@@johnchuttlesworth6419 well he wasn't talking about the 95% of ignorant people in the US. he was talking about the population of the future occupied territories.
@@ursodermatt8809 The Inca Empire existed roughly from 1438 to 1533, with the Spanish conquest led by Francisco Pizarro marking the end of the empire in 1533 when he defeated the Inca ruler Atahualpa and took the capital. I still think it was European disease that really defeated them.
Don't You Get It, it is our Counter Point to the Globalist who want a One Government World, we are like sure, Under Our System and Our Rule! Even the Hard Thought on Such Completely Blunts the EU and their World Domination Dreams! It is the EU... They want the World under their System, and We the American People, are Like Ha Ha, yeah, it can be under our System!
Yes, this territory and that territory are owned by European monarchies. Time to give them the boot out of North America and simply defend the U.S. instead of the rest of the world.
America> We need a base for national security Small country> Ok, ok... You can have a military base America> Great America 10 years later> Why are we paying for all this defence Small country> Then leave America> We need it for national security. America 10 years later> why are we paying for all this defence REPEAT
Yeah I mean this has worked so far, more or less... but that was before the complete proliferation of submarines, longer range missiles and to some degree nukes. In a peer to peer war thwy couldn't hold these small islands. None of them. They're just too small and logistics can and will be disrupted. Even in ww2 they needed England as base for the European theater despite having a major FOB on Madeira. For Afghanistan and Irak they needed Rammstein AB in Germany as well as many smaller, uncontested airfields and bases (Kirgistan, Saudi...). There's no way they can project any meaningful power without friendly host nations (Japan, Phillipines, Europe...). Like it or not... US needs them if they want to sail globally.
I was stationed at Diego Garcia for 13 months. The British presence was limited to raising the Union Jack, enforcing customs, and running the British pub at night. Otherwise, the island operates primarily as an American territory, using U.S. currency and vehicle codes - all fueled by Filipino beer.
Speaking of Diego Garcia, the British ceded the islands away to Mauritius. It makes no sense, their claims make no sense, and they have ZERO capacity to enforce their claims. Yet the British just gave up sovereignty away for nothing. It’s ridiculous. So this current arrangement sucks, the Europeans are too incompetent.
Historically the federal government has been quite inflexible on unilateral secession. What we need is for more people to have an irrational dislike of California so we can leave the union. It's like having a job you don't like but you don't want to quit, you want to get fired. America, please fire us.
Talks about American imperialism by Trump and discussing it as something viable normalize Russian and Chinese aggression against their neighbors. It's extremely stupid for Trump to have these talks. Extremely stupid!
💯. The whole concept of nations having spheres of influence in the 21st century is ignorant. Every nation has sovereignty and won't do as they are told unless it is in their interests More and more that will become apparent as behaving under that sort of rules based order is going to be the only way to build long term allies, rather than people who hate you around the world. The US has a chance to grow up and show the way to China and Russia.
Peter, I'm a retired Navy officer who was assigned to a NATO command in Denmark at the tail end of the Cold War. I totally agree with your assessment of the situation in Greenland, Denmark with Iceland. Damaging our relationship with Denmark (possibly France and Germany too) outweighs any benefit gained by taking over Greenland.
That’s an insane statement. Those countries rely on the US regardless of how they feel personally about us. And this deal would greatly benefit all 3 parties. Denmark makes a ton of money and cuts dead weight that is an annual net negative on their economy. Greenland gets an economic boom along with massive well-paying job surge and rejuvenation of their towns/cities’ infrastructure. And everyone is much more secure with American military controlling the Arctic passage.
Possibly? The relations between Europe and USA would plummet. We would now face aggressive imperialism on two sides and it would have consequences 100 %. Peter is talking like this is a monopoly game. EU is already now fed up with being the servant.
The world isn't something to divide up against great powers. Talking about sovereign countries like it's a pick-and-choose buffet for American private interest is pretty gross.
The world has always been something to be divided up between great powers, ever since the first empires emerged over four thousand years ago. The concept of state sovereignty is a legal fiction invented at the 1648 Peace of Westphalia as the condition of truce between rival European powers and is only maintained to the extent that the prevailing great powers feel that it is in their interests.
I would add to your analogy that your friendly next door neighbor had an antique car that required a lot of maintenance AND they also let you borrow their car whenever you wanted, you just had to refill the tank. We're trying to steal a car that requires a lot of maintenance (that we don't want to be responsible for), from a friendly neighbor, who would let us borrow the car anyway for the price of a fill up. The only thing missing is the curb your enthusiasm music...
The Panama Canal is a case of the repo man backing his truck up to the narco's abandoned estate to pick up a broken down car decades behind in its payments.
Trump didn't want to miss the opportunity to announce how sleazy he is. I think everyone heard him. Perhaps not the conservatives who feel they invented property rights.
There is already a lot of anti-american populism in the EU, not only at the far right & far left, and Trumps talk about taking Greenland and Panama is a gods gift to politicians that use that populism.
@@mysterioanonymous3206 What was lacking? Or do you mean asserting themselves against the United States? That's going to happen now. You can't isolate yourselves fast enough.
No Trump is right,the world is changing. What happens if a new elected government in Panama decides to cancel the deal with the US? Peters view is too narrowminded.
Trump is like a bull in a China shop when it comes to this facet of politics. Completely oblivious to the reality of the situation. There is 100% going to be a lot of damage control from those who know. Will Trump then get the memo? We'll see. If he stops talking about this shortly after his inauguration, someone will have convinced him of the merits of the silent empire strategy.
@IL2TXGunslinger You're acting like the Europeans have never been pissed at us before, they've already hate us, always have and always will, so it doesn't really matter what we do.
Some Danish newspapers investigated the alleged pro-Maga Greenlanders and discovered that they were either homeless or socially disadvantaged people who were offered a free meal in a nice hotel in exchange for wearing the Maga hat. They weren't really pro sale (For a sense of real reaction watch Conan (O'Brien) Without Borders, Greenland episode from 2019. Yes, he's a comedian, but you can clearly see how Greenlanders felt the last time DT tried to buy their country! (Season 1, episode 12 on Max, plus a lot of clips on RUclips)
@@viceman8152 Well he did say a danish newspaper about it, which is obviously biased in denmark's favor. It's like using a msnbc poll about trump's popularity, it's not trustworthy.
I hope they never do. As a retired Canadian I will not live in Trumpistan. Exploring my options. Never in my life would I have expected to get shivved this hard by our so called friends and allies.
True, I am from Spain and that never happened. But they US did steal Puerto Rico and Philippines by inventing a war. They also tried it out with Cuba. They stole also more than half of Mexico, which was passed by Spain to them. But it is true they don't change the names, many places in the US bear Spanish names: Las Vegas, Nevada, Colorado, Oregón, California, Florida, etc, etc, etc. I like the fact that everything official in the US is dubbed into Spanish language too. Thus, we keep a big footprint in the US too.
@@noormohamad1 As an American, I despise Trump as well, buuuut...... to be fair, let's be honest, the US and Canada merging is probably inevitable sooner or later.
If you think America became what it is by being moral, you should probably do more reading. But it's hardly alone in that regard when it comes to first world nations.
Yes, but US was land of free and was supposed to be city on the hill... The fact that you believed that gave others assurance you won't turn nasty, at least not openly nasty . Now you embrace nasty Trump 's idiotic ideas undermine your image, values and credibility. Seriously.
To call people in Greenland extremely poor is something of an overstatement!! Unlike the USA, there is free healthcare, free education, pension, maternity leave, 6 weeks paid holiday etc. All things you do NOT get in the USA! (GDP per capita Greenland: USD 57,116.30 (2021)) For comparison, GDP per per capita Kenya: USD 1,949.90 (2023)) GDP per per capita US: $81,695.19 (2023)
Has to be said that most stuff is very expensive in greenland since pretty much everything has to be imported and there is very little to no infrastructure. Generally transport is done by helicopters in winter and by ship in summer. Whule they have like 20 cities none of them are connected by road networks since its basically impossible cuz of the ice. currently the state of greenland loses money and Denmark pays for that. Its not a huge number like 700 million dollar.
That $57k a year includes a subsidy of ~ $9,000 per person per year from the Danish central government, and neglects the extreme cost of basic commodities (food, fuel, housing, etc.) By American standards, the people who live in Greenland ARE poor.
No, it's NOT about defense. Ever since the Cold War, we've had the option to expand our military presence in/around Greenland and don't need to do more than say it needs to be done in order to do so (in other words, NATO and Greenland would rubber stamp it, especially with Russia being Russia, these days). We don't need to acquire Greenland as a territory or state in order to shore up national and global security. But we DO "need" to acquire Greenland in order for the Tech Bros to be able to bring in _Chinese_ mining companies (cheap and have zero concern about human life and environmental health) in order to [grape] their tech sector-dependent resources. In other words, to make all the "meritocrats" richer at everyone else's expense... as usual.
Well Peter Zeihan didn't address the fact that the government of Greenland has been flirting with Independence for the last few decades. Is that just bluster on their part, or could it actually change the situation? I do think the potential for extracting resources from Greenland is vastly overstated. It's a frozen wasteland, so it'd be very difficult for the benefits of extraction to outweigh the costs. Even if the resources it has were considered to be vital, it would probably make way more beneficial to try and gain preferential access somewhere else, preferably somewhere in the western hemisphere.
How much is imperialism going to cost us? We have to defend it, buy it, etc etc etc. Does it benefit us and them in a way that makes sense for both sides?
Who cares about the cost to economically replaceable units (aka citizens of the United States)? The only cost that should be accounted for is profit. The deprecation of human capital of the global south through forceful means is not a tragedy.
The Panama Canal is the only part that would really add much occupation cost, and only because the US would have to deal with the drug cartels from there. For Trump, that seems to be a *feature*, not a bug. Republicans have been clamouring for a security intervention in Mexico.
In the hypothesis US goes the imperial path, which I do not believe is going to happen - you will capture lets say Canada, then Iceland, and the next country you try will already have nukes. So, I guess it will cost you everything.
Greenland would be similar to the Louisiana purchase, or Alaska. People at the time think it's silly, but people 150 years from now people will view it as a steal.
Nobody is going to the moon or mars. Humans don't belong there. Don't believe grifters and their nonsense. Have humans dominated this planet enough to think they can dominate others? 🤠
Yeah, but allot of people want to be with US, so I say We Ask, and Extended the Olive Branch! Like Yes, some Nations can Join US, and we should make that Offer... We are talking about a Nation's Population Voting to be with US, and 2/3rds of our Houses Agreeing... Than it would be our Land as our Land there's, and be one and the same people, with the same rights and powers as United States!
The Only Problem is the Way Trump is going about it... Making a Mockery of the Situation, turning it into a Joke... That is the Problem, not that We offered, just the way it was done...
Ah, I recall the times when the American leader had some concept of the obscene amounts of soft power the nation has and were not rambling like a maniac about invasions and annexations. Oh, those were good times.
@deadeye4520 Doubtful. Unless you're ready to pay the cost in lives and material to take those places and hold them. I doubt Americans have the stomach for that anymore.
@ No, a completely different mindset is governing U.S. foreign policy now. The U.S. doesn't want to fight wars all over the world. China, Russia, and Iran are in charge of the middle east now. The U.S. will be working toward it's own defense, and NOT trying to be the world's policemen.
Panama is not a ‘basket case’ The people of Greenland are not ‘poor’. They have a longer life expectancy than the USA. Sucotra is an ecological preserve, it is protected and would kill several unique species if developed for military use. Other than getting everything wrong, this was an interesting video. Question: how does this man make a living?
@@FurkanCemTurfanda regardless, its percapita income places it solidly in the ‘middle/upper middle’ income bracket. Whether it got its money from resources, tourism, Denmark or martians, it’s not poor.
As he said, that's the genius of American imperialism. Nobody notices when a country is occupied, not even the USA 😂🎉 Let's hope president Cheeto isn't stupid enough to change that.
@@deadeye4520 @ASDeckard He mentioned both the Azores and Canarian Islands, which are two groups that form part of the Macronesian Archipelago. Both groups where never occupied by the US, seeing as both Portugal and Spain where neutral in WW2. There was a planned operation to set up airbases in the Azores, but nothing ever came from it - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Alacrity Just thought id ask what he meant, but I guess he misspoke.
Trumps handling of Danmark and Greenland have generated a lot of bad Will, but it means that the greenlanders want to stay in the kingdom. Good job Donald
Uh, yeah. They were already unhappy with Denmark. If you look at the last couple decades of their local politics it's fairly obvious they'd prefer to be our territory. Which is apparently what President Trump had already done when he made the offer.
Bro come out of your silo😂greenlanders welcomed Donnny t Jr like a hero the Danes are cruel overseers the locals hate them Greenlanders will come around they know if we don't own them. China and Russia will make a move for it and those people will lose there way of life.
@@listener523 i wonder what us will offer that denmark wont. I dont see americans being happy if greenlanders as part of us get free healthcare, the worlds nicest and most luxurious prison, large sosial support programmes
@@bill9540 what kind of a partner threatens you constantly with economic sanctions and military action? If the US keeps up with this type of "humor" it will find itself quite lonely very quickly. No, most of the world doesn't find amusing being belittled and threatened.
@@MarkusHelgason Quite possibly…but seeing that BOTH Countries are VERY heavily dependent on USA trade, it’s a highly skeptical proposal. And, who will step in and assume their trade products so their own Country doesn’t suffer an economic collapse? If China, then recall that China’s Belt and Road Initiative has proven one thing, it is that infrastructure improvements (the typical manner of China’s policy) come LOADED with Sovereign Debt which Countries are nearly universally unable to afford. Nearly every Country falls behind in payments and China’s recourse is taking possession of the asset. The comment is lacking any economic credibility.
Most of europe don't follow freedom of speech the right to bare arms just to name a few. Obviously not all of europe is following the French German and English in their far left governments. Most Europeans are surfs thinking they're free. The far left is losing power so go ahead and leave and we'll just be more friends who align more with the US like Poland and the Baltics to name a few.
Near the Canary Islands is Western Sahara. When US recognized Western Sahara as a Moroccan territory in exchange of Morocco recognizing Israel, I always thought the US could have at least also secured a perpetual lease for a couple of bases there. Western Sahara is near enough the Gibraltar Strait and would have given the US a permanent forward force projection base in North Africa too. But the US seems to prioritize Israeli interests more than theirs these days.
There's no real naval power in that area that would challenge the US. The Royal Navy and the French are both in NATO. Russia is locked up by Turkey and Denmark and Iceland. China is locked up by Singapore. So I'm sure they were offered that base during negotiations. They just won't have any use for it. (but it would be a pain to supply logistics to, so you're literally better off without an extra base)
Morocco is to this day a major US ally, and more importantly on Morocco's side they consider the US a critical ally. If we need a base in the area I'm sure they would be happy to let us pay a low enough lease for one. We didn't close our WW2 era naval base there until 1977. We also opened several Cold War airbases in the nation, one of which became their largest international airport after we left.
Your military is literally under our militaries command structure. You literally answer to Biden right now, and only Trudeau if he asks nicely and is allowed command for a day. It defaults to America though. Although in the fairest trade in the world, the US can also lend out American assets to the Canadian PM. Trudeau was given command of an element of F-22's to shoot down some of the Chinese spy balloons, which Biden did not have to do and could have just commanded them on his own without Canada having any say, because Canada does not have airspace, it's just extra American airspace, but it was nice of him to give Trudeau some shine since it was over your nation. In theory we could invade Canada with the Canadian military. It's the perfect ploy: you'd never see it coming.
Life is becoming more like Professional Wrestling every day, I can’t believe it has come to taking Greenland. If I wake up and see that Hulk Hogan has been nominated US Secretary of Defense, I will move to Mars.
I'm from Denmark, if Trump proceeds with his plan I hope this alliance will end. What kind of ally does that to you, how long before a moron like Trump announces a "special military operation".
What Ukraine needs to win is an order of magnitude higher than what the West is capable of producing without going into partial military economies. Even if we wanted to give them millions of drones we lack the capability
What naval ports? Russia hasn't had access to naval infrastructure since the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union unless you are talking Sevastopol Marine Trade Port which they seized as part of the Crimean Peninsula seizure in 2014 which gave them access to Sevastopol once more.
@@RAT7163 They had a lease on it, not exactly the same as owning it in exchange for reduction in energy prices. I perhaps misspoke in saying lost access. Invading the Crimea so as to null and void that arrangement (as well as gain territory) wasn't exactly being a good neighbour.
What people don't grasp yet is that Russia has defeated NATO and the collective West (Emotions betray objective rationale) Russia dominates the Arctic, and always will. With this, they and China (Eurasia) will control the North East Sea Route, the INSTC, and the BRI! The three most important Maritime, rail, and land networks of the future. Eurasia... With commodities, tech, industrial, military might, and trade options will be too strong for the US to compete with in the future! China, with Russia, are also rapidly easing the West out of Africa and becoming a dominant force. Indeed, these US/Trump measures... That seems? to be expansionist are infact protectionist from Eurasia completely overwhelming the Western market! Russia will become as strong as ever, Europe is becoming weaker than ever... which is why the US needs to essentially make it a colony, whilst also consolidating the M East. Both of which they are doing and will ultimately use to service the US treasury and its debt! I know the hate is coming, but I'm a realist, not an imperialist ideolog!
Great take on the situation. I think how America has handle its global affairs since WW2 is key reason it is why America has become so great. If it starts too think it can take over other counties through invasion or economic force, it will be no better Russia or China. It will then lose global trust and influence in which the US has spent so much time building up and developing over the years. Remember every counties independents and self governance is paramount. This is what the great American experiment is based on. The US has a good thing going, don't wreck it.
There’s a lot of times that I disagree with Peter like when he tries to say that the Chinese navy is insignificant that’s absolutely absurd, but this video was spot on.
I voted for trump and generally like his foreign policy itbcan be a bit course but it makes sense even in dealing with nato. But wtf is going now with Greenland and Panama they are our allies and have been for the most part compliment with our deals. It like he is unessacerially stirring the pot. Why? Does he know something we don't or has he lost his mind he has always been over the top but it was directed at our problems. This is nonsense.
…and now Greenland / Denmark no longer can agree to any new US activity on Greenland (by the US state or private enterprises) - and also have to reconsider the agreement for the US Pituffik / Thule base…
GDP per capita in Greenland is $57,116 according to Wikipedia, which is very much on the high end, up there with Sweden, Germany, and Canada. And its Gini is only 33.9, so that's not likely an issue with the mean.
He's not talking about invading anyone dummy. Greenland and Canada will almost certainly become part of the US over time in some capacity for economic and security purpose. Whether that's joining or essentially becoming an open border entity, it seems inevitable. Greenland natives in particular would have a good deal hitching up to the US in terms of development.
@@Jack-_-HOne is a voluntary transaction and the other isn’t. Greenland being bought, or more likely being bought off, is much less violent than Russia willing to create a land connection to Crimea through the barrel of a gun.
@Jack-_-H in a press conference Trump did not rejected the possibility to use Forces talking about Panama.However Imperialisme 1.0 Vs Imperialism 2.0,USA can do both.
@@ASDeckardto strip it off its mineral wealth. Rare metals and minerals are abundant there. Its basically the new Iraq and you make up some sh*t to invade because a Russian shallow got blown off its migration course and land in Greenland. Reason for invasion from uncle sam.
I don't know about you all, but my mother taught me not to take things that don't belong to me. We already have treaties & stations all over the world. No excuse to land grab like Russia, Germany, Japan etc did during WW2. Inexcuseable.
@eberts0604 because they were men of the enlightment and did not support imperialism. You don't know your own history? Bullying neighbours and allies is turning the US back to the 19th century.
@@Sakufighternot really. He is an hawk though and most of his forecasts and predictions are usually way off. Amusing but you wouldn't want to base your foreign policy on it.
Re Africa : if the US decided to "project power" into Africa the screams of racism within the US political cesspool would defy all belief. And as I rapidly approach 69 my threshold of 'all belief' has been recalibrated many times.
If Malaysia and Indonesia merged, it would control ALL the sea lanes from S Asia to E Asia. This could make them strong, but it would also encourage foreign countries to control their political process.
Who gets to run the merged entity? Indonesia has always regarded itself as the big brother. Is Malaysia with its 9 rulers ready to swear fealty to Indonesia? Then there's Singapore right smack in the middel of the two.
You haven't heard of the Konfrontasi (an undeclared war between Malaysia and Indonesia) and Five Power Defence Arrangements, have you? The arrangement of UK, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, and Malaysia was created to deal with the regional threat, i.e. Indonesia, directed at Singapore and Malaysia. Though the tensions subsided, the Arrangement still exists.
A geo-political analyst that can't pronounce Marianas and doesn't seem to understand that Guam is part of the Mariana's Islands. Northen Marianas is a governmental construct under the territorial auspice of Guam - not a separate strategic target for "imperialist ambitions". Guam is literally 20 miles or so from Rota (Southernmost Northern Marianas Islands). I have been to all of them...
I am seventy-eight years old and for my entire lifetime I have perceived America's role in the world being similar to the kid in the schoolyard who tries to unify the vulnerable kids against the schoolyard bullies. While there is occasional friction, the exchange of knowing we will be behind them if the going gets tough creates enough good will that we will have support if we need it. Trump appears to want to be the bully. I don't think he understands the difference between friends and partners compared to subjugated servants.
We Do Not Have Europe's Support! They are just using US and will Drop US at the Earliest Convenance! We have the Anglo-American World if we can Take it from the EU, the EU that eyes it and Causes Trouble all over it... They are the ones behind our Political Mess, they Seek to Collapse and Replace US! The 1st thing the EU did was try to replace the Dollar as World Reserve Currency with the Euro, they are Not our Friends, they are Not our Allies, Wake Up! It is Europe! And World Domination has been their Game for Centuries!
Trump doesn't understand the concept of friends at all. He has never had any. Neither has Elon for that matter. These are two massive narcissists who cannot reason beyond their own personal needs and wants. Everyone and everything else is a tool for them to achieve their personal goals - which may be as simple as a small ego massage.
And the group lead by america butchered who ever they perceived as getting closer to the big bully. Severely clamping down their development and killing millions. I used to pray for times like this
The Australian Financial broke a story this week that an Australian geologist holds the mining rights to the largest rare earths deposit and that he has been briefing Trump for years. He refuses to sell to the Chinese but is frustrated by the Danes, Trump is determined that the mine will open and not have any Chinese influence.
Because Canada is a different story: that really would be akin to an 80s Wall Street takeover, hollowing out social programs and safety nets, privatize what can be, so he can fund tax cuts for rich folk, etc.
@@Zhengrui0 I don't think many Americans realise that Canadians would be prepared to kill US soldiers to defend their land. They don't want to be American.
Sorry, Pete: greenlander are NOT poor; they have the same living standards as Danes and the same benefits: free healthcare, free education, free unemployment benefits, so - at it again. Do your homework! AND - I promise you that if Trump takes Greenland the Danes would be pretty hostile to the US. Remember we have been strong allies and have lost soldiers in various US wars!
Given what you laid out here…how do you explain what is actually happening: threatening Denmark and Canada. This seems to just destroy good will for no benefit.
Explanation? Trump (and many of his followers) does not understand how the world works, think he can bully them into whatever he wants. They are stupid.
@@xupac1379 well, I think it’s time this behaviour is reciprocated appropriately. I don’t negotiate with my toddler when she throws a temper tantrum. I don’t see why nato allies should negotiate with this child every time he cries.
@@xupac1379 Which was ghost written as a lot of bullshit about a serial bankrupt who actually went broke owning a casino and single handedly folded a national football league not to mention fleecing students out of millions. That's America's hero.
Nobody said that Trump is better than Putin. People admire Trump because he is actively working to make America great again for Americans. Not foreigners. Unlike a lot of rulers in a lot of countries including those that Peter Zeihan named.
If Greenland joined peacefully, you'd hate Trump and frankly, Americans anyway. It's not just about Trump. That's the truth of the matter because you'd be bitter about the US gaining power. Interesting take given the US already has a military base there, this seems to be more of a long term play if the planet is truly warming like many claim. The bitterness comes from you realizing this is actually a smart move if the US could pull it off.
@@Quest3Games threatening Greenland, Panama, Mexico, and Canada accomplishes precisely the opposite. Now our neighbors hate us and secretly plot against us. Not so great after all.
the problem is not so much whether or not he is better or not than putin, it is that he is infinitely more stupid than putin. and that is quite a feat.
Not necessary if you can simply threaten, bully and subvert. Have you ever heard of the term “Finlandisation”? Coined during the Cold War for what the USSR did to Finland - they didn’t actually invade it or install a puppet government as they did elsewhere in Eastern Europe, but they rendered it “neutral” - ie unable to pursue any policy that displeased the USSR (like joining the EU). That’s what the US will do - former allies will become hostages.
A majority of the American public can always be propagandized into supporting an aggressive war under the pretext of self-defense and national security. The techniques for manufacturing consent are well established.
Until they see success from it and they'll fall in line. Then Canadians drive down to the mid west during summer and spark numerous wildfires to engulf vast areas. Dont believe it's possible? Look at the video of a tesla flame thrower attached to a Drone. If a spark from a train can start a forest fire imagine a Pyro kamikaze Drone
Aspects that have been mentioned elsewhere that I wish had been addressed is talk of growing Chinese presence/interests in Panama including the 2 HK controlled ports and switching from recognizing Taiwan to not. And what this might mean in terms of consequence for the US if China sabotages the canal or something along those lines that would deny US usage for a period during a war. And for Greenland, we used to have 10k troops in Greenland during the Cold War, and so it seemed like it had been useful/important for strategy vs. Russia in the past. Did that change with technology? What about the rare minerals and such there that might be valuable/useful as alternate supply lines? Denmark already is inclined to get rid of Greenland, so why would they be offended?
My sister was in Cuba when Obama opened up travel and she found the population extremely friendly and deathly afraid of their government, they all loved Americans! As for the income of Greenland and Iceland they make more then I did working for a major manufacturer in the states. Although their cost of living is higher then in the US I don't believe you can call them extremely poor!
CANCEL NAFTA 2.0 Bring 100% of American automotive manufacturing careers home to America where they belong Canada, we love you. Canada, your family Canada stand on your own town feet …. We need equity in our trade. America first
Peter, while I understand that you're making a case against US imperialism I still find your commentary lacking due to not raising the ethical aspect nor the importance of the western principal of a " rule of law" based international order and what that means for freedom as well as prosperity. For me as a European and a Swede, and probably other citizens of smaller nations these values and rule of law is what we need to retain our freedom and sovereignty. It seems to me that these are no longer important as it doesn't even reach the commentary in the ongoing discourse of land grabs? And this regardless if you're Russia, China or even the US.
If you're new here, look in the top left-hand side of the screen in a Zeihan video. Since November/December last year all Peter Zeihan videos are a week in delay because of a move to Patreon.
Dear Peter, Though I see your point that we don't need to take any of these places your dialog comes off sounding like T's Nazi-like ramblings about American expansion by force if necessary are somehow normal and should be considered. This man appears to be losing his marbles and may be poised to take us all down with him. Please don't even attempt rationalize this megalomaniacal insanity. God save us all.
Nice info, and not a single piece of truth in it How come you all are so badly informed in the US? Independence story is a domestic policy pipe dream in Greenland like abortion is in the US. Always talking about it, but no real change over 60 years. You could have an abortion in 1975 if you wanted, and you can in 2025 if you want Independence is a subject for elections to divide. Not a viable option unless you want to find a sponsor with no demands in return
Considering Trump’s obsession over the Southern Border, Panama makes sense. Greenland less so, but Denmark’s involvement only lasts as long as they’re not independent… and Greenland has been pushing *hard* for independence.
You know there are a few countries between Panama and the US Border right? Even if the US took it over migrants would still try to cross into the US from Mexico but now more migrants would cross into Panama and try and get into the US from there. If you want to prevent migrants crossing into the US from Mexico then the best way is to help those countries to combat crime and smuggling not threaten to invade. Invasions always spawn large amounts of refugees.
@ The issue with Mexico is that Mexico *doesn’t want* US forces ‘helping’ the Mexicans. Mexico isn’t really cooperating with the US. At all. -- Panama Canal isn’t actually a big land route due to the Darien Gap- it just now allows US forces to attack cartels from the Southern direction.
There are regional independence setups used in some places. Isn't Puerto Rico quasi independent btw? So for Greenland Trump really should negotiate with the people that live on Greenland. If he can offer them a better deal then what Denmark does they just may take it. Trump IS a deal maker after all. So, small chance but not impossible to pull off.
@@michaelpettersson4919 The question shouldn’t be whether it’s possible, (it is) but whether it’s desirable. Given the long and never ending succession of unmitigated success stories in the US’s foreign intervention sphere over the last 20 years, could there possibly be some negative effects? Making a bonfire of alliances carefully crafted since the 1940’s may have downsides.
@@michaelpettersson4919 Yes, Puerto Rico is what is understood as a protectorate The are independent with the protection of the US. Though the US does push some influence on it, but generally aren't too forceful about it, in most cases. That is kind of one of the ideas for Greenland that has been discussed. Panama is more about correcting what is perceived as a mistake and economic and military play.
Keep in mind that you need 1 soldier for every 7 citizens to effectively run an occupation. Greenland has less than 60k people on it which means you can occupy the whole island with just 10k US soldiers. That’s very easy to manage and do and we have already had that number of personnel there during the Cold War, the infrastructure is already there.
I feel like Greenland could eventually be overrun with American citizens and overrule their state of government. The problem is that the US would have to then administer an entire landmass of permafrost nearly the size of a continent.
America literally already administers a continent, including a massive frozen hellscape of permafrost and some of the tallest, and most remote, mountains in the world.
Denmark had higher per capita casualties in Afghanistan than the US and never even had a public debate about surrendering to the Taliban. Greenland receives massive subsidies from Denmark + free healthcare & special transport to Danish hospitals if needed + education system etc. They have the great social issues and the young men posing with MAGA hats were some of them - one even a career criminal. Who else had the time to pose with Donald Jr. on his 2 hour visit during daytime? Greenland is slightly overrepresented in the Danish parliament with 2 MP’s and very left wing always voting for a social democrat PM - thus the Democrats will get all the votes and if Greenland were to become a state then 2 more for the Democrats.
Agreed, this wasn't part of the platform people voted for. With that said (we can if we want) is a pretty strong position for negotiation. I also can't forget the company he keeps. This agian may be smarter than we know. Everyone is thinking of resources and land mass. I'm thinking ai data centers with nuclear power generation 🤔 The small population could literally be made insanely rich for very little. Low population means nuclear power goes up without issue. The weather is perfect for cooling. Yeah 😊
Fafo. Trump can grab Greenland today, but the cost to America long term will be very high. Funny you think nuclear. Iceland has practically free energy due to geothermal. Why bother with expensive nuclear facilities if you can get it easier out of the ground
When the US left the Azores, and just after they built 100s of houses, it caused a huge negative economic impact for the Islands. There is a huge ghost town near the former base. So if it so important, why did they leave. When I was there on my kast visit, the Chinese were interested in the base.
It will be interesting to see if the Azores are remotely interested in allowing the Chinese any sort of official, long term base. I find it unlikely, but I could be wrong.
@@JoeJohnston-taskboy In other words, 'I'm not going to say anything but vague shit others can project on while giving you nothing to work with so you can't respond'.
Peter, you should do a video on how Trump’s imperialism will reduce the price of eggs. Remember to give us all the historical context as well as the oh-so-nuanced thinking of the incoming Trump administration regarding the cross-section of geopolitics and grocery prices. (I’m being sarcastic, of course.)
Most of America's eggs are exported, to the EU specifically, while we import basically no eggs. Starting a trade war with Europe might unironically lower the price of eggs, as long as Mexico stays on side (they are our only real egg import partner: everyone else is a taker).
Given the USA’s appalling record on the environment, I very much that the Greenlanders would vote to join the USA. And I hope that decent Americans would express their outrage if Trump’s rhetoric begins to move towards reality. I can’t believe that Congress, even with a Republican majority, would authorize the use of force for an invasion of Greenland. It would put us in the same moral category as Russia, China, Venezuela (currently threatening to take over Guiana), and Argentina.
Surprised no mention of Bermuda in this. The US previously had a Naval base there and would seem ideal location to have one but it closed a while back (in the 70s if I remember correctly).
In 1950s Guatemala and Iran were imperialist objectives. At the end end of WWII Churchill asked FDR to take over Middle East control because Britain was war broke. Guatemala was small and easy to take over. American imperialism is alive and not so well, and we are getting spread out too thin. Imperialism has certain objectives: 3Gs God, Glory, Gold.
The people of the US need firstly to be determined. Determined to act and succeed in US and world interests. We are challenged in so many ways, but are resourced, resourceful and have many friends and admirers to tap. May God Bless Us as we strive to do His will.
LOL - I don't think God has a special fondness for the USA or the American people. If such a God actually exists, his love would probably encompass all people on this earth - regardless of their gender, sexuality, skin color and nationality.
@jorgenlarsen775 No preference expressed here. Jesus states explicitly He wants all, he leaves no one behind. Observation shows different groups aspire to and achieve or fail differently both in national achievements and achieving quality of life for themselves and others. The US is among the best at this. It's understanding of what values and effort to requirec achieve to goodness for it's people is shared widely with others. Justice, Safety, Markets, Administration, Fairness, Productivity , are not perfect, but among the best in the world. Pax Americana is not perfect, but it is real. People like the former Soviet Bloc and Ukraine fight, die and revolt to achieve it. Powers like UK, France, Japan, Turkey, Israel who have alternatives ally or associate with it. Hong Kong, Ukraine, Tibet lament loss of connection to it. Those who fall under Russian/Chinese/N. Korean/Iranian rule in the future will feel benefit of the loss of American influence in their well being most when it happens. The US may not follow beneficial Christian precepts perfectly. But observation shows when it does often follow beneficial Christian precepts, blessing accrue widely and generosly. Pax Americana.
@@lawrenceralph7481 I assume you believe that nonsense yourself. But you really can't have been around the world much if you think the US is a model for quality of life. The Global Social Index measures quality of life in a wide range of areas. Denmark is number 1 on the list, followed by Norway, Finland, Iceland and Sweden. These are all Nordic countries. Christianity plays a very small role in these countries. The US is number 29 - far behind most European countries. But admittedly the US is definitely ahead of countries like Russia, China and North Korea. But that's also a poor basis for comparison.
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The most sensible statement you made was right at the end. Empires fall because they overreach and those subjugated become hostile.
not if the subjects are in ignorance
@@johnchuttlesworth6419
well he wasn't talking about the 95% of ignorant people in the US. he was talking about the population of the future occupied territories.
Empires fall because they weaken their currency and become too bureaucratic.
@@yedidyah-jedshlomoh1533
yeah like the inca empire! for sure.
@@ursodermatt8809
The Inca Empire existed roughly from 1438 to 1533, with the Spanish conquest led by Francisco Pizarro marking the end of the empire in 1533 when he defeated the Inca ruler Atahualpa and took the capital.
I still think it was European disease that really defeated them.
Trump during the election: “We need to stop globalist forever wars”
Trump after the election: “We need this territory and that territory”
Don't You Get It, it is our Counter Point to the Globalist who want a One Government World, we are like sure, Under Our System and Our Rule! Even the Hard Thought on Such Completely Blunts the EU and their World Domination Dreams! It is the EU... They want the World under their System, and We the American People, are Like Ha Ha, yeah, it can be under our System!
imperialism isn't globalism tho
Yes, this territory and that territory are owned by European monarchies. Time to give them the boot out of North America and simply defend the U.S. instead of the rest of the world.
Zeihan doesn't KNOW the DIFF between basic "American Imperialism " ... = GOOD !
and the Globalism ( = BAD FOR AMERICA WORKERS ! )
@@dracoii1147importing h1b indentured slaves is globalism. All the billionaires around trump are globalists.
America> We need a base for national security
Small country> Ok, ok... You can have a military base
America> Great
America 10 years later> Why are we paying for all this defence
Small country> Then leave
America> We need it for national security.
America 10 years later> why are we paying for all this defence
REPEAT
such a small comment from such a small mind. USA has saved the world 3 times over. Get bent
And in the case of the Philippines, they eventually just kicked the Americans out by letting the deal that let them have the base expire.
Yeah I mean this has worked so far, more or less... but that was before the complete proliferation of submarines, longer range missiles and to some degree nukes. In a peer to peer war thwy couldn't hold these small islands. None of them. They're just too small and logistics can and will be disrupted. Even in ww2 they needed England as base for the European theater despite having a major FOB on Madeira. For Afghanistan and Irak they needed Rammstein AB in Germany as well as many smaller, uncontested airfields and bases (Kirgistan, Saudi...). There's no way they can project any meaningful power without friendly host nations (Japan, Phillipines, Europe...). Like it or not... US needs them if they want to sail globally.
Meanwhile a major city burs to the ground... This country is a joke.
Place your bets now, who the Secret Service will fail first, for maximum payout!
I was stationed at Diego Garcia for 13 months. The British presence was limited to raising the Union Jack, enforcing customs, and running the British pub at night. Otherwise, the island operates primarily as an American territory, using U.S. currency and vehicle codes - all fueled by Filipino beer.
I am glad US did not change the name of the island.
@@jabato9779 It will be the Trump Islands after Jan. 20th.
DG never had an indigenous population, did it? It matters.
@@SSArcher11I think snakes hitched a ride to DG
Speaking of Diego Garcia, the British ceded the islands away to Mauritius. It makes no sense, their claims make no sense, and they have ZERO capacity to enforce their claims. Yet the British just gave up sovereignty away for nothing. It’s ridiculous.
So this current arrangement sucks, the Europeans are too incompetent.
Canadian water planes are helping LA with its fires. Not complaining and trying to over throw the California government.
Honestly, you're welcome to it. I can think of several cities in California that could do with "regime change"
thats what we want them to think... operation maple thunder underway my friend
Historically the federal government has been quite inflexible on unilateral secession.
What we need is for more people to have an irrational dislike of California so we can leave the union. It's like having a job you don't like but you don't want to quit, you want to get fired.
America, please fire us.
@oglordbrandon America loves blowing s--t up, but to make explosives, you need potash, 85% of potash uses in America comes from Saskatchewan.
well as the 51st state why would they be hostile
with friends like these, who needs enemies?
That's always been true though.
He ain't right. He ain't never gonna be.
to be Americas enemy is dangerous, to be Americas friend is fatal - Herny Kissinger
@@benjifiji2019 a ruzki imperialist stooge. lol
Yeh, very deep and meaningless. Try making sens of.this now in the context of Greenland?
Talks about American imperialism by Trump and discussing it as something viable normalize Russian and Chinese aggression against their neighbors. It's extremely stupid for Trump to have these talks. Extremely stupid!
Exactly my thinking...
💯. The whole concept of nations having spheres of influence in the 21st century is ignorant. Every nation has sovereignty and won't do as they are told unless it is in their interests More and more that will become apparent as behaving under that sort of rules based order is going to be the only way to build long term allies, rather than people who hate you around the world. The US has a chance to grow up and show the way to China and Russia.
Trump is just saying the quiet part out loud
I wonder if that's on purpose. His cordiality towards putler is telling.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Peter, I'm a retired Navy officer who was assigned to a NATO command in Denmark at the tail end of the Cold War. I totally agree with your assessment of the situation in Greenland, Denmark with Iceland. Damaging our relationship with Denmark (possibly France and Germany too) outweighs any benefit gained by taking over Greenland.
There is millions of dollars worth of resources in Greenland, that’s why
Correction, Gulf of America
@@msergio0293trillions worth , rare earth minerals that we need for chip manufacturing.. and to become independent.. also oil , uranium , and fish etc
That’s an insane statement. Those countries rely on the US regardless of how they feel personally about us. And this deal would greatly benefit all 3 parties. Denmark makes a ton of money and cuts dead weight that is an annual net negative on their economy. Greenland gets an economic boom along with massive well-paying job surge and rejuvenation of their towns/cities’ infrastructure. And everyone is much more secure with American military controlling the Arctic passage.
Possibly? The relations between Europe and USA would plummet. We would now face aggressive imperialism on two sides and it would have consequences 100 %. Peter is talking like this is a monopoly game. EU is already now fed up with being the servant.
The world isn't something to divide up against great powers. Talking about sovereign countries like it's a pick-and-choose buffet for American private interest is pretty gross.
Every bit as ugly as Putin's rhetoric.
The world has always been something to be divided up between great powers, ever since the first empires emerged over four thousand years ago. The concept of state sovereignty is a legal fiction invented at the 1648 Peace of Westphalia as the condition of truce between rival European powers and is only maintained to the extent that the prevailing great powers feel that it is in their interests.
Americans are behind it 100%
It’s the way of history.
According to… you?
On a smaller scale, this lunacy about Panama, Greenland and Canada seems equivalent to carjacking your friendly next door neighbor in their driveway.
I would add to your analogy that your friendly next door neighbor had an antique car that required a lot of maintenance AND they also let you borrow their car whenever you wanted, you just had to refill the tank.
We're trying to steal a car that requires a lot of maintenance (that we don't want to be responsible for), from a friendly neighbor, who would let us borrow the car anyway for the price of a fill up.
The only thing missing is the curb your enthusiasm music...
The Panama Canal is a case of the repo man backing his truck up to the narco's abandoned estate to pick up a broken down car decades behind in its payments.
@ There’s that and the fact the carjacker has five at-fault hit and runs in the last two months.
Trump didn't want to miss the opportunity to announce how sleazy he is. I think everyone heard him. Perhaps not the conservatives who feel they invented property rights.
@@revolutionaryhamburger en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_expansion_project#:~:text=The%20Panama%20Canal%20expansion%20project,operation%20on%2026%20June%202016.
There is already a lot of anti-american populism in the EU, not only at the far right & far left, and Trumps talk about taking Greenland and Panama is a gods gift to politicians that use that populism.
Good.
It may just be what Europe needs to start asserting themselves.
The E.U is lucky they even exist let them have there anti-american sentiments we shouldn't care, the cucks who run Europe are feckless.
Yes, asserting also against US...
@@mysterioanonymous3206 What was lacking? Or do you mean asserting themselves against the United States? That's going to happen now. You can't isolate yourselves fast enough.
Peter, I'm surprised you didn't call for NZ to be occupied so you could hike more often while not leaving the US!
He was chased by a terror bird 🐦
as by his point: under the existing system, he already has that. the US already exists as a global empire
Seeing as Peter doesn't include NZ on his world map!
Steady on! NZ is the 8th state of Australia
Or Australia is the West Island 🤔
I can't remember
I don't understand why he is sanawashing the stupidity of Donald Trump!
That's the problem with running an empire while pretending not to. Eventually someone will not get the memo.
But American’s just want ‘America first’ ‘why are we paying for foreigners’ because it’s how you got rich dummy!
No Trump is right,the world is changing. What happens if a new elected government in Panama decides to cancel the deal with the US? Peters view is too narrowminded.
Trump is like a bull in a China shop when it comes to this facet of politics. Completely oblivious to the reality of the situation. There is 100% going to be a lot of damage control from those who know. Will Trump then get the memo? We'll see. If he stops talking about this shortly after his inauguration, someone will have convinced him of the merits of the silent empire strategy.
It's not actually an empire, it's a defendpire and for good reason.
@@rosevfx you can't possibly be serious
The fact that we are having this conversation is unconscionable ….
I always thought it smart to get valuable territories
@@cooldudecs at what cost?
@@IL2TXGunslinger we are in a different era. Dog eat dog
We all know that there are thieves in the world but it's generally not cool among friends. You are a sad speciman. @cooldudecs
@IL2TXGunslinger You're acting like the Europeans have never been pissed at us before, they've already hate us, always have and always will, so it doesn't really matter what we do.
Some Danish newspapers investigated the alleged pro-Maga Greenlanders and discovered that they were either homeless or socially disadvantaged people who were offered a free meal in a nice hotel in exchange for wearing the Maga hat. They weren't really pro sale (For a sense of real reaction watch Conan (O'Brien) Without Borders, Greenland episode from 2019. Yes, he's a comedian, but you can clearly see how Greenlanders felt the last time DT tried to buy their country! (Season 1, episode 12 on Max, plus a lot of clips on RUclips)
All of the polls have Greenlanders wanting to join the US, nearly 2 to 1. So...
@@viceman8152 Well he did say a danish newspaper about it, which is obviously biased in denmark's favor.
It's like using a msnbc poll about trump's popularity, it's not trustworthy.
The Canary Islands have never been seized by the US. I wonder whether other claims in this video are equally inaccurate.
That is true.
I hope they never do. As a retired Canadian I will not live in Trumpistan. Exploring my options. Never in my life would I have expected to get shivved this hard by our so called friends and allies.
@@noormohamad1 trumpistan, har har, better trump than evil Trudeau
True, I am from Spain and that never happened. But they US did steal Puerto Rico and Philippines by inventing a war. They also tried it out with Cuba. They stole also more than half of Mexico, which was passed by Spain to them. But it is true they don't change the names, many places in the US bear Spanish names: Las Vegas, Nevada, Colorado, Oregón, California, Florida, etc, etc, etc. I like the fact that everything official in the US is dubbed into Spanish language too. Thus, we keep a big footprint in the US too.
@@noormohamad1 As an American, I despise Trump as well, buuuut...... to be fair, let's be honest, the US and Canada merging is probably inevitable sooner or later.
Mentioning how it's morally wrong and opposes what are ostensibly the core values of America might have been nice....
What core values? The fact that Trump got elected twice suggests that we've largely lost any core values we used to have.
We don't have a Bill of Core Values.
Morals are subjective and vary from culture to culture. That's why we have laws; they're relatively objective.
If you think America became what it is by being moral, you should probably do more reading. But it's hardly alone in that regard when it comes to first world nations.
Yes, but US was land of free and was supposed to be city on the hill... The fact that you believed that gave others assurance you won't turn nasty, at least not openly nasty . Now you embrace nasty
Trump 's idiotic ideas undermine your image, values and credibility. Seriously.
@@wojteks4712we know.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”
Hope Americans protest and don't let the American Hitler have his way
Hence Luigi
or blog apperently
Good has already lost
Give up
Its over
Who is evil, who is good, depends on who you ask
To call people in Greenland extremely poor is something of an overstatement!! Unlike the USA, there is free healthcare, free education, pension, maternity leave, 6 weeks paid holiday etc. All things you do NOT get in the USA! (GDP per capita Greenland: USD 57,116.30 (2021))
For comparison, GDP per per capita Kenya: USD 1,949.90 (2023)) GDP per per capita US: $81,695.19 (2023)
But what does that $57K/year buy you in Greenland? I'll bet the price of a dozen eggs is much, much higher there than in Palm Beach Florida.
Has to be said that most stuff is very expensive in greenland since pretty much everything has to be imported and there is very little to no infrastructure. Generally transport is done by helicopters in winter and by ship in summer.
Whule they have like 20 cities none of them are connected by road networks since its basically impossible cuz of the ice.
currently the state of greenland loses money and Denmark pays for that. Its not a huge number like 700 million dollar.
@@crosslink1493and the income in the US is paid with debt.
@@crosslink1493 That won't change if they became a part of the USA. But they might lose affordable healthcare and education, etc.
That $57k a year includes a subsidy of ~ $9,000 per person per year from the Danish central government, and neglects the extreme cost of basic commodities (food, fuel, housing, etc.) By American standards, the people who live in Greenland ARE poor.
No, it's NOT about defense. Ever since the Cold War, we've had the option to expand our military presence in/around Greenland and don't need to do more than say it needs to be done in order to do so (in other words, NATO and Greenland would rubber stamp it, especially with Russia being Russia, these days). We don't need to acquire Greenland as a territory or state in order to shore up national and global security. But we DO "need" to acquire Greenland in order for the Tech Bros to be able to bring in _Chinese_ mining companies (cheap and have zero concern about human life and environmental health) in order to [grape] their tech sector-dependent resources. In other words, to make all the "meritocrats" richer at everyone else's expense... as usual.
Greenland is still to cold and frozen for mining. Trump just wants his name in a history book, just like Putin.
This exactly
Well said.
I am thinking that they have arctic trade passages in mind. That has been a quiet fist fight that has been going on for awhile.
Well Peter Zeihan didn't address the fact that the government of Greenland has been flirting with Independence for the last few decades. Is that just bluster on their part, or could it actually change the situation?
I do think the potential for extracting resources from Greenland is vastly overstated. It's a frozen wasteland, so it'd be very difficult for the benefits of extraction to outweigh the costs. Even if the resources it has were considered to be vital, it would probably make way more beneficial to try and gain preferential access somewhere else, preferably somewhere in the western hemisphere.
How much is imperialism going to cost us? We have to defend it, buy it, etc etc etc. Does it benefit us and them in a way that makes sense for both sides?
Who cares about the cost to economically replaceable units (aka citizens of the United States)? The only cost that should be accounted for is profit. The deprecation of human capital of the global south through forceful means is not a tragedy.
Both sides benefits? You want your house and home to be conquered for your own benefit? Need to be introduced to some proper civilization? Clown
The Panama Canal is the only part that would really add much occupation cost, and only because the US would have to deal with the drug cartels from there.
For Trump, that seems to be a *feature*, not a bug.
Republicans have been clamouring for a security intervention in Mexico.
In the hypothesis US goes the imperial path, which I do not believe is going to happen - you will capture lets say Canada, then Iceland, and the next country you try will already have nukes. So, I guess it will cost you everything.
Greenland would be similar to the Louisiana purchase, or Alaska. People at the time think it's silly, but people 150 years from now people will view it as a steal.
You forgot the Moon and Mars dude!
You mean the Moon and Muskworld Prime?
Space force exist where do you think they go next
Nobody is going to the moon or mars. Humans don't belong there. Don't believe grifters and their nonsense. Have humans dominated this planet enough to think they can dominate others? 🤠
@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff I was thinking the Oort Cloud?
Musk will own Mars.
With friends like these, who needs enemies
If it isn't our land, it isn't our land
Yeah, but allot of people want to be with US, so I say We Ask, and Extended the Olive Branch! Like Yes, some Nations can Join US, and we should make that Offer... We are talking about a Nation's Population Voting to be with US, and 2/3rds of our Houses Agreeing... Than it would be our Land as our Land there's, and be one and the same people, with the same rights and powers as United States!
The Only Problem is the Way Trump is going about it... Making a Mockery of the Situation, turning it into a Joke... That is the Problem, not that We offered, just the way it was done...
@@randyross5630 what if they ask Canada instead?
Uhhhhh...we are on first tribal nations land. That was illegally taken
We need to work together to make the world a better place ..
Ah, I recall the times when the American leader had some concept of the obscene amounts of soft power the nation has and were not rambling like a maniac about invasions and annexations. Oh, those were good times.
Eisenhower and Bush 1, presidents with gravitas from real war duty... now we have grafting game show hosts
Was that when the average Senate age was lower?
And yet at the end of the upcoming four years the U.S. will have expanded to include Greenland and Canada. These are the good old days.
@deadeye4520 Doubtful. Unless you're ready to pay the cost in lives and material to take those places and hold them. I doubt Americans have the stomach for that anymore.
Where does the quest for US "security" end and how far are they willing to go for it at the rest of the worlds expense?
North America.
@@deadeye4520 is that why you annexed a bunch of pacific islands? and went to war all over asia, north africa and the middle east?
@ No, a completely different mindset is governing U.S. foreign policy now. The U.S. doesn't want to fight wars all over the world. China, Russia, and Iran are in charge of the middle east now. The U.S. will be working toward it's own defense, and NOT trying to be the world's policemen.
Crazy times, crazy talk.
yeh the last 48 hours of people talking like all this is reasonable is mind blowing
Panama is not a ‘basket case’
The people of Greenland are not ‘poor’. They have a longer life expectancy than the USA.
Sucotra is an ecological preserve, it is protected and would kill several unique species if developed for military use.
Other than getting everything wrong, this was an interesting video.
Question: how does this man make a living?
It’s entertaining. Like fan fiction for geopolitics.
Pretty accurate lol
Isn't Greenland entirely subsidized by Denmark? They couldn't survive without external funding.
@@FurkanCemTurfanda regardless, its percapita income places it solidly in the ‘middle/upper middle’ income bracket. Whether it got its money from resources, tourism, Denmark or martians, it’s not poor.
😂
Huh, canarian here. We were never occupied during ww2, seeing as Spain was neutral during that time. When/How did the US control them during ww2?
I believe he misspoke and meant the Azores.
As he said, that's the genius of American imperialism. Nobody notices when a country is occupied, not even the USA 😂🎉
Let's hope president Cheeto isn't stupid enough to change that.
He meant some other islands some where.
@@deadeye4520 @ASDeckard He mentioned both the Azores and Canarian Islands, which are two groups that form part of the Macronesian Archipelago. Both groups where never occupied by the US, seeing as both Portugal and Spain where neutral in WW2.
There was a planned operation to set up airbases in the Azores, but nothing ever came from it - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Alacrity
Just thought id ask what he meant, but I guess he misspoke.
Trumps handling of Danmark and Greenland have generated a lot of bad Will, but it means that the greenlanders want to stay in the kingdom. Good job Donald
Lol nice cope. They are considering a independence referendum right now you are EXACTLY wrong. 😂
Uh, yeah. They were already unhappy with Denmark. If you look at the last couple decades of their local politics it's fairly obvious they'd prefer to be our territory.
Which is apparently what President Trump had already done when he made the offer.
Bro come out of your silo😂greenlanders welcomed Donnny t Jr like a hero the Danes are cruel overseers the locals hate them Greenlanders will come around they know if we don't own them. China and Russia will make a move for it and those people will lose there way of life.
@@listener523 i wonder what us will offer that denmark wont. I dont see americans being happy if greenlanders as part of us get free healthcare, the worlds nicest and most luxurious prison, large sosial support programmes
@@dennisaskeland7603 Yeah not to mention free education. All the way from preschool to university...
It's time for Europe and North America to ditch the USA as much as possible.
Yes, ditch their #1 democratic trading partner…seems likely …and you probably meant South America… genius comment.
@@bill9540 what kind of a partner threatens you constantly with economic sanctions and military action? If the US keeps up with this type of "humor" it will find itself quite lonely very quickly. No, most of the world doesn't find amusing being belittled and threatened.
@@bill9540 I believe he meant the other north american countries, like Canada and Mexico
@@MarkusHelgason Quite possibly…but seeing that BOTH Countries are VERY heavily dependent on USA trade, it’s a highly skeptical proposal. And, who will step in and assume their trade products so their own Country doesn’t suffer an economic collapse? If China, then recall that China’s Belt and Road Initiative has proven one thing, it is that infrastructure improvements (the typical manner of China’s policy) come LOADED with Sovereign Debt which Countries are nearly universally unable to afford. Nearly every Country falls behind in payments and China’s recourse is taking possession of the asset. The comment is lacking any economic credibility.
Most of europe don't follow freedom of speech the right to bare arms just to name a few. Obviously not all of europe is following the French German and English in their far left governments. Most Europeans are surfs thinking they're free. The far left is losing power so go ahead and leave and we'll just be more friends who align more with the US like Poland and the Baltics to name a few.
the irony of (literally) burning in flames while threatening to conquer foreign lands, has same serious roman empire vibes.
Are you blaming Biden for the flames?
Near the Canary Islands is Western Sahara. When US recognized Western Sahara as a Moroccan territory in exchange of Morocco recognizing Israel, I always thought the US could have at least also secured a perpetual lease for a couple of bases there. Western Sahara is near enough the Gibraltar Strait and would have given the US a permanent forward force projection base in North Africa too. But the US seems to prioritize Israeli interests more than theirs these days.
That's what happens when we let Israel buy our politicians
There's no real naval power in that area that would challenge the US.
The Royal Navy and the French are both in NATO. Russia is locked up by Turkey and Denmark and Iceland. China is locked up by Singapore.
So I'm sure they were offered that base during negotiations.
They just won't have any use for it.
(but it would be a pain to supply logistics to, so you're literally better off without an extra base)
We already have over 128 military installations overseas. Enough already
Morocco is to this day a major US ally, and more importantly on Morocco's side they consider the US a critical ally. If we need a base in the area I'm sure they would be happy to let us pay a low enough lease for one. We didn't close our WW2 era naval base there until 1977. We also opened several Cold War airbases in the nation, one of which became their largest international airport after we left.
Trump has made the mistake of believing that all Canadians are like Trudeau. You want a fight, we'll give it to you.
Your military is literally under our militaries command structure. You literally answer to Biden right now, and only Trudeau if he asks nicely and is allowed command for a day. It defaults to America though.
Although in the fairest trade in the world, the US can also lend out American assets to the Canadian PM. Trudeau was given command of an element of F-22's to shoot down some of the Chinese spy balloons, which Biden did not have to do and could have just commanded them on his own without Canada having any say, because Canada does not have airspace, it's just extra American airspace, but it was nice of him to give Trudeau some shine since it was over your nation.
In theory we could invade Canada with the Canadian military. It's the perfect ploy: you'd never see it coming.
You and what F-22s?
Same as the Chinese: if the US treats them as enemies, they will be its enemies.
USA and Denmark gos back to 1783 ..Denmark is small but has always been by ❤ and by mind been a good friend to USA we are family
Life is becoming more like Professional Wrestling every day, I can’t believe it has come to taking Greenland. If I wake up and see that Hulk Hogan has been nominated US Secretary of Defense, I will move to Mars.
I'm from Denmark, if Trump proceeds with his plan I hope this alliance will end. What kind of ally does that to you, how long before a moron like Trump announces a "special military operation".
I still think Greenland should call his bluff and open the bidding at 1 trillion USD in gold.
Yep,
Definitely in *GOLD!*
None of that Trashy USD 🔥🔥
Make it 10 trillion (the resources are worth a lot!)
@@bernardvc5820 Agreed. Got to at least think about inflation and increased worth of the resources that's coming over the next decade.
I guess D.r. Evil is out of the running !!!
The US will just take it for 0 USD
If USA actually helps Ukraine to win, then it is likely Russia will lose their Naval power due to the breakup and loss of naval ports.
What Ukraine needs to win is an order of magnitude higher than what the West is capable of producing without going into partial military economies. Even if we wanted to give them millions of drones we lack the capability
What naval ports? Russia hasn't had access to naval infrastructure since the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union unless you are talking Sevastopol Marine Trade Port which they seized as part of the Crimean Peninsula seizure in 2014 which gave them access to Sevastopol once more.
@@AndrewinAusRussia never lost sevastopol
@@RAT7163 They had a lease on it, not exactly the same as owning it in exchange for reduction in energy prices. I perhaps misspoke in saying lost access. Invading the Crimea so as to null and void that arrangement (as well as gain territory) wasn't exactly being a good neighbour.
What people don't grasp yet is that Russia has defeated NATO and the collective West (Emotions betray objective rationale)
Russia dominates the Arctic, and always will. With this, they and China (Eurasia) will control the North East Sea Route, the INSTC, and the BRI! The three most important Maritime, rail, and land networks of the future.
Eurasia... With commodities, tech, industrial, military might, and trade options will be too strong for the US to compete with in the future!
China, with Russia, are also rapidly easing the West out of Africa and becoming a dominant force.
Indeed, these US/Trump measures... That seems? to be expansionist are infact protectionist from Eurasia completely overwhelming the Western market!
Russia will become as strong as ever, Europe is becoming weaker than ever... which is why the US needs to essentially make it a colony, whilst also consolidating the M East. Both of which they are doing and will ultimately use to service the US treasury and its debt!
I know the hate is coming, but I'm a realist, not an imperialist ideolog!
Most of the territories mentioned have nothing to do with security of the American homeland. Power projection is offensive not defensive.
Its about the security of cheap oil prices, thats what truly matters to voters
Soft power is less expensive and more effective in the long run. Non judicious use of hard power is stupid.
Great take on the situation. I think how America has handle its global affairs since WW2 is key reason it is why America has become so great. If it starts too think it can take over other counties through invasion or economic force, it will be no better Russia or China. It will then lose global trust and influence in which the US has spent so much time building up and developing over the years. Remember every counties independents and self governance is paramount. This is what the great American experiment is based on. The US has a good thing going, don't wreck it.
There’s a lot of times that I disagree with Peter like when he tries to say that the Chinese navy is insignificant that’s absolutely absurd, but this video was spot on.
I voted for trump and generally like his foreign policy itbcan be a bit course but it makes sense even in dealing with nato. But wtf is going now with Greenland and Panama they are our allies and have been for the most part compliment with our deals. It like he is unessacerially stirring the pot. Why? Does he know something we don't or has he lost his mind he has always been over the top but it was directed at our problems. This is nonsense.
Sort your sh*t at home before you lot starting planting flags in other people's gardens especially friendly allies. Absolute co*k wombles.
…and now Greenland / Denmark no longer can agree to any new US activity on Greenland (by the US state or private enterprises) - and also have to reconsider the agreement for the US Pituffik / Thule base…
GDP per capita in Greenland is $57,116 according to Wikipedia, which is very much on the high end, up there with Sweden, Germany, and Canada. And its Gini is only 33.9, so that's not likely an issue with the mean.
So the Russian are right then if one country feels the need to grab someone else lands under security concern.
He's not talking about invading anyone dummy. Greenland and Canada will almost certainly become part of the US over time in some capacity for economic and security purpose. Whether that's joining or essentially becoming an open border entity, it seems inevitable. Greenland natives in particular would have a good deal hitching up to the US in terms of development.
Is there a difference between talking about buying land and using force to take land?
@@Jack-_-HOne is a voluntary transaction and the other isn’t. Greenland being bought, or more likely being bought off, is much less violent than Russia willing to create a land connection to Crimea through the barrel of a gun.
@Jack-_-H in a press conference Trump did not rejected the possibility to use Forces talking about Panama.However Imperialisme 1.0 Vs Imperialism 2.0,USA can do both.
Correct
Hmm so what’s the difference between Russia trying to take Ukraine and the US going after greenland?
Trump is talking about it & Putin is doing it.
Whether or not it is done peacefully
The US already has a Military presence in Greenland. Why do they need the whole country?
To look more impressive on the map.
@@ASDeckardto strip it off its mineral wealth. Rare metals and minerals are abundant there. Its basically the new Iraq and you make up some sh*t to invade because a Russian shallow got blown off its migration course and land in Greenland. Reason for invasion from uncle sam.
So Trump can say he got a huge new territory
I don't know about you all, but my mother taught me not to take things that don't belong to me. We already have treaties & stations all over the world. No excuse to land grab like Russia, Germany, Japan etc did during WW2. Inexcuseable.
Greenland's GDP/capita is ~US$60,000.
That's higher than the UK's. Weird definition of "Extreeemely poor".
Denmark subsidies
founding fathers would be disappointed in their country today.
Why? In what way?
Duh. They said only White landowning men of good character should be citizens. They would be disappointed back in the 50s.
The small weak state is a global superpower lmaooo
@@wussrestbrook1200 never said it was weak
@eberts0604 because they were men of the enlightment and did not support imperialism. You don't know your own history? Bullying neighbours and allies is turning the US back to the 19th century.
People in Greenland are not poor Zeihan.....
Considering how much he travels, I suspect most people are poor compared to him. haha
He’s kind of a liberal elite to a certain extent. We all have our blind spots.
They are utterly poor without subsidy from Denmark. Pretty sure that's what he means. Resources, ability to provide for self is very poor.
Yes they are
@@Sakufighternot really. He is an hawk though and most of his forecasts and predictions are usually way off. Amusing but you wouldn't want to base your foreign policy on it.
Re Africa : if the US decided to "project power" into Africa the screams of racism within the US political cesspool would defy all belief.
And as I rapidly approach 69 my threshold of 'all belief' has been recalibrated many times.
simple and to the point, no empty words around. Like it!
Wow, awesome video. This topic needs a regular checkin from Peter.
If Malaysia and Indonesia merged, it would control ALL the sea lanes from S Asia to E Asia. This could make them strong, but it would also encourage foreign countries to control their political process.
Who gets to run the merged entity? Indonesia has always regarded itself as the big brother. Is Malaysia with its 9 rulers ready to swear fealty to Indonesia? Then there's Singapore right smack in the middel of the two.
You haven't heard of the Konfrontasi (an undeclared war between Malaysia and Indonesia) and Five Power Defence Arrangements, have you? The arrangement of UK, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, and Malaysia was created to deal with the regional threat, i.e. Indonesia, directed at Singapore and Malaysia. Though the tensions subsided, the Arrangement still exists.
A geo-political analyst that can't pronounce Marianas and doesn't seem to understand that Guam is part of the Mariana's Islands. Northen Marianas is a governmental construct under the territorial auspice of Guam - not a separate strategic target for "imperialist ambitions". Guam is literally 20 miles or so from Rota (Southernmost Northern Marianas Islands). I have been to all of them...
If you as an American considered going to Denmark, i would wait 😂.
Just say your from Canada.
i mean, it`s sort of a good thing that i`m not on the Patreon thing. i can watch a week old video and compare it today`s situation.
thank`s dude
I am seventy-eight years old and for my entire lifetime I have perceived America's role in the world being similar to the kid in the schoolyard who tries to unify the vulnerable kids against the schoolyard bullies. While there is occasional friction, the exchange of knowing we will be behind them if the going gets tough creates enough good will that we will have support if we need it. Trump appears to want to be the bully. I don't think he understands the difference between friends and partners compared to subjugated servants.
We Do Not Have Europe's Support! They are just using US and will Drop US at the Earliest Convenance! We have the Anglo-American World if we can Take it from the EU, the EU that eyes it and Causes Trouble all over it... They are the ones behind our Political Mess, they Seek to Collapse and Replace US! The 1st thing the EU did was try to replace the Dollar as World Reserve Currency with the Euro, they are Not our Friends, they are Not our Allies, Wake Up! It is Europe! And World Domination has been their Game for Centuries!
Trump doesn't understand the concept of friends at all. He has never had any. Neither has Elon for that matter. These are two massive narcissists who cannot reason beyond their own personal needs and wants. Everyone and everything else is a tool for them to achieve their personal goals - which may be as simple as a small ego massage.
And the group lead by america butchered who ever they perceived as getting closer to the big bully. Severely clamping down their development and killing millions. I used to pray for times like this
Europe has been acting like bullies and not friends for decades
@@dingus6317 hogwash.
The Australian Financial broke a story this week that an Australian geologist holds the mining rights to the largest rare earths deposit and that he has been briefing Trump for years. He refuses to sell to the Chinese but is frustrated by the Danes, Trump is determined that the mine will open and not have any Chinese influence.
Could you provide a link to the article? That would be very kind of you.
Doesn’t acknowledge Canada
Because its so absurd its not gonna happen
This is the 3rd of Jan. Trump with Canada happened after that.
Because Canada is a different story: that really would be akin to an 80s Wall Street takeover, hollowing out social programs and safety nets, privatize what can be, so he can fund tax cuts for rich folk, etc.
@@Zhengrui0 I don't think many Americans realise that Canadians would be prepared to kill US soldiers to defend their land. They don't want to be American.
Canada will capitulate a few months after tariffs. Canadians talk a good game but just like Americans whenever the economy goes down they give in.
How about the new imperialism of leading by example? Demanding supplication isn't going to end well.
No entity involved is going to do anything to resist the US
From the Oil wars to the Lithium wars…
Peter is obviously not horrified by American imperialism. Hmmm
Sorry, Pete: greenlander are NOT poor; they have the same living standards as Danes and the same benefits: free healthcare, free education, free unemployment benefits, so - at it again. Do your homework!
AND - I promise you that if Trump takes Greenland the Danes would be pretty hostile to the US. Remember we have been strong allies and have lost soldiers in various US wars!
Greenland extremely poor? May be but with free healthcare and education.
Given what you laid out here…how do you explain what is actually happening: threatening Denmark and Canada. This seems to just destroy good will for no benefit.
Just like Mussolini taking on Ethiopia, Trump is looking for big stuff on the world map he can put his name to.
Explanation? Trump (and many of his followers) does not understand how the world works, think he can bully them into whatever he wants. They are stupid.
art of the deal man
@@xupac1379 well, I think it’s time this behaviour is reciprocated appropriately. I don’t negotiate with my toddler when she throws a temper tantrum. I don’t see why nato allies should negotiate with this child every time he cries.
@@xupac1379 Which was ghost written as a lot of bullshit about a serial bankrupt who actually went broke owning a casino and single handedly folded a national football league not to mention fleecing students out of millions. That's America's hero.
Well laid out points, summarized eloquently. Thank you Peter. 👌
Last line is chilling.
Just a reminder that Peter very accurately predicted the Trump victory in 2024
yes......peter the mouthpiece for the deep state.
I still feel if trump did this, he is no better than Putin
Nobody said that Trump is better than Putin. People admire Trump because he is actively working to make America great again for Americans. Not foreigners. Unlike a lot of rulers in a lot of countries including those that Peter Zeihan named.
If Greenland joined peacefully, you'd hate Trump and frankly, Americans anyway. It's not just about Trump. That's the truth of the matter because you'd be bitter about the US gaining power. Interesting take given the US already has a military base there, this seems to be more of a long term play if the planet is truly warming like many claim. The bitterness comes from you realizing this is actually a smart move if the US could pull it off.
@@Quest3Games threatening Greenland, Panama, Mexico, and Canada accomplishes precisely the opposite. Now our neighbors hate us and secretly plot against us. Not so great after all.
the problem is not so much whether or not he is better or not than putin, it is that he is infinitely more stupid than putin. and that is quite a feat.
@@ursodermatt8809 suffering from TDS still?
I think they will find that the American appetite for aggressive war is zero.
Muricans are not tired of war. They are tired of losing wars.
Not necessary if you can simply threaten, bully and subvert. Have you ever heard of the term “Finlandisation”? Coined during the Cold War for what the USSR did to Finland - they didn’t actually invade it or install a puppet government as they did elsewhere in Eastern Europe, but they rendered it “neutral” - ie unable to pursue any policy that displeased the USSR (like joining the EU). That’s what the US will do - former allies will become hostages.
A majority of the American public can always be propagandized into supporting an aggressive war under the pretext of self-defense and national security. The techniques for manufacturing consent are well established.
Until they see success from it and they'll fall in line. Then Canadians drive down to the mid west during summer and spark numerous wildfires to engulf vast areas. Dont believe it's possible? Look at the video of a tesla flame thrower attached to a Drone. If a spark from a train can start a forest fire imagine a Pyro kamikaze Drone
@@gargoyles9999 dafaq am i reading
Aspects that have been mentioned elsewhere that I wish had been addressed is talk of growing Chinese presence/interests in Panama including the 2 HK controlled ports and switching from recognizing Taiwan to not. And what this might mean in terms of consequence for the US if China sabotages the canal or something along those lines that would deny US usage for a period during a war.
And for Greenland, we used to have 10k troops in Greenland during the Cold War, and so it seemed like it had been useful/important for strategy vs. Russia in the past. Did that change with technology? What about the rare minerals and such there that might be valuable/useful as alternate supply lines? Denmark already is inclined to get rid of Greenland, so why would they be offended?
My sister was in Cuba when Obama opened up travel and she found the population extremely friendly and deathly afraid of their government, they all loved Americans! As for the income of Greenland and Iceland they make more then I did working for a major manufacturer in the states. Although their cost of living is higher then in the US I don't believe you can call them extremely poor!
I guess no mention of Canada.
Not yet on RUclips.
Because Trump literally said he wasn’t going to use military force, which means he’s *not* serious.
no one wants canada
CANCEL NAFTA 2.0
Bring 100% of American automotive manufacturing careers home to America where they belong
Canada, we love you.
Canada, your family
Canada stand on your own town feet …. We need equity in our trade.
America first
@@camerbot I beg to differ Ivan, Canada is a goldmine in natural resources.
When people tell you who they are, believe them.
yes, Hitler for example
Peter, while I understand that you're making a case against US imperialism I still find your commentary lacking due to not raising the ethical aspect nor the importance of the western principal of a " rule of law" based international order and what that means for freedom as well as prosperity.
For me as a European and a Swede, and probably other citizens of smaller nations these values and rule of law is what we need to retain our freedom and sovereignty. It seems to me that these are no longer important as it doesn't even reach the commentary in the ongoing discourse of land grabs? And this regardless if you're Russia, China or even the US.
Exactly
Agreed….thank you. Building alliances is far more productive.
Hey zain, first one here! Talk about the palisades fire in LA.
why? a bunch of rich people facing karma isn't newsworthy
@@servethesongs🤡
If you're new here, look in the top left-hand side of the screen in a Zeihan video. Since November/December last year all Peter Zeihan videos are a week in delay because of a move to Patreon.
@@servethesongsHow is that karma? Just because they're rich doesn't necessarily mean that they've done anything wrong that deserves a comeuppance.
@@KRAMITDFROGalso a bunch of reguler people got hurt to.
Dear Peter, Though I see your point that we don't need to take any of these places your dialog comes off sounding like T's Nazi-like ramblings about American expansion by force if necessary are somehow normal and should be considered. This man appears to be losing his marbles and may be poised to take us all down with him. Please don't even attempt rationalize this megalomaniacal insanity. God save us all.
What are you even talking about?
@@thefool1086
read it again. you might be a fool, but it is not that difficult to understand.
What bullshit....
Coolest part about offering to buy Greenland is that they are declaring independence and writing their own constitution now.
Nice info, and not a single piece of truth in it
How come you all are so badly informed in the US?
Independence story is a domestic policy pipe dream in Greenland like abortion is in the US.
Always talking about it, but no real change over 60 years. You could have an abortion in 1975 if you wanted, and you can in 2025 if you want
Independence is a subject for elections to divide. Not a viable option unless you want to find a sponsor with no demands in return
Perhaps like Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Guam etc. would like to be independent from American imperialism?
No. They are fine. Do you think imperialism is a mean word? I guess it is if your country can't say it about themselves.
There is a minority movement for independence.
You're playing mental gymnastics to try to justify a land grab.
You gotta love this guy for proffering such matter-of-fact conjecture on the subject of imperialism
Spot on. Thanks, Zeihan.
Considering Trump’s obsession over the Southern Border, Panama makes sense.
Greenland less so, but Denmark’s involvement only lasts as long as they’re not independent… and Greenland has been pushing *hard* for independence.
You know there are a few countries between Panama and the US Border right? Even if the US took it over migrants would still try to cross into the US from Mexico but now more migrants would cross into Panama and try and get into the US from there.
If you want to prevent migrants crossing into the US from Mexico then the best way is to help those countries to combat crime and smuggling not threaten to invade. Invasions always spawn large amounts of refugees.
@ The issue with Mexico is that Mexico *doesn’t want* US forces ‘helping’ the Mexicans.
Mexico isn’t really cooperating with the US. At all.
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Panama Canal isn’t actually a big land route due to the Darien Gap- it just now allows US forces to attack cartels from the Southern direction.
There are regional independence setups used in some places. Isn't Puerto Rico quasi independent btw? So for Greenland Trump really should negotiate with the people that live on Greenland. If he can offer them a better deal then what Denmark does they just may take it. Trump IS a deal maker after all. So, small chance but not impossible to pull off.
@@michaelpettersson4919 The question shouldn’t be whether it’s possible, (it is) but whether it’s desirable.
Given the long and never ending succession of unmitigated success stories in the US’s foreign intervention sphere over the last 20 years, could there possibly be some negative effects?
Making a bonfire of alliances carefully crafted since the 1940’s may have downsides.
@@michaelpettersson4919 Yes, Puerto Rico is what is understood as a protectorate The are independent with the protection of the US. Though the US does push some influence on it, but generally aren't too forceful about it, in most cases. That is kind of one of the ideas for Greenland that has been discussed. Panama is more about correcting what is perceived as a mistake and economic and military play.
When you elect a batshit crazy mafia boss all bets are off. Count on the "very, very stable genius" doing something very, very stupid.
"When it comes to doing things in Greenland, they have never once said 'NO!' "
Trump: I want Greenland.
Denmark: NO!
Up until then. XD
Keep in mind that you need 1 soldier for every 7 citizens to effectively run an occupation. Greenland has less than 60k people on it which means you can occupy the whole island with just 10k US soldiers. That’s very easy to manage and do and we have already had that number of personnel there during the Cold War, the infrastructure is already there.
I feel like Greenland could eventually be overrun with American citizens and overrule their state of government. The problem is that the US would have to then administer an entire landmass of permafrost
nearly the size of a continent.
America literally already administers a continent, including a massive frozen hellscape of permafrost and some of the tallest, and most remote, mountains in the world.
@ At the bare minimum required. Alaska is still considerably more isolated and less attention is paid to it than a state like Wyoming or Montana.
Vae Americae, res publica mortua est
Yep
American voter: hell yeah!
Quomodo existimas? Trump non est Caesar et isolationismus non est imperialismus, sed Zeihan est stultus.
Denmark had higher per capita casualties in Afghanistan than the US and never even had a public debate about surrendering to the Taliban.
Greenland receives massive subsidies from Denmark + free healthcare & special transport to Danish hospitals if needed + education system etc.
They have the great social issues and the young men posing with MAGA hats were some of them - one even a career criminal. Who else had the time to pose with Donald Jr. on his 2 hour visit during daytime?
Greenland is slightly overrepresented in the Danish parliament with 2 MP’s and very left wing always voting for a social democrat PM - thus the Democrats will get all the votes and if Greenland were to become a state then 2 more for the Democrats.
Agreed, this wasn't part of the platform people voted for. With that said (we can if we want) is a pretty strong position for negotiation. I also can't forget the company he keeps. This agian may be smarter than we know. Everyone is thinking of resources and land mass. I'm thinking ai data centers with nuclear power generation 🤔 The small population could literally be made insanely rich for very little. Low population means nuclear power goes up without issue. The weather is perfect for cooling. Yeah 😊
"No new wars" 😂😂😂
And wholesale self imposed destruction of US alliances. Imperialism isn’t working well for Russia, it’s not the sort of comparison US normally seeks
Fafo.
Trump can grab Greenland today, but the cost to America long term will be very high.
Funny you think nuclear. Iceland has practically free energy due to geothermal. Why bother with expensive nuclear facilities if you can get it easier out of the ground
Going by the comments I don't think most of the commenters paid attention to what Zeihan actually said.
What? Commenters on RUclips NOT understanding the video they commented on? I've never seen that! lol
When the US left the Azores, and just after they built 100s of houses, it caused a huge negative economic impact for the Islands. There is a huge ghost town near the former base. So if it so important, why did they leave. When I was there on my kast visit, the Chinese were interested in the base.
It will be interesting to see if the Azores are remotely interested in allowing the Chinese any sort of official, long term base. I find it unlikely, but I could be wrong.
I would not categorize Cuban resentment of the US as “irrational”. Cuban history provides enough justification for hostility.
It does not at all. Cuba would have been more propsperous had they not irrationally launched their shot for no damn reason
@@Cecilia-ky3uw I suppose reasonable people (or bots) can interpret the island's history of colonialism and corruption as seems appropriate to them.
@@JoeJohnston-taskboy In other words, 'I'm not going to say anything but vague shit others can project on while giving you nothing to work with so you can't respond'.
Peter, you should do a video on how Trump’s imperialism will reduce the price of eggs. Remember to give us all the historical context as well as the oh-so-nuanced thinking of the incoming Trump administration regarding the cross-section of geopolitics and grocery prices.
(I’m being sarcastic, of course.)
Most of America's eggs are exported, to the EU specifically, while we import basically no eggs. Starting a trade war with Europe might unironically lower the price of eggs, as long as Mexico stays on side (they are our only real egg import partner: everyone else is a taker).
Given the USA’s appalling record on the environment, I very much that the Greenlanders would vote to join the USA. And I hope that decent Americans would express their outrage if Trump’s rhetoric begins to move towards reality. I can’t believe that Congress, even with a Republican majority, would authorize the use of force for an invasion of Greenland. It would put us in the same moral category as Russia, China, Venezuela (currently threatening to take over Guiana), and Argentina.
Surprised no mention of Bermuda in this. The US previously had a Naval base there and would seem ideal location to have one but it closed a while back (in the 70s if I remember correctly).
In 1950s Guatemala and Iran were imperialist objectives. At the end end of WWII Churchill asked FDR to take over Middle East control because Britain was war broke. Guatemala was small and easy to take over. American imperialism is alive and not so well, and we are getting spread out too thin. Imperialism has certain objectives: 3Gs God, Glory, Gold.
The people of the US need firstly to be determined. Determined to act and succeed in US and world interests. We are challenged in so many ways, but are resourced, resourceful and have many friends and admirers to tap. May God Bless Us as we strive to do His will.
LOL - I don't think God has a special fondness for the USA or the American people. If such a God actually exists, his love would probably encompass all people on this earth - regardless of their gender, sexuality, skin color and nationality.
@jorgenlarsen775 No preference expressed here. Jesus states explicitly He wants all, he leaves no one behind.
Observation shows different groups aspire to and achieve or fail differently both in national achievements and achieving quality of life for themselves and others.
The US is among the best at this. It's understanding of what values and effort to requirec achieve to goodness for it's people is shared widely with others. Justice, Safety, Markets, Administration, Fairness, Productivity , are not perfect, but among the best in the world. Pax Americana is not perfect, but it is real. People like the former Soviet Bloc and Ukraine fight, die and revolt to achieve it. Powers like UK, France, Japan, Turkey, Israel who have alternatives ally or associate with it. Hong Kong, Ukraine, Tibet lament loss of connection to it. Those who fall under Russian/Chinese/N. Korean/Iranian rule in the future will feel benefit of the loss of American influence in their well being most when it happens.
The US may not follow beneficial Christian precepts perfectly. But observation shows when it does often follow beneficial Christian precepts, blessing accrue widely and generosly. Pax Americana.
@@lawrenceralph7481 I assume you believe that nonsense yourself. But you really can't have been around the world much if you think the US is a model for quality of life.
The Global Social Index measures quality of life in a wide range of areas. Denmark is number 1 on the list, followed by Norway, Finland, Iceland and Sweden. These are all Nordic countries. Christianity plays a very small role in these countries.
The US is number 29 - far behind most European countries. But admittedly the US is definitely ahead of countries like Russia, China and North Korea. But that's also a poor basis for comparison.