How Different Martial Arts FRONT KICK?! Hard2Hurt - Muay Thai - Taekwondo
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2020
- Front Kick has got to be one of the easiest Martial Arts Techniques to throw. Some people call it a teep, some call it a mae geri (kekomi or jodan), some call it an apchagi or ap chagi, but the stabbing front kick and pushing front kick in more all have a lot more in common with different Martial Arts styles than it would seem! In this episode of comparing Martial Arts Techniques, I talk with a WT Taekwondo Master and 5th Dan, Master David Wright, a talented Muay Thai Coach in Josh Brackett, and the one and only Icy Mike from @hard2hurt who tells us his opinion on throwing front kicks in a street fight (which isn't too far from some of the karate front kicks to be honest).
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This video is cool, what I like a lot is that I can also compare from my martial arts I have done, so for me when I did kungfu (just 1 example) I was taught to actually hit with the heal of ur foot so u can get wayy more power and that if u did the ball of ur foot its mainly for reach but the power is from the heal and ur body
Depends on your flexibility!
@@SenseiSeth yea in kungfu u must be flexible they make u do a lot of stretching before u can do the actual fighting and training, most stuff u learn u definitely wanna have flexible for more reach
@@SenseiSeth Using the heel on targets below the belt (groin, thigh, knee, shin, ankle) is quite easy and effective actually ;)
@@SenseiSeth stretching is very good
TKD master: I'll kick this pad
Muay Thai instructor: I'll use the bag
Icy Mike: *LEND ME YOUR BODY*
The way you worded it sounds weird
it's because people always tell mike to "go to the body!"
There's,, Karate, TKD, MT
and then there's Icy Mike.
Forgot Rogan
Icy Mike = McDojo
@@moustachio334 Not at all, watch his streetbrawls fights. He’s very technical and beats on people a foot taller and 50lbs heavier than him
THIS IS SPARTA
This is madness
AHHOO
I love front kicks and I love how Mike's is called street 😂
Couldn’t think of a better name for it 😂
@@SenseiSeth How about Mr freeze because he is icy Mike.
@@BD90.. i love the mr freeze kick
Nice to see various martial arts starting to use Steven Segal's moves.
Seagull
Martial Arts? Steven Segal thought of that when he was on his trip to Japan back in the 1500s
Steven segal? Im thinking (hoping) this is sarcasm. But in youtube comments, one can never really know lol
@The Tide Rises 🙊🙊
Mr. Dirty Grapple-Kickboxing might be the best nickname ever
Front kicks are fun. I really prefer snapping them than pushing with them.
Oddly enough I find a lot of success using snapping front kicks landing forward. People get really scared and it’s easy to capitalize on it. Once you see how they react to that forward pressure then I dictate my following moves accordingly
@@jasonhalvorsen9767 exactly!
Agreed. People that don’t keep up with their conditioning sometimes will go down with a snapping front kick
@@jasonhalvorsen9767 yup, front kick then a straight punch with the same hand works really well.
Tkd: Our front kick is like a spear
Mt: Our kick, has a pierce motion
Icy mike: You gotta add that "UMPH!!"
One of my favorite knockouts ever was Anderson Silva dropping Vitor Belfort with a front kick.
Lyotos vs randy was prettier. So was his vs vitor
@@douglasmacneil4474 silva done it first so his was better imo although I do love machida's ko's
@@zMxsh weren't those fights really close to each other?
@@zMxsh machida was actually set up vs randy. Silva was blind and vitor is just blind to straight attacks
I love how Icy Mike basically describes how I was taught a kick in jka shotokan karate.
@ProductWilbeHot that and the rocking of his hips really stuck out to me.
I do TKD, and in my case, I use the front kick as a "guard transition" kick: that means don't retreat the leg, I let go my delayed leg with all my weight and then it's becomes into my foward leg. For me that method had pretty more power than just extend the leg
You should always retreat the leg for safety. Never let it stay midair! Just practice it, and you'll see, the kick feels much better that way. You can always change guard After inflicting pain and fear.
@@zacmich6472 the leg don't stay in the air, fall with the bodys weight. Obviously I know how to kick at that way also, but looks useless to me, and the guard change it's just a plus value, you can swith guard again before xD
@@kensakugawa6907 Still. In competitions you need a point, not to kill your opponent :) . In self-defense dropping a foot forward makes you vulnerable to punches. Ap chagi should be like a whip, like any other Taekwondo kick. It's a little different from Karate where more emphasis is made on power but, in return, it will be much faster.
@@zacmich6472 oh I see what's happens. You're talking about ap chagui, but I'm talking about miro chagui (front push kick). Dude any kick let you open to punch or counter attack, you may have a good guard and reflexes into a real fight xD
My problem with ap chagui is that I don't find it so useful out of competition, because it's ascendent kick that begins with a curve trayectory and then draws a line between 75°-90° degrees, the human body standing up normaly it's in 90° degrees (alike a wall). So the most of the power of the kick goes into a parelel line with your oponets body instead beak through the body (unless you make it high and hits the chin). So for me circular kicks are better to hurt your oponent body, but is just my opinion.
@Rusherheart47 hope you like It, good luck and do your best 🙂
I like watching all of these comparison videos a lot. It's interesting to then pick apart my own kicks and see where they fall.
I love your videos. Your truly a dedicated martial artist. Keep posting and I'll keep watching.
Awesome video and series its always great to see how similar techniques are as a community. I also love how my personal preference for this kick is a nice combination of all 3 but also still different
2 things, I’m early asf and I’m obsessed with these vids
I kick with the heel of my foot for front kicks when I kick to the waist and ball of the foot for head and chest
You must be pretty flexible!
@@SenseiSeth i focus on flexibility cause of njuries. High kicks were just a bonus
Do you land that?
@@fbiagent2848 some times
Its weird but it works really
Hey bud, I love this series! Gonna practice these today with my daughter.
How Seth And Mike are friends will always be a mistory
Is like the bully met the nice guy and saw everything he did is wrong and now they are bff
Nice. I'm really enjoying this comparison of techniques across styles series of videos.
I personally am already familiar with most of them as I sought out practitioners of other arts to study how they performed similar moves. It's part of my philosophy of learning for experience and cherrypicking techniques thst appeal to me while figuring out their strengths, weaknesses and counters.
Keep it up Seth Sensei. Oss.
I love the frontkick in the space winning Version. Its beautiful to see how it works in the Ring:)
When I was in the army, we tried throwing it with the striking surface was the heel instead of the ball of the foot. My Muay Thai and isshin Ryu background it’s with the balls of the feet. Cool video as always sensei
When I became a macp instructor we were told to teach it muay thai style, with the whole bottom of the foot being the striking surface because of the combat boot. But honestly those who take macp seriously and really take fighting seriously and train, usually develop what is better for them individually. Then gets yelled at in combatives by someone who doesnt really train because "thats not what the training manual says!" Lmao.
@@vikingbluesbreaker729 well, I guess. Don’t get me wrong during army combatives we were taught that way as well but I think the idea was to explore other options.
@@vikingbluesbreaker729 sometimes people can be too by the book you know
@@DXIII_365 Heel? Body or head?
@@Meatisfood to the body. I should of made that clear
Nice vid I like the combination of fast and strong in mikes kick 👍🏻🥋
Loving the content lately brother
Interesting how the focus and keys are very different, and you get a very different looking kick from each discipline. Be cool to see each one side by side (like the Chuck Norris push-up).
Yay!!!!!!!😃front kicks🦵. I did a lot of front / teep kicks yesterday hitting my double end bag. So much fun 🤷♂️
Good training guys!
Awesome video 🔥
Great comparison between front kicks!
Love this video and this channel
seth this content is FIYAAAAAAA
Very insightful. The versions of front kick I learned in pankration are totally different. Same went with the side kick , roadhouse and the elbows. It's amazing the difference in the martial arts. I've got 5 front kicks you didn't teach a one of them.
How is the Pankration front kick peculiar?
2nd Sensei, I'm late, but I'm here. Thanks for the video. I like these.
Mike the street master lol I like it , Glad to see this video my front kicks are trash and only for distance & space now I can use it for offense 🙏thanks seth
I was actually watching a uechi ryu/pangai noon training video from the 90s and Shinyu Gushi the instructor they were documenting did a front kick very similar to icy mikes kick.
awesome job
I am from Ohio, deaf and I am student of the karate I just grew to learning since Jan in first week ago... I love it so fun but getting grow to see tough and keep practice to how adult self defense and spar with my instructors... Jab, hook, cross, finger jab, duck jab and more...Just next level for kicks a lot to kicks helps me to keep weight loss and improvement fast kicks and move as angles
I love the front kick. One of my favorite targets is the hip socket
Funny how all of them presented it kind of like "the way we do it is different from everybody else" and then proceeded to do almost the exact same thing.
Love these! This series has legs. chortel chortel...
I only found this channel because of the H Train. And I like this stuff rock on BROTHER.
Ayee, thanks my friend!!
Try this. Put on some boots with a good sole and heel. Go outside and find a telephone pole in a graveled area. Do a rear leg skip kick with your heel to the telephone pole. This is the door breaker kick and the hardest kick you can throw against a hard object. You must be sliding forward simultaneously on the standing foot and traveling, you get your body weight into the kick. You might get a better result if your toes are turned slightly outward. FWIW. Good vid, SS.
The only kick i can still perform like i was 20 :D
I like how in the title he has proper style names like taekwondo and Muay Thai and when he goes to icy mike’s version of the front kick it’s just Hard2hurt
The most underated kick by a mile. Amazed its not common in the ufc
I watched the entire video and closed it. Then I forgot I need to come back and like it.
HahHa thank you!!
I tend to practice & teach snap front kick the way the TKD guy showed, but I see the advantages of the other 2 styles. It looked like the 2nd 2 kicks were a combination of a front snap kick & a front thrust kick. *The orange bags were sweet
I loved the Roundkick Video
Thanks, hopefully you like this one too!
@@SenseiSeth oh I will, I love to see the contrast on those ways to throw kicks
@@SenseiSeth oh I will, I love to see the contrast on those ways to throw kicks
Ah the lovely front kick(maegeri), the one learned first, the one I can make someone eat my toes but also the one I can hurt my knee when applied wrong.
Kinda using the pushing version since we are thought to push forward with the hip so far.
Also, so far the one I kinda don't really do much (please note, white belt speaking)in HJJ or kickboxing, maybe to make space to fix my guard.
Most drills are about punches and roundhouse kicks and to finish with takedown or back kick.
So it's all about transistions from one move to another while pushing forward hard.
No place for front kicks there so far, maybe later with higher belt ranks.
Mike does a traditional karate front kick. And it is absolutely the best form of the kick imo. WB also just did a video talking about that style. Whichi repeat is hands down the best. Savate also does the front kick that way. Ultimately though, most "styles" can teach you how to fight. Getting caught up on "style" will result in you never moving past a journeyman martial artist
I like the tkd kicks.
That's a wicked sound system for a Tae Kwon do studio.
I've done the TKD version in 3 occasions in a street fight to the balls & made it home without breaking a sweat or getting hit 👍😁👊💪
My favorite is the low kixk
Just recently talk this in Jason Leung channel.
I'd been front kicking for years in full contact kickboxing but it felt mega sloppy (my fault for lack of desire to improve it). It wasn't until I started karate that it actually became more tidy and felt useful. It was the chambering that made a world of difference. My front kick still kinda sucks but that's my fault for not consciously using it enough as I prefer the standing sidekick. Karate definitely helped me though.
Icy Mike on other people's videos like, "I'll put a link in the description below."💪
I love the side kick but gotta agree with icey Mike front kicks more practical more sneaky hits more often. Side kick just so much easier to see coming it has a huge wind up and tell to it.
Muy thai side kick however is better than the traditional side kick and its like a combo of a teep and side kick it comes out faster hits more often.
Statistically speaking front kicks and rounds kicks just have the highest percentage win ratio.
Front kicks baby!
Yoooo
Do back kick next please
In sparring and fights (in the ring, not the street), my front kick is most like the “street fighter”. Easier to incorporate into a combo and use on the fly. Front leg works like a jab, back leg like a cross. The TKD kick, for me, just takes too long and is too reliant on perfect distance vs a moving opponent. The TKD snap kick is more effective for setting distance and setting up a roundhouse or side.
Where did the Muay Thai instructor get that Dieselnoi shirt? I want one!
Icy Mike is master of Street style kung fu.
The original purpose of the mae geri technique was to brake the bladder, so the kick was under the navel, short and powerful. Due to changes brought by competitions and marketing now the kick might have a different purpose. Originally it was a deadly kick and that's how it was taught.
PUSH KICK FOR SPARRING/ RING FIGHT/ MAE GERI FOR KNOCK OUT
Im thai. And I think teep should translate as pushing with a foot. We also use this word when cycling the bicycle.
I hurt my big toe one time doing a front kick on the bag. I can walk just not bend it forward all the way now.
When was this???
Last month .
The first kick that I learned in taekwondo was the
front snap kick
The tkd front kick using ball of the foot at the beginning is very much the same mechanics as the muai tai teep, the tkd is a rear leg and the muai tai is lead leg
🤣 Icy Mike.. You legend. The taekwondo one seems to generate quite a bit of power but telegraphs quite a bit. The muay tai one seems to be a little more stealthy and comes back quicker but maybe a little less powerful ? The differences weren't as massive as I was expecting.
Should be named "Icey Mikes Parking Lot Front Kick", because he uses the parking lot so often to demonstrate possible "street applications".
What's the difference between
front foot kick
Vs front kick
At about 9:00 the words "It is THE best kick" are uttered. Would love to hear the thought process on that POV.
The best kick, period.
Taekwon Do has 2 Front Kicks. 1 is a Front Thrusting Kick, like what he has Demonstrated, (more of a pushing action) the other is a Front Snap Kick, far more explosive action. If you kick a bag with a Thrust Kick it'll swing around heaps etc, but if you kick a bag with a Snap Kick, it'll barely move but have a nice big dint in it. A snap kick is more devastating, as it has a more internal effect on the opponent.
Dirty gravel kickboxing sounds badass
What's the better kick side kicks or front kicks?
Only Icy Mike keeps his guard up when kicking.
Teep actually means "kick away" with the feeling of the word stomp in Thai. Very crude word if you know what I mean, haha. I think muay Thai is mainly good due to conditioning(bone density), I mean these guys kick banana trees till their leg bones become iron. It's about outlasting your opponent ,playing the pain and endurance game(your leg will snap before mine). I feel like this kind of conditioning can be used in taekwondo etc... On key areas of your body. #nopainNoGain love your vids bro. Subsubsub
The Thai teep and street combat front kick looked kinda like the same???
Dirty gravel kickboxing for the win 😎
It's funny how much each of the trainers look like they would practice that style of martial arts
Best kick
Traditional Okinawan karate front kick uses the ball of the foot to hit the mid-level especially the bladder area. When it become sportized the front kick is more now tokickthe face and the breast area.
If you look at an ancient style like Pankration, which dates back around 2,500 years ago, their version of the front kick (Gastrezein) struck with the heel instead of the ball of the foot. The purpose the Spartans used it for was to aim to smash straight through an opponent's shield, which supposedly has happened on several occasions throughout Greek history.
Fun little martial arts history lesson for you.
DeiselNoi from the Golden Muay Thai era had a really deceptive verison of the front kick
My favourite kick in Karate.
Will u break your toes teeping if u hit their pelvis? Kinda like if u miss a finger jab or if someone moves forward the same time as u attack?
Fingers are different then toes, but yea it’s possible. Way less likely than poking someone’s forehead though
@@SenseiSeth wow honored to get a reply. Haha. Thank you!
Haha yea, my friend!!
awesome...Seth, curious...did it suck at 7:39? (you're facial expression leads to believe it might have sucked a little bit lol.)
Got a poltergeist going on in the restroom. Get that checked, my dude
👍
How the video is informative and kinda serious UNTIL Icy Mike appears on screen => instant dumbass hilariousness ensues :D
Just gotta love that guy :D
Ayyyy
With the quickness!!
Lol at the sidekick comment after you troll
Us every time on it in your ranking videos.
Interesting things to note about this Taekwondo front kick compared to the Taekwon-Do front kick:
1- In Taekwon-Do, you never strike with a front kick higher than your own solar plexus, as the higher angle and the limitation of your forward hip movement will send you to your heel and unbalance you against a heavy or forward moving target. That's why we see to compensate, Taekwon-Do use the side front kick; basically the same motion except the supporting leg is turned as in a roundhouse kick so that the hip is freed and weight does not fall back on the heel; exactly like the Muay Thai exponent is doing. The Taekwondo exponent actually does it as well, turning his support foot, thus not showing an actual front kick (like the streetfighter/kickboxing exponent does) but a side front kick.
2- In Taekwon-Do, you never straighten the leg fully in a front kick. Not only does it creates imbalance (as we see the Taekwondo exponent several times fall forward after his kick) and a perfect opportunity for a grappler or sweeper to catch you, but it will cause joint injury over time, something a lot of Olympic fighters complain about after a few years. Moreover, if your limb is fully extended on contact, your power will be greatly diminished as you will lack penetration.
3- In Taekwon-Do, chambering the front kick is done with the knee as high as possible to insure the straightest possible line to the target. That's why playing soccer gives no benefit whatsover to Taekwon-Do kicking; actually, it could develop the wrong motor skills to kick effectively anything but a ball.
4- In Taekwon-Do, kicking is done with the whole body, not just the leg. The supporting leg, the hip transfer forward, the extension of the limb, the balancing retraction of the arms, the body and head kept forward, all must be done in coordination. The streetfighter/kickboxing exponent explains it quite well.
5- In Taekwon-Do, the leg is rechambered and forcefully brought down to the ground, not just letting it fall back down. Thus you regain balance, mobility and follow-up kicking faster with either foot while diminishing chances of being grabbed or swept.
6- In Taekwon-Do, you may have different attacking tools for different targets or uses; i.e. toes for throat, sole to stop or push, instep for groin, inside edge of the foot to jam, heel to the ankle etc...
7- In Taekwon-Do, the front kick is combined with many different stepping motions depending on circumstances and/or intent; standing to block, sliding to jab, shuffling to combo, crossing to get more power, switching to change attitude, spinning for more reach, jumping for more elevation etc
8- In Taekwon-Do, you learn to kick backwards as much as forward, using the opponent's momentum towards you.
Thanks for those vids btw. Most interesting and instructional and you have good people working with you. Kudos to you all.
Long Live the ITF!
@@thatwolfensteinguy8954 Unfortunately, many schools and various ITF ''federations'' are moving more and more towards Olympic Taekwondo. Few still maintain the fullness of the art as developped by General Choi Hong Hi; in particular, the richness of hand techniques, equal to any Karate-Do style, the power principles, the hardening of offensive and defensive tools, the many methods of sparring, the unique competiton format (which has patterns, team patterns, free sparring with both hands and feet, power breaking and performance breaking) and the moral culture are discarded in favor of ''scoring in Olympic sparring.''
There are so many ITFs now with so many different methods and goals, it's hard to know what ITF even means anymore except ''Taekwon-Do, not Taekwondo.''
master changs yo no way.
To me the front kick its the best one cause works like the jab (to me also de best punch), they are the Swiss knifes of striking. ¿Want to mantain distance? perfect, ¿want to cut distance? perfect too cause you can push the other person using that second they use in defend or were pushed, ¿dont want to fight but just want to gain time or knock the other? works too, and best of all, you dont need loots of training and fisical conditioning to do them, a thick boy with the flexibility of a tree like me cant kick your face, but i can breat you sternum/knee/nose/orbital or send you fliying using a front kick/jab xD
I'm curious as to why the taekwondo instructor lands in a cat stance. Obviously its a choice but is there a good combination from there?
poor recovery hey, snap that leg back ready to go again
Ah yes my favorite martial art
*streets*
Anyone else see Kyle Kinane at 6:58 ?