If Brightline West and Texas Central are successful that really opens the door. We've never had a real HSR line, Acela is semi-HSR, less than half its route operates above 125mph and there's only 56mi where it can actually run at its 150mph top speed.
It doesn't cut travel time n emissions. People still need cars. Don't bring the necessity of owning cars to use rails. That's dumb idea. Other HSR friendly countries do not require cars to use rails. HSR is expensive. This private company will eventually sell the rails to government. You need at least 80 million annual ridership. You have to pick n drop people at each location to generate lo5s of ridership. If it's point to point, it's not going to work. Dream on Texas. Texas is an oil Red state. What will it make work.? Stop at major city n town. Pick n drop as many people at each station. Good luck in the empty desert. Oh, check Japan, you don't need cars at each station. Ideally, CAHSR makes more sense because it passes more cities. The problem is rail supporters hate public transportation. Besides SF, public transportation at future CAHSR has below F grade. HSR supporters are hypocrite. They keep mentioning reduce emissions, but they will not do anything to promote local public transportation.
Japan's bullet train was also years over the estimate and multiple times over budget. Nowadays, no one gives a crap and just talks about how amazing and convenient it is. HSR is definitely needed and will be amazingly convenient. Cost and time shouldn't be a factor.
@@Da__goat why not emulate the model of highways and airports? The state/federal government built the infrastructure, but private companies pay back into it to operate mass transport such as buses and airplanes
@@ernestz.9260 regional networks can easily extend to country wide networks. of course, no ones saying make a rail line over 300 miles of emptyness out in idaho. but this country is plenty dense for rail, especially the east coast and southwest
That's in the long term plan. To build it to LA Union up front would've more than doubled the cost of the project, remember this is a mostly privately funded project, Brightline had to go with what they could afford, federal and state grants only fund a small part of the project, Brightline is paying for most of this themselves. There is also an opportunity to install line upgrades and electrification on the San Bernidino line that would improve line speeds and capacity for Metrolink as they will be ferrying Brigthline passengers to LA. Electrification could also allow the Brightline trains to do the RC to LA portion on the existing Metrolink track without the extreme expense of building the HSR line all the way to LA, the RC to LA portion would just be at a max of 125mph depending on line upgrades.
@@Da__goat you fail to mention the amount of tax payer money wasted on highways that don't even make a single dime. Not to mention how corrupt oil lobbyists have been since the 50s when they bulldozed neighborhoods with their pockets being the only thing that matters to them. If anything, corrupt Republicans are the reason these projects stall and become prolonged. It's a political 'power trip' play to make the other party look incompetent. We need trains, it literally benefits everyone, and with a thorough discussion anyone would come to that conclusion. It alleviates traffic , provides ALTERNATIVES to one singular form of transportation ( which is very restraining and cost consuming), and generates economic growth through transit oriented development and the impact it has on surrounding areas. So tell me, how is a train bad? And labeling everything that benefits the public as communist isn't an argument whatsoever. I say we get the ball rolling on this so it can eventually foster more high speed development around the states. There are countless projects that have been extremely close to fruition and end up being killed by conservative politicians at the last second. All these instances date as far back as the late 70s- early 90s- late 2000s. ( Twin cities, Milwaukee & Wisconsin) It's time we start being selfless and make this place more multi modal for our future generations. Better infrastructure and urbanism is a good thing
Of course it will. They have very little land to acquire, the line will be primarily single tracked, they only have about 1/4 of the length to cover and their speeds will be a bit lower. The con with some of their decisions, is they aren't all that well situated in the LA area. Probably would have been a better idea to run the line into LA Union instead of way out in Rancho Cucamonga. There are already a couple lines that could have been improved on to achieve that. Maybe that might be a future expansion.
@@travisbeagle5691 Running the HSR line all the way to LA would've more than doubled the cost of the project and probably made it non-feasible for Brightline. I do know that is in the long term plans for it. It's much cheaper to build HSR track in the I-15 median in the middle of the desert than it is to build it through the LA mountains and suburbs. Upgrading the existing lines between RC and LA to handle 110-125mph line speeds would likely be a good medium term solution, it would dramatically improve the Metrolink service on what is their busiest corridor and if the line is electrified Brightline could use it to run all the way to LA, just at a lower speed west of RC.
@@mrvwbug4423 The latter part of your comment is more or less what I was getting at. They and Metrolink could have done something similar to what CAHSR and Caltrain are planning and upgrade existing rights of way to extend Brightline to LA Union and upgrade Metrolink while they are at it. Double tracking the existing route and electrification wouldn't be all that much of a significant expense, would dramatically improve the corridor and would likely significantly increase the customer base for the service. Maybe it is in the cards once the service is established and has some of its debt paid off as well as potentially double tracking the route, but right now I can't help not seeing it as a missed opportunity.
Hey, back in 1964 Union Pacific had four working passenger trains per day in each direction that went from Los Angeles Union Station to Las Vegas and beyond to Salt Lake City and points East. Back in the 1960's Union Pacific passenger trains were well equipped with dining cars, sleepers, lounges and comfortable coaches as well. So you see at one point there were once regular actual working passenger trains between Los Angeles Union Station and Las Vegas.
I think people will be surprised by the cost to ride this private HSR line. Tickets have to priced high enough to not only pay for the cost of the service, but to pay back the money to build it and provide investors a profit. A train like Pacific Surfliner is priced low enough to encourage people not to drive.
In principle, I would agree...however, I've taken Brightline numerous times in Florida and the prices are always far more reasonable than expected and the amount invested there was equally huge
@@ustophl - I live 90 miles from Los Angeles, and I prefer Amtrak--which is actually CalTrans--over Metrolink. Amtrak California is $28 coach. Rancho Cucamonga to Las Vegas is 230 miles. So a comparable price for Brightline West would be $72. However, Brightline is talking over $200 for a ticket, one-way. So Brightline West would be about 3 times more expensive than Amtrak, and still only get to the Metrolink station in Rancho Cucamonga. Advance LA-LV air fares are much lower than $200, and in fact, a lot closer to the $72 price. In addition, we can expect the airlines will cut their fares as soon as Brightline opens. Because the environmental impacts of air travel are externalized, competition will be a significant challenge to Brightline West.
@@ERAforALL they have a partial light rail system already. They just need to extend it to all the major hotels on the strip down to at least Mandalay Bay.
@@ziqi92 That monorail is a JOKE. I’ve heard, but not verified, that there are plans to remove it. Much like Musk’s Tesla tunnels, it is a folly, not a practical mass transit system solution. Las Vegas needs to stop cowtowing to the Taxicab Authority, and build the same sort of light rail system that SERVES commuters, especially the airport, the Strip, Downtown, the Brightline terminal, and Maryland Parkway, the last of which would serve UNLV and Sunrise Hospital and Medical Districts. Later, it should expand spurs out to stadiums, ballparks, and residential areas around the valley.
I genuinely believe that Las Vegas could design and build an incredible light rail befitting the Las Vegas Strip and Downtown, with added flair and neon. Done right, it could be practical, relatively inexpensive for riders, and still make an artistic impression.
@@ERAforALL I agree about the Tesla tunnel, but you’re right, that monorail is definitely more suited for tourists than natives of the area. Still, I have to wonder if it makes more fiscal sense to work with the infrastructure already present than it is to build an all-new light rail. Converting the Tesla tunnel to rail would be a small start.
@@ziqi92 I doubt Elon would agree to adapting his Tesla tunnels. I have to navigate around the monorail daily, and it looks like a DIY project built by unskilled labor. Maybe the tram can be salvaged, but the rail itself is more an obstacle than a practical mass transit route. I say, build a big, high elevated platform above Las Vegas Boulevard, bling it up, Vegas style, and let it become another must see/must ride attraction…that actually serves the visitors and the locals here.
Hi, there, the first time ever heard of the bullet train in Japan was in the early 1980's. You might meet people who are older than I am who heard of them before I was born.
This will be easy to build since there is nothing in the way, unlike CA HSR which has to dig up and move TONS of pipes, electrical, build lots of overpasses and underpasses, etc.
Reality check: The naysayers and knockers in this comment section would've been burping out the same, negative things about constructing the national interstate freeway system back at its start in 1956 through the '60s and '70s. They'd have been saying the original state and US highways (configurations of 1 travel lane in each direction, mostly) still served perfectly fine. Presumably, today, they love their freeways. Do they think the automotive freeway infrastructure was cheap, quickly built, or easy? High speed rail is no different and, like the interstates, will take the US to the next level of transportation evolution.
Let me burp this: I pay for my own car and the fees. This rail system will be subsidized by the car drivers to make this a reality. The best rail systems for transportation of people are currently subsidized at 12 dollars for every fare dollar collected. This will be no different and likely worse.
Nearly all the route for Brightline West will be 125 MPH or lower. As valuable as Brightline West is, it isn't comparable to CA HSR's line which will be 220 MPH almost all the way between station stops.
That sounds a lot better than what it was like back in the old days. In 1995, I took a train from Fullerton, California to Las Vegas. It took more or less 8 hours.
@@MrJuvefrank - Given that current speed through Cajon Canyon is 25 MPH, the new line will be fantastic. In fact, there will probably be a commuter train service between Rancho Cucamonga and Victorville sponsored by Metrolink. Brightline is probably starting work in Las Vegas because their main shop will be outside Las Vegas. However, if they want to get revenue right away, they should be building between Rancho and Victorville.
The irony of saying "one of the greenest forms of transportation in the country with a 0-emissions system" while simultaneously showing an enormous parking structure immediately adjacent to the station
I'm glad it will be electric and not smelly Diesels. Look what happened out in Philadelphia all diesel powered passenger trains discontinued sometime in the early 1980s and now only electric passenger trains including AMTRAK.
Why don't you make the station a little smaller and reduce some costs so we can extend this into a connecting station in downtown LA, and also bring this to the rest of the US. We're 50 years too late but we need this now more than ever
There would be even more land rights and right of way acquisitions that would have to be agreed upon cutting through LA like that. That would extend the project by years and add billions of dollars to the budget. Not to mention the litigation a move like that would spark amongst wealthy land owners in the city who are NIMBYs, disadvantaged communities concerned about gentrification, and everyone in between. This is the problem HSR between LA and SF is currently experiencing.
@@TooLiveChris see its situations like these where governments with a little more "authoritarian power" seem compelling. It's unfortunate that rail projects in the US seem to negatively impact so many communities rather than help them.
Hopefully after the initial segment is completed, they'll continue to add more as time progresses. The automobile and airplane NEED supplementing with another, less fuel-intensive, transportation mode.
This is a mostly privately funded project, I suspect it will get done in a reasonable timeframe. Brightline is betting the farm on this and they've been wildly successful in Florida.
I hope it falls through, the 210 freeway was one of the worst things to happen to our communities in the Inland Empire. There are way too many people as it is, the question is, who is going to make money off of this?
@@notsocrates9529 That 210 also nearly obliterated Pasadena; I remember the time BEFORE that monstrous "Hitler strip" blasted its way thru vibrant Pasadena communities, uprooting and displacing hundreds of people some of which were forced to live in a "cardboard ghetto" known as the King's Village apartment complex.... If it were a RAIL LINE instead, a much greater amount of land would've been available for more productive uses!
So cool - I hope it comes to fruition. The budget $12B will likely go over the plan but the vision is solid. We have to have faith and build it to give consumer options.
@@noerodriguez9047 nowhere near SoCal now, but back when I used to live in San Diego, I frequently used that freeway over varying distances. The few times I did drive to Vegas for vacation, I absolutely dreaded the drive on I-15. Absolute nightmare.
@@noerodriguez9047 because more freeway lanes do nothing to alleviate traffic. The phenomena known as Induced Demand shows that more road lanes only causes more traffic congestion, not less. I-15 is already 6 lanes wide (in one direction) in most of LA and SD, and it still gets backed up like crazy. Proof that more lanes does not solve traffic in the long run.
My family took Brightline from Orlando to Miami cruise lines line in August. Quite ride with excellent service. They have a Brightline shuttle that takes you directly to your terminal when you get to Miami Brightline Central station.
Yeah! It’s nice bc at least my mom doesn’t have to tirelessly drive from Vegas to Cali and instead have the time to sleep in the train as she barely gets any 🙏🙏🙏
@@tomservo5007 Not exactly. Take a look at Brightline in Florida! It is wildly successful. Also, Brightline is a private company, and therefore does not use tax dollars. If it does, it does not use much
This is awesome as I love trains and always have. I hope that this is going to spread throughout the country. I would love to see this in Colorado and Missouri.
The Gov't could appropriate billions for a light rail line going from the Sinless City Airport to Downtown and the taxi drivers would make sure it was never built.
@@darrylbrown8253 Nope. This project is 50% government funded. And Brightline's last three projects in Florida were over 90% government funded. Brightline is privately owned but it's definitely publicly funded. Big difference.
@@TohaBgood2 actually you are the one running fast and loose with the facts. You are wrong on two fronts. Yes the CA to LV is partially funded by the govt. You are lying about how much it is. Its more about 30% is being funded by federal and state subsidies. You are also lying about the the Florida. None of that was funded by the governement. So again be sure to check your facts before spewing non sense.
@@darrylbrown8253 Nope. 30% is just the Federal grant that they just received. HOw about all the state money and all the other Federal grants that they have already applied for, been shortlisted, and claim that they can't continue without getting? No, you don't believe Brightline when they say that they need over 50% government "investment" to make this line possible? And again, no. The last three projects that Brightline built in Florida were all stations and were all 90-100% government funded. Why are you trying to lie about this? This is quite literally public information.
Hopefully the BrightLine operators realize that they'll have to price their trains, offer convenience and offer amenities to make them appealing to consumers. Rumor has it that the price tag will be north of $400 for a round trip. Too much more than that and people will likely choose to drive anyway.
He was referencing humans crossing the Cajon Pass, dating all the way back to early prehistoric tribes apparently. Not sure why he did that, but I guess maybe to show how important a travel corridor that’s been, and now Brightline West is the latest mode of travel to use it.
For all of you out there in the west la la land disconnected from the rest of the country. Brightline is not a government entity. It’s a private enterprise company from Florida. They already have speed trains operating in Florida from Orlando to Miami.
It's refreshing to see a privately funded rail going somewhere people actually want to go, compared to the $100 billion of taxpayer dollars spent for high speed rail from Bakersfield to Chowchilla.
I wish Mr Pete would come to Malta and help us with a new Underground system. After all, he has roots in Malta, for his surname is Maltese.On, and make this work in the US, I mean it's about time.
Remember folks. These high speed lines trains have to run 1 full year before passengers are allowed. To iron out glitches and safety. That mean built 3 years from now for the Olympics.
Where did you get these numbers from? You typically 1-2 weeks after track completion to allow services and maybe another month to allow the desired speeds.
I also really want this to work but I don't understand why the train won't go all the way into Union Station Los Angeles? Rancho Cucamonga is over 40 miles away from the heart of LA.
I feel the same. I live in LA. This won't be beneficial for me. They can't build in DTLA because it will be trashed in less than 6 months. loll can you imagine?? Some people make it so that we can't have nice things. This is privately owned company...not government.
Let's hope this one works better then previous attempts. Just to show how ridiculously slow the current build is, it was approved in 2008 about the same time China got their HSR program running. After 15 years California have now completed 422 miles with the first passengers expected to be able to ride between Bakersfield and Merced sometime after 2030, China just passed 28 000 miles with 3.68 billion passengers in 2023.
I can only imagine to the real estate market now in both Rancho and Victorville since there will be only 2 stops. What do you guys think? Higher prices on the homes?
@@CaliSteve169 My $19 300 mile 2.5 hr bullet train ride from France to Germany was comfortable slice of heaven. My 300 mi 6 hr car ride from LA to Vegas was a cramped nightmare! No thanks!
@@Furtivo95 apples to oranges. US and European cities are set up differently. The train makes more sense in Europe than the US. I live in Long Beach. It would take me hours to get to Cucamonga just to get to a train so I can go to Vegas and be stuck without a car there. If you just want to go from Cucamonga to the Vegas strip and not stop anywhere on the way and just stay around your hotel there (like on a business trip) then maybe it works. Again, keep in mind that for most people just getting to Cucamonga would be painful. Southern California is very spread out unlike the European cities. Having said all that, I still prefer the comfort and convenience of my own car when I'm in Europe. I go wherever I want, whenever I want and take as many detours as I want.
Hope it works. Brightline has it eyes on other corridors. The triangle between Dallas - Houston - San Antonio hopefully is next. Personally, I would much rather travel by high speed rail than by commercial air. Affordable high speed rail would save so much on highway maintenance cost.
Now if only Las Vegas could improve its public transit system too. Wouldn’t it be great if Vegas had a subway or LRT that people could get on once they arrived.
We need more HSR in CA to catch up with decades behind Asia and Europe. Whoever can build it whether China, Japan, German at the most cost effective and efficiency. LA-San Diego will be very nice route to have, and them we need to complete LA-SF line. Pete guy has nothing to do with it just pure PR. Thx Brightline.
@sandiegofun1 I see the logic behind your statement, but a little known fact is they were just one more lane from fixing traffic forever! Just one more lane and it would be fixed! We should keep investing in expanding our highways so we can increase commute times instead of investing in far more efficient and fast travel alternatives 😊
YES YES YES, this is why President Biden deserves another 4 years, for helping us Californians and Nevadans, giving us prosperity and growing our economy. We were chosen to be the first to host true high speed rail.
Do you Realize that a ticket on this high speed Rail will Cost you in the neighborhood of 3oo to 4oo dollars round trip ? The quickest most cost efficient way to travel long distance is to fly by Airplane. If you want high speed Rail it has to pay for itself that is why passenger rail service is has always been supported by Freight shipped by Rail service!
Not all people who go to Las Vegas go to gamble. Some people have relatives over there or go there because they're on their way to Utah, Colorado, Nebraska. etc.
@@ZergcerebratesThe state or locality thatdoing the sending will pay their ticket costs, just like Texas paying for buses to ship illegal aliens to New York State....
Just a quick cost analysis, 19 million per kilometer in China versus 48 million per kilometer in the USA.Let's not forget there will be a large cost overrun here in America.
@@markalanjacobson I don't trust government municipalities to get things done in America these days. Have you seen the spreadsheet on the bullet train to San Francisco? Have you seen how much money has been spent? Have you seen the bridge to nowhere? That could have gone to housing the homeless. That's why I'm negative.
@@damiennewyorker8105 You getting your car stolen is the governments responsibility? Maybe don't leave your car unattended if you're leaving somewhere far away, you dumbass.
You have no clue. Way more people than that travel between the two cities. Pretty much all air travel and a large chunk of car/bus travel can be replaced by rail.
PLENTY of people fly from SoCal to Vegas, so they don't have to drive. The rest drive. When the ticket prices become reasonable, expect tens of thousands of people to use the train. Much better than both driving and flying
Having to get to the airport 2hours before the flight, getting a rental car, is costlier than driving both in time and money. Too much hassle is why folks mostly drive from LA to Vegas. That is why round trip tickets from LAX to Vegas is less than $80. With the train its gonna be kinda similar with needing a rental car and there ain't gonna be 10,000 parking spaces at the train station so folks still need a ride to the train station just like to the airport. The round trip train better be no more than $50 or no one is gonna take it.
Nah, this is a private company, bright line. They build one in florida in like 5 years and was successful. Hence why they are 'expanding' now into cali. This isn't the government that takes 20 years
@@andrec6012 And you're wrong on both counts. CAHSR broke ground in 2015 in Fresno. There's video on youtube from the groundbreaking. How many years have passed since 2015? Can you count?
It is just amazing how a project can start when it's run by a private company. I wonder how the CA high speed rails to nowhere will continue to be way over budget.
My point exactly. This project should be easier and quicker to build because: 1. There are no bodies of water or significant obstacles to clear or build over since it's in the desert 2. Land along the highway allows for a straight connection between the two destinations
@@TheTallMan50 how privileged you must be to consider fulfilling work the most important aspect when looking for a job. But anyway it is still fulfilling being a small part of a huge project like this and saying hey I contributed to this a little even if it was hard work. The hard work actually makes it more fulfilling in my opinion.
The billions to Ukraine actually mostly goes to US companies that manufacturer weapons and supplies for Ukraine. But still Ukraine gets a lot more than this train
Great! But there will lots of traffic going to the stations in Rncho Cucamonga and Vegas stations respectively.. Will there be parking lots in those stations for commuters.. .my thoughts.
I really want this to work - USA deserves high speed train!!! Despite jobs - also a way to cut travel time and emission!
If Brightline West and Texas Central are successful that really opens the door. We've never had a real HSR line, Acela is semi-HSR, less than half its route operates above 125mph and there's only 56mi where it can actually run at its 150mph top speed.
as a European high speed is so much nicer and relaxing . hope that both are successful and you get to experience this @@mrvwbug4423
If I remember, Princeton Junction in New Jersey, and somewhere near Providence in Rhode Island is where the Acela can run at its top speed on the NEC
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It doesn't cut travel time n emissions.
People still need cars. Don't bring the necessity of owning cars to use rails. That's dumb idea. Other HSR friendly countries do not require cars to use rails.
HSR is expensive. This private company will eventually sell the rails to government.
You need at least 80 million annual ridership.
You have to pick n drop people at each location to generate lo5s of ridership.
If it's point to point, it's not going to work.
Dream on Texas.
Texas is an oil Red state.
What will it make work.?
Stop at major city n town. Pick n drop as many people at each station. Good luck in the empty desert.
Oh, check Japan, you don't need cars at each station.
Ideally, CAHSR makes more sense because it passes more cities.
The problem is rail supporters hate public transportation.
Besides SF, public transportation at future CAHSR has below F grade.
HSR supporters are hypocrite. They keep mentioning reduce emissions, but they will not do anything to promote local public transportation.
Japan's bullet train was also years over the estimate and multiple times over budget. Nowadays, no one gives a crap and just talks about how amazing and convenient it is.
HSR is definitely needed and will be amazingly convenient. Cost and time shouldn't be a factor.
Actually the people who talk about Japan's bullet train that way are mostly foreigners. The Japanese people are kind of, .......meh about it.
Love HSR...Rode in EU and Japan, and always think we really need them here fast. We care so far behind.
There is private and my taxes shouldn’t pay for this
@@jamescc2010you are lying
@@FOHguy Me when I lie
About time. The US should have a high speed rail system across the country.
You want it, pay for it yourself.
@@Da__goat why not emulate the model of highways and airports? The state/federal government built the infrastructure, but private companies pay back into it to operate mass transport such as buses and airplanes
It would be too costly and impractical in the short term to have a country wide network but at least regional high speed rail will help a lot
@@ernestz.9260 regional networks can easily extend to country wide networks. of course, no ones saying make a rail line over 300 miles of emptyness out in idaho. but this country is plenty dense for rail, especially the east coast and southwest
@@Da__goat You do the same with your precious highways first.
They should extend it into Union Station.
Meant that more people with free Access Pass can ride free including their service pets or guest.
The train is to help businesses moving to Nevada. Rancho Cucamonga will be a business hub for companies transitioning.
@@tonyburzio4107 Yeah but how many are people from Rancho Cucamonga are gonna be using it
That's in the long term plan. To build it to LA Union up front would've more than doubled the cost of the project, remember this is a mostly privately funded project, Brightline had to go with what they could afford, federal and state grants only fund a small part of the project, Brightline is paying for most of this themselves. There is also an opportunity to install line upgrades and electrification on the San Bernidino line that would improve line speeds and capacity for Metrolink as they will be ferrying Brigthline passengers to LA. Electrification could also allow the Brightline trains to do the RC to LA portion on the existing Metrolink track without the extreme expense of building the HSR line all the way to LA, the RC to LA portion would just be at a max of 125mph depending on line upgrades.
should not build Shut down la and vegas Long Live Free California
The negativity in this thread is why there’s never hope for fast rail here lol
Because all the train nuts obsesses over it and keep raising noise over it
Because it costs 50% more than estimates and taxes 40% longer. By the time it completes it becomes irrelevant and corruption runs rampant.
@@Da__goat you fail to mention the amount of tax payer money wasted on highways that don't even make a single dime. Not to mention how corrupt oil lobbyists have been since the 50s when they bulldozed neighborhoods with their pockets being the only thing that matters to them. If anything, corrupt Republicans are the reason these projects stall and become prolonged. It's a political 'power trip' play to make the other party look incompetent. We need trains, it literally benefits everyone, and with a thorough discussion anyone would come to that conclusion. It alleviates traffic , provides ALTERNATIVES to one singular form of transportation ( which is very restraining and cost consuming), and generates economic growth through transit oriented development and the impact it has on surrounding areas. So tell me, how is a train bad? And labeling everything that benefits the public as communist isn't an argument whatsoever. I say we get the ball rolling on this so it can eventually foster more high speed development around the states. There are countless projects that have been extremely close to fruition and end up being killed by conservative politicians at the last second. All these instances date as far back as the late 70s- early 90s- late 2000s. ( Twin cities, Milwaukee & Wisconsin) It's time we start being selfless and make this place more multi modal for our future generations. Better infrastructure and urbanism is a good thing
The concern of psr usage
because of the waste its just a money grab
This is the way forward. High speed rails across the entire country.
Car manufacturers, oil executives are panicking 😅
airline industry is too.
So sad for them. Maybe Boeing and the car manufacturers should consider building HSR trains!
@WorldCitizenW: I certainly wouldn't doubt that at all!!!
Silly, trains don't replace cars, they supplement, and provide alternatives.
I don't think so. They won't like it, though, as it may give Americans ideas.
At least Brightline’s process is likely to be quicker than the states LA-SF rail
Cahsr is already building. This vegas line is much easier to build though since theres less property they need to acquire and the speeds are lower
Of course it will. They have very little land to acquire, the line will be primarily single tracked, they only have about 1/4 of the length to cover and their speeds will be a bit lower. The con with some of their decisions, is they aren't all that well situated in the LA area. Probably would have been a better idea to run the line into LA Union instead of way out in Rancho Cucamonga. There are already a couple lines that could have been improved on to achieve that. Maybe that might be a future expansion.
@@travisbeagle5691 Running the HSR line all the way to LA would've more than doubled the cost of the project and probably made it non-feasible for Brightline. I do know that is in the long term plans for it. It's much cheaper to build HSR track in the I-15 median in the middle of the desert than it is to build it through the LA mountains and suburbs. Upgrading the existing lines between RC and LA to handle 110-125mph line speeds would likely be a good medium term solution, it would dramatically improve the Metrolink service on what is their busiest corridor and if the line is electrified Brightline could use it to run all the way to LA, just at a lower speed west of RC.
@@mrvwbug4423 The latter part of your comment is more or less what I was getting at. They and Metrolink could have done something similar to what CAHSR and Caltrain are planning and upgrade existing rights of way to extend Brightline to LA Union and upgrade Metrolink while they are at it. Double tracking the existing route and electrification wouldn't be all that much of a significant expense, would dramatically improve the corridor and would likely significantly increase the customer base for the service. Maybe it is in the cards once the service is established and has some of its debt paid off as well as potentially double tracking the route, but right now I can't help not seeing it as a missed opportunity.
Only 50 years in the making and still not a piece of track. Americas greatest concrete bridge to no where 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡💩💩💩💩
Finally, not some hyperloop techno dream but an actual working TRAIN
Hey, back in 1964 Union Pacific had four working passenger trains per day in each direction that went from Los Angeles Union Station to Las Vegas and beyond to Salt Lake City and points East. Back in the 1960's Union Pacific passenger trains were well equipped with dining cars, sleepers, lounges and comfortable coaches as well. So you see at one point there were once regular actual working passenger trains between Los Angeles Union Station and Las Vegas.
I think people will be surprised by the cost to ride this private HSR line. Tickets have to priced high enough to not only pay for the cost of the service, but to pay back the money to build it and provide investors a profit. A train like Pacific Surfliner is priced low enough to encourage people not to drive.
In principle, I would agree...however, I've taken Brightline numerous times in Florida and the prices are always far more reasonable than expected and the amount invested there was equally huge
@@ustophl - I live 90 miles from Los Angeles, and I prefer Amtrak--which is actually CalTrans--over Metrolink. Amtrak California is $28 coach. Rancho Cucamonga to Las Vegas is 230 miles. So a comparable price for Brightline West would be $72. However, Brightline is talking over $200 for a ticket, one-way. So Brightline West would be about 3 times more expensive than Amtrak, and still only get to the Metrolink station in Rancho Cucamonga.
Advance LA-LV air fares are much lower than $200, and in fact, a lot closer to the $72 price. In addition, we can expect the airlines will cut their fares as soon as Brightline opens. Because the environmental impacts of air travel are externalized, competition will be a significant challenge to Brightline West.
Now Las Vegas needs to construct a practical light rail system to meet the Brightline and offer services to the Strip and Downtown.
@@ERAforALL they have a partial light rail system already. They just need to extend it to all the major hotels on the strip down to at least Mandalay Bay.
@@ziqi92 That monorail is a JOKE. I’ve heard, but not verified, that there are plans to remove it. Much like Musk’s Tesla tunnels, it is a folly, not a practical mass transit system solution. Las Vegas needs to stop cowtowing to the Taxicab Authority, and build the same sort of light rail system that SERVES commuters, especially the airport, the Strip, Downtown, the Brightline terminal, and Maryland Parkway, the last of which would serve UNLV and Sunrise Hospital and Medical Districts. Later, it should expand spurs out to stadiums, ballparks, and residential areas around the valley.
I genuinely believe that Las Vegas could design and build an incredible light rail befitting the Las Vegas Strip and Downtown, with added flair and neon. Done right, it could be practical, relatively inexpensive for riders, and still make an artistic impression.
@@ERAforALL I agree about the Tesla tunnel, but you’re right, that monorail is definitely more suited for tourists than natives of the area. Still, I have to wonder if it makes more fiscal sense to work with the infrastructure already present than it is to build an all-new light rail. Converting the Tesla tunnel to rail would be a small start.
@@ziqi92 I doubt Elon would agree to adapting his Tesla tunnels. I have to navigate around the monorail daily, and it looks like a DIY project built by unskilled labor. Maybe the tram can be salvaged, but the rail itself is more an obstacle than a practical mass transit route. I say, build a big, high elevated platform above Las Vegas Boulevard, bling it up, Vegas style, and let it become another must see/must ride attraction…that actually serves the visitors and the locals here.
It's more than about time!!!!!! Too bad this wasn't discovered many years ago!!!!! Looking forward to this!!!!
Hi, there, the first time ever heard of the bullet train in Japan was in the early 1980's. You might meet people who are older than I am who heard of them before I was born.
Projected to be completed in year 2028. That means it will be half finished by year 2038.
Nah this a company not government. They built a train in 5 years in Florida same company
It's mostly funded up with private funds. So they work differently. They made a train in Florida, and they took them a few years to do it
Prviate company building this, Brightline already completed a Project in Florida that took 4 yrs or so to complete.
This will be easy to build since there is nothing in the way, unlike CA HSR which has to dig up and move TONS of pipes, electrical, build lots of overpasses and underpasses, etc.
done in 2138 for 50 trillion....
Can we please build more walkable cities.
Long overdue. Hope it grows to other areas.
Reality check: The naysayers and knockers in this comment section would've been burping out the same, negative things about constructing the national interstate freeway system back at its start in 1956 through the '60s and '70s. They'd have been saying the original state and US highways (configurations of 1 travel lane in each direction, mostly) still served perfectly fine. Presumably, today, they love their freeways. Do they think the automotive freeway infrastructure was cheap, quickly built, or easy? High speed rail is no different and, like the interstates, will take the US to the next level of transportation evolution.
Let me burp this: I pay for my own car and the fees. This rail system will be subsidized by the car drivers to make this a reality. The best rail systems for transportation of people are currently subsidized at 12 dollars for every fare dollar collected. This will be no different and likely worse.
Nearly all the route for Brightline West will be 125 MPH or lower. As valuable as Brightline West is, it isn't comparable to CA HSR's line which will be 220 MPH almost all the way between station stops.
That sounds a lot better than what it was like back in the old days. In 1995, I took a train from Fullerton, California to Las Vegas. It took more or less 8 hours.
@@MrJuvefrank - Given that current speed through Cajon Canyon is 25 MPH, the new line will be fantastic. In fact, there will probably be a commuter train service between Rancho Cucamonga and Victorville sponsored by Metrolink. Brightline is probably starting work in Las Vegas because their main shop will be outside Las Vegas. However, if they want to get revenue right away, they should be building between Rancho and Victorville.
@@pacificostudios I'm glad to hear it.
Then again is the California High Speed Rail ever actually going to be finished from Los Angeles to San Francisco?
@@garcjr They don't know how to finish it. They hired the first pig who wanted to get rich instead of hiring a company that would save them money.
About damn time, we're already late like 30 years, f it. Build it now
The irony of saying "one of the greenest forms of transportation in the country with a 0-emissions system" while simultaneously showing an enormous parking structure immediately adjacent to the station
I mean, we're getting somewhere...
Better those cars be parked at a train station than driving on the highway
That assumes CONservatives will establish their commie oil empire and ban all non-gas cars
That's the whole point: More cars parked means less cars on the road, hence less emissions.
Yes, park and ride. You only have to drive a few minutes the the station instead of hours to the destination.
I'm glad it will be electric and not smelly Diesels. Look what happened out in Philadelphia all diesel powered passenger trains discontinued sometime in the early 1980s and now only electric passenger trains including AMTRAK.
Why don't you make the station a little smaller and reduce some costs so we can extend this into a connecting station in downtown LA, and also bring this to the rest of the US. We're 50 years too late but we need this now more than ever
There would be even more land rights and right of way acquisitions that would have to be agreed upon cutting through LA like that. That would extend the project by years and add billions of dollars to the budget. Not to mention the litigation a move like that would spark amongst wealthy land owners in the city who are NIMBYs, disadvantaged communities concerned about gentrification, and everyone in between. This is the problem HSR between LA and SF is currently experiencing.
@@TooLiveChris see its situations like these where governments with a little more "authoritarian power" seem compelling. It's unfortunate that rail projects in the US seem to negatively impact so many communities rather than help them.
The train should really come all the way to Los Angeles.
If enough people ride it, then it might.
Construction begins but will it ever end is the question.
Hopefully after the initial segment is completed, they'll continue to add more as time progresses. The automobile and airplane NEED supplementing with another, less fuel-intensive, transportation mode.
This is a mostly privately funded project, I suspect it will get done in a reasonable timeframe. Brightline is betting the farm on this and they've been wildly successful in Florida.
I hope it falls through, the 210 freeway was one of the worst things to happen to our communities in the Inland Empire. There are way too many people as it is, the question is, who is going to make money off of this?
@@notsocrates9529 That 210 also nearly obliterated Pasadena; I remember the time BEFORE that monstrous "Hitler strip" blasted its way thru vibrant Pasadena communities, uprooting and displacing hundreds of people some of which were forced to live in a "cardboard ghetto" known as the King's Village apartment complex....
If it were a RAIL LINE instead, a much greater amount of land would've been available for more productive uses!
No
So cool - I hope it comes to fruition. The budget $12B will likely go over the plan but the vision is solid. We have to have faith and build it to give consumer options.
So excited! I hate driving on the I-15.
Where you work and live homie? You don’t need to drive at 1-15 there’s alternatives
@@noerodriguez9047 nowhere near SoCal now, but back when I used to live in San Diego, I frequently used that freeway over varying distances. The few times I did drive to Vegas for vacation, I absolutely dreaded the drive on I-15. Absolute nightmare.
@@ziqi92 they keep saying since 30 years ago that they will add more lines to the freeway but I don’t know why they don’t
@@noerodriguez9047 because more freeway lanes do nothing to alleviate traffic. The phenomena known as Induced Demand shows that more road lanes only causes more traffic congestion, not less. I-15 is already 6 lanes wide (in one direction) in most of LA and SD, and it still gets backed up like crazy. Proof that more lanes does not solve traffic in the long run.
My family took Brightline from Orlando to Miami cruise lines line in August. Quite ride with excellent service. They have a Brightline shuttle that takes you directly to your terminal when you get to Miami Brightline Central station.
Yeah! It’s nice bc at least my mom doesn’t have to tirelessly drive from Vegas to Cali and instead have the time to sleep in the train as she barely gets any 🙏🙏🙏
Fast Travel for NCR troops when it's done
What's NCR?
New California Republic. A major faction in the Fallout universe. They're a big part of Fallout: New Vegas.
patrolling the mojave makes you wish for nuclear winter
@@mirzaahmed6589 I can think of worse things than California not having to do with some of the other states. Won't happen.
And since it’s bright line and not the stupid government, it’ll be ready either early or on time!
no
nope, this 'private' project will get 10s of million$ in public funding before it's abandoned, not the first time this grift has worked
@@tomservo5007 Not exactly. Take a look at Brightline in Florida! It is wildly successful. Also, Brightline is a private company, and therefore does not use tax dollars. If it does, it does not use much
@@tomservo5007stop lying you know that’s not true
@@The_king567 and you don't understand how this company can cough up billions required for this scale of a problem
This is awesome as I love trains and always have. I hope that this is going to spread throughout the country. I would love to see this in Colorado and Missouri.
I really cant wait for this!!!!!
Kudos! Looks like a big project! 👍
The Gov't could appropriate billions for a light rail line going from the Sinless City Airport to Downtown and the taxi drivers would make sure it was never built.
well that is too bad the Government is not funding this project. Brightline did the same thing down in FL and got it done in 5 years.
@@darrylbrown8253 Nope. This project is 50% government funded. And Brightline's last three projects in Florida were over 90% government funded.
Brightline is privately owned but it's definitely publicly funded. Big difference.
@@TohaBgood2 actually you are the one running fast and loose with the facts. You are wrong on two fronts. Yes the CA to LV is partially funded by the govt. You are lying about how much it is. Its more about 30% is being funded by federal and state subsidies. You are also lying about the the Florida. None of that was funded by the governement. So again be sure to check your facts before spewing non sense.
@@darrylbrown8253 Nope. 30% is just the Federal grant that they just received. HOw about all the state money and all the other Federal grants that they have already applied for, been shortlisted, and claim that they can't continue without getting? No, you don't believe Brightline when they say that they need over 50% government "investment" to make this line possible?
And again, no. The last three projects that Brightline built in Florida were all stations and were all 90-100% government funded. Why are you trying to lie about this? This is quite literally public information.
No it definitely shouldn’t
Hopefully the BrightLine operators realize that they'll have to price their trains, offer convenience and offer amenities to make them appealing to consumers. Rumor has it that the price tag will be north of $400 for a round trip. Too much more than that and people will likely choose to drive anyway.
There were pre historic trains?
not sure ask backdoor Pete B.
He was referencing humans crossing the Cajon Pass, dating all the way back to early prehistoric tribes apparently. Not sure why he did that, but I guess maybe to show how important a travel corridor that’s been, and now Brightline West is the latest mode of travel to use it.
@@ChrisJones-gx7fc pandering
@@anderander5662he didn’t want to offend the caveman hunting sabertooth
@user-zt6bt8dp2c I get offended everyday...... nobody gives a s***
$49 LA to Vegas by air, vs $400 by rail. If not more... SMH.
$400 is a lot of money unless you're Lee Iacocca.
Where did you get that number?
Lee Iacocca?! 😶
@@MrJuvefrank I have no idea of why you dragged Lee Iacocca into this...
@@e.n.strowd1949 Go look up air fares...
For all of you out there in the west la la land disconnected from the rest of the country. Brightline is not a government entity. It’s a private enterprise company from Florida. They already have speed trains operating in Florida from Orlando to Miami.
The bridge at 1:34 is part of the Central Valley rail system that is already a decade late in development and well over two times the original cost.
It's refreshing to see a privately funded rail going somewhere people actually want to go, compared to the $100 billion of taxpayer dollars spent for high speed rail from Bakersfield to Chowchilla.
this 'private' project will get 10s of million$ in public funding before it's abandoned, not the first time this grift has worked.
@@tomservo5007 it wasn't abandoned in Florida
I wish Mr Pete would come to Malta and help us with a new Underground system. After all, he has roots in Malta, for his surname is Maltese.On, and make this work in the US, I mean it's about time.
Remember folks. These high speed lines trains have to run 1 full year before passengers are allowed. To iron out glitches and safety. That mean built 3 years from now for the Olympics.
False.
Where did you get these numbers from? You typically 1-2 weeks after track completion to allow services and maybe another month to allow the desired speeds.
This what SEPTA needs here in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania!! Rail infrastructure need to be upgraded and local transit rail stations.
Finally?! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Amazing high speed train development
About time! Remember hundreds of years ago when the US had nation wide rail.
No we didn’t
@@The_king567 Yes we did. Not high speed, but there was no high speed back then.
@@AmbushRL. no we never had trains for a good reason we need to get rid of them
@@The_king567 Ever heard of the Transcontinental Railroad?
@@AmbushRL. it’s gone for a reason
This will be done before the CAHSR gets done
By the time its built it will be 3-5x the cost and 5x to run
Really? LA to Vegas? Are they expecting packed trains daily? Maybe LA - SF, but LA to LV will not fly.
The West Coast is finally going to have High Speed Rail
I also really want this to work but I don't understand why the train won't go all the way into Union Station Los Angeles? Rancho Cucamonga is over 40 miles away from the heart of LA.
I feel the same. I live in LA. This won't be beneficial for me. They can't build in DTLA because it will be trashed in less than 6 months. loll can you imagine?? Some people make it so that we can't have nice things. This is privately owned company...not government.
I have no desire to go to Vegas.
Then fk off,why r u writing it here.
don’t go
Ummm ok.
Who asked😂
me too, I don't like conservative, Mormon influenced cities!
Let's hope this one works better then previous attempts. Just to show how ridiculously slow the current build is, it was approved in 2008 about the same time China got their HSR program running. After 15 years California have now completed 422 miles with the first passengers expected to be able to ride between Bakersfield and Merced sometime after 2030, China just passed 28 000 miles with 3.68 billion passengers in 2023.
China is a communist country. No red tape
of course it's not a surprise - it's a f*&^%$ 2billion ppl country for God's sake :)
Brightline is already operating speed trains in Florida and they’re very successful
I can only imagine to the real estate market now in both Rancho and Victorville since there will be only 2 stops. What do you guys think? Higher prices on the homes?
Yes it’s already going through the roof
I'm going to set a goal to being one of the first people to ride this High speed rail system. I should retire in about 4 years. In theory.
Excellent news!!
Powered by diesel generators, generating all that needed electricity.
I think it might have power drawn from the solar plants near Primm, but who knows
The solar farm near Primm and the wind farms along the route will be powering Brightline West.
@@princesidon good to know
People will be riding their self driving Teslas before this is anywhere near done.
This is 125 years too late. Just go to Europe and Asia to see how developed countries work.
No thanks. Being herded like cattle into public transportation ain't my thing. I'd rather travel in the comfort of my own vehicle.
@@CaliSteve169 My $19 300 mile 2.5 hr bullet train ride from France to Germany was comfortable slice of heaven. My 300 mi 6 hr car ride from LA to Vegas was a cramped nightmare! No thanks!
I agree with furtivo
@@Furtivo95 apples to oranges. US and European cities are set up differently. The train makes more sense in Europe than the US. I live in Long Beach. It would take me hours to get to Cucamonga just to get to a train so I can go to Vegas and be stuck without a car there. If you just want to go from Cucamonga to the Vegas strip and not stop anywhere on the way and just stay around your hotel there (like on a business trip) then maybe it works. Again, keep in mind that for most people just getting to Cucamonga would be painful. Southern California is very spread out unlike the European cities.
Having said all that, I still prefer the comfort and convenience of my own car when I'm in Europe. I go wherever I want, whenever I want and take as many detours as I want.
@@Furtivo95 not to mention all the stabbings on trains. That's a different conversation.
wrong, the station stops between vegas and rancho will be apple valley and hesperia......why can't these reporters do their research?
What the over/under as to when this gets finished...I'm betting over 10 years...and billions more.
Its official - Bailey is simply gorgeous.
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Hope it works. Brightline has it eyes on other corridors. The triangle between Dallas - Houston - San Antonio hopefully is next. Personally, I would much rather travel by high speed rail than by commercial air. Affordable high speed rail would save so much on highway maintenance cost.
Who did these projections?
a biden voter
It's wrong projection. The train systems only profitable when people commute to work daily. Hopefully no railroad crosses.
Newsome
@@livinglife5463
Who dumb enough to put crossing at High Speed/Express Rail?
1000 a day will use it.
I love this! NEC next for highspeed rail
NEC doesn’t really need any. Just gotta upgrade the tracks from NYC to Boston and its up to date.
Very excited 😆
Now if only Las Vegas could improve its public transit system too. Wouldn’t it be great if Vegas had a subway or LRT that people could get on once they arrived.
Southwest Airlines is not impressed nor does it think this will steal its customers.
We need more HSR in CA to catch up with decades behind Asia and Europe. Whoever can build it whether China, Japan, German at the most cost effective and efficiency.
LA-San Diego will be very nice route to have, and them we need to complete LA-SF line. Pete guy has nothing to do with it just pure PR. Thx Brightline.
The reason the I-15 corridor is a parking lot is that no money has been spent on it ever since it was first constructed.
As we know from the Katy freeway, adding lanes always solves the traffic problem.. /s/
Trains are the only real solution.
That's a good thing.
ALSO IT'S FULL OF ANTs in an ant farm baking in tge sun for a sliver of hope of joy to once again Feel like They never were dumb ever
@sandiegofun1 I see the logic behind your statement, but a little known fact is they were just one more lane from fixing traffic forever! Just one more lane and it would be fixed! We should keep investing in expanding our highways so we can increase commute times instead of investing in far more efficient and fast travel alternatives 😊
@@Scrublord30 Just one more lane, brah!
YES YES YES, this is why President Biden deserves another 4 years, for helping us Californians and Nevadans, giving us prosperity and growing our economy. We were chosen to be the first to host true high speed rail.
I love trains I want to oun my own passinger railroad
Will it be an elevated track
Unsure, but in Mojave side will be between lanes of I-15.
No (except for a couple of bridges), but it will be 100% grade separated
It will mostly run in the I-15 median or next to I-15
IF GOD IS REAL WERE DOOMED sin to sin holly fak
Do you Realize that a ticket on this high speed Rail will Cost you in the neighborhood of 3oo to 4oo dollars round trip ? The quickest most cost efficient way to travel long distance is to fly by Airplane. If you want high speed Rail it has to pay for itself that is why passenger rail service is has always been supported by Freight shipped by Rail service!
You are wise.
I came up with similar numbers. And that is assuming the cost won’t jump by 3x (it will) and the thing is completed (it won’t be).
You can now Gamble awayy our Money in a Climate Friendly Way......... HURRA
Not all people who go to Las Vegas go to gamble. Some people have relatives over there or go there because they're on their way to Utah, Colorado, Nebraska. etc.
Pete taking credit for doing nothing.
A fast way for the homeless
To move to California ❤
This is actually unrelated
They wouldn’t be able to afford the ticket.
You meant tr@fficking😅
@@ZergcerebratesThe state or locality thatdoing the sending will pay their ticket costs, just like Texas paying for buses to ship illegal aliens to New York State....
You are obviously a car-addicted suburbanite who believes the sensationalist news media's fear-mongering.
Build a Las Vegas South in Rancho Cucamonga would be a better solution.
We've heard this story before...
YEP then the money dried up Someone died and ww2
Just a quick cost analysis, 19 million per kilometer in China versus 48 million per kilometer in the USA.Let's not forget there will be a large cost overrun here in America.
8-story parking structure!? that should be housing!
nah
It could be We do have every technology to terraform that
Well, it might bring in more business for Vegas so that people from inland California can travel if they do not have a close enough airport.
uh, ONT is a few miles from where the RC station will be -- 9 flights/day, with the cheapest being Frontier for $24 each way
So you park your car in Rancho Cucamonga and find out it's been stolen when you return from Vegas.
so negative, why?
@@markalanjacobson I don't trust government municipalities to get things done in America these days. Have you seen the spreadsheet on the bullet train to San Francisco? Have you seen how much money has been spent? Have you seen the bridge to nowhere? That could have gone to housing the homeless. That's why I'm negative.
@@damiennewyorker8105 You getting your car stolen is the governments responsibility? Maybe don't leave your car unattended if you're leaving somewhere far away, you dumbass.
Can't even finish the one between SF and LA.
30,000 people every day is a huge stretch...maybe 5000 per day
You have no clue. Way more people than that travel between the two cities. Pretty much all air travel and a large chunk of car/bus travel can be replaced by rail.
@@mirzaahmed6589 People in SoCal all drive to Vegas, no one flies there from SoCal. That is why I15 is a parking lot.
PLENTY of people fly from SoCal to Vegas, so they don't have to drive. The rest drive.
When the ticket prices become reasonable, expect tens of thousands of people to use the train. Much better than both driving and flying
Watch it be less... Like 500... LOL
Having to get to the airport 2hours before the flight, getting a rental car, is costlier than driving both in time and money. Too much hassle is why folks mostly drive from LA to Vegas. That is why round trip tickets from LAX to Vegas is less than $80. With the train its gonna be kinda similar with needing a rental car and there ain't gonna be 10,000 parking spaces at the train station so folks still need a ride to the train station just like to the airport. The round trip train better be no more than $50 or no one is gonna take it.
Yeah!!! Love it ❤😊
can't wait to use this to speed run new vegas later
ABSOLULTLY NOT. Noooooo Fk that We building Shady
just you know dont Drop that
Man… it took Biden to build a High Speed Train?!? And Americans are leaning to unseat him in favor of Trump? LoL.
This has been in the works for many years before Biden
It only took 20 years, no biggie!
fail
Nah, this is a private company, bright line. They build one in florida in like 5 years and was successful. Hence why they are 'expanding' now into cali. This isn't the government that takes 20 years
@@JoseVasquez-vj3lo I wasn’t talking about the company. I was talking about the state of California in general.
@@andrec6012 And you're wrong on both counts. CAHSR broke ground in 2015 in Fresno. There's video on youtube from the groundbreaking. How many years have passed since 2015? Can you count?
It is just amazing how a project can start when it's run by a private company.
I wonder how the CA high speed rails to nowhere will continue to be way over budget.
There are efficient and fast governments in the world... Just not the American one.
A train full of Vegas trash. What could go wrong?
Sounds like someone didn’t do well in the casinos. Sorry about your luck.
A highway overcrowded with giant SUVs driven by Hollywood elites. What could go wrong?
Isint there suposed to be 4 stations and not 3 ?
Will I still be alive when its finished?
If you're over 10 probably not.
Absolutely. It took Brightline in Florida 4 years to complete the entire project
@@Scroit that's Florida
My point exactly. This project should be easier and quicker to build because:
1. There are no bodies of water or significant obstacles to clear or build over since it's in the desert
2. Land along the highway allows for a straight connection between the two destinations
@@Scroit I like your positive attitude. You must be young.
They should finish the first rail that was promised over a decade ago… I don’t see this anywhere near what they say by 2028
backdoor Pete B. said that cavemen had trains....
No, he didn’t
@@procrastinatingpuma WoW, so typical...
How close is the LA stop from downtown LA?
How do I apply to work on this train I need a job
Are you union, this is is all union?
@@billthomas2639 man Idc if I’m digging holes a need a better job
Oh sure. Laying RR tracks in the Mohave desert during summer. That will be fulfilling.
@@TheTallMan50 how privileged you must be to consider fulfilling work the most important aspect when looking for a job. But anyway it is still fulfilling being a small part of a huge project like this and saying hey I contributed to this a little even if it was hard work. The hard work actually makes it more fulfilling in my opinion.
Will NEVER complete.
Wow we have sent over $100 billion to Ukraine They just give 3 billion for the train
not very smart are you?
@jamesdick2604 i think your not very smart moron 😂😅
The billions to Ukraine actually mostly goes to US companies that manufacturer weapons and supplies for Ukraine. But still Ukraine gets a lot more than this train
Yeah. Like a pack of bearings will cost 100k because it's military. That's how they make up 100 billion.
US military writes off old equipment, ships that to Ukraine, gets the budget for new equipment.
Wonder who is building it for this project?
Need to get them there ASAP to give to the casino charities!
Great! But there will lots of traffic going to the stations in Rncho Cucamonga and Vegas stations respectively.. Will there be parking lots in those stations for commuters.. .my thoughts.
If you thought of that, I'm quite sure they have.