Something I'd like to ask, if I'm double tracking guitars should I be making the bigger EQ adjustments on a group/bus of the two tracks rather than doing the EQ on both the left and right tracks separately? I think doing the latter is causing introducing phase issues for me
I think you must differentiate from recording multiple guitars or multitrack 1 guitar. for multitracking 1 guitar i use 2 tracks L/R using the stereo input on my amp vst. From there i use the exact settings for both tracks. I think if you do it separately you might loose track real quick, since a point of multitracking is to fatten up the sound in the stereofield. You can also using your stereo guitar going into a stereo amp rig. From here you can pan multiple amps in the stereofield and stuff. Btw. i'm not a pro in any way
Wow dude. That first one out the game was hilarious. Sorry you have some naysayers in your comments section; I’ve always found this channel to be invaluable
The thinner my guitar is,the better it sounds in my full mix,weird but ok When i try to get a chunkier guitar tone,it just clashes with every low range instruments
Very helpful video. I previously had 4k boosted and could not figure out what was wrong with the tone. After this video I notched it and wasn’t happy either(listening in solo). But then I turned it back up and was able to hear what you described. Sounds much cleaner in the full mix. Thanks Miami!
While I still find guitars to be one of the toughest parts of a mix to nail, I've realized that the guitar tone on almost all of my favorite records is just decent. It's almost never this mind-blowingly perfect "nailed" tone
The thing is that you can't really capture the vibe of a live guitar amp, the low end rumble in your body and how it "feels" in the room. Putting a mic so close to a speaker doesn't make it better either. But that's what we are used to. You can only find it's place in the mix. Anyways if the music and the ideas are good I really forget how something sounds, and I say this as an audio engineer :D
Do you think you could cover the Q in a video on EQ? So many tips out there say things like "boost somewhere around 1k". With a Q of 0.35, or a Q of 35?? How do I know when I have the Q right for my purposes? Should I notch 1k and 1.2k with narrow bands, or should I combine them with one larger Q?? Is a 1db boost going to be noticeable, or do I need to boost by 20db to hear a change?? I did what FabFilter told me, but now it wants me to notch the frequency next door 😱 When can I stop?? 😭😭😭" These are the things no one ever seems to cover. I think the biggie is "how do I know I've selected the right Q?", as that's info which can translate between different songs.
This is gonna depend on what you’re trying to do, personally I only use narrow Qs when absolutely necessary as I find they can mess with the quality of the sound a lot if it’s a big cut or boost. Helpful for certain resonances especially things like toms ringing when the kick hits in the room mics or something
You okay Miami? love the vids, been steady following joey since the release of HBV a few years ago. Loved you as a teacher for the brand (still do). I know you’re probably all Gucci, but it never hurts to ask. either way, take it easy, don’t sweat the tomorrow. It’s alright to live in the present and to enjoy the brakes pumped every now and then.
This honestly is making me tear up a little. I’ve had so much going on in my journey recently but this really touched me man. Hope you have the best day -Miami
One thing that is quite important to know is *priority* in a mix. Most of the time when mixing is discussed I read "all it comes down to is the vocals" and I agree to that to some extent. Yet in metal productions the guitar is either priority 1 or not even 2 but 1.1. Metal is somewhat special regarding priority in a mix. If you find yourself in a situation where you would cut a bit of 500hz but think that in another part it is needed for the guitar to punch through, automate your eq and give it a few dbs back. In 2023, we are lucky to have these tools. You have to think outside the box sometimes, and that's really what a "good producer" is known for. To make decisions that seem unusual but work well. Throw away your cheatsheets with dozens and dozens of numbers which you stick to and use your ears! Great video as always, Miami.
I agree with the 4k one... I was at a festival last year, actually walked away from 2 bands because they had WAY too much of that 4k in their guitar tone, and it was freaking ear piercing and just SUPER unpleasant
@@joeymusic Yeah my girlfriend is really migrane sensitive, and she was like: I got to get out of here, because that annoying frequency amplified through the PA literally almost triggered a migraine attack with her
I usually compress the low frequencies with a multiband compressor instead of cutting it. I’ll try cutting next time to listen to the difference. Great tips!
Hey Miami! Regarding the tube vs solid state distortion/odd order harmonic multiples point you brought up - should this ring true for amp sims, and can be applied according to the type of amp the plugin is simulating? Or does this only apply to real amp scenarios and there's a different rule for sims altogether? This is a really interesting point I hadn't heard before and I'm super keen to test it out to see if it can help solve my ringing frequency issues I'm having :) thanks for the awesome content you deliver with every video my dude!
Dude this is such a hard thing to answer. The programmers have to decide this as they do it and it’s always different. I actually wanna find this out so I might do a video using plugin doctor to find out -Miami
I will admit that I definitely feel like I owe you money after watching 3 of these videos. I could tell by the first video that I needed a note pad. I just got skooled! I hope this comment is enough to pay my tuition. Thank You!
Cute ringing joke and others...but seriously that range your talking about with different distortions is something im auditioning in anolog. Its actually quite important...cool man
It seems like I get ALOT of annoying resonances in my guitars and mixes... could my guitar shaking while I'm playing aggressively cause this? I find I'm taking down 5 or 6 nasty frequencies within guitars and my mix itself??
Try recording it both ways, calm and aggressively, and see if there’s any difference. I doubt that would cause it but tbh something as simple as your pick or hand position can change frequency response -Miami
Dude, thank you so much for this video. Literally a game changer. After 21 years of playing guitar, I’ve never really messed with parametric EQ. Applied your tips to my AX8 and it’s singing like a bird! 🤘
When I first started trying to record guitar, I always wondered why I couldn't get the tone that I thought was coming from the guitar alone. I didn't realize the tone I was chasing was a bass guitar and guitar mixed. I haven't given up trying to get this tone live on one guitar.
Absolutely right about multiples and odd/even freq. tendancies. I noticed you are not cutting the offending freqencies exact, just abit off target imho. But overall great advice. For a rig setup, I tend to revisit the balanced tweaks and make minor adjustments/reassess every so often until I can't fault the curve. Then that's when it becomes a saved pre-set. Also each guitar will have its own overpowering resonance emphasis on certain mids, treble or wolf-tones --> a function of it's neck, bridge, etc. Everytime you cut, you reduce the apparent volume, so sometimes boosting specific freqencies also helps get the best tone, clarity and presence.
Cool video brother , one thing that we don't see often anymore is how to EQ the 80s metal tone, I realized after playing some 80s riff that there was a big Honk in my low mids giving it some unpleasant dynamics when playing double stops , well I dipped at 700hz and it all became much more defined. It would be nice if you could make a video about good old 80s hair/glam metal riffs and see how you go about it. Or maybe show casing some killer tones like winger tone which was freaking awesome.
Nice ending with the last tip to simply pay attention to all the freq ranges to see whats what depending on style of guitar tone and style of other elements in the mix.
And then when you notched out a ton of frequencies and you start missing the highs... You put a wider band EQ on the area and pull it up. Variety on the "cut and boost" pultec trick. Or you undo half of your notches because you realize the guitar is now weird not brutal.
Miami, that cut is looking fresh! Did you cut it at 2437.5 Hz?
Something I'd like to ask, if I'm double tracking guitars should I be making the bigger EQ adjustments on a group/bus of the two tracks rather than doing the EQ on both the left and right tracks separately? I think doing the latter is causing introducing phase issues for me
I'd like to know this too
I think you must differentiate from recording multiple guitars or multitrack 1 guitar. for multitracking 1 guitar i use 2 tracks L/R using the stereo input on my amp vst. From there i use the exact settings for both tracks. I think if you do it separately you might loose track real quick, since a point of multitracking is to fatten up the sound in the stereofield. You can also using your stereo guitar going into a stereo amp rig. From here you can pan multiple amps in the stereofield and stuff. Btw. i'm not a pro in any way
Wow dude. That first one out the game was hilarious. Sorry you have some naysayers in your comments section; I’ve always found this channel to be invaluable
It’s awesome that you find value in it! We can’t please everyone, but we try
-Miami
Out the game??
@@majesticpbjcat7707 gate. Phone knows I game more than I gate
@@theAshesofDecember1 makes sense 😂
The thinner my guitar is,the better it sounds in my full mix,weird but ok
When i try to get a chunkier guitar tone,it just clashes with every low range instruments
Thank you for the superb videos, Miami. I really appreciate the content you put on here.
Anytime, my friend!
-Miami
@@joeymusic
Very helpful video. I previously had 4k boosted and could not figure out what was wrong with the tone. After this video I notched it and wasn’t happy either(listening in solo). But then I turned it back up and was able to hear what you described. Sounds much cleaner in the full mix. Thanks Miami!
Miami is saving rock & roll one video at a time
While I still find guitars to be one of the toughest parts of a mix to nail, I've realized that the guitar tone on almost all of my favorite records is just decent. It's almost never this mind-blowingly perfect "nailed" tone
Yup! It’s the accompanying instruments all holding their own weight
-Miami
The thing is that you can't really capture the vibe of a live guitar amp, the low end rumble in your body and how it "feels" in the room. Putting a mic so close to a speaker doesn't make it better either. But that's what we are used to. You can only find it's place in the mix. Anyways if the music and the ideas are good I really forget how something sounds, and I say this as an audio engineer :D
@@miklosnagy7411 I think you can capture it, but most peoples systems just aren’t made to reproduce it alongside a heavy low end of a bass guitar
Do you think you could cover the Q in a video on EQ? So many tips out there say things like "boost somewhere around 1k". With a Q of 0.35, or a Q of 35?? How do I know when I have the Q right for my purposes? Should I notch 1k and 1.2k with narrow bands, or should I combine them with one larger Q?? Is a 1db boost going to be noticeable, or do I need to boost by 20db to hear a change?? I did what FabFilter told me, but now it wants me to notch the frequency next door 😱 When can I stop?? 😭😭😭"
These are the things no one ever seems to cover. I think the biggie is "how do I know I've selected the right Q?", as that's info which can translate between different songs.
This is gonna depend on what you’re trying to do, personally I only use narrow Qs when absolutely necessary as I find they can mess with the quality of the sound a lot if it’s a big cut or boost. Helpful for certain resonances especially things like toms ringing when the kick hits in the room mics or something
You okay Miami? love the vids, been steady following joey since the release of HBV a few years ago. Loved you as a teacher for the brand (still do). I know you’re probably all Gucci, but it never hurts to ask. either way, take it easy, don’t sweat the tomorrow. It’s alright to live in the present and to enjoy the brakes pumped every now and then.
This honestly is making me tear up a little. I’ve had so much going on in my journey recently but this really touched me man. Hope you have the best day
-Miami
We’re the same age and on a similar journey. I see you brother. Things move into place where they need to. ❤
2437.5? GTFO It's more around 2436.3 Give or take.
One thing that is quite important to know is *priority* in a mix. Most of the time when mixing is discussed I read "all it comes down to is the vocals" and I agree to that to some extent. Yet in metal productions the guitar is either priority 1 or not even 2 but 1.1. Metal is somewhat special regarding priority in a mix. If you find yourself in a situation where you would cut a bit of 500hz but think that in another part it is needed for the guitar to punch through, automate your eq and give it a few dbs back. In 2023, we are lucky to have these tools. You have to think outside the box sometimes, and that's really what a "good producer" is known for. To make decisions that seem unusual but work well. Throw away your cheatsheets with dozens and dozens of numbers which you stick to and use your ears!
Great video as always, Miami.
when im notching annoying frequency. i feel that something new frequency starts to pop up. how to fix that please thank you
It's so interesting how cutting a small area can change so much of the way the tone sounds. Thanks again for another great video Miami :)
2437.5Hz PMSL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Some people though.
Thanks! would be great to see an example where instruments have conflicts in frequencies
There’s a video called 4 frequencies fighting in your mix on our channel that goes over this
-Miami
2437.5 Hz. I’m dead. 😂😂😂
usually around that frequency but if it only happens once in a while, it can be sounding very exciting 💀
I agree with the 4k one... I was at a festival last year, actually walked away from 2 bands because they had WAY too much of that 4k in their guitar tone, and it was freaking ear piercing and just SUPER unpleasant
Sheesh that hurts just thinking about it
@@joeymusic Yeah my girlfriend is really migrane sensitive, and she was like: I got to get out of here, because that annoying frequency amplified through the PA literally almost triggered a migraine attack with her
the distortion makes it all moot, it all sounds the same
I usually compress the low frequencies with a multiband compressor instead of cutting it. I’ll try cutting next time to listen to the difference. Great tips!
Hey Miami! Regarding the tube vs solid state distortion/odd order harmonic multiples point you brought up - should this ring true for amp sims, and can be applied according to the type of amp the plugin is simulating? Or does this only apply to real amp scenarios and there's a different rule for sims altogether? This is a really interesting point I hadn't heard before and I'm super keen to test it out to see if it can help solve my ringing frequency issues I'm having :) thanks for the awesome content you deliver with every video my dude!
Dude this is such a hard thing to answer. The programmers have to decide this as they do it and it’s always different. I actually wanna find this out so I might do a video using plugin doctor to find out
-Miami
@@joeymusic dang dude, I had a feeling it wouldn't be such a simple answer :(
Why's life always gotta be so hard on us like this lol
More mixing gold. Thanks, fellas!
I will admit that I definitely feel like I owe you money after watching 3 of these videos.
I could tell by the first video that I needed a note pad. I just got skooled!
I hope this comment is enough to pay my tuition.
Thank You!
obviously the 4K that came with newer V30s.
Oh man, that’s such a fact. How do you feel about the anniversary 30s tho
-Miami
@@joeymusic G12H Anniversary 30s? they're one dang of a speaker by themselves and i think they're quite good blend for V30.
WAKANDA ✊🏿🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🇮🇱🐒
Lol I love the guitar riff
I feel like I have the beta knowledge in guitars out of all the rock instruments and this was still very insightful, thanks Miami!
Aah yes, the stuff of my nightmares. 200-400, 3-4k. Bonus: some amps need a cut at 1.2k.
Cute ringing joke and others...but seriously that range your talking about with different distortions is something im auditioning in anolog. Its actually quite important...cool man
Transition game is strong as always. I think I've watched almost all of your videos and they made me such a better mixer! Thanks so much!
It seems like I get ALOT of annoying resonances in my guitars and mixes... could my guitar shaking while I'm playing aggressively cause this? I find I'm taking down 5 or 6 nasty frequencies within guitars and my mix itself??
Try recording it both ways, calm and aggressively, and see if there’s any difference. I doubt that would cause it but tbh something as simple as your pick or hand position can change frequency response
-Miami
@@joeymusic Would you say that many resonances are normal?? I see a lot of pros only cutting 1 or 2 peaks??
Dude, thank you so much for this video. Literally a game changer. After 21 years of playing guitar, I’ve never really messed with parametric EQ. Applied your tips to my AX8 and it’s singing like a bird! 🤘
You look like Axel F's partner in the movie Beverly Hills Cop😀Thanks a lot!
Eddie Murphy?!
-Miami
@@joeymusic I mean Arsenio Hall, but the movie Is Coming to America 😄
When I first started trying to record guitar, I always wondered why I couldn't get the tone that I thought was coming from the guitar alone. I didn't realize the tone I was chasing was a bass guitar and guitar mixed. I haven't given up trying to get this tone live on one guitar.
These cuts still seems a bit broad to me, although they are described as surgical
True, I usually go a bit thinner but the ringing just kinda Called for that
Absolutely right about multiples and odd/even freq. tendancies. I noticed you are not cutting the offending freqencies exact, just abit off target imho. But overall great advice. For a rig setup, I tend to revisit the balanced tweaks and make minor adjustments/reassess every so often until I can't fault the curve. Then that's when it becomes a saved pre-set. Also each guitar will have its own overpowering resonance emphasis on certain mids, treble or wolf-tones --> a function of it's neck, bridge, etc. Everytime you cut, you reduce the apparent volume, so sometimes boosting specific freqencies also helps get the best tone, clarity and presence.
Cool video brother , one thing that we don't see often anymore is how to EQ the 80s metal tone, I realized after playing some 80s riff that there was a big Honk in my low mids giving it some unpleasant dynamics when playing double stops , well I dipped at 700hz and it all became much more defined.
It would be nice if you could make a video about good old 80s hair/glam metal riffs and see how you go about it.
Or maybe show casing some killer tones like winger tone which was freaking awesome.
Obrigado por essas maravilhosas dicas. Vou experimentar. Abraço!
2100 has given me a migraine for my current song. A little in the 4 area.
I was going to give you some flack for fluff, but once you started talking I enjoyed the information!
thats good but wy you not add in the JST plugins so this range can easy set and need not another EQ. all should be inside amp preset possible
Nice ending with the last tip to simply pay attention to all the freq ranges to see whats what depending on style of guitar tone and style of other elements in the mix.
Your videos are always wonderful and instructive and I also enjoy your wit. Thanks so much for what you do.
I know it’s necessary, but literally every time 4k is boosted, my whole body tenses up and I wince. KILL IT WITH FIRE!
Nails on a chalkboard vibes
-Miami
1:34 Dude, seriously, I was already writing it down lol
Hahaha sorry!
-Miami
@@joeymusic Only mixed two songs so far, but already learned so much from you guys. Thanks for the amazing content 🖤🤘
Are these ranges also a good starting point for mixing lead distorted guitar tones too?
Ahhh yes, the Odin. That brings me back quite a bit...
Still gets the job done tho!
-Miami
@@joeymusicOh for sure, one of my personal favorite tools for getting ideas down quickly!
Excellent Video Miami!!! Really helpfull and very detailed 😃👍
Best transition game on RUclips :D
Oh wow. Someone with some good info. Nice. Thanks man
Putting instruments in their own space is where I'm at with my mixing. It's not easy to do but I will get it !
thanks for the great content
Always! Anything else you want to see covered?
-Miami
Love your videos Miami keep up the videos! 😊
Thanks for this Miami!
the 4k prisoner got me :D
And then when you notched out a ton of frequencies and you start missing the highs... You put a wider band EQ on the area and pull it up. Variety on the "cut and boost" pultec trick. Or you undo half of your notches because you realize the guitar is now weird not brutal.
Instead of boosting the area with the eq you used to cut, boosting it on the amp's eq section will bring the amp's meat forward.
@@matenorth great idea, I'm going to check it out
👍
Very badly cut.
How could it be better?