Brother Paul is a revert and alhumdulillah he is someone who studies and reads books of knowledge a lot. I think this is one of those incidents where he may have erred but I'm willing to think that he's open to discussion on this as he does seem genuine in his desire to seek the truth. May Allah guide us all ameen
Thats not the point of this video , the point of this video is whether ibn taymiyyah believed otherwise ,and the answer is no. Seems like this john hoover guy and people like him created doubts in yasir qadhis mind. Should never listen to these western academics on islam. Brother paul has tendancy to site books by western accademics a little too much , should be careful with what he sites
As Salamu Alejkum brother. Who marked that book as highly disputed? Which scholars? I see Yasir qadhi is maybe also using it as his reference to say IT believed hellfire is not eternal. And how come ibnul qayyim never mentioned that book? It did exist in his time or no? Lol
If Shaykhul Islam didn’t state his own view, then how come scholars like Imam as San’aani and Shaykh al Albani refuted him on this issue and denounced some his quotes in this book? Can you explain this as it’s really confused me.
I think that Shaykh Al-Albani pointed out the opinion of Ibn ul-qayyim that there are two hellfires, one for the disbelievers and one for the sinners of the Muslims and that the one that will be destroyed is the latter. I believe Al-Albani attributes this view also to Ibn Taymiyyah and it is acceptable.
@@abuzaidchnl Sh al Albani said this in his intro to Imam San’aani’s refutation: "So how could Ibn Taymiyyah say: "If he willed eternal punishment then there's no mercy to be found therein at all" As if mercy according to him will not be just unless it includes the kuffar, the punished ones the Tagheen?! Isn't this the clearest proof of ibn Taymiyyah's mistake? And the mistake of he who followed to push this as correct in this dangerous issue!? May Allah have mercy on them both!” and al Albani said: Ibn al-Qayyim has a second opinion according to which Hellfire will never end. Ibn Taymiyya has a book refuting those who say Jannah and Jahannam will cease to exist. At that time [20 years ago] I thought that Ibn Taymiyyah shared this second opinion of Ibn al-Qayyim. The author al-San`ani, with what he has quoted from Ibn al-Qayyim, explains that the above mentioned refutation [written by Ibn Taymiyya] is not against those who say Hellfire will end, but it is against the jahmis who say Paradise will cease to exist and he [Ibn Taymiyya] states that Hell will cease to exist. Moreover, he does not state only this, but states also that the people of Hell will enter paradises with rivers flowing under them after Hell ceases to exist." This is what I was referring to. Did Shaykh al Albani and Imam San’aani misread Shaykhul Islam’s work?
Shaykh Al-Albani didn’t attribute the work to Ibn Taymiyyah, he’s probably referring to the few pages he found of the manuscript. As for As-San’ani, he’s refuting the position and I don’t see any reference to Ibn Taymiyyah, he’s most likely referring to Ibn Qayyim. What it comes down to is that Ibn Taymiyyah clearly outlined that there is a consensus, so how can he contradict elsewhere? How can he have a position agreeing with the Jahmiyyah when he mentioned it being incorrect and a jahmi position? What’s apparent is that this whole issue revolves around Ibn Qayyim and not Ibn Taymiyyah. He discusses the position in detail in multiple works but eventually takes the position of Ahlu Sunnah.
Of course Allah knows best but this is from the matters about which we have CLEAR CUT Ayahs, and that's why there is ijmah that Hellfire will exist forever. Allah سبحانه وتعالى Himself has made it crystal clear to us. So there's not a shadow of doubt to say that we don't know for sure about this.
Not everyone, but only those who died while being Muslim, as shown in clear, authentic ahadeeth. As for those who died upon shirk, they will stay there forever, as shown in the Quran multiple times. May Allah protect us all from it. Ameen.
Brother Paul is a revert and alhumdulillah he is someone who studies and reads books of knowledge a lot. I think this is one of those incidents where he may have erred but I'm willing to think that he's open to discussion on this as he does seem genuine in his desire to seek the truth. May Allah guide us all ameen
He was saying he might interview Yasir Qadhi soon. I hope he reconsiders!
@@abuzaidchnl he has interviewed many deviants such as Jonathon brown and David Jalajel who have claimed we may have come from hominids by procreation
Jazakum Allahu Khairan. Allah swt says: "Khalideenafiha abada"...
Doesn't matter what anyone says after Allah himself says its never ending
Thats not the point of this video , the point of this video is whether ibn taymiyyah believed otherwise ,and the answer is no. Seems like this john hoover guy and people like him created doubts in yasir qadhis mind. Should never listen to these western academics on islam. Brother paul has tendancy to site books by western accademics a little too much , should be careful with what he sites
Uncle Paul needs to rely on Islamic sources rather than orientalist khabeeths
As Salamu Alejkum brother. Who marked that book as highly disputed? Which scholars?
I see Yasir qadhi is maybe also using it as his reference to say IT believed hellfire is not eternal.
And how come ibnul qayyim never mentioned that book? It did exist in his time or no? Lol
Jon hoover was my professor in university of Nottingham for one module. Never turned up and just watched the lectures online😂.
Lucky you 😂😂😂
جزاك الله خيرا.
وجزاك الله خيرا
Thank you bro
if someone calls jahm bin safwan a scho,ar he is the biggest meme
If Shaykhul Islam didn’t state his own view, then how come scholars like Imam as San’aani and Shaykh al Albani refuted him on this issue and denounced some his quotes in this book? Can you explain this as it’s really confused me.
I think that Shaykh Al-Albani pointed out the opinion of Ibn ul-qayyim that there are two hellfires, one for the disbelievers and one for the sinners of the Muslims and that the one that will be destroyed is the latter. I believe Al-Albani attributes this view also to Ibn Taymiyyah and it is acceptable.
@@abuzaidchnl Sh al Albani said this in his intro to Imam San’aani’s refutation:
"So how could Ibn Taymiyyah say:
"If he willed eternal punishment then there's no mercy to be found therein at all"
As if mercy according to him will not be just unless it includes the kuffar, the punished ones the Tagheen?! Isn't this the clearest proof of ibn Taymiyyah's mistake? And the mistake of he who followed to push this as correct in this dangerous issue!? May Allah have mercy on them both!”
and al Albani said:
Ibn al-Qayyim has a second opinion according to which Hellfire will never end. Ibn Taymiyya has a book refuting those who say Jannah and Jahannam will cease to exist. At that time [20 years ago] I thought that Ibn Taymiyyah shared this second opinion of Ibn al-Qayyim. The author al-San`ani, with what he has quoted from Ibn al-Qayyim, explains that the above mentioned refutation [written by Ibn Taymiyya] is not against those who say Hellfire will end, but it is against the jahmis who say Paradise will cease to exist and he [Ibn Taymiyya] states that Hell will cease to exist. Moreover, he does not state only this, but states also that the people of Hell will enter paradises with rivers flowing under them after Hell ceases to exist."
This is what I was referring to. Did Shaykh al Albani and Imam San’aani misread Shaykhul Islam’s work?
Shaykh Al-Albani didn’t attribute the work to Ibn Taymiyyah, he’s probably referring to the few pages he found of the manuscript. As for As-San’ani, he’s refuting the position and I don’t see any reference to Ibn Taymiyyah, he’s most likely referring to Ibn Qayyim.
What it comes down to is that Ibn Taymiyyah clearly outlined that there is a consensus, so how can he contradict elsewhere? How can he have a position agreeing with the Jahmiyyah when he mentioned it being incorrect and a jahmi position?
What’s apparent is that this whole issue revolves around Ibn Qayyim and not Ibn Taymiyyah. He discusses the position in detail in multiple works but eventually takes the position of Ahlu Sunnah.
@@abuzaidchnlSo did Ibn Al Qayyim RahimahAllah hold the view that hellfire will end?
جزاك الله خير يا اخي الكريم. سبحان الله العظيم.
Wise to say 'Allah hu alam' - Allah knows best
Of course Allah knows best but this is from the matters about which we have CLEAR CUT Ayahs, and that's why there is ijmah that Hellfire will exist forever.
Allah سبحانه وتعالى Himself has made it crystal clear to us.
So there's not a shadow of doubt to say that we don't know for sure about this.
You should filter out more of Paul's channel, he invites deviants on a regular basis and serves it to the ignorant masses without any restraint
Yeah it's sad. I'll be doing more inshAllah.
@@abuzaidchnl may Allah grant you success and more time.
@@IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh Amin. May Allah guide him to effectiveness as well.
Who are those deviants?
@@IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh
May ALLAH grant you both success.
And may ALLAH reward both of you for refuting the deviants.
What about Ibn Qayyim? Did he believe it
I need a little more help regarding this topic
I’ll be making another video on it soon inshAllah
Who's depicted in the thumbnail?
That was his thumbnail when I laid the video. I think it’s Paul the Christian guy or something
It’s Thomas Aquinas, the Catholic philosopher.
Hellfire won't end but some people will be taken out..i have to do more research to see if EVERYONE will one day be removed from hell
Not everyone, but only those who died while being Muslim, as shown in clear, authentic ahadeeth. As for those who died upon shirk, they will stay there forever, as shown in the Quran multiple times. May Allah protect us all from it. Ameen.
@@servantofthemostmerciful7985 yes, people need to stop using their brains over the Qur'an and sunnah
The Disbelievers will remain in the hellfire forever this is the Aqeedah of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamah