Me and the Air Force (Why I got out)
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- In this video I discuss a topic that I see a lot of people speculating about and that I get a lot of questions about. In this video I explain what happened with the Air Force and why I got out.
Note I have no negativity towards the Air Force or security forces despite my song selection during the outro.
I feel your pain. Was a MSgt at 10 years. I was on the fast track for Chief. No doubt about it. Retired as a MSgt at 22 yrs because of one mistake...12 years in the same pay grade. Why did I stay? Had a family dude. Worked my ass off! Did everything needed to get promoted and filled every blank possible...yet not! Anyway here comes 22 years and I was #1 non selectee...was a shoe in for Senior. Everyone asked me to stay and what would it take for me to stay. Fuck that. Had a Masters in hand and I told them I was outta there. I let them pay for all of my college as was my plan. Now I've been retired for 15 years got a superb job, a monthly retirement check and have been flush with $$ ever since. Don't look back my friend. I never did, and will never do so. My only regret was that I wasn't able to do it sooner.
Thanks Ms. Laura.
His mistake was that he pissed off the central promotion board for not getting promoted to Senior MSgt. After they told him he didn't have the technical and leadership experience to be a SMSgt. If you can't make Senior MSGt. what makes you think your even gonna make Chief MSgt.
@@williammcmilliondot1392 no its possible because that one mistake could keep you from other opportunities you need to make senior. DSD's, volunteer special duties would be off the table because of markdowns and corrective actions. Any kind of paperwork a person gets alot of times dont come out of pifs if you stuck at one base. I Know that firsthand because I was at a base for 10.5 years and still had a LOC in my pif for driving with a cell phone in 2006.
I did the same. Had a master's degree as a staff sgt at 12 years in. Told the AF, fu, I'll do what I want and they gave me a dream job in SOF, Okinawa. Stayed until I knew they were going to send me to shitsville, and retired at 23 years. Moved to Thailand, haven't worked a day since retiring at age 43, in 2005. Invest young grasshoppers! Invest!
Bruh I got out in 2010. I was stationed in guam for 4 years, never deployed. As soon as I got out, my uncle put me on to contracting. within 6 months I landed a $120,000/yr job (yr 2 $135k, yr3 $155k) in iraq working on the flightline doing the exact same thing i did in the AF... I did that for 3 years and now im straight...I suggest everyone join the mil, get your security clearance, GO TO SCHOOL while you're in and get your degree (You make more money), then get out, get your disability money, and become a contractor.... Im 28 I OWN my $190,000 home and my 2013 bmw AMG. No payments...You'd be crazy not to do this. I worked for kbr and flour btw.
+Norbel James you got the bmw amg lol.nice .i got the mercedes M3...
+calin vasile Hahah I was thinking the same thing. I just scooped a 370z TRD
How to you join contractingg
everyone doesn't have an uncle
Norbel James what was your AFSC?
Single guy, living overseas, making close (if not) to 6 figs.... not bad man. I'm happy for your success.
thanks man
he's living the life!
2Kool4SkoolTV wait how did you do that man :0
Yo, im about to leave for my BMT in a week and a half or so. What is ur current job and how do i that job. I'm signing in for 6 yrs but CDC seems like a bitch so..... yea i think 6 yrs is long enough even though i thought i would stay for 10 yrs LOL
how is he making so much?
I feel ya on the force reduction program bro... I was regarded as a super troop by my supervisors, I did volunteer stuff, took college classes, 98%-99% on my PT tests, etc...pisses me off that the worst thing that i got was an LOC for coming late at a commander's call, and for some reason people who got DUI's, failed their PT test, etc, just managed to get under the radar and was able to re-enlist... happy for you that things worked out ... I'm currently frying my brains out studying College trying to make things work out for me... ,I wish you all the best bro...
Ohhh easy one... when caught sleeping, just say "Amen" before opening your eyes... say "I wasn't sleeping, I was praying"... unless you snore... lol
2Kool4SkoolTV, I feel your pain. I was SP/SF and was a SSgt when I got the RIP like you. I was a squared away individual, which I can go into more if you want to talk, but I completely understand where you are coming from. I am glad you found work that lets you do what you were trained to do, wish I could say the same. But as I said, I really do understand.
I got out of the air force in 2003 after 10 years. The pay was a big part of it, felt like I was making poverty for such an important job. I miss my bro's bigtime, other than that I didn't look back. Been working for the railroad every since, I can make more in one day that I did in almost 2 weeks which is sad. Luckly, the railroad retirement board (union retirement plan) counts my 10 years of service towards my total railroad time retirement.
I was in Security Police from 1975 to 1996. I completely understand why you were fucked. Being a outstanding troop is a two edged sword. On one hand, your supervisor can count on you to come to work ready to go, and he doesn't have to closely supervise you because you proved to be trustworthy. But on the other hand, he probably saw you potentially leaping over him, and now your competing with him. Unfortunately, I found that as you go up in rank, the more politics comes into play. You seem like someone who could have been a very successful Cop, but was seen as a threat to some peoples careers. It sucks, but that's a fact of SP life. It doesn't matter how good you are, or how many lives you save, or how well you represent the Squadron to others, there's always someone looking to screw a good person just because they drink with the right people after work or run to the back office ratting out the people they work with, to curry favor with the Senior NCO's who control your career.
Same shit happened to me in the 80s: there's always someone looking to screw a good person. I wish I could have a gloves off boxing match with the kiss ass mofo.
Yeah, this seems to happen a lot, to many power hungry people, and it causes a pause in your career.
It was meant to be! The Perfect Storm! Keep striving for improvement! Same thing happened to me when I was Active Duty! I had a perfect record and made one mistake. However, I had an in forgiven First Shirt and Commander. Subsequently, I got burned, and a year later I got out voluntarily under a Honorable Discharge. It worked out because I finished up my under graduated at the University of Oklahoma, went on to Law School in San Diego, and I' m now practicing law. If not for my mistake, I would still be serving, and who knows where I would be.
Stay up brotha! Watching this in Afghan...very motivating!!!
If you get time could make a video on the volunteering that you were talking about. And go into more detail about what there is to do.
Yea i can definitely do that.
2Kool4SkoolTV Where the new vids at. I wanna know more about your contracting stuff man.
sleep on post... I think we all been thru that. remember cops eat there own at times, And I completely agreed with you. Now I'm seperating after 13 years of service. And still don't really know what I want to do.
Good to see the new success you are having now that you are out of the AF. I am currently planning on enlisting into the AF. I have already begun the process and should be heading up to MEPS next week hopefully.
I've been hearing way too many stories like that lately. Glad you landed on your feet.
sounds like that set back made it so you ended up in a better situation now bro..good stuff. Im considering exiting the service after 6 years and looking for contract work myself.. feel like that is the way to go
The Air Force has always gone for force reductions when they are denied their budget request. They do this to teach the folks in congress and the Pentagon a lesson. They then institute their unwritten rules such as anyone who has received an article 15 is normally the first rule spoken by commanders in the staff meetings. The next is anyone who is not making progress regarding the weight management program. Then it is anyone who has a letter of reprimand. They stack the files on the desk and put them in varied stacks and go from there. That has been the way they have operated since the eighties {80's}.
When I joined the air force in the late 70's, there was a serious weight problem with senior NCO's. It took a while for the air force to come out with the "Fat Boy Program" to start telling these fat NCO's to lose the weight or lose the rank. Then they no longer accepted GED recipients. You had to have a high school diploma to be accepted in the air force. Then you can no longer retire as an E-5 anymore. As an E-5 you had to make the rank of E-6 on your 15th year or get fuck out. So basically you retired as an E-6 or above after 20 years.
I can ABSOLUTELY vouch for exactly what your talking about here and how the AF completely fcks people who are truly trying their hardest. We get E-5S in leadership roles that have ZERO clue what they are doing, and literally since they cannot perform their jobs correctly they CONSTANTLY try to hem people up. I am gonna say I defer from you my friend, I DO have resentments from the AF, however ide give it my ALL if I had another chance. Your situation is a sad one, I saw so many great airman get ran over by trumped up sergeants that couldn't do half the job the airman was doing. Good luck brother! Keep your chin up my man.
Glad to see you out making a good living, man. Sucks to get busted for sleeping out on the line lol. I'm a maintainer, and I knew SF men and women that slept every day out on the ramp haha.
Yea man it's crazy but it's all good. I know people that actually bring pillows and blankets to work just to go to sleep lol smh.
That's a messed up situation man. I think security forces and maintenance such as myself are pretty susceptible to getting those "blemishes". The roll back/outs are real man. Glad it led to something better.
Yeah that wasn't cool at all...I know ppl in my career field with 1 blemish on their record...I'm one of those people who got pass the rollback and force shaping that just happened. What I'm trying to say is God had better plans for you and thanks for sharing your story...not many people do so well after the military because the feel their life is essentially over...I'm sure you have given many who watched this and going through what you went through hope. I don't even know you and I'm proud of you... Keep running greyhound! No where to go but up #Hooah
Holy shit! Good to see a video from you man!
This happened to me but I was just a Security Police augmentee. I was stationed at Mildenhall UK and worked in finance. I was involuntarily chosen on this exercise war time dutee. It was February and insanely cold out on the flight line. I had already done two nights in a row sitting in a fox hole in Chem gear with no radio and some kind of flight line heater blowing in my face. I had a super bad cold. I told the flight chief I didn't feel good be he didn't seem to care. It was about 3 in the morning and I was doing the ole head bob. I tried to walk around but to no avail. All of a sudden here comes the first shirt he whacked me on the side of the helmet with a stick, threw me in the back of a security truck and took me into some room like I was a criminal. When I finally got back to my regular squadron I went to see my commander. He gave me an article 15 but no severe punishment. The asshole Security police commander wanted to see me go to correctional custody, loose a stripe the whole nine yards. My commander thought that was too severe being a first term airman with no blemishes on my record. The only thing that ever did to me was prevent me from going BTZ. I will never forget when my commander told me about the assholeness of the SP commander. To this day I feel sorry for anyone that has to deal with that organization. No fault of your own. I sympathize, what was weird was about a year later I had another friend this happened to but he lost a stripe because he had previously pissed of the commander.
I’ve been retired since 1995. I agree with you. The good people seem to get screwed over and somebody that stayed in trouble, nothing ever happened to them. I got out under clinton’s RIF. Moved seven times in 18 1/2 years not counting basic and school. Miss some of the people but not the management.
June Osborne basic + school took year and half🤔❓
Enjoyed watching your video thank you. I was SF from 06-12 and AFR IMA 12-14 I am currently looking for contract work similar to SF.
Stephen Singleton shoot me an email. thesonnymorgan@gmail.com
I truly understand how its possible to fall asleep guarding the flight line. When its quiet, and not much happening, it can happen to anyone. My position in the AF (Reserve) was flightline maintenance. At least we were busy most of the time. The night shift can be tough on anyone. You've got to get your sleep though.....
failed my asvab yesterday, i feel like an idiot
What did you score?
04Stang bombed it with a 25, asvab for dummies book didn't help me for shit. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Amir Williams I would just invest majority of your time studying arithmetic and math dude. The books I used to pass the test are the asvab for dummies, cliffnotes asvab cram plan, and Barron's asvab book. I got all 3 at a local Barnes and Noble. Just study for awhile and retake it when you feel you're ready! Math and arithmetic are key
04Stang thanks for the advice. i will for sure give it a try, i'm not gonna give up.
Amir Williams what did you get on the practice asvab?
Ahaha... the SSgt was probably like "Hey why don't I knock myself out too?"
DOS rollbacks make people get out earlier than their original "separation" date, and, usually catch people off-guard. Sometimes those folks are ineligible to reenlist for some reason (disciplinary, etc.). They put themselves in that category. Sometimes they just can't get a Career Job Reservation in their current career field and are also ineligible to cross-train. Those are the ones I feel for. Aside: Sleeping on duty or at a post is called "Misbehavior of a sentry". It's a crime in the military. It's not usually the only thing that can get you ousted, but it can be the capper. It's especially bad for a Security Forces trooper.
Roger that. There are rules, if you cannot follow them, its not for you. This gentleman's bearing does not give one the impression of a model trooper by any means. When there are cuts, the low hanging fruit cakes get the chop first. Sorry that you had a bad experience. I did 8 and got out to make more money, it was a good experience, its what you make out of it.
I completely understand where you coming from I joined the Air Force and saw most of your videos I see it everyday idk how DBA's fly under the radar but they do
Wailp that’s 10 minutes I’m never gonna get back in my life lol
Nice story mate. I'm about to enter AF OTS but I have a completely unrelated question.
What's the outro song?
Good luck!
Fuck The Police - NWA
Red lol
I came through in the 90s as SF... I know what you mean about shitin on the good ones! good luck brother!
If I am not mistaken DOS role back Date of separation means he did not make rank in time. So in other words he didn't work he just volunteer'd and didn't make rank in time.
Dustin Flippo Yes they move your date of separation back, basically cutting your enlistment short. But no, it had nothing to do with me making rank. I was actually on track to get promoted early before this situation happened.
+Dustin Flippo Your talking about Higher Tenure.
That song outro is too funny
congrats on your success & thanks for such a descriptive video
I hear you man... Loved what I did and ready to do it (I was known as the" human O.I."). I was medically discharged while some not-so-squared away troops were kept in. I can empathize totally about the whole BTZ, dozing off story. HUA
I think we may have done changeover once or twice when i stationed at Dover. My flight chief was Gonzo for a little bit but i worked commercial gate for a little bit as well. I'm happy you are doing good.
I totally understand where your coming from... You will have people in every work place like that... It seems like it happens to the ones that go above and beyond... I'm in Law Enforcement and you have people that will go behind your back just to move up...
I was aircraft maintenance myself. We had these problems pretty bad, but we all heard Security Forces had it the worst. Every week, we heard stories on our base about "cannibal cops", Security Forces guys who'd go way out of their way to knock each other out of the race for promotion over trivial shit like what happened to you. No idea how true those stories were, but judging from my own experiences, they don't seem far fetched.
Glad to hear that everything is better! Just drop that air force life, you are making BANK NOW!
I feel you on the whole "good guys get f**ked over, and the dirtbags breeze by or just get out". I wasn't SF, but happened in my field for sure. I empathize your situation. Two things: we really don't know what some of the dirtbags' records look like (I used to wonder those dirtbags MUST be worse than me and they're STILL in!). The other is it does seem to be the case where they liked to be fucking harsh on those performing well with good character, and more of a shrug-off or talking-to with the DBA's. Never made sense to me.
My uncle did this after he retired, he makes over 200k a year.
I am Ex-Marine Corps, November 1990 to November 1994. Everything that you mentioned I totally agree with and have mostly experienced myself. Especially the part about the "dirtbags" that fly under the radar.
I had a BA, and I find out that it's nearly impossible to get in as an officer these days. As a result, the next option was enlisting. During my DEP, I had to move back to my home state and had to delay it. Two weeks left to BMT, but two weeks before I leave I sprain my ankle training for prep. It heals and I try again, and the day before I leave to Lackland, the doctor DQ'ed me for having eczema. I'd have to start the whole process over again, so I said "fuck it." The universe, God, Jesus, whomever you believe in, was telling me that the Air Force wasn't for me, and I truly believe that. I've heard about USAF cutting airmen....
+Brian Smith I obtained email addresses of officer recruiters, and the initial contact was made, but they dont respond afterwards. My theory is so many people are trying to get in the air force as an officer that they dont have to respond. At the San Diego MEPS, the air force recruiter told me that I should try to get in as an officer since I have a BA, but he told me that its near impossible. They had 30 applicants that were eligible and worth considering, but they only chose one, and he was a harvard grad with a 4.0 gpa and graduated with a STEM degree. I was like WTF>>
+Brian Smith yeah, it's ridiculous, but it's understandable because the military has great benefits and free school, etc. all these guys that don't care much about the military are joining because of it. I can't join anyway because of my eczema.
The usaf is very short on people. A lot of people where given the opportunity to leave early and a lot of people were kicked out. So much people left that now manning is bad. There are certain AFSC that need people. Best job I recommend with good hours is personelist. This AFSC is critical.
So if you want to join go for it. Officer is way better than enlisted. Get a waiver for your exima. Or don't tell them. They don't know anything unless you tell them because of privacy act 1974.
Consider you getting dq a blessing because going in as an enlisted while you have a ba is like getting screwed from the prison dude baba
Wow that is messed up sorry to hear that happened to you. At least you are doing well now.
So handsome... Much love!!
I feel your pain !!!
Never understood how my discrepancy got me booted, yet the 19 y.o on his second DUI + stayed under the radar and In...
I had multiple letters from instructors and commanders too on what a great asset I was...
My offense:
I joined the Army at 18, got hurt, took a general discharge...
Joined USAF at 26 when asked if I was prior service I marked NO according to what my recruiter told me...
I was in the Army LESS than 180 days and did not receive any benefits so its a NO...
My 1st Sgt and new commander didnt see it that way...
Charged me with falsifying an official document... :(
+Amir Williams dude don't fret I failed mine the first time then I took it again and passed it your ASVAB is like a pool of 1500 hundred questions your score can vary so much
keep being your self brotha.. god had a better plan for you. godbless
sleeping on guard is (as stupid as it sounds) gets you pretty bad punishment, its so serious, getting caught sleeping on guard basically ends your career right there.. the rule for getting shot while sleeping on guard is still in on paper.. obviously no one will get shot, but big punishments are to follow with dozing off on guard duty... sucks man
Don't sweat it bro, i was communications i used to sleep all the time working the night shift staring at computer screens lol granted i wasnt supposed to be protecting the perimeter, but hey...i feel you
5:25 At this moment in the video, I knew where the story was going. LOL I got caught sleeping one time too, but was lucky enough not to get into trouble.
I was surprised to hear about the rollback. I never thought I'd see the day that the AF would force people out of Security Forces. When I was in, they were always undermanned.
Serving you country is more than just a job. Not everyone is cut out for serving their country.
I agree.
Not all can even get pass boot camp. Especially the air force which has the easiest boot camp training than the other branch of service.
The sad thing is... the people that ended up on the DOS rollback are the ppl I thought the Air Force would let stay in nd the ppl that should have been on it wasn't. The Air Force messed up big time on that but I'm glad you found something better! Best wishes..
obviously your smart...your an A.force vet...I went threw a similar situation in the A.force...everything happens for a reason. I use to be a contractor in iraq...your lucky,I swear it's like hitting the lotto ,to get a good paying contractor slot...good luck
Are cdc's hard? I'm really stressed out thinking about it because I'm not a quick learner
They are wanting to put my son I. Cyber security. He made a 95 on his ASVAB and 82 on his practice. He's now in his second week of basics
+CORKY NATURAL CREATIONS Corena Garoutte did you comment that just for someone to praise him? xD
+OG Qreamy it goes along with what he was talking about. Of course I didn't. That's just silly.
I think if worked out better for you man. I get out of the AF in 3 months. It just goes to show the opportunity is out there if you're willing to work for it.
Sounds like you landed on your feet well. Good for you!
Oh snap...they got you with the dereliction of duty. Big hit as a Security Forces troop. You were the rollback "Golden Option", it sucks, but that's how cutthroat the DOS rollback is.
Love the outro music aha !
I literally don't know what you were talking about because the whole thing was unclear.
Can you go AFRES or ANG and still do contracting?
Dude, make videos again. They are so awesome. Just watched all your stuff in one day
Are you using DSL?
Do you think you might ever go into reserves? My dad was an active duty aircraft maintenance officer and after the Cold War when they were doing the force reductions back then he was let off the hook, and about a year and a half later went reserves and finally got back to work. All went well, deployed twice to Iraq and Kuwait, and he retired last year as a LtCol.
I considered it, but I might wait on it seeing as I have until I'm 35 to try and go back. But I was mostly interested in going back active duty if I was gonna go back to the service.
These have to be some of the most illiterate RUclips comments I have ever read. Obviously a lot of prior/current security forces members on here.
What do I gotta do to get into the line of work your into with security forces? Contracting etc. I'm a civililian contemplating signing up with the air force, but I like my civillian liberties. My younger brother is also interested in heading in the security forces direction, so I'm just trying to get as much applicable information on it. Thanks man.
They got this dude here for getting a ticket for not wearing a seat belt hahahaha...
Funny thing is that I got out during that same roll back in 2013. What contract work did you pick up?
That's how it usually goes bro. I know this video is old and I got under that rollback voluntarily tho. I was facing the retention board before enough people wanted to get out voluntarily. I felt like it was my time to go and I just got tired of the Air Force. I was a firefighter tho and it was the best decision I ever made.
Was it hard to get Air Force Fire Protection? How did you go about landing that career?
+bigzachful it wasn't too hard for me to land it because it was one of the choices I had to pick from. Since you know what you want to go in to do. Tell your recruiter that you want to be a firefighter and stand by your word.
Hey man im currently a defender in training right now going to Camp Bullis next week. Can you tell me about what to expect or any tips for the rest of tech school. Halfway done already.
Is Security forces like Military Police?
yes it is they guard the gates and the bases also can go on convoy escorts
Yes sir
pretty much the exact the same training, I was going to go into National Guard as an MP but switched to Air Force and the SF-MP training are basically identical
Hey man, I'm about to take my ASVAB, and head to MEPS and I'm really hoping to get a Security Forces MOS, I was just wondering what my chances were on getting into that field. I got a M 96 A 94 G 95 E 91 on my pre-ASVAB.
You do not need to score that high to get into Security Forces.
With those scores there are honestly much better and more rewarding career opportunities than Security Forces. (Unless your just dead set on being a cop or carrying a weapon.) But yea yea more than qualified for Security Forces is your scoring in the 90's
Thanks for the reply! I'm not like, dead set on Security Forces, It's just my number one. I originally wanted to join the Army to be an Airborne Ranger like my grandfather, but I feel the Air Force is the best way to go as far as a future career. I've got my top ten all figured out and I'd be happy with any of them haha I just want to get in and go at this point!
Ethan White If you really want to do security forces your high asvab scores will allow you to rank up quicker then others with lower scores
Which means less time at the gate yeah? ;)
I feel like I might have known you! I was there at Lackland in SecFor Tech school in fall of 2011. You look familiar and you were there the same time I was.
Glad you found the positive in the wake of the QRFB. I got an Art. 15 back in Korea for underrage drinking, and I was a high speed troop just like you. I'm still in, it's fucked up how the system is, they let the good guys go and keep all the dirtbags. And it's like, damn, you want these people to be the future leaders of the Air Force? I'm not holding any grudges though, I learned from it and continuing to push forward with my career. The only thing that sucks is the UIF hindering me to cross-train into TACP.
Haha cross train if you want.. I was a JTAC for 8 yrs. im sayin though, if you like being around a bunch of PTSD alcoholics be my guest. I hear it all the time from folks. Oh I want to join tacp or cct etc...But what is there to prove? How much you can beat up your body? How many days out of the year you can sleep in a ditch you dug yourself? Sorry for being blunt, but I just have to tell folks. You don't need to be spec ops to be an in shape marksman. I've known some very sharp sf guys who had just as much heart if not more. I was training with weapons long before the military, you don't need Uncle Sam to tell you to do it to be good at going above and beyond. Even though I'm no longer in I still train and I know those who've never been the military who can shoot just as well if not better and also in really great shape as well. I'm not saying you want to join for this reason, but for the majority I'd say if you want to be a killer, become a seal or join force recon. Other than that I'd suggest you learn advanced weapons training on your own time. Plus it helps since you'll be able do train on those weapons that the mil doesn't use on a regular basis.
BTW try NECP it's a nurse commissioning program, it's not to hard to get into. A buddy of mine is now a nurse on a combat search and rescue team, he's just as in shape and Badass as any of the operators. Not to mention with better pay and rank and all the blood and guts you want to see.
I'm kind of stuck between choosing security forces and administrative aptitude.. My main concern is with taking college classes. I feel like SF might not be the way to go if you don't get weekends off and have to work 12 hour shifts but administrative stuff sound boring as shit lol.. Just don't know what to do. Do you think college classes would be manageable as a SF person?
Heres an exercise to help determine whether or not you will do well in security forces: Find an ant on the ground. Attempt to watch and follow the ant for a good 13 hours straight. If you find that youre nodding off and getting bored after a few hours then security forces is not for you and you would likely just wind up getting into big trouble. If at the end of the 13 hours you're like "way to go ant!!! way to goooo!!" then you were born for security forces.
Crashtian lmfao!
No, they wouldn't. If all you care about is having a cake schedule so you can go to school, go anything admin or finance, straight up. Don't be a maintainer or SF because you will have a lot of 12 hr days and that's not including deployments. You won't be able to got to school until you become a 5 level, after that you're golden. Most admin and finance even have "training days" on Fridays which is a clandestine way of saying internally: "well, all our work is caught up by Thursday, so let's just come in on Friday (because we still have to) and just leave early". I was a maintainer (F-15C/D) and still got to go to college though.
Yes, college is manageable as SF (coming from someone who's done it). Will you be able to take a full load of classes? Most likely not. It depends if your schedule that you guys are working and it depends on if you're talking about online classes or not. If you doing online classes then yes. I was able to take 3 classes during my deployment and that was between 14 hour days, going out on missions, volunteering and working out for Raven. You have a lot more time than you think you do when you're off, it's just how you use it. If you're trying to go the brick and mortar route then it would be a little harder because you'd have to physically attend the class which could interfere with your work schedule. I've seen people do it but it's a little harder to manage.
hey just one question, your discharge. it says honorable or dishonorable discharge?
I can't hear sound in this video, why?
I fell asleep on post tons of times. Got caught too. Nothing ever happened to me.
Did you join the national guard before joining the air force? If so, how long did you serve with the national guard? and did you have to retake the asvab before joining the air force?
I am sorry you had to endure this screwy stuff. I went Navy in the 80s and unknowingly got stabbed in the back from an E-5.
So is it easier for things like security forces and military police to become a PMC than things like infantry?
Both are capable of becoming PMC's. I would say an infantry guy with deployments may be more appealing at times depending on what you've done in your career. They like people that have time downrange and a lot of infantry guys have years downrange vs a Security Forces guy that has 6 months to a year. All depends on the position you're applying for. Of course for the really high paying jobs, their #1 picks are seals, rangers, TACP, CCT etc any one of those special guys.
Why did you choose Security Forces when you enlisted?
I think leadership in the Air Force is the worst part about the Air Force in every aspect
What's the AFSC code for contracting?
Do you know anything about going into security forces on a waiver? That's the job i wanted but my recruiter said I can't but people I know in SF tell me different
Got a quick question, what type of job you do now that you are out of the Air Force? I don't understand these contracts you guys are landing
I swear man same shit happened to me. Long story short I was in Air Force ATC School. A buddy of mine and I had a drink to celebrate or upcoming graduations(I was underage at the time). So this other loser gets wasted and is confronted by our MTLS. When asked who he was with he mentioned my buddy and I. They took my bac and found I had enough for ONE beer in me. Since I had been late before they discharged me. Most of my sargents said they had done worse than me and I shouldn't have been discharged but like you said in 2013 they were chopping down the ranks. Bad thing about it till this day that DBA(dirt bag airman) is still in lmao. I felt betrayed by my country man. I was a good troop, I'm completed one of the hardest schools the AF has to offer and I was ready to serve. The bastards didn't care, if only I had your contracts I wouldn't care either lol. Gl fellow airman.
You still broke the rules. if you're under age, don't drink simple as that. Your country didn't betray you.
I was betrayed. One guy stayed in and he had more drinks than I did. I was betrayed, my life was on the line and they kicked me out for one beer because they were downsizing. There is a such thing as morality its not just about the rules.
perfect song for the end. i know dude. i understand.
Can you be in the guard or reserves and get a contracting job? Are there any state side contracting jobs?
A lot of rambling...
If all you heard was rambling that tells me you have no clue or any reason to be here, move on dirt bag.
Go play clash of clans and stfu.
^ you're real tough behind a keyboard...come see me.
better yet, stay right where you are....
+Hakeem Hakim your the one rambling. What are you gonna come kill me bc of a RUclips comment?? With a name like that it wouldn't suprise me these days. Don't be a psycho, your not intimidating at all.
He reminds me of Russell Westbrook...but i am thinking of joining the air force for either safety specialist or security forces
supposed to get out in 8 months if i don't reenlist. how soon out could i apply for a contracting job? how was the transition? is the money good? do you buy your own gear?
How long do u plan to do contracting. Also what helped u prepare for bmt as far as not being shy or nervous and working with others?
Have to do what's good for you. Nice to see A new vlog.
What corp are you contracting for? How did you finally find the one you wanted to go with?
Hey sir do you still have connections/direction to point me towards for contracting?
So how would I get in to contracting?
Whats the dos rollback?.........And what branch did you go to after the USAF?
And i would like to thank you for your Service!!