When using the Fennec, I recommend using the P890 as your secondary, since they both fire the same round, they will share ammo and will therefore give you some extra ammo per life
@@thelittledetailscr7231 I think the point isn't to have a secondary to swap to, just to give you more fennec ammo before you have to swap to a ground weapon if you're poppin off
From personal experience, it's way too easy to run out of ammo when using the Double Tap mod, even more so than the Fennec normally does. I'd recommend running the P890 as your secondary. If you add the 12rnd Mag and Akimbo to it, you get an extra 4 mags for your DT Fennec (72 Reserve vs the normal 24) This extra ammo may let you get away with not running scavenger, which is normally a must-have with the Double Tap Fennec! Great Video as Always!
Flash hiders are really underrated in this game, one that helps with recoil steadiness would be better with this gun imo. They actually provide recoil bonuses, like recoil stabilization that helps with visual recoil and side to side bounce, and/or recoil steadiness that helps with vertical recoil control like the vertical grips. The actual flash hider part is really good too: makes visibility while shooting a lot better and makes the gun more pleasant to shoot because of that, while the muzzle breaks can be pretty harsh with their muzzle flash and general shakiness of the gun and camera
Flash hiders have potential but the atrocious attachment balance and brutaly punishing stat trade-offs just make em unusable sadly. We need a flash hider that only hides flash and is free/super tiny downside.
The vector is my favorite gun. Thank you for taking time to make these gun guides. I can imagine that they take a really long time to make so I hope you are still taking care of yourself
Because of the high rate of fire I think you'd much prefer recoil control over damage range since 1 extra bullet to kill isn't that big of a deal when your rpm is almost 1100
Correct, and I don't feel like any of the barrels are worth using on this gun. The only thing they may give that is nice is bullet velocity but doubt it's enough to be worth the ads speed decrease. Actually most of the guns I've used so far I haven't had a barrel on.
Honestly I think the PDSW is more reliable than the Fennec overall. Only slightly slower than the Fennec in both TTK and movement but the recoil is like half of the Fennec so it's way more forgiving and on average, you'll probably kill quicker with the PDSW.
The most important part about the burst mag is the ability to one burst of both shots are headshots within the provided ranges. It feels like using a shotgun sometimes because you just pull the trigger and people die
The Fennec 45 was the gun I had my best games with the weekend on Shipment. It's just so snappy and it's ttk seemed to be the most consistently fast. Everything else was pretty indicernable with a crazy outlier being the Raall MG with the canted laser sight. A little bit of play adjustment and if you got in my way with that thing it was over for you. I had my biggest games with that thing and it was fun as hell. Also fun was the Bryson 800 and Deagle after grinding all auto weapons.
Thanks so much man ! Your dedication and patience towards those videos are simply outstanding ! Big shoot out to you ... The back end work must be draining and probably very underrated .. Been following you since WII and pretty much not missing one since ! Hats off man and huge thanks for what you are doing for the community !
I used the Double Tap attachment. It's great for flanking/ninja stealth build. I would add Scavenger or Munitions Box. I had fun using the Double Tap, currently for the 1st battle pass in A10 there's a Fennec blueprint called Hacksaw it has the Double Tap attachment
The fennec is very fun, I used the double tap mod when going for longshots. But thought that it kinda sucked at longer ranges and I see why now, it's weird that it gives you a great boost to your ranges but makes it terrible at long range. I feel like it at least should have kept a good headshot multiplyr at range
Once I’m done leveling up all the guns (just have the snipers left to level up), I’ll make my class with this one using double tap. It feels really nice and that 2 round burst goes out incredibly fast and follow up bursts are fast as well.
The Fennec is an amazing gun and possibly the most fun to shoot. I can't count the times I hear "no way" or "whhaaatt the“ from the other killed players. Smokes them. Great videos XA always eager to watch.
I was waiting for you to cover this gun! Thanks for talking about the double tap mod it is bu far my favourite setup in the game but is the magazine small boy oh boy!
I love to turn the fennec into a long boi, especially in warzone. Basically the "Hacksaw" blueprint but with the 45 round mag. Not rly an smg anymore, but damn it looks good and feels good (apart from the horrible ads speed).
I just wish they would make the body of the gun, the part ahead of the trigger, as thick as the vector actually is. That’s where the mechanical magic of the vector lies. The counter weight that mitigates most of the recoil as it cycles through rounds after each shot.
@@luisrosario3781 see the thing is, back in MW2019, Infinity Ward was approached by KRISS (the manufacturer of said, Vector) and allowed them to use the model and official name for the gun, completely free of charge IW declined. Why? They had already made the model and weren't going back
@@Flour-4 Hmmm... Interesting. I just found it strange that a huge bulk of the weapons in MW2 (2022) don't have their respective names, barring the M4, M16, and a few others that I'm forgetting. It's interesting that you mentioned that because the Vector made several appearances before MW (2019) under its respective name, such as the OG MW2, BO2, and Ghosts.
@@luisrosario3781 in MW2 many weapons were given fake names due tol lawsuit concerns Recently a lawsuit regarding real firearms in video games "promoting" the use and exposure of guns to younger audiences caused Remington (I'm sure you've heard of them at some point), to go bankrupt, resulting in many firearms manufacturers withdrawing their rights in mainstream titles such as CoD It's a weird case and the reasoning behind most weapons being given phony-ass names in MW2, I find it more confusing how the M4, M16 etc got off the hook lol
@@TheXclusiveAce With a full move speed build on the vector (3 ms attachments + double time) I am still getting passed by knife players, perhaps the attachments are lying/bugged? I seem to recall this happening a lot in 2019
I hope you cover the FTAC first in the battle rifle line. I made a very fun and effective build where I built it towards speed (aim down sight speed and sprint to fire speed).
If you pair the no stock with the phase 3 grip, you gain speed and sprint out without harming recoil at all, it’s actually one of the options I use consistently with it
11:01 I see you Ace! I love those flash grenade transitions you throw in there sometimes. The little bits of effort are really impressive to see from someone that works so hard on everything else.
Ok, question: If we modify the bullet velocity of a subsonic gun (we put a longer barrel, or a supressor that increases bullet velocity, or high velocity ammo) will we lose the subsonic benefits (no tracers, enemy skulls not showing)?
I believe Ace tested this and found that you in fact do NOT lose the Subsonic Benefit, no matter what Attachments you put on a gun that's already Subsonic by default. I could be wrong on this, take it with a grain of salt, but iirc, that's the case with all Weapons that are already Subsonic.
It wasn’t mentioned but based on the stats. It appears you can get a 2 shot kill with the Double Tap Mod with headshots. With some math it appears 55ms would be the 2 shot ttk.
Try the Fennec "Hacksaw" blueprint, it's the only SMG build with a "Sniper" pro tune and it really does reach out and touch people much much farther and more accurate than most SMG builds.
Burst-fire smg connoisseur here, Liked the burst mode in mw19, like it even more in this game. I miss the ability to snipe people with it (didn't lose its 4 hit kill potential in mw19 at even countersnipe ranges iirc) but it's a bit more balanced all around now. Doesn't hurt that it's much harder to keep a good ads speed with other builds... that being said I do think that going straight from 4 hits to 8 is overkill. Burst smgs are so niche that they really didn't have to keep it in check any more, the 12 round mag is enough
hey... want to know what runs faster than fenec and knife combined ? make a custom weapon blueprint using already excisting one, use your own parts and tunings, save it, use it on your loadout, now it should say that you are using the "pro -tuned" tunings on your own loadout, go to firing range and the weapon will most likely load in as an invalid weapon and not load and you can move around unarmed, works the best with mp7s myth maker BB, the game permanently unloads you primary tho until you switch loadouts/make it just the base gun just a word of warning
Ace: "I think this gun is underrated. I don't see too many people using it. But all I see is 10 out of 12 people in the lobby running around with gold Fennecs.
Love the double tap mod, deletes people so quick The base recoil pattern looks so different it could be two different guns. Seems to have a higher than usually variance On a side note, I’ve noticed few of the suggested builds have a barrel which is a shame since that was so big in mw2019. The negatives are too punishing
Are you considering doing more attachment breakdowns? For example muzzle attachments and their ads and range properties? With the fennec the question is what range values silencers give versus barrels as the barrels make it quite slow.
The gun is supposed to have almost no recoil at all due to its recoiling mechanism. I expected better vertical climb. Horizontal recoil I can understand
I wish you'd skip over to the Marksman Rifles before the battle rifles. Seems to me like Assault Rifles and Marksman Rifles are kinda the meta right now, so imo they should take priority.
This has been my go to gun for any small to med size map. For Shoothouse, I was destroying people. You do have to have the 45rnd mag though. Its useless otherwise. This is also for aggressive playing. If you like to charge into objectives and run around a map, this is your gun. If you’re a more lay back and hold corners player, stick with assault rifles.
I really hate how the negatives of using an attachment is so large compared to the positives. Makes no sense at all and really makes most attachments in the game unusable.
I run with drum mag, vertical recoil muzzle, then lazer underbarrel, and stock that improve sprint to fire. Use iron sights b/c it fights so close anyways. Fastest gun in the game. Play it like a shotgun.
I think you got some of that math wrong with the TTK of the 2-round burst. In the 8 shot kill range you have the TTK as 310ms. If you have to shoot 4 bursts with 3 delays of 100ms, I figured it would take more than 10ms to shoot 8 bullets
Range fennec: use the burst attachments but replace the muzzle with the ZLR 16.5 barrel. Better range and bullet velocity along with not loosing pretty much any ads time
For some reason it feels like it’s better than the MW2019 version. It felt really good to use but could use some small buffs. The 8 shot kills need to be removed and the headshot multiplier could use a slight buff. The double tap mod also needs that weird last damage drop off fixed so it doesn’t take so many shots
Do we know if the barrels have the same range increases when using the double tap mod? Thinking about the 16.5 barrel plus double tap for doing my plat longshots...
The reason its Recoil is so low is cause, the real life gun; The Vector, has an inbuilt recoil control system. They tried to mimic that system but also add some recoil to keep it fair
They really need to nerf the cons of accessories. How can a tiny optic and a tiny muzzle bring the ADS speed from 175 ms to 215 ms? Not to mention there are 2 more accessories helping with ADS speed in that build, it's just nonsense
I would like to see warzone build vs multiplayer builds in the future.. Also, everyone is using this gun in Warzone.. Not so much in multiplayer, but I take that with a grain of salt, since it seems like everyone just leveling up or doing camo grinds in MW2.
@@TheXclusiveAce sounds good and thanks for the quick reply.. I didn't know you didn't like it... I appreciate the level of detail that you put in your videos. Much appreciated!
PLEASE TEST BOMBSQUAD I’m getting so many situations where explosives can 1 shot me especially the launchers I keep getting killed by 1 rocket At full health and it’s not a direct impact
kinda weird how it does same damage as 5.56, the ARs damage profile are kinda balanced with the bullet size(.308 does massive damage compare to 5.56/5.45). I know balancing is a thing to create diversity between ARs and Smgs, but why dont they just apply the same thing they did to assault rifles that already using that damage profile (no recoil 4 shots and more recoil 3 shots). Give vector a 3 shots cus .45 acp compare to mp5 and the rest of smgs being 9mm and have them no recoil. This would play out like how siege does their smg vs ARs, no recoil laser beams that does less damage but if aim head or upper torso then they would compete ARs even at medium to long range thanks to no recoil. BUT THEN ARS would need to have more recoil to give smg a reason to use which would be obvious cus so many other video games do this. However, this is cod where everyone just wanna throw their brain out the window and invest zero effort into mechanical skill to compensate for recoil which isnt fun and everyone with skill issue would complain about it. Also to point out that this damage profile system might work, so-14 might need a nerf cus its the only gun with .308 damage profile(44 damage) with over 700 rpm fire rate(750-790 rpm)->0.4 ms ttk for 3 plates in warzone IF you can control it(im talking controller, mnk can stop rambling about how the game have no recoil while they control it with their entire arm on a mouse)
As someone who legit leveld up all the weapons and camos.. I despised the fennec outside of shipment.. its just not it. I'm level 250 and maintain a 1.0 K/D with the ridiculously OP SBMM .. anyways, cool vid, as always, individual results may vary.
Love/hate the double tap mod. Up close is cool, but anything past 30m requires absolutely perfect aim while on the move or you'll get pasted! Plus, the slow bullet velocity doesn't help at more medium ranges where an opponent is running fast. Also, chews through that 12-round mag pretty quickly and then you're reloading yet again (and, as we saw, the reload speed isn't the best).
Did they change something about player HP and damage numbers or something? None of the numbers make sense to me, compared to what's shown in the stats page in the actual game. Or am I missing an important attachment that changes all of those numbers? Or is the gun just very nerfed compared to what it used to be?
Fennec is OP in the right hands. Beats all other guns. This will probably be banned in CDL, it's too good rn. If you can consistently land your shots you won't lose. I'm a objective menace in hardpoint and HQ running this and lockwood shotgun.
I like the idea of the Double Tap Mod, but I honestly don't understand what the person who determined that damage dropoff at 38m was thinking. This mod seems like an obvious choice for getting longshots, but it basically becomes useless around the distance needed for longshots. So frustratingly stupid!
Annoying that the suppressors affect your ADS so much more than the damn drum mag. There's barely any downside to being able to spray almost twice as long, but if you dare to use a suppressed barrel you get totally screwed. What a load. Also test the tracer thing. I'm not entirely sure they actually do as they say. On a similar note, can you go back to test scope glint? I notice in ranges where a medium glint should just not appear being present in killcams when I die aiming at someone past 70 meters...
This gun feels like it kills so slow simply because of its bullet velocity so when i grinded gold I exclusively built for bullet velocity and walk speed, I got a usable build but aim down was somewhere near 500ms which really isn't bad when your playing cautious and always ads
Bit of a shame that the bread & butter of this gun's real life counterpart is its recoil reduction system, and that's basically nonexistent in this game. Black Ops 2 actually did this gun more justice in that regard.
I was struggling with this gun and I stopped upgrading it at level 20. Can't quite put my finger on the issue but I was having way more fun with the G3
Your setup isn’t to the best of the fennec’s abilities.. please do a recoil and ads test with the same laser,same stock,same magazine, fennec rubber grip, cronen grooveshot grip. Most accurate and fastest time to kill fennec out.
I really want to like this gun but I just cant. I think its that I find its looks (esp. rear grip area) and sound weird. The recoil also just feels wonky.
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When using the Fennec, I recommend using the P890 as your secondary, since they both fire the same round, they will share ammo and will therefore give you some extra ammo per life
This is good to know
Wouldn't you want to avoid using them together since they pull from the same ammo pool? So, if you run out with one, you run out with the other?
@@thelittledetailscr7231 that’s only if your gonna be using both weapons frequently
@@thelittledetailscr7231how often are you gonna be using the secondary anyways? Just treat it as an additional ammo reserve. Lol
@@thelittledetailscr7231 I think the point isn't to have a secondary to swap to, just to give you more fennec ammo before you have to swap to a ground weapon if you're poppin off
From personal experience, it's way too easy to run out of ammo when using the Double Tap mod, even more so than the Fennec normally does. I'd recommend running the P890 as your secondary. If you add the 12rnd Mag and Akimbo to it, you get an extra 4 mags for your DT Fennec (72 Reserve vs the normal 24) This extra ammo may let you get away with not running scavenger, which is normally a must-have with the Double Tap Fennec! Great Video as Always!
Man, the akimbo P890s are absolute monsters. They are just ridiclous in CQC
@@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyer He's saying run Akimbo to have the extra ammo for the Fennec.
@@CentrifuzeI mean still he’s not wrong
Ah yes, the KRISS Vector, Faster SMG in any Game there is, along with some other Fast SMGs like Skorpion EVO, Mac10, and maybe some other SMG
I really feel like the double tap mod (in both mw-‘19 and mw2-‘22) is more for SnD than respawn. Just my opinion
Adding those vertical lines to the recoil plots is a nice touch, thanks for that
It’s crazy to me Ace hasn’t hit the 1mil mark yet, this is my favorite CoD RUclipsr 🥰
I know right. No one puts in quite the effort that he does
@@DS3Enjoyer TrueGameData?
I can explain why
@@bobdarrick2628 Why
Stats are a niche subject that most players aren't really interested in.
Flash hiders are really underrated in this game, one that helps with recoil steadiness would be better with this gun imo. They actually provide recoil bonuses, like recoil stabilization that helps with visual recoil and side to side bounce, and/or recoil steadiness that helps with vertical recoil control like the vertical grips. The actual flash hider part is really good too: makes visibility while shooting a lot better and makes the gun more pleasant to shoot because of that, while the muzzle breaks can be pretty harsh with their muzzle flash and general shakiness of the gun and camera
Flash hiders have potential but the atrocious attachment balance and brutaly punishing stat trade-offs just make em unusable sadly. We need a flash hider that only hides flash and is free/super tiny downside.
Does anyone know what the ADS penalty on flash hiders are, though?
@Willow i bet its like 60ms 😂
Honestly I'm kinda confused why Ace puts a muzzle break on every loadout. They don't really seem to do enough to warrant the hit to ADS speed.
@@Scroolewse Casual console players need more help controlling recoil
I think it would be nice to know how the barrels and magazines impact movement speed just as you did in mw2019 gun guide. Keep up the great work!
The vector is my favorite gun. Thank you for taking time to make these gun guides. I can imagine that they take a really long time to make so I hope you are still taking care of yourself
I think this Fennec really does the mighty Vector dirty especially with its rear grip and it also sounds weird as hell
Going to the range to drop some freedom seeds with mine today. It really is a great firearm.
I maxed this last night. It was a lot better than I thought it would be.
Because of the high rate of fire I think you'd much prefer recoil control over damage range since 1 extra bullet to kill isn't that big of a deal when your rpm is almost 1100
Correct, and I don't feel like any of the barrels are worth using on this gun. The only thing they may give that is nice is bullet velocity but doubt it's enough to be worth the ads speed decrease. Actually most of the guns I've used so far I haven't had a barrel on.
Could say the same thing abt missing 1 or 2 shots. Recoil is low for me
@@tatri292 Well the 8.5 inch might be worth it for the slight boost to ADS speed with a minimal hit to recoil.
I mean, technically the gun is based on the KRISS vector so the recoil should be better than you'd expect
Honestly I think the PDSW is more reliable than the Fennec overall. Only slightly slower than the Fennec in both TTK and movement but the recoil is like half of the Fennec so it's way more forgiving and on average, you'll probably kill quicker with the PDSW.
The most important part about the burst mag is the ability to one burst of both shots are headshots within the provided ranges. It feels like using a shotgun sometimes because you just pull the trigger and people die
The Fennec 45 was the gun I had my best games with the weekend on Shipment. It's just so snappy and it's ttk seemed to be the most consistently fast.
Everything else was pretty indicernable with a crazy outlier being the Raall MG with the canted laser sight. A little bit of play adjustment and if you got in my way with that thing it was over for you. I had my biggest games with that thing and it was fun as hell.
Also fun was the Bryson 800 and Deagle after grinding all auto weapons.
Thanks so much man ! Your dedication and patience towards those videos are simply outstanding ! Big shoot out to you ... The back end work must be draining and probably very underrated ..
Been following you since WII and pretty much not missing one since ! Hats off man and huge thanks for what you are doing for the community !
I used the Double Tap attachment. It's great for flanking/ninja stealth build. I would add Scavenger or Munitions Box. I had fun using the Double Tap, currently for the 1st battle pass in A10 there's a Fennec blueprint called Hacksaw it has the Double Tap attachment
Nice, Battle Rifles next, that's what I've been waiting for
The fennec is very fun, I used the double tap mod when going for longshots. But thought that it kinda sucked at longer ranges and I see why now, it's weird that it gives you a great boost to your ranges but makes it terrible at long range. I feel like it at least should have kept a good headshot multiplyr at range
the fennec and lachman sub has my favorite sounds of gunfire in this game
Will say I was hoping to see a hip fire build for this though, just cause it's so fast with everything. Thank you for all the other info on it!
Once I’m done leveling up all the guns (just have the snipers left to level up), I’ll make my class with this one using double tap. It feels really nice and that 2 round burst goes out incredibly fast and follow up bursts are fast as well.
the TTK on this thing up-close is crazy!
If you hit your headshots then. It shreds even more.
This thing shreds up close
The Fennec is an amazing gun and possibly the most fun to shoot. I can't count the times I hear "no way" or "whhaaatt the“ from the other killed players. Smokes them. Great videos XA always eager to watch.
I was waiting for you to cover this gun! Thanks for talking about the double tap mod it is bu far my favourite setup in the game but is the magazine small boy oh boy!
I love to turn the fennec into a long boi, especially in warzone. Basically the "Hacksaw" blueprint but with the 45 round mag. Not rly an smg anymore, but damn it looks good and feels good (apart from the horrible ads speed).
I just wish they would make the body of the gun, the part ahead of the trigger, as thick as the vector actually is. That’s where the mechanical magic of the vector lies. The counter weight that mitigates most of the recoil as it cycles through rounds after each shot.
I do agree that they should've made the receiver thicker, but I do quite like the thinner, sleeker look, even if it makes NO FRIGGIN SENSE-
Maybe certain trademarks or copyright reasons? Maybe the same reason that the name "Fennec 45" is used in place of "Vector"?
@@luisrosario3781 see the thing is, back in MW2019, Infinity Ward was approached by KRISS (the manufacturer of said, Vector) and allowed them to use the model and official name for the gun, completely free of charge
IW declined. Why? They had already made the model and weren't going back
@@Flour-4 Hmmm... Interesting. I just found it strange that a huge bulk of the weapons in MW2 (2022) don't have their respective names, barring the M4, M16, and a few others that I'm forgetting.
It's interesting that you mentioned that because the Vector made several appearances before MW (2019) under its respective name, such as the OG MW2, BO2, and Ghosts.
@@luisrosario3781 in MW2 many weapons were given fake names due tol lawsuit concerns
Recently a lawsuit regarding real firearms in video games "promoting" the use and exposure of guns to younger audiences caused Remington (I'm sure you've heard of them at some point), to go bankrupt, resulting in many firearms manufacturers withdrawing their rights in mainstream titles such as CoD
It's a weird case and the reasoning behind most weapons being given phony-ass names in MW2, I find it more confusing how the M4, M16 etc got off the hook lol
is move speed calculated by primary + secondary is does it only matter what you are actively holding?
Gun in hand is all that matters
@@TheXclusiveAce With a full move speed build on the vector (3 ms attachments + double time) I am still getting passed by knife players, perhaps the attachments are lying/bugged? I seem to recall this happening a lot in 2019
@@deecolon3236 The knife is faster in Tac Sprint but not regular sprint unless they buffed the knife with the S1 Reloaded update.
I hope you cover the FTAC first in the battle rifle line. I made a very fun and effective build where I built it towards speed (aim down sight speed and sprint to fire speed).
If you pair the no stock with the phase 3 grip, you gain speed and sprint out without harming recoil at all, it’s actually one of the options I use consistently with it
Op.
No, that stock destroys your recoil and there's no compensating for it
@@highermedia no it doesn’t you must be bad
It definitely affects your recoil. Depends what range you want to hit at
@@Chiz1992 if you can’t hit from thirty meters w the no stock you’re bad the gun is literally just all straight recoil
11:01 I see you Ace! I love those flash grenade transitions you throw in there sometimes. The little bits of effort are really impressive to see from someone that works so hard on everything else.
Ok, question: If we modify the bullet velocity of a subsonic gun (we put a longer barrel, or a supressor that increases bullet velocity, or high velocity ammo) will we lose the subsonic benefits (no tracers, enemy skulls not showing)?
I believe Ace tested this and found that you in fact do NOT lose the Subsonic Benefit, no matter what Attachments you put on a gun that's already Subsonic by default. I could be wrong on this, take it with a grain of salt, but iirc, that's the case with all Weapons that are already Subsonic.
makes 0 sense that the fennec is faster than the knife for sprinting these devs are mentally unstable
Thanks! Been waiting for this.
Love this gun!!! Straight up bullet hose. Recoil reduction attachments make it spit hate real steady.
this was by far my least favourite SMG to rank up weirdly enough, was basically unusable with the base mag
It wasn’t mentioned but based on the stats. It appears you can get a 2 shot kill with the Double Tap Mod with headshots. With some math it appears 55ms would be the 2 shot ttk.
It can be with 1 headshot and an upper torso shot aswell. Suprised it wasn’t mentioned.
Try the Fennec "Hacksaw" blueprint, it's the only SMG build with a "Sniper" pro tune and it really does reach out and touch people much much farther and more accurate than most SMG builds.
Great Content!. It would be cool if you had a summary video. The SMG with the best range, each movement, etc.
Thx Ace. Love the fennec.
Swap the muzzle attachment for the long barrel. ADS in the low 300’s, 4 shot kill at 50m.
Burst-fire smg connoisseur here, Liked the burst mode in mw19, like it even more in this game. I miss the ability to snipe people with it (didn't lose its 4 hit kill potential in mw19 at even countersnipe ranges iirc) but it's a bit more balanced all around now. Doesn't hurt that it's much harder to keep a good ads speed with other builds... that being said I do think that going straight from 4 hits to 8 is overkill. Burst smgs are so niche that they really didn't have to keep it in check any more, the 12 round mag is enough
Can't wait till you cover the taq M, people been sleeping on it
hey... want to know what runs faster than fenec and knife combined ? make a custom weapon blueprint using already excisting one, use your own parts and tunings, save it, use it on your loadout, now it should say that you are using the "pro -tuned" tunings on your own loadout, go to firing range and the weapon will most likely load in as an invalid weapon and not load and you can move around unarmed, works the best with mp7s myth maker BB, the game permanently unloads you primary tho until you switch loadouts/make it just the base gun just a word of warning
The ADS penalties are so ridiculous in this game - they clearly don’t want people really moving around/playing aggressively
i mean, if you're sprinting around that much, should be easy to close that distance, so you don't need the range
yet it's still doable.
Honestly not had a problem with this at all, if anything I'm able to play more aggressively in this COD
@lunchpin I agree I really like the changes they've made to this game alot. I definitely can afford to be more aggressive then in MW2019
They just don't want people running around with Lazer accurate weapons with insane ads...
Ace: "I think this gun is underrated. I don't see too many people using it.
But all I see is 10 out of 12 people in the lobby running around with gold Fennecs.
I ALWAYS PULLED VECTOR VS VAL/MP5/M4 SWEATY BOYS ON MW2019
I WAS HOPING PEOPLE STILL HATED IT THIS YEAR LOL
The 2 shot burst available on this gives me hope we might get the AN-94 at some point.
Love the double tap mod, deletes people so quick
The base recoil pattern looks so different it could be two different guns. Seems to have a higher than usually variance
On a side note, I’ve noticed few of the suggested builds have a barrel which is a shame since that was so big in mw2019. The negatives are too punishing
Just wanted to say I finally canceled my reload animation ! I only had to throw 2 decoy grenades and a proximity mine to do it !
Are you considering doing more attachment breakdowns? For example muzzle attachments and their ads and range properties? With the fennec the question is what range values silencers give versus barrels as the barrels make it quite slow.
The vector in Tarkov is really good. UMP is pretty awesome as well. We finally get the Aug this next wipe! And the honey Badger :)
The gun is supposed to have almost no recoil at all due to its recoiling mechanism.
I expected better vertical climb. Horizontal recoil I can understand
I used the double tap for long shots in Tier 1
I wish you'd skip over to the Marksman Rifles before the battle rifles. Seems to me like Assault Rifles and Marksman Rifles are kinda the meta right now, so imo they should take priority.
This has been my go to gun for any small to med size map. For Shoothouse, I was destroying people. You do have to have the 45rnd mag though. Its useless otherwise. This is also for aggressive playing. If you like to charge into objectives and run around a map, this is your gun. If you’re a more lay back and hold corners player, stick with assault rifles.
Best fire rate in the game
Best ttk in the game
Best sprint speed in the game
Meanwhile, the M16
It makes me so happy that the vector is dominant in this game, always used this gun against ump users back on the og MW2
Is there currently an SMG in MW2 that is based on the UMP?
@Noobsmasher69 well they kind of did in MW 2019 but it wasn't based on the actual UMP and it was not really good
@@fuzzynuttz5092 that thing is such a pos in real life
Crutch SMG.
Uzi was banned in pro/esport in MW2, now its the Vector
I would be interested to see your weapon section of the stats page sir! Just curious on favorite guns, headshots, stuff like that.
If you look at how that gun operates IRL you'll understand the lack of recoil. Pretty cool design
I really hate how the negatives of using an attachment is so large compared to the positives. Makes no sense at all and really makes most attachments in the game unusable.
I run with drum mag, vertical recoil muzzle, then lazer underbarrel, and stock that improve sprint to fire. Use iron sights b/c it fights so close anyways. Fastest gun in the game. Play it like a shotgun.
Best cod RUclipsr. No waffle or bs …. Or kid talk. Hard facts.
I'd like to see what the ranges are after the longest barrel and suppressor and double tap mod lol.
I used this gun in shipment and dropped my highest kill game of 142
The Fennec when tuned for speed, is literally crazy on Shipment. Can easily drop 75+ kills every game
Instead of the 45 round mag I take a p890 with a fast draw grip to help finish off any gunfights and ensure I’m safe before I reload
I think you got some of that math wrong with the TTK of the 2-round burst. In the 8 shot kill range you have the TTK as 310ms. If you have to shoot 4 bursts with 3 delays of 100ms, I figured it would take more than 10ms to shoot 8 bullets
Range fennec: use the burst attachments but replace the muzzle with the ZLR 16.5 barrel. Better range and bullet velocity along with not loosing pretty much any ads time
For some reason it feels like it’s better than the MW2019 version. It felt really good to use but could use some small buffs. The 8 shot kills need to be removed and the headshot multiplier could use a slight buff. The double tap mod also needs that weird last damage drop off fixed so it doesn’t take so many shots
Do we know if the barrels have the same range increases when using the double tap mod? Thinking about the 16.5 barrel plus double tap for doing my plat longshots...
I WISH YOU WOULDNT HAVE SPOKE ON THE SPEED LMAOO
THAT NERF IS MOST DEFINITELY COMING LMAOO
I HOPE IT DOESNT BECOME OVER POPULAR AND STAYS UNDERRATED
The reason its Recoil is so low is cause, the real life gun; The Vector, has an inbuilt recoil control system. They tried to mimic that system but also add some recoil to keep it fair
They really need to nerf the cons of accessories. How can a tiny optic and a tiny muzzle bring the ADS speed from 175 ms to 215 ms? Not to mention there are 2 more accessories helping with ADS speed in that build, it's just nonsense
In real life, it has a unique recoil system that makes it to where there is almost no recoil.
I would like to see warzone build vs multiplayer builds in the future.. Also, everyone is using this gun in Warzone.. Not so much in multiplayer, but I take that with a grain of salt, since it seems like everyone just leveling up or doing camo grinds in MW2.
I won't be covering WZ at all since I have no interest in ever playing it
@@TheXclusiveAce sounds good and thanks for the quick reply.. I didn't know you didn't like it... I appreciate the level of detail that you put in your videos. Much appreciated!
Are you talking about sprint or tac sprint because TGD has the combat knife as the fastest tac sprint in the game
Sprint
I think the two major reasons mire people don’t use them is the fact that our operators only carry two spare clips and that the reload that’s forever.
Can you do like a wrap up for every weapon category
Love the gun guide series but for some reason the stats don't match what I experience in game
Surprised he didn't give a hip fire build, I've been having a lot of fun using like that, surprisingly accurate
I do the same. Hip fire high speed build is hilarious
Gun is a laser, even with the stock less mod 1000 rpm assault rifle..
PLEASE TEST BOMBSQUAD I’m getting so many situations where explosives can 1 shot me especially the launchers I keep getting killed by 1 rocket At full health and it’s not a direct impact
kinda weird how it does same damage as 5.56, the ARs damage profile are kinda balanced with the bullet size(.308 does massive damage compare to 5.56/5.45). I know balancing is a thing to create diversity between ARs and Smgs, but why dont they just apply the same thing they did to assault rifles that already using that damage profile (no recoil 4 shots and more recoil 3 shots). Give vector a 3 shots cus .45 acp compare to mp5 and the rest of smgs being 9mm and have them no recoil. This would play out like how siege does their smg vs ARs, no recoil laser beams that does less damage but if aim head or upper torso then they would compete ARs even at medium to long range thanks to no recoil. BUT THEN ARS would need to have more recoil to give smg a reason to use which would be obvious cus so many other video games do this. However, this is cod where everyone just wanna throw their brain out the window and invest zero effort into mechanical skill to compensate for recoil which isnt fun and everyone with skill issue would complain about it.
Also to point out that this damage profile system might work, so-14 might need a nerf cus its the only gun with .308 damage profile(44 damage) with over 700 rpm fire rate(750-790 rpm)->0.4 ms ttk for 3 plates in warzone IF you can control it(im talking controller, mnk can stop rambling about how the game have no recoil while they control it with their entire arm on a mouse)
As someone who legit leveld up all the weapons and camos.. I despised the fennec outside of shipment.. its just not it. I'm level 250 and maintain a 1.0 K/D with the ridiculously OP SBMM .. anyways, cool vid, as always, individual results may vary.
Love/hate the double tap mod. Up close is cool, but anything past 30m requires absolutely perfect aim while on the move or you'll get pasted! Plus, the slow bullet velocity doesn't help at more medium ranges where an opponent is running fast. Also, chews through that 12-round mag pretty quickly and then you're reloading yet again (and, as we saw, the reload speed isn't the best).
Glad they didnt tank the handling of this gun for no reason at all like in mw2019
I’ve got my Kriss Vector next to me and it’s very annoying they don’t even use the correct weapon model
Did they change something about player HP and damage numbers or something? None of the numbers make sense to me, compared to what's shown in the stats page in the actual game. Or am I missing an important attachment that changes all of those numbers? Or is the gun just very nerfed compared to what it used to be?
Fennec is OP in the right hands. Beats all other guns. This will probably be banned in CDL, it's too good rn. If you can consistently land your shots you won't lose. I'm a objective menace in hardpoint and HQ running this and lockwood shotgun.
I like the idea of the Double Tap Mod, but I honestly don't understand what the person who determined that damage dropoff at 38m was thinking. This mod seems like an obvious choice for getting longshots, but it basically becomes useless around the distance needed for longshots. So frustratingly stupid!
This gun is GOD TIER in Warzone Solos. *Instantly* melts people in close quarters. Definitely need the drum mag tho.
I run double tap , 16.5" barrel , 7mw ,wooden stock and slimline dotsight 52 metres of range. Easy longshots
Will you look at pistols next?
Annoying that the suppressors affect your ADS so much more than the damn drum mag. There's barely any downside to being able to spray almost twice as long, but if you dare to use a suppressed barrel you get totally screwed. What a load.
Also test the tracer thing. I'm not entirely sure they actually do as they say.
On a similar note, can you go back to test scope glint? I notice in ranges where a medium glint should just not appear being present in killcams when I die aiming at someone past 70 meters...
Why isn't the 2tap just a weapon variant... That would make way more sense and give it a few different mag options too.
This gun feels like it kills so slow simply because of its bullet velocity so when i grinded gold I exclusively built for bullet velocity and walk speed, I got a usable build but aim down was somewhere near 500ms which really isn't bad when your playing cautious and always ads
On the real, who thought giving the ads barrels only -8 Ms of ads time while giving the others + 150 and 175 Ms ads made any sense at all
Bit of a shame that the bread & butter of this gun's real life counterpart is its recoil reduction system, and that's basically nonexistent in this game.
Black Ops 2 actually did this gun more justice in that regard.
I was struggling with this gun and I stopped upgrading it at level 20. Can't quite put my finger on the issue but I was having way more fun with the G3
Your setup isn’t to the best of the fennec’s abilities.. please do a recoil and ads test with the same laser,same stock,same magazine, fennec rubber grip, cronen grooveshot grip. Most accurate and fastest time to kill fennec out.
Yo Ace! Time for you to put out a 'Best Sniper" video. So you can put these other poser videos in their place.
I really want to like this gun but I just cant. I think its that I find its looks (esp. rear grip area) and sound weird. The recoil also just feels wonky.