Thanks for your videos mate. I’ve been seriously considering one lately and these videos are really selling it to me. I currently drive 13km to work and 13km back, and in Sydney traffic it’s a tonne a fuel a week. This bike seems to solve the problem. My current issue is convincing the real boss I’ll be safe enough riding one 😅 Thanks again - I enjoy your passion and enthusiasm for these bikes!
This really is a nice/simple tuning and makes a bit of a difference. You are not getting a 500cc bike with this, but you definitely get off the lights much faster than most cars. Next thing I'll try out is the (disabled) cruise control feature and adjust the power settings for the three switches, so the speed on flat terrain gets limited to 40, 65 and unrestricted kmh. That way I don't have to watch my speed in school zones and city traffic. Also, I think there is a setting to adjust the speedo - which is currently set to a value of 50. I hope I can actually set it to the correct value, so the speedo does report the correct speed (mine is showing about 8kmh too much, so, real speed is 60 when the speedo currently shows 68). Something that should be mentioned: you do not need to turn on the bike when connecting to the serial cable in order to program the BMS. It even works with the main switch disabled and only the battery in the bike. In fact, it does not work if the bike is on or unlocked. I also left the serial cable connected to the BMS and fed it through a hole in the glove compartment. This way I can make adjustments to the BMS without the need of demounting all the right hand side fairings.
Super helpful videos, I've just bought the programming cable. Is it possible to programme it to achieve a higher top speed with the expense of battery degradation?
I have another unrelated question for you 😁. I’ve started to get error 94 randomly. Nothing changes on the bike when it happens. I just see it on the clock. If i blip off the accelerator or stop/start the bike it goes away. Any ideas? Cheers!
@@thecapacitator8137 yeah. I managed to find that info, but as with everything else with this manual, you usually find the solution by looking for it somewhere else. Cheers anyway
@@thecapacitator8137 hi. I found out that from the connector (motorcycle side) pin labelled 1 was missing. I found it stuck inside the battery connector in its corresponding female connection. I can’t get in out. However the bike works as normal from what i can see. Do you happen to know what the diffent pins in the connector do? Thank you
Thanks. Not really noticed too much difference as I ride pretty cautiously most of the time. If I rode a bit harder it would definitely shorten the range.
Can you be more specific, how many amps do you think the motor can handle? What if I install this 190a 360 phase amp fardriver in the bike? Do you think the motor can handle it? How about the wires? How about the battery? What would turning up the start up motor phase to 16 or 18 do and why?
My original connector on the battery has small fins inside that have broken away. Are these necessary for a solid connection? Bike has been throwing errors and coming to a stop. Is it possible to put some replacement inside or do I need to buy a new connector for £50 only for it to break again? I have a spare battery so its not a major problem yet.
Hey man, great videos! Ive got my brand new Super Soco TC Max just a couple of days ago. When i turn it on, it wont go forward unless i squeeze and release the break once. Is this normal? Also - when i use the front breaks, it pulses - and i can hear a rythmic scraping sound while moving forward. Do you have any idea? Is it possible the disc is damaged/deformed? Im asking you since it seems you've got a lot of experience, and i cant find good answers online. Thanks!
Mine didn't come with the brake feature switched on. You can turn it off with a programming cable. They are available on my website. Link in the description. How many miles has your bike done? Brakes might still be bedding in.
I’ve just mirrors these settings on my TC Max (thanks for the cable!) Just wondering, on “acceleration”, I understand you are lowering the figure to deliver the power faster. Why stop at 400rpm - is there a point at which the benefit is lost?
Have just bought one after looking at your videos, along with lots of others. One question, when the battery remaining charge drops to a certain percentage does the power drop as well? I've seen the the Horwin CR6 when it gets to 19% the bike will not go over 30mph. Does the TC Max do the same, if so at what percentage? Thanks for the videos excellent stuff!
Thanks for the reply! I have been told it drops at 15% but I've not seen any review where this has been mentioned. Spicy110 on his review just said that he didn't notice any power drop at all but when it got to zero percent the bike just stopped! 19% seems very high on the Horwin! Thanks again.
I hope I won't be as low as 0%! The commute to work is 25miles along 30,40,50 and 60mph roads. The last 5miles is all 60mph may get away with 50mph. I may be in the last 10% by the time I get to work, with the Horwin CR6 that would be in the last 19% so limited to 30mph along a 60mph road wouldn't be very safe! Could always buy an updated battery with more capacity which should then leave me above 20% after 25miles
@@mrwiggy25 You should be okay. Just save a bit of energy where you can. Don't do any unnecessary overtakes or hard acceleration. If you do decide to buy a battery don't forget to use my affiliate link in the description! 🙏👍
Are you sure it brings the power sooner ? On the golden motor forum they say you have to put more to get more acceleration (i can send you the link), i am also trying to understand deceleration parameter but its obscure (only working with ebs auto ?) how to ajust to get less deceleration ?@@thecapacitator8137
Hey, maybe a silly question, but do you reckon it would be possible to disable the startup sound with the programming cable? If not, got any tips on that without messing up the hardware? Greatly appreciated and thanks for the great content!
No it's not possible to do with the programming cable. I'm afraid my only solution is to mess with the hardware. I prised open the alarm box with a blade then disconnected the speaker. You can always reconnect it later.
@@thecapacitator8137 cheers for the reply. Any idea if there's any other alarm systems out there compatible with this that have no influence on the boot-up, but keep the alarm going?
Ive just bought one of your cables. I’m having issues with error 90 over voltage at high speed after around 10 minutes of riding. I am a heavy rider. What settings would you advise changing to prevent this, whilst not effecting top speed too much. Thanks
Thanks for buying a cable. I've seen this problem before. Try reducing "average current" setting under "current parameter settings". The other bike I looked at with this problem was pulling 5 amps too much. Try reducing the number from 81 to 76.
i wonder if state of charge could have been a factor in performance as voltage drops, it's possible that the tuned settings might produce even more power at full charge
can you rebuild our Super Soco just like this if we get in contact with you? that would be cool, like a custom shop :) or is it possible to learn by you how to do it online? thanks!
I wonder.. how about changing rear "sprocket". probably custom work thing.. but these electrics have torque for days.. Obviously not for dyno output..😅
I think it would be easier to make a front pulley for it. I'm looking into it. Lower gearing for going off road or putting bigger tyres on without losing performance.
hello I saw in the comments of the previous video that the cable was compatible with the controller of the super soco CPX scooter. but not the software, have you found a solution? we are more and more to have CPX scooters... it would help so many people. thank you very much for everything. greetings from france
@@thecapacitator8137 the guy in the video says the connector is good, but he's still looking for CPX compatible software. thank you for your help if you manage to find the compatible software, I buy you the direct cable! I really need help because my scooter is stuck at 45 km / hour (28 miles) :( because it is considered a 50 cc, while it is exactly the same as the CPX equivalent to 125cc! I have an engine of 4000w and two batteries of 60v45h of 2.7 kWh for 45 klm/h, I am sad
sorry for my english, i hope i am understandable. I think I spotted the connector too on my scooter, because it is not direct on the controller like him on the tc max but on the other hand, in the trunk under the saddle, there is a small 6-pin connector that joins the controller the same 6 pin plug than the tc max! (I have the two controllers in my possession) because I tried to install a tc max controller on my CPX scooter, all the connectors match the scooter turns on but does not roll, it shows me 83 on my screen , i think it's a battery trouble code because on the CPX it's 60v and tc max 72v. Thank you again for all
I just noticed the difference with the CPX 45 scooter and the normal one (125cc) it's the controllers that change mine it's a VMO-30100-TBG-C000-R10 and the other is a VMO-30100 -TBG-C000-R20 4000w. I think it would be enough for me to put this controller to unleash my scooter, if it is impossible to modify my original controller with your cable, but it is priced at 1000 euros !!! WTF I don't have enough money. you have a solution for me my lord?
I have the bigger battery and it’s been good. Real capacity is probably a little less than stated but far better than stock. Real time monitoring with the bms is good as well as being able to check temperatures. For me it was definitely worth it
$500 battery would be far worse than original, properly less than half of the original capacity just enjoy the bike and take care of the original battery, if you can keep the thing alive for a decade you'll have much cheaper cells with higher density in the future
Mate, I like your video but you may need to hide your local area a bit more. I was very easy to track down your exact route. I hope that's not where you live. I used to live in Ripon myself by the way. Be cautious.
Im getting a cable... Just saving up pennies, living off grid trying to get solar set up done. Thanks to a channel I have been watching.😊
There's one here with your name on it!
Awesome... Will be in touch. ✌🏽❤
Subbed, it's totally fun to see you tweak and tune the bike. You should host forums so we can discuss specific settings
Thanks for your videos mate. I’ve been seriously considering one lately and these videos are really selling it to me.
I currently drive 13km to work and 13km back, and in Sydney traffic it’s a tonne a fuel a week. This bike seems to solve the problem.
My current issue is convincing the real boss I’ll be safe enough riding one 😅
Thanks again - I enjoy your passion and enthusiasm for these bikes!
Best channel for SC easy... Thanks a million
This really is a nice/simple tuning and makes a bit of a difference. You are not getting a 500cc bike with this, but you definitely get off the lights much faster than most cars.
Next thing I'll try out is the (disabled) cruise control feature and adjust the power settings for the three switches, so the speed on flat terrain gets limited to 40, 65 and unrestricted kmh. That way I don't have to watch my speed in school zones and city traffic.
Also, I think there is a setting to adjust the speedo - which is currently set to a value of 50. I hope I can actually set it to the correct value, so the speedo does report the correct speed (mine is showing about 8kmh too much, so, real speed is 60 when the speedo currently shows 68).
Something that should be mentioned: you do not need to turn on the bike when connecting to the serial cable in order to program the BMS. It even works with the main switch disabled and only the battery in the bike. In fact, it does not work if the bike is on or unlocked. I also left the serial cable connected to the BMS and fed it through a hole in the glove compartment. This way I can make adjustments to the BMS without the need of demounting all the right hand side fairings.
Great stuff! Thanks for reporting back. Let us know how you get on with cruise control.
Super helpful videos, I've just bought the programming cable.
Is it possible to programme it to achieve a higher top speed with the expense of battery degradation?
Hello, nice review... Can you tell me, for Super Soco TC Wanderer (2022) is there a programming cable and software? Thank you.
Not sure about the Wanderer, sorry.
Thank you once again. It’s great so see the changes being measured properly
Thanks. Sorry it took so long. I've been really busy making cables!
I have another unrelated question for you 😁. I’ve started to get error 94 randomly. Nothing changes on the bike when it happens. I just see it on the clock. If i blip off the accelerator or stop/start the bike it goes away. Any ideas? Cheers!
@@rodintoulouse3054 It says battery communication error in the manual. Check the connection to the battery.
@@thecapacitator8137 yeah. I managed to find that info, but as with everything else with this manual, you usually find the solution by looking for it somewhere else. Cheers anyway
@@thecapacitator8137 hi. I found out that from the connector (motorcycle side) pin labelled 1 was missing. I found it stuck inside the battery connector in its corresponding female connection. I can’t get in out. However the bike works as normal from what i can see. Do you happen to know what the diffent pins in the connector do? Thank you
Very informative, as usual. Do you have any insights on the effect of this tuning on effective range?
Thanks. Not really noticed too much difference as I ride pretty cautiously most of the time. If I rode a bit harder it would definitely shorten the range.
Got recommended this by Alan, nice vid, ride safe
Can you be more specific, how many amps do you think the motor can handle? What if I install this 190a 360 phase amp fardriver in the bike? Do you think the motor can handle it? How about the wires? How about the battery? What would turning up the start up motor phase to 16 or 18 do and why?
I think you would be pushing it a bit. It might work, for a while.
My original connector on the battery has small fins inside that have broken away. Are these necessary for a solid connection? Bike has been throwing errors and coming to a stop. Is it possible to put some replacement inside or do I need to buy a new connector for £50 only for it to break again? I have a spare battery so its not a major problem yet.
Yes I think it needs to receive the canbus messages on those pins.
Sorry I don't know a good way to fix it. Might be best to get a new connector.
Hey man, great videos! Ive got my brand new Super Soco TC Max just a couple of days ago. When i turn it on, it wont go forward unless i squeeze and release the break once. Is this normal?
Also - when i use the front breaks, it pulses - and i can hear a rythmic scraping sound while moving forward. Do you have any idea? Is it possible the disc is damaged/deformed? Im asking you since it seems you've got a lot of experience, and i cant find good answers online. Thanks!
Mine didn't come with the brake feature switched on. You can turn it off with a programming cable. They are available on my website. Link in the description.
How many miles has your bike done? Brakes might still be bedding in.
I’ve just mirrors these settings on my TC Max (thanks for the cable!) Just wondering, on “acceleration”, I understand you are lowering the figure to deliver the power faster. Why stop at 400rpm - is there a point at which the benefit is lost?
You could experiment. I was just being cautious.
Have just bought one after looking at your videos, along with lots of others.
One question, when the battery remaining charge drops to a certain percentage does the power drop as well?
I've seen the the Horwin CR6 when it gets to 19% the bike will not go over 30mph.
Does the TC Max do the same, if so at what percentage?
Thanks for the videos excellent stuff!
Hi, I haven't noticed the power drop but I've only ever taken it to around 15%.
Thanks for the reply!
I have been told it drops at 15% but I've not seen any review where this has been mentioned.
Spicy110 on his review just said that he didn't notice any power drop at all but when it got to zero percent the bike just stopped!
19% seems very high on the Horwin!
Thanks again.
@@mrwiggy25 It's much better for your battery if you keep it above 20%. The TC Max warranty is voided if you take it to 0%.
I hope I won't be as low as 0%!
The commute to work is 25miles along 30,40,50 and 60mph roads. The last 5miles is all 60mph may get away with 50mph.
I may be in the last 10% by the time I get to work, with the Horwin CR6 that would be in the last 19% so limited to 30mph along a 60mph road wouldn't be very safe! Could always buy an updated battery with more capacity which should then leave me above 20% after 25miles
@@mrwiggy25 You should be okay. Just save a bit of energy where you can. Don't do any unnecessary overtakes or hard acceleration.
If you do decide to buy a battery don't forget to use my affiliate link in the description! 🙏👍
Great video! One question because I'm curious: what does the "Acceleration" setting do? What happens when it gets decreased like that?
Brings in the power sooner
Are you sure it brings the power sooner ? On the golden motor forum they say you have to put more to get more acceleration (i can send you the link), i am also trying to understand deceleration parameter but its obscure (only working with ebs auto ?) how to ajust to get less deceleration ?@@thecapacitator8137
Hi! Any modifications done to Super Soco TS Street hunter?
Love what you are doing, Do you know how much Power you can get the standard controller to power the motor
It's limited to 100 amps
Hey, maybe a silly question, but do you reckon it would be possible to disable the startup sound with the programming cable? If not, got any tips on that without messing up the hardware? Greatly appreciated and thanks for the great content!
No it's not possible to do with the programming cable. I'm afraid my only solution is to mess with the hardware. I prised open the alarm box with a blade then disconnected the speaker. You can always reconnect it later.
@@thecapacitator8137 cheers for the reply. Any idea if there's any other alarm systems out there compatible with this that have no influence on the boot-up, but keep the alarm going?
Can you do a second battery for a TC Wanderer? Love the videos
Ive just bought one of your cables. I’m having issues with error 90 over voltage at high speed after around 10 minutes of riding. I am a heavy rider. What settings would you advise changing to prevent this, whilst not effecting top speed too much. Thanks
Thanks for buying a cable.
I've seen this problem before. Try reducing "average current" setting under "current parameter settings".
The other bike I looked at with this problem was pulling 5 amps too much. Try reducing the number from 81 to 76.
Would you be doing any Lexmoto cypher tuning?
Great video! Once I get my bike I might just get a cable 😊
No problem there's plenty here waiting for you!
i wonder if state of charge could have been a factor in performance as voltage drops, it's possible that the tuned settings might produce even more power at full charge
Yes the power will drop off as the battery depletes. 90A at 83V is 7.47kW, 90A at 70V is 6.3KW so over 1KW difference from full to flat.
Hello. Hope all is well. I was curious to know if the 2019 model , is tunable ? I'm limited to 52.5/55 mph. Oddly, I have a 7 pin battery
Are you in Canada? Mine only does around 55mph
@@thecapacitator8137 UK
Have you been able to improve the top speed in any way? It's my only gripe with my 2019 TC Max
Sorry not on your bike. The 2019 bike has a different controller. See my video "old vs new".
Hello everyone. Is it normal to hear a beep and the red light to flash when I connect the cable to the laptop? Thx a lot.
Could you possibly make a video on the battery packs a Super Soco TC model can be upgrading to?
Sorry I don't have a TC to play with.
Hello.
In the graph that you share, the differences are minimal between the 3 settings. Is it really worth It to take the risk ?
That's up to you to decide.
I'm curious about battery degradation, Would it be accelerated by tuning it out?
I am an eletric noob so not sure if thats a stupid question or not.
Shouldn't noticeably effect it with these settings.
I thought the software didn't work?
What programming software do you use?
Follow the link in the description
what are the best modifications on super soco tc in your oppinion? i need ideas and help😅
I'm not sure really. I like to keep mine fairly standard. I bought it to save money not spend it!😉
can you rebuild our Super Soco just like this if we get in contact with you? that would be cool, like a custom shop :) or is it possible to learn by you how to do it online? thanks!
Could do. Are you in the UK?
@@thecapacitator8137 we are in Stockholm!
@@SimplicityForGood Bit far away for me to do it. I'm in the UK
@@thecapacitator8137 ah, that is a shame.... Hope you guys are fine in UK... thanks for getting back
Thanks for the info.
Is there a way to activate the tracking and battery information without using the app?
There might be but it's beyond my expertise.
I wonder.. how about changing rear "sprocket". probably custom work thing.. but these electrics have torque for days..
Obviously not for dyno output..😅
I think it would be easier to make a front pulley for it. I'm looking into it. Lower gearing for going off road or putting bigger tyres on without losing performance.
Hey, it's been a while. We should have a catchup, I need to return that spot welder too.
Hi mate! Yeah I keep thinking I need to tell you when I go out /p but haven't been for a while. Definitely over due a meet up.
Do you know if there is some software to program CPX?
I've looked but can't get hold of it, sorry. Let me know if you have any luck.
@@thecapacitator8137 for sure man. Let's keep trying.
hello I saw in the comments of the previous video that the cable was compatible with the controller of the super soco CPX scooter. but not the software, have you found a solution? we are more and more to have CPX scooters... it would help so many people. thank you very much for everything. greetings from france
Not sure on that one. I'll ask my friend who has a cable and a CPX. You could try asking the guy in the previous video if he got it working.
@@thecapacitator8137 the guy in the video says the connector is good, but he's still looking for CPX compatible software. thank you for your help if you manage to find the compatible software, I buy you the direct cable! I really need help because my scooter is stuck at 45 km / hour (28 miles) :( because it is considered a 50 cc, while it is exactly the same as the CPX equivalent to 125cc! I have an engine of 4000w and two batteries of 60v45h of 2.7 kWh for 45 klm/h, I am sad
sorry for my english, i hope i am understandable. I think I spotted the connector too on my scooter, because it is not direct on the controller like him on the tc max but on the other hand, in the trunk under the saddle, there is a small 6-pin connector that joins the controller the same 6 pin plug than the tc max! (I have the two controllers in my possession) because I tried to install a tc max controller on my CPX scooter, all the connectors match the scooter turns on but does not roll, it shows me 83 on my screen , i think it's a battery trouble code because on the CPX it's 60v and tc max 72v. Thank you again for all
I just noticed the difference with the CPX 45 scooter and the normal one (125cc) it's the controllers that change mine it's a VMO-30100-TBG-C000-R10 and the other is a VMO-30100 -TBG-C000-R20 4000w. I think it would be enough for me to put this controller to unleash my scooter, if it is impossible to modify my original controller with your cable, but it is priced at 1000 euros !!! WTF I don't have enough money. you have a solution for me my lord?
@@akadabra34 Sorry, not sure what you can do. I need to go to my friends house and have a look at his CPX.
Do you recommend it?
I planing to get one ?
Yeah it's great. Have a look at my 4000 mile review video for more info.
Where Do i get the configuration program?
Link in the description
hmm how reiable are extended range battery from ali? Im thinking about extended range for my niu nqi gts 4.6kw
I know a guy who has one. He says it's okay.
I have the bigger battery and it’s been good. Real capacity is probably a little less than stated but far better than stock. Real time monitoring with the bms is good as well as being able to check temperatures. For me it was definitely worth it
@@lhk8558 Thanks, it was you I was thinking of!
@@lhk8558 hello i have from alixpres batery for my tc max but i can t conect the app the ant bms can you help me? thanks
Can you tune the standard TC model too?
Not with that cable
Do these new settings increase range?
Hi Umar. No they will reduce it slightly.
Sounds exactly like a washing machine
Feels like $3000 for the upgraded battery is a lot of money. Is there anyone that bought the version available for $500?
$500 battery would be far worse than original, properly less than half of the original capacity
just enjoy the bike and take care of the original battery, if you can keep the thing alive for a decade you'll have much cheaper cells with higher density in the future
Mate, I like your video but you may need to hide your local area a bit more. I was very easy to track down your exact route. I hope that's not where you live. I used to live in Ripon myself by the way. Be cautious.
hello