Same with Alien, It was much more frightening on VHS, the bluray looks nice but you can see everything too clearly which lessens the impact of that fear of the unknown, which is what really scares people because people get to use their own imagination. I remember a story about 3 members of the same family who went to see Alien in the cinema when it was first released, and upon returning home they were describing the film to one of their younger children, the kid asked them to draw the Alien, and each one of them drew something different.
The mono is better. On the recently released 4K, they finally included it in lossless audio. That disc also features an f/x heavy Dolby Atmos mix, but everyone who's listened say the mono is still better. Also the music was re-recorded. Composer Brad Fiedel lost the original tracks and had to re-record the entire score for every stereo mix of the film. I think he did a great job because they sound identical. That wasn't a "Thank You" to Harlan Ellison at the end. Ellison sued James Cameron saying he stole his idea from a story he'd written. Cameron didn't want to get into a drawn out legal battle so they included that acknowledgment on later releases of the film. Ellison had a bad rep for doing that to many people in Hollywood whether it was justified or not.
watching and hearing it on old crt TVs was a superb experience, despite the lack of definition of sound or picture, I don't know why, but there is something magical and more captivating....
The original mono track is the best. And they added the superior mono track to the new 4K. I cant wait. The 45 longslide is supposed to feel like a hand cannon. NOT a freaking squeaky toy. If you want to hear a far better remix, watch Terminator Re-Sound
The gunshot difference @1:57 was so noticeable. I remember watching if for the first time on DVD and I was immediately thinking 'What the hell?' No idea why they changed it so drastically. Maybe it's more realistic to the type of handgun used?
some of gun shots in the blu ray are better but not all, i love the classic shotgun sound & pistol with the red sight. it's really good the 4k has both options.
The "dirty Harry" magnum sound effect for the 45 long slide and uzi 9mm always sounds better than the remix audio😎🎥 I only just heared last week on RUclips the 4k release has an option for the original mono 👍🏼 I think I still have my UK vhs of the Terminator that was bought from Woolworths around 1988😂
If you are watching a PAL tape then naturally the blu ray will have more bass, this is because it is sped up to fit into the frame rate of PAL, doing so highers the sound pitch although some players allow you to post process and correct the pitch. I personally love the sound, there is nothing like 80's synth score on an analog tape. Although I do agree with the VHS having more oomph, gunfire and explosions sounds like thunder, there is like a howl and echo to it. I dunno about you, but I feel it should be standard to have the original audio as an option for home video and streaming.
I go back and forth on this one. So for reference, they use a lot of T2 sound in T1, in the remaster. So future war now contains t2 sounds that were never there during T1. The guns are a problem. Both the shotgun and uzi have been updated and just don't sound as good. The shotgun also squeaks which is weird in the newer version. However a lot of the other sound changes and the added bass etc I really like. Yes, even the clunk as the shotgun blasts strike the metal chest, this is consistant with how his metal sounds in t2.
@@VideoTasties I've had the DVD and blu ray which have the same 5.1 remastered mix for so long now that it's just how the film sounds to me. When I find clips of the VHS on RUclips it does make me sad they changed the guns but the rest of the mix is so good I don't really mind. Still, that squeaky shotgun is a problem. Just.. why does it squeak? the lighter shot is bad enough but the squeaking is unnecessary :)
You missed some great opportunities here... The first moment of Arnold's Operating System sound/POV chasing Sarah and Reese in the alley after Technoir there's a dramatic difference in the OS sound from the original Mono audio track to the 2001 5.1 remix. The original OS sound there sounds much more angry and evil and grabs your attention. When they remixed it they basically copied the new sound they created for the T-800 in T2 and put that in its place. Immediately they lost the whole effect, a subtle but important difference that made the original work for the different T-800 in T1. The T1 T-800 is the enemy, he is programmed "evil" and he sounds it in the original mix. In T2 the T-800 is programmed "good" and his cleaner tamer OS sound is a calmer and friendlier sounding computer, maybe even a major software upgrade. I would always assume the older T-800 from the first film was an earlier software version and noisier which translates to a more fitting "angry" sounding evil OS. I realize this is all interpretation - as is the entire Termovision POV. If it was a real thing, who actually knows what things would really look like to a Terminator, or better yet sound like?? It's all story-telling fun, but the conviction is there in the first one on the VHS with the original Mono track - the angrier sounding OS. I buy that one more when watching the movie seeing what Cameron intended to see and feel. The remix just removes the depth and wrecks the moment. I thought the Termovision moment at near the end when Terminator commandeers the trucker's semi-trailer, scans the dash and transmission and puts it in gear - there's a big difference in the OS sounds between versions and I like the flange effect in the original mono which really sells the fact that he has taken on so much damage by this point that even the OS is getting glitchy and noisier. Similar thing happens with some of the screeching spinning tires/wheels in the chase scenes between Sarah and Reese followed by Arnold in a police car. Some of the tire burning sounds better in the Mono track. Same with the huge semi-trailer when the truck driver hits Terminator and slams on the brakes. I liked the sound of the Future Terminator's Laser Gun much better in the Mono mix than the new laser sounds they added for the remix - totally lost the fear-factor in that scene from before. The sound of the laser gun in the old mix was a lot scarier. The new lasers are clean and sound like lasers - but they don't sound threatening. Another moment that always stands out and really ruined the remix for me is when Reese strikes the T-800 endoskeleton repeatedly with a metal pole to the head in the factory, just before he blows Terminator in half, the original sound of the hits really feels like metal against metal and it reverberates like metal in a factory too. There's also this melodic effect within the sound effects there that seems to harmonize with the music notes at each hit and its bliss. When they remixed this part they totally lost everything - it just sounds like junk clanging against junk and there's no mating between the music and the new sound effects, it just blows - literally. I'll never forget as a kid rewinding and playing back that moment of hits so many times because of how the sound and music meshed so well and created a chilling vibe - where you just knew this was gonna be an "oh sh---" moment once Terminator, pissed, looks back at him and body-slaps him down to the ground. With the new sound mix it just doesn't work the same way. I really miss some of what Fiedel did with the score in the mono mix - like at the opening credits, the knife sliding across the pan effect is totally absent in the new mix, but its there in the original - and it gives insight into the killing machine tone. There's also a number of reverberating builds in the music mix that get very intense and put the viewer on edge that got sort of "washed away or washed out" when they did the remix. There's a beautiful build at the very end when Sarah is crawling towards the activation press and you see the remaining half of the Terminator with one good arm pull himself up slowly onto the raised platform and just barely fit his head through - the music peaks at this moment in an eerie suspenseful way that sounds as if there's just no stopping this thing. It's got a great sound in the original and there's a lot missing from the music there in the remix - as if someone turned off some of the music tracks, and it no longer works as well. Truly a disappointment when the 2001 remix happened and subsequent media releases nixed the mono track.If given the opportunity I would love to sit down and find all of the right moments to blend in and blend out some of the new mix with the original mono and perhaps enhance and pan the original mono into a pseudo-stereo/surround mix that real diehard fans would want to hear.
The lasers at the beginning are definitely different, they're actually from T2 if you listen closely and compare them. I guess for the DVD/blu ray of T1 they were trying to get it to match better with T2. Now the gun shots on the VHS are correct, that is the 1984 mono and the blu ray is incorrect. The tanker truck explosion sound on the blu ray is basically the grenade launcher explosion you heard in T2, so once again they used stock sounds from T2 for the 5.1 mix. I think the original mono sound for the tanker explosion sounds a lot better and more unique to the film.
I preferred most of the changes from the 2001 5.1 Remix (especially the Infiltrator's cannon, the rifles, the policemen's revolvers, explosions, crashes, projectile impacts and sound mixing). I would use the same revolver sound effects from the police station for all of the revolvers in the film; restore the original .45 Longslide, Uzi and shotgun sound effects (while fixing the silent .45 gunshot in Tech Noir and fixing the mixed up SPAS 12 gunshots in the police station). I've seen clips on RUclips of the police station shootout where the Terminator's footsteps are missing. I haven't noticed that before, but I'd make sure that isn't an issue, as well.
I want the mono track on blu ray. I got the definitive edtion and doesnt have the mono audio track. The sounds are classics, especially the handgun sounds.
Ive never understood the argument about the mono, the 5.1 sounds SO much better, especially with most of the guns. I genuinely think the nostalgia of the original audio was a shock and the lack of inclusion of it after the 2001 DVD left many fans sour. The Uzi sounds realistic and grounds the action compared to the original, the pistols sound unique and evil instead of like some distorted and generic stock gun sound effect, same with the shotgun actually, and overall the sound has room to breath, because of course, having six channels makes a big difference to just one. I'm so excited to hear the Dolby Atmos on my new 4K of the Terminator, and maybe I'll change my mind hearing the mono on it as well (which is nice that they included it for the authentic classic experience), but I just know the 5.1 and especially the Dolby Atmos will CRUSH the mono.
I prefer the newer 'future war' laser sound effects that were updated to match those in its T2 sequel. However, when it comes to the regular weapons, I prefer the original sound effects. Its definitely jarring to hear the. 45 longslide without the iconic 'Dirty Harry' magnum sound effect, replaced with some stupid muffled 'silencer' sound instead - wtf
The original mono is better. Those gunfire and explosion sound effects were in common use at the time the film was made. Back in the 80s, I'd hear them in all sorts of TV shows and films, so they sounded 'right' to a viewer: that's simply what 1980s movie guns sounded like. They're as reflective of the era as the music and the costumes. On a sonic level, the new sound effects are no different from George Lucas's CGI additions to the original Star Wars: they're anachronistic and just don't belong. So glad the 4K has the mono on it!
Changing the sound effects in this movie was as egregious to me as George Lucas adding in that shitty CGI alien singer that looked like a men in black deleted scene.
Many Mono soundtracks are never held over for Blu-Ray. There's never an option, because studios spend more time using the more advanced technology like Atmos and Vision to achieve a fresh approach to audio. There way too many films from the past that have suffered because the original audio Mono soundtrack has been ignored completely. Until recently, I didn't know that The French Connection had it's Mono audio soundtrack restored on Blu-Ray in the US only. Studios should offer up both Mono and Dolby Vision or Atmos on films processed in Mono. Laserdisc produced films at times with Mono audio, but now it's all about processing films with new audio mixes which aren't always beneficial. VHS often had Mono and stereo enhancement, it wasn't until the late 1980s, early 90s that Digital processing came into being, plus Dolby Surround became the next level up with audio enhancements to films, coupled with THX.
@VideoTasties No, I just think studios are too involved with upgrading sound to newer technologies. Their not interested in the older Mono tracks on films. They view it as pointless and outdated. With 4K releases, they believe that Dolby Atmos and Vision are the better choices to apply when releasing older films.Who wants the original audio track reinstated.
@@dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984 They don't realize, nor do they care, how much they will actually ruin a film like "The Terminator" by adding altered sound. It was fine the way it was. Plus, it leaves the newer generation, and people who have never seen this film before, completely ignorant. What a way to ruin the legacy.
Show this video to all the RUclips first-time reactors who saw this film for the first time so they can watch it again. If they only saw the altered sound version, they have still yet to see the original Terminator. Send this message also to the first time reactors who PLAN to watch this film for the first time.
Fortunately, the 4K release supposedly has the original mono track. I agree. It’s very important for film preservation to include the original sound and look of a movie. When they update movies without specifying they’ve done so, we get further and further away from the original presentation.
Terminator e' stato masterizzato sul VHS con la traccia audio originale,questo fa del VHS la versione migliore e originale,le versioni dvd e blu ray hanno la traccia modificata e multicanale,idem la traccia video,c'e un piccolo spezzone all'inizio del film presente nel VHS e non nel dvd e blu ray,quindi non dico che il film non va bene,ma che la versione dvd e blu ray e' ben lontana dal master originale,il VHS invece e' fedele
Alot of these sounds were also in the dvd (the one i have, which is one of the 1st special editions) i hated the sound efftect they used for the pistol in the remasters
Does the newly released 4k release have the original VHS gun sounds?... If not, then it is truly disappointing, and I won't be purchasing it... I believe there might be a fan edit of the film with the original VHS sounds applied, although I might be mistaken. If it does, then that's the version I will try to obtain somehow.. thanks for the video
It looks and sounds scarier on VHS. Your mind fills in the gaps and it draws you in more. Blu-ray is superior quality, but VHS is superior experience.
Well said
Funny cause I feel the same for older video games. They just draw you in more.
Same with Alien, It was much more frightening on VHS, the bluray looks nice but you can see everything too clearly which lessens the impact of that fear of the unknown, which is what really scares people because people get to use their own imagination. I remember a story about 3 members of the same family who went to see Alien in the cinema when it was first released, and upon returning home they were describing the film to one of their younger children, the kid asked them to draw the Alien, and each one of them drew something different.
dont let them run at the same time for christ
Thought the exact same. How are people supposed to distinguish them from each other.
Good point!!
The gun shots definitely sound better on VHS!
@@BACKTRACKCINEMA13 certainly are
I think you’ve watched Collative Learning.
@@RichieW90210 I don't that one
The good news is the 4K release has the mono intact with the classic effects!
I can't tell the difference since you have both audios playing at the same time.
@@chadwichterman7572 there's a 1 second delay so you get the sounds close together. I tried playing scenes 1 after another but it didn't work
The dvd also has the original mono track included along with revised 5.1. Also the new 4K release has the original mono included.
I want to know what they drugged Cameron with to give us the original mono
The mono is better. On the recently released 4K, they finally included it in lossless audio. That disc also features an f/x heavy Dolby Atmos mix, but everyone who's listened say the mono is still better.
Also the music was re-recorded. Composer Brad Fiedel lost the original tracks and had to re-record the entire score for every stereo mix of the film. I think he did a great job because they sound identical.
That wasn't a "Thank You" to Harlan Ellison at the end. Ellison sued James Cameron saying he stole his idea from a story he'd written. Cameron didn't want to get into a drawn out legal battle so they included that acknowledgment on later releases of the film. Ellison had a bad rep for doing that to many people in Hollywood whether it was justified or not.
Cheers, thanks for watching
In the new version Why does the.45 longslide with laser sighting sound like it has a silencer? The original sound is WAY better
It is, they other one sounds muffled
The original gun shots just sound so much more powerful in my opinion, sometimes they can be too much tampering & remastering on movies Gareth.
Thanks Carlos, I agree
Fun fact oj simpson was originally going to play the Terminator
watching and hearing it on old crt TVs was a superb experience, despite the lack of definition of sound or picture, I don't know why, but there is something magical and more captivating....
Very true
I'm glad I still have my VHS copy
That's great
The original mono track is the best. And they added the superior mono track to the new 4K. I cant wait.
The 45 longslide is supposed to feel like a hand cannon. NOT a freaking squeaky toy.
If you want to hear a far better remix, watch Terminator Re-Sound
It is shocking to hear the new sounds
Can confirm that the laserdisc copy I own has the mono sound.
Thanks 👍
Why make his gun sound like a silencer, when it isn't?
I thught it sounded surpressed too
The gunshot difference @1:57 was so noticeable. I remember watching if for the first time on DVD and I was immediately thinking 'What the hell?'
No idea why they changed it so drastically. Maybe it's more realistic to the type of handgun used?
The original gunshots sound better even if not realistic
The handgun the terminator uses is the sound of magnum revolver some of the changes are noticeable in the DVD version all it really is remastering
It does make him sound like dirty Harry
some of gun shots in the blu ray are better but not all, i love the classic shotgun sound & pistol with the red sight. it's really good the 4k has both options.
I am glad the 4K included them
The tunnel scene with the pipe bombs is the best example.
Original for me all the way.
That's one scene that did sound off
The "dirty Harry" magnum sound effect for the 45 long slide and uzi 9mm always sounds better than the remix audio😎🎥 I only just heared last week on RUclips the 4k release has an option for the original mono 👍🏼 I think I still have my UK vhs of the Terminator that was bought from Woolworths around 1988😂
Yes it does
If you are watching a PAL tape then naturally the blu ray will have more bass, this is because it is sped up to fit into the frame rate of PAL, doing so highers the sound pitch although some players allow you to post process and correct the pitch. I personally love the sound, there is nothing like 80's synth score on an analog tape.
Although I do agree with the VHS having more oomph, gunfire and explosions sounds like thunder, there is like a howl and echo to it. I dunno about you, but I feel it should be standard to have the original audio as an option for home video and streaming.
Yeah a mono soundtrack isn't going to take up much space
I go back and forth on this one. So for reference, they use a lot of T2 sound in T1, in the remaster. So future war now contains t2 sounds that were never there during T1. The guns are a problem. Both the shotgun and uzi have been updated and just don't sound as good. The shotgun also squeaks which is weird in the newer version. However a lot of the other sound changes and the added bass etc I really like. Yes, even the clunk as the shotgun blasts strike the metal chest, this is consistant with how his metal sounds in t2.
I am torn, I never noticed the difference till I made the video but now when I watch the bluray I won't be able not to notice
@@VideoTasties I've had the DVD and blu ray which have the same 5.1 remastered mix for so long now that it's just how the film sounds to me. When I find clips of the VHS on RUclips it does make me sad they changed the guns but the rest of the mix is so good I don't really mind. Still, that squeaky shotgun is a problem. Just.. why does it squeak? the lighter shot is bad enough but the squeaking is unnecessary :)
You've missed out the motorcycle sound
Apparently there is loads I missed out
miss the vhs version
I am lucky to have the same version I watched originally
You missed some great opportunities here...
The first moment of Arnold's Operating System sound/POV chasing Sarah and Reese in the alley after Technoir there's a dramatic difference in the OS sound from the original Mono audio track to the 2001 5.1 remix. The original OS sound there sounds much more angry and evil and grabs your attention. When they remixed it they basically copied the new sound they created for the T-800 in T2 and put that in its place. Immediately they lost the whole effect, a subtle but important difference that made the original work for the different T-800 in T1. The T1 T-800 is the enemy, he is programmed "evil" and he sounds it in the original mix. In T2 the T-800 is programmed "good" and his cleaner tamer OS sound is a calmer and friendlier sounding computer, maybe even a major software upgrade. I would always assume the older T-800 from the first film was an earlier software version and noisier which translates to a more fitting "angry" sounding evil OS. I realize this is all interpretation - as is the entire Termovision POV. If it was a real thing, who actually knows what things would really look like to a Terminator, or better yet sound like?? It's all story-telling fun, but the conviction is there in the first one on the VHS with the original Mono track - the angrier sounding OS. I buy that one more when watching the movie seeing what Cameron intended to see and feel. The remix just removes the depth and wrecks the moment. I thought the Termovision moment at near the end when Terminator commandeers the trucker's semi-trailer, scans the dash and transmission and puts it in gear - there's a big difference in the OS sounds between versions and I like the flange effect in the original mono which really sells the fact that he has taken on so much damage by this point that even the OS is getting glitchy and noisier.
Similar thing happens with some of the screeching spinning tires/wheels in the chase scenes between Sarah and Reese followed by Arnold in a police car. Some of the tire burning sounds better in the Mono track. Same with the huge semi-trailer when the truck driver hits Terminator and slams on the brakes. I liked the sound of the Future Terminator's Laser Gun much better in the Mono mix than the new laser sounds they added for the remix - totally lost the fear-factor in that scene from before. The sound of the laser gun in the old mix was a lot scarier. The new lasers are clean and sound like lasers - but they don't sound threatening.
Another moment that always stands out and really ruined the remix for me is when Reese strikes the T-800 endoskeleton repeatedly with a metal pole to the head in the factory, just before he blows Terminator in half, the original sound of the hits really feels like metal against metal and it reverberates like metal in a factory too. There's also this melodic effect within the sound effects there that seems to harmonize with the music notes at each hit and its bliss. When they remixed this part they totally lost everything - it just sounds like junk clanging against junk and there's no mating between the music and the new sound effects, it just blows - literally. I'll never forget as a kid rewinding and playing back that moment of hits so many times because of how the sound and music meshed so well and created a chilling vibe - where you just knew this was gonna be an "oh sh---" moment once Terminator, pissed, looks back at him and body-slaps him down to the ground. With the new sound mix it just doesn't work the same way.
I really miss some of what Fiedel did with the score in the mono mix - like at the opening credits, the knife sliding across the pan effect is totally absent in the new mix, but its there in the original - and it gives insight into the killing machine tone. There's also a number of reverberating builds in the music mix that get very intense and put the viewer on edge that got sort of "washed away or washed out" when they did the remix. There's a beautiful build at the very end when Sarah is crawling towards the activation press and you see the remaining half of the Terminator with one good arm pull himself up slowly onto the raised platform and just barely fit his head through - the music peaks at this moment in an eerie suspenseful way that sounds as if there's just no stopping this thing. It's got a great sound in the original and there's a lot missing from the music there in the remix - as if someone turned off some of the music tracks, and it no longer works as well.
Truly a disappointment when the 2001 remix happened and subsequent media releases nixed the mono track.If given the opportunity I would love to sit down and find all of the right moments to blend in and blend out some of the new mix with the original mono and perhaps enhance and pan the original mono into a pseudo-stereo/surround mix that real diehard fans would want to hear.
Might do a more detailed video next year, thanks
The lasers at the beginning are definitely different, they're actually from T2 if you listen closely and compare them. I guess for the DVD/blu ray of T1 they were trying to get it to match better with T2. Now the gun shots on the VHS are correct, that is the 1984 mono and the blu ray is incorrect. The tanker truck explosion sound on the blu ray is basically the grenade launcher explosion you heard in T2, so once again they used stock sounds from T2 for the 5.1 mix. I think the original mono sound for the tanker explosion sounds a lot better and more unique to the film.
Thanks
And its also on DVD as well
Thanks 👍
@@VideoTasties you're welcome matey
It's preference- if you want updated sound effects and cleaner visuals go with Blu Ray. If you want OG quality, go with VHS.
With the new 4K it has the mono track apparently
@@VideoTasties It does, it sounds amazing on the 4K. Maybe a little too good because I had to turn it way down.
Those dumbshits in the studio should've never created an option for a preference to begin with.
The film was fine the way it was!!!!
@@mattb9664 and that's why I LOVE the options on the new 4K disc
I preferred most of the changes from the 2001 5.1 Remix (especially the Infiltrator's cannon, the rifles, the policemen's revolvers, explosions, crashes, projectile impacts and sound mixing).
I would use the same revolver sound effects from the police station for all of the revolvers in the film; restore the original .45 Longslide, Uzi and shotgun sound effects (while fixing the silent .45 gunshot in Tech Noir and fixing the mixed up SPAS 12 gunshots in the police station).
I've seen clips on RUclips of the police station shootout where the Terminator's footsteps are missing. I haven't noticed that before, but I'd make sure that isn't an issue, as well.
Thanks, sounds like most of the audio has changes according to other comments
Could you just put the VHS and Blu-ray versions separately? During the Future War scenes i could hardly notice the difference
@@smithwesson1896 I tried that but it didn't work having them almost side by side work for most of the sounds
@VideoTasties Will you compare the sounds on the 4K version?
@smithwesson1896 as far as I know the 4k has both as options
I want the mono track on blu ray. I got the definitive edtion and doesnt have the mono audio track. The sounds are classics, especially the handgun sounds.
Yeah only the new 4k has the mono track
Ive never understood the argument about the mono, the 5.1 sounds SO much better, especially with most of the guns. I genuinely think the nostalgia of the original audio was a shock and the lack of inclusion of it after the 2001 DVD left many fans sour. The Uzi sounds realistic and grounds the action compared to the original, the pistols sound unique and evil instead of like some distorted and generic stock gun sound effect, same with the shotgun actually, and overall the sound has room to breath, because of course, having six channels makes a big difference to just one. I'm so excited to hear the Dolby Atmos on my new 4K of the Terminator, and maybe I'll change my mind hearing the mono on it as well (which is nice that they included it for the authentic classic experience), but I just know the 5.1 and especially the Dolby Atmos will CRUSH the mono.
I never noticed the difference until I did this video
I prefer the newer 'future war' laser sound effects that were updated to match those in its T2 sequel.
However, when it comes to the regular weapons, I prefer the original sound effects.
Its definitely jarring to hear the. 45 longslide without the iconic 'Dirty Harry' magnum sound effect, replaced with some stupid muffled 'silencer' sound instead - wtf
I don't mind changing the lasers to sound like T2 but the gun sounds are unforgivable
That cool 📼 sound!
❤️
Is this Eddie Izzard?
maybe
The original mono is better. Those gunfire and explosion sound effects were in common use at the time the film was made. Back in the 80s, I'd hear them in all sorts of TV shows and films, so they sounded 'right' to a viewer: that's simply what 1980s movie guns sounded like. They're as reflective of the era as the music and the costumes. On a sonic level, the new sound effects are no different from George Lucas's CGI additions to the original Star Wars: they're anachronistic and just don't belong. So glad the 4K has the mono on it!
I am looking forward to it in 4K and in mono
Changing the sound effects in this movie was as egregious to me as George Lucas adding in that shitty CGI alien singer that looked like a men in black deleted scene.
That Jedi one might be the worst change ever
Mmmmmm CGI alien tonsils
Many Mono soundtracks are never held over for Blu-Ray. There's never an option, because studios spend more time using the more advanced technology like Atmos and Vision to achieve a fresh approach to audio. There way too many films from the past that have suffered because the original audio Mono soundtrack has been ignored completely. Until recently, I didn't know that The French Connection had it's Mono audio soundtrack restored on Blu-Ray in the US only. Studios should offer up both Mono and Dolby Vision or Atmos on films processed in Mono. Laserdisc produced films at times with Mono audio, but now it's all about processing films with new audio mixes which aren't always beneficial. VHS often had Mono and stereo enhancement, it wasn't until the late 1980s, early 90s that Digital processing came into being, plus Dolby Surround became the next level up with audio enhancements to films, coupled with THX.
I guess they assume the majority wont notice
@VideoTasties No, I just think studios are too involved with upgrading sound to newer technologies. Their not interested in the older Mono tracks on films. They view it as pointless and outdated. With 4K releases, they believe that Dolby Atmos and Vision are the better choices to apply when releasing older films.Who wants the original audio track reinstated.
Those asswipes in the studios should NEVER have done this in the first place.
@@VideoTasties That's how stupid they think we are.
@@dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984 They don't realize, nor do they care, how much they will actually ruin a film like "The Terminator" by adding altered sound.
It was fine the way it was.
Plus, it leaves the newer generation, and people who have never seen this film before, completely ignorant.
What a way to ruin the legacy.
All the work to change the sound effects, and the shotgun still has SMG sounds during the police station scene...
Was it cameron that made the changes, he must have signed off on it
I have no idea who's responsible. I just know it bothers me more than it should, haha.
The hard baller 1911 had a asthma attack ,it's not funny lol
Would be better if you showed the different versions separately. A bit difficult to differentiate.
I tried that but it didn't work, maybe I could have done it with a couple of seconds of each
@VideoTasties No worries mate. Very informative video I must say.❤️👍
@@rafficrashid867 Thanks
Your own audio doesn’t even come in evenly, like you keep turning your head away from the microphone
Just my piss poor way of talking
Show this video to all the RUclips first-time reactors who saw this film for the first time so they can watch it again.
If they only saw the altered sound version, they have still yet to see the original Terminator.
Send this message also to the first time reactors who PLAN to watch this film for the first time.
Fortunately, the 4K release supposedly has the original mono track. I agree. It’s very important for film preservation to include the original sound and look of a movie. When they update movies without specifying they’ve done so, we get further and further away from the original presentation.
On the VHS they just copied the Magnum 44 sound from Dirty Harry.
One of the best sounds ever
I think that VHS may have been the first video I ever bought. Hate the altered sound FX so much.
@@michaelmyers3709 I can see that now
Terminator e' stato masterizzato sul VHS con la traccia audio originale,questo fa del VHS la versione migliore e originale,le versioni dvd e blu ray hanno la traccia modificata e multicanale,idem la traccia video,c'e un piccolo spezzone all'inizio del film presente nel VHS e non nel dvd e blu ray,quindi non dico che il film non va bene,ma che la versione dvd e blu ray e' ben lontana dal master originale,il VHS invece e' fedele
Thanks
Alot of these sounds were also in the dvd (the one i have, which is one of the 1st special editions) i hated the sound efftect they used for the pistol in the remasters
Thanks I though the pre 2000's dvd's would be ok
Does the newly released 4k release have the original VHS gun sounds?... If not, then it is truly disappointing, and I won't be purchasing it... I believe there might be a fan edit of the film with the original VHS sounds applied, although I might be mistaken. If it does, then that's the version I will try to obtain somehow.. thanks for the video
I have heard the 4K has the mono track
The 4K has the mono track so it beats the previous blu ray releases in that regard.
the franco columbu terminator had a good sounding gun on vhs...blu sucks...also the love scene piano song sounds better...