@@plrndl ahem, not in a good mood, so here goes, Ur orchestra hardly has any music on their repertoire which they themselves composed bands of a kind that are discussed in this video PLAY THEIR OWN SONGS
@@cl759 I hate to upset you further, but the topic of discussion is "bands with no original members left in them", not "bands who play their own compositions".
Some bands have their original members leave very early. When Iron Maiden released their debut in 1980, Steve Harris was already the only original member. If Steve Harris was to leave or die, technically Iron Maiden would have no orignal members, but you'd still have members like Adrian Smith, Dave Murray and Bruce Dickinson who are still important to the band
The Moody Blues and Fleetwood Mac are other notable examples of this. The lineups for which they're most famous were actually complete overhauls of their original lineups.
That's what exactly happened to YES, after Chris passed away (Also a bassist like Steve) None of the original members are left, but you can't think of YES today without them.
Neco McBain been there a long time. They brought in Gandrick Gears as the second guitar player for 'Afraid of the Dark'. Then he never left and became the third guitar player.
@@p.d.l7023 The album is Fear Of The Dark,Janick Gers is how you spell it and Nicko McBain (McBrain as they called him when he joined on the Piece Of Mind album). Personally I prefer Clive Burr, the drummer on the first three albums. Maybe you were just screwing with the names on purpose?!?
@@MrBones-lw2bf, Kiss was a phenomenal band in the mid 70s. They sold out in the late 70s and then went way downhill after Ace Frehley left in 1982. Since then, Gene Simmons has made it way too obvious that he is 100% about money.
@@StarfieldRailway Gene Simmons is the Yoko Ono of KISS... HOWEVER, they STILL have half of their original lineup, and frankly, EVERY SINGLE guitar player they had was better than Frehley. Same with drummers. Eric Carr and Vinnie Vincent are legendary, rest are at least competent. But KISS is Kiss because of voices and costumes, the whole show, I would not have accepted them having just one vocalist, or half-assing the stage production.
Yeah, I saw something where Cheap Trick was opening for Foreigner and they had a clause in their contract that said if Mick Jones wasn't performing Cheap Trick would headline and Foreigner would open because Cheap Trick didn't want to open for a cover band.
I saw Foreigner several years ago. Right after the concert started I texted a friend and said “Unless Mick Jones is wearing a big blond curly wig, he isn’t on stage.” Sure enough, it was a fill in.
I wouldn't count Priest since they started as Freight (Ian Hill being a founding member and still with Priest) and changed their name because Judas Priest was more well-known when they took Al Atkins into the fold. So that's a case of a band changing their name (a similar thing happened to Scorpions; they broke up after Lonesome Crow released, so Rudy Schenker and Klaus Meine joined Uli Roth, Francis Buchholtz, and Jürgen Rosenthal in Dawn Road, and then Dawn Road changed their name to Scorpions). So yeah, Priest still has Ian Hill as a remaining founding member. *HOWEVER* I would definitely include Stratovarius in this...their modern lineup of Jens Johannson, Timo Kotipelto, Lauri Porra, Matthias Kupiainen, and Rolf Pilve, the "almost classic" lineup of Timo Tolkki, Jari Kainulainen, Tuomo Lassila, and Antti Ikonen, and the original lineup of Tuomo Lassila, Staffan Stralman, John Viherva, and Mika Ervaskari. And this is a band that's been consistently touring and recording since the mid-80s (15 studio albums and counting, and their newer material is possibly their best).
Ha! Not a very good example there Kylie! You're missing the whole point of the video and information shared. Why do people like you always get so butt-hurt if info in someone else's video don't line-up 100% with your WRONG opinions???
Honestly, they would have probably had more success with Freight. It's still a cool, heavy name, but ambiguous enough to let the music speak for itself instead of being overlooked simply on the band name alone.
@@waltciii3 Yup some of the really old people first joined before they died. They don't make any new material of course. But you can't exactly say it's 100 percent a tribute band when a few of the guys were hired by the men themselves.
Bands go through members all the time. There needs to be a distinction made between original band and classic era band. In rare cases, this may be the same.
People do. For example, the Mark 2 lineup of Deep Purple is considered classic. I mean their first record had them a mount Rushmore-like cover. @@omega1231 yup, nothing left of Judas Priest by the time they started recording. Iron Maiden was almost a completely different band by Soundhouse Tapes (their DEMO).
Lynyrd Skynyrd has Gary Rossington as the Last Surviving member. The band was originally called "The 1%" and "My Back Yard". The original line-up was; Ronnie Van Zandt- Vocals Allen Collins & Gary Rossington- Guitar Larry Junstrum- Bass Bob Burns- Drums The only ones alive since The Plane Crash on October 20, 1977 are Gary Rossington, Artymus Pyle and Leslie Hawkins.
I just saw them in Knoxville and Gary Rossington was not with them there. They simply announced that he was at his home in Atlanta with his wife. No further explanation. So none of the original members were there, but they are still Skynyrd!
The original members of The Little River Band reformed for a tour but were prevented from using their own name by the current LRB, who are really just a tribute show.
Before watching this I thought what a shame Quiet Riot won't even be included. I was pleasantly surprised as they are my second favorite band of all time the first is kiss without the impersonators. Quiet Riot was the first band featured in this video, that's awesome thank you!!
Oh boy.....this is what gets you excited? Because QR were in the video and you "got happy" ??? Thanks for telling us all about your SECOND fav band of all time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha!!!!!
The American metal band Riot, after founding guitarist Mark Reale passed away, no original member was left. They are still active today. They also have had many members come and go since there mid 70's inception.
How about Renaissance, formed by Keith Relf and his sister after the breakup of the Yardbirds. They released two albums before leaving. All the original members shuffled out during the recording of the third record and by the fourth, the "classic lineup" of Michael Dunford, Annie Haslam, Terry Sullivan, Jon Camp and John Tout. Or The Grass Roots. They were originally not even a band, but a nome de plume for songwriter PF Sloan. After recording of Where Were You When I Needed You started to take off they hired a group called "The Bedouins" to become The Grass Roots. They recorded the remainder of the debut album and then broke up. Decca then hired Rob Grill and company to become the new Grass Roots from the second album on. Of course the guitarist in this lineup, Creed Bratton is famous from his work on The Office. The group disbanded in the late 70's, but Grill resurrected the name in the 80's to tour the oldies circuit. After his death, his estate allowed those musicians to continue touring under that name, as some had been with him for 20 years by that time. I saw that The Drifters and the Platters were coming to Spartanburg. Both have names owned by management and haven't had any original members since the early 60's for the Drifters and since whenever the last remaining original member of the Platters died. Note, both groups date to the early to mid fifties.
You can watch videos of the original Renaissance before the classic lineup; similar style but a very different sound of the short time later Haslam/Dunford/Camp/Tout/Sullivan band. Several of the original members reformed years later and named their band Illusion. I believe this was after Relf's death.
Another band that has zero original members and keeps rolling along as a style and a name is southern fried rock band Molly Hatchet who had a break-out album with "Flirtin' With Disaster" being a monster hit. "Satisfied Man" got a lot of radio play, as well.
Others, possibly? The Platters, The Coasters, Bay City Rollers, Menudo, Jefferson Airplane/Starship, Benny Goodman band, Paul Whitman Orchestra,Glen Miller band
I can't believe they included Heart on this list. The band didn't record their first album until the mid 1970's, with Ann and Nancy Wilson. That's what you go by. Without a recording contract and album release, they are just another "basement band," nobody will ever hear of. Before, and unless that happens, it doesn't matter who was in it...
If that weren't enough, didn't he say the band even had a different name, they joined and the changed it to Heart? How is that the same band? So yes, they are original members.
Another 70s band, journey, could have still been going strong if Steve Perry hadn't gotten the urge to go solo..if they had kept that 1979 lineup intact.... GEEZZ!
The worst musical documentaries ever are the ones where they get no music clearance. But the worst of the worst are those that play music in the background that bears absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to the music they are talking about.
Several years ago I saw Thin Lizzy, which had only the drummer, who I believe was classic era but not original. They made no bones about being a tribute band, having hired an "all star" lineup from various hard rock bands.
Not the drummer, but the guitar player. Scott Gorham is the only member left from before Philip's death and, guess what, he wasn't in the original line up. I consider him original though. Lizzy's twin guitar sound was created when he joined.
The term that has been used for this situation (no original members in a band) is called a ghost band. Split Enz in their last album (See Ya 'Round which was released in 1984) had no original members.
@@highgreendawn while Noel and Eddie recorded on LP albums, Noel started in 1973/74 (Eddie in 1974) while the band was founded in 1972. The original founding lineup was Phil Judd, Tim Finn, Mike Chunn, Miles Golding and Mike Howard.
@@DanielRodrigues0048 Ah cool. I remember from a radio documentary thing that Eddie joined later on, but I thought that Noel was a school friend who had always been around.
In fairness, from a fan's perspective I think it's a little irrelevant to compare whether a band still has any "original" members, when in several of the cases listed, the technically "original" lineups never achieved any real degree of success. For example, who cares about the original lineup of Heart? The Wilson sisters WERE Heart as far as 99.9999% of their fans are concerned.
They weren't even calling themselves Heart until the Wilsons joined. A few other bands on this list were similar, going through lineup changes when they were just getting started. If you look into the history of successful bands, that's pretty common.
The last time we saw them it appeared like the were playing along with old footage being shown on a screen behind them, I felt they should've opened for Hank Jr instead of the other way around.
Renaissance is a band that changed all its members. It started out with former Yardbirds Jim McCarty, Keith Relf, his sister and others but within a few years everyone original had quit with Annie Haslam, Michael Dunford, Tout, Camp, etc whom all joined later on remaining. This was the classic lineup until about the early 80's. Only Haslam/Dunford were left using the name until Dunford died a few years ago.
And then there's Tangerine Dream. Only Edgar Froese remained a constant member until his death in 2015. Amazingly the band in some incarnation is still active. But then again Froese always thought of TD as an idea instead of a band.
@@rbilleaud Yeah, my feeling is that the original band is cemented when the first record is made. Annie and Nancy were both on the first album, practically wrote the entire album themselves, except for "Sing Child", so... yeah I'd say Annie and Nancy are original members. Though it would be cool to see Roger join them for a tour / some guest appearances.
@@TheKestevon actually, several different names. they were originally called the army, then after ann joined they became hocus pocus, then white heart, and finally, heart. so ann is still an original founding member of heart, nancy joined a few years later so she isn't a founding member.
You TOTALLY left out Molly Hatchet!! Not only are there no founding members in the band, but they have all died! And I'm not talking about the bar-band days but the lineup on the first TWO hit albums!
There are no original members of the Yankees alive, yet they are the Yankees. Dead & Company continues on, I hope they do when Bob is gone. If I see Molly Hatchet is playing, I’m aware of who is not going to be there. I also know what I’m going to get. A fun night out.
I have Babe Ruth's 3rd album from 1975 and a damn fine album it is too! AND they still have most of their original members! Sorry I don't know much about baseball...
The singing group Expose had different original singing members. I saw one of the original singers from Expose perform in a casino in Las Vegas called Circus Circus once and was unaware of the fact that She was one of the original singers of Expose until years later when I saw a documentary about the singing group.
The Outlaws. Henry Paul came in back in 1973 BUT the Outlaws were playing teen clubs and the college circuit in Florida since 1967-the 73 version was basically the same band with Henry Paul replacing Herb Pino on rhythm and vocals. The Outlaws make fine music, but no original members....Even the recently departed drummer Monte Yoho was not technically original -the original was David Dix-however Monte entered in the 60s so truly was part of the original as he and David alternated for a time based on David’s work schedule.
Two they didn't mention was Blackfoot and Molly Hatchet. I seen both versions of Hatchet. I will take the original, thank ya. Haven't seen this latest version of Blackfoot.
@@ballyshannongirl that was my thought too. I knew he died years ago, but I didn't know they'd continued on with a new front man. Basically Molly Hatchet and Blackfoot are just marketing a brand name these days.
@@Chris_the_Dingo Bobby Ingram bought the name. Phil McCormack can't really sing. It's more like barking. But that's simply my opinion. Don't know much about the actual Blackfoot line up. Saw them only once in the 80th as support for the Scorpions in Germany. They blew the Scorps off the stage.
Yeah, but the advert mentioned Valerie Bertinelli, and she was married to Eddie Van Halen for 20 years, and she's Wolf's mother, so that practically makes the whole thing metal. Or is it meta?
The chemistry naturally changes whenever anyone leaves or joins. I think it is rare to be better than the ones that made the name. With YES, they really should pack it in. I saw the current version shortly after Squires passing. I will not go again.There is good music, but the etheral magic had left for the most part when Wakeman and Anderson exited.They are key to that particular sound and it simply is not there anymore. They should hang it up out of respect for their incredible legacy. Heart was never the same after Fisher left. He was a real spark plug in the band.
While I watched Anderson, Rabin & Wakeman two years ago and had a fa-bu-lous evening (helped by the fact that I was standing front row, only 6 foot from Jon). The drummer and bass player were more than competent, as captivating as I could hope for with two replacement 'band' members. Jon has always been the real thing for me. Impossible to fill his shoes. "The other Jon's" trying to look and sound like Jon's spitting image only amplifies the differences for me.
King Crimsons only original member left is Robert Fripp. I seen them about almost a month ago and they still did a stellar performance and I love Jakko's vocals it's amazing
@@DCB728 Well, HbH are still playing shows together, despite the difficulties of working through what the guys at WhatCulture Wrestling call the Ongoing Global Bastard. Which is more than can be said of Ann and Nancy as of late.
I feel like bands have certain members that are their heart (Iommi with Sabbath, Lemmy with Motorhead, Squire with Yes, Wright with Floyd) and without them the band are nothing.
I would say Waters with Floyd. Gilmour/Wright/Mason Floyd just wasn't the same band at all. Of course Syd-less Floyd wasn't the same either, but that was long before my time and the Waters and Gilmour version were pretty famous by the time I (and probably most people) heard of them.
@@markhunter8554 That was the same with Motorhead. All through the band's history Lemmy was the only constant member. They only got better through the years until Lemmy was too sick to carry on.
The Heart thing is absolutely wrong. Yes, there was a band called Army before Heart with the Fisher brothers, BUT they weren't Heart, so you can't claim that it was the same band. Heck, if you're going to go that route, you could claim almost any band that was formed with the core members of a different group is that way. That's like saying Guns N Roses doesn't have any original members because they evolved from LA Guns and Axl wasn't originally the singer for LA Guns. I mean it gets really convoluted if that's your standard.
I think he said they were Heart, then Army, then became Heart again when Anne joined. But be that as it may, they died and were void in all creativity following the departure of Fisher, Fossen, and Derosier. IMHO
@@sebastianquinchia1840 No, the band changed name to Heart, it didn't "become" heart. Bands change names all the time without becoming something new. A band got a new guitarist and lead singer, while going back to an older name - it's still the same band as it were before, i mean, in the case of Heart, it wasn't until the 80s that they changed their sound, even though the Wilson sisters joined in the 70s. Seems a bit douchey to just shit on the work of the former members, by basically just saying that they didn't exist, because you happen to like the Wilson sisters.
@@sebastianquinchia1840 Not true. The band changed their name to Heart around 1972 when Ann joined up with Roger Fisher and Mike Fossen. Nancy didn't join until 1974, so she's not a founding member. If you want to get really technical, Ann isn't a founding member either. Roger and Mike got it all rolling-Ann joined up with them.
@@adreanmarantz2103 Soft Machine was a British avant-garde rock band formed in Canterbury c. 1966-67. Gong was formed c. 1970 in Paris by Soft Machine's original guitarist David Allen.
The story my mom tells me is that she got to hang out with Quiet Riot backstage. After the concert, one of the members of the band called her house and asked if she wanted to go with them on tour. My grandfather picked up the phone and said "Never call this number again" and hung up. Lol
Okay some of these are interesting, and some of these I knew about. However in the cases of bands like Heart, Judas Priest, and (apparently) Napalm Death, I don't think it's fair to cite them as having no original members left when there are still members present who wrote and played on the band's first album. To me, it doesn't matter who started the band in what year and who played in it leading up to that debut release. The band's history proper begins with whatever lineup puts out the first album, because it's not going to matter what they sounded like before that going forward.
Ann and Nancy put Heart on the map. Highly questionable to put them on here since they were the main songwriters of the band, not to mention the main vocalists and face of the band too
Trevor Rabin co-wrote Owner Of A Lonely Heart, arguably Yes' biggest hit, and he would go on to write great film scores like Armageddon and Remember The Titans.
What this video failed to mention was the original lineup of The Hollies which comprised of Allan Clarke on lead vocals, Graham Nash on lead vocals and rhythm guitar, Vic Steele on lead guitar, Eric Haydock on bass and Don Rathbone on drums.
Well, no seeing as a lot of them don't cover any of the songs that the original band played. Most of these are bands that didn't record anything til the new members came.
And then you have ZZ Top who had the same lineup from formation in 1971 until the recent passing of bassist Dusty Hill. Original Rush drummer John Rutsey appeared on the band's eponymous debut album and than left due to health issues. He was replaced by Neil Peart for the second album, Fly By Night, and the lineup remained constant until Peart's death.
Remember seeing Foreigner a few years ago and the 1st 5 songs the last remaining member was not on stage. It seemed weird, but at least they sounded good.
Nazareth is awfully close to a cover band now. Only bassist Pete Agnew remains. Remove Dan McCafferty and Manny Charlton from the lineup, and can you really still call the band Nazareth with a straight face?
Excellent, except for one small mistake. The Hollies hit in 1972-73 was known most commonly as just Long Cool Woman although the longer version you mentioned was also used as the title, with one exception. The word tall was never used on the song.
A close one is Dream Theater; John Petrucci - guitar John Myung - bass Mike Portnoy - drums Kevin Moore - keyboards Chris Collins - vocals First to leave was Chris Collins who was just barely capable of singing what the band wanted to play. He was replaced by Charlie Dominici. Charlie stuck around for one album and tour, but was kind of an odd man out in the group due to age, he was a bit older than everyone else, and, like Chris, was very challenged by the songwriting. He was replaced by James LaBrie on vocals. Two albums later, Kevin Moore felt artistically distanced from what DT was trying to become, so he finished his writing obligations on the Awake album, then left before the tour could even begin. Derek Sherinian was hired as a stopgap for the tour, but was hired full time before the tour ended. He stuck around for two albums. He was then replaced by Jordan Rudess, whom DT wanted way back for the Awake tour when Kevin left, but he was unavailable at the time. The line up was thus; John Petrucci - Guitar John Myung - bass Mike Portnoy - drums Jordan Rudess - keyboards James LaBrie - vocals This would be the lineup for the next five albums. When the band got together to begin writing what would become the album A Dramatic Turn Of Events, Mike Portnoy announced he wanted to take a break from the grind the band had been on from the start. In the end he decided to leave the band instead and was replaced by Mike Mangini. John Petrucci and John Myung are the only two original members left, and interestingly enough, grew up together and promised one another they'd be in a rock band together. So far, so good.
What about Renaissance? Formed by Keith Relf and Jim Mcarty of the Yardbirds, broke up soon after and another band with none of the original members co-opted the name.
By the third album they were an entirely new band. When the original members reformed they could not use their original name and changed it to Illusion.
American power metal band Riot (now Riot V) are that way too. With the death of their founding guitarist Mark Reale they had no founding members left in the band.
@@BrianDropdead yeah I think they changed it when the last founding member who was still in the band died sort of as a way to have the Riot name die with him
Renaissance had no original members by the second album. Rockapella also has no current members. The original bass left very quickly, the original high tenor left after their audition for Carmen Sandiego, the original tenor left a year or two after that show ended, and the original baritone left in the early 2000s.
A few years ago - Gene Simmons talked about KISS carrying on with all replacement members - in perpetuity - like for generations to come - long after all original members had passed on - Gene must figure he can still somehow make money on this idea - maybe by selling rights to other musicians to "eventually" be in KISS ?
@@bigheadfred At this point, KISS is gone. long gone. 1983 gone. yet Kids will always like that image of Kiss. so yeah they might go on as a Kid's band. with the stage show and all.
The Manhattans--all of the original members have passed away, leaving only Gerald Alston, who joined the group after the original lead singer left and also passed away.
@@D1Gr8hansGraf at PNC in NJ, I had front row seat. I’m a life long JB fan. Vinnie on drums. Great show. Stevie Van Zandt jumped up on stage with Rodgers.
Yeah, she isn't quite as large now, but she's still a big beautiful woman with a killer voice! I can't see how video directors and others were so cruel to her in the 80s.
Could you argue for Deep Purple not having any original members.Though Ian Paice has been there more or less from the start,technically the original drummer was Chris Curtis who founded Deep Purple under the name Roundabout.
@Andrew Hudson • Once you change the name of the band that is when you start the line up for members so Deep Purple did not exist before roundabout changed the name to Deep Purple.
Led Zeppelin did it right. When Bonham died the Zep died. Look at the ZOSO album; they weren't in it just for the money. Now, I can see some exceptions, like Lynyrd Skynyrd being original & family members so whatever. But mostly, I like most I think, frown upon it. Usually people know when it's just for fame & name recognition.
If they were successful then id agree. But sometimes the lineup that makes it big and people remember isnt the original, like Queen, The Beatles, Genesis, Journey, Green Day and The Police.
Ann and Nancy Wilson are original members of Heart. The band was Hocus Pocus before they joined. Bands that a member still owns the rights to but doesn't play in is still an original member. Iron Maiden was formed by bassist Steve Harris, however, guitarist Dave Murray is also an original member who was brought into the band when they changed out the original lead singer before they recorded an album.
The Guess Who hasn't had any real roots since 1975 when Burton Cummings left the band, some hard core fans might say it hasn't been original since 1970 when Randy Bachman left.
They are still touring, but the only original member left is the drummer, Gary Peterson. Their newest album sounds good, but as far as the oldies they're nothing but a cover band now.
@@veronicagee4335 I've seen the band that tours, you're right it's a cover band. When I saw it Donnie McDougall was lead and Gary was not on drums. The lineup changes every time the band hits the stage. The Guess Who brand and franchise was purchased by bassist Bill Wallace after they broke up in 1975 and he kept the band moving with dozens of different members since then, including a couple of (real) tours with the original members.
"is it still the same band if none of the original members remain?" No. It's a cover band. But it's not about "original" members. It's about the format of the band when they were relevant. The quiet riot example nails this. They became relevant with Metal Health, at that point anyone going to see them wouldn't, and SHOULDN't care that Randy Rhoades wasn't with them.
I have the Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe cassettes from 88 to 90. Trevor Rabins Can't look away 1989. Yes Union of 1991 with Anderson Howe and Rabin. Also GTRs cassette from 1986 with Steve Howe and Steve Hackett. Some might remember When the heart rules the mind. All good stuff with that Yes sound.
*Napalm Death* is an excellent example of Theseus' Ship. After they left the band, Nic Bullen, Mick Harris, and Justin Broadrick formed *Scorn* and released the album "Vae Solis". These were the three members who played on Side A of *Napalm Death's* "Scum". So is Side A of "Scum" by *Napalm Death* or *Scorn* ? Is "Vae Solis" by *Scorn* or *Napalm Death* ?
Napalm Death is like three completely separate bands with overlap in the middle of recording first two albums. Saying this as someone who never really got into their later (i.e. songs over a minute) work. I LOVE their 80s stuff. Both lineups. It's just so raw! You Suffer was my notification sound until I realized it made me twitchy. Early Carcass also have that feel though they managed to style-shift without losing all members (which led to burnout and LONG hiatus). Burnt to a Crisp is a masterpiece! Grindcore is a special genre.
Blackfoot. They're a tribute band at this point. Ricky Medlocke joined Skynyrd, and he was Blackfoot's leader. Odd. Then, Ohio Players. Most commonly known for Love Rollercoaster. Every member is dead. You rarely hear them mentioned... but they never reformed with anyone, so that's why I guess.
Um, you forgot to mention an extremely important detail of Little River Band: The Australian band is now occupied entirely by an American cast. Yes, that's right: Little River Band is 100% American now. I'm American and even this makes me sick to my stomach.
Bob Schneider...wow, I didn't know this!. As an Australian..I'm not sickened to my stomach, just didn't know. What happened to Glenn Shorrock I wonder?. Obviously Farnham has been a solo artist for many years now...
I had no idea what had gone on behind the scenes and only found out recently what had legally occurred-can,t believe it feel really sad that this once proud band has come to this.
My band was playing in a city in the southern US in 1990; two different sets of Drfters were playing in town that night, at two different venues. No original members (not surprised)!
@@bindig1 What is Priest a tribute to though? Last I checked there are at least two guys on stage and three guys on record that played on the first album. Who cares who was in it before that?
Are there any bands you like that have survived losing a member?
Guns n Roses
ACDC they survived but not the same
Smashing pumpkins
Siouxsie and the banshees
The cure
The Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra has been going since 1781, and unsurprisingly, they do not have any original members. They still make great music.
Is it a band or an orchestra, cos u no the latter don't count
@@cl759 An orchestra is a band, even if they don't play rock 'n' roll.
@@plrndl ahem, not in a good mood, so here goes, Ur orchestra hardly has any music on their repertoire which they themselves composed
bands of a kind that are discussed in this video PLAY THEIR OWN SONGS
@@cl759 I hate to upset you further, but the topic of discussion is "bands with no original members left in them", not "bands who play their own compositions".
@@plrndl I hate to upset you, but bands don't have conductors.
It’s like Grandpas’ axe. We’ve replaced the head five times. We’ve replaced the handle three times. It’s a damn fine axe.
Lol 😂 🎸👏🎻🎺🎷🎹🥁🎸🎸🎸🎸
No, it’s like triggers broom
And it's still "grandpa's axe". GOOD ANSWER.
@@user-oo8us I so wanted to say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First thing I thought of.
Went to a Foreigner concert pre-covid. No original members that night. Felt like I overpaid for a tribute band.
My GF talked me into buying tickets to see Foreigner and Journey a few years back at the old Irvine Amphitheater. I felt the same way twice over!
Yeah I was about to say I know Journey don't got no original members
Neal Schon is the only original Journey member.
@@321snoot cain us not original
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If you play an instrument you may have been a member of Blood Sweat and Tears and not even know it.
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Hilarious. I play bass maybe I was a member.
Y’know , I think that might’ve been me, , , ,
Is a kazoo an instrument?
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YEP! - I think I remember you!
Some bands have their original members leave very early. When Iron Maiden released their debut in 1980, Steve Harris was already the only original member. If Steve Harris was to leave or die, technically Iron Maiden would have no orignal members, but you'd still have members like Adrian Smith, Dave Murray and Bruce Dickinson who are still important to the band
The Moody Blues and Fleetwood Mac are other notable examples of this. The lineups for which they're most famous were actually complete overhauls of their original lineups.
That's what exactly happened to YES, after Chris passed away (Also a bassist like Steve) None of the original members are left, but you can't think of YES today without them.
Gotta love maiden
Neco McBain been there a long time. They brought in Gandrick Gears as the second guitar player for 'Afraid of the Dark'. Then he never left and became the third guitar player.
@@p.d.l7023 The album is Fear Of The Dark,Janick Gers is how you spell it and Nicko McBain (McBrain as they called him when he joined on the Piece Of Mind album). Personally I prefer Clive Burr, the drummer on the first three albums. Maybe you were just screwing with the names on purpose?!?
This has been an interesting thing to watch over the last 30, 40 years; watching classic rock bands become brands basically.
kiss basically
@@nikitahichoii482 lol kiss was always just a brand
@@MrBones-lw2bf, Kiss was a phenomenal band in the mid 70s. They sold out in the late 70s and then went way downhill after Ace Frehley left in 1982. Since then, Gene Simmons has made it way too obvious that he is 100% about money.
@@StarfieldRailway Gene Simmons is the Yoko Ono of KISS... HOWEVER, they STILL have half of their original lineup, and frankly, EVERY SINGLE guitar player they had was better than Frehley. Same with drummers. Eric Carr and Vinnie Vincent are legendary, rest are at least competent. But KISS is Kiss because of voices and costumes, the whole show, I would not have accepted them having just one vocalist, or half-assing the stage production.
@@KasumiRINA, without Ace's guitar work, Kiss would not have gotten famous.
Foreigner is pretty much hanging on by Mick Jones, and they've even done a number of shows without Jones when he was having health problems.
Yeah, I saw something where Cheap Trick was opening for Foreigner and they had a clause in their contract that said if Mick Jones wasn't performing Cheap Trick would headline and Foreigner would open because Cheap Trick didn't want to open for a cover band.
I saw Foreigner several years ago. Right after the concert started I texted a friend and said “Unless Mick Jones is wearing a big blond curly wig, he isn’t on stage.” Sure enough, it was a fill in.
@@patrickdaly5068 That's incredibly lame. I'd demand my money back for paying to see a "tribute band".
I saw Foreigner twice relatively recently. Well, I saw Foreigner once and a tribute band calling themselves Foreigner once (no Mick Jones, obviously).
Please charge lower ticket price in that case
I wouldn't count Priest since they started as Freight (Ian Hill being a founding member and still with Priest) and changed their name because Judas Priest was more well-known when they took Al Atkins into the fold. So that's a case of a band changing their name (a similar thing happened to Scorpions; they broke up after Lonesome Crow released, so Rudy Schenker and Klaus Meine joined Uli Roth, Francis Buchholtz, and Jürgen Rosenthal in Dawn Road, and then Dawn Road changed their name to Scorpions). So yeah, Priest still has Ian Hill as a remaining founding member.
*HOWEVER* I would definitely include Stratovarius in this...their modern lineup of Jens Johannson, Timo Kotipelto, Lauri Porra, Matthias Kupiainen, and Rolf Pilve, the "almost classic" lineup of Timo Tolkki, Jari Kainulainen, Tuomo Lassila, and Antti Ikonen, and the original lineup of Tuomo Lassila, Staffan Stralman, John Viherva, and Mika Ervaskari. And this is a band that's been consistently touring and recording since the mid-80s (15 studio albums and counting, and their newer material is possibly their best).
Finally someone mentions Stratovarius
@@alexandersteelofficial Stratovarius is the Band of Theseus.
Ha! Not a very good example there Kylie! You're missing the whole point of the video and information shared. Why do people like you always get so butt-hurt if info in someone else's video don't line-up 100% with your WRONG opinions???
@@patkramer4423 How are they missing the point, they're just saying that they technically have a founding member left, quit being a prick
Honestly, they would have probably had more success with Freight. It's still a cool, heavy name, but ambiguous enough to let the music speak for itself instead of being overlooked simply on the band name alone.
As a founding member of the JW Stoker Band,founded in 1975, I'm proud to say that we still have our original lineup.
Rick Waksman recently received the CBE award. I thought I’d mention that for all of you. I just read this on Summer.
I'm willing to bet the current members of the Duke Ellington Band as well as Count Basie's aren't original members.
( IF ) those bands are still going you better believe it Those bands are only tribute bands
They can't be. Duke's orchestra was formed in 1923, and Basie's in 1935.
I'm willing to bet anything that those are Just tribute bands
Not at all. Yet since they have continuity members that overlapped (ancestors?) they aren't really tribute bands.
@@waltciii3 Yup some of the really old people first joined before they died. They don't make any new material of course. But you can't exactly say it's 100 percent a tribute band when a few of the guys were hired by the men themselves.
Bands go through members all the time. There needs to be a distinction made between original band and classic era band. In rare cases, this may be the same.
Fact, i would not be surprised if all bands had massive change ups in members before, or if, they become known. It's extremely common.
People do. For example, the Mark 2 lineup of Deep Purple is considered classic. I mean their first record had them a mount Rushmore-like cover. @@omega1231 yup, nothing left of Judas Priest by the time they started recording. Iron Maiden was almost a completely different band by Soundhouse Tapes (their DEMO).
I would've chosen Anderson Bruford Wakeman and Howe as the Yes alternative.
yeah for sure. Howe is too good
Howe is the best
Compared to the other version that used the Yes name, yes. Squire was fantastic but Anderson Bruford Wakeman and Howe were the Yes we wanted to see
Buck Wheat was replaced
Hard to go wrong when Bill Bruford is your drummer.
Lynyrd Skynyrd has Gary Rossington as the Last Surviving member. The band was originally called "The 1%" and "My Back Yard". The original line-up was;
Ronnie Van Zandt- Vocals
Allen Collins & Gary Rossington- Guitar
Larry Junstrum- Bass
Bob Burns- Drums
The only ones alive since The Plane Crash on October 20, 1977 are Gary Rossington, Artymus Pyle and Leslie Hawkins.
I just saw them in Knoxville and Gary Rossington was not with them there. They simply announced that he was at his home in Atlanta with his wife. No further explanation. So none of the original members were there, but they are still Skynyrd!
This one aged bad.
Jokes apart, I don’t think they’ll go on without him.
"Are you or have you ever been a member of Arcade Fire?" (a line from The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt)
Hey! Just saw this. I painted that Randy Rhodes shirt that Kevin DuBrow is wearing in the picture. :) lol awesome. made my night.
The original members of The Little River Band reformed for a tour but were prevented from using their own name by the current LRB, who are really just a tribute show.
Judas priest was news to me on this list.
Yeah Ian Hill has been in the band since forming in 1969
Ha! I guess you've been a "fan" of theirs for a long time there buddy!??!?!!?????!??!?
You forgot JEFFERSON AIRPLANE/AIRSHIP/STARSHIP!!!
3 different bands. 1989 both starship and the original jefferson airplane released albums.
If you go on chasing rabbits and you think you're going to fall. Just ask Alice 💃 i think she knows? 💫💥💢🐰🐇 Yeah Jefferson Airplane! 👏🎻🎺🎷🎸🎹🥁
Jefferson Airplane / Jefferson Starship / Starship !
Jefferson Airship was the little-remembered incarnation from 1984 that was just Mickey Thomas on a keytar.
And don't forget Journey
Before watching this I thought what a shame Quiet Riot won't even be included. I was pleasantly surprised as they are my second favorite band of all time the first is kiss without the impersonators. Quiet Riot was the first band featured in this video, that's awesome thank you!!
What is the Queit Riot / Slade connection? Are they just allowed to play Slade!?
& KISS always #1
Oh boy.....this is what gets you excited? Because QR were in the video and you "got happy" ??? Thanks for telling us all about your SECOND fav band of all time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha!!!!!
Pat just wishes he were Eddie Kramer! You know!?
Don Wilson gave up touring with the Ventures in 2015, the founder and last surviving member...
The American metal band Riot, after founding guitarist Mark Reale passed away, no original member was left. They are still active today. They also have had many members come and go since there mid 70's inception.
How about Renaissance, formed by Keith Relf and his sister after the breakup of the Yardbirds. They released two albums before leaving. All the original members shuffled out during
the recording of the third record and by the fourth, the "classic lineup" of Michael Dunford, Annie Haslam, Terry Sullivan, Jon Camp and John Tout.
Or The Grass Roots. They were originally not even a band, but a nome de plume for songwriter PF Sloan. After recording of Where Were You When I Needed You started to take off they hired a group called "The Bedouins" to become The Grass Roots. They recorded the remainder of the debut album and then broke up. Decca then hired Rob Grill and company to become the new Grass Roots from the second album on. Of course the guitarist in this lineup, Creed Bratton is famous from his work on The Office. The group disbanded in the late 70's, but Grill resurrected the name in the 80's to tour the oldies circuit. After his death, his estate allowed those musicians to continue touring under that name, as some had been with him for 20 years by that time.
I saw that The Drifters and the Platters were coming to Spartanburg. Both have names owned by management and haven't had any original members since the early 60's for the Drifters and since whenever the last remaining original member of the Platters died. Note, both groups date to the early to mid fifties.
You can watch videos of the original Renaissance before the classic lineup; similar style but a very different sound of the short time later Haslam/Dunford/Camp/Tout/Sullivan band. Several of the original members reformed years later and named their band Illusion. I believe this was after Relf's death.
The Roman Emperors. Although only Nero on fiddle is remembered.
‘Bit highbrow for most, I’m thinking, , , ,
No Zack, I see whatcha did there. That's pretty cool👍
Replaced by Trump amirite
That got me laughing out loud, well done
Heard Nero was "fired".
Another band that has zero original members and keeps rolling along as a style and a name is southern fried rock band Molly Hatchet who had a break-out album with "Flirtin' With Disaster" being a monster hit. "Satisfied Man" got a lot of radio play, as well.
I saw the band touring as Molly Hatchet several years ago. No original members and they sucked. Nothing like when I saw them in the early 80s
100 % cover band fraud
I saw them in the 90s and they were awesome.
Others, possibly? The Platters, The Coasters, Bay City Rollers, Menudo, Jefferson Airplane/Starship, Benny Goodman band, Paul Whitman Orchestra,Glen Miller band
Rickey Melendez is the original member of Menudo and he's still with them.
What about Genesis?
Molly Hatchet and Blackfoot as well.
@@EddieGaster Banks and Mike are still the originals
BCR had barely any original members already 1974
I can't believe they included Heart on this list. The band didn't record their first album until the mid 1970's, with Ann and Nancy Wilson. That's what you go by. Without a recording contract and album release, they are just another "basement band," nobody will ever hear of. Before, and unless that happens, it doesn't matter who was in it...
even if not, the band never took that name without the Wilson sisters
@@Jacksabbath44 ~ Exactly...👍🎶
If that weren't enough, didn't he say the band even had a different name, they joined and the changed it to Heart? How is that the same band? So yes, they are original members.
That answered my question.
@@RonSwansonIsMyGod ~ That's another good point...
Too bad Crosby, Stills, and Nash weren't all new members. Would be funny.
Another 70s band, journey, could have still been going strong if Steve Perry hadn't gotten the urge to go solo..if they had kept that 1979 lineup intact.... GEEZZ!
@@kenperk9854 I've seen Journey about 9 years ago with that new singer. Not bad. But yeah the original was great.
Don't forget the intermittent Young.
The worst musical documentaries ever are the ones where they get no music clearance. But the worst of the worst are those that play music in the background that bears absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to the music they are talking about.
The embryonic "Heart" farting around the club scene with different names and not having yet scored a recording contract, probably shouldn't count.
True
don’t say farting around... sounds stupid
@@mildred714 You sound stupid too and you don't see anyone complaining
Matt i’m complaining.
Several years ago I saw Thin Lizzy, which had only the drummer, who I believe was classic era but not original. They made no bones about being a tribute band, having hired an "all star" lineup from various hard rock bands.
You cannot replace Phil Lynott
At least they had enough dignity to not record an album with that lineup, that' why they formed Black Star Riders.
Not the drummer, but the guitar player. Scott Gorham is the only member left from before Philip's death and, guess what, he wasn't in the original line up. I consider him original though. Lizzy's twin guitar sound was created when he joined.
Molly Hatchett is another band that fits into this category.
They are unfortunately too underrated for the list.
@@MrCool_420 Yeah, they didn't sell millions of records or anything like that.....moron
However, ALL of the original Molly Hatchet guys are dead. That's a little different than just reforming.
Also Marshall Tucker band is still performing with no original members
@@danstrayer111 Robert Fripp has never left his band.
The term that has been used for this situation (no original members in a band) is called a ghost band.
Split Enz in their last album (See Ya 'Round which was released in 1984) had no original members.
Wasn't Noel in it for the whole run?
@@highgreendawn while Noel and Eddie recorded on LP albums, Noel started in 1973/74 (Eddie in 1974) while the band was founded in 1972. The original founding lineup was Phil Judd, Tim Finn, Mike Chunn, Miles Golding and Mike Howard.
@@DanielRodrigues0048 Ah cool. I remember from a radio documentary thing that Eddie joined later on, but I thought that Noel was a school friend who had always been around.
In fairness, from a fan's perspective I think it's a little irrelevant to compare whether a band still has any "original" members, when in several of the cases listed, the technically "original" lineups never achieved any real degree of success. For example, who cares about the original lineup of Heart? The Wilson sisters WERE Heart as far as 99.9999% of their fans are concerned.
They weren't even calling themselves Heart until the Wilsons joined. A few other bands on this list were similar, going through lineup changes when they were just getting started. If you look into the history of successful bands, that's pretty common.
I care, the 2 guys went to my high school!
Exactly.
Heart is not just Ann and Nancy. Alot of fans of Heart regard the real band Heart is Ann, Nancy, Roger, Steve, Howard and Michael.
This is a prime example of how I feel. Heart, Judas Priest. Both had stable lineups when it mattered.
Lynyrd Skynyrd has only Gary Rossington. I don't go to their live shows anymore. It's pretty much a really good cover band now.
They do have a member, Rickey medlocke. Who played drums on some of their early 1971-72 tracks.
The last time we saw them it appeared like the were playing along with old footage being shown on a screen behind them, I felt they should've opened for Hank Jr instead of the other way around.
There's still Artemis Pyle but he quick after the plane crash
Artemis Pyle lives in my town.
@@jillharris9919 Hank Jr blows ass
Renaissance is a band that changed all its members. It started out with former Yardbirds Jim McCarty, Keith Relf, his sister and others but within a few years everyone original had quit with Annie Haslam, Michael Dunford, Tout, Camp, etc whom all joined later on remaining. This was the classic lineup until about the early 80's. Only Haslam/Dunford were left using the name until Dunford died a few years ago.
When the original members wanted to reform they could no longer use the name Renaissance. So they put out records as Illusion.
And then there's Tangerine Dream. Only Edgar Froese remained a constant member until his death in 2015. Amazingly the band in some incarnation is still active. But then again Froese always thought of TD as an idea instead of a band.
Froese, Franke and Schmoelling were my favorite TD lineup of all time. 👍
@@crominion6045 That's my second favorite lineup with my all-time favorite being Froese, Franke and Baumann.
Face it, folks, Heart was zip without the Wilson’s.
And they weren't even Heart before the Wilson sisters. That's why this list is so ridiculous.
@@rbilleaud Yup. Different name.
@@rbilleaud Yeah, my feeling is that the original band is cemented when the first record is made. Annie and Nancy were both on the first album, practically wrote the entire album themselves, except for "Sing Child", so... yeah I'd say Annie and Nancy are original members. Though it would be cool to see Roger join them for a tour / some guest appearances.
@@TheKestevon actually, several different names. they were originally called the army, then after ann joined they became hocus pocus, then white heart, and finally, heart. so ann is still an original founding member of heart, nancy joined a few years later so she isn't a founding member.
Shout-out to Roger Fisher though, his guitar work before he left is underrated
You TOTALLY left out Molly Hatchet!! Not only are there no founding members in the band, but they have all died! And I'm not talking about the bar-band days but the lineup on the first TWO hit albums!
Even the "bar band days" members are mostly all dead, I think...
Yeh.....
There are no original members of the Yankees alive, yet they are the Yankees. Dead & Company continues on, I hope they do when Bob is gone.
If I see Molly Hatchet is playing, I’m aware of who is not going to be there. I also know what I’m going to get. A fun night out.
@@sharecroppersmule7361 I'm not knocking the current lineup. I'm just saying they should have been included in this video.
@@sharecroppersmule7361 fun night out or not they should not be parading around as Molly Hatchet unless of course you're a sucker and you buy tickets
Molly Hatchet has no original members. In fact all the originals are dead.
Not all them dude
@@nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 LSU fan is correct sir.
@@tsmcbride06 no he isn't, Steve Holland is still alive
@@nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 Holland died last year. Great band, saw them 4 times.
@@tsmcbride06 yes seen them myself on the southern thunder tour and in the 80,s, loved them and the original blackfoot
Maybe it will be like a sports franchise. Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig are long gone but the Yankees still bring in new players all the time.
Fun fact: since Memorial Day the Yankees turned more triple plays the the d-backs have wins
You ever think what a coincidence it is that Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig's disease? (From the Sopranos)
I have Babe Ruth's 3rd album from 1975 and a damn fine album it is too! AND they still have most of their original members! Sorry I don't know much about baseball...
The singing group Expose had different original singing members. I saw one of the original singers from Expose perform in a casino in Las Vegas called Circus Circus once and was unaware of the fact that She was one of the original singers of Expose until years later when I saw a documentary about the singing group.
The Outlaws. Henry Paul came in back in 1973 BUT the Outlaws were playing teen clubs and the college circuit in Florida since 1967-the 73 version was basically the same band with Henry Paul replacing Herb Pino on rhythm and vocals. The Outlaws make fine music, but no original members....Even the recently departed drummer Monte Yoho was not technically original -the original was David Dix-however Monte entered in the 60s so truly was part of the original as he and David alternated for a time based on David’s work schedule.
Two they didn't mention was Blackfoot and Molly Hatchet. I seen both versions of Hatchet. I will take the original, thank ya. Haven't seen this latest version of Blackfoot.
I saw a Molly Hatchet/Blackfoot show about five years ago. It was just so-so....kind of like watching "tribute" bands
Without Danny Joe Brown it never was the real Hatchet
@@ballyshannongirl that was my thought too. I knew he died years ago, but I didn't know they'd continued on with a new front man. Basically Molly Hatchet and Blackfoot are just marketing a brand name these days.
@@Chris_the_Dingo Bobby Ingram bought the name. Phil McCormack can't really sing. It's more like barking. But that's simply my opinion. Don't know much about the actual Blackfoot line up. Saw them only once in the 80th as support for the Scorpions in Germany. They blew the Scorps off the stage.
@@ballyshannongirl The Hatchet/Blackfoot show I saw wasn't horrible. It just seemed weird...a group of young guys on stage playing Blackfoot tunes
Imagine playing a show in front of a Barilla pasta advert lol.
Nahhhh... sellout level over 9000🎸
That looked pretty funny, but also made me very hungry...😂👍
@@FanFanBessie2 mama mia !
Yeah, but the advert mentioned Valerie Bertinelli, and she was married to Eddie Van Halen for 20 years, and she's Wolf's mother, so that practically makes the whole thing metal. Or is it meta?
The chemistry naturally changes whenever anyone leaves or joins. I think it is rare to be better than the ones that made the name. With YES, they really should pack it in. I saw the current version shortly after Squires passing. I will not go again.There is good music, but the etheral magic had left for the most part when Wakeman and Anderson exited.They are key to that particular sound and it simply is not there anymore. They should hang it up out of respect for their incredible legacy. Heart was never the same after Fisher left. He was a real spark plug in the band.
While I watched Anderson, Rabin & Wakeman two years ago and had a fa-bu-lous evening (helped by the fact that I was standing front row, only 6 foot from Jon). The drummer and bass player were more than competent, as captivating as I could hope for with two replacement 'band' members.
Jon has always been the real thing for me. Impossible to fill his shoes. "The other Jon's" trying to look and sound like Jon's spitting image only amplifies the differences for me.
4.00 never knew andy kaufman fronted blood sweat and tears
LOL!
King Crimsons only original member left is Robert Fripp. I seen them about almost a month ago and they still did a stellar performance and I love Jakko's vocals it's amazing
The Grass Roots also tour with no original members.
That sounds like a midnight confession
deathtracer
I knew someone would say that sooner or later.
@@deathtracer Midnight Confessions was mostly the Wrecking Crew doing the music anyway.
Fun Fact About Heart: Steve Fossen now runs a Heart tribute band called Heart By Heart, which also includes former Heart drummer Michael Derosier.
I'd rather see them than see that band that calls themselves Heart.
@@DCB728 Well, HbH are still playing shows together, despite the difficulties of working through what the guys at WhatCulture Wrestling call the Ongoing Global Bastard. Which is more than can be said of Ann and Nancy as of late.
@@DCB728 Like Ann and Nancy aren't Heart?
@Mxulin Like no. Heart is Roger Fisher, Steve Fossen, Ann Wilson, Nancy Wilson, Howard Leese, and Michael Derosier. Roger and Steve founded Heart.
@@DCB728 founded a different named band that did nothing until the Wilson's came along and renamed to Heart
I feel like bands have certain members that are their heart (Iommi with Sabbath, Lemmy with Motorhead, Squire with Yes, Wright with Floyd) and without them the band are nothing.
this ^^
I saw Yes for the Union tour, and I think they had Squire, Kaye, Rabin(?) and the ABWH lineup - it was an awesome show!
I would say Waters with Floyd. Gilmour/Wright/Mason Floyd just wasn't the same band at all. Of course Syd-less Floyd wasn't the same either, but that was long before my time and the Waters and Gilmour version were pretty famous by the time I (and probably most people) heard of them.
I think a band should have at least a quorum of original members. Sabbath w/ only Iommi is not Sabbath to me.
@@brucetucker4847 Without Syd they moved away from psychedelic rock and more into progressive music
@@markhunter8554 That was the same with Motorhead. All through the band's history Lemmy was the only constant member. They only got better through the years until Lemmy was too sick to carry on.
The Heart thing is absolutely wrong. Yes, there was a band called Army before Heart with the Fisher brothers, BUT they weren't Heart, so you can't claim that it was the same band. Heck, if you're going to go that route, you could claim almost any band that was formed with the core members of a different group is that way. That's like saying Guns N Roses doesn't have any original members because they evolved from LA Guns and Axl wasn't originally the singer for LA Guns. I mean it gets really convoluted if that's your standard.
Actually LA Guns evolved from original Guns n Roses (sans Slash, Adler)
I think he said they were Heart, then Army, then became Heart again when Anne joined. But be that as it may, they died and were void in all creativity following the departure of Fisher, Fossen, and Derosier. IMHO
You are 100% right. Heart was a bad example of this and therefore should not have been on this list.
And ironically, there were actually two versions of LA Guns touring for a while (and word on the street was Tracii's version was not good).
Hey I love HEART
HEART being on this list is highly questionable.
Same with Judas Priest
Why is heart questionable?
@@waltertarantino9995 the band became Heart after the Wilsons joined and they released their first album. Ann and Nancy are both founding members
@@sebastianquinchia1840 No, the band changed name to Heart, it didn't "become" heart. Bands change names all the time without becoming something new. A band got a new guitarist and lead singer, while going back to an older name - it's still the same band as it were before, i mean, in the case of Heart, it wasn't until the 80s that they changed their sound, even though the Wilson sisters joined in the 70s.
Seems a bit douchey to just shit on the work of the former members, by basically just saying that they didn't exist, because you happen to like the Wilson sisters.
@@sebastianquinchia1840 Not true. The band changed their name to Heart around 1972 when Ann joined up with Roger Fisher and Mike Fossen. Nancy didn't join until 1974, so she's not a founding member. If you want to get really technical, Ann isn't a founding member either. Roger and Mike got it all rolling-Ann joined up with them.
If the original members give their blessing or all leave before they hit big I don’t think it matters.
My favorite hymn - In the garden of Eden - by I Ron Butterfly
Love in a Gadda da vida, but also really liked their theme song.
Marge and Homer used to make out to that hymn 😜
@@johnnys8393 Wait a minute, this sounds like rock and/or roll
That's mine too, they almost killed the organist though!
That old lady organist slayed that cover.
That’s awesome I’m going to see Napalm Death in December
Another couple of bands you forgot were Soft Machine and Gong.
Yeah, two powerhouse household names 😂😂.
Who?
@@adreanmarantz2103 Soft Machine was a British avant-garde rock band formed in Canterbury c. 1966-67. Gong was formed c. 1970 in Paris by Soft Machine's original guitarist David Allen.
Nice!
The story my mom tells me is that she got to hang out with Quiet Riot backstage. After the concert, one of the members of the band called her house and asked if she wanted to go with them on tour. My grandfather picked up the phone and said "Never call this number again" and hung up. Lol
Did Kevin DuBrow slip her some coke?
@@dw8840 No, thankfully…not to my knowledge
Okay some of these are interesting, and some of these I knew about. However in the cases of bands like Heart, Judas Priest, and (apparently) Napalm Death, I don't think it's fair to cite them as having no original members left when there are still members present who wrote and played on the band's first album. To me, it doesn't matter who started the band in what year and who played in it leading up to that debut release. The band's history proper begins with whatever lineup puts out the first album, because it's not going to matter what they sounded like before that going forward.
Good point. I don't consider Pete Best to be a founding member of the Beatles, or even Stuart Sutcliffe.
Ann and Nancy put Heart on the map. Highly questionable to put them on here since they were the main songwriters of the band, not to mention the main vocalists and face of the band too
You know you don't have to be in a band from the beginning to become the face and main songwriter right? Pink Floyd ring any bells?
@@Xeroforte Steve Perry & jonathan Cain of Journey
Yes, and Roger, Steve, Howard and Mike also put Heart on the map. Heart IS NOT Ann and Nancy.
Trevor Rabin co-wrote Owner Of A Lonely Heart, arguably Yes' biggest hit, and he would go on to write great film scores like Armageddon and Remember The Titans.
If It Wasn't for James Young. Styx would have no original members in it now.
And they did exist as a band before him. However he was in by the time they were signed and renamed Styx, so i guess he counts as an original member.
Most underrated band of all time
So Chuck Panozzo wasn't an original member?
@@kelle0285 while he is still an official member i think he rarely plays live with them nowadays due to health issues.
Tommy Shaw is back
What this video failed to mention was the original lineup of The Hollies which comprised of Allan Clarke on lead vocals, Graham Nash on lead vocals and rhythm guitar, Vic Steele on lead guitar, Eric Haydock on bass and Don Rathbone on drums.
I knew that except for maybe Steele.
@@markhunter8554 They were originally called The Deltas, but Vic left a few months after becoming the Hollies, he had no intention of going Pro.
So they are basically “cover bands”
Just like the old saying! Nothing like the real thing! Lol 😂 🎸🎸🎷🎺🎻🎹🥁🎸👏
Are they though? It's a classic case of a 'Trigger's Broom Paradox'.
Well, no seeing as a lot of them don't cover any of the songs that the original band played. Most of these are bands that didn't record anything til the new members came.
I prefer the label "Tribute Band"
Authorized cover bands
And then you have ZZ Top who had the same lineup from formation in 1971 until the recent passing of bassist Dusty Hill. Original Rush drummer John Rutsey appeared on the band's eponymous debut album and than left due to health issues. He was replaced by Neil Peart for the second album, Fly By Night, and the lineup remained constant until Peart's death.
Once a band, now a brand! Foreigner, Toto...,
Toto still has Steve Luc and Paich
Remember seeing Foreigner a few years ago and the 1st 5 songs the last remaining member was not on stage. It seemed weird, but at least they sounded good.
Forgot Blackfoot. No original members either.
Jon Anderson (Yes) also made a couple of records with New Age legend and film music composer Vangelis, as “Jon and Vangelis.”
They racked up enough hits and popular album tracks to have a best of in a very short amount of time.
Nazareth is awfully close to a cover band now. Only bassist Pete Agnew remains. Remove Dan McCafferty and Manny Charlton from the lineup, and can you really still call the band Nazareth with a straight face?
peters son is playing drums
No
Excellent, except for one small mistake. The Hollies hit in 1972-73 was known most commonly as just Long Cool Woman although the longer version you mentioned was also used as the title, with one exception. The word tall was never used on the song.
"Right the transplants, cut us up and pass us out!" "Transplant my heart!"
A close one is Dream Theater;
John Petrucci - guitar
John Myung - bass
Mike Portnoy - drums
Kevin Moore - keyboards
Chris Collins - vocals
First to leave was Chris Collins who was just barely capable of singing what the band wanted to play. He was replaced by Charlie Dominici. Charlie stuck around for one album and tour, but was kind of an odd man out in the group due to age, he was a bit older than everyone else, and, like Chris, was very challenged by the songwriting. He was replaced by James LaBrie on vocals.
Two albums later, Kevin Moore felt artistically distanced from what DT was trying to become, so he finished his writing obligations on the Awake album, then left before the tour could even begin. Derek Sherinian was hired as a stopgap for the tour, but was hired full time before the tour ended. He stuck around for two albums. He was then replaced by Jordan Rudess, whom DT wanted way back for the Awake tour when Kevin left, but he was unavailable at the time.
The line up was thus;
John Petrucci - Guitar
John Myung - bass
Mike Portnoy - drums
Jordan Rudess - keyboards
James LaBrie - vocals
This would be the lineup for the next five albums. When the band got together to begin writing what would become the album A Dramatic Turn Of Events, Mike Portnoy announced he wanted to take a break from the grind the band had been on from the start. In the end he decided to leave the band instead and was replaced by Mike Mangini.
John Petrucci and John Myung are the only two original members left, and interestingly enough, grew up together and promised one another they'd be in a rock band together. So far, so good.
Ann and Nancy who else would you need??? Yes has done fine also!!!! How many members did the Allman Brothers go through and still ended on top!!!
What about Renaissance? Formed by Keith Relf and Jim Mcarty of the Yardbirds, broke up soon after and another band with none of the original members co-opted the name.
By the third album they were an entirely new band. When the original members reformed they could not use their original name and changed it to Illusion.
The yard birds! What 1967? 🎸🎸🎸🥁🎹
@@bettyschneider5268 Actually 1969. 2nd line up of band was consolidated by 1972, per Harmony Encyclopedia of Rock.
@@markhunter8554 Thanks for the information! 💒⛪⛪⛪🌈
@@bettyschneider5268 Yes, The Yardbirds, Keith and Jim, after the band broke up formed Renaissance.
American power metal band Riot (now Riot V) are that way too. With the death of their founding guitarist Mark Reale they had no founding members left in the band.
at least they sorta changed the name
@@BrianDropdead yeah I think they changed it when the last founding member who was still in the band died sort of as a way to have the Riot name die with him
Renaissance had no original members by the second album.
Rockapella also has no current members. The original bass left very quickly, the original high tenor left after their audition for Carmen Sandiego, the original tenor left a year or two after that show ended, and the original baritone left in the early 2000s.
A few years ago - Gene Simmons talked about KISS carrying on with all replacement members - in perpetuity - like for generations to come - long after all original members had passed on - Gene must figure he can still somehow make money on this idea - maybe by selling rights to other musicians to "eventually" be in KISS ?
Gene and Paul are making it a franchise.
I wish Gene Simmons would stop being such a shill!
@K-Pine440 🌲 What is that supposed to mean as a comeback?
@@bigheadfred At this point, KISS is gone. long gone. 1983 gone. yet Kids will always like that image of Kiss. so yeah they might go on as a Kid's band. with the stage show and all.
@K-Pine440 🌲 I don't get it either?
The Manhattans--all of the original members have passed away, leaving only Gerald Alston, who joined the group after the original lead singer left and also passed away.
No mention of BS&T best and most recognizable singer David Clayton Thomas hit after hit
🖐️4 minutes in Blood, Sweat and Tears ?
Yeah. I thought he was Blood Sweat and Tears
Ride a Painted Pony Let the spinning wheel spin
David Clayton Thomas was not an original member. He replaced Al Kooper for BS&T's second album.
@@freezer8530 They had the most hits with him and he is the voice of that band in anybody's mind
Ann Wilson had a huge voice and a huge everything else.
Saw her during Stars Align tour with Jeff Beck and Paul Rodgers 2018. Big beautiful voice and big body.
@@sealisa1398 I caught the same show in Irvine CA.
@@D1Gr8hansGraf at PNC in NJ, I had front row seat. I’m a life long JB fan. Vinnie on drums. Great show. Stevie Van Zandt jumped up on stage with Rodgers.
Lol 😂 🐘
Yeah, she isn't quite as large now, but she's still a big beautiful woman with a killer voice! I can't see how video directors and others were so cruel to her in the 80s.
Could you argue for Deep Purple not having any original members.Though Ian Paice has been there more or less from the start,technically the original drummer was Chris Curtis who founded Deep Purple under the name Roundabout.
Somewhat messy case. Curtis actually sang in Roundabaut. Then he left and Rod Evans with his friend Ian Paice was called to join.
@Andrew Hudson • Once you change the name of the band that is when you start the line up for members so Deep Purple did not exist before roundabout changed the name to Deep Purple.
You mess with the original members then it isn’t the same thing.
Led Zeppelin did it right. When Bonham died the Zep died. Look at the ZOSO album; they weren't in it just for the money. Now, I can see some exceptions, like Lynyrd Skynyrd being original & family members so whatever. But mostly, I like most I think, frown upon it. Usually people know when it's just for fame & name recognition.
@Jason Weaver What are you talking about?
If they were successful then id agree. But sometimes the lineup that makes it big and people remember isnt the original, like Queen, The Beatles, Genesis, Journey, Green Day and The Police.
@@Reyajh They were known plagiarizers.
@@deathtowrestling2518 Yea, I looked it up. Sorely disappointed 😞
Thin Lizzy and Gong are two bands that come to mind....
Holy crap, Gong has had a a lot of members....
Ann and Nancy Wilson are original members of Heart. The band was Hocus Pocus before they joined. Bands that a member still owns the rights to but doesn't play in is still an original member. Iron Maiden was formed by bassist Steve Harris, however, guitarist Dave Murray is also an original member who was brought into the band when they changed out the original lead singer before they recorded an album.
Nope, sowwy.
The Guess Who hasn't had any real roots since 1975 when Burton Cummings left the band, some hard core fans might say it hasn't been original since 1970 when Randy Bachman left.
They are still touring, but the only original member left is the drummer, Gary Peterson. Their newest album sounds good, but as far as the oldies they're nothing but a cover band now.
@@veronicagee4335 I've seen the band that tours, you're right it's a cover band. When I saw it Donnie McDougall was lead and Gary was not on drums. The lineup changes every time the band hits the stage. The Guess Who brand and franchise was purchased by bassist Bill Wallace after they broke up in 1975 and he kept the band moving with dozens of different members since then, including a couple of (real) tours with the original members.
When a band exists without any of the original members, it has crossed the threshold from band to institution.
Old swing orchestras has no original members fot decades
What's in a name? M-O-N-E-Y!
Opeth and Stratovarius come to my mind as bands with no original members remaining.
The Grassroots is another band that went through many personnel changes.
MY dOOBIE bROTHERS HAVE BEEN THROUGH 67 CHANGES....JUST KIDDING BUT THEY HAVE BEEN TRHOUGH A TON!
0:47 am I crazy or is this background track slaps.
Who does your music? Or where do you get it?
"is it still the same band if none of the original members remain?" No. It's a cover band. But it's not about "original" members. It's about the format of the band when they were relevant. The quiet riot example nails this. They became relevant with Metal Health, at that point anyone going to see them wouldn't, and SHOULDN't care that Randy Rhoades wasn't with them.
I have the Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe cassettes from 88 to 90. Trevor Rabins Can't look away 1989. Yes Union of 1991 with Anderson Howe and Rabin. Also GTRs cassette from 1986 with Steve Howe and Steve Hackett. Some might remember When the heart rules the mind. All good stuff with that Yes sound.
*Napalm Death* is an excellent example of Theseus' Ship. After they left the band, Nic Bullen, Mick Harris, and Justin Broadrick formed *Scorn* and released the album "Vae Solis". These were the three members who played on Side A of *Napalm Death's* "Scum". So is Side A of "Scum" by *Napalm Death* or *Scorn* ? Is "Vae Solis" by *Scorn* or *Napalm Death* ?
Napalm Death is like three completely separate bands with overlap in the middle of recording first two albums. Saying this as someone who never really got into their later (i.e. songs over a minute) work. I LOVE their 80s stuff. Both lineups. It's just so raw! You Suffer was my notification sound until I realized it made me twitchy. Early Carcass also have that feel though they managed to style-shift without losing all members (which led to burnout and LONG hiatus). Burnt to a Crisp is a masterpiece! Grindcore is a special genre.
Blackfoot. They're a tribute band at this point. Ricky Medlocke joined Skynyrd, and he was Blackfoot's leader. Odd. Then, Ohio Players. Most commonly known for Love Rollercoaster. Every member is dead. You rarely hear them mentioned... but they never reformed with anyone, so that's why I guess.
Um, you forgot to mention an extremely important detail of Little River Band: The Australian band is now occupied entirely by an American cast. Yes, that's right: Little River Band is 100% American now. I'm American and even this makes me sick to my stomach.
Bob Schneider...wow, I didn't know this!. As an Australian..I'm not sickened to my stomach, just didn't know. What happened to Glenn Shorrock I wonder?. Obviously Farnham has been a solo artist for many years now...
Talk about a Cool Change
Lmao So basically they are a cover band masked in the Little River band name -.Agreed it makes me sick as well
@@rustyblades2566 Glenn Shorrock has a decent summary of his later years with Clive Palmer (!) on Wikipedia. He's now 77
I had no idea what had gone on behind the scenes and only found out recently what had legally occurred-can,t believe it feel really sad that this once proud band has come to this.
My band was playing in a city in the southern US in 1990; two different sets of Drfters were playing in town that night, at two different venues. No original members (not surprised)!
If no original members are left then it is a tribute band in my opinion
So Judas Priest is/was a tribute band?
If there is not 1 original member, then yes
If I joined Eric Clapton & played with him for years in our band......I didn't join a new band after he leaves!? It's still that band!
@@shelbyavant5081 just saw Priest in '19 with Halford at the helm. They sounded great !!!
@@bindig1 What is Priest a tribute to though? Last I checked there are at least two guys on stage and three guys on record that played on the first album. Who cares who was in it before that?
Interesting video but I think what's most relevant is who, from when the band was at its peak of popularity, is still in the line-up.