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Rewatched because I just bought these for my SRT. BEST Install video on the internet. Thank you guys!!
Thank you! So glad it helped!
Got so nervous when saw the widow maker scissor jack. Yikes, glad you had it blocked after that, and mentioing it in the video, SOOO IMPORTANT. ALSO, CHALK THE TIRES! Neeeeever use a scissor jack unless in an emergency, at least dont go under with it in place, they are so dangerous. Lost a neighbor by a car falling on him, true story. I spend lots of time under my vehicles, but safety first as as you said. Be carefull all. Happy trails!
For all the newbies, please use jack stands. You don't want to loose a hand or your life, if the jack fails.
Dude your head looks amazingly polished...
I'm so jealous...
🤣🤣🤣
Looks like the van build is coming along nicely...
Slow and steady:)
SUMO springs, way to go. You're a good supporter for Sumo Springs. CUPS OF COFFEE YAY!! Those are new ones Dave, the old ones had been on you van QUITE awhile before you changed them out. Dave is sure a handy guy. GOOD safety points. Helpful Pistol. Good instructions Dave. Great to do this now before the van gets all road dirty. Nice install music Irene. YAYYYYYY!! Poor Pistol needs attention too.
If we end up with a promaster this will be a must do on our future build. 😊
Thx for posting
Akos Tozser If we are near I’d be more than happy to help!😁🍺
Thank you
You’re welcome
ANOTHER OSCAR WINNER IT IS SO EXCITING TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO WATCH YOU GUY'S ACTUALLY FILMING AND BEING INVOLVED IN CUSTOM BUILDING YOUR OWN CAMPER AND TAKING US ALL ALONG WITH YOU. SO FOR THAT I THANK YOU GUYS EVER SO MUCH IT MEANS A LOT. THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO...............LATER GATER............CAREY ON.
Thanks Jay! Hadn’t heard from you for a while. Hope you’re still on the mend and doing well!
HAVE HAD A COUPLE SET BACKS BUT NOTHING BIG JUST LIFE ON LIFES TERMS. YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH YOU HELP IN TIMES LIKE THESE. LOVE YOU GUYS AND LOVE YOUR VIDEOS. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU DO...............JAY
@@CareyOnVagabond I SEE YOU GUYS ARE ON YOUR WAY TO 10 K WONT BE LONG NOW GREAT QUALITY VIDEO AND MOST IMPORTANT YOU GUYS NEVER HAVE DRAMA, AND CHAOS.
Thanks for this video. About a week ago I was trying to understand these things and their necessity. Your video arrived just in time and has been saved for spring time (haha, double pun).
Spring time😆😆👍
That was interesting. You mentioned Safety First and that's my motto no matter what I do.
This was a super practical video. Stuff like this is not Insta sexy but super useful LOL -- great video.
And now, back to sexy! 😆😆
Thank you for very informative video.
i so agree.... i am so glad to have my sumo springs. oh to be working on a new van... it looks amazing !
Once again it is one of the best upgrades you can do to a van. Well done, Carey on. :-)
I can't thank you enough for your wisdom and even though I'm not from the show me state I really appreciate watching the educational aspect of your van build. Thank you so much for sharing. Safe travels my friends
Thank you😊
Fantastic. I can't totally do this. Thank you. I never thought it would be that easy actually.
Glad you found it helpful!!
Thanks for this video. I'll be saving up to get these as I dislike that sway feeling of my van & see this would help.
Good job Dave on the install,good filming job Irene. Loved the Pistol "Gut Alarm"...
Dave you are strong as a sumo wrestler. You did a great job. Butt behind a strong man, there is always a strong women. Well done Pistol haha. No, i mean of course you Irene.Very nice to see you all. And say hallo to the magic man him self, mr G.
You’re killing me tonight Morten!😂😂
That was strangely satisfying to watch, like I had fixed something, lol. Now I understand Pistol's reaction to you under the van, "hey, watcha doin under there, it's lunch time!" :))
Really enjoy your " how to" videos. They inspire me to attempt DYI upgrades to my 1996 Class C Jayco. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks☺️
Very informative and another great video. I really love your videos, thanks for taking us along.
To improve handling, get rid of the factory shocks and install Bilstein shocks all around!
Will have to look into those😉
They were the best money spent on curing poor handling. A stiffer front torsion bar helps too. I had a Ford high top camper which handled terribly until I put on the Bilsteins. I put them on my Winnebago too to correct soft, spungy ride, too much lean on corners, and being blown around in the wind
i think that was a good idea using the jack that comes with the van. i was pleasantly surprised to find the one that came with my van worked quite well.
Thank you for your great videos!! I know this is an older video but I assume people like me are still finding and watching these install videos. I originally installed the rear sumo springs when the van was empty and used both spacers. At that time it was barely touching and made a significant difference in the ride. After building out the van and adding significant weight the ride was extremely rough. I just removed one of the spacers and it made a tremendous difference in softening the ride
Thanks! Good to know:)
Great video. It is great to learn how to fix or upgrade mechanic side of a van. That is a great niche for van dwellers.
"Minimum viable product" is all too often the mantra followed by many manufacturers. The difference is evident from the full contact that the rear Sumo's make once the suspension becomes loaded. The original bump stop is exactly that. It stops the axle from colliding with the frame. Otherwise, it travels, uncontrolled, through it's range of motion. The SumoSprings, on the other hand, damp the suspension compression throughout. So, with full contact, and helper springs, the van simply doesn't rock as severely. Nor does the rear end violently bounce.
As for the fronts, I can only imagine how much tighter the whole ride and maneuvering experience must be with the modified spring rate that the front Sumo's provide.
Lastly, it's crazy to think that the RV manufacturer blocked the jacking point!
Thanks John. And yes, to block the jack access with no explanation of an alternative option!😳🤷♂️
The original are BUMP STOPS. Only function is to keep suspension from hitting the frame/bottoming out. Been on everything since cars were invented.
Sumo springs are designed to contact sooner to support weight. Its function is an additional spring.
Only concern is, is the frame designed to take additional load at that point over time?
A very helpful video!
Lol, I used to call videos like this: “Tool Time w/Dave”! Now with your Van build in progress, I’ve changed that to: “Tool Time w/The Carey’s” 😂
Team work makes the dream work!😆
@@CareyOnVagabond that is a great motto. Maybe I use that?
Roger Brekas Feel free! We weren’t the first to say it but I have no idea who to actually credit it to.
Great share, video and how to! MUCH appreciated, so now when I can get a Van again, I will know better! Should have done this on my last RV, as it wallowed much! All the BEST to both of you! Cheers from PNWest :)
Glad you liked it! Cheers!
Wow how the fur baby has grown, comparing the two videos!
She has!😁
I like to simplify upgrade...something I may just do on my own promaster. Sweet deal!
That`s good info. I`m sure you wouldn`t put on new ones if the old weren`t working well.
Looking good!
Appreciate your sharing this....I plan to use promaster to tow 4500 lbs 22' vintage camper. With this enhanced springs, this should help with towing. As I understand promaster 3500 has the capacity to tow up to 5,100 lbs. I plan to tow all the way from WI to west coast. Do you think Promaster can handle it?
Wish I could help but I have no experience towing with the promaster. Sorry🤷♂️
At 15:15 I actually lifted my timmies (coffe) and cheered with you guys 😂 that feeling of achievement is just priceless 😘😂😂
Hello you two, just found your channel, knew George a longer time.
Nice to see you working on the van, like it. Will start to built mine soon and see some good
ideas! Keep up the good work.
Greating from the Netherlands. (Thats a long way to drive)
Thanks and hello to you way over there!
More firm is good for stability like sport cars but to carry, it's mean more shocks and vibrations for everything inside. The filling of people are opposite of objects inside.
Nice tutorial :)
I must revisit some zip ties I got a while back lolol...
I noticed the different soap application method before you mentioned it and thought that was a genius idea. Did you choose not to drop the strut for lack of access to the top of the strut?
It just seemed like the simplest option. 🤷♂️😁
We are enjoying the new van build. Do you think Humble Road would give a discount if we buy through you all! Haha, Thanks and Carey On.
You could always ask him!🤷♂️😁
Now fit a couple if electric motor movers to rear axel snd now you have emergency AWD
Zip ties, hmmm....Well at least they wont be in the sun. I am putting these on my van soon.
When I was a kid I had a 66' Ford pickup and put wood blocks in the springs to give it a little lift. Do these devices basically do the same thing? I want to lift my Yukon up just a little so I don't drag the steps on rutted up back roads.
Brandon
These items will not provide any lift; just dampen the compression rate of the springs.
No, they help the ride but are not for adding any lift.
Great video. Why not remove the tires on the front ones? Seems like it might make easier. Thanks again. 🙂
Thanks! It probably would be a bit easier with the front tires off. 🤷♂️😁
Remember to breathe when you’re working.
Thanks for the video. Now hurry , today is 10/12 to Kohls. They have t shirt on sale with 2 pistols on it. Sale probably ends today, not sure , but it looks good. Hermina
I’m gonna have to go see if I can find one! 😬
Do you have any upgrades for driveability? Such as the
Engine power for going up grades?
Or unwanted down shifting on the slightest down hill?
I recently purchased a midwest autpmotive designs legend rs3 which i really like but i would like to help the driveability issues.
And i will definetly do this upgrade to the rear and will see about the front.
Thanks guys. Enjoy the videos
Sorry, but I don’t know of any upgrades for those issues. Not to say there aren’t any though.🤷♂️
Thanks for the video… I did this on my 2020 ProMaster today (forgot the lock-tight so I had to do it twice)😢 I have a question though. I saw another video where they pulled one of the pucks off. Have you had any issues since you installed these that would indicate they are too tight? He was afraid the taller unit would make it too stiff I guess. By the way, the newer front coil units no longer come with zip ties.
We had no issues with this van and since then (2 years ago) have built a custom van on a Promaster chassis. Installed them the same way and are still super happy with them.
Nice job
You have 3 Years Roadtrak Zion SRT, what can you tell about Pro Master powertrain reliability
Thanks !
82K miles. Other thank a bad spark plug last year we’ve had no issues.
Just a little curious here, since you started with a new van, did you order the van with limited slip rear axel? I see a fair number of videos on YT of people with these vans not being able to make it up steep hills during heavy downpours on paved roads or on some of the BLM lands getting stuck on rock roads. On occasion being pulled out by vehicles with a bit more weight and dually tires. Limited slip would have kept most of them from having a problem. Cost more but worth it.
Promaster is Front Wheel Drive only!
Great job! Thanks for the update. Are you guys renting that space?
No we are working with A builder in his space. Check out “Humble Road”.
Could you have put the zip ties on loosely before you put the sumos on? And then tighten them after you have the sumos on?
I don’t think so. But then it’s been a few years;)
Hello. what is the result after one year? It is effective?
Greetings from Barcelona
👋👋 in Barcelona!
Yes. We have since sold this van and built a new one on the 3500 Promaster. Most of the build is on our channel. We installed the same sumo springs on this one a year ago and can’t imagine not having them.
This is unrelated but I was watching one of your old videos and you showed a bag that you put on the roof that contained a paddle board and other things. I was wondering where you got the bag and if it's waterproof.
I can’t remember where we got that or the brand. It was supposed to be fairly waterproof but it was not even close. Sorry. I wound up just securing a paddle board on the roof by itself. Looking forward to the new van.😉😁
I'm putting sway bars in the back and sumo's in the front instead of sumo's all the way around any idea what that would do for performance?
No clue 🤷♂️
Sumo springs is on my want list when I get my Class B RV. I got to wondering if I got a 4-wheel drive would I need them? If so, I wondered if the directions show that or talk about it. Since you've done it a couple of times now maybe you know? BTW, it's looking mighty fine. I forgot if you've named her yet ;-). Also, I wonder how many windows you'll have to look out besides up in the driver/passenger area. I know it's great to have all the insulation but worry about claustrophobia on those raining inclement days. could be that's just me and doesn't bug you. Kisses to Pistol. Thanks!
We have a couple windows being installed.😉😁
That was so simple even a man can do it .. lol .. I wish I had a van to build .. Would love one of the ford dually vans .. But my pocket doesn't allow for me to do anything
I could let you practice on mine, you know?
I'm curious why you'd want a dually?
@@dreamingrightnow1174 I just would like the dually for better stance and stability
Hi guys 👋. That was an excellent instructional video. It’s good to see the products that you found so useful in your first van brought over to this build. Do you have a target finish date for the van build Ms Taskmaster? Lol
Great informative video. I’m sure it’s going to help many pro master owners. Van build looks like it’s coming along. Looking great. Love how Pistol wanted to weigh in 🐶🚐
Dave and Irene, Nice job!
Total Van Height, has the Sumo Springs increased to total van height, when measured from the ground to the top of the van body? My Promaster has 1.25 of clearance to fit into my garage, so I am very sensitive to additional height. My 2020 2500 159" Promaster (new with nothing in the back) is 101 5/8" tall. I am concerned these new Sumo Springs bumps stops will make my van too tall for my garage. Can you tell me what how much height the new bump stops would add, if any? I know your may be loaded so the comparison may not accurate, but I am just looking for an idea since I could find that detail on the Sumo Springs reseller's site. from what commenters have said it sounds like 1/4 to 1/2 inch, just curious if you know.
I will wait on the front until I decided to put in better shocks.
Great video I like the seeing the before and after video. Thanks for all you do!
On our Roadtrek in believe it raised the rear an inch and the front a half inch. On our. On our new van build we installed them before we added anything so we didn’t find out. I’m sure it will depend on what weight you have added. Good luck.
Carey, can a Promaster owner do the Sumo springs mod and do a 3 inch lift together, or will one exclude the other. I really need the answer to this question as I'm doing both in the next month, hoping both procedures will work together. I would appreciate an answer from any Promaster owner.
Sorry but I really don’t know. Check out the Ram Promaster Forum. Should pop up in a google search. Good luck.
Merci pour la démonstration , êtes vous satisfait du produit sumo ?
If I translated this correctly you are asking if we are satisfied with the sumo springs.😉 Yes we are👍😉
Oil those threads on you screw jack. I would also do the lug nuts on your wheels with an anti seize compound. They hammer those on with Air tools and you won't get them off when you have a flat roadside. Go to Harbor Freight and get a half inch ratcheting 18" breaker bar. Then a 21mm deep impact socket from Auto Zone. You won't regret it.
www.harborfreight.com/12-in-drive-18-in-ratcheting-breaker-bar-67957.html
Yikes! Those things are expensive! Yellow $gold$ springs
#LiveYourPassion Great Video for install !!! Camerawomen did a fantastic job !! #FindYourFreedom ❤️ 🌞 🚐 🇺🇸
🐾 🐾 Luv Pistol !! ❤️
I might miss that, what material is it to be used for insulation?
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Carey On Vagabond Thanks!
How's Pistol's eye? She looks good!
She’s doing great! Thanks☺️
how long did it take to order both sets? I had to wait 2 months for delivery
Dang! We got ours right away on Amazon a few months ago. They do seem to come in and out of stock.🤷♂️
try getting those off after 13 years
No George....
I was so impressed with the rear bumpers springs, and the front coil bumpers looked ok, but tiny zip ties. unbelievable Come on Sumo.. figure out some other way
Get the name of the product in the video title too.
I'm all in and with you on the new rears, but front spring assisters reduce the life of your springs. now that your all about to hit them keys telling me I'm an idiot, I'll explain, sit back.... if you hit a large hump or dip in the road, and it compresses your spring by 3inches, that's 3 inches spread over all the springs length, once you restrain 1/3 of the spring with an assister, now that 3inches of compression is only spread over 2/3rds of the spring, making that 3 inches on the remaining spring 'feel' like 4.5 inches to it... this is a cheap upgrade, just buy higher-rated springs and do it right. you can all hate me now, but working on vehicles for 40 years, I'll stick with what i have seen with my own eyes.
Appreciate your input and experience. Thank you!
@04:50 pls, don't undersell yourself
Pno