon I will also be buying one, but I need 2 channels so I will definitely buy appolo twin x. This is my choice.
Interesting video. I’m trying to decide between an used apogee duet and a new BFS. However some search reveals that a lot of users have all kinds of issues with the duet on the Mac, let alone windows. I’m a Mac user. So leaning towards the BFS.
Both cards are entry level.If you hear Apogee and you are musician will like it more. It sound fatter, butj gentle. From other hand RME driver for drums for example have lover latency.So it is a difficult choice.
@@electronicbox6990 thank you. I am a musician and play mic’d acoustic primarily. I saw a recording of an acoustic piano with the duet and loved the sound. You have helped me in the decision. I currently own a focusrite clarett and want to improve the quality.
I have both Duet and BabyFace. BF has this dedicated guitar input that sounds just solid & clean pro signal. (I usually make demo using direct plugin guitar before retaking it with amp) Comparing to Duet, I’m certain BF is more superior. I however never tried Clarett, but had Scarlett for three years.
I totally agree about TotalMix. I've had a Fireface 400 since around 2008 and as you say I have to re-learn how to use it every time I go near it. I still cannot figure out the matrix view for routing. It just defies any logic to my mind. The device itself is superb but Totalmix is just too complex for my small brain!
Although bewildering before training, once you watch the instructional videos on Total Mix FX it is the best in the world. I love my RayDAT and it not only has ridiculously low latency, low enough to monitor while recording, but it is expandable to 40 tracks of i/o, making it future proof if I ever want to use an analog board again. The latency is low enough to use it as a digital patch bay, so you can use the RME mixer to bring analog processing into the DAW without any external routing equipment. I also work on professional AV installations and while I am always replacing other gear, the RME's are always present in the rack doing the job after being on and in use for 12-24 hours a day for years at a time. RME makes true masterpieces for those of us that like to work with native plugins and do not want the additional expense or latency of Universal Audio's offerings.
Every one has his own oppinion. Mine is different. I am a voice over artist ,not a drummer, so I am ok with Universal Audio latency, but to have their plugins is a benefit. Also user experience for me is as important as quality and hands down UA have million times better user experience. Again, thats me, and I am not paid by UA like you are by RME. Soon will make another video to show real life experience with musicians that for the first time see RME.
I just think you’re better off buying real analog gear opposed to the cost of uad… my babyface runs on buss power and with the current quality of today’s native plugins, uad is falling behind the lead. Now with the M1 max chips available, that’s also gonna change dramatically. No need to bulk up.
@@electronicbox6990 I don't get paid by RME. My first high end channel strip was a UA 6176 and it was very expensive. I don't think the Sharc processors aged well and I prefer low latency when monitoring my VSTs and when recording vocals. I do AV and RME is just in the rack a lot. They have them at lifestyle fitness and Microsoft stores for example. The high cost makes me want to consider analog instead. I like being able to choose my own converters. UA is fine, just not for me. I don't even have thunderbolt, my wife can try one in her mac book. I am sure it is fine if you use the direct monitoring feature.
After the Motu Ultralite MK5’s release I would gladly skip on the RME. Yes, the Ultralites are out of stock right now but…trust me when they are the will absolutely reck the RME.
A lot of people taking such a critical approach would come off as cynical or somehow embittered. Not you. This is both humorous and insightful-you clearly have a deep sensitivity to details of this matter, you're clearly frustrated at the simplicity of issues, and clearly bewildered at the decisive lack of resolution. Good stuff.
I agree. Total mix is to confusing. I can't seem to get my mic sound signal loud enough with out increasing the gain to the max In which making so much hiss and static. But wihen I turn down the gain on the babyface and turn up on the mixer total mix nothing happens. No mic sound or signal in my Dahl or sound in my head phones. That's with my headphone volume all the way up.. Not sure if I messed with the settings wrongly but yeah that's my problem with total mix. I currently have the older version of rme babyface.
yes it is confusing.faders in rme doesn't affect the level. To change the level you have to use gain knob.For condenser mics around 34 db gain is ok for the most part, but if you are using old dynamic mic like Sure SM7 for example, you will have hiss sound and gain must go higher.
You can simply bypass Total Mix by activating DAW mode. However if you want to use VST like compressor during recording or live mixing, you shall use Total Mix to avoid AD/DA roundtrip and thus lower latency.
Totally agree with you, but the two hedphones impedance headphones is useful when you have low impedance headphones, other drawbacks of the BF are essentially because of USB powered limited power. What do you think about Arturia Audio fuse in terms of sound, not recommended?
Thanks! You have to be carefull because there are a few DUET versions , one of them works on Windows 10, other one no, but no windows 7 support. Otherwise is good option.
Thanks, that was a very helpful review. Do you use the Babyface with Fireface UFX or similar audio system? I have the UFX and was considering the purchase of the Babyface. Would you recommend staying with RME Babyface for the UFX or go to another vendor?
Do you think these issues would have much impact on a one mic solo podcast? Considering this and the apollo but main priority is sound quality as there won't be much in the way of mixing multiple channels/instruments. Also considering the apollo twin mkii... thanks in advance
For one mic podcast it does not matter. If you are using mac go with apollo x2. If you are windows user better RME. Out of the box apollo comes with super plugins, so for me it is a better deal, but on windows, I am not so convinst.
The point is to give you a level of utility so you can solve any problems in the field. It’s a MOBILE interface. I’m all for multiple impedance monitoring… for when you have to use what is on hand.
Well the review is mine and I am against this . In the field I will use it alone, but in the studio will need 2 headphones at least with the same impedance. make your own review and show your point of view. Good luck!
Great review, may I ask why you don’t rate the AudioFuse sound quality as highly? Is RME UFX for instance that much better? What’s the difference between Audiofuse’s mic preamps and the RME ones? Or haven’t you tried them? On paper Audiofuse is amazing with +70 db preamp gain and decent noise levels.
Audio Fuse is great card. Yes , specs are even better than RME. But buttons feel and driver speed are points that for some makes all the difference.I hope that helps!
I had mention that i never try that Arturia.How to give any score.On paper is pretty good. The problem is that on paper and reality are totally different things if you ask me
Nice video mate, thx for the effort of making it!... but since you're familiar with this kind of tech, to make your videos even better, i can recommend using a de-esser for that lipsmacking. It probably drives all the producers here bonkers.
RME Total mix is sheer brilliance. Anyone who takes the time to use it will know how good and intuitive it is once you get the concept of an old recording mix console with input, playback and output busses. Just make sure you in submix mode otherwise you'll be like Electronic Box, a little lost. Another thing is Cubase Direct Monitoring in the Control Room controls RME Total mix for seemless Zero Latency Monitoring. Absolutely brilliant. I've had my RME Fire Face for 20 years still works perfectly. I control it with a behringer bcf 2000 usi g mackie control. I wish my RME had duel impedence outputs for headphons. It seems I only have the correct impedence and therefore a flat response in headphones, 50%of the time.
I absolutely love RME and their engineers’ dedication to utmost DAC quality. I agree the TotalMixFX learning curve is steep, and honestly I’ve never mastered it. That said, I just want to add my .02 that I no longer recommend Apogee to anyone. They blew everyone away over a decade ago with the original Duet, but the Duet 2 was plagued with firmware issues, and the software support is almost nil today. Furthermore, they have chosen to no longer support the One that I still have, as it is a USB-A device, and I now record mobile on an iPad Pro. It would require a small investment on their part to update their drivers to accommodate USB-C. They instead refused to do it and simply told their users it was impossible and their devices are now useless. This is the opposite of RME’s approach to legacy devices and firmware support. There are still people out there using the original FireFace with FireWire (!) because RME provides updated drivers for most modern OS’s. That being said, Apogee no longer deserves the same status that RME and UA share in the “prosumer” market. Because RME’s DAC’s and preamps best the UA’s, RME wins the day imho. Thanks for your video!
Thanks for your honest opinion, especially about the Total Mix, that I hope RME will fix! It’s so hard to figure out how to prevent it from blowing your ear off! Actually, I’m always a bit concerned about that... I’d appriciate, if you could do some basic setup-clips on your channel - and if so, please without background music (like RME-“tutorials” apparently do: Soooo annoying/disturbing!) Have a nice day!😊
@@jaysRiddum I still haven’t come across responses to my request. For now the situation is status quo, unfortunately. Best wishes to you from Denmark./John
Hello I really like your subjective way and your sharing of experience. I wonder what you think about Motu in general. I m about to buy "babyface pro fs" or the new "Motu ultralite mk 5" using apple M1. I dont like unintuitive controls and wonder if that should make me buy "Motu ultralite mk 5"" with 32 bit output and new "easy" software. Keep it up !
Hello and thanks for you comment. To be honest I once just listen the Motu. I never had one, and I cant say nothing. However, personally I dont like their design, and the friend who had one, was not really impressed. It is not bad for sure, it is a good brand, but it just not apeal to me. I know that the sound and usability are most important factors, but for me, the tacktile feel , the design and just usability is super super important. To be hones many of Motu interfaces looks like a Russian radio or amplifer build in 1998. Again, nothing agains them, but I cant watch this interface all day long on my desk. Even with the cons mention, RME is times better at least as design and the speed of the driver.
@@nikinik7503 Thank you for your detailed, subjective👍and fast answer! I will buy RME, and your point about Motus design or lack of design is taken, I agree. They look like tractor radios from the past. I saw an Audient id 44 interface in one of your videos. I ve had the ID22 with good sound but it started to make pink noise . Im still a little "scared" of an interface without a lot of dedicated buttons. So maybe the RME UCX together with controller unit ARC USB instead of the babyface pro Fs ? Not elegant but maybe more easy. Thanks again!
Great review. I am looking for a while on RME and the only thing that scares me is the mixer. Many love the RME sound and their driver stability which I agree is very important. But for me matters also to have an intuitive mixer to setup different routings for my analog gear and various applications. Checked many interfaces in the low and mid range category. The only ones I find to have an easy and super flexible mixer are the Antelope Orion and Zen Tour. Unfortunately their drivers are not so good...
Yes, you are right.Sometimes you have to just accept the least compromises.But always there will be a compromise with somthing. Almost always top engeeniring products are actually the worst from usability stand point.
@@tuneunleashed The drivers are junk for Motu and they have been for a long time bro. Lynx, UAD and RME are the only options available with drivers that are engineered and non generic. If you want a professional device you will have to upgrade to one of them and spend a bit more, otherwise you are in prosumer territory. Go check the reviews for the last 25years.
Dude I feel you. But really, totalmix is really really good once you learn it. Just read the manual. And it is still a good tool to know, because venues use it. I have honestly never had any issues with totalmix. And people always wonder how I can just do everything from the keyboard. All tools are only as good as the user.
Hello Electronic Box, or anyone else. Have you tried Antelope Discrete 4? I am thinking about getting the discrete 4 vs the RME baby face pro FS. Both sound really good at that price point level.
it looks like all the points you mentioned 3 years ago are still applicable as for today. PC - RME only, Apple - uad. Also I don't get why it is so difficult for audio interface manufactures to add on/off button ... why is that, can someone explain it to me?
Thank you so much for this video! May I ask a question? I am currently using a Focusrite Scarlett Gen 3 interface. I am not happy with the headphone output loudness. I am thinking to switch to RME Babyface Pro FS. I know how good it is. I am a composer, so I spend most of my time with sample libraries. Do you think that I will have better loudness with RME Babyface Pro FS? My headphones: Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250Ohm. Thanks again!
Hello Gorey! I think it will work great for the think that you have asked.My Audio-Technica headphones are lower impedance, but still RME has plenty of power to drive all headphones. Mine rarly goes to 1/3rd of the volume even less.
@@electronicbox6990 Thank you for the insight! I watched some videos about RME's software, and although I haven't tried it by myself you are absolutely right about your concerns :). I think I will buy it.
Hi Niko, you just present my nightmare. I have a Fireface UCX, the sound is superb, drivers are very stable and Roud Trip Latency is very fast even at values like 48khz 24bit and 256buffer size, almost twice faster than the rest of the soundcards in the market. The problem for me is total mixer (exactly because the reasons you told) and for me the main "missing" of the audio interface is not have buttons as mute, dim, mono, talkback, etc. I know I could buy a hardware with all those functions but nowadays most of the audio interfaces has it integrated. My question is, do you think Audient ID44 mkII is a good options, because I have someone interested in buy my UCX
@@electronicbox6990 yes, I'm afraid regret selling this amazing device. But would be very nice to have some physical controls for cut, dim, mono, talkback, plus 2 independent headphones jacks, let's say everything that ID44 mkii has but on Fireface UCX. Specially because you are paying twice the price.
Greatt video im getting my rme within a week its ordered allready. I have a question. Do you think recording your output signal from the rme Back into your daw will sound better then just regular offline bouncing/export? I would like to know your thoughts. Great video👍🏾
Their so called loopback recording is found in monitoring section down and it is helpful and Easy and there is no different than old routing. It might be even better.
@@electronicbox6990 thnx for your answer. But i mean : if i have a mix. And i just use export in my daw opposed to using this loopback method. Is one better then the other? Some people claim they love to this because of the sound of the AD yet other people claim that doing this type of “printing” results in audio degradation
Thanks for the video and honesty... I too am looking to upgrade my old Scarlett 2i2 2nd Gen but I think the Babyface is overkill for me... I'm a self produced artist and only will be using the interface for my recordings: guitar, bass and vocals mainly. I'm torn between the SSL2, UAD Apollo Solo and Clarett 2 Pre. Which one of these do you think will be better for what I'm looking for? Thanks in advance.
I have an arrow. Similar to the solo. Sounds great. As long as you don’t use midi and don’t mind only having two audio inputs at a time... ever. Also the thunderbolt cables are shorter than usb. Also check out prices for UA plugins and ask yourself If you don’t mind the prices, or don’t think you’ll need to buy any. Finally, if you do use any UA plugins you will need to have your UA interface plugged in to work on projects. So if you ever work on the move, or want to do a little mixing in the sofa, you must have your arrow plugged in and within 3 feet of you to do so.... again this is only if you use any UA plugins in a project. If this sounds like I don’t like the arrow that’s not entirely the case. I really like the sound. I just wish it had midi, a couple line inputs, a longer data cable, and didn’t require me to have it plugged in (in some situations).
I own the SSL2+, but I will return it and get the Babyface. The SSL2+ is better than my Scarlett 1st gen, but I just can't stand the look and feel of the SSL2+. It is way too big and feel cheap and plastic. I think the Babyface is very ugly as well though, but it seems to be a high quality construction. RME should look into their country man Dieter Rams' design principles, they have a lot to learn from him.
@@es5679 Other than the looks, did you experience any setbacks with the SSL? As I said I bought a Clarett 2Pre and the latency and preamp gain performance was not great (latency is better in my old Scarlett 2i2 2nd Gen) and it certainly does not justify the price. I want to sell it and get either the Apollo or the SSL, but I'm not sure, any inputs you might give me will be greatly appreciated!
Hi, great video, very helpful, thank you. I am looking to upgrade my audio interface mainly to improve the quality of recording vocals & pre mixing my productions before sending them out to be mixed & master. I have a aston spirit mic with the focusrite forte. The forte has served me well but it has been discontinued, its a little old now & i have issues sometimes with it cutting out. I am interested in getting the Rme Pro Fs & the Focusrite Clarett 2pre usb. Do you know if the difference in quality between these two interfaces is enough to pay the extra £300 for the rme babyface pro? Or is the Clarett good enough upgrade from the forte for what i need? Or is there any other interfaces you think that might be better for me? My budget is around £500-600 Hope you can help, any advice is much appreciated.
Many guys recommend Claret. It will be a lot easier to use than RME. Sound wise they are close. Maybe RME has advantage in converters,and definitely RME has faster driver and lower latency. But if you can buy bigger rme like ucx for example.
@@electronicbox6990 thank you for your reply. I contemplated going bigger however I wanted something that will fit my desktop with it being a small one & also wanted a more portable one.
no need for another mixer... Totalmix does everything you need and it does it well... here is a video, if you haven't seen...it is less than 4 mins, but you will probably need to watch multiple times... to fully grasp... it says a lot about the function of this mixer in a few minutes... ruclips.net/video/CcWClPViBm0/видео.html Hope this helps...
Is it worth upgrading from Babyface(silver) to Babyface Pro FS in terms of the sound quality (D to A and preamps). Is apogee symphony desktop better than BFP Fs
it is 50/50 RME is more clean with less noise, compared to cheapest UA like twin x. But it is too steril sounding, while UA is more musical, rounded sound. It depends from the taste.
Thanks for your question! In the past the Foucusrite was so so . The mix/headphones knob was super bad , the headphone amp was week, but it was good for the price. To be honest I never got the chace to try their new models. What i dont like about them even without testing, is that their high end models are thunderbolt. Well, this is bad idea.Not every computer had this. So the interface must be usb3 and to work from windows 7 and up.
I never had such problem.Swap the monitors and cables. If you are speaking for the headphones and you using mono channel for the mic for example then you have to check input tab and also panning
@@electronicbox6990 I have checked everything cable, speakers....But it's not working..... Please give other suggestion.should I get it repaired.headphone output is and all inputs are working properly.
@@Dhwanistudio If on all inputs and outputs it gives you only one channel, might be the interface problem, or the headphones, if only on mic this is the problem, then you need to check settings on the mixer.This proves my point how bad the mixer panel was made.
actually if you are not completely new to pro audio, I feel totalmix is not that complicated. rme is basically the best you can do, unless your budget goes at least to three times the price
yep, if someone funded this no roblem, but i had the chance to use them one after another, so you can trust people. Especially those ones who dont have sponsors
I have my first RME interface, the Babyface Pro FS, currently on its way here and I’m increasingly concerned about this gigantic learning curve I hear about. But when I watch a little of RME’s setup video for Babyface and Total Mix, it looks elegant and very deep - with quite a few unique/proprietary design conventions - but it doesn’t look too cryptic at first glance. Very beautiful/inviting looking interface too, I try to look at the software interface for my iConnectivity MIDI 4++ interface and my brain melts at the ugly, jumbled, cryptically named pin matrix. I haven’t even used it much yet, since it makes my brain hurt too much trying to get things like iPad audio bi-directional streaming to work with desktop.
@@electronicbox6990 good to hear, thanks. So it also defaults to the XLR monitor outs? That’ll be a relief to get up and running quick. Mine arrives tomorrow.
@@electronicbox6990 I see what you mean now about the interface being quite a head scratcher at first -not as easy to intuit my way around as I imagined. But once I stumbled on the menu/Function/Matrix view - routing audio became a breeze. Matrix view uses similar style routing that many audio interfaces use (like MOTU) Can set levels there for each patch point, FX routing, everything from that easy to read screen.
@@pascalmerschaudio With the design, knobs, and control panel definately NO, but the stable operation, no cracks and hickups and also the best montiring AMP , RME is still not bad. From other hand, UA has great usability, my favourite sounding emulations and plugins, and great mixer panel, but Windows users cant use thunderbolt cards, they simply dont work, not ASIO but WDM driver is the worst in the world. The card also become very , very hot to the touch. And their plugins while they are great, they are super expensive.
wow, an honest and intelligent review for once... there are way too many shills on youtube, and too many affiliate links.... thanks for the video, it's helpful
Thanks for the comment! I prefer to be on the sharp side in my reviews but to be honest. This is the only way manufacturers to listen at some point or another.
Great review, very honest and clear, it helped me out to make a decision. Just a comment about the RME Babyface Pro FS headphones outputs. They are different impedance because they are for different types of headphones (high /low impedance) they’re not necessarily supposed to be used at the same time (although it’s possible) but if you wanna do it you should keep in mind that you will need to connect the right type of headphones in the right output. Another comment for whoever is considering the RME Babyface is, is it really important if the software mixer looks pretty or not? It seems like RME company focuses more on design, sound quality and performance than something else, so if you’re looking for that there you go, but instead if you’re looking for fancy against quality that’s another thing. Thanks!
I know that they are 2 impedance, but the question is WHY? And the answer is because it is an ugly and counter-intuitive design. And the second answer is because their architecture does not allows 2 faders, so they put 2 options for high and low impedance. I don't consider their software design as nice at all. But to be honest RME level knob for monitors is my favorite. Some cards need to turn and turn forever. For this RME is spot on.As always i am completely honest and what i found nice i share it.
@@nikinik7503 No one can argue about your opinion on the layout of their controls or mixing interface in their software, but to me the headphone situation is obvious. It is designed to push one set of headphones. End of story. It is a convenience and nothing else that there is a high impedance and low impedance output. Why is the high impedance output 1/4"? Because it is more typical of high impedance headphones. Why is the low impedance output 1/8"? Because cheap low impedance headphones are usually 1/8". This isn't difficult.
Well, they are close and at the same time a bit different. RME is a bit clinical, while UA is more colored and lets say warm. But to have the best converters in UA you have to buy X16. Unfortunately is super expensive.
I am currently using Audient id14 have tested 3 interfaces for 1 month now I am the last one to order the rme babyface. Tomorrow will be tested. Between the 3 interfaces Motu M4 SSL 2 and Audient ID14, the Audient id14 had the best end sound. Do you really think that I get an even better sound with the rme? Or should I buy an apollo twin after all? I work through windows
See, how is possible the number 1 sound card in the world, don't have a power on off switch. So the easiest option is to set PCusb to turn off after shut down the PC. Thats your only option. But if you are using the PC and you don't need the sound card, it will work anyway
One thing i dont like at rme - dsp reverb work. Try to use any reverb type except space and you will hear a lot of noise. just set effect volume about 0 or more to understand what i'm talking about. About topic. Audiointerface is a core. I don't know companies with such good drivers as rme. Just think about multiclient operations. when you have daw, you tube and foobar for example, and try to switch between them. At this point most of audiointerfaces will need in windows output configuration sample rate lock, some of them will crackling e.t.c So..we have just one choice here for windows users
what about Antelope Audio ? or Audient ? I try both and they are good I `m also a RME user but the Mic pre amp are not that good ! the converters I try : Pro tools HD 192 converter are suck lynx Aurora 16 great Clock Apogee good Clock Antelope Audio HD great sounding converter UAD Apollo good plug ins but leak of bass The Audient good for Home Studio and it have a good Mic pre amp And sorry for my bad English ✋
hi, I just bought it, but I can only hear the audio on one side with a guitar in the 3/4 input with logic pro... but when playing music for example from iTunes, does it work correctly? obviously I set everything up correctly. what am I doing wrong? thanks in advance for a reply.
I own both, Babyface Pro and the Apollo Twin USB, I find Totalmix easier to use than the one on the AU. Besides Totalmix which I use since 2011 is muuuch more stable than UA one
On my "fantastic" windows I had one million issues with the driver of RME not been recognised and I had to unplug and plug over and over again many times.So furstrating.
Audio interfaces driver stability is everything. Still using the gen 1 rme baby-face blue. Couldn't be more happier. You're right sub 300 dollar interfaces are crap. Really lack audio definition. Frustrating driver issues and crashing like crazy when doing a few tracks with plugins. I'd rather use cellphone microphones than that extra 15% those interfaces provide.
the best is SSL+2 i had this and never driver issues. But i stepped up my game to RME and i love it, and also Totalmix, its right the design could more cooler but it works very fine, if you ever worked with digital mixer you understand the totalmix view
Very interesting and direct review. I’ve been considering transitioning from UA arrow to rme baby face fs pro because rme doesn’t force me to have my interface plugged in to work on a project on the go. Also, the separate mic/line inputs in the rme. And the midi, optical functionality. Finally, the price of the plugins. UA preamps sound uninspiring without a unison preamp model set up, and the UA plugins are too expensive. The headphone amp doesn’t seem like much of a concern to me. If I want multiple people to listen, I use speakers. The total mix.... well tbh I’m not sure about this one. I didn’t find the UA consul all that intuitive. I’ve been using daws for 20 years (ableton live mostly) and getting used to the UA consoles took a while.
Thanks for sharing that! RME all day long sends fake comments, but soon or later users face the same issues. Not a bad card, I state that at least 3 times, just need to listen customer more.
Great question, and the simple answer is NO. Everything is the same. While RME says that they have lower jitter, basically better quality, actually it sounds the same.Dont waste your money for the same card.
@@electronicbox6990 thanks for the feedback, would there be any other upgrade if I'm recording only from outputs of a digital piano? It sounds metallic and harsh
@@corolex I am a voice over artist, not a musician and I didn't test that. And here is the other stupid thing of RME. It not say if your input is mic or line. On Apogee for example you can clearly choose input to be mic, guitar or line level. Your distortion comes because you are feeding mic input. In this case your have to use about 30 db pad and then it will work.
Jeg er veldig enig i at RME Babyface pro er veldig unintuitive. Har brukt mange timer på å forstå deres total mixer. Når det er sagt så er jeg veldig imponert over kvaliteten på lyden. Den virker å være solid bygget og etuiet er praktisk når man må frakte den rundt. Jeg angrer overhodet ikke over kjøpet av denne.
This was very welcome information you did a great job keeping it straight to the facts, but I think you're going to be costing me a lot of money. I need four more really good preamps and I didn't look at the baby face because it only has two and then I thought I might buy like a tascam something or other with four pres, or the mackie, but you persuaded me that I should save my pennies and just get an rme with four mic inputs. And I have to say that Babyface pro is just ugly and with the breakout cable and everything just cables all over the place. Anyway thanks so much for a great video, I hope you and yours are safe and well take care
@@electronicbox6990 thanks for the helpful reply, much appreciated. So let me ask one more: do you know if Audient has plans for an iD44 MK II? I'd get that in a heartbeat, but I just can't bring myself to buy the first generation, seems like older tech (and I find the unit ugly in appearance, but that's not an issue) but maybe I'm wrong, good sound is good sound, like what Dave Pensado says: what matters is only what's coming out of the speakers, I'd use Behringer if it sounded good, I don't have gear envy, well not too much! Maybe I should just go for a deal on a iD44 MK 1. As I understand it, those sound great, have digital I/O, inserts direct to converters bypassing the preamps, and 4 very usable mic pres w lots of routing options, and beautiful DI inputs. Actually, as I'm writing this, I'm kinda talking myself into it! Take care
@@WordsMusicbyPaulLawrence I personaly like the Audient ID44 preamps more than RME, but The RME has better headphone output. Audient is week. So it is always some kind of compromise. It is up to you.
@@electronicbox6990 thank you so much for your reply, I agree, and I'm now looking at a used id44 which will save me money, and do the one thing I need this to do beautiful conversion without a hassle w routing, inserts and four completely flat preamps that I can color the way I want once captured. With the money I'll save I'm going to buy a dedicated headphone amp. Since you're being so helpful, any thoughts on a great headphone amp? Maybe with two outputs? Fyi, There's a big sale on antelope audio hardware now, they've got their synergy core system with a bunch of plugins and the DSP for like $600. I gather those converters sound good but it looks like a nightmare getting locked into their ecosystem, the copy protection, and apparently inscrutable mix software. (I had their solo mic for about 10 minutes and was not impressed! I ended up going with the slate system) Sweetwater stopped carrying them with all the quality control problems they had but apparently they're doing better with that, but it just looks like it's too much to plow through. Take care
I never used Antelope, even if they are made here in Bulgaria. I heard many good and many bad points. Their sound is very good and converters too. As you mentioned the eco system is the thing that drives crazy many users and also often driver compatibility issues. (but again those are rumors that other users share, NOT my own experience)
Wow, I dunno why RUclips took its sweet time to recommend me this video. I was like nodding my head off. The device not having a power switch tells it all. They are like Apple. They are damn good at what they do and understands the ins and outs a lot more than their competitors, but in the end, it's their way or the highway.
ID 44 is great. Its mic preamps are better than RME. The interface is a LOT friendlier. The ONLY issue I have was that the volume knob needs a lot of turns until the desired volume is reached. I noted that to Audient support, but they don't listen. On RME volume knob is more what you will feel as normal. ID 44 + Audien NERO is a great combo!
That's what I am talking about. Thanks for the question!. I had explained million times to RME that their control panel while it is very fast, is super counterintuitive. But I have to say that if you learn it, then will not be great, still will drive you crazy, but will be a lot easy. The most important is the routing. Basically, if you need to hear something on your headphones, you have click on the headphone channel down below in the mixer just to select it, and then raise the fader from where you want to signal to come.RME old videos for me was much better than the latest ones. So use this link, and watch it as a series: ruclips.net/video/3CirlPcokfQ/видео.html
@@danielvelaaranda8490 Hola Daniel muchas gracias , por ejemplo me gustaría hacer streamings y hay muchas cosas que no entiendo del Total Mix, me he podido grabar super bien en Reaper, pero no se como configurar para hacer una trasmisión en vivo por facebook por ejemplo.
I prefer apollo all the way.At least it comes with plugins preamps, that costs at least double that price. The only problem is thunderbolt but if you have mac,thats pk.
I do not agree with you. Rme mixer makes sense for anybody who knows a bit about routing. Try to rout an external effect on apollo. I wish you luck. Anyway good review. By the way I have a rme fireface 800 that I used for 20 years. Still works and still sounds great. Take care
@@noizrunitupii3791 Watch RME tutorials They are crucial. Thats why I had mention that control panel is super bad. If it needs to read the manual is not good. RME must wake up and understand that now is 2020, and if there is a month learning curve the product is no good.
good on point well said. thanks. I wonder why RME people never listen about this. I wish they do and make better of their already good product, and.. perhaps also lowered the prices a bit too hehe.. because like it's being said in the video, it's true that many if not all of RME (especially the Babyface) users are home studio musicians with small budget
I agree. Total Mix is horrible and has a very steep learning curve. Not intuitive at all. Sure, reading the Bible-thick manual would probably answer most questions, but it really is unnecessarily complicated. Sound wise, it's perfect though
@@fade8358 I don't have experience with many preamps, but Great River and Warm Audio are great ones ,clones to Neve preamp.I try them and they sound great.
Yep. Controversial at its best. Total mix is a little bit more complicated than ua or apogee or audient (a lot more confusing later one). But it’s also a lot more flexible. And usually complexity and ease of use doesn’t go toe to toe. But it’s not that much complex so you need to finish Harvard and learn to operate shuttle to use total mix. That said the deep complexity of software is well justified. One headphone output and one stereo output. This interface is for small bedroom studios and for travelling producers. You want 2 headphone outputs and more monitor outputs? Buy bigger one. Don’t see any problem here other than interface have not enough features specifically for you and your needs. In fact I like to have 2 headphone outputs dedicated to high and low impedance headphones. Very convenient for people who use both and don’t want to compromise audio quality. Power button yes. Would be nice.
It seems like you are complaining about the control interface simply because of how complicated it is. A simpler interface would have to be much less powerful. At least they are all OSC compatible so you can make an interface with just the functionality and layouts you need.
Everybody can be as neardy as he wants, and dig as deeply as he wants.Again, I share MY OWN experience. If you have your own, make a channel, your point of view and that's it. As I see it is not only me that thinks that this is really the case for many users.
@@electronicbox6990 an optional simplified UI would be nice. I plan on making one for my use case. The fact that this is possible to do is awesome as many manufacturers rely on proprietary control implementations. I just might start a youtube chanmel if I can figure out some of the logistics...
Аз си купих преди около година едната от RME Babyface Pro която този човек продаде. Просто съм изумен от кристалния звук, който излиза от картата. Не бих я заменил!
@@jub.3436 Bought the symphony mk1 years back which now has no aftermarket value and is also mac compatible only. RME is both pc/mac compatible with lasting value, small/efficient/portable and best sounding interface under $1k margin imo.
This review is absurd. The BF Pro is ALL about amazing sound and stability and that's the #1 reason for any interface. TotalMixFX is such a powerful utility, once I spent 20 minutes learning it, how can you hate it? The iPad remote turns it into a total control center. It gives you LOOPBACK, what other utility does that? I don't need a power switch and the 1/4" HP jack is all you need when you use pro headphones. BEST interface, hands down. But it's all about SOUND. And thank you for saying it at 9:00.
BTW, I use an Apogee One with my Windows laptop and it works great.
Basically you confirmed what I had mention. Also see the other comments. There are many that has same furstration.Believe me I did learn it , I did read it, and it still a daunting experience. Yes loopback is nice,and it can be found in AUDIENT sound cards, that have cheaper price, better mic preamps for my ears(not scientific) and the mixer panel is times friendlier. I know, latency is different, but I speak for VOICE OVER industry.I am not a drummer and this review is from the perspective of an user that use it exactly for that, and stop commenting that different headphone outputs are not an issue. Guess what, IT IS for me. If you have a vocal booth like me, what you will do? The sound engineer will listen with in-ears and the talent with studio headphones, or? It is ridiculous and stupid. I am honest and I stay behind my words. Now RME teams all day long writing stupid comments, why because they know that I am so right.God bless you !
I just purchased the RMA interface. I am not use the Thomas tax software at this point. But it looks like you can save multiple configurations in the software. I would think once you have a basic setting set up in your system you could use that. Or you can customize it to meet other scenarios and just re-call them as needed. Ultimately we all want a great sound. That is the most important thing and that’s why you keep coming back to RME. Looking forward to my UCX II. Thanks
he sold it again, thats what he wrote a comment section before
thanks I love your honest reviews. Let me ask you this.... I currently have the 200 audio interface from Focusrite...if I switch to this RME, will my recording sound be twice as good?
Honest review, thank you very much.
Wow. Thank you very much. You make my eyes open.
Very helpful, thank you!
Great to hear Pro's and Con's!
I agree, if you struggle with it imagine how my eyes glaze over understanding the mixer. Tried 2 UA Apollo's which I couldn't get used to and ended up with the BFPro for listening to music, occasional movies on Amazon and others. I would love to use it with my guitars, equipment, etc but it always ends in tears. The sound though is exceptional through my 5 year old JBL LS 305 monitors that just won't die.
very good review, ofc as a RME BBface FS user you made it very clear. thank you so much brother
My pleasure!
Love this video. Thanks for the advice.
Very helpful review, thank you so much for sharing!
I Just bought an apollo twin mkii for my 2015 macbook pro. I spent many weeks looking and researching for a good sound-budget deal. Rme appears to be one of the best sounding ones, but just the look and the user interface really drove me away. Its like it tells you before hand all of this cons you mention. Great video! Thanks, new suscriber here 🙌🏼
Good choice! I also have purchased Appolo and sold the RME. Now will see if the windows drivers are fixed .
@@electronicbox6990 ok you ar no more RME right ?
@@pascalmerschaudio I had Apollo and this was great card, i prefer it against RME, but the windows drivers are total crap, so I am again with RME simply because of the drivers, not the card.This time is UCX II
Great video! i'm very undecided if buy babyface pro fs, apollo uad x4, or Rme UFX II..Do you believe the UFX II is more intuitive on hardware side ? thank you!!
Thanks for your comments! Ufc software is the same. Hardware ,you can buy remote control, then will be just a bit better, but I prefer x4. Soon I will also be buying one, but I need 2 channels so I will definitely buy appolo twin x. This is my choice.
Interesting video. I’m trying to decide between an used apogee duet and a new BFS. However some search reveals that a lot of users have all kinds of issues with the duet on the Mac, let alone windows. I’m a Mac user. So leaning towards the BFS.
Both cards are entry level.If you hear Apogee and you are musician will like it more. It sound fatter, butj gentle. From other hand RME driver for drums for example have lover latency.So it is a difficult choice.
@@electronicbox6990 thank you. I am a musician and play mic’d acoustic primarily. I saw a recording of an acoustic piano with the duet and loved the sound. You have helped me in the decision. I currently own a focusrite clarett and want to improve the quality.
I have both Duet and BabyFace. BF has this dedicated guitar input that sounds just solid & clean pro signal. (I usually make demo using direct plugin guitar before retaking it with amp) Comparing to Duet, I’m certain BF is more superior. I however never tried Clarett, but had Scarlett for three years.
I totally agree about TotalMix. I've had a Fireface 400 since around 2008 and as you say I have to re-learn how to use it every time I go near it. I still cannot figure out the matrix view for routing. It just defies any logic to my mind. The device itself is superb but Totalmix is just too complex for my small brain!
Although bewildering before training, once you watch the instructional videos on Total Mix FX it is the best in the world. I love my RayDAT and it not only has ridiculously low latency, low enough to monitor while recording, but it is expandable to 40 tracks of i/o, making it future proof if I ever want to use an analog board again. The latency is low enough to use it as a digital patch bay, so you can use the RME mixer to bring analog processing into the DAW without any external routing equipment. I also work on professional AV installations and while I am always replacing other gear, the RME's are always present in the rack doing the job after being on and in use for 12-24 hours a day for years at a time. RME makes true masterpieces for those of us that like to work with native plugins and do not want the additional expense or latency of Universal Audio's offerings.
Every one has his own oppinion. Mine is different. I am a voice over artist ,not a drummer, so I am ok with Universal Audio latency, but to have their plugins is a benefit. Also user experience for me is as important as quality and hands down UA have million times better user experience. Again, thats me, and I am not paid by UA like you are by RME. Soon will make another video to show real life experience with musicians that for the first time see RME.
I just think you’re better off buying real analog gear opposed to the cost of uad… my babyface runs on buss power and with the current quality of today’s native plugins, uad is falling behind the lead. Now with the M1 max chips available, that’s also gonna change dramatically. No need to bulk up.
@@electronicbox6990 I don't get paid by RME. My first high end channel strip was a UA 6176 and it was very expensive. I don't think the Sharc processors aged well and I prefer low latency when monitoring my VSTs and when recording vocals. I do AV and RME is just in the rack a lot. They have them at lifestyle fitness and Microsoft stores for example. The high cost makes me want to consider analog instead. I like being able to choose my own converters. UA is fine, just not for me. I don't even have thunderbolt, my wife can try one in her mac book. I am sure it is fine if you use the direct monitoring feature.
@@clemdog76 I agree.
After the Motu Ultralite MK5’s release I would gladly skip on the RME. Yes, the Ultralites are out of stock right now but…trust me when they are the will absolutely reck the RME.
A lot of people taking such a critical approach would come off as cynical or somehow embittered. Not you. This is both humorous and insightful-you clearly have a deep sensitivity to details of this matter, you're clearly frustrated at the simplicity of issues, and clearly bewildered at the decisive lack of resolution. Good stuff.
I agree. Total mix is to confusing. I can't seem to get my mic sound signal loud enough with out increasing the gain to the max In which making so much hiss and static. But wihen I turn down the gain on the babyface and turn up on the mixer total mix nothing happens. No mic sound or signal in my Dahl or sound in my head phones. That's with my headphone volume all the way up.. Not sure if I messed with the settings wrongly but yeah that's my problem with total mix. I currently have the older version of rme babyface.
yes it is confusing.faders in rme doesn't affect the level. To change the level you have to use gain knob.For condenser mics around 34 db gain is ok for the most part, but if you are using old dynamic mic like Sure SM7 for example, you will have hiss sound and gain must go higher.
You can simply bypass Total Mix by activating DAW mode. However if you want to use VST like compressor during recording or live mixing, you shall use Total Mix to avoid AD/DA roundtrip and thus lower latency.
how do you do that? i cant figure it out.. please help
Totally agree with you, but the two hedphones impedance headphones is useful when you have low impedance headphones, other drawbacks of the BF are essentially because of USB powered limited power. What do you think about Arturia Audio fuse in terms of sound, not recommended?
Arturia is good choice
Is the apogee duet still relevant? Second hand its not that expensive, im on pc tough. Great channel I subscribe!
Thanks! You have to be carefull because there are a few DUET versions , one of them works on Windows 10, other one no, but no windows 7 support. Otherwise is good option.
Thanks, that was a very helpful review. Do you use the Babyface with Fireface UFX or similar audio system? I have the UFX and was considering the purchase of the Babyface. Would you recommend staying with RME Babyface for the UFX or go to another vendor?
I work for commercials and small vo projects with one or two mics. Never own ufx but I think no need to go lower to babyface. Keep ufx.
watch my next wideo. it will come out soon, and it will be super interesting.
Do you think these issues would have much impact on a one mic solo podcast? Considering this and the apollo but main priority is sound quality as there won't be much in the way of mixing multiple channels/instruments. Also considering the apollo twin mkii... thanks in advance
For one mic podcast it does not matter. If you are using mac go with apollo x2. If you are windows user better RME. Out of the box apollo comes with super plugins, so for me it is a better deal, but on windows, I am not so convinst.
The point is to give you a level of utility so you can solve any problems in the field. It’s a MOBILE interface. I’m all for multiple impedance monitoring… for when you have to use what is on hand.
Well the review is mine and I am against this . In the field I will use it alone, but in the studio will need 2 headphones at least with the same impedance. make your own review and show your point of view. Good luck!
Thanks for your point of view! Do you think this Arturia is a good option for recording mostly acoustic music and musical listening? Have a nice day!
Yes, Arturia is very good too.
Great review, may I ask why you don’t rate the AudioFuse sound quality as highly? Is RME UFX for instance that much better? What’s the difference between Audiofuse’s mic preamps and the RME ones? Or haven’t you tried them? On paper Audiofuse is amazing with +70 db preamp gain and decent noise levels.
Audio Fuse is great card. Yes , specs are even better than RME. But buttons feel and driver speed are points that for some makes all the difference.I hope that helps!
Thanks.
I had mention that i never try that Arturia.How to give any score.On paper is pretty good. The problem is that on paper and reality are totally different things if you ask me
Nice video mate, thx for the effort of making it!... but since you're familiar with this kind of tech, to make your videos even better, i can recommend using a de-esser for that lipsmacking. It probably drives all the producers here bonkers.
RME Total mix is sheer brilliance. Anyone who takes the time to use it will know how good and intuitive it is once you get the concept of an old recording mix console with input, playback and output busses.
Just make sure you in submix mode otherwise you'll be like Electronic Box, a little lost.
Another thing is Cubase Direct Monitoring in the Control Room controls RME Total mix for seemless Zero Latency Monitoring. Absolutely brilliant.
I've had my RME Fire Face for 20 years still works perfectly. I control it with a behringer bcf 2000 usi g mackie control.
I wish my RME had duel impedence outputs for headphons. It seems I only have the correct impedence and therefore a flat response in headphones, 50%of the time.
I absolutely love RME and their engineers’ dedication to utmost DAC quality. I agree the TotalMixFX learning curve is steep, and honestly I’ve never mastered it. That said, I just want to add my .02 that I no longer recommend Apogee to anyone. They blew everyone away over a decade ago with the original Duet, but the Duet 2 was plagued with firmware issues, and the software support is almost nil today. Furthermore, they have chosen to no longer support the One that I still have, as it is a USB-A device, and I now record mobile on an iPad Pro. It would require a small investment on their part to update their drivers to accommodate USB-C. They instead refused to do it and simply told their users it was impossible and their devices are now useless. This is the opposite of RME’s approach to legacy devices and firmware support. There are still people out there using the original FireFace with FireWire (!) because RME provides updated drivers for most modern OS’s. That being said, Apogee no longer deserves the same status that RME and UA share in the “prosumer” market. Because RME’s DAC’s and preamps best the UA’s, RME wins the day imho. Thanks for your video!
I see it exactly like you with RME, love my UFX 2
Thanks for your honest opinion, especially about the Total Mix, that I hope RME will fix!
It’s so hard to figure out how to prevent it from blowing your ear off! Actually, I’m always a bit concerned about that...
I’d appriciate, if you could do some basic setup-clips on your channel - and if so, please without background music (like RME-“tutorials” apparently do: Soooo annoying/disturbing!)
Have a nice day!😊
Did you learn the total mix yet because I need some help also
@@jaysRiddum I still haven’t come across responses to my request. For now the situation is status quo, unfortunately. Best wishes to you from Denmark./John
Just use daw mode
I really hope rme makes totalmix easier to use or i may have to switch up in the future and go with audient or Apollo
Hello I really like your subjective way and your sharing of experience. I wonder what you think about Motu in general. I m about to buy "babyface pro fs" or the new "Motu ultralite mk 5" using apple M1. I dont like unintuitive controls and wonder if that should make me buy "Motu ultralite mk 5"" with 32 bit output and new "easy" software. Keep it up !
Hello and thanks for you comment. To be honest I once just listen the Motu. I never had one, and I cant say nothing. However, personally I dont like their design, and the friend who had one, was not really impressed. It is not bad for sure, it is a good brand, but it just not apeal to me. I know that the sound and usability are most important factors, but for me, the tacktile feel , the design and just usability is super super important. To be hones many of Motu interfaces looks like a Russian radio or amplifer build in 1998. Again, nothing agains them, but I cant watch this interface all day long on my desk. Even with the cons mention, RME is times better at least as design and the speed of the driver.
@@nikinik7503 Thank you for your detailed, subjective👍and fast answer! I will buy RME, and your point about Motus design or lack of design is taken, I agree. They look like tractor radios from the past. I saw an Audient id 44 interface in one of your videos. I ve had the ID22 with good sound but it started to make pink noise . Im still a little "scared" of an interface without a lot of dedicated buttons. So maybe the RME UCX together with controller unit ARC USB instead of the babyface pro Fs ? Not elegant but maybe more easy. Thanks again!
@@pml394 yeap ucx with remote is very good.
@@pml394 Yes ,UCX + controller is ok.
Great review. I am looking for a while on RME and the only thing that scares me is the mixer. Many love the RME sound and their driver stability which I agree is very important.
But for me matters also to have an intuitive mixer to setup different routings for my analog gear and various applications.
Checked many interfaces in the low and mid range category. The only ones I find to have an easy and super flexible mixer are the Antelope Orion and Zen Tour. Unfortunately their drivers are not so good...
Yes, you are right.Sometimes you have to just accept the least compromises.But always there will be a compromise with somthing. Almost always top engeeniring products are actually the worst from usability stand point.
Dude, stay still and wait for the Motu Ultralite Mark 5 to restock again.
@@tuneunleashed The drivers are junk for Motu and they have been for a long time bro. Lynx, UAD and RME are the only options available with drivers that are engineered and non generic. If you want a professional device you will have to upgrade to one of them and spend a bit more, otherwise you are in prosumer territory. Go check the reviews for the last 25years.
Dude I feel you. But really, totalmix is really really good once you learn it. Just read the manual. And it is still a good tool to know, because venues use it. I have honestly never had any issues with totalmix. And people always wonder how I can just do everything from the keyboard. All tools are only as good as the user.
@@electronicbox6990 in the meantime took an Apogee Ensemble TB and I am pretty much happy. Super stable drivers.
Hello Electronic Box, or anyone else.
Have you tried Antelope Discrete 4? I am thinking about getting the discrete 4 vs the RME baby face pro FS.
Both sound really good at that price point level.
Yes, i think it is a good option.Their plugins are also very good,and basically the card becomes a gift.
Thanks, good review. I have one question for you, the preamps and Ad/DA converters in this unit are better than an Audient preamps?
For the converters i cant say because this has to be measured, but for mic preamp Audient ID44 is audible better. dont go to lower audient models.
I Like Apogee, sad that it's not stable on Win, sudden drops on Windows will make you crazy! Btw, very good review!
Thanks Igor! I also like Apogee a LOT!
it looks like all the points you mentioned 3 years ago are still applicable as for today. PC - RME only, Apple - uad. Also I don't get why it is so difficult for audio interface manufactures to add on/off button ... why is that, can someone explain it to me?
Thank you so much for this video! May I ask a question? I am currently using a Focusrite Scarlett Gen 3 interface. I am not happy with the headphone output loudness. I am thinking to switch to RME Babyface Pro FS. I know how good it is. I am a composer, so I spend most of my time with sample libraries. Do you think that I will have better loudness with RME Babyface Pro FS? My headphones: Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250Ohm. Thanks again!
Hello Gorey! I think it will work great for the think that you have asked.My Audio-Technica headphones are lower impedance, but still RME has plenty of power to drive all headphones. Mine rarly goes to 1/3rd of the volume even less.
@@electronicbox6990 Thank you for the insight! I watched some videos about RME's software, and although I haven't tried it by myself you are absolutely right about your concerns :). I think I will buy it.
Hi Gorey. I spend few years mixing using Focusrite Scarlett. I can say RME is so good it wont disappoint you. Good luck.
Hi Niko, you just present my nightmare. I have a Fireface UCX, the sound is superb, drivers are very stable and Roud Trip Latency is very fast even at values like 48khz 24bit and 256buffer size, almost twice faster than the rest of the soundcards in the market. The problem for me is total mixer (exactly because the reasons you told) and for me the main "missing" of the audio interface is not have buttons as mute, dim, mono, talkback, etc. I know I could buy a hardware with all those functions but nowadays most of the audio interfaces has it integrated. My question is, do you think Audient ID44 mkII is a good options, because I have someone interested in buy my UCX
Finally someone honest to say the truth out loud! Thanks brother! I still think that learning rme mixer is worht the hassle.
@@electronicbox6990 yes, I'm afraid regret selling this amazing device. But would be very nice to have some physical controls for cut, dim, mono, talkback, plus 2 independent headphones jacks, let's say everything that ID44 mkii has but on Fireface UCX. Specially because you are paying twice the price.
How can i control my mic gain with babyfce Big knob. The knob which is under 48v.
Greatt video im getting my rme within a week its ordered allready. I have a question. Do you think recording your output signal from the rme Back into your daw will sound better then just regular offline bouncing/export? I would like to know your thoughts. Great video👍🏾
Their so called loopback recording is found in monitoring section down and it is helpful and Easy and there is no different than old routing. It might be even better.
@@electronicbox6990 thnx for your answer. But i mean : if i have a mix. And i just use export in my daw opposed to using this loopback method. Is one better then the other? Some people claim they love to this because of the sound of the AD yet other people claim that doing this type of “printing” results in audio degradation
@@inspyremusicnl5826 I cant say if it is better or not.Never make this yet myself.
can i use rme + Sm7b togther in windows for livestream , games voice chat and discord?
@@demon-ll9eg I believe yes. I never use it for that, but for example Skype sessions works good.
Thanks for the video and honesty... I too am looking to upgrade my old Scarlett 2i2 2nd Gen but I think the Babyface is overkill for me... I'm a self produced artist and only will be using the interface for my recordings: guitar, bass and vocals mainly. I'm torn between the SSL2, UAD Apollo Solo and Clarett 2 Pre. Which one of these do you think will be better for what I'm looking for? Thanks in advance.
For me Apollo will be my choice from what you had mentioned.But this is my oppinion.
I have an arrow. Similar to the solo. Sounds great. As long as you don’t use midi and don’t mind only having two audio inputs at a time... ever. Also the thunderbolt cables are shorter than usb. Also check out prices for UA plugins and ask yourself If you don’t mind the prices, or don’t think you’ll need to buy any.
Finally, if you do use any UA plugins you will need to have your UA interface plugged in to work on projects. So if you ever work on the move, or want to do a little mixing in the sofa, you must have your arrow plugged in and within 3 feet of you to do so.... again this is only if you use any UA plugins in a project.
If this sounds like I don’t like the arrow that’s not entirely the case. I really like the sound. I just wish it had midi, a couple line inputs, a longer data cable, and didn’t require me to have it plugged in (in some situations).
Thank you both for your inputs... I ended up getting a Clarett 2Pre but I'm extremely underwhelmed by it! I might sell it and get the Apollo! 🤘🏻
I own the SSL2+, but I will return it and get the Babyface. The SSL2+ is better than my Scarlett 1st gen, but I just can't stand the look and feel of the SSL2+. It is way too big and feel cheap and plastic. I think the Babyface is very ugly as well though, but it seems to be a high quality construction. RME should look into their country man Dieter Rams' design principles, they have a lot to learn from him.
@@es5679 Other than the looks, did you experience any setbacks with the SSL? As I said I bought a Clarett 2Pre and the latency and preamp gain performance was not great (latency is better in my old Scarlett 2i2 2nd Gen) and it certainly does not justify the price. I want to sell it and get either the Apollo or the SSL, but I'm not sure, any inputs you might give me will be greatly appreciated!
Hi, great video, very helpful, thank you.
I am looking to upgrade my audio interface mainly to improve the quality of recording vocals & pre mixing my productions before sending them out to be mixed & master.
I have a aston spirit mic with the focusrite forte. The forte has served me well but it has been discontinued, its a little old now & i have issues sometimes with it cutting out.
I am interested in getting the Rme Pro Fs & the Focusrite Clarett 2pre usb. Do you know if the difference in quality between these two interfaces is enough to pay the extra £300 for the rme babyface pro? Or is the Clarett good enough upgrade from the forte for what i need? Or is there any other interfaces you think that might be better for me? My budget is around £500-600
Hope you can help, any advice is much appreciated.
Many guys recommend Claret. It will be a lot easier to use than RME. Sound wise they are close. Maybe RME has advantage in converters,and definitely RME has faster driver and lower latency. But if you can buy bigger rme like ucx for example.
@@electronicbox6990 thank you for your reply. I contemplated going bigger however I wanted something that will fit my desktop with it being a small one & also wanted a more portable one.
@@ledouu rme babyface pro fs is the best for u
@@demon-ll9eg appreciate the feedback!
Thank you very much. i have the same feeling as you.
I am glad that many people share the same feelings.!
did you know that there is a alternative Mixer Mode for Total Mix which is a bit more intuitive to use?
no need for another mixer... Totalmix does everything you need and it does it well... here is a video, if you haven't seen...it is less than 4 mins, but you will probably need to watch multiple times... to fully grasp... it says a lot about the function of this mixer in a few minutes... ruclips.net/video/CcWClPViBm0/видео.html Hope this helps...
Helpful & Informative.
Is it worth upgrading from Babyface(silver) to Babyface Pro FS in terms of the sound quality (D to A and preamps). Is apogee symphony desktop better than BFP Fs
If you ask me, NO.
Have you tried Lynx and RME PCIe interfaces. They are mostly between $500 and $1500. Do you have any ideas how good the converters are?
They are awesome. Again, the new ones have a lot under the hood, that 90% of users will never use.
How can I hook up a Focusrite ISA One to the BabyFace Pro?
XLR or TRS
Great video. Do you prefer the sound of the RME over the Apollo?
it is 50/50 RME is more clean with less noise, compared to cheapest UA like twin x. But it is too steril sounding, while UA is more musical, rounded sound. It depends from the taste.
That’s very interesting. So you think the Apollo sounds warmer/rounder, even without the plug-ins?
@@jr-zo9gi yeees
Haha, got it. Thank you, for your content and your kindness. Keep up the great work!
Actually I think I do agree with you, except I wonder about the higher end Focusrites - do you have a view on those.
Thanks for your question! In the past the Foucusrite was so so . The mix/headphones knob was super bad , the headphone amp was week, but it was good for the price. To be honest I never got the chace to try their new models. What i dont like about them even without testing, is that their high end models are thunderbolt. Well, this is bad idea.Not every computer had this. So the interface must be usb3 and to work from windows 7 and up.
@@electronicbox6990 Thanks yes, that’s an interesting point. Didn’t know the higher end ones were thunderbolt. I will keep that in mind.
Sir my right side channel of output is not working.i have checked by the every way but it's not working.i have baby face pro.using from last 3 years
I never had such problem.Swap the monitors and cables. If you are speaking for the headphones and you using mono channel for the mic for example then you have to check input tab and also panning
@@electronicbox6990 I have checked everything cable, speakers....But it's not working..... Please give other suggestion.should I get it repaired.headphone output is and all inputs are working properly.
@@Dhwanistudio If on all inputs and outputs it gives you only one channel, might be the interface problem, or the headphones, if only on mic this is the problem, then you need to check settings on the mixer.This proves my point how bad the mixer panel was made.
Hello so far how are you feeling with the fs version?,im buying a babyface used in 900 but I don’t know if is worth to buy the new fs for 600 more
for me they are the same
actually if you are not completely new to pro audio, I feel totalmix is not that complicated. rme is basically the best you can do, unless your budget goes at least to three times the price
I guess we need to hear recordings from each interface to determine what is the difference
yep, if someone funded this no roblem, but i had the chance to use them one after another, so you can trust people. Especially those ones who dont have sponsors
I have my first RME interface, the Babyface Pro FS, currently on its way here and I’m increasingly concerned about this gigantic learning curve I hear about. But when I watch a little of RME’s setup video for Babyface and Total Mix, it looks elegant and very deep - with quite a few unique/proprietary design conventions - but it doesn’t look too cryptic at first glance. Very beautiful/inviting looking interface too,
I try to look at the software interface for my iConnectivity MIDI 4++ interface and my brain melts at the ugly, jumbled, cryptically named pin matrix. I haven’t even used it much yet, since it makes my brain hurt too much trying to get things like iPad audio bi-directional streaming to work with desktop.
after mine and other comments rme have changed default routing in the mixer. Now all goes to headphones and main, so thats why it feels easier.
@@electronicbox6990 good to hear, thanks. So it also defaults to the XLR monitor outs? That’ll be a relief to get up and running quick. Mine arrives tomorrow.
@@electronicbox6990 I see what you mean now about the interface being quite a head scratcher at first -not as easy to intuit my way around as I imagined.
But once I stumbled on the menu/Function/Matrix view - routing audio became a breeze. Matrix view uses similar style routing that many audio interfaces use (like MOTU)
Can set levels there for each patch point, FX routing, everything from that easy to read screen.
@@electronicbox6990 are you now more happy with RME ?
@@pascalmerschaudio With the design, knobs, and control panel definately NO, but the stable operation, no cracks and hickups and also the best montiring AMP , RME is still not bad. From other hand, UA has great usability, my favourite sounding emulations and plugins, and great mixer panel, but Windows users cant use thunderbolt cards, they simply dont work, not ASIO but WDM driver is the worst in the world. The card also become very , very hot to the touch. And their plugins while they are great, they are super expensive.
wow, an honest and intelligent review for once... there are way too many shills on youtube, and too many affiliate links.... thanks for the video, it's helpful
Thanks for the comment! I prefer to be on the sharp side in my reviews but to be honest. This is the only way manufacturers to listen at some point or another.
Great review, very honest and clear, it helped me out to make a decision.
Just a comment about the RME Babyface Pro FS headphones outputs. They are different impedance because they are for different types of headphones (high /low impedance) they’re not necessarily supposed to be used at the same time (although it’s possible) but if you wanna do it you should keep in mind that you will need to connect the right type of headphones in the right output. Another comment for whoever is considering the RME Babyface is, is it really important if the software mixer looks pretty or not? It seems like RME company focuses more on design, sound quality and performance than something else, so if you’re looking for that there you go, but instead if you’re looking for fancy against quality that’s another thing. Thanks!
I know that they are 2 impedance, but the question is WHY? And the answer is because it is an ugly and counter-intuitive design. And the second answer is because their architecture does not allows 2 faders, so they put 2 options for high and low impedance. I don't consider their software design as nice at all. But to be honest RME level knob for monitors is my favorite. Some cards need to turn and turn forever. For this RME is spot on.As always i am completely honest and what i found nice i share it.
@@nikinik7503 No one can argue about your opinion on the layout of their controls or mixing interface in their software, but to me the headphone situation is obvious. It is designed to push one set of headphones. End of story. It is a convenience and nothing else that there is a high impedance and low impedance output. Why is the high impedance output 1/4"? Because it is more typical of high impedance headphones. Why is the low impedance output 1/8"? Because cheap low impedance headphones are usually 1/8". This isn't difficult.
@@drheck period right.
How does the output sound quality of the RME compare with that of the UAD Apollo interfaces?
Well, they are close and at the same time a bit different. RME is a bit clinical, while UA is more colored and lets say warm. But to have the best converters in UA you have to buy X16. Unfortunately is super expensive.
I am currently using Audient id14 have tested 3 interfaces for 1 month now I am the last one to order the rme babyface. Tomorrow will be tested. Between the 3 interfaces Motu M4 SSL 2 and Audient ID14, the Audient id14 had the best end sound. Do you really think that I get an even better sound with the rme? Or should I buy an apollo twin after all? I work through windows
The sound quality is subjective. One person like one other one, another interface. The choice is yours
Audient have better mic preamp than babyface pro. I am speaking about ID44. I never try Antelope, but in the past they had driver problems.
How are you liking it compared to the iD14? I have the same one at the moment.
@@ACDevastation which is the best audient for vocal pls reply
Audient,the best interfaces now.
Don't cost a fortune and sound fantastic.
Hi just purchased babyface pro fs my issue is I don’t know how turn the unit off please help me
See, how is possible the number 1 sound card in the world, don't have a power on off switch. So the easiest option is to set PCusb to turn off after shut down the PC. Thats your only option. But if you are using the PC and you don't need the sound card, it will work anyway
One thing i dont like at rme - dsp reverb work. Try to use any reverb type except space and you will hear a lot of noise. just set effect volume about 0 or more to understand what i'm talking about.
About topic. Audiointerface is a core. I don't know companies with such good drivers as rme. Just think about multiclient operations. when you have daw, you tube and foobar for example, and try to switch between them. At this point most of audiointerfaces will need in windows output configuration sample rate lock, some of them will crackling e.t.c So..we have just one choice here for windows users
what about Antelope Audio ?
or Audient ? I try both and they are good
I `m also a RME user but the Mic pre amp are not that good !
the converters I try :
Pro tools HD 192 converter are suck
lynx Aurora 16 great Clock
Apogee good Clock
Antelope Audio HD great sounding converter
UAD Apollo good plug ins but leak of bass
The Audient good for Home Studio and it have a good Mic pre amp
And sorry for my bad English ✋
hi, I just bought it, but I can only hear the audio on one side with a guitar in the 3/4 input with logic pro... but when playing music for example from iTunes, does it work correctly? obviously I set everything up correctly. what am I doing wrong? thanks in advance for a reply.
you have to turn pan knob. guitar is mono
I own both, Babyface Pro and the Apollo Twin USB, I find Totalmix easier to use than the one on the AU. Besides Totalmix which I use since 2011 is muuuch more stable than UA one
On my "fantastic" windows I had one million issues with the driver of RME not been recognised and I had to unplug and plug over and over again many times.So furstrating.
Incredible video
Thank you !
Audio interfaces driver stability is everything. Still using the gen 1 rme baby-face blue. Couldn't be more happier. You're right sub 300 dollar interfaces are crap. Really lack audio definition. Frustrating driver issues and crashing like crazy when doing a few tracks with plugins. I'd rather use cellphone microphones than that extra 15% those interfaces provide.
the best is SSL+2 i had this and never driver issues. But i stepped up my game to RME and i love it, and also Totalmix, its right the design could more cooler but it works very fine, if you ever worked with digital mixer you understand the totalmix view
Very interesting and direct review. I’ve been considering transitioning from UA arrow to rme baby face fs pro because rme doesn’t force me to have my interface plugged in to work on a project on the go. Also, the separate mic/line inputs in the rme. And the midi, optical functionality.
Finally, the price of the plugins. UA preamps sound uninspiring without a unison preamp model set up, and the UA plugins are too expensive.
The headphone amp doesn’t seem like much of a concern to me. If I want multiple people to listen, I use speakers.
The total mix.... well tbh I’m not sure about this one. I didn’t find the UA consul all that intuitive. I’ve been using daws for 20 years (ableton live mostly) and getting used to the UA consoles took a while.
Audient interfaces are not crap. Their Preamps are top notch. The form factor is great and the converters are transparent
I hate unintuitive software.
No RME for me.
The babyface pro fs costs 1,300 in Australia.
Ouch.
On m1 mac I have problems installing. any help
I dont have knoledge with mac platform. Nowdays windows is a lot better choice from price/ capability point if view.
I own a Babyface pro and I don't use it anymore, for all the reasons mentioned in this review. Sad
Thanks for sharing that! RME all day long sends fake comments, but soon or later users face the same issues. Not a bad card, I state that at least 3 times, just need to listen customer more.
Would you recommend upgrading to babyface pro fs from the baby face pro?
Great question, and the simple answer is NO. Everything is the same. While RME says that they have lower jitter, basically better quality, actually it sounds the same.Dont waste your money for the same card.
@@electronicbox6990 thanks for the feedback, would there be any other upgrade if I'm recording only from outputs of a digital piano? It sounds metallic and harsh
@@corolex I am a voice over artist, not a musician and I didn't test that. And here is the other stupid thing of RME. It not say if your input is mic or line. On Apogee for example you can clearly choose input to be mic, guitar or line level. Your distortion comes because you are feeding mic input. In this case your have to use about 30 db pad and then it will work.
What do you think of the Apollo Solo. Esp the recording quality.
All Appolo are similar. If you buy UA X16 then there will be a difference. Converters are top
@@electronicbox6990 Apollo not good? My other option is the Audient ID14.
@@electronicbox6990 What do you think of Apogee Duet 3.
@@accentontheoff Audient is great, but at least buy ID44.
@@electronicbox6990 Thanks for the reply but isn’t the ID44 the same as the ID14 with more IOs.
Jeg er veldig enig i at RME Babyface pro er veldig unintuitive. Har brukt mange timer på å forstå deres total mixer. Når det er sagt så er jeg veldig imponert over kvaliteten på lyden. Den virker å være solid bygget og etuiet er praktisk når man må frakte den rundt. Jeg angrer overhodet ikke over kjøpet av denne.
At least learn English.
@@electronicbox6990 I know how to speak english. What is your point?
How does the RME compare to the Sound Devices MixPre 3 II?
I have both, and i think the RME is better, but on stage MIXpre3 is a killer recorder.
@@electronicbox6990 Do you mean the RME has better sound or are there other characteristics?
This was very welcome information you did a great job keeping it straight to the facts, but I think you're going to be costing me a lot of money. I need four more really good preamps and I didn't look at the baby face because it only has two and then I thought I might buy like a tascam something or other with four pres, or the mackie, but you persuaded me that I should save my pennies and just get an rme with four mic inputs. And I have to say that Babyface pro is just ugly and with the breakout cable and everything just cables all over the place. Anyway thanks so much for a great video, I hope you and yours are safe and well take care
Bigger RME like UFX are great exept for the user experience. Also Audient has very good option with expansion capabilities and not so much expensive
@@electronicbox6990 thanks for the helpful reply, much appreciated. So let me ask one more: do you know if Audient has plans for an iD44 MK II? I'd get that in a heartbeat, but I just can't bring myself to buy the first generation, seems like older tech (and I find the unit ugly in appearance, but that's not an issue) but maybe I'm wrong, good sound is good sound, like what Dave Pensado says: what matters is only what's coming out of the speakers, I'd use Behringer if it sounded good, I don't have gear envy, well not too much! Maybe I should just go for a deal on a iD44 MK 1. As I understand it, those sound great, have digital I/O, inserts direct to converters bypassing the preamps, and 4 very usable mic pres w lots of routing options, and beautiful DI inputs. Actually, as I'm writing this, I'm kinda talking myself into it! Take care
@@WordsMusicbyPaulLawrence I personaly like the Audient ID44 preamps more than RME, but The RME has better headphone output. Audient is week. So it is always some kind of compromise. It is up to you.
@@electronicbox6990 thank you so much for your reply, I agree, and I'm now looking at a used id44 which will save me money, and do the one thing I need this to do beautiful conversion without a hassle w routing, inserts and four completely flat preamps that I can color the way I want once captured. With the money I'll save I'm going to buy a dedicated headphone amp. Since you're being so helpful, any thoughts on a great headphone amp? Maybe with two outputs? Fyi, There's a big sale on antelope audio hardware now, they've got their synergy core system with a bunch of plugins and the DSP for like $600. I gather those converters sound good but it looks like a nightmare getting locked into their ecosystem, the copy protection, and apparently inscrutable mix software. (I had their solo mic for about 10 minutes and was not impressed! I ended up going with the slate system) Sweetwater stopped carrying them with all the quality control problems they had but apparently they're doing better with that, but it just looks like it's too much to plow through. Take care
I never used Antelope, even if they are made here in Bulgaria. I heard many good and many bad points. Their sound is very good and converters too. As you mentioned the eco system is the thing that drives crazy many users and also often driver compatibility issues. (but again those are rumors that other users share, NOT my own experience)
Wow, I dunno why RUclips took its sweet time to recommend me this video. I was like nodding my head off.
The device not having a power switch tells it all. They are like Apple.
They are damn good at what they do and understands the ins and outs a lot more than their competitors, but in the end, it's their way or the highway.
How do you feel about the Audient iD44?
ID 44 is great. Its mic preamps are better than RME. The interface is a LOT friendlier. The ONLY issue I have was that the volume knob needs a lot of turns until the desired volume is reached. I noted that to Audient support, but they don't listen. On RME volume knob is more what you will feel as normal. ID 44 + Audien NERO is a great combo!
Amazing video, i need help with total Mix :(
Grettings from Lima-Perú
That's what I am talking about. Thanks for the question!. I had explained million times to RME that their control panel while it is very fast, is super counterintuitive. But I have to say that if you learn it, then will not be great, still will drive you crazy, but will be a lot easy. The most important is the routing. Basically, if you need to hear something on your headphones, you have click on the headphone channel down below in the mixer just to select it, and then raise the fader from where you want to signal to come.RME old videos for me was much better than the latest ones. So use this link, and watch it as a series: ruclips.net/video/3CirlPcokfQ/видео.html
Hola David, que ayuda necesitas? Yo tengo la Baby face pro fs y uso el total mixer
@@danielvelaaranda8490 Hola Daniel muchas gracias , por ejemplo me gustaría hacer streamings y hay muchas cosas que no entiendo del Total Mix, me he podido grabar super bien en Reaper, pero no se como configurar para hacer una trasmisión en vivo por facebook por ejemplo.
what would you recomend the apollo twin x or the rme pro fs
I prefer apollo all the way.At least it comes with plugins preamps, that costs at least double that price. The only problem is thunderbolt but if you have mac,thats pk.
@@electronicbox6990 I would say only get appollo if you do thunderbolt because if you do usb its not great and rme will better
I do not agree with you. Rme mixer makes sense for anybody who knows a bit about routing. Try to rout an external effect on apollo. I wish you luck. Anyway good review. By the way I have a rme fireface 800 that I used for 20 years. Still works and still sounds great. Take care
How can I get my monitors to work? I can’t hear a thing when I plug them up
That's what I am talking about. Thanks for the comment! You can address that to all that still think that RME mixer is nice.
@@electronicbox6990 Lol help!
@@noizrunitupii3791 Watch RME tutorials
They are crucial. Thats why I had mention that control panel is super bad. If it needs to read the manual is not good.
RME must wake up and understand that now is 2020, and if there is a month learning curve the product is no good.
Select output 1/2 so it is highlighted with fader up to unity, then select your input and raise the fader.
good on point well said. thanks. I wonder why RME people never listen about this. I wish they do and make better of their already good product, and.. perhaps also lowered the prices a bit too hehe.. because like it's being said in the video, it's true that many if not all of RME (especially the Babyface) users are home studio musicians with small budget
I agree. Total Mix is horrible and has a very steep learning curve. Not intuitive at all. Sure, reading the Bible-thick manual would probably answer most questions, but it really is unnecessarily complicated. Sound wise, it's perfect though
Thanks for the support! RME trols are attacking all day long.I am glad that there are other similar oppinions like mine!
Can I add a PreAmp to the baby face pro? And will it add more to the vocals?
Yes you can
@@electronicbox6990 what would you recommend?
@@fade8358 I don't have experience with many preamps, but Great River and Warm Audio are great ones ,clones to Neve preamp.I try them and they sound great.
@@electronicbox6990 thanks
is this 2020 version babyface?
It actually starts to sell end of last year I think.
Total mix is easy to use, select your output and adjust your mix…simple
Yep. Controversial at its best.
Total mix is a little bit more complicated than ua or apogee or audient (a lot more confusing later one). But it’s also a lot more flexible. And usually complexity and ease of use doesn’t go toe to toe. But it’s not that much complex so you need to finish Harvard and learn to operate shuttle to use total mix. That said the deep complexity of software is well justified.
One headphone output and one stereo output. This interface is for small bedroom studios and for travelling producers. You want 2 headphone outputs and more monitor outputs? Buy bigger one. Don’t see any problem here other than interface have not enough features specifically for you and your needs. In fact I like to have 2 headphone outputs dedicated to high and low impedance headphones. Very convenient for people who use both and don’t want to compromise audio quality.
Power button yes. Would be nice.
You hate it? I love mine.
It seems like you are complaining about the control interface simply because of how complicated it is. A simpler interface would have to be much less powerful. At least they are all OSC compatible so you can make an interface with just the functionality and layouts you need.
Everybody can be as neardy as he wants, and dig as deeply as he wants.Again, I share MY OWN experience. If you have your own, make a channel, your point of view and that's it. As I see it is not only me that thinks that this is really the case for many users.
@@electronicbox6990 an optional simplified UI would be nice. I plan on making one for my use case. The fact that this is possible to do is awesome as many manufacturers rely on proprietary control implementations. I just might start a youtube chanmel if I can figure out some of the logistics...
I agree 100m%
Thanks!
Just change the mixer to DAW mode and it works like every other companies mixer
Аз си купих преди около година едната от RME Babyface Pro която този човек продаде. Просто съм изумен от кристалния звук, който излиза от картата. Не бих я заменил!
try SS2....its amazing...
I switched from Apogee Symphony to Baby Face Pro FS.
Can we have a little review on this? ^^
@@jub.3436 Bought the symphony mk1 years back which now has no aftermarket value and is also mac compatible only. RME is both pc/mac compatible with lasting value, small/efficient/portable and best sounding interface under $1k margin imo.
APOGEE SYMPHONY DESKTOP 👌🏾👌🏾🔥🚀
@@nucentury08 that's cool. I just don't like apogee products anymore
@@nucentury08 Do you still have the symphony? And do you use PC or Mac?
Totalmix is easy... is the reason i like rme
Audient iD44, really great sound, software mixer and works with PC ;)
Absolutely 👍
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Yes
What the fuck are you talking about , to get the signal to the headphones 20 minutes ??
buy one unit, make reset, and send it to friends sound makers. See the result and have fun by filming the furstration. Good luck!