Abandonment issues are tough... Everytime someone is showing slight signs of leaving anxiety is growing quicker than everything else. You start to see problems and mistakes in yourself and only in yourself. You'd love to fix everything in one moment but you can't. You see your past where everyone is leaving and you start to imagine the pain you'll go through once the people you let getting close go you leave. All of those things start to crash down within seconds, all at once. Breathing gets hard. You start to hyperventilate, sweating, maybe even throw up. I had it once watching a movie with my girlfriend at the time, I can't remember what the scene was, couldn't hear it. I crawled up in the bed. She hugged me tightly and I heard her voice "I'm here. You're safe. It's gonna be alright. I'm here. Breathe." She kissed me on my forehead. That's when I started hearing the music from the movie again. It was una mattina by ludovico einaudi.
Harvey and Donna were a package deal, both were loyal to each other and joined to the hip Donna leaving him caught him off-guard. You've known someone all your life and then something unforeseen happens that would hurt.
These are the moments where the show tells that "everybody is human and they can feel weak and vulnerable". Strength is not all about not asking help do it yourself behaviour. If you are clueless and lost, seek it and build your strength afterwards rather than putting ego first
No such thing as too dependent on each other. It's called not being able to function with your other half. Donna tried to move on but just couldn't. She belongs to Harvey.
@@opena1759I understand what you're saying, but I think Donna lost herself in this relationship. Her life revolved around Harvey. Rachel tells him in a discussion, "job is important to every person, but it's about having a life and you don't have one." She is focused on his problems, needs and emotions, she has abandoned her ideals and appropriated her goals, his interests come first. These are signs of emotional codependency. As far as Harvey is concerned, the addiction is given by his "need" for Donna, by the fact that he needs her to function.
They weren't, Donna kept messing up things and felt guilty, and when Harvey tried to save her and did, Donna was telling him that he wanted Louis to help her instead of him
I'm glad this show never took itself (especially after the first 2 seasons) too realistically or Harvey (senior/name partner in a biglaw firm) would be dealing with his anxiety in a pretty different way lol
Uh. What? No, no people go see therapists for anxiety. That's, quite often, how that works. They also take antidepressants too. Like, you know, Harvey did. What a weird thing to think isn't realistic.
Anxiety: general label Panic attacks: symptom of a lot of different disorders. Safely we can assume anxiety, but obviously we can't be sure as 1. We aren't psychologists and 2. They don't tell us a disorder.
I’m proud of Donna for leaving Harvey. He toyed with her feelings, and outright took her for granted, and he wasn’t even sorry. These kinds of men should never get a mate, they are selfish. They don’t know the meaning of love. They only know the meaning of possession.
EXCUSE ME? You have GOT to be joking. Donna is the one that toyed with Harvey’s feelings. Donna is the one that always took Harvey for granted, and most certainly Donna is the one that doesn’t understand the meaning of love, only possession. Why are you proud of toxic female characters like Donna? As a woman, she makes me ill.
Donna saying she’s not abandoning, she’s doing it for herself is literally her abandoning him lol. Yes she’s not in the wrong but putting herself first is abandoning him lol
Yup, and the way she went about it was pretty cold too. They've been through the ringer for years as a team and she just up and jumps into another lawyers office, much less someone he dislikes. Him being cross with the fact she's doing that to him is understandable. The fact she took the low road on the matter just compounded the animosity further.
Worst story arc of the entire show IMO. They stripped every character of their key qualities. Harvey's cool, calm, and collected nature in the face of pressure. Donna's loyalty and emotional intelligence, all of it. I understand humanizing characters but this just wasnt believable or enjoyable to watch unfold.
Looking back on the show, you really come to not like Donna much. She knew how much Harvey needed her and his past. Yet she abandons him on a whim and leaves him high and dry? Yeah I know he told her off but she should’ve seen WHERE that was coming from. It was just beyond selfish of her to leave him alone like that
She didn't abandon him. She gave him two weeks' notice and offered to help him find a secretary for him, but he kicked her out. And he didn't even ask her why she was leaving.
@@jessedellross3245 She offered him help and the friendship precisely because she cared about him. But he told her to empty her desk and leave. For 12 years, she put Harvey's best interests first. If she has to do something for her now, she isn't selfish
Damm, that paper towel throw went right in 1:59
Man called Kobe😂
You can see Jessica look to see if it actually went in too
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The abandonment issues was on full display here it was almost sad to see 😪
Abandonment issues are tough... Everytime someone is showing slight signs of leaving anxiety is growing quicker than everything else. You start to see problems and mistakes in yourself and only in yourself. You'd love to fix everything in one moment but you can't. You see your past where everyone is leaving and you start to imagine the pain you'll go through once the people you let getting close go you leave.
All of those things start to crash down within seconds, all at once. Breathing gets hard. You start to hyperventilate, sweating, maybe even throw up.
I had it once watching a movie with my girlfriend at the time, I can't remember what the scene was, couldn't hear it. I crawled up in the bed. She hugged me tightly and I heard her voice "I'm here. You're safe. It's gonna be alright. I'm here. Breathe." She kissed me on my forehead. That's when I started hearing the music from the movie again. It was una mattina by ludovico einaudi.
Underrated part of this clip but props to Mike for standing up to Harvey and protecting Rachael while calling him out on his bs
Harvey and Donna were a package deal, both were loyal to each other and joined to the hip Donna leaving him caught him off-guard. You've known someone all your life and then something unforeseen happens that would hurt.
These are the moments where the show tells that "everybody is human and they can feel weak and vulnerable". Strength is not all about not asking help do it yourself behaviour. If you are clueless and lost, seek it and build your strength afterwards rather than putting ego first
I liked Donna that she found the courage to leave Harvey. Their relationship became unhealthy. They were too dependent on each other.
No such thing as too dependent on each other. It's called not being able to function with your other half. Donna tried to move on but just couldn't. She belongs to Harvey.
@@opena1759I understand what you're saying, but I think Donna lost herself in this relationship. Her life revolved around Harvey. Rachel tells him in a discussion, "job is important to every person, but it's about having a life and you don't have one."
She is focused on his problems, needs and emotions, she has abandoned her ideals and appropriated her goals, his interests come first. These are signs of emotional codependency.
As far as Harvey is concerned, the addiction is given by his "need" for Donna, by the fact that he needs her to function.
She left him because he said he loved her, she said she loved him and she has her rule. So she went to work for Louis.
@ileea84 so in the end...they need and complete each other.
They weren't, Donna kept messing up things and felt guilty, and when Harvey tried to save her and did, Donna was telling him that he wanted Louis to help her instead of him
4:06 love that reaction and the mom and son got this done
I'm glad this show never took itself (especially after the first 2 seasons) too realistically or Harvey (senior/name partner in a biglaw firm) would be dealing with his anxiety in a pretty different way lol
what do you mean
@@Evifroureehrtdrugs or something worse, probably.
Uh. What?
No, no people go see therapists for anxiety. That's, quite often, how that works.
They also take antidepressants too. Like, you know, Harvey did.
What a weird thing to think isn't realistic.
@@KuroiRenge some people think wolf of wall street is every rich person
I can’t remember the last scene with Paula?
What a story line. The great Harvey Spector is nothing without a secretary😂😂
Not anxiety-panic attacks.
Pretty sure panic attacks derive from anxiety🤓
Anxiety: general label
Panic attacks: symptom of a lot of different disorders.
Safely we can assume anxiety, but obviously we can't be sure as 1. We aren't psychologists and 2. They don't tell us a disorder.
@@justanxious9447 Yeah like this thread is giving me anxiety 🤣🤣🤣
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Megan oh my... 😍😍
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I’m proud of Donna for leaving Harvey. He toyed with her feelings, and outright took her for granted, and he wasn’t even sorry. These kinds of men should never get a mate, they are selfish. They don’t know the meaning of love. They only know the meaning of possession.
How did he do that?
EXCUSE ME? You have GOT to be joking. Donna is the one that toyed with Harvey’s feelings. Donna is the one that always took Harvey for granted, and most certainly Donna is the one that doesn’t understand the meaning of love, only possession. Why are you proud of toxic female characters like Donna? As a woman, she makes me ill.
Donna saying she’s not abandoning, she’s doing it for herself is literally her abandoning him lol. Yes she’s not in the wrong but putting herself first is abandoning him lol
Yup, and the way she went about it was pretty cold too. They've been through the ringer for years as a team and she just up and jumps into another lawyers office, much less someone he dislikes.
Him being cross with the fact she's doing that to him is understandable. The fact she took the low road on the matter just compounded the animosity further.
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Worst story arc of the entire show IMO. They stripped every character of their key qualities. Harvey's cool, calm, and collected nature in the face of pressure. Donna's loyalty and emotional intelligence, all of it. I understand humanizing characters but this just wasnt believable or enjoyable to watch unfold.
You are wrong. Harvey was always dependent on Donna because she was there for him for 12 years! You think he won't get attached to her?
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Yeah you don't know how humans work
The emocional dependance was so strong that even Harvey did not notice until things were South
Looking back on the show, you really come to not like Donna much.
She knew how much Harvey needed her and his past. Yet she abandons him on a whim and leaves him high and dry? Yeah I know he told her off but she should’ve seen WHERE that was coming from.
It was just beyond selfish of her to leave him alone like that
She didn't abandon him. She gave him two weeks' notice and offered to help him find a secretary for him, but he kicked her out.
And he didn't even ask her why she was leaving.
I disagree. The series would have been so boring if everything was rainbows and unicorns.
@@mia989-ms5vo again she should’ve known where that was coming from. She didn’t care and just left him.
@@jessedellross3245 She offered him help and the friendship precisely because she cared about him. But he told her to empty her desk and leave.
For 12 years, she put Harvey's best interests first. If she has to do something for her now, she isn't
selfish
Sometimes you have to do it, even if your boss yells and slams the door....
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