HOW TO CONNECT A HOME STUDIO LIKE A PRO STUDIO
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What are you doing in your studio?
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I basically have two signal paths, 16 inputs for my drums, and then a two channel pre I use for recording everything else. A snake helps keep everything looking clean, also a 4 channel DI unit for my pre amp to interface and for recording DI guitars along side recording my amps. As for monitoring, speakers out of my interface and a really long headphone cable for my drums 😅 simple and sweet. Love your set up, I hope to have something similar in the future. Here’s a video of my studio build if anyones interested ruclips.net/video/1OHw-qNsU6c/видео.html
Just got my first patchbay!
I'm using a 40 channel modified Allen and Heath GL2800 along with a Presonus Quantum and a 4848. I just got a new 16x4 snake to run mic lines, but I still need to get some patchbays and a headphone system
Watching this video lol
andrew, as an aspiring audio engineer (and music artist) you have given me the drive to keep going and become a professional! thank you
Have you ever had a problem with bringing the mics into the patch bay as TRS? I assume you're really the only one plugging and unplugging mics in your studio. How do you ensure phantom power is managed properly? Keeping it off the passive ribbons, making sure not to short the TRS connections when patching, etc.? What part of the signal flow do you find most problematic? What would you most like to improve? What's the most clever thing you've done in your wiring? 🙂
I have a TT patchbay, i'm not sure if that's what you mean. I don't have any issues with phantom because I don't have anything normalled. If i patch into a mic pre I just make sure phantom power isn't on. But I have never had any issues with phantom. My favorite part for how i'm routing things is getting the patchbays separated by purpose. That has made everything extremely simple.
This video summarizes what I love about your work on YT. The photography is neat, the delivery and explanations are clear and easy to get. This is really motivating.
And you seem to be such an easy going guy.
Great video! 👏...but yours is more like a Home "PRO" studio lol, thanks for the sort of Recording studio connections 101, Basic Pro Studio setup, Studio Connections for dummies hehehe Very informative, thanks again and keep up with these kind of videos 👍
Maybe a dumb question, but how are your mics connected to the patch bay? I assume they all have XLR on the mic side, but the patch bay clearly takes 1/4 inch (or maybe 3.5mm) cables. So are you using cables that have XLR on one side and TS/TRS on the other? And is this also true of the outboard gear that have XLR outs? Thanks for this video. My studio isn't quite big enough to warrant a patch bay yet but I may get there someday.
Great question: quite often patchbays will have 1/4" inputs and outputs on the front and back (trying to fit everything into a single rack space is tough!) but I can see Andrew has a few with DB25 connections (which are kind of like an old computer multi-pin connection) which you can use breakout cables to accept whatever type of input and output you need. So using his signal flow: mic>xlr>xlr input DB25 cable>db25 input on the patchbay and then the patchbay is used to route the signal from there. You can even forgo a breakout from the DB25 if you go into, say, the back of the Apollo 16 (which also has DB25 ins and outs!)
I should say, back in the day, patchbays had hardwired/soldered breakouts to XLR connections or sometimes even larger tie line connectors. DB25 is much much nicer for modularity, but the cables can be expensive. TRS connections work but you will have to adapt some outboard to go from XLR to TRS.
@@aidanknight So if I'm understanding the flow you're talking about - what Andrew showed in the studio - the key is doing the conversions from xlr to DB25 to get them in and out of the patchbays
@@MrMrmusic13 Yeah, you can also breakout to TRS! Probably has a few TRS breakouts if his Apollo 8 is like mine.
Man I’ve been looking for so long for a video like this that actually goes this in depth and practical and is explained well. Thank you!!
Andrew 😂 you out grew your desk in one year. It sucks being you. Love your videos.
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Beautiful done video Andrew. Perfectly explained. Creating without technical hang ups.
Hey Andrew, Big fan of your work, a few questions (great videos by the way) 1)Do you have any of your Warm Audio Preamps Hooked up at Line level on your patchbay? 2) Do you have any issues running 48V Phantom power from the preamps on to your Patchbays, 3) is the grounding on your patchbays set to vertically strapped or issolated to avoid Ground loops?
very informative!! thanks Andrew!
Andrew: “If you’re a masochist like me”
Me: Hold my beer *records to tape with an exclusively analog signal chain*
Fascinating and masochistic, learned quite a bit, would be great to see a video with more details re the personal monitor setup, like to send the audio from DAW to the system
Been binge watching your videos. Moving into a new house, super psyched to set up my studio. Currently working in a small room. Kinda sucks. lol.
This is exactly the video I was looking for! Thank you so much for explaining your setup! I'm going to be finishing my studio in a couple months and this content hit the nail on the head.
Glad it was helpful!
I would have loved this video when I first started recording! I’ll be honest though, patch bays still confuse me a little haha
Just took the plunge into a 24 channel analog console, 8+ I/o interfaces and a patchbay for my home studio… this was super hElpful!!
Andrew,
Thank you for breaking it down for us dummies who love your channel but don’t understand 95% of the videos, the learning curve is steep for us newcomers. Hoping you and Colt, collab on a Recording/Mixing/Mastering basics class I can buy! Cheers mate!
Very Respectfully,
Jared
Nice setup man. I like Warm Audio mic preamps. Art has some good mic preamps as well. Art is very underrated as an audio company.
__Great Information_ *Andrew* ‼I did expect to see a shrimp pop out of your salad 🦐
Thanks!
Simply confused with all the music RUclipsrs owning gear and showing it off while pressing on the words "you don't need' ...
haha I know that all to well. In this instance, I'm speaking to someone who maybe has nothing and wants to be able to get up and running. It's a fact you don't need 24 channels of outboard pre amps lol, you can easily get an interface with built in pre amps all in one. Much cheaper and includes everything you need to get going and start learning, recording, producing and mixing. If you want to invest in a lot of expensive gear, it's certainly fun and everything makes a difference but it isn't required at all.
This great for me, as I have a few older items I purchased decades ago, like a producer pack and old Neumann & AKG mics, even a nice old Trident console! (Needs major service), when I was recording in 2 inch tape studios as a singer/songwriter/guitarist in bands. I’d done a couple of albums & my bass player got us into a Paris system at the time. He was into the newest technologies of the day.
Fast forward many years & I get an Apollo and logic & Luna and some plugins and want to utilise analogue gear which I own as well!
I’ve been gigging with various bands, and felt almost ashamed at having many songs & ideas and nice studio bits and pieces but realised “I” need to get a handle on this before I’m in a rocking chair regretting wasting time, equipment & ideas!!
I’ve always known what I like to hear, and some of my ideas became decisions employed by producers and engineers on tracks! I just never knew anything outside of the few things I saw engineers doing in those hideously expensive studios with only Cubase beginning to be incorporated. My bass player got all the early “Paris” set up and running back then, so understanding any technical stuff was his domain.
Anyhow, thanks for showing these steps, as it’s a steep learning curve I’m embarking on.
If you’re interested, below is something my band recorded on tape and believe we’d just purchased Paris, which was to overtake and succeed Cubase! Early 90’s. (Hope I correctly linked, I’m such a novice).
ruclips.net/video/QqY6e6NeLlo/видео.html
im trying to get my acoustics right in my production room
What Mac are you using and what are the specs? Looking to upgrade and I want to get something that’ll last.
All the deets in here:
ruclips.net/video/pUmueBlufj8/видео.html
I love the setups where you can walk to an instrument cluster and make some noise and you can both get an immediate sound from what's in front of you and it's being piped into the system. Basically I love Stewart Copeland's studio lol. I want a halfway decent acoustic space, not too big, where everything is being recorded all of the time, even if it's just a few omni mics tucked here and there. SO MANY TIMES I say "always be recording" when something amazing happens and it's immediately vapor. There's no reason not to just have an old phone recording with the voice memo or something, you know?
oooh i see you have the audioscape neve style pres!! demo and comparison soon please??
m905 !!!! congrats !!!! hope you took it with the DA card !!! the DAC is just incredible
BTW feedback on this burl summing ??? I am starting to think about getting one
Great video man!
This was a huge amount of help. I feel like a load has been lifted off my mind after watching this. Answered so many questions. Thank you!!!
This was super helpful! Just gonna stick with my small home studio vibe for now though.
I remember putting my studio together years ago and there were no videos like this. Wish you were around five years ago.
Your videos rule man! Always wondered these types of things please more on this matter!
This video solved my question, that I was figuring out how to send 16 channels from Apollo to the P-16 system, due to the Apollo only provides 8 cues…
I am actually in the process of wiring up everything in my new home studio to my new Dangerfox desk that arrived last week. I'm going to have a similar setup to yours with several pieces of outboard preamps, compressors, 500 series, summing mixer, etc. running into a couple Apollo interfaces. I noticed you have vents between most of your preamps now. Were you having heat buildup issues in the desk? The venting in the Dangerfox desk seems pretty adequate between the bottom and back sides of the rack box.
great, I'm about to do a room for recording , mix and all.. not that complete in terms of material, but good enough. And this is always helpful. thanks great tips
New happy subscriber! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us , I’m a new studio dreamer and so happy with your videos and help 🙌🏻
Thank you for this amazing video. For now I'm fully digital producing in my studio. All inputs to an ADAT I/o to a small 18i8o interface.
That was my setup 5 years ago! A lot can happen in 5 years
Oh yeah! Getting into the good stuff 🙌
truth is, I had the basic setups for a LONG time, but now I’m at a time in my recording/production “career” that I want to have all of the external hardware and gadgets to take my skills to the next level
"I'M RICH AND I CAN BUY WHATEVER I WANT MWAHAHAHAHAHHAH" is the gist and tone of this......
Fancy home studio
I love it
What an informative video!!! Great job,man.
Thank you for this! You’ve got such a great setup. How do you manage power? Are you using a power conditioner and are you able to fit everything on one circuit? If so, how many amps are on that circuit? Also, what does the power consumption of a setup like this require? Looking to spec out a PV solar panel setup.
great video. I think the real take-away for people here no matter what level of complexity/or not their setup is, is that this arrangement is fully scaleable. So even if you've only got maybe a small mixer and/or a 4 or 8 channel interface, and just a couple of outboard items, and a couple of mics, you maybe able to be fully connected and ready to go with just one patch bay. I remember when i setup my first patchbay,. That I was then able to get into the flow without having to reconnect everything, everytime I had to record something else, was a liberating life changing experience in my humble little home studio.
and DAW templates to pullup w/routing saved; huge time saver having HW&SW ready to jam/catch ideas
thanks man! ...
Thanks for watching!
Love the videos. Would love more info on the I/O of the whole thing. How do you get from your snake into your patch bay? What connections are you using to get into all of your interfaces? Would love to see a big fat diagram that shows what connections lead to what, primarily how you end up from xlr to 1/4 inch to DB25 to adat and so on. Keep up the great work bro and thanks for all the info.
All the patchbays are DB25, so I just get snakes that go from XLR to DB25. The interface IO connections are all DB25 to DB25.
@@AndrewMasters makes sense. Thanks so much for the reply.
That was realy helpful for me - and a very good explanation thanks! In my studio i have more electronic equipment so i need also a ton of midi cables ..
I don't know if I would've understood this a few years ago. But man I bet it would've helped me understand signal flow faster.
Hi Andrew, I'm a big fan of your channel; wanted to know the brand/model of your black patch bays? Looked through the gear list that you posted but couldn't find them. Thank you : )
I want to know what you do to afford all this 😅. I just got enough money to upgrade my Scarlett 8i6 to a Presonus rack mounted interface. Shit I dont even have a desk yet, Im using a little $50 Home Depot popup table 🤣
Well, you have an amazing studio bro! But I think that it would be beneficial to you to get a flock audio patch bay… I believe that it would speed up your workflow a lot while you are in the creative mood, and let you create without thinking about your patches as you can create presets to save and recall them.
Nah, I love an physical analog patch bay. My studio is setup so that everything essentially lives how it’s patched. I’m really never moving things around in the signal path.
@@AndrewMasters oh ok! But thanks for you answer! It was very nice of you 🙂🥺
Yes and $5,000.oo dollars for a flock, is kinda steep.
@@seanwalsh999 if someone really needs it i believe that it's a very good investment... if someone doesn't need it then they shouldn't get it.
Nice but two thinks
1. If you own Apollo is it such much diference between unison preamps and real preamps ? :)
2. Due the Behriger system is needed meaning is not posible to make directly from Uad x8p ? ;)
Hi Andrew, I'm a musician and I'm working on a home recording studio with pro aspirations. Thank you clarifying signal flow, and the description of your outboard gear. I'll be asking some questions in not to distant future if that's ok?
for these types of videos I think shooting at 60fps would be better because its really blurry and hard to watch when you're panning looking at gear.
Beautiful video, very informative, just added more to my sweetwater cart lol
This was great, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
very informative, thank you Andrew!!!
Andrew, I'm waiting for my Dangerfox 24U desk to arrive. It's taking forever but I'm sure it'll be worth it. I have an Apollo 6 from UA. A Focusrite ISA 428 mic pre. I have a UF8 SSL controller like you have and I want to rack mount it in the Genesis. I also have a UC1 which I'm hoping to rack mount next to it. I also have an AMS RMX verb that I notice you have rack mounted. I've been wondering if that can go into the Genesis as well in a 500 series rack, and it looks like you've done it. So everything is sitting and waiting for the Genesis to arrive. 18 weeks to get a desk is pretty nuts but I'm sure all that will be in the past once I have it assembled and gear going in. Enjoying your videos. My studio is primarily for my own personal use. Just acoustic guitar, and vocals, for tracking and then mixing and mastering.
Guys, what is the best solution, without considering the cost, for recording with complete zero latency (no DSP)?
I understand that I could somehow use a mixer for monitoring the channel path, but could you simplify the concept of creating a headphone mix? Price is not an issue. I want to purchase something that has an attractive design and is very easy to use. Appearance is perhaps the most important factor for me. Price is not a problem.
I do not want any DSP-related issues. Can you recommend the best solution?" No computer monitoring for the input being recorded. It must have an effect, i.e., vocal tracking.
Thank you
Hi, just came across your video. It's great! Really clear. I've just done a refit in my home studio and I was offered loan of an outboard reverb unit (Lexicon mx400). I've only ever used software plugins so this is new territory for me. Could I hook it up to my audio interface via spdif so I still use the mic pre's on my interface? I'm thinking mic>interface>spdif out to reverb unit>spdif back in to interface>PC. Am I getting that right?? Sorry if it's a bit of a noob question 😬
Good to see a nice technical video of how a studio is configured. Never seen all of this info in one place. Very useful
Hello, Andrew- I love your channel! Can you do a video on noise in the studio, such as emi noise, hums, buzzes, crackles, pops, etc- and how to get rid of that. Help us, Obi-Wan Kenobi....you're our only hope.....
amazing home setup... Just to get an idea, can you tell ballpark how much recording equipment is it worth ? (not counting instruments)... I reckon you are well over the $50K (probably double that) but then again I would qualify this as a professional home studio :)
Exatly what I needed to know about setting up outboard gear
Great!
I’m looking into the behringer p16 system like you have. I was just not sure if I could use the optical cable out from my Focusrite Saffire. I currently am using the adat in for an external behringer ada8200 mic pre for 16 channels.
Andrew has a large bowl of veggies just chillin on the desk! Great video by the way lol
Thanks man, I even went to school for this and I didnt really understand patch bays untill now.
wait, if all of the mics go to the patch bay and then to the pres, how do you send phantom power? I'm clearly missing something here
Question about the optical output of the Apollo unit - does that send a direct signal to the headphone mixing amp? Or is it post DAW?
How do you connect an xlr cable into the patch bay? Does it go into the preamps first and then the trs cable from the preamp go into the patch bay?
The XLR connector was invented by James H. Cannon founder of Cannon Electric in LA
I forget what the X stands for but L is for left an R is for Right.
@@seanwalsh999 The Cannon XLR connector has nothing to do with left and right. It is a 3 pin connector most commonly used on balanced audio lines where pin 1 is chasis [not signal ground] ground, pin 2 is + and pin 3 is -.
@@bwithrow011 Sorry, I stand corrected.
@@seanwalsh999 No apology necessary. We're all learning. 3 pin connectors like the XLR and the 1/4" TRS help to isolate ground loops by certain wiring configurations. There are 2 grounds in audio gear: chasis or earth ground and signal ground which us generated by the power supply. When these 2 grounds become connected, hum is the usual result.
Dude, wtf! I haven't seen your videos in a long time. F*ing auto unsubscribe!
Great information! Awesome studio!
Thanks for watching!
Great video Andrew! Very helpful I'm in the process of drawing up diagrams for my studio and you gave me some ideas, love your studio man! Very nice!
Yes, not organizing cables keeps me productive because I can't leave once they get to me.
I thought I would see some advanced tips, didn't think you would be explaining what a mic does! LOL
I miss tape recording, press record and your off. AND HAPPY. And then you're done, you have recorded.
I’m looking to connect my focusrite 18i20 3rd edition to a mic box and give me mroe inputs for microphones but not finding any options
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I watched the video hoping to find out about power supplies for a home recording studio in the uk. How is all the electric gear powered and what extensions etc do you use please?
I love all my outboard gear, wile wiring is a pain, it's still worth it
I want to know how you power everything on a home circuit? I have every outlet used in my mixing room and I'm maxed out. I would need another service to my house to add anymore consumers.
why not just use a flock audio digital patch bay instead of the headache of cables?
This is incredibly helpful. Thank you for this
I love this video, but it is almost comical to me. My studios have always been, how can I run these cables so no one can see them. Cables, cables, cables. Where does it stop!
I love this. And I’m exactly the same. Gotta build the magic of a studio at home. And I hate to have a software version of everything. Having tangible gear really makes the work flow a lot more fluid, and way more fun.
Yooo, damn sick studio! For those using software plugins and instruments an MP Controller would be ideal!!
I think I've seen this somewhere🤔
what's the manufacturer/model of patch bays you are using?
Abeg next video show us you patch from one device to another but everything get to your mixing DAW on the computer
i can not describe how nervous your bowl of soup on your desk makes me 😅
"i get it, i get it, i get it, i don't get it, i don't get it, i don't get, i get it, i don't get" - me this entire video.
So your target audience don't know what a microphone cable live
Dose someone know ?
How to connect computer and interface ?
Cuz there are so far between each
The Thunderbolt3 dose not long enough 😮😮😮
Cuz I wanna put my Mac studio on my desk
But I wanna put my Apollo on my rack
They are kind of far away
Buy a long thunderbolt 3. I have a 15' one. It's great.
Let's see more of the boring stuff. I'd love to see if and/or how you use your aux send and returns.
Thanks. I'm appreciated!
Dude, anyone who is watching this video more than likely already knows what a "preamp" is and what inputs and outputs are. This video could be about half as long.
Next time I’ll hit you up first for approval
Wow, this home studio looks like a pro studio to me :) You did a demanding and outstanding job!
Your desk config is awesome bro very smooth
90s porn music in the background hahaha nice!
Hey Andrew, love your channel. I have a question, I use my computer with a DAW, and an Apollo Twin interface. My question is. Is there a patch bay in most Daw's or, are all patch bays "stand alone"? Keep up the great work 👍.
A patch bay is a physical piece of equipment. So there aren't patchbays in software. Your apollo comes with software called "console" which allows you to customize your I/O routing in the settings tab. But that's not a patch bay.
@@AndrewMasters thank you, you're the Best.