Great review appreciate how thorough and honest you are you got a new subscriber. I’m looking at a 2023 this weekend and doing my research thanks again
I have my own Speedmaster already but I just love to see other owners’ perspective and your review is spot on. Though I customize mine a lot with the ape bars and so on. I think the green light being on for the DRL is so that when we turn on the ‘lights’ (dipped beam) at night, the green light won’t be too distracting on the dash in the dark of the night, cheers!
Thanks for revisiting the light question. I’m the one in the US who commented on the DRL on your previous video. My bike simply does not have that switch at all on the bars. Only the trigger. I wish I could show a photo. Therefore the light is always on , no DRL. Great video and I still love my Speedmaster.
Thanks for watching again...yea, I was clearly wrong, a few of your countrymen and indeed Canadians have been good enough to talk about the North American differences. It's really interesting how there is a difference.
Hey, its Phill here in Vancouver saying hello again! I love your videos and your bike (almost as much as I love Speedmaster!) Wish I could send you a picture or two. I am so happy you are still thrilled with your machine, as am I and it seems, countless other folks who have the Speedmaster. It is certainly a wonderful bike indeed! Mine is the Cranberry red one, same brown quilted seat as yours with the matching pillion seat and back rest, white wall tires, bobber style straight handle bars and bar end mirrors and a Dart Marlin fly screen. Anyway, one comment on your review is that here in North America the lighting is configured differently than in the UK. We do not have daylight running lights on the Speedmaster, in fact we do not even have the on/off switch on the left handle bar. So, our headlight (and tail light) are on continuously. We have the small switch in front of the handle bar, but that only switches between high and low beam, so we cannot "flash" the lights like you can. We can only turn the high beam on and back to low beam, rather than "flash"! Perhaps Transport Canada, our vehicle approval authority, thought that "flashing" was rude or something so they took away our ability to do so. So, the guy in the US who told you it is different here is actually correct. But the review is great, and I am completely in agreement with it. Good job and keep up the good work Foz!
Hi there, have only just caught your channel in youtube. Thankyou so much for your comprehensive review of the Triumph Speedmaster. I love this bike and have just put a deposit on one ( 24 model in black of course- although my wife wanted red) I'm selling my Speedtwin 900 ( chrome edition in Hopper red) to fund the purchase and can't wait for delivery! Many thanks and cheers from OZ.
Excellent review of this new classic. “Best Bonneville Triumph ever made.” A big statement, but I think that there is much truth behind the inspiration of that statement. I just purchased a 2022 Goldline Speedmaster LE because I feel the same way, am retiring soon, and want something classy that I will not want to sell. It’s the attention to details, the retro look to it, but more-so, the beauty of it as a work of motorcycle art.
I’m awaiting mine to arrive at the dealership this month. I’ve enjoyed your videos as a great way to get acquainted with the bike - though one’s use of a windscreen is relative to height. And they help with the highway speeds here in Texas. I’ve cruised them at speeds up to 85mph, and any windscreen definitely helps to hold on.
Yea the screen is definitely height dependant - I had to put an extender on mine because of being a little taller which I talk about in this vid - ruclips.net/video/pyES7o7kprc/видео.html
Really enjoyed your review, and all the other FozBox videos. I have a new Speedmaster on order for delivery at the end of November. Can't wait to get riding again. As you seem to ride in my neck of the woods (Wiltshire between Salisbury and Marlborough) keep your eyes open for a red Speedmaster - it could be me !
Beautiful bike ! Just found your channel, I'm happy to support you and other fellow motovloggers. Best of luck with your efforts, I look forward to seeing more from you. Take care and ride safe out there 💯💯👍👍
Puts a smile on my face every time I ride the Speedy - so easy to place feet down (for a 'retired' rider) - so easy to ride. Get an open face to fully enjoy the ownership. Don't like the jolts over bumps (maybe some thought into aftermarket shocks). Had to take all the quadlock and GPS stuff off my bars as they totally spoilt the look and retro feel of the machine. I have not taken the bike on a long tour yet, but it may come to the IOM with me next spring if it's all open again to experience the 36 miles of total fun. Like you, I dither as to whether to fit or remove the screen - there are after market ones that come off with a simple catch so maybe that's the answer. As you say, what's not to like. PS, Foz, join the Avon Bike Club and come along on one of our rides!
Nice review - real world stuff, like it. I picked up a new Speedmaster last Friday (June 22) and absolutely love it! Traded in my GS, which was a great all-rounder, but a bit dull. The Speedy has reintroduced me to the 'grin factor' ! Looks like Salisbury and surrounding areas in the video - I know it well. Used to live in Amesbury, but been in Pewsey for a few years now.
Two great tips for me during that excellent review. I now understand how the light works with the switch (I've been running for 4 days with the night mode set....!) and I've returned my Denali Split Sound Bomb (plus relay and wiring kit) for the plug and play Sound Bomb Mini. What has made the bike special for me is the addition of a pair of footboards (Kit 9770117). It now feels like a real cruiser and changing up gears with my heal is a revelation.... Thanks for the review.
@@ursbasel730 Hi, i find it easier to ride as im not having to hunt for the forward footrests. Riding home from the dealership (prior to fitting the footboards) was strange as i certainly wasn't used to the forward controls. The footboards are more comfortable for me, i can shift my feet around quite a bit and today i actually stood upright for a few seconds to ease my (bad) back. I certainly couldn't have done that on the forward pegs. Cant comment on the grounding out as ive only put 260 miles on the bike. Still running in so haven't been pushing too hard. The footboards do have grounding plates, in place of the hero blobs on the pegs and they do pivot upwards if needed.
@@mrcraighew1 Hi Craig, Thank you for your answer. This sounds goot. I know driving with footboards from testdrives with Motoguzzi and Harley and I like it much. It is realy comfortable. I hafe to go for a testride with a Speedmaster an see, if this bike fits for me, and how's the leanangle. If I'm going to buy one, then I must have footboards as well. Best regards.
Great bike to ride, im really pleased with mine, except........ive been told there are no passenger backrests available until JANUARY 2022 at the earliest!! I cant use the bike as i wanted to without one as my partner wont go on it without the security of a back rest, Triumph get your act together please!
Thank you sharing this video. I love listening to the engine! I believe Triumph Speedmaster is the most beautifully designed / best cruiser out there :)
Looking to add the Bobber with apes as my second bike next to my R1250R. However, a new Bobber is $13,400, but it would probably be $15k with apes, a seat, and taxes. Hardly any used Bobbers, but there are two 2018 Speedmasters near me, both with apes. One is red with 5k miles, some Motone parts, and the brown quilted seat. The other is two-toned paint, with 900 miles, the comfort seat, and windshield. Dealers are asking roughly $10,500 for each. I might be getting a used Speedmaster over a Bobber. Closing on my house on Thursday, so I’ll be purchasing soon after.
Thanks! Both excellent machines but ride quite differently…surprisingly. Speedmaster is more practical and you can make it look bobberesque. The bobber is ‘cooler’ but recommend the bobber black variant for improved front double brakes 👍🏻
I have a 2020 Speedmaster and it is a wonderful riding bike fir the rider. The passenger pillion seat is abysmal. It is small, hard, and uncomfortable. The padded, quilted aftermarket pillion seat is no better and expensive. How about offering the one piece, padded seat, like the pre-2018 Speedmastwr?
Just watched your Road Test - so glad you purchased one. It also seems RUclips is pushing your content at last as I didn't search "Speedmaster". Won't be long before the 2,000th Sub and then they'll be no looking back.
That is one nice review! The bike is excellent but the small gas tank…I don’t know, but it can be a dealbreaker for me. Have to test the bike and decide after that. Many thanks!
Yea it is small - generally achieve about 150miles per tank. It's a 12 litre tank but will say empty after you've used 10 - quite good really as means you don't get stranded!
Enjoyed that. I was very fond of my 2020 Speedmaster, but a 1300 kilometre tour nearly killed my butt, so the Triumph had to go. Hope you get many thousands of miles of blissful riding on your Speedie.
@@fozbox I found the original equipment seat on the 2020 to be no better than the brown quilted Triumph accessory seat. Maybe the touring seat with the extra tail bone cushion would be the solution. Cheers!
On my 2022 T120 (US Model - delivered in California), there is no daytime running light switch. the headlight goes on when the bike is running and you have the "bright" switch - that's it. I suspect the Speedmaster is the same (can anyone confirm ?)
yes, the North American model does not have daytime running lights. The main headlight is on all the time either high or low beam. Made a comment to FozBoz up above.....
Confirmed(2019 Speedmaster-U.S.). Daytime is constantly running as standard. No switch on the rider facing side of the controls; just the forward facing button to activate/deactivate high beam.
Hi ! We have daylight running in NZ. As in green light also displaying on dial face as well. In USA can you turn the light off as you also have an on-off switch ?
Actually that is just tennis racket grip but Triumph do do a brown one to match the brown quilt seat. I’ve now taken off the tennis racket grips stuff as it was too slippery
I can confirm Mr Fozbox that North American models do not have the option for just the day time running. Dipped or full bean only due to regulatory requirements sadly.
I'm a strapping six footer, but even with my long and shapely legs, I found the persistent swallowing of saliva, followed by the lip-smacking, rather irritating.
I like these reviews but feel compelled to say that I think this bike is not a good one. I had not realised that the retro / classic / heritage thing extended to a squidgy brakes, clonky gear change, a refusal to change line when cornering, stained engine casings and shocking levels of vibration. I walked to the car park - 50 steps, and then rode it a steady 200 miles up the motorway - 27, 336 steps. So please consider carefully if this bike is for you. It isn't for me. That said, please keep up these excellent review. Did I mention it is slow? Oh how!, and I'm no street racer, just an old man trying to get passed an hgv on a single carriageway safely.
I must say I am amazed by your view of this bike - don't get me wrong I know it isn't for everyone - I just haven't had any of the issues you mention apart from the engine casing which I admit reacts badly to salted roads etc. Did you come to this bike from having a lights sports bike before?
Perhaps the Ducati Panigale V4 will be more to your liking. Or other sports bike models. I was somewhat taken back of your comment. The Triumph retros are kinda their to remind us of bygone eras. No pretences are made as to what you are saying. The bikes are not made to go a million miles an hour around bends etc etc. They have a certain sedateness and philosophy to the . For me I like what Triumph, CCM ( England ) and Janus ( Indiana USA ) are doing. If what you are saying is correct of which I know it isn’t, why bother test riding the bike ? The brakes are more than adequate, gearbox and clutch are great. The bike is a work of art to me and a nice looking bike. Character, heritage and history. The bike can cruise 100 Kmh easily. Is it a race ? That’s why part of me is sick of doing group rides. One up man ship is not for me. Triumphs are far more higher quality than RE and the price reflects that. Regards.
I love my Speedmaster and its nothing like you describe, I find its comfortable enough for a 200 mile ride which I did last week, its economical on fuel, it handles well enough for me and fast enough for me, I went from a Speed Twin to this bike so I know the differences, so stick to your moped until you get a real bike.
I have one! A black and white 2021 model. The best bike I have ever owned and that includes several Harleys!
It's quite a machine isn't it!
Great review appreciate how thorough and honest you are you got a new subscriber. I’m looking at a 2023 this weekend and doing my research thanks again
Thanks for the sub! Glad you found it helpful 👍🏻
I have my own Speedmaster already but I just love to see other owners’ perspective and your review is spot on. Though I customize mine a lot with the ape bars and so on. I think the green light being on for the DRL is so that when we turn on the ‘lights’ (dipped beam) at night, the green light won’t be too distracting on the dash in the dark of the night, cheers!
Thanks, glad you liked the review 👍🏻
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Thanks for revisiting the light question. I’m the one in the US who commented on the DRL on your previous video. My bike simply does not have that switch at all on the bars. Only the trigger. I wish I could show a photo. Therefore the light is always on , no DRL. Great video and I still love my Speedmaster.
Thanks for watching again...yea, I was clearly wrong, a few of your countrymen and indeed Canadians have been good enough to talk about the North American differences. It's really interesting how there is a difference.
I'm the owner of a Bonneville T120 and have to say I really enjoyed your review.
Awesome, thank you!
Hey, its Phill here in Vancouver saying hello again! I love your videos and your bike (almost as much as I love Speedmaster!) Wish I could send you a picture or two. I am so happy you are still thrilled with your machine, as am I and it seems, countless other folks who have the Speedmaster. It is certainly a wonderful bike indeed! Mine is the Cranberry red one, same brown quilted seat as yours with the matching pillion seat and back rest, white wall tires, bobber style straight handle bars and bar end mirrors and a Dart Marlin fly screen.
Anyway, one comment on your review is that here in North America the lighting is configured differently than in the UK. We do not have daylight running lights on the Speedmaster, in fact we do not even have the on/off switch on the left handle bar. So, our headlight (and tail light) are on continuously. We have the small switch in front of the handle bar, but that only switches between high and low beam, so we cannot "flash" the lights like you can. We can only turn the high beam on and back to low beam, rather than "flash"! Perhaps Transport Canada, our vehicle approval authority, thought that "flashing" was rude or something so they took away our ability to do so. So, the guy in the US who told you it is different here is actually correct.
But the review is great, and I am completely in agreement with it. Good job and keep up the good work Foz!
Thanks very much! Also cheers for the info on the North American variant. Your bike sounds beautiful - jealous of the cranberry red!
Hi there, have only just caught your channel in youtube. Thankyou so much for your comprehensive review of the Triumph Speedmaster. I love this bike and have just put a deposit on one ( 24 model in black of course- although my wife wanted red) I'm selling my Speedtwin 900 ( chrome edition in Hopper red) to fund the purchase and can't wait for delivery! Many thanks and cheers from OZ.
Thanks for watching! I originally wanted red too, but actually very pleased with the black 👌🏻
Excellent review of this new classic. “Best Bonneville Triumph ever made.” A big statement, but I think that there is much truth behind the inspiration of that statement. I just purchased a 2022 Goldline Speedmaster LE because I feel the same way, am retiring soon, and want something classy that I will not want to sell. It’s the attention to details, the retro look to it, but more-so, the beauty of it as a work of motorcycle art.
Totally agree - it really is a thoroughly beautiful bike
I’m awaiting mine to arrive at the dealership this month. I’ve enjoyed your videos as a great way to get acquainted with the bike - though one’s use of a windscreen is relative to height. And they help with the highway speeds here in Texas. I’ve cruised them at speeds up to 85mph, and any windscreen definitely helps to hold on.
Yea the screen is definitely height dependant - I had to put an extender on mine because of being a little taller which I talk about in this vid - ruclips.net/video/pyES7o7kprc/видео.html
Thanks for your time spent on convincing me to test ride. Currently riding triumph America 15000 miles. Love the bike but time for something new2023
Americas are very cool!
no bike is perfect , excellent review especially covering the rear bags, those stock pipes are something else, ballsie , rumble rumble , great fun
Thanks! 👍
Really enjoyed your review, and all the other FozBox videos. I have a new Speedmaster on order for delivery at the end of November. Can't wait to get riding again. As you seem to ride in my neck of the woods (Wiltshire between Salisbury and Marlborough) keep your eyes open for a red Speedmaster - it could be me !
How exciting for you! Yup, my neck of the woods so I shall get my salute ready for when I see you
Beautiful bike ! Just found your channel, I'm happy to support you and other fellow motovloggers. Best of luck with your efforts, I look forward to seeing more from you. Take care and ride safe out there 💯💯👍👍
Thanks 👍🏻
Puts a smile on my face every time I ride the Speedy - so easy to place feet down (for a 'retired' rider) - so easy to ride. Get an open face to fully enjoy the ownership. Don't like the jolts over bumps (maybe some thought into aftermarket shocks). Had to take all the quadlock and GPS stuff off my bars as they totally spoilt the look and retro feel of the machine. I have not taken the bike on a long tour yet, but it may come to the IOM with me next spring if it's all open again to experience the 36 miles of total fun. Like you, I dither as to whether to fit or remove the screen - there are after market ones that come off with a simple catch so maybe that's the answer. As you say, what's not to like. PS, Foz, join the Avon Bike Club and come along on one of our rides!
It really does, such a great bike to ride! I know what you mean about the quad lock etc. Send me a link to the club 👍🏻
Nice review - real world stuff, like it. I picked up a new Speedmaster last Friday (June 22) and absolutely love it! Traded in my GS, which was a great all-rounder, but a bit dull. The Speedy has reintroduced me to the 'grin factor' ! Looks like Salisbury and surrounding areas in the video - I know it well. Used to live in Amesbury, but been in Pewsey for a few years now.
Yea good spot, it was in and around Salisbury. As you say the Speedmaster really makes you smile, delighted you’re enjoying yours 👍🏻
Two great tips for me during that excellent review.
I now understand how the light works with the switch (I've been running for 4 days with the night mode set....!)
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I've returned my Denali Split Sound Bomb (plus relay and wiring kit) for the plug and play Sound Bomb Mini.
What has made the bike special for me is the addition of a pair of footboards (Kit 9770117). It now feels like a real cruiser and changing up gears with my heal is a revelation....
Thanks for the review.
Glad you liked it and found it helpful. Not sure how I’d get used to changing with my heel 😂 but can definitely see the appeal of foot boards
Hi Craig. How is it to drive with the footboards? Do they touch the road earlier than the standard footrest?
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Hi, i find it easier to ride as im not having to hunt for the forward footrests. Riding home from the dealership (prior to fitting the footboards) was strange as i certainly wasn't used to the forward controls.
The footboards are more comfortable for me, i can shift my feet around quite a bit and today i actually stood upright for a few seconds to ease my (bad) back. I certainly couldn't have done that on the forward pegs.
Cant comment on the grounding out as ive only put 260 miles on the bike. Still running in so haven't been pushing too hard. The footboards do have grounding plates, in place of the hero blobs on the pegs and they do pivot upwards if needed.
@@mrcraighew1 Hi Craig, Thank you for your answer. This sounds goot. I know driving with footboards from testdrives with Motoguzzi and Harley and I like it much. It is realy comfortable. I hafe to go for a testride with a Speedmaster an see, if this bike fits for me, and how's the leanangle. If I'm going to buy one, then I must have footboards as well. Best regards.
Great bike to ride, im really pleased with mine, except........ive been told there are no passenger backrests available until JANUARY 2022 at the earliest!! I cant use the bike as i wanted to without one as my partner wont go on it without the security of a back rest, Triumph get your act together please!
Wow, that's so long. Try the Speedmaster facebook page - 2nd hand parts are often being sold on there
Just build one out of some old rebar and steel
Thank you sharing this video. I love listening to the engine! I believe Triumph Speedmaster is the most beautifully designed / best cruiser out there :)
Couldn't agree more!
Looking to add the Bobber with apes as my second bike next to my R1250R. However, a new Bobber is $13,400, but it would probably be $15k with apes, a seat, and taxes. Hardly any used Bobbers, but there are two 2018 Speedmasters near me, both with apes. One is red with 5k miles, some Motone parts, and the brown quilted seat. The other is two-toned paint, with 900 miles, the comfort seat, and windshield. Dealers are asking roughly $10,500 for each. I might be getting a used Speedmaster over a Bobber. Closing on my house on Thursday, so I’ll be purchasing soon after.
Lots of exciting changes in your life!! Congrats
Nice review. I own a T100, and am thinking of trading up to either a Speedmaster, or Bobber. Torn! Love them both. Have not ridden either.
Thanks! Both excellent machines but ride quite differently…surprisingly. Speedmaster is more practical and you can make it look bobberesque. The bobber is ‘cooler’ but recommend the bobber black variant for improved front double brakes 👍🏻
@@fozbox when you say more practical, how so?
@@926rosey well you can put luggage and a pillion on the Speedmaster but not on the bobber
I have a 2020 Speedmaster and it is a wonderful riding bike fir the rider. The passenger pillion seat is abysmal. It is small, hard, and uncomfortable. The padded, quilted aftermarket pillion seat is no better and expensive. How about offering the one piece, padded seat, like the pre-2018 Speedmastwr?
The pillion seat is a joke. A one piece might be better but I wouldn’t count on it 😂
Just watched your Road Test - so glad you purchased one. It also seems RUclips is pushing your content at last as I didn't search "Speedmaster". Won't be long before the 2,000th Sub and then they'll be no looking back.
You read it? Yea I hope so 🤞🏻. Glad it’s being pushed a little bit. I probably need to upload more often for that to happen…😂
@@fozbox Read? I know, sorry.
Enjoying your videos. Loving my Speedmaster👍
Glad you like them!
That is one nice review!
The bike is excellent but the small gas tank…I don’t know, but it can be a dealbreaker for me. Have to test the bike and decide after that.
Many thanks!
Yea it is small - generally achieve about 150miles per tank. It's a 12 litre tank but will say empty after you've used 10 - quite good really as means you don't get stranded!
Also purchased the Corbin solo seat with backrest well worth the money
Once there is a bit more cash floating around I think I'll check it out
Enjoyed that. I was very fond of my 2020 Speedmaster, but a 1300 kilometre tour nearly killed my butt, so the Triumph had to go. Hope you get many thousands of miles of blissful riding on your Speedie.
Yup - every 90mins i need to get off for a bum rub! I suppose it might be better if I had the touring seat...
@@fozbox I found the original equipment seat on the 2020 to be no better than the brown quilted Triumph accessory seat. Maybe the touring seat with the extra tail bone cushion would be the solution. Cheers!
Can I ask what you bought instead that is more comfy on long rides?.
Enjoyed your presentation. 👍
Thank you 👍🏻
The bags actually look much better reversed as you suggested imo.
Only the best info here 😂😂
Very informative video, thank you.
Thank you 👍🏻
A functional and fun review vid. Useful real, everyday info well presented. Cheers Foz Box, now want to empty savings more than ever 😂
Haha 😂 yea the savings do take a bit of hit!!
I have the red. They call it Cranberry.
It's delicious - lucky you!
On my 2022 T120 (US Model - delivered in California), there is no daytime running light switch. the headlight goes on when the bike is running and you have the "bright" switch - that's it. I suspect the Speedmaster is the same (can anyone confirm ?)
Same with my 2018 Speedmaster.
Interesting to hear
yes, the North American model does not have daytime running lights. The main headlight is on all the time either high or low beam. Made a comment to FozBoz up above.....
Confirmed(2019 Speedmaster-U.S.). Daytime is constantly running as standard. No switch on the rider facing side of the controls; just the forward facing button to activate/deactivate high beam.
Hi ! We have daylight running in NZ. As in green light also displaying on dial face as well. In USA can you turn the light off as you also have an on-off switch ?
Have you noticed any weird vibration under hard acceleration at highway speeds? (65mph and up)
Well the speed limit is 70mph so obviously I have never gone above that! But no I haven’t noticed unusual vibration, more than you’d expect.
@@fozbox ok, thanks!
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FozBox where u get those grips?
Actually that is just tennis racket grip but Triumph do do a brown one to match the brown quilt seat. I’ve now taken off the tennis racket grips stuff as it was too slippery
love the gloves mate
Thanks 🤩
Great bike. Solid review.
Thanks! 👍
Curious what Corbin seat you're referring to. My back and bum be singing after a long ride.
Which seat do you have? You must have a very fine arse 😂
@@fozbox I've got the stock seat (non-tourer) and a tuned ass.
I can confirm Mr Fozbox that North American models do not have the option for just the day time running. Dipped or full bean only due to regulatory requirements sadly.
Thanks for the update from the US 👍🏻
I’m seriously considering buying one of these.
As a new rider is this too much bike for a newbie..?
Well insurance might be too much but the bike itself is very kind and easy to use
Mate, what is the rack on the rear mudguard where the pillion pad was?
It’s just the standard Triumph rear seat replacement
Beautiful all black 🌻
Yea it really is
Good review thanks
Thanks for watching!
Dream bike.....
So is!!!
Saddlebags are supposed to be on the right...
...and left
Ok!!!
I'm a strapping six footer, but even with my long and shapely legs, I found the persistent swallowing of saliva, followed by the lip-smacking, rather irritating.
Quite what being 6ft with shapely legs has to do with the ability to appreciate saliva swallowing I'm not sure?! But thanks for watching haha
S&G😂
s&g??
I like these reviews but feel compelled to say that I think this bike is not a good one. I had not realised that the retro / classic / heritage thing extended to a squidgy brakes, clonky gear change, a refusal to change line when cornering, stained engine casings and shocking levels of vibration. I walked to the car park - 50 steps, and then rode it a steady 200 miles up the motorway - 27, 336 steps. So please consider carefully if this bike is for you. It isn't for me. That said, please keep up these excellent review. Did I mention it is slow? Oh how!, and I'm no street racer, just an old man trying to get passed an hgv on a single carriageway safely.
I must say I am amazed by your view of this bike - don't get me wrong I know it isn't for everyone - I just haven't had any of the issues you mention apart from the engine casing which I admit reacts badly to salted roads etc. Did you come to this bike from having a lights sports bike before?
Not my experience at all. Are you sure it was a Speedmaster and not a Royal Enfield...?
Perhaps the Ducati Panigale V4 will be more to your liking. Or other sports bike models. I was somewhat taken back of your comment. The Triumph retros are kinda their to remind us of bygone eras. No pretences are made as to what you are saying. The bikes are not made to go a million miles an hour around bends etc etc. They have a certain sedateness and philosophy to the .
For me I like what Triumph, CCM ( England ) and Janus ( Indiana USA ) are doing. If what you are saying is correct of which I know it isn’t, why bother test riding the bike ? The brakes are more than adequate, gearbox and clutch are great. The bike is a work of art to me and a nice looking bike. Character, heritage and history. The bike can cruise 100 Kmh easily. Is it a race ? That’s why part of me is sick of doing group rides. One up man ship is not for me.
Triumphs are far more higher quality than RE and the price reflects that.
Regards.
@@mrcraighew1 Exactly !!!
I love my Speedmaster and its nothing like you describe, I find its comfortable enough for a 200 mile ride which I did last week, its economical on fuel, it handles well enough for me and fast enough for me, I went from a Speed Twin to this bike so I know the differences, so stick to your moped until you get a real bike.