Weege is the Man! Good stuff as always! Hardest working announcer in Moto!! Dude is a treasure! He makes whoever is on color commentary sound like a million bucks!
Yep the AMA IS AS CROOKED AS OUR GOVERNMENT WITH THEIR BULLSHIT STORY ON THE PENALIZING. IF A RIDER DOESN'T GAIN A SPOT, PERIOD THEN JUST LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE. OR BY DAM. MAKE ALL RIDERS REENTER EXACTLY WHERE THEY WENT OFF TRACK. MEANING TURN THE BIKE AROUND AND COME BACK IN WHERE YOU WENT OFF TRACK. THEN THERE CAN NOT BE ANY FAVORITISM BECAUSE IT WILL BE VERY PLAIN TO SEE. YOU HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND ENTER WHERE YOU WENT OFF AT. MEANING HIT THE BRAKES TURN AROUND AND DO IT FAST. GIVE THEM 10 FEET AT THE MOST AND WE WILL NOT HAVE THIS BULLSHIT THEY, THE AMA GAMES. BECAUSE TOM DID NOT DESERVE NO FUCKIN PENALTY PERIOD. IT PISSES ME OFF BAD BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ALL IGNORANT TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING. ONLY FANS THAT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT AND JUST AGREE WITH WHATEVER.
I guess you completely missed or just didn’t listen to the explanation of how they determine whether or not a rider gets penalized or not.. and yes, plenty of riders went off the track but not all of those riders were on camera doing it or had an ama official there to see it and call it. They made their decision and it didn’t affect the results either way. Tom still got 3rd, like he should have and deegan got 1st, like he should have. Everyone isn’t going to always agree with the call they make, but we can’t change it and they gave a solid explanation of how the rule works and why they chose to call each one the way they did, so get over it and move on.
BTW where you were standing with your cam on the outside of the turn is a risky spot as evidence by the recent rider going off the track penalty situation you had just discussed about right before...
Why is it that most motocross viewers on RUclips seem to hate anyone in power. They loathe the AMA, Feld, promotocross, Davey etc. All they do is complain about everything, even the announcers lol. I guess it's why Cooksey is so popular.
Thats just the new American culture. The more good any organization or person trys to do for the people or events to entertain them, the more they will hate them. If they treat them like garbage, take things away from them or just ignore them and let them suffer they will be loved. Its like this country has a community based mental illness. There's been an entire political movement based on lies and fear for fuks sake.
Still disagree with the decision, Deegan went off 3 times. If he slowed his Pace he wouldn't have been able to make that jump. It seems the decision was made because Deegan looked at the racetrack & Tom didn't?
Why wouldn’t he have been able to make that jump? You don’t have to slow all the way down, just have to go slower than race pace and come back on safely, all which he did. That is a factory fuckin 250f, it doesn’t need much speed to hit that jump, it’s not that damn big. Haiden actually did the right things or tried his best which is why he didn’t get docked. Deegan lost time, Tom gained time. Deegan made sure it was clear/safe and Tom just full blast jumped right back on track without even looking. All of these things are factored in. I’d be fine if they took away vialles penalty but it doesn’t matter how many times he went off or what jump he was able to hit after going off. It’s what you do while OFF the track and not gaining any advantage and making sure you come back on safely, which he did.
Thats why I always say to my wife when we watch local B and C class races. The fastest guy here aint even close to as fast as the 40th rider to line up on the gate at a pro national.
They didnt even go over Haiden's off track excursion that should have been a penalty. The one where he almost hit a cameraman while throwing a roost off track..
Man stfu. He almost hit him right when he went off track and he gassed it as soon as he landed off track and then let right up and made sure it was clear to go back on. He didn’t go full speed, he had slowed down some and as dusty as the track was it doesn’t take much to have dirt roost off the back tire even at a slower pace. It looked worse than it actually was, stop crying. It’s been a week now, get tf over it. They made the right call.
We had a couple local pro guys ride with us and when we went to Unadilla for club rides. For them to make the field was a big deal but on the track riding with them it was incredible how fast they were
Tom was well clear of hd, and and Pelletier himself says he maintained race pace, so the idea that Tom didnt know that he was still clear of hd doesnt hold water. And hd clearly lost time? He made the mega jump, and the question isnt whether he 'should' have jumped it, the point is thst if he was even able to jump it, it shows he didnt 'clearly' lose time.
lol they address the Deegan off track incident that no one is complaining about, how about the one in Moto 1 where he doesn't look back and rails that hill and jumps it while in second
They did review it and he didn’t gain any time and he did slow down from the race pace. Jumping that jump isn’t hard even just cruising at a slower speed off track. It doesn’t take much for those factory bikes to hit a jump like that and he 100% did let up. At first he had gassed it when he first went off and then immediately let off some. You’ve gotta realize your brain doesn’t always work that fast and takes a half a second or so to catch up and communicate to that certain part of your body what to do. You can get a program that shows you the speed from his previous lap and that lap in that exact section and it tells you he slowed down, so stop just making up shit just because you THOUGHT it looked like he was going full speed just because he was able to hit a little jump after going off track
That wasn’t the biggest jump on the track and I am just going to assume you d never ridden a 250f, much less a factory built 250f. It doesn’t take much to get over that jump and he didn’t go full throttle until he was getting back on the track at the bottom of the take off and that’s plenty of time to get over the jump still. These bikes have so much damn power and torque they don’t need much of a run to get over a jump that size, it wasn’t even that big. And you obviously have no clue how the rule works because he doesn’t have to come to a stop or just putt around when off the track. He just needs to slow it down some, make sure he doesn’t gain an advantage/position, and come back on safely and he did all of those things. If it was anyone other than deegan, none of y’all would be saying a damn word but because it was, you deegan haters have to make sure you get your two cents in and try and bash him in some way since you can’t talk about his actual skills on a bike. The kid went 1-1 and won legitimately, shut tf up and quit crying already.
Last time a rode a 250f was in 08… was almost stock and pretty quick….. these factory 250s surely haul mail way quicker than that.🤷🏼♂️ a 60ft step up in 3rd would be a breeze. I could be wrong though
So did the rider he passed in the turn on the Kawasaki who was going a similar speed as Deegan. You gotta ride to know why and how he was able to clear that jump with little speed in doing so..
Weege. The AMA clearly got it wrong. If Deegan entered the track with enough speed to clear that table, he didn’t slow down enough. If it was an issue of safely getting over the table, he should have gone around it (slowly) and reenter the track safely. The AMA blew it, the question is, why?
Please Jason,ask steward to call riders by their name during the races, instead of Tom ,Levi,Jo: VIALLE, KITCHEN and SHIMODA would be SO MUCH clear; Please... Thank you and congratulations again for your precious work. You are the Master of our sport.
One thing I can't get my head around: These guys (specifically, in this case, Jordan Smith), are professionals, right? That being a given fact, how do they get away with a comment like ".... it was a good learning weekend...."? Surely, all the learning had already been done in testing and practice, coupled with all the years leading up to this time.... I'd prefer an honest comment coming from these professionals if I were their sponsor, dishing out all the money.... Something like "I was giving it all I had, but I was too scared to go any faster, crash and then hurt myself... I got to practice more and learn where the absolute limit is, and get comfortable riding right up close to it all the time.".... "I wasn't feeling comfortable" just isn't a comment.... Comfortable is where I am watching on my couch on RUclips at home.... But I'm not getting paid to do that, dude. You're paid to get VERY uncomfortable... That's what you're paid to do....!
3:19 - “he didn’t asses the situation safely, we felt”… so how did the camera guy feel when deegan almost took him out and returned to hit a jump just like vialle? Conveniently skipped that part
This reminds me of the media during covid...they just say the same shit 100 times and it never makes any more sense than it did the first 😂 safe and effective safe and effectivesafe and effective
would you rather have haiden on the ground because people landed on him becuase he rolled it or would you rather have a healthy haiden that ultimately didn’t get penalized because he didn’t gain time
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢. Yes, he accelerated in a safe manner, but he didn't gain any time he lost time, and he looked back before he entered the track. Clean your ears and listen. But your hate and emotions get the best of you, beta boy.
Why both when they literally explained the rule and why they penalized Tom? The main reasons Tom was penalized is he never at all let off, gained time compared to his previous lap, and he just jumped right back on without even looking to make sure nobody was coming. Haiden slowed down some and he looked back and made sure he was clear to enter the track and actually lost time and gained no advantage. Yall are seriously so dumb to listen to them explain the ruling for both and why and STILL can’t fucking understand.
@@davidbiagi2932 bro, race day live is like 3 hours and sometimes they don't even get the fastest laps. I'm saying they need to get the footage together and show it on the main race broadcast or at least post it on RUclips during the week. This is low hanging fruit
What does that matter? It doesn’t take much to hit that jump on a factory built 250f 🙄🤦♂️ It’s not like you have to slow down to a fucking crawl while off track, you just have to go slower than the race pace, which he did. Doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be able to still hit the jump and the size of the jump doesn’t matter at all and Tom hitting the double coming back on would have been fine had he actually tried to slow down and actually looked over to make sure it was clear, he did none of those things. They just explained the entire rule to you in detail and you idiots still can’t understand it.
If there is 2 guys behind. That doesn't give you permission to pin it off the track to jump. If it is unsafe you should wait till those riders pass before re-entering the track.
They aren’t protecting anyone. They made the right call based on the rules. Stop acting like he gets some special damn treatment when they penalized him multiple times in sx for doing the EXACT same things other riders did at the EXACT SAME TIME and none of those others got penalized. Tom NEVER let off or even looked to make sure it was safe to enter the track where he did, haiden did, and that’s why he wasn’t penalized and Tom was. Yall give up with this crying about Deegan shit already. The kid won straight up and y’all just want to try and bash him any way you can. Enjoy watching him continue to win, can’t wait to hear some more crying from you.
Deegan went off-track twice in the first moto, both caught on TV. The first one wasn't bad, he slowed down and lost time. The second one he kept it wide open as soon as he went off-track for as long as Vialle did, and barely lost any time to Kitchen in front of him. How come they're not talking about that little excursion? Did I miss something or are they pretending it didn't happen? Vialle deserved his penalty, but so does Deegan for the first moto.
Thnk you Weege!!! Awesome questions... I don't like his excuse for no penalty on Deegan... Sounds like political BS!!!! I guess it's ok that Deegan was roosting the guy on the side of the track but yet he didn't speed up? ! bunch of c##p!
No fucking rider is going to intentionally go off fucking track. That is the dumbest shit anyone could ever say. Nobody is going to risk a one or more position penalty to try and gain a few tenths, which most of the time when you go off track you’re going to lose time, even if you go full throttle while off. You idiots will say any dumb shit won’t you?
They need to just stop trying to justify penalizing Viale and Deegan. Both should have been penalized or both should have not been penalized. Bottom line is they screwed this up in a major way and now they are trying to Justify it!! It clearly makes them look bad. If you are going to penalize 1 you need to keep it consistent across the board. Calling Bullmess on "we look at data to see if they gained or lost position, it's impossible to see, you are talking in tenths or even thousandths. It's just sad and the more they try to come out and make videos and comment their justification it makes them look like the Democrats forcing it down our throats with the thought of if they say it enough then it's true and the people will have to believe it!!
Off track should literally require go back to the spot you left and rejoin. A mistake should cost you time not end in a debate of "but I didn't gain anything" If you can't keep on track you're riding out of control
Tom..Got Kicked out of a Rut..yes..he was on the gas some..but Maybe to not drift Further..into the dry, slick..trackside.. I didn't see him Gain anything..and was probably aware of where the rider behind him still was. Good no call there imo..too.
imo , the fact that deagan looked back for traffic etc. and there is a point where he maintained a slower pace while looking. can see there point tom just cut back on , not caring if he may have cut someone off. never looked
Not his fault the person was standing right there. He almost hit her the moment he went off track, nothing he did while off track had anything to do with almost hitting her and you can argue him gassing it when he landed right in front of her got his bike straightened up so he wouldn’t. Right after he nailed the gas for quarter of a second, he let off some and cruised til he got back on and looked to make sure he was clear. They have programs that allow them to see their speed while off track, time they were off track, how far behind/infront of the guys behind and infront of him before and after, and all kinds of different angles. All of those things showed he didn’t go full speed and did slow down. You don’t have to come to a fucking crawl, just have to slow down frm the race speed and he did and he came back on safely. The ones that make and enforce the rules explained it to you in great detail, so how are y’all still crying about it? They made the right calls. Get tf over it you fucking crybaby
Even with the explanation it’s pretty clear they screwed the pooch on the penalties. Also, very apparent that the rule needs modification when some of the riders don’t even understand it. Pretty hilarious excuse of why Deegan continued with the jump.
The more I see about this instance the more unfair I feel like it was. If it was la legit decision it wouldn’t still be getting brought up and excuses made.
I’ll save you all some time. Basically, deegan has a huge following and the ama didn’t want the heat from said following. Vialle is French so fark him.
😂 Deegan jumped that with hardly any run at it, like a boss and launched it to the skies... With the capability to control it Midway for some sort of clean landing 💪 The kid's our 38beast🏁 Danger Danger!
total BS, a very incompetent AMA official, we all know why he did not penalize Deegan I was stationed while in the Air Force with a Pelletier back in the early 80s in Arizona and again in northern California in the 90's, he was a yes man too.
@@patd4u2 gotta make sure everyone knows about those 2 rough years you served sitting behind a finance desk as a reservist and what it has to do with motocross lol.
vialle's off track contributed to his momentum and speed and covered a large length of that section while off track. deegan's off track was an over shoot and cost him time to recover his momentum and position. deegan also was off track for a shorter length.
All yous guys' Mamma's. I still don't like it. Seems like we are splitting hairs. So if Vialle turned his head to the left at some point (whether he actually saw anything useful or not) the AMA woud not have penalized him? Sounds like it to me. I'll remember that for future reference! I simply don't like the fact of Vialle going off the track and being penalized, and Deegan going off the track 3 times and not being penalized. I supose it's true that Deegan could have re-entered correctly three times, but ..... (heavy sigh) What happened to basically being required to re-enter the track where you left it? Is that really old school? It would surely take the "I don't care" out of skipping off the track. I guess it would open other wormy cans though ..... (Like "I was forced off the track! ", et cetera)
Mike p is weak . There was a whole group . = blaming others. There’s a whole heap of different footage and timing = and we are keep it to ourself s . Both Tom and dangr went off track 1 penalised 1 handed the win. He is good enough to win on his own his done the hard yards he dosent need Mike p playing favourites.
Nobody would have cared if neither of them got a penalty its the one and not the other that people dont like. Starting to sound like "ama motocross...brought to you by pfizer " 😂 stop treating us like we believe everything you tell us.
@@lifeisgood3589 disagree, definitely makes it a way bigger thing than it should be. You have fanboys coming out the woodwork and haters complaining too so it definitely blown out of proportion
Weege is the Man! Good stuff as always! Hardest working announcer in Moto!! Dude is a treasure! He makes whoever is on color commentary sound like a million bucks!
Second that!
I'm also gay for Weege
@@alexreinhardt28 you can do better honestly😂😂
This is great to have AMA official speak about the penalties. Very rare in the professional league.
Give Tom his points back.
Yep the AMA IS AS CROOKED AS OUR GOVERNMENT WITH THEIR BULLSHIT STORY ON THE PENALIZING. IF A RIDER DOESN'T GAIN A SPOT, PERIOD THEN JUST LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE. OR BY DAM. MAKE ALL RIDERS REENTER EXACTLY WHERE THEY WENT OFF TRACK. MEANING TURN THE BIKE AROUND AND COME BACK IN WHERE YOU WENT OFF TRACK. THEN THERE CAN NOT BE ANY FAVORITISM BECAUSE IT WILL BE VERY PLAIN TO SEE. YOU HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND ENTER WHERE YOU WENT OFF AT. MEANING HIT THE BRAKES TURN AROUND AND DO IT FAST. GIVE THEM 10 FEET AT THE MOST AND WE WILL NOT HAVE THIS BULLSHIT THEY, THE AMA GAMES. BECAUSE TOM DID NOT DESERVE NO FUCKIN PENALTY PERIOD. IT PISSES ME OFF BAD BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ALL IGNORANT TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING. ONLY FANS THAT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT AND JUST AGREE WITH WHATEVER.
Go pout somewhere else
Why
Motocross iq all Tom had to do was look back he didn't Deegan did safety consider that Tom is a 2x time mxgp Champ he sould know better 😂
Guy... Tom double doubled into that corner at a crazy angle. The 450 guys couldn't even do that.
Deegan went off 3 times lots of other riders went off the track but only Tom was penalized
I guess you completely missed or just didn’t listen to the explanation of how they determine whether or not a rider gets penalized or not.. and yes, plenty of riders went off the track but not all of those riders were on camera doing it or had an ama official there to see it and call it. They made their decision and it didn’t affect the results either way. Tom still got 3rd, like he should have and deegan got 1st, like he should have. Everyone isn’t going to always agree with the call they make, but we can’t change it and they gave a solid explanation of how the rule works and why they chose to call each one the way they did, so get over it and move on.
Yup,,,all AMA bs,,,again,,,just call it EVEN ,,,OR NOT AT ALL
BTW where you were standing with your cam on the outside of the turn is a risky spot as evidence by the recent rider going off the track penalty situation you had just discussed about right before...
Why is it that most motocross viewers on RUclips seem to hate anyone in power. They loathe the AMA, Feld, promotocross, Davey etc. All they do is complain about everything, even the announcers lol. I guess it's why Cooksey is so popular.
Thats just the new American culture. The more good any organization or person trys to do for the people or events to entertain them, the more they will hate them. If they treat them like garbage, take things away from them or just ignore them and let them suffer they will be loved. Its like this country has a community based mental illness. There's been an entire political movement based on lies and fear for fuks sake.
Probably because they have never experienced a punch in the face for saying something behind the safety of their keyboard.
Meanwhile interviewing Jordan Smith: Like like like like like like like like
You sound like you don't like things. Meanwhile, you chose the name @asdf12345447???????? LMFFFAAAOOO 🤡
😂
Still disagree with the decision, Deegan went off 3 times. If he slowed his Pace he wouldn't have been able to make that jump. It seems the decision was made because Deegan looked at the racetrack & Tom didn't?
Why wouldn’t he have been able to make that jump? You don’t have to slow all the way down, just have to go slower than race pace and come back on safely, all which he did. That is a factory fuckin 250f, it doesn’t need much speed to hit that jump, it’s not that damn big. Haiden actually did the right things or tried his best which is why he didn’t get docked. Deegan lost time, Tom gained time. Deegan made sure it was clear/safe and Tom just full blast jumped right back on track without even looking. All of these things are factored in. I’d be fine if they took away vialles penalty but it doesn’t matter how many times he went off or what jump he was able to hit after going off. It’s what you do while OFF the track and not gaining any advantage and making sure you come back on safely, which he did.
Tom knew his gap.
Thats why I always say to my wife when we watch local B and C class races. The fastest guy here aint even close to as fast as the 40th rider to line up on the gate at a pro national.
And that's not because local B or C guys are slow. If one of the 250/450 pros were at any other race, they'd be the fastest guy there.
Thanks for keeping it real.
More trackside video like that!
Awesome perspective
Totally like goosebumps all over watching those guys send it....i wish i was that brave!!!
They didnt even go over Haiden's off track excursion that should have been a penalty. The one where he almost hit a cameraman while throwing a roost off track..
Man stfu. He almost hit him right when he went off track and he gassed it as soon as he landed off track and then let right up and made sure it was clear to go back on. He didn’t go full speed, he had slowed down some and as dusty as the track was it doesn’t take much to have dirt roost off the back tire even at a slower pace. It looked worse than it actually was, stop crying. It’s been a week now, get tf over it. They made the right call.
We had a couple local pro guys ride with us and when we went to Unadilla for club rides. For them to make the field was a big deal but on the track riding with them it was incredible how fast they were
JT in his kitchen preparing a protein smoothie
Tom was well clear of hd, and and Pelletier himself says he maintained race pace, so the idea that Tom didnt know that he was still clear of hd doesnt hold water. And hd clearly lost time? He made the mega jump, and the question isnt whether he 'should' have jumped it, the point is thst if he was even able to jump it, it shows he didnt 'clearly' lose time.
Good to see there are flaggers this time
lol they address the Deegan off track incident that no one is complaining about, how about the one in Moto 1 where he doesn't look back and rails that hill and jumps it while in second
They did review it and he didn’t gain any time and he did slow down from the race pace. Jumping that jump isn’t hard even just cruising at a slower speed off track. It doesn’t take much for those factory bikes to hit a jump like that and he 100% did let up. At first he had gassed it when he first went off and then immediately let off some. You’ve gotta realize your brain doesn’t always work that fast and takes a half a second or so to catch up and communicate to that certain part of your body what to do. You can get a program that shows you the speed from his previous lap and that lap in that exact section and it tells you he slowed down, so stop just making up shit just because you THOUGHT it looked like he was going full speed just because he was able to hit a little jump after going off track
Lmfao...blah blah blah
Dude hit the biggest jump on the track with ease but let’s keep pretending this isn’t biased.
Word
That wasn’t the biggest jump on the track and I am just going to assume you d never ridden a 250f, much less a factory built 250f. It doesn’t take much to get over that jump and he didn’t go full throttle until he was getting back on the track at the bottom of the take off and that’s plenty of time to get over the jump still. These bikes have so much damn power and torque they don’t need much of a run to get over a jump that size, it wasn’t even that big. And you obviously have no clue how the rule works because he doesn’t have to come to a stop or just putt around when off the track. He just needs to slow it down some, make sure he doesn’t gain an advantage/position, and come back on safely and he did all of those things. If it was anyone other than deegan, none of y’all would be saying a damn word but because it was, you deegan haters have to make sure you get your two cents in and try and bash him in some way since you can’t talk about his actual skills on a bike. The kid went 1-1 and won legitimately, shut tf up and quit crying already.
@@davidbiagi2932 I started reading that and then realized how much Deegan nut hugging there was and stopped. Have a nice day
Last time a rode a 250f was in 08… was almost stock and pretty quick….. these factory 250s surely haul mail way quicker than that.🤷🏼♂️ a 60ft step up in 3rd would be a breeze. I could be wrong though
So did the rider he passed in the turn on the Kawasaki who was going a similar speed as Deegan. You gotta ride to know why and how he was able to clear that jump with little speed in doing so..
Good on AMA actually communicating and at least trying to explain regardless of outcome.
AMA got it right, glad they stood their ground and did what they felt was right for the circumstances.
@9:40 All those stakes on the outside of that turn is wild asf. Good way for another track owner to get sued and for good reason.
How do you think banners stay upright?
Anything Weege I’m watching right now.
A foreal outdoor track, how refreshing!!!
Weege. The AMA clearly got it wrong. If Deegan entered the track with enough speed to clear that table, he didn’t slow down enough. If it was an issue of safely getting over the table, he should have gone around it (slowly) and reenter the track safely.
The AMA blew it, the question is, why?
Who cares let’s move on! Excited for the 250 class this season it’s gonna be some good racing. Whoever wins.
Haven’t been on RUclips since Tuesday. Wanted to get some updates for tomorrow’s race and everybody’s still carrying on about this Deegan bullshit.
Bring back the Hangtown Halfpipe!
yah, great place to post up and watch nor cal style.
Please Jason,ask steward to call riders by their name during the races, instead of Tom ,Levi,Jo: VIALLE, KITCHEN and SHIMODA would be SO MUCH clear; Please... Thank you and congratulations again for your precious work. You are the Master of our sport.
AMA using Weege to do damage control after 3 ex champs JS7, RC4 and RV2 all think it was BS that Vialle got docked and Deegan didn't
One thing I can't get my head around: These guys (specifically, in this case, Jordan Smith), are professionals, right? That being a given fact, how do they get away with a comment like ".... it was a good learning weekend...."? Surely, all the learning had already been done in testing and practice, coupled with all the years leading up to this time.... I'd prefer an honest comment coming from these professionals if I were their sponsor, dishing out all the money.... Something like "I was giving it all I had, but I was too scared to go any faster, crash and then hurt myself... I got to practice more and learn where the absolute limit is, and get comfortable riding right up close to it all the time.".... "I wasn't feeling comfortable" just isn't a comment.... Comfortable is where I am watching on my couch on RUclips at home.... But I'm not getting paid to do that, dude. You're paid to get VERY uncomfortable... That's what you're paid to do....!
3:19 - “he didn’t asses the situation safely, we felt”… so how did the camera guy feel when deegan almost took him out and returned to hit a jump just like vialle? Conveniently skipped that part
This reminds me of the media during covid...they just say the same shit 100 times and it never makes any more sense than it did the first 😂 safe and effective safe and effectivesafe and effective
AMA got that one wrong.
Hangtown is a much better track and facility than Pala.
Weege needs to be protected at all cost
AMA.....Hastag NEVER CHANGE!!!
I thought Short had more sense, Deegan cleared the 75 ft from off the track. How much did Brian pay him ?
would you rather have haiden on the ground because people landed on him becuase he rolled it or would you rather have a healthy haiden that ultimately didn’t get penalized because he didn’t gain time
It was a big step up clear as day at 05:15 of the clip of it above and he landed on the back side of it. Not sure what race you were watching
@@lifeisgood3589 we were talking about fox raceway
@@doglover136_that’s an easy one, SPLAT.
@@doglover136_ preferably on the ground LOL
He accelerated to whole way off and back on the track never slowed down and jumped the jump
Cry more beta
🤣🤣😭😭
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢. Yes, he accelerated in a safe manner, but he didn't gain any time he lost time, and he looked back before he entered the track. Clean your ears and listen. But your hate and emotions get the best of you, beta boy.
if he rolled that triple jump he would have gotten landed on and probably really hurt
@doglover136_ You can't use reason with the haters... You can only ignore them like a whiney child.
10:42 sick
AMA got it right this time
Both should have been penalized or neither. Sounds like they were looking for an excuse not to affect a win (IMO)
neither
Why both when they literally explained the rule and why they penalized Tom? The main reasons Tom was penalized is he never at all let off, gained time compared to his previous lap, and he just jumped right back on without even looking to make sure nobody was coming. Haiden slowed down some and he looked back and made sure he was clear to enter the track and actually lost time and gained no advantage. Yall are seriously so dumb to listen to them explain the ruling for both and why and STILL can’t fucking understand.
They didnt penalize him because he looked back. Oh wow so thats all you gotta do, what a bs decision
He would have won anyways….
They all this footage to figure out penalties but they can't post fastest qualifier laps on RUclips...?
Those times are on the peacock broadcast on race day live… why do you need them on RUclips? Not even sure wtf you’re even talking about right now
@@davidbiagi2932 bro, race day live is like 3 hours and sometimes they don't even get the fastest laps. I'm saying they need to get the footage together and show it on the main race broadcast or at least post it on RUclips during the week. This is low hanging fruit
He's not kidding about the dirt, old track had some dirt mixed with a lot of marbles
The fact deegan hit a bigger jump straight off the track says alot.
skill
What does that matter? It doesn’t take much to hit that jump on a factory built 250f 🙄🤦♂️ It’s not like you have to slow down to a fucking crawl while off track, you just have to go slower than the race pace, which he did. Doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be able to still hit the jump and the size of the jump doesn’t matter at all and Tom hitting the double coming back on would have been fine had he actually tried to slow down and actually looked over to make sure it was clear, he did none of those things. They just explained the entire rule to you in detail and you idiots still can’t understand it.
@@JustinMaines throttle.
If there is 2 guys behind. That doesn't give you permission to pin it off the track to jump. If it is unsafe you should wait till those riders pass before re-entering the track.
I’m calling bullshit
How many times are you going to explain it Jason?
Damage control mode…. They know they messed up protecting/helping “The chosen one”
They aren’t protecting anyone. They made the right call based on the rules. Stop acting like he gets some special damn treatment when they penalized him multiple times in sx for doing the EXACT same things other riders did at the EXACT SAME TIME and none of those others got penalized. Tom NEVER let off or even looked to make sure it was safe to enter the track where he did, haiden did, and that’s why he wasn’t penalized and Tom was. Yall give up with this crying about Deegan shit already. The kid won straight up and y’all just want to try and bash him any way you can. Enjoy watching him continue to win, can’t wait to hear some more crying from you.
Deegan went off-track twice in the first moto, both caught on TV. The first one wasn't bad, he slowed down and lost time. The second one he kept it wide open as soon as he went off-track for as long as Vialle did, and barely lost any time to Kitchen in front of him. How come they're not talking about that little excursion? Did I miss something or are they pretending it didn't happen?
Vialle deserved his penalty, but so does Deegan for the first moto.
Joke time…Brian Tim cotter and Brennan walk into a room….plus it might be why he didn’t get docked
It’ll be forgotten about next weekend by the next race
Thnk you Weege!!! Awesome questions... I don't like his excuse for no penalty on Deegan... Sounds like political BS!!!! I guess it's ok that Deegan was roosting the guy on the side of the track but yet he didn't speed up? ! bunch of c##p!
Nice video👍🇺🇸
Why are Race Fans only seeing A Few Riders during Races? Why are we hearing "analysis" and opinions instead of Hearing about the Racing
I can see where they coming from
Riders now might be tryign to figure out just how much time they can "lose" off track without a penalty.
No fucking rider is going to intentionally go off fucking track. That is the dumbest shit anyone could ever say. Nobody is going to risk a one or more position penalty to try and gain a few tenths, which most of the time when you go off track you’re going to lose time, even if you go full throttle while off. You idiots will say any dumb shit won’t you?
I think they need to get rid of the drone. It makes the motocross look like a video game. You need high def stability cameras
Just wondering 🤩Why is Hang Tow Named Hang town!
Lotta hang time on that track!
In the old days they had a judge there that hanged 34 times.. hence Hangtown
Let them RACE Old school
Bar banging motocross racing 😎💪🔥
Weege this weak be a commentator not a interviewer with who's in the booth with you , tks racer x
Jett is still going to smoke everyone.
Im with ama decision on this one but the rule need some refinement to not give room for doubt. Get rid of subjectivity in the rules
Didn't even mention the other time he went off the track.
They need to just stop trying to justify penalizing Viale and Deegan. Both should have been penalized or both should have not been penalized. Bottom line is they screwed this up in a major way and now they are trying to Justify it!! It clearly makes them look bad. If you are going to penalize 1 you need to keep it consistent across the board. Calling Bullmess on "we look at data to see if they gained or lost position, it's impossible to see, you are talking in tenths or even thousandths. It's just sad and the more they try to come out and make videos and comment their justification it makes them look like the Democrats forcing it down our throats with the thought of if they say it enough then it's true and the people will have to believe it!!
Why does hangtown always lay down mulch at the podium? So weird
Pretty obvious. Deegs checks up and looks back. That is what ama wants.
I’m pretty sure Jordan Smith said “like” at least 100 times in his few minute interview. Now you won’t be able to not hear it.
Off track should literally require go back to the spot you left and rejoin. A mistake should cost you time not end in a debate of "but I didn't gain anything" If you can't keep on track you're riding out of control
That was the rule 'back in the day' and it created issues too.
@@JustinMaines OK another idea then off track incurs a time penalty given to your final time on top of no accelerating off track for safety.
@@WArockets Your talking to the wrong people, the AMA makes the rules, not all of us fans.
Mike’s words: “It’s important to get it right”
Mike’s actions: Constantly gets it wrong.
AMA has become a joke.
Here comes the cleanup crew…
Tom..Got Kicked out of a Rut..yes..he was on the gas some..but Maybe to not drift Further..into the dry, slick..trackside.. I didn't see him Gain anything..and was probably aware of where the rider behind him still was. Good no call there imo..too.
Smith = excuses, excuses, time to retire old man, Deegs is now the man
imo , the fact that deagan looked back for traffic etc. and there is a point where he maintained a slower pace while looking. can see there point tom just cut back on , not caring if he may have cut someone off. never looked
Which time? Haiden was off course 3x.
@@gogofastful Exactly and he almost killed that lady in one of the 3 occurrences.
Not his fault the person was standing right there. He almost hit her the moment he went off track, nothing he did while off track had anything to do with almost hitting her and you can argue him gassing it when he landed right in front of her got his bike straightened up so he wouldn’t. Right after he nailed the gas for quarter of a second, he let off some and cruised til he got back on and looked to make sure he was clear. They have programs that allow them to see their speed while off track, time they were off track, how far behind/infront of the guys behind and infront of him before and after, and all kinds of different angles. All of those things showed he didn’t go full speed and did slow down. You don’t have to come to a fucking crawl, just have to slow down frm the race speed and he did and he came back on safely. The ones that make and enforce the rules explained it to you in great detail, so how are y’all still crying about it? They made the right calls. Get tf over it you fucking crybaby
I’m a deegan hater n massive vialle fan- at this point whatever, its over, let the cards fall where they may. Imo just be consistent ama
I just appreciate the fact that your honest about where you stand lol. I like them both and think they are both great for the sport
Ama gives bs explanation to cover up.
And you, along with othere, will whine and cry about it all year, next year, the year after, etc.
Get past it give it up. The decisions been made.
They had to let old man deegen... write a check... thats why it took so long!!
Even with the explanation it’s pretty clear they screwed the pooch on the penalties. Also, very apparent that the rule needs modification when some of the riders don’t even understand it. Pretty hilarious excuse of why Deegan continued with the jump.
No rule that says he couldn't do the jump
@@lifeisgood3589 No really? 🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂
The more I see about this instance the more unfair I feel like it was. If it was la legit decision it wouldn’t still be getting brought up and excuses made.
I’ll save you all some time. Basically, deegan has a huge following and the ama didn’t want the heat from said following. Vialle is French so fark him.
😂😂😂😢😢😢😢😢. Poor little baby!! Go cry to momma. Grow up.
Hard with the Copium.
😂 Deegan jumped that with hardly any run at it, like a boss and launched it to the skies... With the capability to control it Midway for some sort of clean landing 💪
The kid's our 38beast🏁 Danger Danger!
Deegan went off the track more than once. Lawrence and Deegan are cash cows so rules are lighter.
Docking a rider a position because they went off the track and gained time is too harsh in my opinion maybe doc them the time they gained ?
But like, yeah like, like yeah, like no, no like, like me, like that, like blah like blah, like like like 😂😂
I love this show! But that determination was BULLSHIT!
Dude there is clips of deegan almost hitting photographer and gets a hand full of of throttle. Blah blah blah he didn’t make time.
yeah, but as you said, he ended up losing time
@@doglover136_no he didn’t
@@doglover136_haters don't like the facts😂
Brian and tim cotter took care of the situation…just like they took care of Brennan in that room
Neither should have been penalized. What are you supposed to do when u go off the track? Stop?
tom didn't deserve that
Hopefully Karma!
total BS, a very incompetent AMA official, we all know why he did not penalize Deegan
I was stationed while in the Air Force with a Pelletier back in the early 80s in Arizona and again in northern California in the 90's, he was a yes man too.
You’re one of those people who brings their military service into every conversation aren’t you? 😂
@@tannern2280 yes I am one of those guys that bring my military service in to every conversation.
@@patd4u2 gotta make sure everyone knows about those 2 rough years you served sitting behind a finance desk as a reservist and what it has to do with motocross lol.
@@tannern2280 yeah that was a rough two years for sure, how about your employment at McDonald's? Are you really excited about your $20 an hour raise?
@@patd4u2 oh look a nonner trying to crack a joke about people who work at McDonald’s lol. Good one.
Cooksey has y'all burnt now. Let's see what's happens tomorrow no more Bs please🙏
vialle's off track contributed to his momentum and speed and covered a large length of that section while off track. deegan's off track was an over shoot and cost him time to recover his momentum and position. deegan also was off track for a shorter length.
Yep well said make a lot of sense an if you think other wise your a chump
Man it would suck if none of these outside opinions mattered. Oh wait....
Opinion?!?!... US vs the world as always... sure...
All I heard was, let's go Deegan🎉
All yous guys' Mamma's. I still don't like it. Seems like we are splitting hairs. So if Vialle turned his head to the left at some point (whether he actually saw anything useful or not) the AMA woud not have penalized him? Sounds like it to me. I'll remember that for future reference!
I simply don't like the fact of Vialle going off the track and being penalized, and Deegan going off the track 3 times and not being penalized. I supose it's true that Deegan could have re-entered correctly three times, but ..... (heavy sigh)
What happened to basically being required to re-enter the track where you left it? Is that really old school? It would surely take the "I don't care" out of skipping off the track. I guess it would open other wormy cans though ..... (Like "I was forced off the track! ", et cetera)
Mike p is weak . There was a whole group . = blaming others. There’s a whole heap of different footage and timing = and we are keep it to ourself s . Both Tom and dangr went off track 1 penalised 1 handed the win. He is good enough to win on his own his done the hard yards he dosent need Mike p playing favourites.
Handed the win ?
@@lifeisgood3589 yer it looks that way ama say no penalty but everyone is talking about it = handed the win . Takes away frm the kid
@@robertjolliffe4164 You can't hand a rider a win who won the race by finishing first.
@@lifeisgood3589 Tom finished red but his results say 4th ?
Not buying it
Cry about it.
Didn’t even watch the video and I already liked this, because I think Smith is such a bullshitter
Cry more
@@MichaelAMyers1957Deegan glazer in every comment defending a kid lmao weird
Same Jordan smith is full of shit I don’t think he is willing to risk going podium speed with the new contract signed but we will see tomorrow 🤷♂️
manor? really? (it's manner)
The deegans have the AMA in their back pocket 😅
Nobody would have cared if neither of them got a penalty its the one and not the other that people dont like. Starting to sound like "ama motocross...brought to you by pfizer " 😂 stop treating us like we believe everything you tell us.
Nobody would care period if Deegan was not part of it.
@@lifeisgood3589 disagree, definitely makes it a way bigger thing than it should be. You have fanboys coming out the woodwork and haters complaining too so it definitely blown out of proportion