Simon Jordan GOES IN ON The PL's Profit & Sustainability Rules CLAIMING It Only Benefits Top Clubs
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Simon Jordan discusses the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules.
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About time someone finally had the balls to say it in the media
Well... They were beating the drum that the rules were for the best of football and were spreading an over eager narrative that the Arab owners were a threat to football for some time. The least they could do is give this other perspective of the rules
When Manchester City said this everyone jumped on them 😂
But they have cheated
@@martindonaton3603 allegedly. The other possiblity is that they found loopholes around the rules and thus defeated the suspected objective of the rules. Therefore, a select number of clubs lobbied to the premier league which led to the charges against City. But I guess some of us don't want to entertain that alternative narrative
@@martindonaton3603🤦♂️
Even Simon Jordan is stating how much BS the PSR is... Now can the other 14 clubs actually come together and force the PL to scrap it...
Its long be suspected that all the rules (that didn't exist 20 yrs ago) were brought in to protect the more traditional" top 4 and their owners financial interest. We've however been bombarded by fear mongering of the Arab owned clubs with the media painting them as the threat to football. It's embarrassing all this
@@drep9028 The same reason that the Champions League was extended to none champions playing in the Champions League - to protect the traditional big clubs across Europe.
@@BadAppleBlues correct...very similar to the move for an expanded club world cup and a move for the failed European super league. And it's all about money...and the question is how much of that money will go into the owners pockets?!
@@BadAppleBlues now with the 115 charges pending. City may prove to either be lucky to get into that top bracket before all these extra rules slam the door in. Or...if they are proven guilty...the traditional clubs owners would have achieved their suspected objective of protecting their turf...and that would be even more sad
Did you miss the vote in April 2024 where they voted to get rid of PSR and move to Squad Cost. They move to Squad Cost for 25/26
Ohhhhhh no … it’s only benefiting big clubs? You don’t say… isn’t that why they introduced them ? To ensure clubs like city and castle would have “tough” time breaking into the top 😂😂😂
The old deluded football fans eh? If your not smart enough to figure out why it was brought in then I doubt you’ll ever figure it out. (Hint it was to stop clubs spending way to much and going bust)
@@blinkin78Can you tell me how many clubs went bust before they introduced the rule?
Cooked him 😂😂😂😂@@user-br5in4dd4n
@@user-br5in4dd4n is that a serious question….?
Yeah man it’s definitely only to protect the top clubs as proven by city’s dominance 👍👍👍
How long have Everton been saying this now it’s affecting everyone else it’s mainstream
So PSR has been in place for years but apparently only Everton “have broke the rules” and got punished twice in the same season?
Chelsea have literally admitted that their previous owner was cooking the books and they still haven’t been punished, they then went on to spend another billion pounds
Forest have also been punished and Leicester will be punished this year.
Chelsea paid a fine to uefa for that ,get ur facts straight lol.
Chelsea are about to pay the biggest fine in football history. 100m already put to the side for it.
@@russellward4624 Forest got a 4 point deduction but they wanted 12 taken from Everton, the whole thing is a farce and Chelsea admitting to cooking the books then they spent a billion pounds too
That's uefa. Prem league don't want to touch it because they are corrupt and masters is in the " big 6" pockets
so what you’re saying is, city are now in the right to sue the premier league? one of you even said it stops clubs competing in europe, this is exactly why city are saying it’s a illegal, just because you vote for it doesn’t mean the premier league isn’t breaking the law
City broke the law. lets not play around here. They systematically financially CHEATED for OVER A DECADE.
City aren't suing over psr rules. They are suing over the apt rules.
But rant away.
The bigger picture is that the traditional powerhouses...yes, Arsenal, Liverpool, ManU etc. have massive influence on the league governance and it was always suspected that they were trying to protect their turf/financial interest with rules that didn't exist 20+ yrs ago. The media jumped on the bandwagon and painted City and Arab owners as some kinda threat to football. And now they're doubling back as ManU owners don't even care to fix the roof
@@lilbaz8073 but there’s flaws in one set of rules why is it so extreme for city to believe the apt rules have flaws? Seems to be an agenda, these pundits don’t like the PSR laws and want them adjusting and that’s fine in their eyes but when city do it with the APT they’re ruining the premier league? I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy/contradiction
@@lilbaz8073it’s deleting my comment, but these pundits saying the PSR rules has flaws and needs changing but when Man City say the APT rules are breaking the law, they are ruining the premier league. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy/contradiction
Been saying this for months.
The top 6 have the best sponsorship, advertising and revenue streams through shirt sales etc and so they are in a far better position under PSR.
So basically the FA are protecting the top clubs, who already have a whole squad of top players and only need replacing one or two each season.
Every other club suffers
City fans have been saying it since it came in… no one wanted to listen!
Its not the FA. Its the PL. utv
@@mudder5 yes I stand corrected. That’s who I meant
This is genuinely an unintelligent take. How are so many people agreeing with this????
Yes there are top clubs.. Skill and top management will close the gap. If you're able to dope with money, then why not just make real doping OK?? Why should clubs that can't afford top players not be able to juice up what they have, if it's just a race to spend resources??
About time it was said loud. There's absolutely no reason why limiting spending needs to be conflated with advantaging the already advantaged, but that's what every rule change is about. Its even perverse to pretend its to enable competition when its the very thing they're trying desperately to kill
Leeds are one of the richest clubs in England, one of the traditional big clubs and Gray's grandfather and great uncle played for Leeds and won titles with Leeds, yet they are being forced to sell their best young talent in the interest of "fairness" its a farce.
Buddy no one cares. Adhere to the rules or sod off!
Only a few years back, everyone was crying clubs weren't bringing youngins through their academies, and now they're incentervised to sell them.
Clown world
@@blackkid128 < Spotted the boot licker.
Wake up mate and stop smoking whatever you do. Leeds is @#€& club playing in championship and they are not going to win anything in next decades.
Curious if you complained about other rules such as parachute payments which give teams like leeds a MASSIVE advantage unfair in the championship or do you only complain about rules which you break and negatively affect you?
Crazy how City have BEEN saying this
saying this AFTER they got caught cheating. Not like they where protesting this before cooking there books for multiple years
@@vPzWalkerx they have been saying this for the better part of a decade
People always say this to try and say City are standard bearers for fairness in the Prem, when really they want the rules gone because they have unlimited money.
These rules were brought in to stop City. It didn't work. Now the rules are hurting them they need to "change" those idiots voted for this.
@@TheNightMammoth I’m not arguing the right or wrong of why City have held this stance. I’m sure it is self serving. And I’m not suggesting there should be no form of financial regulation. I’m just pointing out that City have been saying these rules are essentially anti-competition from the day they were established, and only now that it is punishing other clubs that are trying to grow, this narrative is accepted. Whether City held this stance for selfish reasons or not, they were right.
As a Newcastle fan, im really gutted that we had to sell Minteh and Anderson as they were future stars
£35m for a guy most people would say who? is insane business.If Anderson played in any other league he wouldn't even be £5m 😂
@@Mewtwosmrmime obviously you don't have a clue
Your not allowed to compete with the top 6 , the rules are in there favour, they need to be scrapped and changed so it's fair to all 20 clubs.
City fans have been saying this for years but all you fans have been bashing us. FFP was bought into to keep the establishment.
The rules should just be all the debt goes on the owners not the club. Spent what you want
@@garethevans7773 So you want the rules changed to only benefit the small clubs propped up by Oil States , interesting
@@riffraff4 I want them changed to everyone has the chance to compete. Not just be a closed shop.
@@garethevans7773 so that the city and the newcastles of the world can outspend everyone with with their sugar daddy's
Self serving nonsense
Funny how opinions on PSR all change, when it was just Everton being fucked over nobody thought the rules were unfair
Newcastle won't be allowed to touch rhetoric top 4
Around ten years ago, every pundit and journalist was shouting about teams not bringing enough English kids through their academies.
Now they're financially incentervises to sell them as they're maximun proffit.
WTF is going on, these players are being traded for monatery reasons and not football reasons, its a disgrace!
The new proposal will be just as broken. Man City could spend 80% of £700m on playing squad costs. But a promoted team could spend 80% of £150m. So nothing will change as big 6 will just stockpile talent.
The only way to get revenues up is to have sustained success and the only way to have that is through investment which they've outlawed (nobody has built organically since Arsenal under George Graham because its just not possible in a commercial environment).
Kinda funny that City and their fans have been saying this for ages and ridiculed for it. Now that’s it’s finally hitting clubs and their fans are seeing how unfair it is, they’re waking up. It’s about time
Just get rid of ffp. It hasn’t solved anything
Teams in Europe can only spend 75% and others is 85%
The tv money is being distributed more evenly by all accounts
No because in the new rules there is a spending cap. Around £450m.
If i owned a business and the rules were set up to unfairly which limits my progress and investment, i would sue the regulators
It's sport first & foremost not a business. Maybe don't buy a club if u don't like the rules the VAST MAJORITY of clubs voted for. My bet is the vast majority would vote to keep the rules if there was a re-vote....
It's the same simon that said Man city should be thrown out of the league for suing Premier League for such biased PSR laws..😂
That's what happens when you put on the blinkers too early and then have to double back
Nope - Man City didn't sue the Premier League about the PSR laws they sued about the Associated Party Transaction rules - which are about sponsorship etc.
@@drep9028 No - you both have the shitty end of the stick with this one. Go look at what Man City are actually doing.
I have been saying this long ago .... Teams that have the richest owners in the world can not spend but Manchester United a Team with dilapidated stadium and facilities, that's also billions of dollars in debt can spend 100s of millions on tradfers under PSR...Which shows how much of a joke that rule is 😅😅😅
When will the Salary cap kick in for Prem??? The whole world is dying to see that 😃🤷
Why? You’ll find something else to cry about
You love the English
When will you get a comment cap? We are all dying to see that. 😂
The only thing that will do is increase revenue for owners. Why do we want that?
Fair play calling it out that it's actually now a cartel
The entire league is so predictable now. Arsenal and Citeh to contest the title. Chelsea, United, Spurs and Liverpool top six. Newcastle and Villa top eight. Palace, West Ham and Brighton contesting Top Ten spots. Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford, Wolves, Everton vying for mid-table. Forest fighting the bottom three for survival. And what will change. Look at Palace. They look like they might have a fantastic season ahead but, if they do and they manage to crack Top Eight, they will be asset-stripped. Then the same old status quo will continue.
Aston Villa have already strengthened our squad from last season.
Shhh, that would require media to spend 5 mins on research to know these things
About time someone said it!
Even if England DO manage to 'stink' their way to win this tournament , they still won't go down in history as ANY of the top ten best England teams.
Not like England win trophies anyways. This would be the greatest English team in history and surpass their rigged World Cup win in the 60s
@@blackkid128Behave
Put in the equal ffp restriction. Make all clubs maintain stability, that's the basic and a must. But on top of that put a max transfer budget for all clubs. 1st to 20th.. Put in a max 3 year spend aswell.. The clubs from the top to the bottom can spend the same... If you don't have it, then the club needs to invest to improve revenue to compete but it makes it obtainable. But it's got to be from uefa. Has to be international otherwise it is suicide for whatever league implements it. But if all leagues do it, it's perfect. Then it becomes only about the football, a fair playing field for all teams. Whether that means top clubs get relegated or not. New top clubs will form. That's what the fans have always wanted. But it's not what the broadcasters want.
How about everyone having the same spending limits if you want to spend it , for instance the max every team can spend on players is 50m or 100m max , but thats all teams
So city were right 😂😂😂😂😂
Unless you have a big stadium, big fan base and big pockets, it's almost impossible to be up in the top 6 year in year out. Credit to the FA for trying to help the lower clubs but dominance of the top 6-7 clubs have been established for decades.
Archie Gray to Spurs is a terrible move for him, no trophies, no chance to leave now at SPurs and Spurs record with good young players is absoulely terrible!
Modric, Berbatov, Erikson, Bale....thrtes an endless list. Spurs are a decent side that can give you experience and you can use as a stepping stone for better things.
How is it same ball if they use multiball
It was clearly set up to keep the top clubs where they are and keep the monopoly with them!
I'm still baffled how the man who put Crystal Palace into administration seems to be the mouthpiece on football finance for Talk Sport
I follow motorsports, and I have to say, it's better organised. If a team suddenly starts to run away with it, they will allow other teams more engines, tyres and time to test, in order to catch up. Why can't we do something in football where teams coming up get extra money from the top 4 sides or the PL? Just like 10/15 mill? There's so many ways you could even things out a touch. So many ideas. We just don't do this in football.
I am also a big motorsport follower, in F1 they also now have a system in place where all the teams have the same OP-EX limit (budget cap) which is low enough for all the teams to be able to reach it. Now it is down to the bigger teams to do a better job rather than simply outspend their competition. The effects of this are just starting to be seen a few years after they introduced it, with Mclaren now able to compete as they have good people and can spend as much developing their car as the likes of Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull. They previously had a decent budget, but nothing like what those 3 teams had. In addition to that, F1 teams are now profitable enterprises because they can’t spend themselves into oblivion.
It can be done if football has the will to do it, but I doubt they will.
As for safe guarding teams from rogue owners sending them to the wall, it’s simple, new owners should be made to put up a very large bond that is held until they sell the club or to be used if the club falls into financial difficulties. At least then you would ensure that new owners have the wherewithal to do it.
@@doubled1978 exactly! There's are things that can be done to make football more equal but tbh, I don't think that's what they want. Hence FFP/PSR
Does anyone know where Jim and Simon were situated at all?
The Rules are the rules form your own league if you can't live with them
Well said. PSR is admitted to be protectionism for the Big 6 Cartel. Thank you 👍
Gee.. its as if Man City and their fans were *RIGHT* all along
Yeah because Manchester City are looking out for Villa and Everton.
People don’t mind that city spent what they’ve spent if they can afford it
it’s the fact they’ve lied & cheated about what they’ve spent when others stayed within the rules
Fake sponsorships deals through shell companies & paying managers & players through them etc
The probem with Man City was they spent more than any other club, what Villa and Everton are asking for is to spend not even what the 6th highest spender does. See the difference?
Gee it's as if Man city have tried to DEFLECT from their 115 charges what do you know
@mattwarner8273 No I don't.. all these rules are not to stop clubs going bust but to prevent competition in the league. Why do Man city (and fans) *want other clubs to be able to spend their own money and make the prem league more interesting* ... yet the other clubs are trying their hardest to *STOP* them so the same status quo happens year after year... thats what PSR (and FFP) is really about.
Don't forget.. none of these rules were about when Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, and Man united were bought by foreign investors..
Just sayin 🤷
Only problem with that Simon is that clubs might be tempted to change ownership more often so then they wouldn't have to comply with PSR
We got through to him, lads. He'll be sporting a Jack hairstring in no time.
weird, when it was just Everton he was playing a different tune.
Its not often I agree with S.Jordom. but by God he nailed it on the head their. Ffp, protects the established breakaway 6, no more, no less...
The biggest predictor of who wins the league in every division in the world is the wage bill.
Psr should be geared towards insurance if an owner fucks off and leaves the club in the lurch. I don’t know how but someone more financially minded could have good ideas.
Until then even if smaller clubs get rich owners who want to push them on it will never happen.
The rules are not fit for purpose look at forest punished for being £20 million better off on the Johnson deal in the name of sustainability it’s stupid.
And it just protects the current establishment teams. If the owner has the money let them spend it. The big teams only have this advantage because they’re the big teams when these rules are introduced. In twenty years forest or Newcastle palace etc could be selling ten million shirts in Asia if they’ve been league contenders and playing in the champions league for ten years by then.
Also these rules treat players like meat. You have to go to this club you don’t want to where you might not play because we have to comply with a nonsense rule to make sure the smaller teams can’t compete
Finally, London media tell the truth. FFP/PSR is nothing but a shortsighted Cartel Protection Act that damages chances in the Champions League.
More than that, it prevents COUNTRY OWNED CLUBS from buying all the best players.
This psr and ffp is sadly killing the premier league and needs to be scrapped these clubs who need players have to sell the best players and the big clubs snatching them up so the smaller teams get smaller sadly
Crook misrepresenting some facts here. Newcastle offered boyhood Liverpool fan Anthony Gordon to Liverpool in a deal which would include Jarell Quansah leaving Liverpool and going to Newcastle. Liverpool rejected the deal, not wanting to part with Quansah. After that, any potential deal fell through.
You know that how?
It seems last season forest recieved a less points deduction because they showed they tried. by offering Gordon if we failed we could have showed we tried for lesser points deduction get it now ?
@@kennyw218 We tried to offer Almiron out in January though, so there was no need to offer out another player.
The Toon & Villa will never be able to challenge the usual top 6 if these PSR laws remain.
UEFA's PSR laws aren't that much better - they would still favour the top 6 with the largest revenues.
We will. We will just be clever. Villa have set the path for you lot to follow 🫶
The bubbles gonna burst, like Wall Street in ‘29.
Are you sure you handled the ball. Don't they play with multi balls. Could be ten balls used in the game. They may have even scored with different balls. 😀
Oh my god, Simon Jordan painted city fans as conspiracy theorist when they said this, now he agrees with what the city fans have pointed out for many years. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Newcastle could afford to strengthen their team. They weren't allowed to is the point, now client journos spinning tge moans of man utd etc because they can't cherry pick on the cheap.
Newcastle to sue prem
Isn’t this what Man City were saying, everyone jumped on them
Usual morning for jim talking about having balls that aren't his in his hands
Man City have been saying this for over a decade.
So according to Simon, the PL have 14 "TOP CLUBS"?
The match ball?! Wow, just the content i want...
Someone’s a bit salty about villa getting CL 😂
Without these rules all you will do is replace the top revenue generating clubs with the clubs with the richest owners. You'd be replacing Man Utd with Newcastle Utd, the West Hams and Bournemouth's of the world still wouldn't be able to win the league.
Basically change the rules so man city dont get upset.
Honestly reading the comments here and listening to Simon Jordan... The UK is in big big trouble. Apparently it's "unfair" to put spending guardrails in place for football, because some clubs are already wealthy and the ones trying to catch them MUST spend beyond their means.
Idiotic mentality.
The fact is, PSR is working great. That's why clubs are getting fined.... Learn to live within the rules and deal with it ffs. SKILL AND GREAT MANAGEMENT HAS STARTED TO MATTER AGAIN AND IT'S GREAT!!!
Try telling that to Newcastle United and any other team daring to challenge the red cartel.
How many times does Jim White bang on about where he is and for some reason what time it is in germany? Just get on with it!
The premier league will loose its product based on the poor competitive league where even if the top teams spend and do badly they will get a free pass.
Every man wants to keep his crown jewels alex
The 105 million hasn’t changed since it started so with inflation it will probably be about 200 million start there and every 3 years put it up with the rate of inflation
Why would it change? They are profit and sustainability rules. Not we can lose loads of money rules.
The idea is for clubs to be sustainable.
@@lilbaz8073 it’s been 12 years since this has come in and clubs have got to shop on a 12 year old budget I’m sure you would not want your wages to stay the same for 12 years when the prices go up regularly that why we need it especially when a decent player wold cost you 50 million easy
Revenue has also increased with inflation, so why should it be increased?
@@blink4122 that depends on your revenue who’s revenue would you rather have City or Luton there’s a huge difference
BUT BUT BUT When Man City said this all of you crucified them!!! Double Standards!!
Alex crook knows everything 😂😂😂LFC 😂😂😂
And look how teams in the EFL are treated. Basically near impossible to compete now. Absolutely madness. Game is run by idiots
smaller teams are always crying, never can be satisfied
Well done Jim, you nailed it - Its a cabal.
It’s the obvious that there trying to stop clubs breaking through we the toon have rich owners but can’t spend having to sell young prospects to appease ffp
Someone explain to me how PSR is benefitting Liverpool WHATSOEVER. We are 5th richest club in the WORLD, yet we cant even consider some of the players United, City etc buy.
Could be worse, Newcastle has the richest owners in the world but are being FORCED to sell their brightest prospects to comply with PSR rules.
Clubs are being held back from competing.
"Big 6" protection rules.
30m and 35m for who 😂 nah there must be sole money laundering going on
That's it Simon, see you can be funny😂
thank f and about time! this is corrupt as f. you need to look into how these "top" clubs have made the other clubs vote in these systems. Who really owns CP? How many American owners is in the league now?
Was it benefiting Arsenal when they sold all their best players to city and United?
Give United a rest Alex ffs 😂 United this United that. We dont care,especially when they are linked wih everyone
Hang on, so we're all of a sudden accepting Man City's viewpoint on this?? "Cabal"?? Sorry, no, not having this nonsense.
That plant looks like it's been watching Southgates England
Dying on its feet? 😂
Archie Gray will be another Djed Spence.
What took him so long to say it? It's obvious
psr is a joke.....someone tell me how it protects smaller clubs
Oh my word. This is why i always say some of the most educated people are the most stupid.
How long has it taken Simon Jordan to see the obvious.
Jim ! a life long Rangers fan ! Tell us about the sabotage Jim , is it just gambling fraud Jim ?
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You sad person
@@Jimmybarth Says the one, who liked his own comment you sure have one happy life. 😄
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Good chatties thank you chaps
Balls
It's safe to say none of us know or understand the rules.. most of all that idiot talksport roll out who used to work for man city as if he's the financial master.
Simon is a weird dude.. He complicates himself every time.. Today he says this, tomorrow something else
Simon has an accident. What type though?
You can't tell me that if PIF bought Sunderland instead that Newcastle fans would still be advocating getting rid of the rules. As if everyone else outside of this mystical "top 6" never benefited from the protection of the rules.
Who ?
It's a total fiction that these rules were brought in only to help the top clubs stay there. It was voted on and agreed by 14 members of the league, so, at a minimum, 8 other teams not in the traditional Big 6, but likely more. Fact is, the Brentfords and Brightons have even mote interest in restraining certain upstart clubs with new, rich owners like Villa and Newcastle, but fans of these clubs and others are running around saying there's a small cartel at the top keeping them down. Nonsense. PSR is an imperfect way of correcting a major mistake from years ago, which was state ownership of clubs.
You are either deluded or a liar.
Just because those other clubs were stupid doesn't change the fact that's exactly the purpose of FFP and PSR. The other teams bought into it because of racism. They were sold a bill of goods that this will stop the scary arabs. they were too focused on Arabs and not how it effects them.
Generally agree with most of your premise,but 'upstart clubs' like Villa and Newcastle have always been historically bigger,wealthier and more successful than 'minnow teams' like Brighton and Brentford,even before the flood of new money into AVFC and NUFC.🙄
Top 6 being protected once again man it’s a disgrace I’m gonna stop watching the premier league I’m tired of all the lies