The Bass Plate gives drummers the power to adjust their kick beater strike zone without compromising feel. Check out this simple, innovative solution at Sweetwater 👉 imp.i114863.net/a1V95o
Thanks to Nick and Sweetwater for making this great video! Bass Plate is designed to do three things: 1) Improve the drum's sound by getting the pedal off the hoop. When you clamp a pedal onto a drum’s hoop, the weight and pressure on the wood hoop reduce the drum’s overall resonance, its low-end frequency response, and especially its mid-range frequency response. Bass Plate overcomes this muting effect by getting the drum clamp off the hoop (and onto the Bass Plate), and it gives the drum more presence, power, and sensitivity - even if you like a lot of muffling in your drum. 2) Give lateral adjustability to the pedal. For example, if you get your beater height where you like it (for power and feel), but the beater isn’t striking the drum’s head where you prefer (distance from head's center), Bass Plate allows you to move the pedal a bit to the right or left so you can keep the beater height and get the tone and attack you prefer - either dead center or off-center. 3) Protect the drum’s hoop. No more “pedal rash.” This helps protect your investment. By the way, Nick D. is just as nice and helpful in person as he is on these videos. Sweetwater has been great to work with!
Great plug for a great product. On install it's actually easier to remove the resonant (front) head, NOT the batter head. This way, you can adjust the depth positioning of the Plate with the batter head (and BD pedal) in-place. The manufacturer recommended steps are: 1. Remove the bottom two batter hoop claws only (not the lugs, yet). 2. Remove the resonant/front head. 3. Remove the bottom two batter side lugs.* 4. Roughly position the BP over the lug screw holes and then re-place the bottom two batter lugs (do not yet tighten lug screws fully, so you can adjust it's depth position on the drum). 5. Once final position is found, fully tighten batter lug screws, replace lower two batter claws, and replace the resonant head & claws. *Why go batter, then reso, then back to batter side? Because if you do step #2 first, you will expose the reso bearing edge to damage (i.e. the hard floor). If working on a soft carpeted floor, maybe this is not so much an issue.
Thanks to all the drummers who have reached out to us to learn more about Bass Plate! Bass Plate improves a drum's sound, gives lateral adjustability for the pedal, and protects the hoop. A drum with a Bass Plate installed fits in any case (hard or soft case) with room to spare. Bass Plate is in use by many great drummers on tour and in the studio. (And the portion of this Sweetwater video with the red Ludwig drum does a great job of showing how Bass Plate is meant to line-up with the drum's hoop!)
@@riffinrob7231 Hi, Bass Plate comes in two models, for 22” and 20” drums. And those two models also fit on 18” and 16” drums, respectively. With those four drum sizes covered, there are no plans to release any other models, but we’ll let you know if that changes.
Hey so I'm worried about the hole that's drilled in my bass drum for the lug to get out of round. This would be due to the Lug sticking out. Therefore if you don't tighten it all the way it's going to move around and if you tied it too much you will break the lug
The 22-model Bass Plate may be used on 18" drums, too. The inner pair of slots on the 22"-model (which are designed for a ten-lug 22" drum) happens to line up well with the lug holes on an eight-lug 18" drum.
Show my question would be the part of the lug that goes into the hole drilled in the bass drum is sticking out. I think it would ruin the whole if it kept moving around because it didn't have the insert from the log inside the hole
Good question. We have taken a close look at lugs like this and found no evidence of movement of the screws. Most lugs do not extend into the drum's shell. For example, DW's lugs have protrusions, but they extend only as deep as their rubber gaskets. In theses cases, there is no metal between the lug screws and the shell material within the screw holes. As for lugs with protrusions, like some Yamaha lugs, the screws are held so firmly in place that there is no movement. Lugs like this just end up functioning like DW lugs when a Bass Plate is installed. We have received feedback from drummers using kits with lugs like this (for example, Yamaha bullet-style lugs that are on the Live Custom Hybrid drums) for years with Bass Plates installed, and there is no movement. Once a Bass Plate is installed, it stays in place; this is thanks to the design of the Bass Plate's wings, which match the curvature of the drum's shell and have full-coverage 1mm rubber for grip and protection.
@@Zildjian_DW Hi E, yes, a drum with a Bass Plate will fit in any case. The Bass Plate is slim and stays close to the shell, and it has been tested with many hard and soft cases; it fits perfectly with room to spare.
Hi B GE, we've tested Bass Plate on many models of drums, and the angle of the tension rods is not changed much at all because the wings of the Bass Plate (which go under the lugs) do not lift the lugs very much. Of course, you're welcome to message us if you have any questions about the particulars of your setup.
Hey, flashiestfreshman. Thanks for your interest. Unfortunately that won’t fix your issue. You will still need the spurs to be intact so the bass drum doesn’t move forward. Hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Hi Cody, with center-mounted lug kits, the lugs are probably too far back to reach the Bass Plate's wings. There have been some Bass Plate users with kits with unconventional lug patterns who have drilled two holes (one in each area where a conventional lug would sit) and then attached the Bass Plate using a nut/bolt/washers combination.
Hi Emanuele, if the Sonor docking station is able to bite onto a hoop thickness of 1/4", then it should work fine with Bass Plate. Bass Plate's lip, where the pedal attaches is about 1/4" thick. Message us if you have any questions.
I don't see how this changes anything about the "strike zone" at all. Maybe it saves your bass drum hoop over time, but there a lot of hassle free ways to do that, that are faster, less expensive and just simpler all around. This is fixing a problem that isn't really a problem.
I think it would definitely change the feel. As a guy who owns many different kicks in different sizes, I've found personally what feels good on one drum doesn't always translate to the next with my specific technique and I think that has to do with the curvature and thicknesses (or variances thereof) of different hoops. This product seem like it would mitigate that issue by making the docking area completely flush, or parallel with your pedal's clamp.
@@ridenm7748 Many Bass Plate users have Bass Plates on their 18" and 16" drums because the 22"-model Bass Plate is also compatible with standard, eight-lug 18" drums and the 20"-model Bass Plate is also compatible with eight-lug 16" drums. Bass Plate has proven very popular with professional drummers. We get a lot of feedback from session drummers in LA and Nashville who are very knowledgable about frequency response in their bass drum sounds, and Bass Plate gives them the fuller sound that they (and producers) are seeking.
@@ridenm7748 Many Bass Plate users have them on their 18" and 16" drums. The 22"-model Bass Plate is compatible with standard, eight-lug 18" drums, and the 20"-model Bass Plate is compatible with eight-lug 16" drums.
At average beater heights on most pedals, the beater head hits pretty close to center on 22" bass drums, and way closer than on an un-lifted 20"... I would think on a 24" you would already be hitting at or very near dead-center without any lifting, no?
The Bass Plate gives drummers the power to adjust their kick beater strike zone without compromising feel. Check out this simple, innovative solution at Sweetwater 👉 imp.i114863.net/a1V95o
Thanks to Nick and Sweetwater for making this great video! Bass Plate is designed to do three things:
1) Improve the drum's sound by getting the pedal off the hoop. When you clamp a pedal onto a drum’s hoop, the weight and pressure on the wood hoop reduce the drum’s overall resonance, its low-end frequency response, and especially its mid-range frequency response. Bass Plate overcomes this muting effect by getting the drum clamp off the hoop (and onto the Bass Plate), and it gives the drum more presence, power, and sensitivity - even if you like a lot of muffling in your drum.
2) Give lateral adjustability to the pedal. For example, if you get your beater height where you like it (for power and feel), but the beater isn’t striking the drum’s head where you prefer (distance from head's center), Bass Plate allows you to move the pedal a bit to the right or left so you can keep the beater height and get the tone and attack you prefer - either dead center or off-center.
3) Protect the drum’s hoop. No more “pedal rash.” This helps protect your investment.
By the way, Nick D. is just as nice and helpful in person as he is on these videos. Sweetwater has been great to work with!
@@bassplate 🙌🙌
Mr. Nick - you are so good at your job.
LETS GO!! Sweetwater is absolutely TOP NOTCH always! 🥁🥁🥁
I have an Evans bass drum lifter now but this looks so much better. My only question is whether my kick will still fit in its case properly or not.
Hi Daniel, yes, the Bass Plate is designed so that a drum will fit in any case --- hard or bag --- when a Bass Plate is installed on that drum.
Great plug for a great product.
On install it's actually easier to remove the resonant (front) head, NOT the batter head. This way, you can adjust the depth positioning of the Plate with the batter head (and BD pedal) in-place. The manufacturer recommended steps are:
1. Remove the bottom two batter hoop claws only (not the lugs, yet).
2. Remove the resonant/front head.
3. Remove the bottom two batter side lugs.*
4. Roughly position the BP over the lug screw holes and then re-place the bottom two batter lugs (do not yet tighten lug screws fully, so you can adjust it's depth position on the drum).
5. Once final position is found, fully tighten batter lug screws, replace lower two batter claws, and replace the resonant head & claws.
*Why go batter, then reso, then back to batter side?
Because if you do step #2 first, you will expose the reso bearing edge to damage (i.e. the hard floor). If working on a soft carpeted floor, maybe this is not so much an issue.
No foot cam for the demo? Would've like to see a close up in use
Thanks to all the drummers who have reached out to us to learn more about Bass Plate! Bass Plate improves a drum's sound, gives lateral adjustability for the pedal, and protects the hoop. A drum with a Bass Plate installed fits in any case (hard or soft case) with room to spare. Bass Plate is in use by many great drummers on tour and in the studio. (And the portion of this Sweetwater video with the red Ludwig drum does a great job of showing how Bass Plate is meant to line-up with the drum's hoop!)
I'm just about to outfit the BP-20 on my drum... Thanks for making this!
@@aaronwatter That's great! Your 20" bass drum will sound its best! Reach out to us if you have any questions.
Hey! I have a 26" drum. Will it be able to work?
@@riffinrob7231 Hi, Bass Plate comes in two models, for 22” and 20” drums. And those two models also fit on 18” and 16” drums, respectively. With those four drum sizes covered, there are no plans to release any other models, but we’ll let you know if that changes.
Hey so I'm worried about the hole that's drilled in my bass drum for the lug to get out of round. This would be due to the Lug sticking out. Therefore if you don't tighten it all the way it's going to move around and if you tied it too much you will break the lug
Make this for 18 inch drums pls.
The 22-model Bass Plate may be used on 18" drums, too. The inner pair of slots on the 22"-model (which are designed for a ten-lug 22" drum) happens to line up well with the lug holes on an eight-lug 18" drum.
Show my question would be the part of the lug that goes into the hole drilled in the bass drum is sticking out. I think it would ruin the whole if it kept moving around because it didn't have the insert from the log inside the hole
Good question. We have taken a close look at lugs like this and found no evidence of movement of the screws. Most lugs do not extend into the drum's shell. For example, DW's lugs have protrusions, but they extend only as deep as their rubber gaskets. In theses cases, there is no metal between the lug screws and the shell material within the screw holes. As for lugs with protrusions, like some Yamaha lugs, the screws are held so firmly in place that there is no movement. Lugs like this just end up functioning like DW lugs when a Bass Plate is installed. We have received feedback from drummers using kits with lugs like this (for example, Yamaha bullet-style lugs that are on the Live Custom Hybrid drums) for years with Bass Plates installed, and there is no movement. Once a Bass Plate is installed, it stays in place; this is thanks to the design of the Bass Plate's wings, which match the curvature of the drum's shell and have full-coverage 1mm rubber for grip and protection.
Will the drum still fit in a hardshell case?
I wouldn't want to go through the process of
Removing the head when I go from gig to gig
Nope
For that reason ... I'm out.
@@Zildjian_DW Hi E, yes, a drum with a Bass Plate will fit in any case. The Bass Plate is slim and stays close to the shell, and it has been tested with many hard and soft cases; it fits perfectly with room to spare.
The tongue of the BP only sits about 1.25" away from the drum hoop, and the drum will still fit into most any case with the BP attached.
Doesn't it cause the ring clamp mounting screws to go in at a slight angle in to the shell hardware?
Hi B GE, we've tested Bass Plate on many models of drums, and the angle of the tension rods is not changed much at all because the wings of the Bass Plate (which go under the lugs) do not lift the lugs very much. Of course, you're welcome to message us if you have any questions about the particulars of your setup.
I have a broken kick spur. Could I use this on the reso side of the kick to help out the one spur I have?
Hey, flashiestfreshman. Thanks for your interest. Unfortunately that won’t fix your issue. You will still need the spurs to be intact so the bass drum doesn’t move forward.
Hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Though that might work, we would instead recommend replacing your bass drum's spur. Or, you could get a hoop-mounted spur like DW's SM2224.
@@bassplate Thank you for replying I'll be sure to look into the DW spur and compare it with your product
I’m curious to know if this works with kick drums with center mounted lugs (ex the Ludwig clubdate) I’ll have to message Ben tomorrow.
Hi Cody, with center-mounted lug kits, the lugs are probably too far back to reach the Bass Plate's wings. There have been some Bass Plate users with kits with unconventional lug patterns who have drilled two holes (one in each area where a conventional lug would sit) and then attached the Bass Plate using a nut/bolt/washers combination.
Hi everybody! Did someone try it with Sonor pedals fitted with the "docking station"?!
Hi Emanuele, if the Sonor docking station is able to bite onto a hoop thickness of 1/4", then it should work fine with Bass Plate. Bass Plate's lip, where the pedal attaches is about 1/4" thick. Message us if you have any questions.
@@bassplate Thank you a lot!!
I don't see how this changes anything about the "strike zone" at all. Maybe it saves your bass drum hoop over time, but there a lot of hassle free ways to do that, that are faster, less expensive and just simpler all around. This is fixing a problem that isn't really a problem.
I think it would definitely change the feel. As a guy who owns many different kicks in different sizes, I've found personally what feels good on one drum doesn't always translate to the next with my specific technique and I think that has to do with the curvature and thicknesses (or variances thereof) of different hoops. This product seem like it would mitigate that issue by making the docking area completely flush, or parallel with your pedal's clamp.
It makes a difference for smaller drums. But they don't make one for 16 or 18 inch kicks.
@@ridenm7748 Many Bass Plate users have Bass Plates on their 18" and 16" drums because the 22"-model Bass Plate is also compatible with standard, eight-lug 18" drums and the 20"-model Bass Plate is also compatible with eight-lug 16" drums. Bass Plate has proven very popular with professional drummers. We get a lot of feedback from session drummers in LA and Nashville who are very knowledgable about frequency response in their bass drum sounds, and Bass Plate gives them the fuller sound that they (and producers) are seeking.
@@ridenm7748 Many Bass Plate users have them on their 18" and 16" drums. The 22"-model Bass Plate is compatible with standard, eight-lug 18" drums, and the 20"-model Bass Plate is compatible with eight-lug 16" drums.
ridiculously expensive.
No 24?...... I'm out
At average beater heights on most pedals, the beater head hits pretty close to center on 22" bass drums, and way closer than on an un-lifted 20"... I would think on a 24" you would already be hitting at or very near dead-center without any lifting, no?