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Trick Tip: Toeside Predrifts
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
- Kyle Chin explains important aspects of the toeside predrift: lines, stance/body position, weight distribution, slide initiation/modulation, hookup, and avoiding common mistakes.
Please note that sliding style often varies from rider to rider. This is not the only way to execute a toeside predrift, but it is the most common (and easiest to learn) form.
Setup: Comet Voodoo (chopped), Paris 180s, 80a 4 Presidents
Filmed: Adam Colton
Edited: Kyle Chin
For tips on heelside predrifts, check out "Pre Active Pre Drifter":
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This advice is actually really helpful since it is actually clear and simple, and the my tell you the easiest way to do it
We're happy that the gnarledge was spread so easily! Check our other trick tips if you are interested in expanding your trick bag!
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wish i had a hill like that
This is by far the best explanation of a toeside predrift ever. Watching this over and over again is how I learnt the correct technique. I wish the loaded crew would start doing more of them again.
Some of the foot placement and weight distribution tips were extremely helpful thanks
wear a helmet guys had a really bad high side practising this and landed flat on my head. thank god i was wearing a helmet. nothing happened, tried again and nailed one
Love this instructor.
You wanna sucky sucky? ;)
@@thedarknight5714 shut the fuck up
This Is Probably The Best Explained Tip Ive Ever Watched
Awesome. It reminds me of a lesson I learned years ago flying a full-on military simulator of an F-111. You don't yank the controls - that'll just throw you into a spin. You have to use finesse - just a enough control force to get the job done. Not only is he teaching the correct technique, he's teaching you not to over-control the board and that's what makes his boarding so graceful. That's a fine point that's important in almost every activity I've ever tried.
This guy does the best instructional videos. Really breaks it down and helps you visualize.
@thetrueblahman I've found that it's easier to stay on top of your board and control the hookup when grabbing rail. But that's just me. I also like doing 1-handers, but I'll always grab rail if I'm racing or trying to be as precise as possible. - Kyle
Adam Colton filmed this!?! That's awesome!
Around 6:00 you can hear Adam say "how much" when kyle is talking about weight distribution haha
I love your videos, keep it up!
Excellent, thorough explanation of the body mechanics involved. I keep coming back to this for fine-tuning. Keep up the good work.
Adam colton is a pretty good cameraman! Very steady. Great vid. Gonna go out and try it and probably fall a lot.
Toes side drift was the first slide I learned. Good stuff!
You guys should do a heelside predrift it's so easy to understand and points out all the points that we need to know!!
They do! Check the FAQ's on the loaded website!
I feel like I'm the only longboarder who is more comfortable with toe-side slides (standups, glove down, pre-drifts, etc) than heel-side slides.
+Damon Watson I'm the same. It took me a day to learn a toe-side and, like a month to get comfortable with a heel-side
Same, I just love the feel of toesides but heelsides are so uncomfortable.
You must be a goofy cause i also feel the same.. Lol
Zacx It doesn't matter if you're goofy or regular lmao. Heelsides goofy are the same as heelsides regular, but switched around. Say theres a corner to your left and you are goofy.. That would be a toeside predrift, while regular ( im regular ) it yould be heelside. Same feels and all.
holy shit i thought i was the only one! i honestly hate heelsides, they feel so awkward. i've been trying to get sit downs but i feel so awkward that i don't think i'll ever get it, but whenever i do toesides, (which are known to be much more difficult) i find them much easier.
awesome in depth video. being able to do this, having learned it over a year ago it's crazy. I don't think about releasing pressure, my position anymore. It's amazing to think I do all of this instinctively now.
Love those instructive videos. Obviously Kyle is not just a madman but has put a lot of thought in his art. Wish we had quiet roads to practice, our back-yard is in the Alps, steep and full of traffic.
@Downhill644 When you set up for the slide, get your toes on or over the rail and concentrate on keeping that foot planted firmly on the griptape throughout the drift. Remember that all the action comes from your back foot, so just keep your front foot locked onto the grip. Grabbing rail will probably help stabilize the front of your board, as well; if you grab close to your heel, your hand can help prevent your foot from migrating.
I learned that if I ever need to learn something new, I should probably look for a vid with Kyle Chin in it.
kyles explanations are simply the best :)
@foreheadiumal Just enough to allow you to drift easily without high-siding. The less weight you put on your hand, the more weight there will be on the wheels, allowing them to burn off more speed and hook up more easily when you're done with the predrift.
@HillsHelp Make sure to have your feet set up so that your weight is on your uphill wheels (on your toeside rail). When you dig in with your heels, your downhill wheels will lock up, and that's what causes a high-side.
Hey, Kyle, you create very clear and exemplified tutorial every time!!!! Your previous front-side-powerside tutorial is also given great good and bad (which I should not do) examples. And Adam did great job on taking and editing those!!! Thank you!
p.s. Sorry for the bud ;) @6:45 ha-ha! lol
I love these Tricktips on mountains, everything is so quite and this camera is awesome too! :D
@mailadress222 Check out "Pre Active Pre Drifter" for help on heelside predrifts!
This is awesome advice. Kyle, thanks for taking the time to show all this info! You are my hero. I need all the help i can get, i'm having a hard time learning to do a PROPER predrift. Thanks again man.
finally learned it. took me 3hrs straight. guess Im a fast learner XD feels so good when you pull it out just right😂😆
Great job buddy! These can be a bit scary for people to learn, but props for the record time!
i did everything you said and i always high side. i still havnt managed to stay on my board even with those new sliding wheels that work way better than what was apparently carving wheels
Captain Spook
Make sure u go fast enough if u think ur wheels grip up early... if not then try not putting as much weight on the back foot.
I believe you solved my problem with the control of coming back to ride on. I always overturned cause I was leaning to far away. I'll try to think of your advise next time! Best, Biggi from Luxembourg / Europe! :D
cool explanation :) probably first video where weight ratio is somewhat explained, i get it it is very individual thing but still for me gave much more clear idea how and when. Thanks
Kyle Chin, you're my hero!
finnally tried these today after finding a steep toeside corner. took me like 8 tries with several highsides and wash outs but i finnally got it!!
I love you Kyle Chin, I love you with the passion of a thousand burning suns.
Great video. I am slowly becoming more of an agreesive downhill rider and I really needed to get this slide down.
Thank you so much. its seems like I can't find anything on toeside predrifts. So this was extremely helpful.
Hey Kyle & Adam, thanks for putting these vids up, its the only way I'm learning :)
Gotta Love Highsiders... Happened to me once on new 4prezzes and grippy tarmac. That is the most unpredictable hookup ever.
back when kyle looked like puberty itself
kyle. you are a serious guru. i feel like i'm watching a master jedi. *goes and practice*
@battistellaschmitt a helmet is a piece of plastic with fom padding which fits over your head accordingly to size to pretect your head from injuries.
5:57
Oh god that was creepy. I thought someone was behind me whispering into my ear.
Please make more videos, this was perfectly explained. Thanks.
Thsnx bro great explanation great terminology visuals timing you hooked me up thank you so much bro your the shit
aaah adam and kyle THANK YOU this helped soooo much
love how detailed the explanation is, very helpful thanks!
@dchin490 It's a Comet Voodoo Original if you want to look online for it. He made the wheel base smaller on his.
I want kyle chin to follow me around everywhere I do any kind of sliding or DH and walk me through everything and teach me all the things I'm not doing right
yaaay! thank you kyle! once again, you and adam are my heros.
Great video... it would be great if you could do a video dedicated to heelside predrifts. Pre-active is not bad, but this is much better.
Cheers.
Great video, simple and explained very well.
Thanks for the video
Awesome tutorial, Kyle! Im having a bit of trouble with keeping my shoulders square with the apex, probably because im not grabbing rail though. I'll try grabbing rail next time i try to do a predrift.
awesome advice man thank you Ihave got my toeside crisp but ive always had an issue with keeping my weight up , I just fall my wrist cant hold me up (226lbs).
Kyle Chin is way too cool. He makes me proud to be a Bruin.
Very good video, thanks for taking the time!!
WHOA! I HAVE BEEN WEARING THOSE EXACT SAME SHOES FOR LIKE 4 OR 5 YEARS!
Awesome technical advice! Really well broken down! Cheers
Very helpful! I have a hill right next to my house but the corner is flat (no longer downhill) and it feels harder to slide around. Is that generally true? Or is it just me
This is awesome! Just what i need! Is there something similar for the heelside slide? If not, please make a trick tip for the heelside predrift/slide as well! For me, the heelside is a lot more difficult....
5:57 "HOW MUCH" lool
This is such a thorough guide i love it!
@nathanthe5 The deck has been chopped (cut down) and redrilled to have a 28" wheelbase.
I love that Kyle sounds like an approaching airplane in the beginning of the vid.
Thanks this helped me a lot with predrifts
hahaha. 5:57. adam whispers "how much" and kyle gets caught off guard and runs out of breath
@MrSaveatreerideareed
I pressed 8, Kyle showed me a secret trick.
+LoadedNewsletter i succeeded my first ones today, i didnt really do it like you described. i started a good carving, grabbed my board with one hand and pulled hard while my other hand on the ground. so the issue i had is everytime the back started sliding, the board suddenly gained a lot of angle but i kept the same trajectory. so i ended being ejected a few times... any idea how i can prevent that?
I'm old (37) and over 230 lbs... but I'm addicted to downhill. I haven't learned any slides yet though and idk what the best wheels are for big heavy guys like me to learn slides?
Sounds like you want a slidey yet durable wheel to help you progress into mastering your sliding technique.
We would suggest something like the Orangatang Orange Cages 80a! They're large size of 73mm let's them hit high speed no problem, while they're stone ground finish and rounded edges let you slide with ease! Poured in the insanely durable Peachy Thane formula, they should last you several weeks as you dial in your slides!
For more info, find them here: loadedboards.com/114-24.html
I love going 30-40 mph, but I s there a wheel that will let a heavy guy slide at only 5-10 mph? Or do you need to practice slides going 20+mph?
@@Justinbowling1 I don't know if it is to late to answer, but I learned sliding at low speed. I wouldn't suggest that tho because if you go faster it will be easier to break traction
How are you able tp keep your front foot completly flat on the board? Im standing on my toes when i try it.
@HExtab12 they drill a new set of holes to mount the back truck on :) since the board has had its back chopped off some of the holes (or all the holes) are gone
Great tips guys very informative! looking forward for more!
kyle chine, you seen like a really nice guy, and you have awesome sliding gloves.
alright im hoping for a quick response as im actually in a race tomorrow that requires a toeside predrift.
When im practicing at full speed, i can pull them off confidently and cleanly, but i have trouble bringing that back in without shedding too much speed.
so what i mean is that i always hold the slide for too long and enter the corner with next to no speed at all.
Thanks a lot.
just try to let the pressure off ur back foot and it should tuck back in...i have trouble with em alot too...but i learned it a diffrent way then he taught..i can do em with my foot on the center of the board instead of the side rail and i dont grab my board...idk if thats still a predrift but it gets me around fast corners...lol
U guys are awesome! Thx for revealing ur secrets to the rest of us, I know I appreciate it. What r u boys shooting with? Canon 7D?
@dutchmenred
To grab rail is to grab the side of your bord, like Kyle does with his left hand when he slides.
awesome vid, thanks kyle and adam
Hi dude, very good your tip. Which wheel and bushings are you using for this slide?
Hey Kyle...huge fan, today i messed my shit up by falling backwards over the board. This vid explains heaps, im just not sure how much speed i need.
Just learned how to do these, aww yeah! Its kinda weird to kick it out at first, but practice makes perfect.
what kind of hardware is kyle rocking on his board? looks reall nice for topmoubnts
This is really useful. Thanks man.
Kyle Chin is a Boss.
the trucks on that board are so dope
@LongboardMax Yeah right, bro -- that's not nearly hardcore enough. It will most likely be dubbed the DESTRUCTIFIER.
its a little bit harder tho..but yes you can...if you want to slide try the original freeride with bear 852's and 86a stims....my setup is a landyachtz switch 41,bear 852's, and abec 11 freerides...they are both awsome
Wonderful tutorial! Full of info, the editing of the vid is made so you see an example after every piece of info, the sound is clear (unlike most longboard tutorials on RUclips), and you didn't forget safety :D
Thanks! Added to favorites :)
You have more tutorials that you can like me here maybe? Like not just downhill stuff, but Cruising tricks and curving tricks too? ^_^
This is the only video of Kyle Chin that I can take him seriously in, cause he has long hair in all the others..
this is what i lookin for! thanks bro.
@loadedlongboardlover I think its the same spot where "Let Go" was filmed, too.
that is how im normally dressed when i go longboarding. bball shorts, tshirt and puck gloves. however also similar to you i have quite a bit of road rash. i know im going to start wearing pads.
very good video but I idk why I somehow end up more of drifting around and in to the corner rather then actually predrifting should I initiate earlier ? or what Idk how to fix this
Yes, if that is what is happening to you, then you need to start drifting earlier.
An earlier drift will slow you down more before you approach the apex of the corner, allowing you to grip up again and shoot through the fastest line and within you lane!
thank you Kyle Chin
What's longboard drifting? From watching this video, it seems like it's basically when you kick out your back wheels to help you go through corners. Is that basically what it is?
@yeeeeahbuddyy Any editing program can go slow mo you want a camera that shoots above 60fps for basic slow mo. A more expensive program is twixtor which is a plugin for video editing software such as "Adobe After effects" and "Sony Vegas Pro"
@VorpalBob Dude, the Loaded boards at the moment aren't made for speed. Their speed board is being proto-typed.
"practice to stay on top of the board" during predrift.. that is the advice I was looking for. It sounds logical but is not. I think that learning this technique staying on top of the board it's the best way to improve the ride. Being one single thing with the board.
haha sorry to hear that, I live in salt lake city, utah. we got a bunch of really sick hills over here, they are fun but dangerous as hell!!!!
hahaha 5:55 !!! Kyle: "remember to put most of your weight on your front foot, for.." Adam "how much?" *whisper* LOL!!!!!!
I don't think I have seen one but you guys should make a 360 slide tut. heelside 180 to switch toeside and vv.