Lucy Letby’s Fake Medical Examination
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- She was a nurse they all trusted but Lucy Letby had a deadly secret. Working in the neonatal intensive care unit of the Countess of Chester Hospital, Letby was in charge of looking after premature babies. After a string of unexplained deaths and mounting suspicions, the doctors banded together to have Letby removed from the unit and the police called to investigate. But Lucy Letby insists that she is innocent. Is she?
This episode focuses on the first attack on patient I and a medical examination the prosecution suggest Lucy Letby falsified along with the lies Lucy told to the patient's mother.
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If Lucy Letby is let out I would like to think that she will have plenty of work as a nanny and babysitter to all the people that she thinks she is innocent.
@@timlodge8267 Good one!!
Twisted! Are you a "narcissist" ?
Ignore her innocence or guilt and focus on the court process. If you were incorrectly accused of a crime, I'm assuming you would want the process to be done correctly to prove your innocence? The court that accused her of being guilty was a terrible one that did not follow due process. THAT is the issue.
@@MGJS71 Sarcasm.
@@sportysbusiness where was the court process not followed? Can you elaborate?
Thank you John for your dedication to this case, The court transcripts are NOT cheap so Thank You for the added proof of the Case 🙏
The police and prosecution are not used to dealing with the level of scrutiny they got over the trial of Letby and I dare say they are alarmed that it is still increasing and people piping up include experts and even some lawyers. Manchester Crown Court has said it will be £100,000 for the complete transcripts. So no one who wants the complete transcript because they think the verdicts may be unsafe is ever going to see the complete transcripts.
Has he explained how he got them?
If anyone still has doubts, it was the description of those babies screams as related by parents/other staff, screams like nothing anybody had heard from a newborn before, that reached in and tore out my heart. The suffering and agony inflicted on those babies pierced my heart and enraged me and from that point on I saw Lucy Letby with absolute clarity.
With sadness - I agree.
The screams of the babies mean you have no doubt she did it? How?
@@kimmettfarlston-chew because she was the only one present. The investigation into the deaths of those children was exhaustive. And the hospital backed her all the way. I don’t know if you’ve bothered to take the time to read the entire transcripts of the trial or not, but Lucy’s own testimony is damning. Every thing that she blamed for being responsible for the childrens’ deaths was ruled out. Her only witness called to the stand was a plumber. And as not one of those babies died as a result or even had any type of bacterial infection her defence of cross contamination was eliminated, along with many other defences, like short staffing. And as someone who worked in the medical field myself, who takes home handover sheets? No one, that’s who.
@@virginiaviola5097 the fact doctors and statisticians are questioning this case should tell you how bad her legal representation was. The preeminent guy on insulin said the conclusion they drew from the insulin tests was inaccurate. I don't know if she's innocent or guilty but the fact serious people are doubting things is worrying.
@@kimmettfarlston-chew have you read the court transcript? The ‘experts’ now questioning things weren’t involved in the case, are merely expressing opinions without any evidence. I am soooo damn sorry for those 7 dead babies, other harmed babies and their parents that the deaths of their children, and the parents *do not doubt* what happened to their children, to have to have this public support of ‘poor Lucy’ that this woman has more sympathy and more concern directed towards her than dead children. Society is f*cked in the head, and psychopath is exactly where she belongs.
Question for registered neonatal nurses- how many of you think she is innocent? For context, I work in obstetric theatres and we work very closely with our NNU colleagues and it was big talk. Not one of us think she’s innocent.
yeh its called narcissisism
I've not heard a single nurse say that they think she's innocent. My sister is adamant that Lucy is guilty
@@Greylobster I agree, my brother is a nurse on a children’s ward and they all think guilty
Not a nurse but have a lot of true crime reading. (including much on the Toronto baby deaths case). First of all, no neonatal nurse is going to admit to colleagues or anyone else that she ever writes notes that are anything but absolutely true as to times ect . Lucy Letby is probably guilty of at least some of the things she has been convicted and given umpteen whole life terms for, so she is in the right place, most likely. Lets face it, almost everyone who is tried is in actuality basically guilty whether the jury find them so or not. But the prosecution had it all its own way because in a ten month trial heavy on medical diagnoses, Letby's lawyer called no expert witnesses(!), did not explain she was writing her negative feelings on post it notes to vent them per therapist's advice, or dispute the characterization of some deaths as unexpected but other deaths in the same mortality spike on the unit as not unexpected natural causes (the jury was unaware there were other deaths well in excess of what would be average ). So it is not _as_ certain that Letby is guilty as this channel is putting out. That a baby gets ill better then ill again may be unique in in Doctor _B's_ experience but that does not mean the phenomena has not been not been seen by other doctors, or is marker of someone in the unit harming a baby. It probably is though, but the doctor couched their opinion is a way that sounded more clear cut than it actually was. There are a couple of doctors' statements in the case that are similar, such as the one about the flitting rash by a junior doctor, who did not mention it in his notes or at the inquest. The evidence is variable in quality some things are a bit chain of reasoning like this stuff about commas and holding Letby to the fire with the times ect in her notes. Other testimony is very difficult to explain indeed for a believer in Letby's innocence. Then again she was very young, the most experienced/ qualified nurse there, doing wee small hours shifts and working an extreme amount of hours, so could have got lazy/ negligent and a report indicated some others (not nurses) were in that unit in the time frame of the spike in deaths. There is also the point that she was full time as some other nurses there weren't, and Letby did the legal max shifts some weeks, so anyone who worked the number and wee small hours shifts she did would be expected to have a high proportion of the unit deaths on her shift by the law of averages.
If you listen to her police interview clip ( they should release the whole thing , public interest etc , but this is Britain. ) she looks and sounds drugged. The way the guy on this channel recounts the way she delivered her answers ,and he went to the Trial and saw her in person , she has no affect.....I truly believe she was heavily medicated. She was known as an outgoing party girl , and quite assertive at work. In the interview , she is barely there. I'm not saying who medicated her , it may well be her own GP given the stress she was going through. Other possibilities are there though. Also it's nothing but a circumstantial case , where the judge leaned heavily in favour of the prosecution. Lucy wasn't there for half the babies who died. So who was killing them?? I can't say she is 100% Innocent , but given the evidence presented , I would never have been able to find her guilty. Also if the Jury had been told about all the other babies who died , when Lucy was not working , I doubt they would have found her guilty. Also her defence team were awful , they had to be either incompetent or something far more sinister!
WHY is EVERYONE fighting for the baby killer lately?🙄disgraceful
@@Swansong321 it’s so bizarre
There is an industry for it. "Innocence fraud" is what Roberta Glass calls it. The same sort of thing happened with the West Memphis 3 (they are still convicted of the murders, but got out on an Alford(?) deal/plea, basically the 3 did their time, but the lawyers got them this deal, and they got out a bit earlier and can say they are innocent), Knox's own DNA puts her there at the crime scene at the time of the crime), but again lawyers get involved.
I think that Letby's parents have a lot of money, and are prepared to spend it all on over turning the sentence. The only appeal she had was based on the weakest technicality)
@@sargentoinkwinson4888 some how I doubt her parents would have that kind of money
what’s very concerning is despite what seems to be a very strong case a lot of people who are not simply ordered or armchair detectives have expressed concerns .
@@account01289 they clearly haven’t.
Letby was found guilty by the courts. The New Yorker article, banned during the trial, raises concerns about the evidence brought forward by the prosecution. These concerns do not point to guilt or innocence. They raise important points around cut and pasted statistics, cut and pasted notes, and an expert witness who had been dismissed from testifying in a previous case because his expertise was unreliable and faulty.
Leaving emotions aside, these verified facts uncovered by noted respected journalists should send chills down every citizen's spine in the U.K. and at the very least, it should prompt people to question those who serve and work as experts in all areas of life.
This scripts they rely on is unreliable because they had already arrested her, put ther through a so called therapy, her mental state was no good, emotions running hight, thoughts clouded her mind feeling of guilt which can happen to any medical person who nursed patients. That is what they sue to convict her?
Anyone of reasonable intelligence, who has followed Lucy's trial, would have no doubt that Lucy is guilty - including me.
Unfortunately it seems that Lucy is being judged on her innocent 'girl next door' looks, rather than the facts of this horrible case.
I agree. I followed the first trial right from the start and attended the retrial, girl is guilty as sin. The only reason the choir of her supporters is so loud is because those who believe she's guilty got justice. we're quiet now.
@@Plumplum888 I can understand why someone would think that, but that wouldn’t take you very far, unless there was any doubt.
@@Andrew-zu2gj that doesn’t really make any sense. this woman was convicted of horrific crimes and apparently very strong although circumstantial evidence. we are not at the a few thousand nutters on the Internet stage we have scientists other doctors and prominent journalists with members of parliament all asking for the case to be carefully looked at just a year after this strong conviction, that in itself is incredibly worrying.
@@Robert-vw3od The noisey nutters are the ones who present misinformation and rumour to these alleged experts and MPs. They ask all they like - they never attended a 10 month trial as the Jury did.
@@Robert-vw3od Listen to one of the stats scientists' on The Trial podcast last week. She knew little of the cases, questioned issues that were detailed in the trial (eg distribution of other staff apart from Letby at the scenes) and claimed it wasn't known how the suspicious deaths were separated from expected/natural deaths - it was), hadn't read any detail of the appeal document that's only 58 pages and complained about aspects that were the defence's job. So I disagree that anything we've seen so far from CTs gives any cause for concern.
Thank you again Jon. You always make the evidence so much clearer 😊
I’m genuinely worried now that she will be excused. There are so many people now who think she is innocent, it’s madness.
Do you think she could be then? It would look pretty stupid if she wasn't after all the long court case
@@jill677, nah she's guilty, as proven in a 10 month long court case. Next question...
If false evidence was presented then it's an unsafe conviction. Looks like some of it was.
@@martinbrandom2654 what was false evidence?
Genuine questions - according to whom and what? Apart from the door swipes which have been accepted by all as genuine mistakes? Hardly surprising the odd minor mistake in a sevetal year investigation. If you watch the police Operation Hummingbird video on thdir investigation, they accumulated half a million items of evidence. A lot of it was disclosure I believe.
But she's more likely to get charged with more crimes. @@martinbrandom2654
Wow, these fictitious notes are damning
I feel like everyone saying she is innocent is also saying they'd be happy for Letby to look after their own tiny, vulnerable, defenseless baby-and I can't get my head around that.
@@NikNak500 I have the exact same thoughts. And it’s beyond belief.
@@NikNak500
But you'd trust her colleagues? Please. The whole unit was downgraded. LL just became the patsy.
@@InhabitantOfOddworld Go back to licking windows, it's all your IQ can handle
@@InhabitantOfOddworldThe unit was downgraded because of the murders she committed.
@@jaredburgess8381
No, because of standard NHS failings. She's a scapegoat.
Thank you again Jon amazing reporting ❤
It’s obviously very hard for people to believe that the court could have got it wrong and that Lucy might have been scapegoated as a whistleblower. It’s just too difficult to take in. We know that there were problems in that Unit. Who stands to gain from Lucy being found guilty ?
Thank you! ❤
Interesting that the Consultant Neonatologist at the Liverpool women's hospitsl says that they dont worry about 'self correcting desaturations' which was what Lucy Letby was looking for while 'doing nothing' according to Jayaram. That was contested by a nurse in the retrial of baby K but we have contrasting opinions here. Who is correct? There is reasonable doubt
There is a lot of factors that would decide if self correcting desaturations where significant or not. So there is no right or wrong each case is very different. I don't understand why she would be looking for desaturations, they would be blatantly obvious for any neonate who was on a monitor. The problem here is people are reading transcripts but don't have the knowledge to interpret.
Just some direct evidence here from a witness:
At some time shortly after 3.30am, the nurse allocated to look after Baby K left the unit to go and speak to the baby’s parents. At the time she left, she was content that the baby’s condition was stable. Letby was left to look after Baby K in the allocated nurse’s absence.
When the allocated nurse returned at about 3.47am, the baby was being treated by Consultant Dr Ravi Jayaram.
Dr Jayaram told the court that he had become increasingly concerned about Letby, following a spike in the number of baby deaths in the unit. When he realised that Letby was on her own with Baby K, he went into the nursery to reassure himself that everything was okay.
He found Letby next to the cot. The baby’s condition was rapidly deteriorating. Letby could see the baby was desaturating but was doing nothing to help her. Neither had she raised an alarm or called for assistance. It was established that the baby’s breathing tube had been dislodged meaning she was not getting the support that she needed from the ventilator.
The baby’s condition deteriorated on two further occasions over the next few hours. On both occasions, the baby’s breathing tube had again been dislodged. Evidence was presented to show that Letby had again been present in Baby K’s nursery at both of these times, despite the fact she had other babies to look after in a different nursery.
@@grantmitchel No, you’re not understanding the evidence and quite why I don’t know. The witness says he saw her standing by a baby who was struggling and she did nothing. The breathing tube was out of her mouth. It happened twice more.
You do realise the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming? Have you actually bothered to read the appeal report and try to understand it? Or do you rely on sound bites from you tube warriors who are not qualified to analyse any of this and who haven’t read the available evidence ?
@@grantmitchel but how can you come to a view on the credibility of a witness better than the jury who saw ten months of evidence, the judge and the appeal court judges?
Also, what do you say to the overwhelming circumstantial evidence against her that was wide ranging ?
That witness is lying. Look at the speed of his responses to interviewers and the level rehearsal and over thinking that goes into his replies. He is clearly not voicing a real memory which we experience as a sensation in the body. His body language is not supporting his story.
@@bernadettesavage4786 how do you know that he is lying? How are you better placed than the jury and judge who were there in person and heard his evidence ? How are you able to judge his body language? A witness who gives a clear answer of course has rehearsed it - that’s normal. Especially in this case. Most importantly, what is his motivation for lying? He had nothing to gain but a lot to lose because he didn’t push his concerns at the time - which was an adverse admission by him and so why on earth would he lie about this when it made him look bad?
And of course, Letby told the truth I assume you think? Like when she contradicted herself, said she couldn’t destroy the many confidential medical records of dead babies she had stolen but then admitted she had a shredder?
The evidence against her was strong. For some reason you don’t want to accept that.
It’s likely she had Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
@@bernadettesavage4786 so your logic is if a witness responds quickly to a question they are always lying? That’s a ridiculous comment and shows zero understanding of the process. It shows someone who wants to believe Letby is innocent - probably because she doesn’t look like a monster and because you have trust issues in institutions in this country are gullible and believe what you’re told by social media warriors - and you refuse to look at anything that might challenge your preconceived view.
Letby was a monster, her behaviour demonstrated a psychopath, if you actually look at it the evidence is clear.
Let the nonsense begin again, great vid Jon the I Love Lucy Brigade will be all over this.
People have unrealistic expectations. They expect the courts to be perfect with a conviction only coming from 100% certainty, which is not available in the real world.
@@seancidy6008 Not in the I love Lucy world anyway
@@lennyrussell8954 You are 100% certain she is guilty.
@@seancidy6008 indeed I am especially after what is coming out of the hearing currently and I will say this if Letby wasn’t who she is then a lot of potential supporters wouldn’t exist and all the disgusting nonsense would not be causing the parents of the deceased further heartbreak.
@@lennyrussell8954 Half of the deceased in the time Letby was there are attributed to Letby. The other half of bereaved parents of babies who died in a excess death spike in the unit want answers too, but the commission is not investigating _those_ deaths. There were over 60 incidents looked at, and it is not at all clear the way they whittled it down diagnostically was more than mere opinion (from a chief expert who has long been retired). There were over 20 failings in proper procedure at that unit reported. I suspect doctors are quicker to call in the police on a young nurse than they are on another doctor.
Fantastic Jon, absolutely brilliant ❤
Thank You Jon, again awesome work❤
For the algorithm. Thanks for all your monumental work in getting the truth out.
It took years to gather pain staking evidance . 10 months of a trial that saw the found guilty ... it was all agreed evidance she was asked numerous times throughout the trial if she wanted to change any thing n she said NO..
What a insult to all the parents..
Her new barrister should be struck off.. where was he when all this first began no where in sight .. she had a excellent legal team who had nothing to work with.. letby herself couldnt get herself out of all the evidance against her.. shame on all who think shes innocent ...
What about Michael Hall?
Thank you Jon.
Thank you ❤.
Let's hope that the intern from the Guardian watches this - a literal transcription of the evidence as voiced by you, Jon - and retracts her article with a full apology to the families of those babies Letby murdered and attempted to murder.
I've just looked her up and it seems that Felicity Lawrence is an investigative journalist who has worked for The Guardian since 1995.
@@cupofteawithpoetry That is NOT a qualification - ALL Guardian journalists are suspect.
She blocks X post replies. Says absolutely everything you need to know.
@@cupofteawithpoetry Oh dear.
@@uingaeoc3905 Why?
It would be really nice if she would finally confess so as to shut everyone up.
Excellent 👌
If you’ve had personal experience of narcissistic personality disorder her actions will be familiar to you. The martyr poor me pity play .. the arrogance .. the lack of boundary recognition.. the revision of history..the gaslighting ..the triangulation with the babies and the fuel she gained by the emotions around a death. The keeping of trophies is also really dark 😢
She's been extensively evaluated over years. During the most distressing points of her life.
She has not been diagnosed with any personality disorder. She has PTSD
@@Bitchforks what distress?
@@realitychick4502 wow
@@realitychick4502 what distress?
Are you serious?
1) Being formerly charged and held on remand - not because she is at risk of absconding, but because a large number of the general public want to attack and kill her. Look it up, she was placed on remand for her own safety and even in jail is on segregation, by itself an extraordinarily difficult thing for any human being.
She was held on remand for the longest time of anyone in the UK's history aside from terrorist suspects.
Imagine how scared she is for her parents?
2) Learning of every single charge and accusation as they were accumulating on the rap sheet.
3) Her first birthday, first Christmas behind bars. Her parent's birthdays etcetera
4) When she was first pictured in media reports and knowing everybody's gossiping, everyone knows.
5) Learning who is speaking against her. For example, Doctor A, who promised he would defend her and her practice to anyone who was critical, then testifying against her.
6) Realizing she has to sell the home she had only just bought to pay for her defence.
7) Having to agree to surrender her two cats to the rspca, where she got them from in the first place. Having to accept she will never see them again. That must be absolutely heartbreaking. They were clearly a large part of her life and she obviously loved them very much.
8) Going to trial, and enduring two weeks of cross-examination by a KC who was extremely aggressive.
You are aware I hope that she has been diagnosed with ptsd and is on medication such as antidepressants, anti-anxiety medication and sleeping tablets. Just before the trial began she was, according to prison hospital reports given to the court "incoherent. She can't speak."
9) Being found guilty of murdering 7 babies and trying to murder 7 more. Being given 14 whole life orders with the newspapers going wild with descriptions of her "*throwing the open the gates of hell and the stench is all around us*"
For a moment, just imagine those of us who do not believe she is guilty are correct.
Just for a moment. She has never even had a speeding ticket. She is ridiculously prim and proper, sticking to the book on everything. The idea of prison terrifies me and I have been arrested and done dodgy things in the past. She She had not and I cannot imagine the curiositive effects of all of this on her psyche. Not only that this started when she was 26 she is now almost 35 I believe. If she is innocent she has lost the fertile tile years of her life a long with her mental stability. She won't be able to regain either of those things unlikely at least her dad will be dead by the time she is v
Even if she is guilty, someone who is capable of such crimes would have such supreme confidence in themselves and such intense narcissism, as you describe , the events I just listed would destroy them too.
It's just in that case case, neither of us would care. But it doesn't mean it wouldn't have been distressing.
@@realitychick4502 what distress?
Are you serious?
1) Being formerly charged and held on remand - not because she is at risk of absconding, but because a large number of the general public want to attack and kill her. Look it up, she was placed on remand for her own safety and even in jail is on segregation, by itself an extraordinarily difficult thing for any human being.
She was held on remand for the longest time of anyone in the UK's history aside from terrorist suspects.
Imagine how scared she is for her parents?
2) Learning of every single charge and accusation as they were accumulating on the rap sheet.
3) Her first birthday, first Christmas behind bars. Her parent's birthdays etcetera
4) When she was first pictured in media reports and knowing everybody's gossiping, everyone knows.
5) Learning who is speaking against her. For example, Doctor A, who promised he would defend her and her practice to anyone who was critical, then testifying against her.
6) Realizing she has to sell the home she had only just bought to pay for her defence.
7) Having to agree to surrender her two cats to the rspca, where she got them from in the first place. Having to accept she will never see them again. That must be absolutely heartbreaking. They were clearly a large part of her life and she obviously loved them very much.
8) Going to trial, and enduring two weeks of cross-examination by a KC who was extremely aggressive.
You are aware I hope that she has been diagnosed with ptsd and is on medication such as antidepressants, anti-anxiety medication and sleeping tablets. Just before the trial began she was, according to prison hospital reports given to the court "incoherent. She can't speak."
9) Being found guilty of murdering 7 babies and trying to murder 7 more. Being given 14 whole life orders with the newspapers going wild with descriptions of her "*throwing the open the gates of hell and the stench is all around us*"
For a moment, just imagine those of us who do not believe she is guilty are correct.
Just for a moment. She has never even had a speeding ticket. She is ridiculously prim and proper, sticking to the book on everything. The idea of prison terrifies me and I have been arrested and done dodgy things in the past. She She had not and I cannot imagine the curiositive effects of all of this on her psyche. Not only that this started when she was 26 she is now almost 35 I believe. If she is innocent she has lost the fertile tile years of her life a long with her mental stability. She won't be able to regain either of those things unlikely at least her dad will be dead by the time she is v
Even if she is guilty, someone who is capable of such crimes would have such supreme confidence in themselves and such intense narcissism, as you describe , the events I just listed would destroy them too.
It's just in that case case, neither of us would care. But it doesn't mean it wouldn't have been distressing.
The prosecution said Letby was "caught virtually red-handed" by Dr Jayaram when he entered nursery one on February 17 and saw her standing over Baby K’s cot "doing nothing" as the baby’s blood oxygen levels dipped.
How did you get hold of the transcripts when they cost £100,000?
@@lauraj8429 Good point.
I was thinking the same thing ??
@@lauraj8429 you can buy testimonies separately he's only got Lucy's right now
He not got the transcripts of the full 10 months, just certain sections such as her cross examination and the closing statements. More will be coming and that's why Jon is so awesome!
@@Andrew-zu2gj He did follow the case from the start I will grant that.
God himself could come and tell me she might be innocent and I still wouldn’t believe she didn’t do it.
After seeing a couple of videos, one by an actual barrister, questioning the verdict, even after they've been pointed toward this channel, I'm beginning to think that the Free Letby team have been greasing palms.
Beginning?! Her parents are lobbyists
Really? What lobbying have they done?
Sorry, could you explain your comment
@sargentoinkwinson4888 Where is the direct evidence that don’t involve plucking theories out of the sky?
@@beans2744where’s your proof of this?
I cant quite understand why a baby would be moved between sites so frequently.
Thank You 🙏🏾
If the baby had 1 "yellow seedy stool" then it's absolutely possible the baby had another 1, this case is a sham to be using that as absolutely evidence
Something still stinks about this whole case ... iv watched everyone of these vids aswell as the ever growing list of the fresh ones .
Why is there such a push lately for re trial ?
Her new legal team wouldnt take this on if there was zero chance??
Aswel as the people backing her . Why put there reputation on the line ?
It doesn't add up ...
Fantastic coverage John 🥰
The transcript says lucy Letby recorded in her notes a fake doctor examination at 15:00 hours, thus pretending the child was declining. How was it established this examination didn't occur, was it based on other notes or door swipe data, or the memory/testimony of the doctors?
That's what I'd need explained. Is it impossible a doctor did examine but didn't record it or something of the like.
@@kimmettfarlston-chewbecause it was most probably only in her notes. Not in doctors or baby records etc.
I can attest to the failure of medical and nursing staff writing factual and timely notes in a Tasmanian hospital. Also to the loss of documentation from my file. Therefore why can’t this be a fact in Britain.
The very fact we have a substantial amount of people asking difficult questions about someone who was overwhelmingly convicted within months of an apparently overwhelming conviction is a very concerning. on the ground In Chester today in bars and Cafes, you have people expressing doubt . don’t know her and I don’t particularly want to know her but - if you were involved in a serious car accident on Parkgate Road today, the question you’ve got to ask yourself is “ how quickly can they get you to arrowe park”
if you know then you know. this is not going to go away.
@@Robert-vw3od So are all these people in Chester accusing the victims' parents of lying? None of these deaths were natural nor were they from poor practice. What are people saying caused the deaths and did they all follow the trial? Genuine questions.
@@judewhitbread2394 nobody I’ve met has talked about parents of children who have tragically died or been murdered telling lies. they have the explanations they were offered when they left the hospital by Doctors working at the hospital.
Thank God there is one channel that actually covers the transcripts and doesnt talk rubbish. Thanks, Jon, because the misinformation is getting worse. She'll be a Florence Nightingale by Xmas
Do you think anything will come of all of the conspiracy theories?
no
A waste of the british tax payer's money, perhaps. SNAFU there, as per. Letby will forever remain behind bars' until she goes to Hell after her death. She's "toast".
No nothing at all , there is no evidence for an appeal , she is guilty as hell and will stay where she belongs .
The only thing that has came from it so far is an assault on someone who gave evidence or something.
Operation Hummingbird was advertising for experienced detectives to transfer into Cheshire Police to work on the case for up to three years as recently as this June, and one of the questions seeking to be answered by the public inquiry (which starts on Tuesday) is something along the lines of "what was known and what should have been known about Letby's previous work as a nurse when she began working at the Countess of Chester"
She's going nowhere
No bias here? So how come your channel only presents transcripts of the cross examination (prosecution's case) in video after video?
It irritates me a bit that this was claimed to be made using official court transcripts (and the £100'000 charge you would have needed)... I now have to post a comment that highlights this which both feeds the algorithm sadly
It's interesting that the prosecution relied on the post mortems to exclude NEC but disregarded the findings of the post mortems which found natural causes due to prematurity in favour of Dr Evans 'evidence' when it suited them
Evans is a scoundrel
Todays online Guardian article explains a long and very sigificant list of failings within the CoCH neonatal unit at the time in question. It's a very interesting read for anyone interested in hearing BOTH sides of this story.
I read some of it and know of Lawrence. She blocks replies to her X posts. What decent journalist does that?
She's been writing pro Letby articles for weeks. None have any detail, valid points or credibility.
A while back she printed a number for whatsapp texts for anyone had info for her.
She doesn't name any sources and her allegations are vague and third hand.
There are holes all through her articles. And as Jon said, Letby had time and opportunity to tell the court the context of her notes and never once mentioned a counsellor (Lawrence's previous article).
She's printing all this rubbish due to the inquiry starting Tuesday.
I agree but not from the Guardian. I read it for years but it turned into The Social Worker.
Balanced journalism 😮??????
Which journalist?
@@lennyrussell8954 This is all prosecution no defence,
@@Comfortzone99kinda hard to defend someone that is guilty.
@@itsmeagain7825 There are elements of doubt here with no smoking gun evidence, and it is kinda hard to believe that someone who had just managed to get a mortgage for her first home. would jeopardize it all randomly killing her charges, considering she had been an intensive care baby herself with a precarious chance of survival.
@@Comfortzone99Nailed it! Letby must be innocent because she had a mortgage.
Priceless 😂😂
Are you presenting any coverage of the defence your programmes are all for the prosecution
He has already posted the defence if you could call it that.
Lucy Letby “I am Innocent”
ruclips.net/video/lOVbIyA8jGE/видео.html 3.5hrs of the defence here
You are so correct I noticed that sad fact!
@@crazyfool4325 One million pounds worth with the plumber extra.
If I remember correctly, the only defence was the faulty plumbing.
There can be a certain degree of detachment to the victims due to the nature of the trial itself. The parents and surviving victims are unnamed with no pictures of faces we can put to them.
I wonder how much that has played into, in a otherwise sophisticated country and almost without exception - the nations media to be so comfortable with actively stoking the fire and whipping frenzy into the idea of doing everything that can be done to secure the release of, if anyone needs reminding - a multiple time baby killer.
Even allowing for any true reservations, for leading public figures and representatives to not only do so with respectful discretion but advertise their uncertain views on daytime television and every other article. The optics alone look terrible.
It has gone beyond the due process afforded to us all and is beginning to feel like some horror inspired parallel timeline that you can’t believe is actually happening.
younger generations haven’t got a chance if this is the subversive backward society they have to learn their morals from and grow up in.
Just shows the degradation of society in which we are all currently living through
@@1gpman Edited for being needlessly pessimistic.
Puppies and unicorns instead.
A Unidog.
If all of a sudden the deaths stopped with her not being there. Then it's a bit sussed thay got it right.
It took years to gather the evidence.
Poor babys. Rip.
The unit was reduced from "Level II" to "Level I" around the same same time LL was removed from the unit, meaning the unit was no longer dealing with the most at risk babies anymore anyway.
Even judges are saying this verdict is unsafe. If I were a parent I would wish the real culprits were found out. Same scenario with the Dutch nurse who turned out to be innocent. Are we not all entitled to a fair trial, or is it a case of fund a patsy and lock them up?
Exactly.
If the verdict is unsafe, then the parents don't yet have justice. I want justice for the parents and the babies - but true justice can only be determined from a fair trial. She hasn't yet had a fair trial in my opinion.
She won't be free ever because she murdered those babies and more and attacked many others. Don't forget the facts stop speculating
Why hasn't she?
@@jill677 The article in today's Guardian (online) explains everything much better than I can.
reasonable doubt burden of proof etc
She’s as innocent as Tom Hank’s lol
So the presenter is an expert and unbiased ? Personally I am of the opinion this is a load of biased rubbish - remeber the first jury could not reach a decision
still no proof bias upon bias
There are serious question marks over the testing of insulin evidence used in the court case
The author of the only paper used to cite air embolism rejects the evidence cited, and states that Dewi Evans has completely misused the research
This formed part of an appeal, but the Court of Appeal, in its wisdom, denied Letby the right to appeal
The central prosecution witness offered his services to the police directly, but claims that he didn't realise that the police were investigating a crime
Police literally used swipe card data back-to-front in the original trial
Witnesses changed their story in court, during the case, on more than one occasion
Statistical evidence used in the case has been trashed by statisticians, with one describing it as an object lesson in how not to compile and present statistics
The primary prosecution witness has already been criticised for providing evidence lacking in objectivity in court, with a judge describing his contribution as “worthless”
The chart that suggests Letby was on duty at all times, a central plank of the entire prosecution case, has been completely discredited
The so-called confession note cited by the police is clearly not a confession note, and instead the anguished soul-searching of a hugely damaged woman. Statements that could be used to confer guilt in this note were taken literally, without context, while the many statements that indicated the opposite were all ignored
Literally all of the other notes collected by the police are completely consistent with this, and provide zero evidence to support anything related to the prosecution case. The prosecution showed them in court anyway
The text messages shown in court demonstrate literally nothing (I know because I've read them all). They're not even salacious or flirtatious! They support absolutely nothing that was alleged in court. Police concede that all of the other text messages they collated were uninteresting
The coded diary, which is brilliantly uncovered by the police (although they are unable to explain any details regarding the code itself), has been revealed by nurses to be completely benign and normal practice, even providing explanations for the supposed murder code
The police state that there is some amazing pattern that they have uncovered related to the nondescript text messages and completely innocent diary, but have been unable to divulge any details related to this (perhaps because it's completely without foundation)
Both the police and prosecution claim that handover sheets were trophies, but also note that they found several of them in a bin bag in Letby's garage, on the verge of being thrown in the rubbish
Investigating officer Paul Hughes states that Letby wanted the police to find the items of evidence, presumably including those that were in bin bags in the garage that could easily have been thrown away
Hughes also made the incredible claim that Letby enjoyed the process of the court case. The Guardian reports that the trial is delayed due to Letby having suffering from PTSD and having a breakdown, which is so severe that she literally cannot speak
There have been countless lies told and misrepresentations circulated in relation to Letby. Perhaps one of the most grievous is the assertion, which is now widely believed by millions of people, that she showed no emotion regarding the deaths of babies. In fact, it was widely reported that the trial had to be interrupted because Letby broke down in tears when discussing the details of one of the baby's deaths
The vast majority of handover sheets found at Letby's house have nothing to do with the case. The only one that was in any way treasured was her first ever handover sheet, which she kept in a keepsake box with a rose. This wasn't mentioned in the court case, where accusations were made that she kept other handover sheets as trophies
The police openly described the information provided by the consultants who reported Letby as the “golden thread” in the case, even though they should have been under suspicion at the time, and their account shouldn't have been automatically accepted
When speaking with ITV, another one of the so-called gang of four consultants stated that the police accepted their explanation for the apparent spike in deaths within ten minutes. Elsewhere, the police have claimed that they kept an open mind to all possibilities
At the time of Letby's conviction, the impression was presented to the public that Letby was under serious suspicion at the time that she was reported to the police. In fact, she had been cleared by all internal processes, and was six days away from going back to work on the neonatal unit. If it hadn't been for the so-called 'gang of four', she would have gone back to work as a neonatal nurse
When speaking with The Observer, the police openly conceded that Dr. Brearey, one of the original gang of four, was actively assisting the police with their investigations, eighteen months after he had been instrumental in reporting Letby to the police
The 'Operation Hummingbird' documentary released by Cheshire Police is littered with embarrassing errors, biases, and clear procedural issues. This documentary only featured contributions from the police, and was intended to show the constabulary in a favourable light
Parents of deceased children appeared in court to give evidence. The aforementioned documentary strongly implies that they were told by the police that someone had killed their children. Evidence that they provided from recollections, prompted by this, was then used in court as evidence
In the retrial related to Baby K, the judge told the court that the jury shouldn't make assumptions based on Letby's previous convictions. The prosecution was then allowed to reference this continually throughout the court case, clearly prejudicing the jury
The jury in the retrial all had ample opportunity to absorb months of scandalously one-sided, scathing and condemnatory media coverage of Letby. But they were expected to forget this, while also being denied the right to read the New Yorker article because it could have prejudiced the court proceedings
Evidence was given against Timothy Evans and he was innocent
That was very sad. But it was a 3 day trial and 40 minutes jury deliberation. Also a terrible police investigation and the actual murderer was the main witness testifying.
As opposed to 9 months trial 240+ witness statements, including victims' parents and 10000+ pages of evidence.
I'd also recommend the Operation Hummingbird video, reddit and latest The Trial podcast alongside these factual transcripts.
Are you honestly dragging that poor innocent man's name into this. Shame on you!
@@pepescat6541 .... just pointing out that juries get things wrong.... FACT
@jimoconnor2594 Timothy Evans was executed in 1950! Decades before dna and the medical science we have now. It's simply not any excuse, please leave him him rest in peace and not mention his name in this case.
@@pepescat6541 ,,,,just pointing out the jury got it WRONG
I have no idea if this person is guilty or not guilty as I didn't work in this particular unit.
Only the people who worked there would have their own opinions on that!
However what matters is not the speculation going on by people who don't know, what matters is that the find the right person guilty with proper evidence.
There's no justice for the parents unless they get the real evidence .
Concrete evidence is what is needed.
There babies who died in that unit when the said person wasn't there.
What if there was just incompetence by the Dr's???
And it would suit the hospital to blame someone?????
Public opinion is turning fast now
It's not worth posting here has the comments are removed for having a different opinion.
Channel just wants followers that just all think the same and agree with the speaker.
But I disagree with certain things
That's rubbish. It's RUclips. Sometimes my comments don't come up. And I am favorable to this site.
Why does this channel keep on going on about the trial?
Seems obsessed with the trial.
Let the lawyer do his work and get CCTV to get it in the court of appeal again .
The reason he's obsessed with this trial is that it's turned into a nice little earner for him.
@@nickfish8345the whole point of making the video, who cares!?
It's information that hasn't been aired. There's massive interest. He's the only person putting this information out for us.
Everyone wants to hear the police interviews that were shown in court. That's coming up soon.
@@nickfish8345 ..and unlike his repetitive droning about the Rettendon murders he's gone all in and staked whatever reputation he believes he has on Letby being guilty. He also wants a return on the cost of the cherry picking of transcripts. Add to that the Gen X, Y, Z follower demographic of young woke mother's who will ridicule and emoji off the face of the page any opinion other than LL being 'guilty as sin'. I'm just glad I don't live next door to any of them.
@@StormyDaniels-i7m Great stuff, Stormy!
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Will people accept a not guity verdict,as they did with the guity verdict..Lucy will eventually be released,is this going to be another exposure of abuse of power,Hospital cover up..that is a possibility
Explain this direct witness evidence
At some time shortly after 3.30am, the nurse allocated to look after Baby K left the unit to go and speak to the baby’s parents. At the time she left, she was content that the baby’s condition was stable. Letby was left to look after Baby K in the allocated nurse’s absence.
When the allocated nurse returned at about 3.47am, the baby was being treated by Consultant Dr Ravi Jayaram.
Dr Jayaram told the court that he had become increasingly concerned about Letby, following a spike in the number of baby deaths in the unit. When he realised that Letby was on her own with Baby K, he went into the nursery to reassure himself that everything was okay.
He found Letby next to the cot. The baby’s condition was rapidly deteriorating. Letby could see the baby was desaturating but was doing nothing to help her. Neither had she raised an alarm or called for assistance. It was established that the baby’s breathing tube had been dislodged meaning she was not getting the support that she needed from the ventilator.
The baby’s condition deteriorated on two further occasions over the next few hours. On both occasions, the baby’s breathing tube had again been dislodged. Evidence was presented to show that Letby had again been present in Baby K’s nursery at both of these times, despite the fact she had other babies to look after in a different nursery.
She's been thrown under the bus and unscrupulous youtubers are making money from this case.
Lucy is INNOCENT
So is Ted bundy
Put the pipe down !!!!
...and the earth is FLAT
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She’s not though… poor poor murdered babies
The narrator is profoundly ignorant of how to detect false statistical claims. He can't spot the problems with the ludicrous claim that a diary entry expressing anguish about horrific events is a confession to serial murder. He has no objection to a circumstantial case based chiefly on the defendant's colleagues having an evidence-free hunch that she was murdering infants. It was an extremely weak case that should never have gone to trial. The purpose of the justice system is not to convict a scapegoat in order to bring emotional relief to grieving families. The families don't benefit from an innocent person spending the rest of her life in prison. The babies died because they were very premature and they were critically ill. Clusters of patient deaths are not an uncommon event in a health care system given that people who are in hospital typically have vulnerabilities that a healthy person doesn't have. In this case it was a small hospital that lacked the resources to care for very high risk infants - a fact that the hospital acknowledged when it stopped taking on very premature babies and diverted them to larger hospitals. Those factors constitute an explanation that is far more likely to be true than the claim that a nurse went on a killing spree.
And your legal and medical experience is ??
No matter how much you keep pushing it mr crime scene, there is still little proper evidence. Whether guilty or not. Cheers Col
all the evedence against her was all crap, no bias complete bias.
Of course it was, and of course you have looked at all the medical evidence and sat through two different trials and a leave to appeal hearing in which she was found guilty twice and refused a leave to appeal. In your own eloquent way you have shown what the I Love Lucy Brigade really are.
@@lennyrussell8954 yes I did, give me one peace of evidence and lie prove it.
@@nel766 The X-rays showing air bubbles in the great vessels of several babies.
@@nel766What does that even mean?
Do you remember the various bits of agreed evidence?
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 the x rays showed the baby's had enlarged stomach, that's all. they put 2 and 2 together and got 5.
Justice for lucy.
The calculating cunning of letby, should be a lesson to all working in the Countess of Chester. Especially those who are in any doubt of her guilt.
As for those making videos accusing senior drs of their competencies, should remember, its slanderous?
Their ridiculous videos and accusations may be litigious.
The very same goes for other TV documentaries complete with anonymous "experts" and people who are ill informed, without even studying the transcripts.
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