The reason why you are not getting them is because your elected officials are convinced that trains are communism... Floridians should start a larger bipartisan advocacy movement for transportion if they want more mass transit.
@@AriaTheFoxVT Yes sadly, every other 1st world country has a form of universal health care where the people see health care as a right and not a privilege, it's why the USA is a borderline 3rd world country, parts of the USA are most definitely 3rd world, and that's in the richest country in the world, the USA has everything it could possibly want and it still manages to mess it up. 45,000 Americans die EVERY YEAR because they can not afford to see a doctor, and 58,000 Americans were lost in the Vietnam War that lasted 20 years.
@@tonyburzio4107 I think it's a good point. I mean, we're talking about projects having absolutely nothing to do from one another. But more importantly, projects done in America. A country known for it's genuine incomptetence regarding rail and public transit, with incompetent politicians, incompetent companies, incompetent engineers on these problems, and an incompetent federal, state and local administration. American roads are already done with enough incompetence, just like the towns they deserve. Let's be honest, the incompetent population also does not help. Americans are not competent enough to deal with this kind of technology and projects. I'm french, it's pretty obvious we have better engineers, politicians and companies for this kind of problems. And waaaayyyy less corruptions than the US, and have had for the past 70 years. Same for Italy, Spain, Japan, China, Switzerland or, let's be honest, a shithole like Russia. Mexico is showing it's able to deal with these projects, like Morocco, India, Saudis, Turkey or Indonesia. The US will never be able to, let's face it.
Florida can expand the I-4 until it's the same as Ontario Highway 401 in Toronto and like the 401 does it would still jam up. Brightline should go not just to the Airport but also to Saint Petersburg with express and local tracks.
Highway expansion is a waste of money. It's NEVER a long-term solution. LA has expanded multiple freeways in the past, and the traffic is just as bad a year after the expansion. Mass transit is the solution.
@@mrxman581Indeed, as someone in the adjacent metro area to LA, transit needs to be greatly improved and built here. The freeways here get insanely crowded at many times, expanding more freewys is just a waste of money. More room for cars means more room for traffic.
Wasn't Ybor City picked because of the right of way access? How do you get from Ybor City to downtown St. Petersburg? Don't you need billions of dollars to build the bridge over the water to get there? I would think that would not be cost effective no matter how you spin it. Or am I missing sometihng?
Right but if it goes to the airport first, it will never get another station to the east, let's be realistic here. There needs to be on in Plant City, Brandon(because let's face facts it bigger and has more people than some of the incorporated "cities" in the area), and Ybor and only then should it go to the airport. Though if we are being truly realistic it should only be in Brandon and the airport.
@@mrxman581That’s why the state doesn’t want to subsidize it every year. If you turn it into a money losing operation, it’s going to fail anyways and what good does that do for Florida?
People always want public transit to be profitable, wait till they see how much road only infrastructure costs. You'd be lucky to live in a county that's not in debt or about to be due to roads.
@@tonyburzio4107 I agree, I never said roads are bad. Just forcing literally everyone to drive their own car via poor choice in development patterns ends up holding up said freight. Remember, you don't get stuck in traffic, you are the traffic.
nope...Brightline MUST talk with Amtrak to join their staition in downtown...this system only have success if it goes from one center to another...in best case Miami->Orlando->Tampa->St.Petersburg...also with as many as possible stops in between an express service that stops at downtowns, (air)ports, themeparks, convention-centers...
@@christianbezner372 An Amtrak/Brightline connection would be great as well for those who want to ride out of state, but RaisedLetter is right about getting SunRail to the Orlando airport. That allows Brightline riders or Orlando flyers to connect with a commuter system (SunRail) that can get them to other Florida destinations.
@@nolantherailfan5048 you mean buying them from the state...can't see that will happen...more realistic is they start a "have state/have privat" owend company...but I m not sure that possible in the US
Guy from unincorporated Hillsborough County says people in the County want access to it. Yet people in the County have been the major impediment to mass transit in the area for decades. How does the cognitive dissonance not make their heads spin?
Our rail service is third world. I would love to be able to walk a few blocks, hop on a light rail downtown, and then take an inter-city train to other places in Florida or to neighboring states.
Extension For Brightline East (Regular Brightline) Can Connect To Miamiport, Disney, & Tampa & New Projects Can Be Made (1 Project Already Underway Called Brightline West [P.S extensions for Brightline West Can Be To Phoenix, Salt Lake City, & Denver]) To The Texas Triangle (Dallas/Fort Worth, Houston, San Antonio, & Austin) North East Corredor (Washington District of Colombia, Baltimore, New York City, Boston) From Charlotte To Atlanta & Many More
Maybe the Sunrail or Tri-rail can connect to those places I already know that Sunrail is doing the International Drive project now and Brightline won't be stopping there since it is a high-speed rail service
They got to make it happen already and stop thinking about it so much ppl need that train from Orlando to Tampa and from Tampa to Orlando is time Asap is it gonna happen yes or no how soon ??
You know Brightline can always order more rolling stock in order to add different kinds of trains. Some trains can stop at more stations while others act as express type service. They're actually getting more passenger cars soon to accommodate more people. I'd also assume that the right-of-way will be double tracked unless stated otherwise, so overtakes could likely be arranged, especially with freight trains out of the picture.
@@Shytot-1 Yes. Brightline doesn’t have a need for those kind of tracks yet, as the services are far enough apart to not require overtakes. However, in the case that Brightline does establish express trains, they could probably use freight bypasses at each station. The bypasses will likely be used by Brightline once commuter service is established along the route as well.
@@Shytot-1 I wish more people would just be more appreciative of the train ride than just getting to places faster. Time isn’t even money in these days, time is more than money. Also Brightline isn’t doing anything cheap if you didn’t notice the large bills they’ve been paying off to get where they are now. Expanding north wasn’t cheap, expanding west to Orlando wasn’t cheap. They have a strategic development team so that they aren’t blowing their money off on things they don’t need. You should be a little more considerate towards Brightline’s efforts.
The terms “Government leaders” and “fast track” are mutually exclusive. Brightline Florida went from planning (as a venture of Fortress holdings) to running between MIA-MCO in under a decade BECAUSE of a lack of government intervention. That said, there were a specific set of circumstances that allowed the above to happen. Those are now history. Between that and the Orlando fathers sticking their noses into this matter a passenger railroad will NOT be built along I-4.
Okay and California is doing the same thing. CAHSR shouldn’t be taking this long. At least DeSantis isn’t preventing Brightline from accessing right-of-way to expand to Tampa. Brightline is doing well on its own.
Did ever cross your mind to fully explore what the reason is for the traffic volume? Did it ever cross your mind that if it is so necessary that some private enterprise would be in their fighting tooth and nail to build it to capitalize on it?
Yeah and how’s CAHSR going? DeSantis isn’t preventing Brightline, Florida just isn’t directly assisting them. But the right-of-way is available for Brightline to expand. Additionally, Brightline is doing well as a private company compared to that government mess over west. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t CAHSR a consequence of the Democrats?
@@MrMarshmallow26 Don't compare apples and oranges. CAHSR will have a much higher top and average speed compared to Brightline, will have grade separated tracks and will be much longer. And Brightline still received subsidies from the state and almost all tracks used were already there, they didnt need to build them from scracth or buy the land.
@@bonaz11 All of that shouldn’t take as long as it did. I’m sorry but it just does not. Something is not right with CAHSR’s price tag and the number of years it has taken to get this going, even just acquiring the land. Whether you think so or not, there has been mismanagement at CAHSR despite appearing to be moving along as well as poor project planning. It just doesn’t work like this.
Have you ridden the train lately. I’ve ridden Brightline six times from Orlando and all the staff were extremely great, no crashes, trains on time. !!!
@@enjoystraveling Unfortunately I have. Train late in both directions. No announcement when train was pulling into station, I almost missed my stop. Rude employee which I eventually got fired. Run by stupid millennials.
@@stevefox898 Sorry had that experience very different from my six experiences of great experiences. I didn’t meet any rude employees, but quite the opposite, and I noticed that all the stops were announced
Brightline has managed to provide higher-speed rail service between Orlando and Miami within the 6 years spent between 2017 and 2023. I think they're genuinely onto something.
Brightline won’t be profitable. Not enough ridership in a car based society. Keep our tax dollars out of it. Don’t leave us on the hook to subsidize a for profit business year after year.
I actually disagree - Having a shuttle/stop to the airport will make it profitable. Lots of people in SE Florida take Tri - Trail to airport because it saves money on parking/car rental/uber/taxi. The tourists might start using it more so than local residents who don't want to rent a car. The local residents might use it to save on parking. This might work - if done correctly. Also if they do it wrong - it won't work. It also opens up Orlando airport to compete with airports in SE florida. Which isn't much of a draw because Miami/Fort Lauderdale/Orlando airports are all great airports with flights to most destinations around US and a few international flights (at reasonable prices).
They run a lot of trains. North and southbound. The traffic back up at every crossing during rush hour is maddening. You do NOT want this crap, trust me. They then need to rent a car so there’s that entire aspect too. It’s 💩!
There are two Brightline companies. One is a decoration for commercial lease buildings, like palm trees or marble entrance ways. The other is a huge land development company that leases out commercial buildings that include a really cool train. The job of the train version of Brightline is to not lose operating money, the other Brightline pays off the construction loans with money from the leases the railroad helped to sell. So yes, taken together it's losing money, until you add in the rent profits. Then, WOWZA!!!
@@tonyburzio4107 Nice explanation sir 👍. I put it in with McDonalds then. They are a real estate company. Delicious French fries are just the allure. Liberty Media owns F1 racing. It’s now a WWF glitter filled race, but that’s just the vehicle to launder money. Pun intended. I got it ! 👍
Floridians ain't going to go for that Come on now they're not even have 24-hour buses You're wasting tax dollars better off figuring out something else And I agree I 4 sucks when you get rid of the cars that are piling up on Nebraska and Florida Maybe if we can double decker on i-4 Make two highways one above one below People might go for that
@@lovly2cu725 This is Florida, It floods every summer has unbearable humidity to live in beaches are filled with oil especially the Gulf of Mexico. We have red tide sinkholes phosphate If that touches dry air it blows up Why would anybody want to come to Florida lol. The humidity so bad at times People go psycho end up going to the hospital for like 3 days or in jail. California's is way different Y'all want to look good, Stealing clothes We don't care about how we look we're just trying to survive.
A double-decker 100 mile long expansion to I-4 not only would be the longest 'bridge' in the world, but also way more expensive to taxpayers than simply building a train. Quite possibly the most expense infrastructure project in U.S. history. Your lack of logic is beyond anything I've read on RUclips. It's idiotic beyond comprehension. Mind-boggling. My Goodness.....
@@buckeyechris21 I'm stuck in Hillsborough County state of mind I can't leave without paying a fee but I can't work in Hillsborough County for free I don't know what I'm going to do
@@buckeyechris21 thank you for choosing for me. How are you going to get everybody on a train If we can't even get people to ride a bus. Or have buses that go to different parts of the county, Just be 24 hours.
he didnt lose and he has nothing to say about it. its the state and possibly the transportation secy when he isnt on maternity leave. everything isnt trump, but it shows youdontknowwhatyoudontknow.
There are two Brightline companies. One is a decoration for commercial lease buildings, like palm trees or marble entrance ways. The other is a huge land development company that leases out commercial buildings that include a really cool train. The job of the train version of Brightline is to not lose operating money, the other Brightline pays off the construction loans with money from the leases the railroad helped to sell. So yes, take together it's losing money, until you add in the rent profits. Then, WOWZA!!!
They kill about 1 pedestrian a month down here in Fort Lauderdale. I see minimum 5 trains, 10 total every MORNING or EVENING. They are a traffic HEAD ACHE! Defund Briteline! They suck.
I can see this train coming down middle I 4 you think people are not going to have accidents bull sh-t when 1 car is broke down on I 4 traffic comes to a stand still and they take there eyes off the road ! Just Crazy ! You want to fix I 4 ! Some suggestion ! Quit dumping 4 lanes into 2 at I 4 + 275---- Put a bypass through Tampa from I 4 over 275 only exit is rt 60 to airport + st Pete only ---- The first 3 on ramps to I 4 + 275 like NY they have railroad crossing arms there to regulate the on flow during rush hour traffic----- Quit dumping 2 lanes of traffic on to I 4 like rt 27 ----- Shut down DOT Scales on I 4 during rush hour it stops or slow traffic down during rush hour----- When a police offer pull some one over on I 4 they should take them to the closet exit to do there busyness safely----- I 4 is one the most dangers road in the USA due to its by pass over I 4 which blocks vision whats on the other side ( Like when your doing 70 mile an hour and get on top off a by pass traffic is stopped dead in front off you ! Wow just hoping you can stop + hoping the cars behind you do not kill you and you family ! ) Who ever is in charge off I 4 have some common since !
This is smart. People won’t need to be renting cars if there is a train connection and their flight lands in Orlando.
There are also many city buses that are at the Orlando airport
We NEEEEED more mass transit rail systems now!
Lets get blacks back on city buses like the 1950,s!!!!
The reason why you are not getting them is because your elected officials are convinced that trains are communism... Floridians should start a larger bipartisan advocacy movement for transportion if they want more mass transit.
Sadly you live in the USA where such things are seen as socialism.
@@Shytot-1 sadly 😥
@@AriaTheFoxVT Yes sadly, every other 1st world country has a form of universal health care where the people see health care as a right and not a privilege, it's why the USA is a borderline 3rd world country, parts of the USA are most definitely 3rd world, and that's in the richest country in the world, the USA has everything it could possibly want and it still manages to mess it up. 45,000 Americans die EVERY YEAR because they can not afford to see a doctor, and 58,000 Americans were lost in the Vietnam War that lasted 20 years.
Florida Legislators: "I4 is at a breaking point!"
Also Florida Legislators: Refused to give funding to public transit options for years
They don't have a choice. Half of the republicans work for car companies and would never allow car sales to drop..
@@Rasarel :(
Public transport, like in California that has used up all its money and has built a couple of bridges and no track?
@@RasarelCalifornia is a blue state and yet they are worse than Florida.
@@tonyburzio4107 I think it's a good point. I mean, we're talking about projects having absolutely nothing to do from one another.
But more importantly, projects done in America. A country known for it's genuine incomptetence regarding rail and public transit, with incompetent politicians, incompetent companies, incompetent engineers on these problems, and an incompetent federal, state and local administration. American roads are already done with enough incompetence, just like the towns they deserve. Let's be honest, the incompetent population also does not help.
Americans are not competent enough to deal with this kind of technology and projects. I'm french, it's pretty obvious we have better engineers, politicians and companies for this kind of problems. And waaaayyyy less corruptions than the US, and have had for the past 70 years. Same for Italy, Spain, Japan, China, Switzerland or, let's be honest, a shithole like Russia. Mexico is showing it's able to deal with these projects, like Morocco, India, Saudis, Turkey or Indonesia. The US will never be able to, let's face it.
Florida can expand the I-4 until it's the same as Ontario Highway 401 in Toronto and like the 401 does it would still jam up. Brightline should go not just to the Airport but also to Saint Petersburg with express and local tracks.
See also the Katy Expressway in Houston
Highway expansion is a waste of money. It's NEVER a long-term solution. LA has expanded multiple freeways in the past, and the traffic is just as bad a year after the expansion. Mass transit is the solution.
Agreed, hopefully Brightline can bring a proper regional rail network to complement it, especially a line between Tampa and Orlando.
@@mrxman581Indeed, as someone in the adjacent metro area to LA, transit needs to be greatly improved and built here. The freeways here get insanely crowded at many times, expanding more freewys is just a waste of money. More room for cars means more room for traffic.
Wasn't Ybor City picked because of the right of way access? How do you get from Ybor City to downtown St. Petersburg? Don't you need billions of dollars to build the bridge over the water to get there? I would think that would not be cost effective no matter how you spin it. Or am I missing sometihng?
It should go to the airport. Let’s not be stupid. It should have a stop in Ybor, but it should go all the way to the airport.
Right but if it goes to the airport first, it will never get another station to the east, let's be realistic here. There needs to be on in Plant City, Brandon(because let's face facts it bigger and has more people than some of the incorporated "cities" in the area), and Ybor and only then should it go to the airport. Though if we are being truly realistic it should only be in Brandon and the airport.
To entice Brightline to build, you need a pretty large undeveloped area near the station.The money is in land, not trains.
Yes brightline is at its core a real estate company. @tonyburzio4107
@tonyburzio4107 That's why mass transit should be public. It's a service, first and foremost. Not a for-profit venture.
@@mrxman581That’s why the state doesn’t want to subsidize it every year. If you turn it into a money losing operation, it’s going to fail anyways and what good does that do for Florida?
i4 is a fkn joke. FL needs to do something quick
Florida just needs to help, not hinder, the private operation.
They have been reporting on a train from Tampa to Orlando Since 2005
ACTUALLy. It's Disney traffic and The Orlando hump by That holy land and mall. Don't tell a soul .. Or they might get mad you pointed it out
I-4 corridor between the Tampa & Orlando metro area is now a parking lot, as many other areas are nationwide.
that would be good. also need a stop in Melbourne
Yeah, a train across the Pacific Ocean to Australia would really be impressive!
@@crowmob-yo6ryI think they meant Melbourne Florida😭🧌
People always want public transit to be profitable, wait till they see how much road only infrastructure costs. You'd be lucky to live in a county that's not in debt or about to be due to roads.
Roads move freight too, and that makes an amazing amount of money through taxes when the goods are sold.
@@tonyburzio4107 I agree, I never said roads are bad. Just forcing literally everyone to drive their own car via poor choice in development patterns ends up holding up said freight. Remember, you don't get stuck in traffic, you are the traffic.
It's a really good idea. The traffic is unbelievable between Orlando and Tampa.
Yes yes yes
Enough with the delays! This is ridiculous.
The traffics on i4 from Tampa to Orlando is TERRIBLE
Politicians stalling things as usual. This thing should already be running.
Now if only Sunrail can get trains running to Orlando Airport...
nope...Brightline MUST talk with Amtrak to join their staition in downtown...this system only have success if it goes from one center to another...in best case Miami->Orlando->Tampa->St.Petersburg...also with as many as possible stops in between an express service that stops at downtowns, (air)ports, themeparks, convention-centers...
@@christianbezner372 An Amtrak/Brightline connection would be great as well for those who want to ride out of state, but RaisedLetter is right about getting SunRail to the Orlando airport. That allows Brightline riders or Orlando flyers to connect with a commuter system (SunRail) that can get them to other Florida destinations.
@@christianbezner372how about brightline takes over amtrak
@@nolantherailfan5048 you mean buying them from the state...can't see that will happen...more realistic is they start a "have state/have privat" owend company...but I m not sure that possible in the US
Guy from unincorporated Hillsborough County says people in the County want access to it. Yet people in the County have been the major impediment to mass transit in the area for decades. How does the cognitive dissonance not make their heads spin?
Our rail service is third world. I would love to be able to walk a few blocks, hop on a light rail downtown, and then take an inter-city train to other places in Florida or to neighboring states.
You don't want to pay for such a system.
@@tonyburzio4107 I don't? I'm already paying for horrible car insurance
Extension For Brightline East (Regular Brightline) Can Connect To Miamiport, Disney, & Tampa & New Projects Can Be Made (1 Project Already Underway Called Brightline West [P.S extensions for Brightline West Can Be To Phoenix, Salt Lake City, & Denver]) To The Texas Triangle (Dallas/Fort Worth, Houston, San Antonio, & Austin) North East Corredor (Washington District of Colombia, Baltimore, New York City, Boston) From Charlotte To Atlanta & Many More
Maybe the Sunrail or Tri-rail can connect to those places I already know that Sunrail is doing the International Drive project now and Brightline won't be stopping there since it is a high-speed rail service
DO IT, ALREADY!
They got to make it happen already and stop thinking about it so much ppl need that train from Orlando to Tampa and from Tampa to Orlando is time Asap is it gonna happen yes or no how soon ??
US is so behind
Not really
get on with it
They've been discussing it for years, but they can't settle on a financially feasible route or funding, particularly where it will go through Orlando.
Disney is being a jerk, like usual.
The more stations to stop at, the slower the train, you can't add faster trains because it only has one track.
You know Brightline can always order more rolling stock in order to add different kinds of trains. Some trains can stop at more stations while others act as express type service. They're actually getting more passenger cars soon to accommodate more people. I'd also assume that the right-of-way will be double tracked unless stated otherwise, so overtakes could likely be arranged, especially with freight trains out of the picture.
@@MrMarshmallow26 Do they have passing tracks at the stations where a train can wait to be overtaken by a faster train?
@@Shytot-1 Yes. Brightline doesn’t have a need for those kind of tracks yet, as the services are far enough apart to not require overtakes. However, in the case that Brightline does establish express trains, they could probably use freight bypasses at each station. The bypasses will likely be used by Brightline once commuter service is established along the route as well.
@@MrMarshmallow26 This is what happens when they do things on the cheap.
@@Shytot-1 I wish more people would just be more appreciative of the train ride than just getting to places faster. Time isn’t even money in these days, time is more than money.
Also Brightline isn’t doing anything cheap if you didn’t notice the large bills they’ve been paying off to get where they are now. Expanding north wasn’t cheap, expanding west to Orlando wasn’t cheap. They have a strategic development team so that they aren’t blowing their money off on things they don’t need. You should be a little more considerate towards Brightline’s efforts.
DeSantis SUCKS.
Amen. Worst governor in the history of the state.
And yet he is running the only state in the Union that has created a new mass transit railroad in 100 years.
@@tonyburzio4107Dont bring logic into this
The terms “Government leaders” and “fast track” are mutually exclusive. Brightline Florida went from planning (as a venture of Fortress holdings) to running between MIA-MCO in under a decade BECAUSE of a lack of government intervention.
That said, there were a specific set of circumstances that allowed the above to happen. Those are now history. Between that and the Orlando fathers sticking their noses into this matter a passenger railroad will NOT be built along I-4.
DeSatan said hel fight any taxpayer dollars to go toward this rail system. And there you have it folks. Num nuts at its best. 🙃
Okay and California is doing the same thing. CAHSR shouldn’t be taking this long. At least DeSantis isn’t preventing Brightline from accessing right-of-way to expand to Tampa. Brightline is doing well on its own.
And yet he is running the only state in the Union that has created a new mass transit railroad in 100 years.
Ah, the consequences of having a Republican run state. Vote Democrat and get better public and mass transit.
CA HSR won’t ever be finished. LOL😅.
Did ever cross your mind to fully explore what the reason is for the traffic volume? Did it ever cross your mind that if it is so necessary that some private enterprise would be in their fighting tooth and nail to build it to capitalize on it?
Yeah and how’s CAHSR going? DeSantis isn’t preventing Brightline, Florida just isn’t directly assisting them. But the right-of-way is available for Brightline to expand. Additionally, Brightline is doing well as a private company compared to that government mess over west. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t CAHSR a consequence of the Democrats?
@@MrMarshmallow26 Don't compare apples and oranges. CAHSR will have a much higher top and average speed compared to Brightline, will have grade separated tracks and will be much longer. And Brightline still received subsidies from the state and almost all tracks used were already there, they didnt need to build them from scracth or buy the land.
@@bonaz11 All of that shouldn’t take as long as it did. I’m sorry but it just does not. Something is not right with CAHSR’s price tag and the number of years it has taken to get this going, even just acquiring the land. Whether you think so or not, there has been mismanagement at CAHSR despite appearing to be moving along as well as poor project planning. It just doesn’t work like this.
Brightline is the biggest joke out. Late running trains, numerous fatalities, rude employees and customer service which doesn't give a damn.
Have you ridden the train lately. I’ve ridden Brightline six times from Orlando and all the staff were extremely great, no crashes, trains on time. !!!
@@enjoystraveling
Unfortunately I have. Train late in both directions. No announcement when train was pulling into station, I almost missed my stop. Rude employee which I eventually got fired. Run by stupid millennials.
@@stevefox898 Sorry had that experience very different from my six experiences of great experiences.
I didn’t meet any rude employees, but quite the opposite, and I noticed that all the stops were announced
@@enjoystraveling
Different passengers have different experiences. No two trips are the same.
@@stevefox898 of course. I think everybody knows that already.
But they never do nothing
thats a double negative
They have done more in Florida than anywhere else in over 50 years.
Um, what?
Brightline has managed to provide higher-speed rail service between Orlando and Miami within the 6 years spent between 2017 and 2023. I think they're genuinely onto something.
15 years to argue for a 3 year build time.
Socialism. Just build another lane.
I agree, the government building more lanes is socialism. We should privatize the highways!
There's alligators smarter than you.
Irrelevant subject connection.
The government heavily subsidises petrol.
Brightline won’t be profitable. Not enough ridership in a car based society. Keep our tax dollars out of it. Don’t leave us on the hook to subsidize a for profit business year after year.
I actually disagree - Having a shuttle/stop to the airport will make it profitable. Lots of people in SE Florida take Tri - Trail to airport because it saves money on parking/car rental/uber/taxi. The tourists might start using it more so than local residents who don't want to rent a car. The local residents might use it to save on parking. This might work - if done correctly. Also if they do it wrong - it won't work. It also opens up Orlando airport to compete with airports in SE florida. Which isn't much of a draw because Miami/Fort Lauderdale/Orlando airports are all great airports with flights to most destinations around US and a few international flights (at reasonable prices).
They run a lot of trains. North and southbound.
The traffic back up at every crossing during rush hour is maddening.
You do NOT want this crap, trust me.
They then need to rent a car so there’s that entire aspect too.
It’s 💩!
@@guybeingaguyI4 corridor is not the same as Fort Lauderdale/Federal Highway, minimal crossings with streets…
There are two Brightline companies. One is a decoration for commercial lease buildings, like palm trees or marble entrance ways. The other is a huge land development company that leases out commercial buildings that include a really cool train. The job of the train version of Brightline is to not lose operating money, the other Brightline pays off the construction loans with money from the leases the railroad helped to sell. So yes, taken together it's losing money, until you add in the rent profits. Then, WOWZA!!!
@@tonyburzio4107 Nice explanation sir 👍.
I put it in with McDonalds then.
They are a real estate company. Delicious French fries are just the allure.
Liberty Media owns F1 racing. It’s now a WWF glitter filled race, but that’s just the vehicle to launder money. Pun intended.
I got it ! 👍
Floridians ain't going to go for that Come on now they're not even have 24-hour buses You're wasting tax dollars better off figuring out something else And I agree I 4 sucks when you get rid of the cars that are piling up on Nebraska and Florida Maybe if we can double decker on i-4 Make two highways one above one below People might go for that
so you have never been in los angeles traffic?
@@lovly2cu725 This is Florida, It floods every summer has unbearable humidity to live in beaches are filled with oil especially the Gulf of Mexico. We have red tide sinkholes phosphate If that touches dry air it blows up Why would anybody want to come to Florida lol. The humidity so bad at times People go psycho end up going to the hospital for like 3 days or in jail. California's is way different Y'all want to look good, Stealing clothes We don't care about how we look we're just trying to survive.
A double-decker 100 mile long expansion to I-4 not only would be the longest 'bridge' in the world, but also way more expensive to taxpayers than simply building a train. Quite possibly the most expense infrastructure project in U.S. history. Your lack of logic is beyond anything I've read on RUclips. It's idiotic beyond comprehension. Mind-boggling. My Goodness.....
@@buckeyechris21 I'm stuck in Hillsborough County state of mind I can't leave without paying a fee but I can't work in Hillsborough County for free I don't know what I'm going to do
@@buckeyechris21 thank you for choosing for me. How are you going to get everybody on a train If we can't even get people to ride a bus. Or have buses that go to different parts of the county, Just be 24 hours.
Losing money but they will expand. All this to make a President who is lost happy.
he didnt lose and he has nothing to say about it. its the state and possibly the transportation secy when he isnt on maternity leave. everything isnt trump, but it shows youdontknowwhatyoudontknow.
@@lovly2cu725 wrong.he wants us on trains like he did in the 1960.s. so how many times have you ridden?
@@Patrick-yh5yd How many trains in Florida go where people want to go? Now shut up and go take your medication.
There are two Brightline companies. One is a decoration for commercial lease buildings, like palm trees or marble entrance ways. The other is a huge land development company that leases out commercial buildings that include a really cool train. The job of the train version of Brightline is to not lose operating money, the other Brightline pays off the construction loans with money from the leases the railroad helped to sell. So yes, take together it's losing money, until you add in the rent profits. Then, WOWZA!!!
If he lost, how come you're complaining about it more than he is?
He's actually caring about infrastructure in this country.
They kill about 1 pedestrian a month down here in Fort Lauderdale.
I see minimum 5 trains, 10 total every MORNING or EVENING.
They are a traffic HEAD ACHE!
Defund Briteline!
They suck.
Why are pedestrians playing on tracks?
Motorists and pedestrians need to observe the crossing gates, stop before the tracks, and be aware of their surroundings.
Let's pull up some stats on how many Floridians have been killed in car crashes, shall we?
If you do, you will find out that we are a distant third in rail fatalities. California leads the nation.
@@SoCalHighIron Why not suicide?
Why not murders?
DUI’s?
Let’s try to compare apples to at least another fruit shall we?
Just damn……
I can see this train coming down middle I 4 you think people are not going to have accidents bull sh-t when 1 car is broke down on I 4 traffic comes to a stand still and they take there eyes off the road ! Just Crazy ! You want to fix I 4 ! Some suggestion ! Quit dumping 4 lanes into 2 at I 4 + 275---- Put a bypass through Tampa from I 4 over 275 only exit is rt 60 to airport + st Pete only ---- The first 3 on ramps to I 4 + 275 like NY they have railroad crossing arms there to regulate the on flow during rush hour traffic----- Quit dumping 2 lanes of traffic on to I 4 like rt 27 ----- Shut down DOT Scales on I 4 during rush hour it stops or slow traffic down during rush hour----- When a police offer pull some one over on I 4 they should take them to the closet exit to do there busyness safely----- I 4 is one the most dangers road in the USA due to its by pass over I 4 which blocks vision whats on the other side ( Like when your doing 70 mile an hour and get on top off a by pass traffic is stopped dead in front off you ! Wow just hoping you can stop + hoping the cars behind you do not kill you and you family ! ) Who ever is in charge off I 4 have some common since !
its been a while since i was on i4 and no traffic at the time. the issue in los angeles is merging. they dont have dedicated on off lanes.