i learned an important lesson | CS2 Coaching
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Ever since I started trying to get better at counter-strike, I’ve been intrigued by the idea of working with a coach. But I always felt like it wouldn’t be worth it for a lower skilled player like myself. Like won’t I just get better if I play more? Isn’t it kind of embarrassing to spend money on something I actively suck at? I’m not sure why exactly I’ve made these judgments. After all, hiring a coach or tutor is an accepted practice for novices in all sorts of hobbies and activities - so why not competitive video games? After waffling for a bit, I decided it would be easier to justify this to myself by making content out of it, so here we are.
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MY COACH PIENIX ON RUclips: @pienixcs
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0:00 "I'm happy for your loss"
0:34 Intro
0:52 Start of demo review - Mirage connector
Pienix Demonstrates
23:25 Walking out of smokes
24:42 How to properly jump spot
25:25 Angle advantage when playing around stairs
26:00 peeking from stairs to T ramp
26:40 con player should flash mid every round
27:13 switch util with A player if you don't have a full set
27:30 try this nade behind the ramp molly
28:15 but you can also use the nade in other ways...
28:19 The bottom connector smoke and how to play around it
31:26 peeking stairs
31:50 helping your A player during an exec
33:30 rely on window player to let you know if mid control is happening
33:45 window player can nade top mid smoke
33:57 how should the window/con/cat players work together?
36:34 is there a good flash for peeking window mid-round?
37:44 what haven't we covered yet? (rotating)
40:20 jumping out of window as a con player
41:43 don't play connector on pistol rounds
42:33 force buys
42:49 you don't ALWAYS have to play connector on gun rounds + a play from krimz
43:47 cheeky palace play for low money rounds
44:46 Outro
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Glad you keep this series going. I like how he explains concepts and how well you take his advice. 👍👍
Man this much information for free is amazing! As an old CS player getting back into it, it helps me a lot, especially because I play Mirage only for now. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Glad to hear it!
Remember the self pop flashes are almost useless for flashing top mid because top mid is too far away it will only half blind. They are very good for punishing players running down mid to bottom connector or on cat. Great vid!
it serves your teammate on Windows who can take advantage of a peak from an upper middle T or avoid a 3-man peak but the flash must be well timed. it also serves to neutralize the flashes of the terrorists from the upper middle and the T spawn which can blind the awper and protect him from a disadvantage 1v1. at lower elo it serves to tell "you will not pass".
I love these coaching video’s so this longer one was a treat :)
Also, just like your coach said, you can definitely see improvement in your gameplay and mainly your aim. Keep it up!
glad you can see some improvement! sometimes i think i'm just playing exactly the same as i was in august but i know for a fact that isn't the case. thanks for watching : )
I like how you dont make excuses for the mistakes you are making. Best way to get advice & learn. Good job.
i'm learning so much from these videos, really thankful for this free knowledge ❤
Ngl, Coach's english is getting so good. I cracked when he blurted "no cap" out of nowhere 😂. This videos are awesome!!
I learn so much from these videos, even as a faceit lvl 10. Keep the series going, great work!
That's awesome, glad to hear it.
Exactly even when I played pro cod I watched stuff like this to learn even more
your videos makes me a lot of info and your coach as well how to correct yourself every game! new cs2 playe here
I’m so glad I discovered your channel. Don’t worry about getting to the other maps late. I’m still learning a lot regardless!
thanks, welcome!
@@xboxlasagne He's not lying, after 3,000 hours in the game, YOUR videos are teaching me something! Part of the reason this game has been able to hold onto such a large player base all these years!
Thoroughly enjoying this series
I love these videos. I always learn so much
nice, I love this series
Man, this is such a good channel.
i love you dawg.
haha thanks!
@@xboxlasagne say it back 🗿
This is so good. My friend was able to explain inferno like this to me but we don't know shit about mirage.
Great video. I like how you're standing your ground a bit and explain your thoughts too, instead of just saying "yes yes" to everything. It provides important context to us viewers(or at least to me).
What level/rank where you at in CSGO?
Thanks, I really appreciate that! I was nova 1 in MM when we started and ended csgo MG1.
You've improved heaps bro, keep it up
appreciate it thanks!
These are soo good keep it up, very helpfull 😊
Thank you!
as a new player these videos are great thanks for the content man
Really enjoying these video. Considering getting a couple sessions myself.
Go for it!
this is very helpful you have a good coach thank you
Really like the coach, he knows his stuff
This was really cool im gonna try some of these tips😊
player: "We were 2-0 so I thought we could do whatever we want round 3"
coach: "that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard and I'm considering canceling this coaching session"
I started playing con and throwing that flash mid every round, I ended a game and had 30 enemies flashed as my title card. It works very well and really helps that window player.
I've had a similar experience with it : )
This is great, I currently suck and the advice helps.
"the flame doing the fire thingy" pienix 2023
I have had good rounds nading A main from jungle as well as mollys on tetris. It works wonders on teams afraid to push past tetris (they get pushed into fights unprepared). Many people still overlook the bin angle - outside of the jungle smoke if they forget to molly it, you can push through and get quite a few kills (also might be useful with the 32:17 smoke).
excited to learn more about mirage!
You and me both!
Good coach imo. Hes iterating what my 26k friend taught me. And he gets you to focus on what normal solo q players dont do. By doing the jobs nobody wants to do you can bring the team winrate up. Any team u play with.
Not sure if you’ll see this comment but I’m seeing a lot of support and criticism regarding the 3rd round buying decision. I think it’s incredibly nuanced and stems from how terrible CT economy is and how strong T economy is. In this particular example, I agree that buying probably a famas and light armor is stronger than a smg and full armor w/ nades. Simply because the Ts did not get a bomb plant on round 1. A bomb plant in round 1 should always result in a buy from the Ts in round 2 even if they lose round 1. If a bomb plant happens, they buy round 2 and lose, then 3rd round they have to save and I can see an argument for trying to rack up cash with an smg. For some reason, it looks like they half bought or something in round 2 but have gotten away with a decent buy in round 3 because T economy is so broken. That’s why I’d pick a famas w/ light armor and 1 or 2 nades. In summary, it depends on A LOT of nuanced factors regarding if there was a bomb plant, how many players stayed alive for these rounds on CT side in particular, and what purchases were made in rounds 1 and 2. Hopefully this helps if you somehow find this post!
I forgot to explain the alternative! If a bomb plant doesn’t happen in round 1 my point in support of a rifle buy is that they most likely saved round 2 and are full buying on round 3.
It even depends on how you want to play the round. Like if you are playing top hut on Nuke CT side then you can use an smg or shotgun regardless. Sorry, I promise this is the last message 😂
thanks for watching : )
im so curious as to how you are getting your demos, loving the series tho!
faceit!
I agree with most of what he says but there is nothing wrong with buying 2nd round util instead of an m4. I probably would've opted for a frag+flash instead of the incendiary though
30:45 What I'm picking up here is that, at least for me, it would be good to launch a practice server and run around imagining different scenarios ive played out and find ways of using utility efficiently to delay/deter the enemy team.
I've heard of some folks refer to this as "Shadowboxing". Just pretending youre against enemies and drilling the motions into your head so that, when youre actually against enemies, you dont have to think about it.
This was so funny 🤣🤣
I don't really know CS econ quite that well but your mindset on round 3 is definitely a Valorant thing, though typically you'll ask for an upgraded pistol from a teammate that still has one from pistol so that you can afford util and shields to help out in the bonus
Yes, this is exactly what I’d do in valorant haha
3rd round bonus is definitely a thing in long cs matches. Idk if this coach only plays short matches or something but saying to 100% force after every round you win is a dumb thing to say
ure wrong @@Poonbank
@@tobeyves how
Not gonna type an essay but i've heard it from multiple pro's/coaches alr so I'm gonna believe them over a "random" in the youtube comment section, no offence :)@@Poonbank
35:18 what would be the timing for this under flash ?
Also I wouldn't mind watching some of your regular gameplay where you self analyze your mistakes live, I don't think it needs to be heavily edited
A T wont always sprint directly to underpass so I think it's more based on feel. I've been checking underpass after seeing what's happening top mid and have gotten a few kills with it that way.
If you wanna see raw footage of me playing you can check out my twitch - i've been streaming a bunch the past week so there are a few vods up as well www.twitch.tv/xboxlasagne
This series is excellent. At roughly 34:50 your coach talks about the catwalk player always being aggro, do you have any videos on this?
Thanks! I do.
We first went over playing cat in CSGO in this video: ruclips.net/video/CdBF2PW3Bko/видео.htmlsi=f_Dj40YXQJuHS7mq
And recently had a followup here (timestamped): ruclips.net/video/pWNNnm6XggY/видео.htmlsi=l8I6-g6jrgsX-Nv8&t=951
@@xboxlasagne thank you!
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31:11 everybody knows about the bench, you'll get you head shot off there.
is this in game replay? if not what is the app he's using?
Hey man, just a quick question how are u watching ur demos ? since they took away the demo s recordings i haven't been able to find my games, and i 'd really liek to review my past games.
faceit
love this series and will be sad to see when you win your first major because you wont need any more lessons :(
bittersweet moment frfr
Nice Channel
Can we talk about the 'music by me' being S-tier?
: )
a general tipp is also if your losing the aimduels or dying always first on a a execute, just fall back into con and using the height difference to get some kills & ("playing for retake") + nade the smoke to get a clear vision. Or using the box to get a vision to palace.
How are you watching demo's? Literally unable to download my own demos from cs2. Also I can't download them from the stats screen in steam aswell.
this is from a faceit match. demos are disabled for valve matchmaking
“Alot of beginners make this mistake” (in regards to buying a 57 second round to match economies) i would beg a differ
Did you save these demos from before valve turned the recording off?
Or is there another way to get these demos?
It’s from faceit
Bonus round is exclusive to valorant
so i've learned heh
the coach is wrong at 4:20 bonus rounds are a thing and you can save or buy as a team
He never said bonus rounds aren't a thing, he said bonus rounds mean you keep the weapons you had the previous round, he was commenting on how this guy only bought a five-seven because it was a bonus round, which isn't a thing.
how can u watch cs2 demos? I can't download my matches
an answer would be nice - I really don't know how and u has send ur coach the demos no?
how are you recording your cs matches i thought it was disabled?
Faceit
Please provide the coaching for t side also
it’s been a bit but if I can remember correctly there isn’t a T side video for this game because there wasn’t much to discuss - I think it was just a few quick rounds
I hate to bother with something barely related, but how are you downloading your demos?
you can still download demos for faceit matches
@@xboxlasagne ohhhh
asking about bonus rounds, did you come from valorant by any chance?
yes in fact i did haha
@@xboxlasagne yeah that's definitely classic valorant eco management, imo no such thing as a bonus round in cs!
When i enter steam through browser and try do download my demo it doesnt show Download GOTV Replay button, does anyone have fix for this?
Replays are disabled for Valve servers, he has one because this was a FACEIT match
ok, thank you
i also want to know
'yeah' was said 120 times
yeah
bonusing is more of a valorant mechanic, it doesn't see a lot of use in cs
it was pretty interesting to learn this!
Can you make a guide on bhops
start by changing your jump bind to scrollwheel
How do you watch your demos unless this is faceit?
this was faceit. more recent videos we are working off screen recordings.
@@xboxlasagne Ah. I was able to download my first CS2 mm game. Then an update came out and I can't view possible cheater pov's anymore. I don't even think the vac ai anti-cheat even works.
Played a wingman and 1 enemy knew every time where we were. Even pre-fired through smoke while we walked. Perfect flashes/nades with no intel.
What rank is he? He said util doesn’t matter for that rank and just curious. I’m LE for go 10k and lvl 6 faceit so curious😊
this is a level 3 lobby
his first comment about round 2 and not buying util and buying up m4 really gets under my skin. Its the wrong mentality when trying to coach a player trying to improve. Its instilling bad habits that even if he is right and they " wont exec at this level" once hes past them he will try and do the same thing since that's what his coach has instilled in him. but suddenly, they are execing at that level and your being overrun and gifting them a free m4 for their post plant. I get what hes trying to say I really do. I just cant agree with this line of teaching. He has alot of great info in this video but just had to say something about that first one.
You're wrong though. Even at Faceit 10 people are still buying a rifle without util. There are plenty of reasons to do this on round 2.
The players buying util on round 2 are the ones who can't afford m4
@@colepulis2560yes some do in level 10, those with insane mechanical aim, your average level 10 though like myself isn’t cracked like that. Making the site not viable for a rush is so much more important than thinking “ oh I’m the greatest I can totally wipe them out all out by myself.” Allowing that delay so rotates can come in is far more important.
@@Nicchelseayou are far better making money and increasing your economy as a CT since they’re on eco than force up an M4. Especially with the change back to mr12.
I think the idea is that he is going to be far more effective with an m4 and no util rather than a famas with util. If you aren't good with util, buying a worse weapon with util is just going to be detrimental to you.
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great idea
Question for Pienix in case he sees this. If the Ts got the info that the con player was ramp (lets just assume they get a 1 for 1 trade) them how might they respond to that if they are well coordinated?
how to watch your matches on demo?
matchmaking demos are still broken - this is from faceit
@@xboxlasagne Wtf faceit has demos, valve needs to step up!!! 😡😡😡
how did you get gotv to work??
Either match is before it was disabled or faceit matches still have demos enabled
this was from a faceit match
What rank is this?
i wanna know what faceit rank he was on csgo
This was level 2, level 3 now. Haven’t played much faceit though
Looks like faceit level 5-7 to me
lol i wish. i was level 2 here. @@MrRezoner
25:36 aksually its cs2 not cs:go 🤓
Can I coach you?
i have a coach already but thanks!
Thanks for paying for a coach so I dont have to
Perhaps I am confused with the 3rd round as well…if you full buy, but your team is bonusing and you guys lose that round. Your team would be able to full buy round 4 but you wouldnt be able to with them, no?
Then either one of your tm8s drop you, or you force whatever you can with them. You have to keep loss bonus in mind as well so if you lose the round after the one you just loss you will still be able to buy deagle with team on save round.
stop adding lvl10 faceit to logo dude this is lvl2 for beginners
No