Rockstar Logic: Our Cunning Stunts *race cars* are fast around a track so we'll make our *race cars* SLOWER than normal cars because we believe that game balance should never exist in a game :D I swear Rockstar, you sometimes make yourselves out to be incredibly unintelligent.
Daleks DarkAlex45 oh yea I do! I loved them when they were first put out! Then they got slower since they fixed them for a while. Now they are even slower! I'm pissed off about this because I have all three of the cunning stunts super cars and they cost and excess of 2 million, so it's like wtf rockstar!?
Matt Balok "Hasnt affected me" Well it wouldnt affect you if youre used to crash into walls but facts are facts and is 0.9 seconds slower making it even worse than what it was before. Nobody cares how skilled you are if the only victories that you can brag about are about beating 12 year olds in a straight line.
Anyone else actually like the old, old RE-7B (and tyrus, ETR1) the most? With the insane actual racecar traction. Yes it was annoying the 3 made basically every other supercar irrelevant, however the people that care about that stuff and do racing events would probably put rules in place anyway for car selection. And random races with catchup almost negates car choice anyway. I just thought it was something new and fresh to the game, driving mechanics we hadnt seen before. Only downside was the 147.0mph RE-7B with stock tyres, but id still take all 3 of them back to their "OP" state in a heart beat.
I personally loved the unnerfed versions of Cunning Stuns supers, they felt fresh and absolutely, ridiculously fast, crazy, such a joy to drive they were. Didn't really care about their balance since I've got a racing community to ban said cars in events if it's needed. Hate all the nerfs that were introduced to those cars, they felt so damn raw and fast... With how much they cost, it's absolutely fucking stupid to make them that slow and charge so much. We're almost at the level of Lynx's ridiculousness.
Just watch, loads of people will sell their RE-7Bs and in a few months time, R* will release another update making it the fastest again, so everybody goes and buys it once more!
If only they had access to real-world testing of their actual values instead of solely going by stat changes. If only they had someone with information they could utilise to better balance their vehicle tweaking. If only they watched a super sweet, Geordie male, that puts his heart and soul into getting information throughly tested, taking countless hours and then released for us all to see. If only they had a Broughy.
well this sucks, the re7b is a track car. it should be the fastest it terms of lap time regardless, this thing isn't even street legal hence the fact it doenst have a license plate. way to suck r* first gunrunning was a giant miss minus the new cars and now this. what's next the npcs get more op with there ridiculous perfect aim?
UE HOFMANN 52 games I want to play? I play gta 5, it's bullshit that they can advertise a car as being the best pricing it as such. then changing it making it the 11th best. or are you really that dense. I got 1007 wins you probably have 75.
As mentioned in the video, for the new top 10 simply go here: ruclips.net/video/P0wpd06NaPQ/видео.html and remove the ETR1 and RE-7B from the top 12 list there. I'll also take this comment to give my thoughts on this - firstly it's a shame that all cars are slower with this, but specifically the Itali GTB Custom and GP1 which have always suffered from not having enough downforce. Now they're even worse. When it comes to the RE-7B, to me it only ever made sense with its old OP 57 second lap time. That was the only point at which the car was performing in a realistic way. A Le Mans Group C car should be ridiculously fast and all the Cunning Stunts supers should be much faster than standard super cars. But not putting those into their own class is what caused the issue with having cars that fast. They made all other supers redundant. When it was nerfed the first time it was still OP on a lot of tracks but at least it wasn't 57 second lap time levels of OP. However it then lost some of the charm of the car itself. It was just another fast car. Nothing special. With this second nerf the RE-7B is even slower, and for a car like that to be slower than some other standard supercars makes no sense. It's a thoroughbred racecar. But it had already lost the point of the car entirely after the first nerf so from that perspective not a lot has changed. Since the first nerf the RE-7B has never gone as quickly as it should from a realistic standpoint. The big loss with this new nerf are all the other downforce cars. ETR1, Tyrus, Itali GTB Custom, GP1, Specter Custom, Comet Retro Custom, and especially the Omnis are now all much slower than they were, and these were all cars that could've done with a performance increase, not decrease. At least the supers class is a bit more balanced at the top since the Tempesta has awful top speed and the Zentorno is 2 tenths off with a great price. Nero Custom is still the dominant all-rounder though. What must also be kept in mind is the money spent on these cars that have now been made worse. Would that money have been spent had they performed this way from a start? A bit shady perhaps when shark cards are involved.
How is this not fraud? Seriously? I spent actual money to buy these cars based upon performance research, and then they up and change and totally devalue them.
I was hoping my Itali GTB Custom would get more competitive with the Nero Custom that everyone and their mother uses, not further away. What's the point in having so many cars that aren't remotely competitive with others? "Hey everyone, just use the same car for racing, maybe change only if you've got a pure top speed track with hardly any cornering". To be fair, if I want to race with cars that can be competitive with eachother, I should just go back to Gran Turismo 4. Thanks btw Broughy,
I don't like it one bit. How about a 100% refund for my now redundant race cars? Nope, like fuck R* would do anything like that. I would like to know their reasons for doing it rather than just saying "it was intentional".
I paid 2.5 million for my Tyrus during that first week of Cunning Stunts. $2,500,000 hard earned cash and then another couple hundred thousand for mods/upgrades. Now its utterly useless.
*Players:* "Hey, how come some cars are getting slower in Custom versions? Give them a better downforce value already, it'd take 5 minutes to change that with a file editor!" *Rockstar:* "What about instead we reduce the effect of downforce even more and make the spoilers useful on them, but not even nearly enough to compensate the nerf of the downforce so the Custom versions are even slower than they used to be?" *Players:* "... FU."
Considering the fact that the game's economy is now based around Shark Cards (real money) and the fact that Rockstar can and will devalue anything you buy on a whim, it doesn't make sense for anyone to spend any real life money on this game, let alone try to spend hours grinding for money in-game, only for you to purchase something expensive and have Rockstar devalue it in the next update. Perhaps they're trying to emulate real life car-buying; the RE-7B and such were last year's models, and now they want to devalue those old models and make people spend their money on the new forthcoming 2017 models. Either way, it's disgusting that this practice exists in a video game. I really have no desire to continue playing this game now that I know that anything I purchase can be completely ruined on the next update. If the future of video games is "Ha, we just made you spend $100 real life money on item1, then we nerfed item1 to get you to spend $150 on item2," I certainly don't want any part of it.
I have no idea why I still watch these teastings, I don't even have a GTAV account anymore, but your content is still very good and the only accurate source
SO happy that I hadn't bought an RE-7B yet... Almost bought it the other night, too. Thanks so much for your videos. Looking forward to seeing where the new cars fall.
Damn it Rockstar! Just before this update I bought the RE-7B thinking it was the fastest car and know they nerfed it. Alongside that they tried to remove modding from GTA 5 (PC) and removed all my money from GTA Online. Is there any limit to their incompetence?
Richard Groenendijk I wouldn't really call removing money you received illegitimately, incompetence. The stuff they're doing with vehicles yes, the way they went about trying to "bite the head off the snake" with OpenIV (instead of working with them to clamp down on Online modding, cos it'll happen with or without OpenIV), totally yes.
EvoBeard Thing is, I didn't receive any modded money, because I am always playing in a solo session or with friends/crew people. But I had 2 million legitimately earned money that was removed. Well at least I wasn't banned for using Discord overlay like someone else was.
Richard Groenendijk Rockstar had nothing to do with mods being illegal on their games. That was all Take Two, their parent company. Rockstar actually talk to Take Two about it, and Rockstar release an FAQ on their forums that Take Two won't take any legal actions against those who mod single player, but they also said it ultimately Take Two's choice of what happens.
imagine this situation: You want the the fastest car in game and because you're broke you buy a shark card to afford a re7b. Now it isn't even in the top 10? Rockstar has fooled us once again
Man the RE-7B used to have a lap time of 57s, but multiple updates and tweaks later, it's gone up to 1:02. I know it wasn't fair, but I miss how amazing it was when it first came out.
It's really pathetic how little Rock* devs seem to know about vehicles. They made Midnight Club, they should know their car stuff. But cars in wrong classes, as well as numerous other issues, this being the latest... they have now killed 2 of my all time favourite cars in the game, the Omnis and the ETR1. Such a shame and disappointment, Rockstar. Those "downforce" cars should be at the top of the supercar pile (even though they should actually be in a totally seperate class altogether, but I don't see them ever changing/adding classes now) and not to mention anyone who bought shark cards to purchase these cars, which are now useless. What a mess.
It would Not be The big of a Deal for Rockstar to just create a new Racing Class .... Racecar or Hypercar class... in this Case so many People spend so much Money for nearly a useless car... iam. Really pissed about that
At least the GP1 isn't horrifically nerfed due to low downforce. So I'm not gonna be butthurt. Never liked the 7B/Tyrus/ETR-1 post nerf (1st nerf that is) Cause a Le Mans car should be OP vs a LaFerrari (Turismo) for example. Not slower, where is the logic?
this is such horseshite. Those of us who aren't regular players, but enjoy racing have spent a fair bit of real money on SharkCards to be able to get these vehicles... I made choices based upon research, and spent money on competitive cars accordingly. RockStar has just effectively stolen my money, and I'm fucking pissed.
I would make a complaint to customer service honestly and ask for a refund. They prob won't refund your real money, but maybe they'll refund your in game money. Although I'm sure somewhere in their terms and conditions is written "subject to change" or "in no way affiliated with." Still worth a shot.
I remember when the Omnis used to be one of the best cars to drive in terms of the challenge to get good on-dirt times out of it. It was honestly one of the most rewarding driving models in the game, and now it's had what, three nerfs? Basically now I'm reduced to taking my Comet out on dirt roads to get a similar feel and that's only from the power and in no way from controlling oversteer.
Unprofessional Gamers yeah the reason why I love the Omnis so much is that not only is it based on arguably the best rally car ever (Audi Quattro) but it behaves like one, massive oversteer, light, and good off road, now nearly all of the redeeming qualities are gone, fuck rockstar.
why do so many people hate the RE-7B? It's a recreation of the 787B, a legendary Le Mans vehicle which was so good, it banned Mazda out of the FIA Racing
Anyone of a re- 7b and hasn't got a shit tone of money I would recommend that you don't just sell it to get the new top cars Rockstar could easily fix this in the future so be smart
as a mostly stunt race racer can't say I've noticed any difference at all, but in broughy we trust. Time to buy my fav Itali in non custom mode, I guess. thanks for what you do
The car only made sense when it had a 57 second lap time since that was more realistic for what it's supposed to be. And then it should have been in it's own class. But it has never had the easiest time of it. Now it's redundant.
Broughy1322 Rockstar listening to whining kids who think their red and black X80 should be the quickest ever. Never mind realism, the intricacies of real racing, and what it takes to make a fast car. Nope, clearly flashy cars should be the quickest, end of story.
Raymo reaper Me too fmj ftw kinda a travesty that many brain dead talentless you tubers claim the fmj isn't a top tier super just because they can't maximize it's potential.
RIP Cunning Stunts.I actually liked these cars before they were 'demolished' by R*But why is a Le Mans car slower than 10 other cars? RIP 57.724 seconds laps..Thank you Broughy for doing this, we could've just raced in a RE-7B and lost to a Turismo R, which we never thought could happen.
Since i've been watching broughy i got way better in racing in general, mostly because i understand now how underrated and important cornering speed is, most people just look at acceleration when they think about getting around corners.
Wow, I'm shocked at the drop, it was just one after another, seeing how much the Tyrus and ETR1 drop, then the RE-7B. Not happy with R*, they should've just increased the lower cars' downforce ratings. I didn't see that drastic of a drop coming.
I remember taking an RE7B up to Vinewood hills being able to drive around moderately sharp corners at nearly top speed, now it's been nerfed fucking twice.
Well, I see what Rockstar did there, trick people to buy these old cars then after awhile, completely trash them to make people buy these new cars. This idea is completely disgusting and not necessary
Man, I miss being able to go like 160-200 MPH in the RE-7B and 811. Of all of the things to remove, they had to remove the glitch that let cars hit realistic top speeds. Bullshit. I know it wrecked competitive racing, but DAMN those were fun times.
Remember those new supers coming out which look very fast and very expensive? Funny how nerfing the downforce supers suddenly makes the new supers seem a lot more appealing. Some of us will sell our nerfed downforce supers to be able to afford them, the rest of us will find money some other way (e.g. shark cards). Then after we've all bought the new supers, R* will fix the downforce supers so everyone who sold them will have to find money (e.g. shark cards) to buy them again.
It was not enough that the top speed sucked for the etr1 compared to the other cars in the top 10 supers class but now it's cornering ability. Man I hope they revert to the post gunrunning downforce and just add the proper values to the gp1, gtb, etc. because only the re7b is remains somewhat competitive from this change
The devs making these decisions must be either complete empty-headed or they do it on purpose to get people spend all their money on the new cars (Just about them SharkCards again). It's such a joke how the cunning stunts vehicles got nerfed again and again so now they're almost useless in any stunt or normal race, lmao. Do you think it's a good idea selling them or just wait till R* changes something again that could make them faster again?! I don't know what else to say about these stupid devs... What the fck is their praised quality assurance doing?
Beastincolt thats a big claim, and.. i doubt that in hands of regular players, they can beat a experiencied one with a slow car hell, i had won against osiris and Turismos with a Bullet
I'm pissed. I own all those cars, used them a lot and knew what they could do or could not do. Now they are strangers to me and all my lap records with those cars are out of reach! Thanks Rockstar for "fixing" something that wasn't broken ...
Nero custom ftw, it's now 3rd fastest lap and 4th in speed!! The x80 isn't too bad either it's 4th in lap times and 3rd in speed! Good thing I have both!
Oh my god this is a tragedy! All of these cars were fan favorites and they have completely destroyed them. It's so typical R* they try and fix something but just ends up destroying it even more. The Itali GTB Custom is now almost 2 seconds slower then the regular Itali GTB. What a joke except it's not funny.
Do you think this will get patched again or at the very least returned to the way it was before? I mean i get what they were trying to do but it clearly didn't work out as intended. Also will you make a support post on this?
It's frustrating that Rockstar adds a new mechanic for vehicles, distribute it unevenly to new vehicles, then make strange changes. Ideally, a complete overhaul of all the vehicles in the game is needed. Add downforce values to all cars, add spoilers to vehicles that are missing them that logically would have an aftermarket spoiler. It's like a series of patchwork ideas implemented poorly at the moment.
I'd love to see how the Comet Retro Custom changed after this update, but there was no testing in the first place and yet again no testing of it in this video even though it had downforce, so I guess I'll never know 😞
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The GP1 is a tale of irony. It's based on a previous record holder for the fastest production car ever made. Now it's at the bottom of this list.
Kola18_97 I love it for its looks and sound
+AdaM Lol, imho it is the ugliest back of the car in gta :D And the second ugliest is 811
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It should be in sports classics
Rockstar Logic: Our Cunning Stunts *race cars* are fast around a track so we'll make our *race cars* SLOWER than normal cars because we believe that game balance should never exist in a game :D
I swear Rockstar, you sometimes make yourselves out to be incredibly unintelligent.
Hey guys remember when the RE7B, ETR1 and the tyrus used to be the best cars?
RIP cunning stunts cars
Daleks DarkAlex45 i 'member
Daleks DarkAlex45 Year after they were released...
Daleks DarkAlex45 oh yea I do! I loved them when they were first put out! Then they got slower since they fixed them for a while. Now they are even slower! I'm pissed off about this because I have all three of the cunning stunts super cars and they cost and excess of 2 million, so it's like wtf rockstar!?
Lol ya the old under one minute club
Stupidest change in this update. Way to ruin the ItaliGTB Custom even more. Even the Ramp Buggy has more Downforce than that thing.
Rockstar Logic.
Dalamo 海 just gotta know how to drive it I don't have a problem with it
Russell White bullshit.
Matt Balok: Did you even watch the video? It's 0.9 seconds slower, no amount of skill is going to make up for that.
Anthony Scott hasn't affected me...
Matt Balok "Hasnt affected me" Well it wouldnt affect you if youre used to crash into walls but facts are facts and is 0.9 seconds slower making it even worse than what it was before. Nobody cares how skilled you are if the only victories that you can brag about are about beating 12 year olds in a straight line.
Anyone else actually like the old, old RE-7B (and tyrus, ETR1) the most? With the insane actual racecar traction.
Yes it was annoying the 3 made basically every other supercar irrelevant, however the people that care about that stuff and do racing events would probably put rules in place anyway for car selection. And random races with catchup almost negates car choice anyway.
I just thought it was something new and fresh to the game, driving mechanics we hadnt seen before. Only downside was the 147.0mph RE-7B with stock tyres, but id still take all 3 of them back to their "OP" state in a heart beat.
I personally loved the unnerfed versions of Cunning Stuns supers, they felt fresh and absolutely, ridiculously fast, crazy, such a joy to drive they were. Didn't really care about their balance since I've got a racing community to ban said cars in events if it's needed. Hate all the nerfs that were introduced to those cars, they felt so damn raw and fast...
With how much they cost, it's absolutely fucking stupid to make them that slow and charge so much. We're almost at the level of Lynx's ridiculousness.
I echo this
Yuggle
Just watch, loads of people will sell their RE-7Bs and in a few months time, R* will release another update making it the fastest again, so everybody goes and buys it once more!
SMSmith1990 Exactly why I'm keeping mine. It's like a stock market out here. lol
Blake Rincon you mean the stock market we were supposed to have since day 1?
It's almost criminal when you think of the people that may have bought shark cards to buy an RE-7B!
Bloody Squirrels Potential class action lawsuit.
Congrats on 125k! You really deserved it :)
Thanks! :)
When you buy 7 Million $ worth for three cars to have them get nerfed... TWICE.
If only they had access to real-world testing of their actual values instead of solely going by stat changes. If only they had someone with information they could utilise to better balance their vehicle tweaking. If only they watched a super sweet, Geordie male, that puts his heart and soul into getting information throughly tested, taking countless hours and then released for us all to see.
If only they had a Broughy.
XD
well this sucks, the re7b is a track car. it should be the fastest it terms of lap time regardless, this thing isn't even street legal hence the fact it doenst have a license plate. way to suck r* first gunrunning was a giant miss minus the new cars and now this. what's next the npcs get more op with there ridiculous perfect aim?
Any who thanks for the video Broughy1322 keep it up!
Elmo Lujan Yeah, I'm not a fan of running cars in solo lobbies because of them...
souja ftw park safely, and get out then kill them
airjordanjc12 THEY KEEP COMING!
Elmo Lujan i still have an old video recorded of my beloved re7b. its looks fun to drive because of the way it hugged the road on every corner. rip
Well, since it's release, the RE-7B sure has had quite a bumpy ride in terms of performance. Tragic tale.
Glad I was always too poor to buy one. xD
SteamTheWizard But it's just 2 mil.... If u want I can help you make some money 👌🏻
They offered me special sale just before gunrunning, so i bought the re7b. I got absolutely fked
UE HOFMANN 52 well holy shit some of us have jobs. 15 hours 7 million. sounds like you have a lot of free time.
UE HOFMANN 52 games I want to play? I play gta 5, it's bullshit that they can advertise a car as being the best pricing it as such. then changing it making it the 11th best. or are you really that dense. I got 1007 wins you probably have 75.
lol look at this dude he looks like he's not aloud within 100 hundred feet of a school.
Nice way to make us waste 2.5M Rockstar!
TheIceWarrior IKR like it was planned!
Bryan_A99 just looks now
souja ftw It doesn't look good doesn't even look ok.
As mentioned in the video, for the new top 10 simply go here: ruclips.net/video/P0wpd06NaPQ/видео.html and remove the ETR1 and RE-7B from the top 12 list there.
I'll also take this comment to give my thoughts on this - firstly it's a shame that all cars are slower with this, but specifically the Itali GTB Custom and GP1 which have always suffered from not having enough downforce. Now they're even worse. When it comes to the RE-7B, to me it only ever made sense with its old OP 57 second lap time. That was the only point at which the car was performing in a realistic way. A Le Mans Group C car should be ridiculously fast and all the Cunning Stunts supers should be much faster than standard super cars. But not putting those into their own class is what caused the issue with having cars that fast. They made all other supers redundant. When it was nerfed the first time it was still OP on a lot of tracks but at least it wasn't 57 second lap time levels of OP. However it then lost some of the charm of the car itself. It was just another fast car. Nothing special. With this second nerf the RE-7B is even slower, and for a car like that to be slower than some other standard supercars makes no sense. It's a thoroughbred racecar. But it had already lost the point of the car entirely after the first nerf so from that perspective not a lot has changed. Since the first nerf the RE-7B has never gone as quickly as it should from a realistic standpoint. The big loss with this new nerf are all the other downforce cars. ETR1, Tyrus, Itali GTB Custom, GP1, Specter Custom, Comet Retro Custom, and especially the Omnis are now all much slower than they were, and these were all cars that could've done with a performance increase, not decrease.
At least the supers class is a bit more balanced at the top since the Tempesta has awful top speed and the Zentorno is 2 tenths off with a great price. Nero Custom is still the dominant all-rounder though.
What must also be kept in mind is the money spent on these cars that have now been made worse. Would that money have been spent had they performed this way from a start? A bit shady perhaps when shark cards are involved.
Broughy1322 Think I might sell my RE-7B then...
gg nice job
How is this not fraud? Seriously? I spent actual money to buy these cars based upon performance research, and then they up and change and totally devalue them.
George Ridgers Yeah but u can't sell cars that are worth over 500k
CutoffRanger 150 Then how comes I just sold it for $1.6 million!?
I was hoping my Itali GTB Custom would get more competitive with the Nero Custom that everyone and their mother uses, not further away. What's the point in having so many cars that aren't remotely competitive with others?
"Hey everyone, just use the same car for racing, maybe change only if you've got a pure top speed track with hardly any cornering".
To be fair, if I want to race with cars that can be competitive with eachother, I should just go back to Gran Turismo 4.
Thanks btw Broughy,
Seems an unpopular opinion, but I don't like this change at all.
Definately. They are the racing cars and deserve to be one the best.
coffecupMZ
yes and they are almost the most expensive cars as well... and now they are pretty much pointless:/
I don't like it one bit. How about a 100% refund for my now redundant race cars? Nope, like fuck R* would do anything like that. I would like to know their reasons for doing it rather than just saying "it was intentional".
Walter Rantapere yeah like know re7b gets about the same laptime as the entity
I paid 2.5 million for my Tyrus during that first week of Cunning Stunts. $2,500,000 hard earned cash and then another couple hundred thousand for mods/upgrades. Now its utterly useless.
*Players:* "Hey, how come some cars are getting slower in Custom versions? Give them a better downforce value already, it'd take 5 minutes to change that with a file editor!"
*Rockstar:* "What about instead we reduce the effect of downforce even more and make the spoilers useful on them, but not even nearly enough to compensate the nerf of the downforce so the Custom versions are even slower than they used to be?"
*Players:* "... FU."
Hystery ON POINT!
Fuck up.
So the quickest looking cars are now much slower. Great. Thanks R*...
Keep up the awesome work Broughy!
RIP Rezby. Knocked from a dominating 0:57.724 (pre-nerf) down to a 1:02.096 lap time. Ouch.
Crazy how far it has fallen.
When we said it was OP we didn't mean it had to be nerfed twice. Oh, Rockstar. XD
R* should of made a new class that were hyper cars so they didn't need to nerf the downforce effect.
Yeah hypercars or track cars should be great
That won't boost the sharkcard sales 😕
Updated list:
Tempesta
Zentorno
Nero Custom
X80 Proto
T20
Osiris
Nero
FMJ
Italia GTB
Turismo R
Three Lui the RE-7B, a $2.5m Group C racecar, gets beaten by a $500k Turismo R...
yeah lol x) Rockstar Logic.
Considering the fact that the game's economy is now based around Shark Cards (real money) and the fact that Rockstar can and will devalue anything you buy on a whim, it doesn't make sense for anyone to spend any real life money on this game, let alone try to spend hours grinding for money in-game, only for you to purchase something expensive and have Rockstar devalue it in the next update.
Perhaps they're trying to emulate real life car-buying; the RE-7B and such were last year's models, and now they want to devalue those old models and make people spend their money on the new forthcoming 2017 models.
Either way, it's disgusting that this practice exists in a video game. I really have no desire to continue playing this game now that I know that anything I purchase can be completely ruined on the next update. If the future of video games is "Ha, we just made you spend $100 real life money on item1, then we nerfed item1 to get you to spend $150 on item2," I certainly don't want any part of it.
love your videos Broughy, I can really tell you put alot of time and effort in to making these videos
keep up the great work
I have no idea why I still watch these teastings, I don't even have a GTAV account anymore, but your content is still very good and the only accurate source
Race cars being nerfed to be way worse than road cars, makes sense
SO happy that I hadn't bought an RE-7B yet... Almost bought it the other night, too. Thanks so much for your videos. Looking forward to seeing where the new cars fall.
Damn it Rockstar! Just before this update I bought the RE-7B thinking it was the fastest car and know they nerfed it. Alongside that they tried to remove modding from GTA 5 (PC) and removed all my money from GTA Online. Is there any limit to their incompetence?
Richard Groenendijk I wouldn't really call removing money you received illegitimately, incompetence.
The stuff they're doing with vehicles yes, the way they went about trying to "bite the head off the snake" with OpenIV (instead of working with them to clamp down on Online modding, cos it'll happen with or without OpenIV), totally yes.
EvoBeard Thing is, I didn't receive any modded money, because I am always playing in a solo session or with friends/crew people. But I had 2 million legitimately earned money that was removed. Well at least I wasn't banned for using Discord overlay like someone else was.
Richard Groenendijk Rockstar had nothing to do with mods being illegal on their games. That was all Take Two, their parent company. Rockstar actually talk to Take Two about it, and Rockstar release an FAQ on their forums that Take Two won't take any legal actions against those who mod single player, but they also said it ultimately Take Two's choice of what happens.
Richard Groenendijk how much money did you have before they removed it.
Same here, they even offered me a special sale for it. So only I had 25% off. I paid 1.8 million, but that is still a lot!
Love the logic here by R*, just awesome, amazing, very thought through!
Never really liked the RE-7B, now that it isn't relevant I'm going to sell it.
I'm still gonna keep it seeing how rockstar is jumping opinions I wouldn't be so sure if I were you
Gabbo The Awesome
Good choice. Had the same idea, gonna keep it for a bit
Gabbo The Awesome yeah that's a good idea, I'll hold onto it for a bit.
Ahxiis If you have an moc you could duplicate your car so you could keep it dupe the the car sell the original keep the dupe watch broontango
Man, it feels like it was ages ago when we saw that jaw dropping 57,7 lap time from the RE-7B... Anyway, thanks again Broughy!
I'll miss the RE-7B at the top, don't like the Tempesta :/
Use Zentorno or Nero Custom, they're not that much slower around lap time and have higher top speed
Meckan Im sad reading these comments. Just opinions i guess...
Xivitai the Nero custom is the best all rounder!
I know, I have it myself.
Replace that Zentorno for the Osiris! The Zentorno is a fast vehicle for kids to crash into others with!
Great testing work once again! Keep up the good work brugh!
imagine this situation: You want the the fastest car in game and because you're broke you buy a shark card to afford a re7b. Now it isn't even in the top 10? Rockstar has fooled us once again
Man the RE-7B used to have a lap time of 57s, but multiple updates and tweaks later, it's gone up to 1:02. I know it wasn't fair, but I miss how amazing it was when it first came out.
RIP RE-7B. We hardly knew you. :'(
Broughy, keep doing what you do man, please!!! ;)
It's really pathetic how little Rock* devs seem to know about vehicles. They made Midnight Club, they should know their car stuff. But cars in wrong classes, as well as numerous other issues, this being the latest... they have now killed 2 of my all time favourite cars in the game, the Omnis and the ETR1. Such a shame and disappointment, Rockstar. Those "downforce" cars should be at the top of the supercar pile (even though they should actually be in a totally seperate class altogether, but I don't see them ever changing/adding classes now) and not to mention anyone who bought shark cards to purchase these cars, which are now useless. What a mess.
Nice videos man you put so much work into these
Do you guys remember when the RE-7B used to get a 57 seconds lap time on this track ...?
The good old days
It would Not be The big of a Deal for Rockstar to just create a new Racing Class .... Racecar or Hypercar class... in this Case so many People spend so much Money for nearly a useless car... iam. Really pissed about that
Broughy doing god's work once again. Bless this hero.
At least the GP1 isn't horrifically nerfed due to low downforce. So I'm not gonna be butthurt. Never liked the 7B/Tyrus/ETR-1 post nerf (1st nerf that is) Cause a Le Mans car should be OP vs a LaFerrari (Turismo) for example. Not slower, where is the logic?
Still loving the content Broughy1322! Keep up the great work!
this is such horseshite. Those of us who aren't regular players, but enjoy racing have spent a fair bit of real money on SharkCards to be able to get these vehicles... I made choices based upon research, and spent money on competitive cars accordingly. RockStar has just effectively stolen my money, and I'm fucking pissed.
I would make a complaint to customer service honestly and ask for a refund. They prob won't refund your real money, but maybe they'll refund your in game money. Although I'm sure somewhere in their terms and conditions is written "subject to change" or "in no way affiliated with." Still worth a shot.
Yay Broughy added his channel at the top to discourage people stealing content.
The worst thing about the change imo that also the omnis will be slower :(
^This
rap battle
I remember when the Omnis used to be one of the best cars to drive in terms of the challenge to get good on-dirt times out of it. It was honestly one of the most rewarding driving models in the game, and now it's had what, three nerfs? Basically now I'm reduced to taking my Comet out on dirt roads to get a similar feel and that's only from the power and in no way from controlling oversteer.
henyito that was actually one of my favorite cars
Unprofessional Gamers yeah the reason why I love the Omnis so much is that not only is it based on arguably the best rally car ever (Audi Quattro) but it behaves like one, massive oversteer, light, and good off road, now nearly all of the redeeming qualities are gone, fuck rockstar.
I know it's going to be a great video LIKE.
why do so many people hate the RE-7B?
It's a recreation of the 787B, a legendary Le Mans vehicle which was so good, it banned Mazda out of the FIA Racing
Yeah...
Great video! :)
I've always loved the re-7b but now that I've gotten rid of it for the past 2 months I've been faster in races with the Nero custom
Nice video mate 👍
Anyone of a re- 7b and hasn't got a shit tone of money
I would recommend that you don't just sell it to get the new top cars
Rockstar could easily fix this in the future so be smart
Yeah good tip
as a mostly stunt race racer can't say I've noticed any difference at all, but in broughy we trust. Time to buy my fav Itali in non custom mode, I guess. thanks for what you do
Not gonna lie, I love seeing the re7b down in 11th.
Raymo reaper me too
The car only made sense when it had a 57 second lap time since that was more realistic for what it's supposed to be. And then it should have been in it's own class. But it has never had the easiest time of it. Now it's redundant.
Broughy1322 Rockstar listening to whining kids who think their red and black X80 should be the quickest ever. Never mind realism, the intricacies of real racing, and what it takes to make a fast car. Nope, clearly flashy cars should be the quickest, end of story.
TheKeeperofChaos
Weird... I've never heard such complaints of it. At least in RUclips.
Raymo reaper Me too fmj ftw kinda a travesty that many brain dead talentless you tubers claim the fmj isn't a top tier super just because they can't maximize it's potential.
RIP Cunning Stunts.I actually liked these cars before they were 'demolished' by R*But why is a Le Mans car slower than 10 other cars? RIP 57.724 seconds laps..Thank you Broughy for doing this, we could've just raced in a RE-7B and lost to a Turismo R, which we never thought could happen.
CAR FOR SALE
Manufacturer: Annis
Model: RE7B
Colour: Matte Black
Mileage: 1,322m
Price: 1,322,000 U$D
Set the price to 1.329.000 so you'll can sell it for a tempesta lol (now the best time car...)
Kevin Davies 1322 m? What a low milage piece and that cheap!
Since i've been watching broughy i got way better in racing in general, mostly because i understand now how underrated and important cornering speed is, most people just look at acceleration when they think about getting around corners.
Good to know! :)
glad I bought a Tempesta when it was on sale
Ahxiis Meh I use my Nero custom the most it's a bit better... nevertheless I use my tempesta occasionally
Wow, I'm shocked at the drop, it was just one after another, seeing how much the Tyrus and ETR1 drop, then the RE-7B. Not happy with R*, they should've just increased the lower cars' downforce ratings. I didn't see that drastic of a drop coming.
So the tempesta is the quickest now.
And X80 Proto
Alejandro López Carrasco no, the tempesta is the fastest, the zentorno is the 2nd and the nero custom is the 3rd.
Bendegúz Fekete how is Nero custom 3rd?
It was 4th beforehand
Bendegúz Fekete
Tempesta: 1:00:803
Zentorno: 1:00:960
Nero Custom: 1:01:061
X80 Proto: 1:01:175
T20: 1:01:287
Osiris: 1:01:394
I remember taking an RE7B up to Vinewood hills being able to drive around moderately sharp corners at nearly top speed, now it's been nerfed fucking twice.
Well, I see what Rockstar did there, trick people to buy these old cars then after awhile, completely trash them to make people buy these new cars. This idea is completely disgusting and not necessary
The RE7B is a dedicated racing car, and as long as it does not have its own class, I applaud this change.
Man, I miss being able to go like 160-200 MPH in the RE-7B and 811. Of all of the things to remove, they had to remove the glitch that let cars hit realistic top speeds. Bullshit. I know it wrecked competitive racing, but DAMN those were fun times.
the 811 still does that
Crimson Phoenix My fmj hit 230 on the plummet stunt track.
Speedo is km/h Not mph in fmj
Sgt_LaggerLP the speedo is not kmh in the FMJ, it isn't accurate to any unit. The same applies to most speedos in the game
RE-7B was tired of having one 1, he decided to slow down and get two 1 XD
And they're dripfeeding us on top of that. Why should we even support this company anymore?
Remember those new supers coming out which look very fast and very expensive? Funny how nerfing the downforce supers suddenly makes the new supers seem a lot more appealing. Some of us will sell our nerfed downforce supers to be able to afford them, the rest of us will find money some other way (e.g. shark cards). Then after we've all bought the new supers, R* will fix the downforce supers so everyone who sold them will have to find money (e.g. shark cards) to buy them again.
So Rockstar have fucked us over with the prices for these now slow cars, thanks for fuck all Rockstar 👎
It was not enough that the top speed sucked for the etr1 compared to the other cars in the top 10 supers class but now it's cornering ability. Man I hope they revert to the post gunrunning downforce and just add the proper values to the gp1, gtb, etc. because only the re7b is remains somewhat competitive from this change
There is a $700,000 car that is now second in this list and has been around for a few years 🐑🐑🐑
Nanuan The Zenterno
Thank you for your effort.
That's why I have a Tempesta
Pieceofcheese78 thing is very good around a kerby city track, im a proud owner of one as you can see :)
Stuff like this makes me feel good about doing money glitches.
how was that intentional.
the cars drive like garbage now
cheers for the video mate.
The devs making these decisions must be either complete empty-headed or they do it on purpose to get people spend all their money on the new cars (Just about them SharkCards again). It's such a joke how the cunning stunts vehicles got nerfed again and again so now they're almost useless in any stunt or normal race, lmao. Do you think it's a good idea selling them or just wait till R* changes something again that could make them faster again?! I don't know what else to say about these stupid devs... What the fck is their praised quality assurance doing?
damn I almost blow my cash on re-7b when it's on sale before gunrunning update. Thanks for the heads up about downforce Sir Broughy1322!
thanks R*, for ignoring what we wanted and giving us shit that nobody asked for
vincent eby
R* kinda won the first place this time buddy
Will you be making a new list? Kinda hard to keep track of both supers and sports at the same time
Wow the re7b went from the fastest cars in the game to one of the slowest
Beastincolt
thats a big claim, and.. i doubt that in hands of regular players, they can beat a experiencied one with a slow car
hell, i had won against osiris and Turismos with a Bullet
Beastincolt It's like 11th out of 29 supers not slow just not the same op car it was when it came out.
New Top 10
1. Tempesta (1:00.803)
2. Vagner (1:00.894)
3. Zentorno (1:00.960)
4. Nero Custom (1:01.061)
5. X80 Proto (1:01.175)
6. T20 (1:01.287)
7. Osiris (1:01.394)
8. Nero (1:01.495)
9. FMJ (1:01.795)
10. Itali GTB Standard (1:01.861)
Not all heroes wear capes
Bring your Progen Itali GTB to Benny's Original Motor Work and pay a fine of $300,000+ so I can downgrade it for you! (Benny's new vehicle postcard)
Hahaha XD
Broughy1322 like did R* forgot why is the custom version more expensive than the original one? XD
I'm pissed. I own all those cars, used them a lot and knew what they could do or could not do. Now they are strangers to me and all my lap records with those cars are out of reach! Thanks Rockstar for "fixing" something that wasn't broken ...
rip re7b
Nero custom ftw, it's now 3rd fastest lap and 4th in speed!! The x80 isn't too bad either it's 4th in lap times and 3rd in speed! Good thing I have both!
Face palm... R* wtf?
Which is the faster rally super? Better handling? Sultan RS or GTB Custom?
Oh my god this is a tragedy! All of these cars were fan favorites and they have completely destroyed them. It's so typical R* they try and fix something but just ends up destroying it even more. The Itali GTB Custom is now almost 2 seconds slower then the regular Itali GTB. What a joke except it's not funny.
Do you think this will get patched again or at the very least returned to the way it was before? I mean i get what they were trying to do but it clearly didn't work out as intended.
Also will you make a support post on this?
Making racing cars with big spoilers and downforce trash...This is one measly reason i don't play this trash game anymore.
The audio quality sounds imho better than on the previous videos, did you record that in Sweden?
*I've got socks on. who else?*
same
U tried to fish for likes but u failed lmao
Remember when the re7b came out and you didn't have to brake for anything when you had offroad tires?
This is disappointing...
Very disappointing for GTB custom, GP1 and Omnis. SMH...
R.I.P Progen GP1, Emperor ETR-1, Progen Itali GTB Custom and Annis RE-7B
It's frustrating that Rockstar adds a new mechanic for vehicles, distribute it unevenly to new vehicles, then make strange changes. Ideally, a complete overhaul of all the vehicles in the game is needed. Add downforce values to all cars, add spoilers to vehicles that are missing them that logically would have an aftermarket spoiler. It's like a series of patchwork ideas implemented poorly at the moment.
RIP Downforce cars. Especially the RE-7B. (I'm still holding onto my Tyrus, I think it's a great car, even though it's slow in races.)
So the RE-7B, a purebred racecar, is now slower than a bunch of show cars. Makes sense.
I'd love to see how the Comet Retro Custom changed after this update, but there was no testing in the first place and yet again no testing of it in this video even though it had downforce, so I guess I'll never know 😞
This is why I'm done playing GTA until they say they're officially done with updates
Thanks mate again 👍