As someone who hasn't been in the Smash community in general for all that long, I really appreciate the explanation behind why some of those moments were actually that controversial.
@Mami Dijo Que No It’s because fighting games are frustrating and Nintendo has failed to foster the competitive community in any way. The pro smash community is almost entirely fan made, and therefore has no formal structure or ethics compared to other communities.
Exactly, thank you Zero. Because ones like dude screaming at the icies to stop the chain grab was easy to understand, but the one with Hungrybox being upset with a best of 3 instead of the usual best of 5 made sense to me after he explained it and Evo's ruleset.
I normally HATE reaction videos, but it's like a whole new genre here when someone watches something they actually have knowledge about and gives more detail to.
The thing I like about all these types of reaction videos is this: *context.* Sure, other Smash players might know the context as well, but Zero having been so deeply involved in the competitive scene himself and knowing many of these people and how they act, allows these reactions to have unique insight that just watching a video of controversial Smash moments won’t give you. Thank you for your reactions and educating me on not just the habits of certain players, but various rule sets and other things. I’ve followed Smash for around 5 years and I still learn a thing or two every time I watch one of these videos. Edit: seeing as hardly no one knew what ZeRo was involved in when I first made this comment, I don’t regret the above statements. I still think that overall, ZeRo was a content creator who was trying to influence the community for good, at least from a general public perspective. It’s really sad when someone who you used to enjoy watching is now considered a criminal/outcast, especially when almost no one saw it coming until all was revealed. I don’t know at the moment if ZeRo will ever even try to return ever... but if he ever does, I ask that each of us carefully consider how to respond. I believe God gives people the ability to repent and forsake their past lifestyles. It’s hard to say if ZeRo will have tried to do that, or if it would be a facade, or if he would even try to return at all... but I would ask that, if ZeRo does come back, asking for forgiveness and promising change, you be willing to ask God how He would want you to treat ZeRo. I can’t know if ZeRo will have tried to change and should be given a second chance, or if we should keep him separated from the community forever. But try not to let your initial emotions impact your permanent decisions. Be safe everyone. Let’s make the Smash community a better place then it ever has before... and God be with you amidst your trials.
LucarianSpy Yeah I know what happened in almost all of these but ZeRo knows these people or was actually at the event in a lot of these cases, it's a really unique perspective
I'm shocked that one clip where the guy disconnected his controller by mistake isn't here. His opponent paused so he could plug his controller back in and he tried to charge him a stock for it.
This whole ZeRo Drama is giving me depression. Yes, I know that people need to know these things, but the truth sometimes takes time and is hard to process. I dunno, this whole drama made me mad and sad. Some people online say "I am sugarcoating", but it's hard for me to process this. I looked up to ZeRo and thought he was clean. Only for the secret to come out to the light, and hurt me. :(
@@kuroxism I understand. I looked up to him too, and now i just hope no one else of the people i like watching and look up to have done anything illegal. I hope this all gets better soon, with Covid and everything that has happened in the community.
The reason ZeRo stopped playing the Dangonranpa V3 music at the end was, because he knew the dark days were getting close. JK. I just thought about that yesterday.
@@armandobueno1681 samsora, tweek, marss, maister, light... yall act like all of top 10 got taken down it was one player. i loved Nairo but he was the only one
@meaningless Hecker in melee and brawl, ice climbers can 0 to death you with a grab and wobbling which makes playing and watching ice climbers frustrating and boring (at least if they wobble) u can find videos of people getting easy wins wobbling and always it kills the momentum. Tbh i think wobbling is way shittier than screaming in response to wobbling
About the 52 minute long match: I don't know how true this is, but I know that the player was one of the most vocal players to ask for a time limit on matches to prevent stalling, and this was his way to show why it was necessary
@@mika_7218 nah m2k stalled out westballz (assuming the westballz set is the one you mean) to win. i could imagine m2k stalling with puff to prove a point but m2k thinks camping and stalling are fine (unless its puff)
@@insertcolorherehawk3761 Boom was very against Hyrule, which at the time was the only legal stage in the Peruvian scene. Because of this, he decided to stall for 20 mins to win the game against Gerson. The next year, the only legal stage was DL and Gerson was the winner.
Acting like a jackass, everyone praising him for giving context but not telling us that Hbox was wobbled the first 3 stocks in that game and he laughs for that
This whole ZeRo Drama is giving me depression. Yes, I know that people need to know these things, but the truth sometimes takes time and is hard to process. I dunno, this whole drama made me mad and sad. Some people online say "I am sugarcoating", but it's hard for me to process this. I looked up to ZeRo and thought he was clean. Only for the secret to come out in the light, and hurt me.
@@Nothingsince97 Not sure what happened to Lima. I think he fell back down into mediocrity after Bayo got hella nerfed in Ultimate, which goes to show how stupid OP she was in Smash 4 and how she carried players like Lima and Zack to places like Grand Finals of EVO. As for Cpt. Zack, he got into some controversy after his relationship with Ally was exposed. Ally retired from Smash, Zack went on to play Ultimate but is wholly unremarkable as a player, still arrogant and immature about his skill level. I can't remember if he retired as well, but frankly I don't follow every single pro player so where he is right now I can't say I really know or care. Edit: Turns out Zack still plays.
@@ZeroHero3d i mean props to cpt. zack for sticking with bayo though despite the heavy heavy nerfs she got most people drop her completely and move onto someone better but he still kept with it despite how shit she is in ultimate
@@Mattadork Some respect to that, sure. To try and make her viable after she got nerfed into the ground. Commendable. But a waste of time, imho. She is irrelevant in a game with so many better characters, including new DLC top tiers like Joker and Terry, who are so much more dominant to play against than she is.
@@vincentlira1956 He has insight on events that most people dont so we learn about the community and he hates smash he doesn't wanna play that ass game so let him make what he want you wanna watch smash there is hella channels like little z
i wouldnt even call zeros reaction videos "reactions". Because he is really giving interesting insight for those people that are simply interested in the smash community but didnt know the context behind what happened
Jones kamacho lmao it reminded me of my time at EVO as well. I actually had BestNess LMAO I’m all like we got past BestNess 😂 smash.gg/tournament/evo-2019/event/super-smash-bros-ultimate/entrant/3427782
@6:17 I actually agree with the decision to state both players used a coach, since even though it was a joke, the one guy coming on stage to give "coaching" which only to irritate Hungrybox still should be discouraged as other players could potentially use a "joke" coach to actually give coaching. Just saying, the rule was not to have a coach give advice during the matches after pools and even though the guy looks not to have given coaching, a similar situation of seemingly "joke" coaching could be real coaching.
They applied the rules wrong. From the moment HBox got couching he should've been dq'd and that next game shouldn't had happened. That's how every fucking rule should work.
NHRT But he was right? At the time he said all those things about Falcon, they were true? There were literally no good falcon mains. The video takes that disgustingly out of context
HyperDogeGaming He talked smack way before Fatality was a good player, and got smacked months later. Although I still think zero would GRTr4sh’s channel
This whole ZeRo Drama is giving me depression. Yes, I know that people need to know these things, but the truth sometimes takes time and is hard to process. I dunno, this whole drama made me mad and sad. Some people online say "I am sugarcoating", but it's hard for me to process this. I looked up to ZeRo and thought he was clean. Only for the secret to come out to the light, and hurt me. :(
I genuinely hope Zero is doing better. I missed the whole scandal thing when it happened, and hearing about it broke my heart. But I am a firm believer that people can change for the better and I hope this is the case here. I heard about his hospitalization recently and it just makes me so sad. Hope you can come back healthier both mentally and physically.
Really enjoyed this! Watching these clips with context is way better! I love watching smash clips, but dont know all of the history, so you giving the backstory was really cool
Love what you're doing with your content lately, Zero.. My brothers and I have been catching everything new right when it comes out. Such an awesome story to see that you were able to leave the toxic smash community and be able to build your brand like this. Please keep doing what you're doing!
despite watching you play melee for so long, I’ve never actually watched one of your RUclips videos. I’ve seen other controversy videos, but never one explained so well. definitely going to be watching more of you because this was such a good video
(4:20) HungryBox stated that he asked the referee if it was pools, and the referee said it was pools, implying coaching was allowed. HungryBox followed the referee, so it was the referee who was in the wrong.
For the most controversial moment is when Zero, the GOAT of smash 4, and one of the best player in all smash games together, decided to retire from competition when he was still the best
Its so heart breaking seeing the person you looked up to and have been following for years in this light. The day and night difference between how people were before and after this situation just reminds me even more how serious this shit is. ZeRo, you didn't fuck up as bad as Nairo or Keitaro but you still did something that I just can't forgive. I hope you reflect on all of this. I believed in you all this time, but now Idk what to believe anymore, and that goes from anybody in the smash community. These situations highlighted popular figureheads in the Smash community, but the fact that this issue is so widespread leads me to believe that you guys only make up a small percentage of the atrocities that go on. Its been a good run, but sadly I just can't agree with any of it...
This whole ZeRo Drama is giving me depression. Yes, I know that people need to know these things, but the truth sometimes takes time and is hard to process. I dunno, this whole drama made me mad and sad. Some people online say "I am sugarcoating", but it's hard for me to process this. I looked up to ZeRo and thought he was clean. Only for the secret to come out to the light, and hurt me. :(
kritanu rajay He’s admitted to doing some gross things with people below age of consent. One of them I hear lied to him about their age and when I hear a case like that I can’t help but kinda understand with everything being online nowadays but there was other cases where lying wasn’t a factor and he was talking to young teenagers, asking for very lewd videos and such. If I’m wrong about any of this please anybody correct me lol
@@krit5103 he explains in a Google document that he shared on Twitter. But if you look further into comments and stuff he left out some stuff in his Google doc (unless he updated it)
There’s no way to know what G Money said to SFAT. If it’s gonna be a no coaching rule, it should be a “no one comes on stage to interact with he players rule”.
As much as I agree, they would have to draw the line somewhere if it is a coaching rule, because how long can you talk until it doesn’t count as coaching
Doublestrike 9 G Money could’ve been saying something like “just remember what I said earlier” and SFAT could’ve said “yeah okay” and that could’ve been all the advice he needed and it could’ve been exchanged without even saying much words.
@ i think they were laughing because this is the first video that shows up, not the other stuff, but okay. also, he did this shit to himself and has to live with these consequences, one of which is that some people will laugh at you. i understand that he has had a lot of shit in his life, but that doesnt mean we should treat him like some sort of baby
@Grizz Bizy This sucks because I agree with you, you're right to be insulting the idiots that dont. But it wouldnt be right for me to not point this out just because we share a similar opinion. You cant call others "retards" when getting the right "they're" is too hard for you. Sorry
I watch you in the background on Twitch all the time. Same with Hbox. I really appreciate what you guys do. I just wanted to say it. I will never be as good as any of the people who play in tournaments like you guys do/did, but it gives me something to strive for, and I have a lot of fun in this community.
I don't even follow competitive Smash but I was fully aware of the Smash 4 Evo finals controversy after it happened. Watching it was painful with the added context that this was the games final year. It went out not with a bang, but with boo's and a bitter taste. It was a disrespectful farce that shouldn't have been tolerated 1 little bit. Whether it's Smash or any other fighter, people agonize over being good enough to make it at Evo. Smashed controllers, tears, months if not years of training goes into it. Then you have these two, the final competitors who have made it to the end, stomping all over it. I feel bad for all the competitors who tried so hard and didn't make it, only to be subjected to watching this joke of a finals. On a brighter note, thankyou Zero for making these videos. You're essentially my only peephole into the competitive Smash community anymore. Keep it up!
The issue was that the crowd has the right to show their displeasure by booing or leaving. They are showing their investment. People can boo because they can. You can't blame the crowd for what the bayo players have done. Even if they had to go through trials and tribulations, it doesn't stop people from showing their displeasure. Tom Brady went from being the 199th pick in the 2000 NFL draft from being the best Quarterback in the NFL. Brady had to fight for the backup position despite the fact that no one had faith in him. When the previous quarterback suffered a season ending injury, Brady has to take over. As soon as he took over, everyone thought that the patriots franchise was doomed. Brady had to lead his team to their first superbowl win in his first year as a starter. He pretty much saved a franchise. Even though brady fought tooth and nail, people hate him. The patriots are one of the most hated NFL teams besides the cowboys because Brady keeps winning. He gets booed to oblivion. Even with that, you don't see brady throw a tantrum because people are booing him.
@@vDeadbolt Oh sorry I think you misunderstood my message. I meant that the two players were the farce and ruined it for every other competitor. I fully support the crowds boo's. I think it's awful the final year of Smash 4 at Evo was ultimately the worst year because 2 players decided to make a mockery of what is suppose to be a big deal.
add yourself to the list. it's just so disappointing to see someone who so many people look up to do such disgusting things. it's good that you're being mature about it by not defending yourself, but honestly it's just a disgrace. the smash community needs to be built from the ground up.
Just to let you know I've been reading comments on these videos for like 5 minutes tops, and I've seen ThIS diDnT aGE wElL at least 20 times. Before you write a comment you should think about if it's something that's being spammed already. Because you honestly just look like a sheep regurgitating the same lame joke as all the others. Just my two cents.
For someone who doesn't follow the smash community but likes playing and watching the odd game or two, this video was really great. I know that there has been controversy in the past, but unless you looked deeper you never really uncover what it was about or why things happened the way they did so I really appreciate that you took the time and effort to explain what was going on and why.
That brawl one had me dying, holy shit just imagine trying to do a combo while an ape screams in your ear.
I would've punched him in the face ngl
@@Jam-iv6xz it was Ice climber wobbling, so I give him a pass
There's actually a 'Mike Haze' rule at some tournaments now because of it
@@Butt6969 get good. It's part of the game. Don't be mad because you suck.
I would have knocked him tf out
As someone who hasn't been in the Smash community in general for all that long, I really appreciate the explanation behind why some of those moments were actually that controversial.
@Grizz Bandicoot ? Honestly can't understand what you're saying here.
@@GazmG In other words, the Smash Community is the most toxic ever, sadly.
@Mami Dijo Que No It’s because fighting games are frustrating and Nintendo has failed to foster the competitive community in any way. The pro smash community is almost entirely fan made, and therefore has no formal structure or ethics compared to other communities.
@@GazmG
It's like suuuper toxic. Also Nintendo just doesn't care about the competitive scene.
Exactly, thank you Zero. Because ones like dude screaming at the icies to stop the chain grab was easy to understand, but the one with Hungrybox being upset with a best of 3 instead of the usual best of 5 made sense to me after he explained it and Evo's ruleset.
"Has a hit box the size of your house" LMAO
Joke's on him i'm homeless
Felix Rolf so there’s no hitbox
Or the hitbox is the entire world...
So my cardboard box?
@@mistermunchie4145 Yeah im basically unbeatable
yeah i dont think that these are the most controversial moments anymore
phhhhhhhhhhhhhh
FFF
This is really unfortunate
Well, it got even worse now. Bye zero!
Fregato Politis what now?
I came back to this video for the comments
same
same
big same
Its hilarious
we’re just clowning here at this point and i love it
I normally HATE reaction videos, but it's like a whole new genre here when someone watches something they actually have knowledge about and gives more detail to.
R4zE yeah because he’s actually adding insight lol he’s not just watching the full video silently
@Sam H. Why not both? :P
Yeah I agree it's really cool
Wired Lol
thats called a commentary
Who needs coaching when there's that guy in the crowd yelling "JUST F-SMASH HIM" to tell you how to play the game like a true pro.
Yes because true
Like my son said.. popa just watch forward smash. As he holds a smash for 5 mins
The thing I like about all these types of reaction videos is this: *context.*
Sure, other Smash players might know the context as well, but Zero having been so deeply involved in the competitive scene himself and knowing many of these people and how they act, allows these reactions to have unique insight that just watching a video of controversial Smash moments won’t give you.
Thank you for your reactions and educating me on not just the habits of certain players, but various rule sets and other things. I’ve followed Smash for around 5 years and I still learn a thing or two every time I watch one of these videos.
Edit: seeing as hardly no one knew what ZeRo was involved in when I first made this comment, I don’t regret the above statements. I still think that overall, ZeRo was a content creator who was trying to influence the community for good, at least from a general public perspective. It’s really sad when someone who you used to enjoy watching is now considered a criminal/outcast, especially when almost no one saw it coming until all was revealed.
I don’t know at the moment if ZeRo will ever even try to return ever... but if he ever does, I ask that each of us carefully consider how to respond. I believe God gives people the ability to repent and forsake their past lifestyles. It’s hard to say if ZeRo will have tried to do that, or if it would be a facade, or if he would even try to return at all... but I would ask that, if ZeRo does come back, asking for forgiveness and promising change, you be willing to ask God how He would want you to treat ZeRo.
I can’t know if ZeRo will have tried to change and should be given a second chance, or if we should keep him separated from the community forever. But try not to let your initial emotions impact your permanent decisions.
Be safe everyone. Let’s make the Smash community a better place then it ever has before... and God be with you amidst your trials.
LucarianSpy Yeah I know what happened in almost all of these but ZeRo knows these people or was actually at the event in a lot of these cases, it's a really unique perspective
Still bad content
TheMrBlanky guess what I don't care
I agree with everything you said lmaooo I really don’t care about zero beating randoms on quickplay EVERY video
LucarianSpy zero still makes shit content all around and I regret ever supporting him
I'm shocked that one clip where the guy disconnected his controller by mistake isn't here. His opponent paused so he could plug his controller back in and he tried to charge him a stock for it.
I REMEMBER THAT. What a scumbag.
That wasn’t really controversial tho. Everyone agreed that dude was a douche for doing that.
Bruh Fortune is such an ungrateful douche
Man this aged like a fruit fly.
Right
Indeed
Yep
This whole ZeRo Drama is giving me depression. Yes, I know that people need to know these things, but the truth sometimes takes time and is hard to process. I dunno, this whole drama made me mad and sad. Some people online say "I am sugarcoating", but it's hard for me to process this. I looked up to ZeRo and thought he was clean. Only for the secret to come out to the light, and hurt me. :(
@@kuroxism I understand. I looked up to him too, and now i just hope no one else of the people i like watching and look up to have done anything illegal. I hope this all gets better soon, with Covid and everything that has happened in the community.
Zero: “You guys wanna know the most controversial moments in smash?”
**🦀 has entered the chat**
Mr. Krabs 4 stocked HBox 😂
LMAO
Idgi
Pound 2019...someone from the audience threw a real crab at hungry box and he got really pissed at whoever threw it 😂
Lmao
Moral of the story: Evo hates Smash
Moral of the story: Evo hates Smash for a reason.
*FGC hates Smash.
Atinverd Careful what you say lol
@Atinverd Bit awkward now huh.
HyperDogeGaming yes
Not gonna lie, Zero giving context to these makes these reactions better.
If only we knew how bad things really were at that time.
The reason ZeRo stopped playing the Dangonranpa V3 music at the end was, because he knew the dark days were getting close. JK. I just thought about that yesterday.
Haha it gets even worse
Remember when stuff like this was considered the most controversial?
Yeah
Man i cant say nairo without even thinking about what happened. I thought i liked nairo
Now it is zero
Mkleo is my only hope for a top player not being involved in this stuff
@@armandobueno1681 samsora, tweek, marss, maister, light... yall act like all of top 10 got taken down it was one player. i loved Nairo but he was the only one
@@TacoSnipezZ "it was one player" "he was the only one" Are you forgetting about Zero, D1, Keitaro, Cinnpie, and Anti?
What about the time someone threw a crab at hbox
Everyone agreed on doing that one, not controversy to be had.
Ultimate wasn't out when this video came out.
@@alebeerzy1890 *Posted 6 hours ago* This ain't it chief.
@@ervinwilliams9807 I'm not talking about THIS video from ZeRo. I was talking about the one that ZeRo was watching. Which came out 2 years ago.
ESAD
me: *playing ice climbers*
some dude: AAAAAAAAAAAA
Screw Ice Climber players
Sorry, the controller just burned me
@meaningless Hecker in melee and brawl, ice climbers can 0 to death you with a grab and wobbling which makes playing and watching ice climbers frustrating and boring (at least if they wobble) u can find videos of people getting easy wins wobbling and always it kills the momentum. Tbh i think wobbling is way shittier than screaming in response to wobbling
13:32
HOW IT FEELS TO CHEW 5 GUM
UH OH
ICE CLIMB CANCER GRAB
*STIMULATE YOUR SENSES*
Ngl I’d sock the fuck out of someone if they did that to me
About the 52 minute long match:
I don't know how true this is, but I know that the player was one of the most vocal players to ask for a time limit on matches to prevent stalling, and this was his way to show why it was necessary
Didnt m2k stall a match once for that same reason
@@mika_7218 nah m2k stalled out westballz (assuming the westballz set is the one you mean) to win. i could imagine m2k stalling with puff to prove a point but m2k thinks camping and stalling are fine (unless its puff)
Any competing game should have time limits if nothing else than to know exactly how long it will take no matter what. Also to fight against stalling
It was also meant to show SA that Hyrule was a BAD stage
Wasn't that SuPeRbOoMfAn?
@@insertcolorherehawk3761 Boom was very against Hyrule, which at the time was the only legal stage in the Peruvian scene. Because of this, he decided to stall for 20 mins to win the game against Gerson. The next year, the only legal stage was DL and Gerson was the winner.
What about the guy who "unplugged" and said that his opponent should SD for pausing to let him replug
Oh, that.
His name was fortune and hes a piece of shit. omni beat him in the next set and he ragequit and left the tournament.
That was an extreme dick move, I still cant believe there are *shitbags* that are this much of a bitch
I remember that. Complete dick move.
Unforgettable.
I have another one : That time Dunkey beat Sky in Smash
Wait, THAT guy? Isn't he the guy who holds the world record on Bowser's Big Bean Burrito?
@@temilain With a blindfold on?
Shreakisluv and a usb steering wheel?
@@saketh8033 with his little brother playing it?
@@drakemeister And he didn't even exist ?
I'm actually enjoying this series cause zero actually explains a lot of these "old" clips to make sense
Yeah
People only care about rules when they lose.
Sucks for them when they lose again.
Ikr
Please, NO JOHNS.-Reggie Iwata
Ong
“hungrybox is depressed ahAHAHAHAH”
Poor guy he was sad
Acting like a jackass, everyone praising him for giving context but not telling us that Hbox was wobbled the first 3 stocks in that game and he laughs for that
@@ernestoacosta7918 he's friends with him
*_S a d n e s s_*
@@ernestoacosta7918 I hope you get wobbled in real life
None of these even make the top 10 anymore...
Trustme33 ?
the drajp ?
a.nge.f ?
the drajp?
the drajp Did you not see what happened in July
I can think of something a little more controversial than these things...hmmm...
zero goes clicky clacky on skype
This whole ZeRo Drama is giving me depression. Yes, I know that people need to know these things, but the truth sometimes takes time and is hard to process. I dunno, this whole drama made me mad and sad. Some people online say "I am sugarcoating", but it's hard for me to process this. I looked up to ZeRo and thought he was clean. Only for the secret to come out in the light, and hurt me.
_.Omegax._ sorry man
@Grizz Bizy Thanks for understanding how I feel. :)
@@BigSmoke-xh5hi Thanks for the support. :)
*The infamous Bayonetta double battle, of sm4sh* Oh god
@@Nothingsince97 Not sure what happened to Lima. I think he fell back down into mediocrity after Bayo got hella nerfed in Ultimate, which goes to show how stupid OP she was in Smash 4 and how she carried players like Lima and Zack to places like Grand Finals of EVO.
As for Cpt. Zack, he got into some controversy after his relationship with Ally was exposed. Ally retired from Smash, Zack went on to play Ultimate but is wholly unremarkable as a player, still arrogant and immature about his skill level. I can't remember if he retired as well, but frankly I don't follow every single pro player so where he is right now I can't say I really know or care.
Edit: Turns out Zack still plays.
Zack's still playing ultimate with bayo, he had actually fought my friend at a New Orleans local recently.
@@ZeroHero3d i mean props to cpt. zack for sticking with bayo though despite the heavy heavy nerfs she got most people drop her completely and move onto someone better but he still kept with it despite how shit she is in ultimate
@@Mattadork Some respect to that, sure. To try and make her viable after she got nerfed into the ground. Commendable. But a waste of time, imho. She is irrelevant in a game with so many better characters, including new DLC top tiers like Joker and Terry, who are so much more dominant to play against than she is.
Can’t wait for next year when two Jokers start spamming Gun on Smashville for 2 minutes.
There’s something magical about Zero dying laughing at other player’s misery
Seems you've got ample material for a sequel to this one
lol
Oof
Damn
What a gangster
Not really.
you forgot to turn comments off for this one lmao
He’s a bum.
fuck off
looks like we need an update for this video now
If ZeRo ever makes another video
@@yassineflorez7229 Well... he is not seems to upload an goodbye video
Yassine Florez same
What happened
@@jamesgaskill4948 read his wikipedia page you'll find out
The craziest thing for me is seeing you in that clip and realizing how much weight you've lost. You look a lot healthier man, I'm happy for you.
Yay another one of these Zero Smash Reactions I’m so glad for this series I enjoy it A LOT
Yay I LOVE forcing Zero to play a game he doesn't like anymore and only making free content for MY TASTE.
@@bol8122 he's not even playing the game anymore, he's just reacting to shit. Something that takes ZeRo effort to sit there and just commentate.
@@bol8122 ????
@@vincentlira1956 He has insight on events that most people dont so we learn about the community and he hates smash he doesn't wanna play that ass game so let him make what he want you wanna watch smash there is hella channels like little z
@@bol8122 When did he ever say he hated Smash? Dude has a whole ass channel centered around it.
i wouldnt even call zeros reaction videos "reactions". Because he is really giving interesting insight for those people that are simply interested in the smash community but didnt know the context behind what happened
It's more of an analysis tbh
@@TC-ve9rn thats a good way of putting it. Cheers!
It's called commentary
*there is another*
This context has shifted
*Plays at EVO*
Top seed DQ’s and we win 2 games for Round 1 pools
*Goes to Friends*
“We made it outta pools at EVO!!!”
Similar shit happened to me this year lmao. My opponent was a no show and the next person i played also had his first opponent not show up.
Jones kamacho so u automatically win?
Jones kamacho lmao it reminded me of my time at EVO as well. I actually had BestNess LMAO I’m all like we got past BestNess 😂
smash.gg/tournament/evo-2019/event/super-smash-bros-ultimate/entrant/3427782
Biggest Controversy: Little Timmy wins EVO 2020 while doing his homework in the school cafeteria.
Yeah that's not going to happen.
@@williamcll Yoooo actually
I really like that you explain in detail what is going on. It helps me understand the situation better. Thanks!
Here we go again
Why couldn't you stop him before?
Now he’s the controversial topic, along with other people. It’s a shame.
237 likes and no comments wow
What happened
@@javi5810 Zero did some really fucked up shit.
@@nsanity4624 Is there evidence yet?
@@GamingGhoul7 You live under a rock? Check twitter and stuff dude.
Most controversial moments in smash bros ever
*includes NO leffen*
What are you on about? Leffen has always been dearly loved by the Smash community.
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He was in the first one (or maybe the second, I don’t know which this is).
@6:17 I actually agree with the decision to state both players used a coach, since even though it was a joke, the one guy coming on stage to give "coaching" which only to irritate Hungrybox still should be discouraged as other players could potentially use a "joke" coach to actually give coaching. Just saying, the rule was not to have a coach give advice during the matches after pools and even though the guy looks not to have given coaching, a similar situation of seemingly "joke" coaching could be real coaching.
Actually I think sfat called g money in order to save hbox from being dq'd
They applied the rules wrong. From the moment HBox got couching he should've been dq'd and that next game shouldn't had happened. That's how every fucking rule should work.
Can you react to "Fatality disciplines Zero" next?
Lmao it would be awkward though
NHRT But he was right? At the time he said all those things about Falcon, they were true? There were literally no good falcon mains. The video takes that disgustingly out of context
lmaooo. How tf was he right? He talked smack, and then got destroyed by Fatality's Falcon. He got proven wrong. Period.
I think he has beef with Fatality since Fatality tweeted insults towards him couple years ago and he probably dislikes him to this day.
HyperDogeGaming He talked smack way before Fatality was a good player, and got smacked months later.
Although I still think zero would GRTr4sh’s channel
Pretty sure this video is trivial by comparison now...
stfu
Yeah people really just came out the woodworks and were like "we were terrible all along"
"it has a hitbox the size of your house" I'm dying of laughter man, casually dropping that one liner as if it were nothing
This aged like a carnival goldfish.
I like this sort of insider-look onto the smash scene.
The fact that it’s called “Dave’s *Stupid* Rule” should ring a bell...
This title is kinda ironic if you ask me... just saying
This whole ZeRo Drama is giving me depression. Yes, I know that people need to know these things, but the truth sometimes takes time and is hard to process. I dunno, this whole drama made me mad and sad. Some people online say "I am sugarcoating", but it's hard for me to process this. I looked up to ZeRo and thought he was clean. Only for the secret to come out to the light, and hurt me. :(
Wdym?
@@kuroxism Same. I look up to ZeRo and now.......i don't know what to feel anymore.
Not really tho.
DinoZer0 All people make mistakes. Cmon it’s 6 years ago. He’s a completely different person now.
We miss you ZeRo
No we don’t
It's crazy how much healthier you've gotten this is the type of positivity we need ✌
Time to update this video...
Apocalypse is here
Gonna miss these videos
looks like we need an update
If someone yells in my ear constantly I'm leaving before a fight approaches
2:11
"Hungrybox is depressed! A HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA"
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The guy screaming at the Ice Climbers is just HILARIOUS 😂
thank you for these videos ZeRo! It feels like I actually know a little more about the competitive smash history
Now THIS, aged very well
oh boy......
we could have never seen what's happening now back then
Who else is watching ZeRo's old videos??
I miss you my guy!!
I genuinely hope Zero is doing better. I missed the whole scandal thing when it happened, and hearing about it broke my heart. But I am a firm believer that people can change for the better and I hope this is the case here. I heard about his hospitalization recently and it just makes me so sad. Hope you can come back healthier both mentally and physically.
17:31 I love how h-box doesn't even care that he won there, he just shakes his head knowing full well how much that sucked. Speaks volumes really.
Really enjoyed this! Watching these clips with context is way better! I love watching smash clips, but dont know all of the history, so you giving the backstory was really cool
Man all of them got topped in july
5:16
“Don’t get hit”
“What GRSmash video will I react to today”
Schimiya Saturn “I’ve run out of ideas for content so this will have to do”
Before I even checked the channel, i thought to myself, what shit is he going to react to today. Such lazy content, even lazier than before.
Still makes money off of it
Waffles BS so? That doesn’t mean we can’t complain how lazy it is
@@TheWillrocks51 never said that. I'm just saying if it works it works
Love what you're doing with your content lately, Zero.. My brothers and I have been catching everything new right when it comes out.
Such an awesome story to see that you were able to leave the toxic smash community and be able to build your brand like this. Please keep doing what you're doing!
What do you mean by toxic smash community?
@@bastiannordskogmagnussen1163 The smash community, it's toxic
Jam15 I really never see this tbh.
@@hypnobagels8634 Ok
despite watching you play melee for so long, I’ve never actually watched one of your RUclips videos. I’ve seen other controversy videos, but never one explained so well. definitely going to be watching more of you because this was such a good video
(4:20) HungryBox stated that he asked the referee if it was pools, and the referee said it was pools, implying coaching was allowed. HungryBox followed the referee, so it was the referee who was in the wrong.
For the most controversial moment is when Zero, the GOAT of smash 4, and one of the best player in all smash games together, decided to retire from competition when he was still the best
It was genius lol why soil your legacy
basically the plot of punch out wii
Man was this stuff the pinnacle of controversy in smash..
That time is now
My favorite part is when he says “there’s a lot of context here” and then it just makes me laugh
Its so heart breaking seeing the person you looked up to and have been following for years in this light. The day and night difference between how people were before and after this situation just reminds me even more how serious this shit is. ZeRo, you didn't fuck up as bad as Nairo or Keitaro but you still did something that I just can't forgive. I hope you reflect on all of this. I believed in you all this time, but now Idk what to believe anymore, and that goes from anybody in the smash community. These situations highlighted popular figureheads in the Smash community, but the fact that this issue is so widespread leads me to believe that you guys only make up a small percentage of the atrocities that go on. Its been a good run, but sadly I just can't agree with any of it...
This whole ZeRo Drama is giving me depression. Yes, I know that people need to know these things, but the truth sometimes takes time and is hard to process. I dunno, this whole drama made me mad and sad. Some people online say "I am sugarcoating", but it's hard for me to process this. I looked up to ZeRo and thought he was clean. Only for the secret to come out to the light, and hurt me. :(
What exactly did he do? If someone could explain to me
kritanu rajay He’s admitted to doing some gross things with people below age of consent. One of them I hear lied to him about their age and when I hear a case like that I can’t help but kinda understand with everything being online nowadays but there was other cases where lying wasn’t a factor and he was talking to young teenagers, asking for very lewd videos and such. If I’m wrong about any of this please anybody correct me lol
@@krit5103 he explains in a Google document that he shared on Twitter. But if you look further into comments and stuff he left out some stuff in his Google doc (unless he updated it)
yes zero bad let all kill ourselces is protest u first
Well... the drama just escalated to another level..
There’s no way to know what G Money said to SFAT. If it’s gonna be a no coaching rule, it should be a “no one comes on stage to interact with he players rule”.
True
Lol just stop. He didnt get coached
Andy S coaching doesn’t directly need to be giving advice.
As much as I agree, they would have to draw the line somewhere if it is a coaching rule, because how long can you talk until it doesn’t count as coaching
Doublestrike 9 G Money could’ve been saying something like “just remember what I said earlier” and SFAT could’ve said “yeah okay” and that could’ve been all the advice he needed and it could’ve been exchanged without even saying much words.
YIKES THATS THE FIRST THING YOU SEE ON HIS CHANNEL LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
@ i think they were laughing because this is the first video that shows up, not the other stuff, but okay. also, he did this shit to himself and has to live with these consequences, one of which is that some people will laugh at you. i understand that he has had a lot of shit in his life, but that doesnt mean we should treat him like some sort of baby
Swagno Nitram finally someone who gets it.
Swagno Nitram shut up kid, your acting like you know the guy, but you don’t. What he did was bad, keep on defending him while all this happens.
jb vdl thank you
@Grizz Bizy This sucks because I agree with you, you're right to be insulting the idiots that dont. But it wouldnt be right for me to not point this out just because we share a similar opinion.
You cant call others "retards" when getting the right "they're" is too hard for you.
Sorry
This was one of your best videos, Carlos. Keep it up!
The Irony of this video
Hbox needs some Campbell’s soup to soothe that salty feeling
Everything around me fell apart to be honest in 2020, and in my life I've never had to force myself to be positive
Are you Good now
@@epicguy1454 I am now my guy thanks :))
@@chuwy2495 I’m glad to hear your doing better
Goodbye zero. Hope you get help bro.
I liked how you explained each one. I remember being confused when watching these clips without the context.
I love that he gives context to everything, I’ve learned so much about what go’s on behind the scenes.
Incase he comes back after the therapy he should make a new channel called re:Zero
Underrated comment
I have never felt such hatred as I do now
I don't get it
What does this mean
ZeRo was studying legal stages but not legal ages
Make up your own jokes if you wanna fish for likes man cmon
First time watching your react videos, I think I'm gonna go back and watch your other ones (or at least drop a like), they're really good.
I like when zero is talking about the cold venue. He put the snowdin theme.
Now he’s not allowed at any venue lol
Get well soon Gonzalo(edit so glad he’s back now)
Zero: Explaining important and controversial topics.
Me: Is that the Mario music in the background?
Who else isn't coming back for the comments or whatever, but for the actual good content that was put out before then.
This aged like milk
I watch you in the background on Twitch all the time. Same with Hbox. I really appreciate what you guys do. I just wanted to say it. I will never be as good as any of the people who play in tournaments like you guys do/did, but it gives me something to strive for, and I have a lot of fun in this community.
I don't even follow competitive Smash but I was fully aware of the Smash 4 Evo finals controversy after it happened. Watching it was painful with the added context that this was the games final year. It went out not with a bang, but with boo's and a bitter taste. It was a disrespectful farce that shouldn't have been tolerated 1 little bit. Whether it's Smash or any other fighter, people agonize over being good enough to make it at Evo. Smashed controllers, tears, months if not years of training goes into it. Then you have these two, the final competitors who have made it to the end, stomping all over it. I feel bad for all the competitors who tried so hard and didn't make it, only to be subjected to watching this joke of a finals. On a brighter note, thankyou Zero for making these videos. You're essentially my only peephole into the competitive Smash community anymore. Keep it up!
The issue was that the crowd has the right to show their displeasure by booing or leaving. They are showing their investment. People can boo because they can. You can't blame the crowd for what the bayo players have done. Even if they had to go through trials and tribulations, it doesn't stop people from showing their displeasure.
Tom Brady went from being the 199th pick in the 2000 NFL draft from being the best Quarterback in the NFL. Brady had to fight for the backup position despite the fact that no one had faith in him. When the previous quarterback suffered a season ending injury, Brady has to take over. As soon as he took over, everyone thought that the patriots franchise was doomed. Brady had to lead his team to their first superbowl win in his first year as a starter. He pretty much saved a franchise. Even though brady fought tooth and nail, people hate him. The patriots are one of the most hated NFL teams besides the cowboys because Brady keeps winning. He gets booed to oblivion. Even with that, you don't see brady throw a tantrum because people are booing him.
@@vDeadbolt Oh sorry I think you misunderstood my message. I meant that the two players were the farce and ruined it for every other competitor. I fully support the crowds boo's. I think it's awful the final year of Smash 4 at Evo was ultimately the worst year because 2 players decided to make a mockery of what is suppose to be a big deal.
@@Beelz55 yeah. My mistake
add yourself to the list. it's just so disappointing to see someone who so many people look up to do such disgusting things. it's good that you're being mature about it by not defending yourself, but honestly it's just a disgrace. the smash community needs to be built from the ground up.
what did he do?
Explain?
This didn't age well...
Just to let you know I've been reading comments on these videos for like 5 minutes tops, and I've seen ThIS diDnT aGE wElL at least 20 times. Before you write a comment you should think about if it's something that's being spammed already. Because you honestly just look like a sheep regurgitating the same lame joke as all the others. Just my two cents.
This aged like an inanimate object
*It didn't*
@@Gankstomper lmao all of them are sheep memeing 12 year olds that can't think for their self's
Zǝๅpɹᴉs _FGC predator defender
ken 700 predator defender
Can’t look at him the same way anymore.
For someone who doesn't follow the smash community but likes playing and watching the odd game or two, this video was really great. I know that there has been controversy in the past, but unless you looked deeper you never really uncover what it was about or why things happened the way they did so I really appreciate that you took the time and effort to explain what was going on and why.
Still waiting for part 2