Have a Goth House Party | Rare 90s Goth Party Video
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Is Goth Dead? My Answer to the question of the hour plus advice and rare footage from 90s - early 00's Goth party footage from NYC. Thanks to Kurt Komoda for the footage.
I liked how you pointed out that back in the day all the "weirdos" hung out together... metal/goth/punk/alternative etc. We all hung together because we were truly the outcasts. We were all open and friends. And yeah, house parties and DENNYs! LOL We met so many friends at Dennys! We would hang out at playgrounds, parks, etc because there was nowhere for us to hang out if there wasn't a club night going on! It was great, so much fun.
Wow that sounds exactly like what I did in the late 90s. Denny's was a wonderful place to meet people. I am from a small town too. We would hang out at parks and house parties. Interesting to see Denny's mentioned here. For me it was in Idaho Falls, ID.
YES! I grew up in Mantua, OH... which was about halfway between Cleveland/Akron/Youngstown and near Kent State University. There were some cool underground punk clubs in Kent and a few clubs around the area that would play goth/alternative. So we had some fun options. But most of the time it was honestly hanging out at Denny's or Taco Bell in Kent or a comparable place called Country Manor in Streetsboro. Just so much fun and met so many fun people. Good times!
Tara Vanflower I know the Kent/Akron area! I moved away, but Empire was a great shop and unfortunately I never fully got to explore the goth scene while in the area.
Tara Vanflower for real it was an amazing time 🤘🏻💜
Speaking from my point as a doomed, dazed and confused metalhead you're absolutely right. Still going to goth clubs today though. But it ain't the same any more as it used to be back in the days.
I think it's fun seeing goths dance to non-goth music, because most times I see a lot of "goth" people I know going on about how if you listen to pop then you're awful and you can't be a part of the subculture. If listening to goth and strictly goth is the only way I can truly be goth, then I don't want to be a real goth. I couldn't give up 80s and 70s pop music. It's impossible.
There's always going to be a few who think they invented air, but mostly all the goths I've ever known, myself included, listen to a wide variety of music.
Angela Chase my music ranges from The Cure and Bauhaus to Kanye and Reggae😂 just no boybands please
Ma'am that just isn't true. It's only a small facet of people who are that obnoxious enough to say that if you listen to pop or non-goth music, you're not a Goth.
Here in NYC we had Absolution with rotating DJs and you could have one person playing Fields of the Nephilim and then have someone else play "When Doves Cry" and pack the floor. We've always danced to New Wave, Cold Wave and Industrial, EBM and Goth.
Angela Chase I listen to pop, but you gotta at least admit that a lot of it is overrated. 😂
honestly, that party looked so chill, and like people didn't take themselves as seriously and could dress in whatever and still dance and not get glared at/questioning stares at if they're "really goth" or confused at why they didn't put all goth clothes on. Idk I tried my best when I went to see Peter Murphy and I still got stared at - seems like I can never escape that for some reason...don't know if it's because I'm pretty or ugly or what. Lol
ultragaze lol
I agree that goth isn't dead but it's more digital now with the Internet. I have met so many like minded and open minded goths via youtube and I'm especially glad that I found your channel. I love your no nonsense approach to everything. 💀💚
I agree, I met some really interesting goths via internet and some of them became good friends who taught me stuff about the culture. I dislike how everything is ...digital now, but who knows, maybe without internet, goth would fade out even more.
YESSSSS! This video
Coalcandy fancy meeting you here. love your vids🖤🖤🖤🖤
Coalcandy .perfectly put coalcandy.kind regards luck and blessings frm the wolf.🖤
Yeah, I wouldn't worry. Metal was supposed to be dead at one point there, but it pulled through.
GOTH IS DEAD...... It's been overrun with Vampires and that's not the same thing.
Every time someone tells me goth is dead two new goth nights start up here. I see goths at the mall now even. We may not have the numbers we once had but the passion is still there. As for house parties, since the age of goths does tend to skew a bit older these days, it's really more a practical thing. Most of my goth friends my age have kids, mortgages, etc. They're concerned with getting a sitter so they can go out to the club to escape. Having a house party isn't really practical any more. Babybats could do it of course, but in smaller places goths of all ages really need to stick together to keep the scene going.
Haha that was just a beautiful video, everyone looked like they were having a great time. it would've been fun to experience that. I k ow you said it feels like some of us youngsters are content with the net love but not really, it would be fun to go to a goth party and meet more likeminded people instead of solely on the internet, we need that human interaction face to face
Great video like always dear 😊
Kai Decadence Hay, it's Kai! Hi Kai, Hello there! :D
Kai Decadence its sad where the only place you ever can talk to another goths is online
Miss Murder :'(
Hey lol
Very true. I haven't ran into another Goth in like years and it'd be so fun to go to a party like that in the video. Not to get drunk but just to talk with others who you can relate with lol
I think that there is an inherent difference between the Goths of your day and the goths of today, sometimes, I'd look at it as comparing apples to oranges, but that's my simplified two cents....
I honestly think that house parties will never, CAN never be the same, because it'll devolve into too many people becoming awkward, going onto their phone as that just kinda brings them more comfort, and eventually just not knowing what to do with themselves.... You'd think that because music is more readily available, a house party like this would be easier to create, but, again, I just don't see the people I know from my generation who wouldn't make it devolve into more of a slumber party type deal, you know, more quiet, kinda, awkward, and definitely not thrilling in the slightest. I'll tell you what, I'mma try this. and I mean it. I'm going to send get a group on FB, and see if I can organize something with all my alternative friends, and I'll let you know how it turns out. And hell, if it's interesting enough, I'll even film it, but again, I just don't know how it'll work.
Jonathan Robbins I concur. Though, unfortunately I lack any companions of natural gothic inclination, so if I go so far as to begin anything resembling a house party, it will likely be just me alone in a dark room, dancing like a madman to London after midnight dawning monochromatic attire and necro-theatrical makeup. ...Which is a start, of course, but it will likely go nowhere quite swiftly.
XD I mean that's me practically every day anyway, so I can only go uphill from here. (mind you instead of london after midnight, it's gary numan and earlier, more postpunk bauhaus)
Maybe the elder goths didn't change much, if they don't mind hanging out with people our age?
I disagree. I live in a college town where their are hundred of house parties every weekend night with people coming in and out. No one is on their phones unless they are looking for their friends or an address. The music being played obviously isn't alternative (trap/house/rap music mostly)since that's what is popular right now, but a lot of people DJ and its pretty much parallels what Angela describes(down to the 40s and sharing of cigs). Occasionally, I'll go to warehouse parties in LA with friends and where the people are dressed alternatively (like killstar nu goth kind of style) and dance and mosh to sad boy/emo trap music (the kind of music that is usually associated with the nu-goth scene). It's not really my type of music or style, but I still have fun. Plus, even in the 90s alternative club music was not confined to just goth, but included ebm, synthpop, etc. Honestly, I don't see why any group of people who really like 80s goth/darkwave music couldn't throw the same kind of events except for the fact that it is hard to find enough people who are still passionate about type of music while still having them relatable to you (for example I'm all down for a goth houseparty with people around my age, but maybe not one where people are either in their 50s or teenage years).
Black Skull same
Things change, evolve with the new generations. Some of the older generations hold a flame for the old days and wish it to never change. Some of us meet in the middle and make great times together. Sometimes we can recreate the past, sometimes we can make something new. Raise our dark glasses to those that hang together outside of the internet and within it. Own it. Merry meet, merry part and merry meet again!
We had more freedoms and were more active outside. Computers were rare in high school and easier in ways, less bloatware, spying and no virus problems. I had Compuserve in 93 and free Juno email. Now a phone is about all you need except for gaming, photo and movie editing and printers and HDMI on my laptop that is a 13 lb. beast. High end. Best part is shopping online now on phone and saving gas and getting everything in one shot delivered. Closest stores are 6 miles away and they roll up the streets early. Power went out and went hunting for ice and dinner at 9:30 pm. Took awhile to find something open. Maybe hurricane winds came up this far. Over 1 thousand miles away too. Was lugging large branches that fell.
House Parties are the best because that's where you end up making friends
Wow, that made me very nostalgic for something i was too young to live through. Im not particularly goth, but i do have a love for this and many other alternative niches, and it makes me happy and very fortunate that there are 2 or 3 clubs that cater to the alternative/undergroud scene (if i may call it that way)where i live. I also very frequently find myself rocking out in the local, departed motorcycle bar. Thank you for these beautiful videos.
punk is sleeping drunk
goth is sleeping in its coffin
I work at a mall, in our local pop-culture shop. We sell a lot of movie tees and stuff. recently we have had a lot of alien vs. predator and vintage horror merch, and you wouldn't believe how this has brought the local Goths out of the woodwork. if you are looking to meet local Goths, look into local events. Not even strictly goth events. craft fairs, EDM events, rocky horror picture show, free movie nights (especially horror movies or cult classics like pulp fiction or the labrynth,) I can't promise that this will open the door to some secret magical underground goth culture of your dreams, but you will meet a few cool people, and these could be amazing places to hand out flyers for your own goth events.
This video was awesome! Thank you, Angela ^_^
Loved the home video! Reminds me of a lot of parties... some had the cops at the door at 2 am telling us the music was fine, but could we ask the bag pipe player to stop ;cause that was really pissing off the neighbors hahahha!
Well that was a turn I didn't expect! Haha!
Hiro Protagonist .hahahaha
Goth will never die, there will always be one or two people left who identify as Goth.
Angela thanks for your Video. As a NYC Goth myself back in the late 90's to mid 2005, I do feel it was such a special moment in the scene, I saw it changed slowly until it was sanitized and all the wonder taken out. The scene really saved my life, I found deep and meaningful friendships and strong bonds. I feel that being a Goth is more than just a mindset, we are borned or have that inclination already deep inside of us. While looking at your video and sorta looking back, I find myself trying to remember the name of the old guy who used to come in at Batcave and sit at a table and draw, he wore a french styled hat, had a killer mustache and wore Round eyeglasses.
With the exception of my boyfriend, I have zero alternative friends. I find it pretty hard to find other people to relate to, who share the same taste in music as me, same style, same interests. Hard and I feel awkward sometimes around my friends. Like a weirdo or something.
I lost my train of thought when I heard take on me playing holy fucking shit
I think it's even more telling when you can't relate to the alternative people of today because where I live, you'll still see an emo here or there and that's just something I never could get into :/
People to this very day would classify me as "emo" but I feel like I gravitate more towards punk. I can never find other people like that. And yeah, there are a ton of emos running around and they're kinda taking over and it just makes it even harder to find people I can relate to. All anyone listens to is Sleeping With Sirens, Asking Alexandria, BOTDF 😒. But I'm like where's all the people that listen to Mindless Self Indulgence, The Dropkick Murphy's, Maximum the Hormone, Billy Talent, stuff like that. The only people I know of like that are people in my sister's age range and there's a 10 year difference between us. I can't find people in my age group like this and it sucks baaaaalllllllssssss.
Lolli Akashiya I LOVE Billy Talent more than life itself!
I absolutely LOVE that crochet top you're wearing!!
To me, Goth never died. Sure it's gone through some changes, as any good scene should if it wants to survive. But I've never not had the opportunity to go to Goth gigs and festivals, Goth clubs, shop in Goth stores, play in Goth bands etc. I think a lot of the scene has moved online now (especially the shops) so it might not be quite so obviously out in the world. But it's definitely thriving under the surface of mainstream culture. Sometimes you just need to know where to look.
Thanks so much for uploading that video, you have some fascinating stories to tell. The 90's sure do feel like a long time ago now.
I get so excited when I see another goth out in the wild, they're few and far between in my town! Your videos always leave me with such a deep feeling of nostalgia... and now I kinda want to throw a house party
Hi Angela 🖤 I'm so in love with this home video. It reminds me of my older cousins who were in the goth scene in Los Angeles in the late 90s and early 2000s. I was a bit younger at the time but watching them definitely inspired and shaped my style today. I wanted to ask for permission to repost this to my tik tok. I totally understand if you're not comfortable. Love your videos always ❤ 🙂
This is not so on topic but I was so thrilled to see so many people of color in that video!!! And to hear Bloodsucker being played too, it's one of my favorite songs.
Wow, you know, I never really realized how different things are now socially until I saw this. Yeah, in ways, we have things so much easier today, but in other ways, we're fucked.
I'm heavily involved in the LA scene, and I can tell you, no one throws house parties. At least nothing more than a kickback with like six people in attendance. We don't have that sense of community. You basically are just lurking through people's lives. You see them at clubs, you add them on social media. But you're thinking, did they add me cuz they like me, or was it for numbers? Would I be bothering them if I actually made an advance?
I feel like I'm one of the few that actually reaches out to people to hang out, because I am always on the hunt for like-minded friend's, but things rarely pan out. They claim they don't have the time, but really, I think it's because they don't want to break that barrier. Being likable is much easier behind a keyboard.
But I'm definitely inspired to throw a house party when I move soon. I'll pass out fliers after clubs, post online, whatever. Let's see how many people aren't afraid to get personal. 😎
I am watching for the second time. I like the clip of the party that was filmed back in 2001. I may be much older, but I still enjoy a good party of celebration. Thanks for the flash back of the video.
Personally for me I have social anxiety....the thought of going to clubs or interacting socially makes me uncomfortable so I tend to avoid it now. Which is why most of the time I live vicariously through you lol. I really appreciate your gothic knowledge from the 90s. I grew up going to concerts & mostly hung around the "rocker" groups I guess you could say & even that genre feels like it's dying for me. That's probably my fault though as well. As I grow the people that I used to hang out grow and most of them have grown up to be very different. Memories are always wonderful but still....melancholy.
This video has inspired me to have a house party
madeline mehok same to bad I don't do well in social situations.
Growing up in an area where the nearest goth club was an hour and a half away and impossible for a broke kid to visit. My interaction with fellow goths have been mainly online. During my high school years and on I got used to being "the weird friend" rolling my eyes as the group goes into their 50th rendition of The Thong Song or whatever was on pop radio at the time. So its abittersweet feeling to watch your old footage of parties. Bringing a mix of nostalgia and longing. Though they are fun to watch and to hear your stories 90s stories.
I wiiiiiish I had a house instead of an apartment. Our parties are awesome already as it is, but that would make them even better :)))) And well, I guess the neighbours would be happier XD The karaoke room at one of the last ones didn't turn out to be very popular with the ppl living under us, haha.
Any chance to rent a vacation home nearby together with several people? That might solve a problem.
In the US, it's cheaper to buy than rent and get nicer. I was in apartments for only a couple of years when 1st moved out. Hated it and no pets. Met my husband and bought a house not much later. Could do what we pleased within reason. Now I have less neighbors and love it. Town is more laid back what is allowed like keeping chickens and lots of woods and lakes and swamps. Should've moved out here years ago. Lots of bonfires are okay, we get plenty of rain. Rarely have to water gardens.
I haven't been subscribed to you for long, but I just felt the need to say that I absolutely love your channel. You're such a great storyteller. The way you vividly describe your experiences fills me with a sense of longing for something I've never known. I also really admire your straightforward attitude and your conviction. Stay beautiful.
These videos are such fascinating time capsules. They show a mercurial age that was just on the cusp of social media, a time that sat right on the doorstep of the various social changes that the coming decade would soon herald! I grew up in Port Jefferson during the 2000s, and I don't recall having seen many Goth or alternative types around but, then again, I was very young and hadn't become fully aware of the subculture yet. It's so surreal hearing you talk about the town that I grew up in, (I currently live in CT), and I am really happy that you managed to find more of us fellow goths in there of all places! It's as I always say, Goth isn't dead, it's undead. Immortal. And what is immortal cannot ever die or be killed!🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
undead undead undead
I also love that I got to see that their was people of different races/ ethnicities, many styles, and ages coming together.
Oh I loved this video +Angela Benedict! The footage and the story made me remember the time when I was in school. We had so cool house parties. Not often but they were there. We were absolutely not goth but alternative in all colours of the rainbow but the athmosphere was there! Even more I feel like the person who isnt allowed to go when everyone goes to a party as I watch ;) its almost torture because I really miss this. In the city were I live now I had to build up everything from zero, no friends knowing noone. I still did not meet any gothic people though. I can just hope and wait for the festival season. Waves to you all and be thankful if you have likeminded friends around you :)
Thank you for being you, and for being here, Angela
Also, I don't think goth will ever die. I actually feel like it's getting to be kind of popular. It's just that we are starting to live in a somewhat antisocial society based on the interwebs and not so much on going out and doing things like it use to be.
So I'm pretty sure I've been to this party! Or it's twin sister here in LA. Actually this exact night I had my own house party here for Y2K! I'm really lucky to still have a scene here in LA but no it's never been as good as it was. Not 96' Helter Skelter good but still! In the past few years however it's almost like a club revival (for me at least) and even in my late 30s have made it out 4 nights in a row a few times. Still I see the baby bats showing up at clubs and shows in force and I couldn't be happier🖤 It always surprised me to hear how your experience in the 90s mirror my own from HS to club life to obscure things like getting super dressed and calling it 'goth extraordinaire' I seriously almost shit bats when I heard you say that once. So that was a thing on the opposite side of the states? Holy fuck! It's extremely uniting 🖤 if you ever head west I can show you the night is still alive, dance floors are packed and goth is definitely not dead here! ~loves
I think that a lot of it has to do with not only growing up with social media, but with things like location, how a person grew up, factors in peoples daily lives, etc. I know personally for me I can only handle a couple hours of major social interaction because it makes me very tired - that's partially to do with being more of an introvert and with having an autoimmune disease. Apparently something like 1 in 3 people from the younger generation has a debilitating illness be it mental or physical. The economy is such that lots of people in the younger generation are having to work two or three jobs to get by, anyone in college is probably still working two jobs, and so people may just be too plain exhausted to make it happen. Then there's a part where (I hate this about my gen) lots of people don't have the backbone to stand criticism or hard conversations without getting offended and having a complete mental breakdown. Those people probably prefer to stay home where they are "safe". I'm not saying these are excuses, I'm just saying these are other life factors that can come into play.
Personally I loved going to Goth Night at Le Voyeur in downtown Olympia and I can't wait to go to the next one. I danced a lot, there was a fog machine and incense, the place was packed and the guys at the bar were so sweet, there was only one asshole who walked in and said "You guys are why it rains, all the time." And when we gave him silence and death glares he just left. I was like "That's some damn divine power he gave us if we can control the rain!" I hung out with good friends, we went to a diner and got some good food, and that was one of the funnest 4-5 hours I've had in a long time! I don't think it's a problem with the baby bats as a whole, I think it's just a problem of personal factors and logistics on an individual basis.
Omg I would honestly love to see what it was like in the 90's. You do make it sound really fun :P
oh my GOD this encapsulates EVERYTHING about the 90s / the early new millennuim ... and everything about a great party. fucking awesome thanks for sharing
Goth has faded but hasn't died out. It's schrodinger's subculture. Or Undead (undead, undead)if you prefer. The last real "alternative" club here shut down a few years back and the scene here, which was more of an industrial scene anyways, has gone from small to barely existing via the occasional themed night at a few bars that just lack the same feeling. House parties are kind of out as well, since most of us live in shitty apartments and have no money. such is life under the liberal party in ontario.
What's do the Liberals have to do with it? The scene has been fading for years over many governments. It was always fringe to begin with, it just had a boost in the 90 to the 2000's because that's where the musical current took music as a whole.
Didn't you know? All our problems are caused by them evul liberals!! /s
But yeah, government really has nothing to do with it. Clubs thrive on people's money and money dictates the program and playlists. Also people will only play for the venues and music they like.
The fact is that in the course of the 90s goth became less popular, because eventually all music styles will have a high peak and then fade and goth's was in the 80s, which is now 40 years back. Other music genres died or faded in much less time or do you still that many soul and blues rock bands in today's charts? And once Grunge, Shoegaze, Brit Pop and House came the music press, labels and club goers were no longer interested into goth or any kind of new wave derived music.
So there were two things happening in the 90s and 00s: people stopped coming to the parties which caused them to call quits or entire clubs to close. Or people kept coming, but requested the DJs to play other music, hence Dark Techno, Metal and the like started to creep into goth venue playlists. How that has anything to do with government I don't know, in the end that's more of an after-effect of capitalism (demand regulates supply).
Your comment on sensory overload vs excitement had me rolling because that would actually be me. I never know what to do in situations like that, the word 'party' itself freaks me out because I've never experienced any sort of party that didn't make me want to fling myself into traffic. I wish I was more comfortable in those type of situations, but I guess I'll have to settle for writing books about them
I was sad about the lack of clubs in my area, but your house party tip got me so excited! The alternative scene isn't particularly big where I am, but I don't care at this point.
Our society has changed a lot as well and I think that's where some of the issues are. Throwing a house party nowadays gets the police called and being put on a watch list for potential terrorist activity. (I know not everywhere, but in a lot of places this is very true) Not to mention the creepers that would show up and ruin it. It is much safer to get public venues for parties and actually back in the late 90's and early 2000's people where I live would have punk shows at the local lodge. If you want a place to talk and hang out I suggest coffee shops or very public parks. Like you said music is at our fingertips, so it's also portable and playable anywhere... No need for home sound systems anymore. ;-) Also a good place to find other goth people is at the local game store where they have game nights.
Our house parties in 91 were decidedly way darker and scarier than the clip in your vid. LOL
Haha maybe it was because it was a New Years Party and people were excited? lol
Thanks for the upload! That house party brought me back...very similar to one I hit up in Alphabet City around '96. I remember some of the best parties were on Ave. A & B, just my friends with a drink in one hand a clove in the other.
House parties are very common where I live (a college town). There are literally hundreds every weekend in this less then 2 mile radius of a town. When you bike on the streets on a Friday night literally all you can hear is music and people, while almost crashing into herds of girls who probably pregamed too hard. The music and style of dress is different, but the dumb conversations, cheap alcohol, everyone is a dj, sharing of cigs, best friends for the night, and where am I going to sleep tonight questions are all still for better or worse going strong. Goth and industrial music was more trendy in the 90s and attracted more types of people so you could throw a decently sized house party with mostly only people who of that subculture. I'm sure in 20 years my edm loving raver friends, will look back and wonder what happened to all the large edm music festivals and why people don't do them anymore and tell war stories of when they would dress up and party 3 nights in a row to all their favorite DJs and how they would save up so much money to go. Goth culture might be kinda dead, but youth culture will probably never die as long as cheap malt liqueur still exists.
I just want to encourage and give you props for ACTUALLY having RICH content and not just talking about black lipstick like other vlogers do. Although I do love a lipstick chat lol!🖤
to say that the goth subculture is dead, is the gothiest thing to say †
Nope. To say it’s undead is.
I would love that! I would be that drunk girl giggling hysterically while also shouting random things...and faceplanting the carpet most likely. still, I would have so much fun and that is the point of it all. great video as always Angela!
You're Making me nostalgic for my teen years, ugh. I just wanna be a teenager again haha.
This video is everything. Thank you for making this. I dont think goth is dead either. I moved to a place where I had to start over and it was really hard at first but its coming along ❤️
That video could have been anywhere, the vibe is the same. Those were fun times. It was the same as the goth parties on the west coast that I frequented. I felt like I instantly knew the people in that video, even if it was taking place on the opposite side of the country. Thanks for sharing this...it reminds me of why I fell in love with the scene, even if that scene has changed and become something new..
Idk why I never commented on this vid but that house party video looks like SO MUCH FUN. Especially when they were outside sitting on the steps and just chilling together, smoking with no one on their phone? I'd kill for fun/social chill time with other goths
You brought back all this amazing memories, that's the way I lived it. No goths were I live :(
I know this video is old, but I stumbled upon it and it took me back to those fantastic house party days the early 00’s...best days of my life! Alts from every corner of the city showed up including many alt artists/Dj’s. I distinctly remember the internet was just picking up speed, so chat rooms for alts popped up here and there and if you knew where to haunt you could find the next big underground party. Those times makes me think of the movie “GO” . Lots of Super Heavy D&B/Jungle/Industrial/Goth and more With HUGE speakers, But genres divided between rooms. In those days...Ravers jokingly called us “Gravers” where I live because we weren’t in Colorful blinking clothing and screaming PLUR, but definitely were amiable and some were even friends between cultures. I knew people who threw House raves, (I live in a college town) Goth Parties in an old abandoned factory/warehouses blasting great music, to an old airplane hanger, which someone bought and lived there, I remember a room devoted to beds, like old rickety hospital beds for people to crash on lol gross but haha...I agree with you Angela, everyone did hangout...it wasn’t an isolated thing culturally like it seems to be online today...and what few Goth clubs are left. Todays gen definitely needs to see this. Thank you for Posting this video, You have a great channel with fantastic content!
I loved seeing that clip of the house party because soooo many people in there don’t have a common or stereotypical goth appearance. They’re goth because they like goth music and partake in the subculture. Nothing about appearance mattered and that’s awesome.
The way you describe situations etc and your stories. I would be really interested in reading your book if you wrote one! just found your channel & I am highly happy I did 😊
Oh wow, thank you! I've been thinking of starting writing and seeing where it goes.
On one side you have the immortal essence of the Gothic culture who is the heart of all poets. For the Pop Goth culture, it will transform into something else. Everything dies (Entropy). The arts (contemporary scene) will be there as long as people can relate to it. At some point the younger generation will mirror their own contemporary social reality. The 21 century will have his own voice.
I've been thinking about this lately, how they met without social media (internet). It would be so nice to throw a goth party at someone's house with old and new music. This video was very inspiring, I got a better idea for November.
I have been around for a while. The scene never really dies. It rides a wave. So, it comes and it goes. But it always returns. On going out, or more importantly not going out due to being broke as all hell or still being young enough that parental influence could prevent going out. That seriously sucked. Especially back in HighSchool.. After spending the week in heavy duty social isolation it was getting out on Friday and or Saturday night that made me feel like an acceptable human again for a bit. Missing it was a kind of torture.. Then there were the parties, back in the late 80s and through the 90's I was a thrower of parties. I was really into the basics.. Yule, My birthday and Spring Equinox. Back when I didnt expect to reach anyone with the internet, there was both the phone tree and actually inviting people while out the weekends before the date. Word would spread like wildfire and I could usually expect to have 50 or 60 people show up. I usually used it to show off some kind of cooking. Generally something that was easy to manage in a big pot or two. Things got a hell of a lot easier when the internet became a thing. As that really boosted my reach. I could then have people show up from a long ways away and better yet, I suddenly had a reason to run down to Chicago for the weekend.
it’s come full circle, i can confirm!!! that footage looks like something recorded today but 5 years ago that would’ve been crazy to imagine, im so happy ah🤍🤍
THIS IS A MASTERPIECE! Im a baby bat. Like, really new baby bat. 16. I have actually awsome friends that resemble your description to your teen age friends. But unfortiunatly me and my friends dont have enough room in every house, and... were not in the 90's. I think we are perfect 90's kids, and that bumbs me!!! THANKS FOR THE VIDEOS THOUGH!!! I ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW HOW IT FELT LIKE!!! 😘✌🌹
And BTW, Goth hasent vanished- its ivolving. And tbh, my school actually has so many different types of kids and jenres. But, were the freekiest!!!😂 So, never loose hope. I hope ill be the representetive of goth subculture from now on!!!
7:40 "come lie....next to me....." aw, I used to dance to that song back in the day! This totally brought back memories.
Yes! You LIVED for club nights and house parties. I've been thinking about making a video just sort of asking the question "what does it mean to be 'involved' in the goth scene?"
See the thing about my local club in Bristol is that because it's hosted underground in a wine cellar no one can use their phones as there is literally no signal; unless you just wanted to take pictures and record video footage that is. There is also a cosy quiet area around the bar with comfy chairs and benches that people congregate and chat amongst themselves. If you hear something you like then you move to the back of the club where the dance floor is
Being a baby bat right now I don’t have anyone in my school/group of friends that really understands nor do I have any goth club near me (also I’m Spanish so I don’t really know much about the culture here). It’s really cool seeing the footage you show from the 90s and I wish I had that right now .-.
Have you tried to show them? When I was in high school I did have friends who were goths as well BUT - Part of our peer group were people who weren't. They were either ravers, listened to rap, skaters that liked rap and hardcore music but we all got along. We showed them our music and took them to clubs and they loved it. Although they would never consider themselves goths they were friends of goths, appreciated the music and subculture and happily did things within it with us. Perhaps show your non-goth friends things about the scene?
That video brought me back to the house party I was at that same year. I absolutely remember so many house parties. And yeah, we had 'em all...goth, industrial, lots of grunge...living in Oregon, and raver kids. We we're all there. It was a blast. I was not into the substances, just the substance. I completely understand missing that type of human interaction. 😍
I am a young goth and Goth is defiantly not dead. I 100% agree with everything your are saying. I asked a few people at my school about goth and they said the same thing you did. Unfortunately for me most alternative kids at my school were emo and didn't want anything to do with me
unrelated, but what color is that on your nails? It's beautiful! ❤
Edit: Look at that computer! Time realy does fly, haha!
I had this glimpse of "goth being dead" thing when I went to a goth club this weekend and I saw pretty much what everyone else was seeing: people trying to show off, people killing each others vibes cause they for some reason tough they were in a differente kind of place, people trying to impress, and it was just wrong. It was a strange feeling, with strange people who honestly seemed to be driven by ther ego to show up. Disappointed and extremely surprise. But I have hope, you know? I really do
"Dumbfuck ballet" I love it!
I got a lot out of the video you posted. I am not goth or emo. I do enjoy some videos that I watch on someone who is goth or emo. I think the subculture of goth or emo is pretty cool. nothing in life is ever dead, including have a party of celebration.
I’m not goth, just “darkly inclined” as you would put it 😂 but this party looks amazing. I feel like house parties are so lost and I haven’t been to one in years.
im so happy the scene has turned around
Wow it's cool to see different types of people in the community it's almost spectacular.
That's the thing that gets me - I don't know if it's a New York thing but when people ask me what I think of POC goths, I'm like...Seriously? We had goths from every friggen corner of the earth and we were all family.
Omg i heard bloodsucker by paralysed age! thats actually my favorite song at this moment
I'm not sure if I'm still a baby bat, honestly, I've been goth for 4 years now, and my ultimate goal in a sense is to be kind of like a Trad Goth, and you saying, "What if we exposed a baby bat to a weekend full of 80s goth" honestly sounds so amazing. The music and the fashion looked so beautiful, I would be completely overcome with excitement. But a goth house party sounds amazing as well, unfortunately, living on the west side of the U.S, we don't have basements. But, I have a small group of goth friends and a house party would be a better way to fully engage ourselves into the way the goth scene used to be for you. As you've said, things are much so much different now than when you were a goth in the 90s and 2000s. This generation of goth have really missed out on the goth scene of the 90s and when technology wasn't such a necessity, it really makes me wish that I could have been a teenager during the 90s and to be able to go to goth clubs and to the concerts. The only goth concert I've ever been too, or the only one that could be considered goth, was when I saw The Cure a few years ago with my mom, she's a die hard fan of theirs. I'm just so glad that you make all these videos and that you share your stories with us, it's really an amazing way of showing us baby bats how goths were looked at and how they acted with each other.
would you consider doing a music recommendation for appropriately goth-y music that's come out within the past decade? It exists, I swear!
I love those days ! The memories make me smile I'm surrounded by the run of the mill soccer moms so when I take my daughter to her games the look at me like I'm insane so I just miss the days when I hangout and danced with people who understood me ! Goths not dead it just needs to be reborn!
You got my total sympathy. I may not look like a Goth in everyday life (prefer that for festivals/club nights) but holy moly just wearing black from head to toe brings you in danger of getting sentences thrown into your face like pardon me your underwear is showing (and it is a bad thing why when I crawl around with my daughter at a playgroup?) and Don't talk to strangers (when my toddler was trying to play chess with another child and I took my sweet time explaining some rules to that child) and YOU CAN BE SAVED (to my husband wearing normal Goth shirt and pants) What's wrong with people lol
As a veteran of the 90s, I don't know if it could come back.
Things are just so different now. The world is so different now. When I was in high school, if I wanted to talk to my friends I had to actually see my friends, or hope that they're home when I gave them a call from ye olde kitchen wall house phone. Now I can "talk" to friends anytime, anywhere. Hell, some of my best friends are basically nothing more than Facebook friends that I have occasional text convos with. 😕
Thank the powers that be for your channel. I'm only 19, so I never got to experience what you have. As for house parties, I've never been to one as for strict parents, but there were a few thrown when I was in high school still. I wouldn't mind to have a little goth house party at a future apartment or go to a club when old enough, but right now? Heh... I wish.
I live in the Bible Belt, so there weren't many goth kids in my area. There were maybe 4 of us in town. There were NO clubs, so one of our older DJ friends got the local skating rink owner to allow us to throw monthly straight-edge raves. So, he played the music we wanted, remixing most of it, then we just danced and hung out. Never more than 15 people, but it was totally worth it.
It felt like goth died for me when that skating rink shut down. We had nowhere to go. So many of those kids phased out of the subculture, and the rest became emo and scene kids.
I miss it.
I felt like the guy playing A-ha on his imagination!
Gosh remember such partys here in germany ;) Crowded flats with noisy people and nice music in the background and after midnight going to a club :)
Omg I love how diverse it was!!! I’m usually the only black goth at parties 😭. Sigh 😔
I am sorry it's again. I know there has so much fun out there. Thumb-up.
Goth is not dead. The kingdom of Goth is within you. lol.
Hey Angela! What lipstick and eyeshadow are you wearing? OBSESSED with your makeup here!
I was too young back then, I always admired goths when I was a child in the nineties. When I became a teenager myself, life was shit... I was the only goth, always alone. Never party. Weirdos where rare, and there were only scene kids and metalheads. I "chose" metalheads. Still most of my friends are metalheads, but I am happy to have finally found other weirdos even if they are not exactly like me. Seeing this 90s footage reminds me of what I wanted as a child but never had... One of my new years resolutions for this year was to finally get some connection to the goth scene. I mean, I live in germany. How hard can it be?? (very hard...very hard...)
Really good advice at the end, I've been dying to meet more goths (or even just other alternative people) in my area
Thank you :) If you're interested, I did a video about the internet in the 90s and in the comments I've asked people to name their location and things in their area in a way to to help others find people and things to do in their area.
Oh awesome! I need to check that out, thank you! ❤
I now identify as Goth. My teen years sucked as I was raised EXTREMELY conservative xristian.
I wanted to be part of the Goth scene in high school but I knew it wasn't going to happen. I started exploring Gothic culture in my mid twenties. I love this thing, because it's part of the eighties, which I love. Not everyone can start a love for the Dark and Macabre when they want to. I've investigated different avenues and done my own thing entirely. I have recently rediscovered Goth and it's been a homecoming for me. Goth is a beautiful, BEAUTIFUL culture. I love it💜.
That house party looked amazing. ❤
I was at such a party and it was fun. Everybody talked, in the living room Karaoke was played, and the phone just was there to show videos. Goth isn't dead and phones aren't bad or make a party shitty.
I wish I could Do a party but I live in a small apartment
Goth can't be dead as long as there are people to keep it alive. It's people who keep a subculture alive. And as long as people are alive they can teach that culture to the next generation. Goth has a stronger online presence these days, and in some ways that's a good thing. Goths all over the world can connect with each other and share their love for the subculture and their experiences.
"It may sound cheese, but I was so used to just seeing emos everywhere that I was so excited". This is where you got my like, laughed so hard, and it's such an understandable feeling.
Also, yeah, all these cultures are just chancing. They're not dead, but their prescience is being moved to another place. I don't think it's necessary bad, it's just different, gives different problems, and gives different good things.
omg Angela, when i was in high school, I used to take the bus home and i saw this goth woman and i was so happy that I wasn't the only one.
I love your blanket and I hope Gothic style isn't dead and emo is like fucking idk weird I'm 22 and I'm Gothic
I live in a fairly small town where I'm pretty sure that I'm the only goth, or at least one that also dresses the part. I was introduced to goth by a woman I met online. Not in the next town over or something easy like that, but across the country. And when you live on the west coast of Canada, that's a lot of ground to cover. Before meeting her I didn't realize that my dark personality, wonderfully morbid jokes, and fascination for the macabre had a name. So I definitely have the internet to thank for some of my gothy things. I mean without my introduction to goth, I would never have searched goth on RUclips and you'd be down one subscriber (gasp!!!😱😱) That being said, I would like nothing more than to see more goth in my area. You can't experience everything just through a computer screen! Clubs aren't exactly easy to access when the nearest ones are hours away. And underage. I recently visited my high school because friends of mine who weren't graduated yet were part of a Shakespeare performance and we were theatre nerds together. One of the girls I didn't know complimented my aesthetic and then told me she wished she could be goth before running off. Had I been more prepared I would have asked why couldn't she. But it came from left field and I had no clue what to say. This gives me a bit of confidence that although goth has certainly faded, it isn't extinguished, at least as long as I'm alive. Sorry for the rambling. Love the videos and always look forward to them.
That house party looked amazing!!! Hope I can hold or go to some that are that fun!
I'm sure you will either way.
1:55 I can relate to that. Spooky pals are rare to find. 🕸🖤