Digital Darkroom: Why Film Still Matters

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

Комментарии • 143

  • @EDHBlvd
    @EDHBlvd 7 лет назад +42

    Ian, Digital darkroom, has officially superseded Analog Rev and will go down in RUclips history as the greatest film photography series ever on RUclips. Please continue killing it. 🙌

  • @appleshampoo324
    @appleshampoo324 7 лет назад +66

    Love your more artistic and deeper view on things. Another gem of a video.

  • @The3Natural
    @The3Natural 7 лет назад +22

    Out of all the digital rev alumni, I look forward to your videos the most.

  • @MiladJPanah
    @MiladJPanah 7 лет назад

    I wanted to press the heart button like on facebook but I can only give you a thumbs up.
    You mentioned the unique tone, something like a fingerprint of the photographer and the lab.
    30 different b&w films, 50² different ways to develop and what many people are missing, especially me is how back in the days you had a meeting with your printer, you went through all the sheets, you talked about the trip, the job, the family and made a couple prints together to find the perfect "finger print" and then you went home and 2 days later the moment has come to see the large print.
    I miss these days.

  • @photoangelov
    @photoangelov 7 лет назад +96

    The room is dark and full of negatives.

  • @Mr.Frenchy83
    @Mr.Frenchy83 7 лет назад +7

    Just got my first batch of Kodak Tri-X 400 B&W, I was speechless (and 1st film ever ahah). Out of 24, I had 19 killer shots that really got into me. I think because of film, you need to be more in a specific mood, and take your time before clicking that shutter. Made me realize that it isn't only about taking picture, but capturing a specific moment. Completely different experience than shooting with my DSLR.
    Great video, we can feel that passion behind every frame.

    • @michaelangeloh.5383
      @michaelangeloh.5383 6 лет назад

      Exactly. I've noticed that. - I found myself spending a lot more time scouting out the image until I "feel" that it's the frame and the right moment. - Of course, you have to kind of preserve film, but I actually already took this approach when shooting digital a long time ago, as cards were smaller, and I didn't care to just shoot half-assed images that I would likely delete later. - Even though with digital you can just take the shot and have something to check later, I really don't mind just going "Nah..." sometimes, because it raises your standards as a creator as well. - I mean, it makes you think about "Is it even worth that one spot on the film-strip?", if the answer is "no", you'll find that it's probably not good enough.

  • @LightHarmonies
    @LightHarmonies 7 лет назад +1

    I honestly look forward to these episodes anytime I see a new one pop in my feed! Thanks for the inspiration to get out and shoot more film Ian! Keep it up! Wishing you only great light and love!

  • @jet528559
    @jet528559 7 лет назад

    sky-high production as usual.. this channel deserves way more subs

  • @MrMirosz
    @MrMirosz 7 лет назад +21

    "Thumbs up" just doesn`t cut it with videos like this. Maybe there should be an additional "LOVE IT" button as well :)

  • @jorgestravels
    @jorgestravels 7 лет назад +1

    Great video as usual Ian! I was a digital photographer and in the last year made the transition back to analog. Nothing beats the feeling of shooting, developing, and watching the results of your photographic creations. The physical aspect of having the film there, the negative and the print is unbeatable!!!! Big thumbs up from Switzerland!

  • @rick-deckard
    @rick-deckard 6 лет назад

    I think you nailed it when you say a moment made for monochrome, a framed made for black and white. That's why it's so exciting finding a photographer that knows how to shoot for black and white, and why I find most black and white photography out there extremely boring.
    Great vid.

  • @chriskirby70
    @chriskirby70 7 лет назад

    Love my film cameras and love my books....a kindle can never replace the smell, texture and joy you get from turning a page.

  • @PaowinPandas
    @PaowinPandas 7 лет назад

    My dad recently gave me his Minolta SRT-MCII after witnessing my newfound interest in photography. Although I bought a roll of film for it, I only took 4 exposures and left the camera untouched for almost a year as I continued to explore digital photography. After watching some of your videos, I decided to put down the Canon and finished the entire roll yesterday in one go. Right after that, I went out to buy more film, and took some more. Thanks for the inspirational videos Ian! Keep up the good work, and I hope to see more!

  • @analogbug16
    @analogbug16 6 лет назад

    I agree so much there’s something about the feeling of shooting film. Participating in a century’s worth of history. Feeling that I’m part of a great tradition of storytelling through images. Keep it up Ian, love these videos.

  • @mangler1055
    @mangler1055 7 лет назад +1

    I've said it before, but of all the post DRTV youtube channels, yours is by far my favorite.

  • @subhadeepdey911
    @subhadeepdey911 7 лет назад +39

    Negative is the real positive.

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад +3

      I like where this is going.

  • @Intltkdktang
    @Intltkdktang 7 лет назад +1

    Loving all the analogue please keep discussing about films. Great work

  • @walliswizard
    @walliswizard 7 лет назад +1

    Keep doing what you're doing, Ian. Every single one of your videos is a must-watch.

  • @cremastico
    @cremastico 7 лет назад +2

    Great way to begin the week, thanks from México (08:07 am)

  • @AlexScene
    @AlexScene 7 лет назад +1

    I love film still. I hope film never goes away. Digital is great, I love that too, but film feels good. I do wish I had space for a full darkroom, but if all you are able to do is develop your own film, that is enough in itself to get the feeling only film can give.

  • @uuill.x
    @uuill.x 7 лет назад

    This video just made me excited to go out and shoot film all over again. Great content!

  • @MrRuffun
    @MrRuffun 7 лет назад

    Awesome video. Great to hear how you talk about black and white photographs!

  • @lovercontax4979
    @lovercontax4979 7 лет назад

    Always, always love the content from Ian

  • @AlexanderCVEVO
    @AlexanderCVEVO 4 года назад

    I really enjoy your content guys, would really love to see more frequently!

  • @drivebd
    @drivebd 7 лет назад

    Whenever i see your videos I start falling in love with films, then i go online to research, then i calculate the knowledge and cost i will be requiring, then i back up. This circle continues.

    • @jameslane3846
      @jameslane3846 5 лет назад

      Cost isn't that expensive. 35mm BnW film can be as cheap as £0.125 per shot

  • @BertieFett
    @BertieFett 7 лет назад

    Another great video Ian. I love your philosophical take on photography

  • @rbruce63
    @rbruce63 6 лет назад

    Pure art! Loved the pictures!

  • @johnhaynes9910
    @johnhaynes9910 7 лет назад

    As ever, great stuff Ian.

  • @andgainingspeed
    @andgainingspeed 7 лет назад

    A very succinct explanation of why people still love film. I'm not one of them. But I love that you are doing what you do. I have some old film cameras that I picked up on an auction site because they had lenses attached that I wanted to try. Kept the cameras that were in working order. Maybe one day ...

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад

      I actually shoot digital most of the time, but it's therapeutic to shoot film haha

  • @_Sisyphus
    @_Sisyphus 7 лет назад

    Thoughtfully and powerfully written. Well done!

  • @David-yt6kp
    @David-yt6kp 6 лет назад

    This is the best video I've seen answering the question...Why film in a digital age?

  • @farrukha2314
    @farrukha2314 7 лет назад

    Superb again. Well done Ian

  • @ManuelGuzmanPhotography
    @ManuelGuzmanPhotography 7 лет назад

    Another great video, Ian! This really was exactly what I needed to hear as I commit more to black and white photography in the face of a community that only shoots color.

  • @nikiljonathan9674
    @nikiljonathan9674 7 лет назад +6

    Agree with what you say about the naysayers, Ian. I started collecting records a year back and they are very hard to come by in India. My friends kept telling me why I couldn't just download FLAC files and listen to them. Like you said, it's all about the passion that goes into such things. Other than my record collection that's growing ever so slowly, I also got my hands on a Canon AE-1 Program after watching your Analog-Rev video. Again, even film is pretty hard to come by here. But recently I got my hands on two rolls of Kodak TMax 100. I've just finished shooting a roll and almost at the end of the other. Can't wait for the results. You've definitely been an inspiration.
    Just before I clicked on this video, I came across a guy selling his Yashica Electro 35 GTN online, I'm thinking of getting it and experimenting with it soon. I am a big fan of your videos and hope you keep putting out good content regularly.

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад +1

      My parents have a huge vinyl collection - they seem to love the process of collecting, and I appreciate that too

    • @michaelangeloh.5383
      @michaelangeloh.5383 6 лет назад

      Let me just add that it matters for the content as well. Putting imagery on film or audio on tape and vinyl gives it more character and definition (despite digital being higher definition, it's too sterile as a base). I personally (and probably many other people without realizing it) don't seem to respond as well to anything that's created all-digitally. That's not to say the creativity put into it is suddenly worthless, but it would've had that bit extra more if it were done analogue. - And even when scanned or ripped you can tell. - I also prefer to listen to Vinyl-rips when listening to music digitally, because it's still replicated digitally. - Older recordings on CD are also great, because they were usually recorded, mixed and mastered all or mostly analogue. It's just really different from anything say around 2000 and onwards.
      This is why I went "back" to film, because I started getting bored with the sterile nature of digital. Digital technology is absolutely amazing, but it's also kind of soul-sucking.

    • @philosyche
      @philosyche 5 лет назад

      Nikil, Where are you based in India?

  • @patpaw
    @patpaw 7 лет назад

    Soooo good. Keep up the good work!

  • @ramentasty8
    @ramentasty8 7 лет назад

    I freaked when I saw this new video. Ian makes my favorite videos! I'm saving this to watch on a special occasion! Haha!

  • @sterby1
    @sterby1 7 лет назад +1

    Yay, new AnalogRev episode!

  • @domste
    @domste 6 лет назад

    Awesome video man! I got into developing my own film a few months ago and I love it!

  • @wasif4475
    @wasif4475 6 лет назад

    Another amazing video. Keep up the good work!

  • @sawanyo
    @sawanyo 6 лет назад

    I just wanna remind my future self, that I've been here since 17K subs.
    This channel is going to blow up eventually, keep it up.
    Amazing commentary and b-roll, all your videos just give me this.. raw feeling of something I can't even describe.
    Would love to see more videos like the Canon AE-1 over at DRTV, though it doesn't seem to be the direction this channel is heading.

  • @kahumphrey
    @kahumphrey 7 лет назад

    Another great video!!

  • @TomWick
    @TomWick 7 лет назад +1

    Great job Ian. Thanks

  • @welshphoto903
    @welshphoto903 7 лет назад

    Great video ian, looking forward to more!

  • @zakshah3480
    @zakshah3480 7 лет назад

    My god, I was so scared you were no longer making analogrev videos, and I couldn't help but think DRTV is missing out on some dope material.
    Seriously, your work is incredible, and I love hearing your opinion. Could you make a video on the developing process of the whole thing? Scanning? Printing? I'm actually interesting in what you would want in a future innovation of the processing industry.

    • @jameslane3846
      @jameslane3846 5 лет назад

      Darkrooms for home developing has become obsolete, full day-loading developing tanks coming for 35mm and 120 by the end of the year. Full day-loading developing trays are coming (dunno when but just invented) for LF. Negative Lab Pro has come to vastly improve colour accuracy and speed of scans in general. Intrepid enlargers coming soon for home enlarging (no need for a dedicated darkroom, they can be folded up and won't weigh more than 2kg). Other innovations are sure to come and ones I am unaware of right now

  • @TheRealRoach
    @TheRealRoach 7 лет назад +1

    Another awesome vid Ian

  • @ShizzledStonebricks
    @ShizzledStonebricks 7 лет назад

    Your videos never disappoint.

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад

      Thanks for tuning in! Hoping we can get the next one up soon :)

  • @ianthomas465
    @ianthomas465 6 лет назад

    Hello Ian. I realy like your approach to the topic. Continue this epic stuff.
    Cheers

  • @waldemirqueiroz3483
    @waldemirqueiroz3483 6 лет назад

    Great poetry...

  • @julianriel926
    @julianriel926 7 лет назад

    Lovely and beguiling video

  • @EdPal
    @EdPal 7 лет назад

    Im loving the passion

  • @MrChristopherwren
    @MrChristopherwren 5 лет назад

    "...simply that something couldn't exist in color.." 👍

  • @ropersix
    @ropersix 7 лет назад

    Since you mentioned Agfa's old black and white "slide" film, I thought I'd mention that, while Scala is no longer available, you can get many/most b&w film developed into slide/positive film by a lab named dr5 Chrome (in the USA). I haven't tried them yet, because I mostly develop my own. But I keep planning to when I get some extra money, and like the idea of having the option.

    • @jameslane3846
      @jameslane3846 5 лет назад

      Slide BnW film is still being made but only 35mm, 16mm and Super 8mm. Fomapan R100

  • @MotiveCap
    @MotiveCap 6 лет назад

    I live in Tokyo at the moment, I went to that coffee shop recently! I was surprised to see that you visited as well :)

  • @nasgarcia1052
    @nasgarcia1052 6 лет назад

    Hey dude! you should be making more videos! Don't tell Kai but your shot are way better :) Keep the videos coming man! Big fan from the Philippines.

  • @alexandros-markovits
    @alexandros-markovits 7 лет назад

    Waiting for the next video :)

  • @markharris5771
    @markharris5771 7 лет назад

    I’m 57 years old and watching a print develop is still a magical thing to watch, and is there anything as amazing as dodging and burning in a darkroom? One teeny thing? Kodak TriX = The film? I’m with HCB and I’m an HP5+ guy although I use Rodinal 1:25 and I think he used an Ilford developer. I think this is your best video yet, including your DR (or AnalogueRev) days.

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад +1

      Thank you, and yes it is magical!

  • @DrMattaru
    @DrMattaru 7 лет назад +3

    I am anne's no.1 fan

    • @DrMattaru
      @DrMattaru 7 лет назад +2

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  • @appledadlife
    @appledadlife 7 лет назад

    Great video Ian, stylish and artist.

  • @aeroxtreme15
    @aeroxtreme15 7 лет назад

    Another great video Ian!
    Hey do you what outro music did you use for this video? :)

  • @RobertNuttmann
    @RobertNuttmann 7 лет назад

    Travel in Europe is very difficult with film. I thought about it for a month before this trip and at the last minute did not bring any film gear because of the Xray machines, lots of them, I expected. I wanted to bring only film gear and a cell phone but now I am glad I left the film cameras at home. My DSLR has been through about 10 X ray machines so far and the trip is not over. Even if you assume different rolls as the trip went on 400 speed film might not have made it through 4-5 X rays.
    That said when shooting at home I am almost all film these days.

    • @jameslane3846
      @jameslane3846 5 лет назад

      Are you travelling by plane or train? Also you can ask (nicely) for a handcheck of the film

  • @Daniel.Anugerah
    @Daniel.Anugerah 6 лет назад

    Just so people know, this same coffee shop was featured in Vox Borders' Japan dispatch.

  • @pratamaadityabiantoro5056
    @pratamaadityabiantoro5056 7 лет назад

    this is deep

  • @hilldweller8605
    @hilldweller8605 7 лет назад +1

    I've been waiting for an upload from you lmao.

  • @bonusben3486
    @bonusben3486 7 лет назад

    so the point youre making is: value arises not from the object itself, but from the people who interact with it. something is valuable as long as people peoject a value on it. nice point

  • @khoinguyen5063
    @khoinguyen5063 6 лет назад

    lovely

  • @niklas9954
    @niklas9954 5 лет назад

    Books. Vinyl. Film. Thats really it.

  • @chengboli1462
    @chengboli1462 6 лет назад

    poetic

  • @Willstonez
    @Willstonez 7 лет назад

    I like Ian.

  • @singyuchan5447
    @singyuchan5447 7 лет назад

    What's the closing music / soundtrack?

  • @ahmadhakiki9433
    @ahmadhakiki9433 6 лет назад

    what is that app you use in your pc?

  • @Potato-adept
    @Potato-adept 7 лет назад +10

    I screamed like a girl when I saw the video

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад +1

    • @Potato-adept
      @Potato-adept 7 лет назад

      Ian Wong and how it was the coffee?

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад +2

      We tried two of their signatures - one was a sugary hot mess! No idea who they made that for. But their traditional drip coffee is pretty good. The guy ages selections of beans and then makes a house blend. Overall, the cafe felt a bit crowded, smoky, and kind of touristy unfortunately!

  • @streets28mm
    @streets28mm 6 лет назад

    Ian what do you shoot this one with? Is it Panasonic?

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  6 лет назад +1

      Anne shot it on a Sony a7S II~

  • @catnamestaken
    @catnamestaken 7 лет назад +1

    Cool

  • @w.fyen02
    @w.fyen02 7 лет назад

    where to see all your photos?

  • @PapadumGeek
    @PapadumGeek 7 лет назад

    Hey Ian, What lens were you using to shoot this?

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад

      We used the Nikon 24mm 1.8 for most of the shots

  • @BigDaddyLante
    @BigDaddyLante 6 лет назад

    Please upload more

  • @Nismo12345678
    @Nismo12345678 7 лет назад

    @7:00 he's using VSCO in Lightroom on analogue photos?

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад +1

      Took a few digital photos to compare :)

    • @Nismo12345678
      @Nismo12345678 7 лет назад

      ah i see. i was wondering if some ppl shoot eg. tri-x400 and then apply the tri-x400 VSCO filter on top lol.

  • @jedteng2650
    @jedteng2650 7 лет назад +1

    I bought films and took pictures,I havent developed it yet,its almost 8 months now ,the developing center is too far,im too lazy to go there,thinking of a way to overcome this...

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад +1

      It's even better that way - then it's like a time capsule of old shots :b

    • @jedteng2650
      @jedteng2650 7 лет назад +1

      Ian Wong haha the films might expire soon dont know how will it affect the images,have you ever used an olympus mju ii? I found my mums camera in her drawer...

  • @thischannelisforcommenting5680
    @thischannelisforcommenting5680 7 лет назад

    Exploring Japan's darkroom huh.

  • @zwete
    @zwete 7 лет назад +8

    Is that a real cop at @2:44

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад +3

      hmm..

    • @takuran
      @takuran 6 лет назад

      Asking the same question

  • @backtoids
    @backtoids 7 лет назад

    fucc me up with this good content

  • @lahyen
    @lahyen 7 лет назад

    This video is really eloquent. I'm starting to take film photos and posting them on an instagram account @elhombrequeduerme.
    Thank you for your videos.

  • @lr4423
    @lr4423 7 лет назад

    Alright, how do we crowdfund a trip for you to Patagonia or Nepal armed with an XPan??

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад

      There's always the Patreon ;)

  • @HKG36E
    @HKG36E 7 лет назад

    Mamiya m645: to buy or not to buy?

    • @Verdoux007
      @Verdoux007 7 лет назад

      It's a great camera (i own one), but a bit heavy and the mirror slap limits the shutter speeds you can use hand held to 125/250/500 (if you're shooting with an 80mm standard lens). I much prefer TLR's (Rolleiflex, Rolleicord, Yashicas) because the negative size is square and since those do not have a moving mirror inside you can get sharp images with lower shutter speeds.

    • @HKG36E
      @HKG36E 7 лет назад

      Thanks for your reply.
      I've looked into TLRs but I consider them to be cumbersome in some way but also handy in some situations. I think I'll look into the Fujica/Mamiya 7 RF camera's for no mirror slap. Now the Mamiya m645 I found is delivered with the standard 80mm lens and with the through the lens mirror house (i believe that is the correct term?).
      It's interesting (and annoying) to know that the mirror slap can be somewhat limiting regarding slow shutter speeds but that's what you have with a SLR type camera.

    • @Verdoux007
      @Verdoux007 7 лет назад

      The Mamiya 7 is probably much easier to handle than m645 or TLRs, but that camera also costs way more, so you have to take that into consideration.

    • @HKG36E
      @HKG36E 7 лет назад

      Yes, it costs way more that's why I want to start out with a Mamiya m645, which for now is within my budget. How about the batteries? I know they are readily available in my country, but how long or how many rolls can you shoot with one battery?

    • @Verdoux007
      @Verdoux007 7 лет назад

      My m645 is such a resent purchase, that I haven't had to change the battery yet. :)

  • @michaelangeloh.5383
    @michaelangeloh.5383 6 лет назад

    2:24 Forgot a censor there... ;P

  • @olofljunggren1189
    @olofljunggren1189 7 лет назад +2

    I essentially only shoot color film :|

  • @anandryan3501
    @anandryan3501 4 года назад

    Serious question, Have anyone ever told how good looking you are?

  • @united-states-morons-corps8467
    @united-states-morons-corps8467 7 лет назад

    1:33 I assume you're also the kind of guy who wears an old good briefs when he can wears boxer briefs.

  • @JerenVelletri
    @JerenVelletri 7 лет назад +5

    more like Why Film Stills Matter lol

  • @Legendarische
    @Legendarische 7 лет назад

    It's all about the B*W. I wonder, have you ever tried a monochrome Digital camera?

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад +1

      Would really like to get my hands on one!

  • @eddiegee2940
    @eddiegee2940 2 года назад

    Dude did you just got up from bed.

  • @Verdoux007
    @Verdoux007 7 лет назад +2

    You really didn't answer the question why film still matters (btw, I'm mostly a film shooter). The truth is, film really doesn't matter anymore, but it's nice to have the analog option too.

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад +2

      Perhaps it wasn't too clear - my argument was that film matters because black and white film is still quite unique (as opposed to colour)!

    • @jameslane3846
      @jameslane3846 5 лет назад +1

      Film does matter. It's a different medium. Do paints, oil, watercolours, pencils, crayons not matter anymore because we have Wacom tablets and digital drawing software?

  • @RuwinduGunatilake
    @RuwinduGunatilake 7 лет назад

    Then polaroid shows up...

  • @Frisenette
    @Frisenette 7 лет назад +2

    I’m a little tired of the crypto romantic, feely touchy, hand wavy, vapor talk always sourrounding this subject.
    Film is just a technically better sensor in so many ways, and with characteristics that better fit the needs and wants of the human eye that it shouldn’t really be a discussion, when all else is equal.
    The history and tradition is very important, but secondary to the first reason.

    • @elangeldelamusica
      @elangeldelamusica 7 лет назад +2

      the best comment on film that I`ve ever read

    • @IanWong
      @IanWong  7 лет назад

      Perhaps the distinction is clear to people who have used both, but oftentimes we get many questions from digital-only viewers. The point here is that we'd like people to use both analog and digital!

    • @Frisenette
      @Frisenette 7 лет назад

      Ian Wong first off, I really love your channel and your style. So this is not general I’ll will towards you.
      I just think it would be more effective and interesting, *especially* for people new to film, to hear what it has to offer technically over digital.
      This is not at all like the vinyl revival where you buy a turntable once and can snatch up cheap records forever. This takes a real investment of mentality and resources.
      Setting up “essentially free” against a fee for every frame shot is a loosing battle in the long run, if all you got is sentimentality and bragging rights.
      Film optically printed with care or scanned with good equipment (not a flatbed mind) will get you so much better image quality it’s not even funny.

  • @binkyboobosh1
    @binkyboobosh1 2 года назад

    Sadly, film is doomed as new, affordable film cameras are not being made. Old cameras are wearing out and parts are increasingly unavailable or very expensive. As is said, the second you scan a film print it becomes digital, so unless you are planning to develop and print your own pics, it's not worth the bother and not really practical.