In this week's TFD takeover Lindsay Ellis highlights something that we all knew : Carrie Bradshaw was the prototype for the modern influencer. Want some more content like this ? Check out this video here: ruclips.net/video/NBRG66rJHVc/видео.html
Physically hearing that Sex and the City is the blueprint for influencer culture is the hardest truth to smack me in the face in awhile. It makes so much sense, why didn't I see it before?
I wouldn't necessarily say Sex and the City was the entire blueprint itself, as one of many influential precursors could include celebrity endorsement deals, e.g. celebrities being paid to wear (or gifted) designer clothes on the red carpet.
My mom told me she stopped wearing scrunchies back then because Carrie Bradshaw said they were tacky (or something similar to that, lol). Definitely influencer energy
“The Century of Self” is one of my absolute favorite documentaries about how society went from a community-minded society to narcissism through the manipulation of Freudian psychology in marketing in the 20th century. Nerd stuff I love.
Its my absolute favourite documentary as well. Adam Curtis should be preserved in a time capsule for future generations to understand the 20th century.
The entire high-end designer shoe industry owes SATC!!! Before that show, women did not consider buying a pair of $500 shoes “normal”. Now, you have broke college students walking around in Louboutins...
@@hoikatia That is so true. I was 16 when Sex and the City came out and before the show I had no idea what a Fendi bag or a Dior bag was. Before Sex in the City came out I thought a high-end bag was getting a bag from Coach or Guess. LOL
Sex and the City or in other words: How I Learned to Stop Budgeting and Love Capitalism. Seriously, that show created an unhealthy amount of outward displays of wealth means success in a whole generation of women.
In fairness, this video only focuses on Carrie. But the other three characters were genuinely wealthy. So they were shown living the lifestyles wealthy, single people would've lived.
@@thatwasweird954 Very true, but the unfettered capitalism showcased on this show is a problematic idea. Just because you make a lot of money doesn't mean you have to constantly measure your success through material things. Looking back I think there' value in questioning those aspirations.
@@foxroxy86 Do you mean unfettered "materialism?" Because capitalism doesn't mean you buy lots of things. It just means you have lots of choices. (And there's nothing wrong with unfettered buying choices.)...But if you're critiquing the materialism of the show, then I'm right there with you. Carries wasted her money on expensive clothing and shoes and joked about having no savings. Yet there were never any consequences to those terrible choices.
@@TheArtkaw I understand how she's using the term. I'm saying 'materialism' is the more appropriate word. Because you can live in a country with capitalism and not over-consume or become "brain-washed." I never felt the desire to buy anything I saw on this show. (Carrie's outfits after Season 3 were actually really bizarre & gaudy.) I think "Sex and the City" was just a product of its time, the late 90's, when everything was super flashy & brand-driven (think Paris Hilton and Juicy Couture)...All of that is seen as tacky in 2020.
The episode about Carrie’s spending habit on shoes and then asking Charlotte the money she needs to buy her apartment is one I never forgot she had to blame her friend not not lending her the money Also her life style did not seem realistic or is it?
yessi sal It’s not realistic at all. But she shouldn’t be shamed for her lifestyle choices, just as she shouldn’t expect Charlotte to lend her money. The important part of the show though is that Carrie is not perfect, the show is often about her learning lessons.
Oh I know.. that episode really pissed me off.. she cared more about shoes, Then her apartment or Aiden... Miranda was pregnant didn't have a lot of money, plus she turned down big who had plenty of money..
@@keenoled Well, I don't think so, actually she was the queen so everybody did as she did, she started trends, she was edgy in her looks, like crazy wigs and diamonds. She actually spends a lot in fashion, wigs, jewelry, dresses, shoes, like crazy (actually one wig that she wore one night could cost $50.000 in today money) I said Marie Antoinette because she's maybe more familiar to americans, but any monarch in history was an influencer, the court always were copying their life style, their palaces, anything. So maybe not a brand like today, but they will made famous the architects of the time, or the hair stylist, the coutouriers. That's why I think this video is not exact, Carrie Bradshaw was an influencer, but from the 90's.
The scene where Charlotte tells the girls they're each other's soul mates always gets to me. I'll consider myself endlessly lucky if in my mid thirties I can have such meaningful friendships. Plus, minor point, but I love how there's never any drama of best friends dating exes. In other shows (especially those born from the type of success of Sex and the City, like Girls or Gossip Girl), there's always some dumb drama of a character's best friend and ex lover falling in love. I know it happens in real life and it's garbage to live through, but there's never any situation like it in this show and I'm grateful for it. The women were different and dated different men, and above all else they would have loved one another too much to ever pick a man who would come between them.
@@Rikku147 yes that episode essentially got me hooked lol. i was always kinda meh about it but that scene hit me. it's an extremely flawed show but i'll always have a soft spot for it.
I know you're doing these videos for the month of January but can you do them for the rest of the year?! I really enjoy them. I didn't even start on this video yet but I've loved the other videos you've done too.
You gotta check out her YT channel, there's a bunch more videos kind of similar not always financial. But I am a bit salty she hasn't uploaded in forever and now she's over on this channel. But those are a lot of projects to balance, I guess.
@@Kelseyveg I think I started by watching her video essays for things like Disney movies, like she did one for the Hunchback of Nortre Dame while at the Cathedral back before the disaster happened. She covers a lot of popular movies, so I'd watch maybe her Phantoms of the Opera, Mad Max or Star Wars essays. She also does overall media videos like explaining what an Oscar bait movie is, or loose canons explaining how fictional or otherwise characters have been depicted in cinema through the years. She's done a ton of research especially with regards to Disney, so those may be the most fun to start out with.
Although the show was fantasy in many ways in its day, and downright anachronistic now, it got a lot of relationship beats right. I'll re-watch it now and then and realize I've dated 'that guy' or had a similar relationship challenge as one of the main characters since the last time and I'll relate to it in a new way.
definitely.. it's so much more relatable to me now than way back in my 20s when it was airing.. the fashions were fun to see, but I never got caught up into that aspect.. their interpersonal relationships and melodramas keep me watching til this day..
Uhm, hallo, Munich in Germany over here... For her apartment, we would pay at least 2500-3000 € (about 2771-3326 $). And of course with a regular rent increase 😖😕!
I choose to believe she was a role model to young, young women who don't know any better and want a glamorous life... I was one of those young women. Then I grew the hell up and I hope ALL the young women who wanted a SATC lifestyle did because it's awful, unrealistic, segregated af, full of poor choices, and doesn't require introspection and responsibility. Yikes. It's hard to watch the show now! 😂 I also never really liked Carrie's character because she was an overgrown child. I vibed with Miranda's strong opinions and female empowerment and Samantha's ability to be honest with her friends when they were full of bs, and her self love. It's definitely a show of it's time that didn't age well, lol.
lydiabeetz As a non-American I watched it as a faux documentary on the New York fantasy. 😀 Yes, it's difficult to watch now, like most shows where the plot moves because of the stupid choices of most of the cast.
I think it only captured a certain style of woman I thought it was utter stupidity when it was popular and I was a young adult. None of my friends were that silly or vain!
I still love it for the nostalgia and entertainment factor. But yes, you are right, so much was wrong with it. I used to want to be Carrie and live that lifestyle, have the clothes and the shoes and what not. But like you I grew up and realized I am Miranda and I am so proud of that fact now...actually can’t stand Carrie anymore. I get that she had to learn lessons, but I still feel even after watching the show and movies that she’s so self-centered and self destructive.
Carrie was my original influencer lol I think she brought high end to the masses, I never knew about that world before watching (or maybe it was just my age) Pretty smart of Dior too to be pushing that saddle bag again but this time through social media. I remember watching the Instagram stories of all the Influencers receiving them at the same time, still think it is ugly though lol. I know there are a lot of people who don't realize that this girls are paid to wear this stuff (its obvious for some but not others) I think it takes the magic out of it for me a bit. I was sent a Coach bag to promote on my instagram a couple of years ago (I don't even think I have enough followers to be called an influencer, just around 10k) but I thought it was interesting how coach decided to market with smaller instagrammers, I saw an article that mentioned there was a higher amount of trust for influencers in a certain range of followers (not big enough to be corrupt yet your something lol) anyways long comment! I just find the evolution of advertising in the age of social media really interesting.
Silvana Maria Lovetri - I’m even smaller than you, and I’ve gotten tons of free product to the point that I’ve stopped accepting them. It’s just too much that I’ll never be able to consume it. I do beauty, so I get tons of skincare, some makeup and even Amazon products. So a lot of it it’s perishables. I’ll try to use what I have now, before accepting more.
This was awesome. Social media has really transformed the way we get advertisements and its just another example of how many ways we have to make money out here.
There’s an episode were Aiden is cooking and their talking about her buying her apartment. He sends her down to get tomatoes and she mentions she can’t buy her apartment because she doesn’t have any money and is even charging tomatoes on her credit card.
Which is in itself an interesting remark nowadays. I mean, everyone uses their credit cards for everything. No one thinks twice about buying tomatoes with their credit card. (Plus you get cashback rewards, points, and build a credit history.)
saltycrunch yeh only worth it if you pay full each Month so no interest is charged. I don’t think carries character was the in charge of her finances type. She was whinny and weak and needed a rich man she could live off. Hence big who had the cash to flash. Aidan was financially frugal and was too boring for her as he would have laughed at the crap she wasted money on
My mom hates this show. Whenever it comes on TV she’s like “not this again, do these women have nothing else to do but gossip and drink?” It makes me laugh so hard cause it’s true 😂 no one lives like this even back in the 80s/90s
Oh, now I get why Andy from the devil wears Prada wanted to go to Magnolia's for her boyfriends birthday. I never liked Sex and the City, maybe deep down I've always been an anti consumerist.
Funny how the culture has changed, I am 20 now and I watched the show a few years ago... I always found the product placement funny. I could see how they were pushing trends. The Manolos, Cosmopolitan, San Pellegrino sparkling water, locations, it bags etc... It was probably unheard of those times
This is the best series on TFD other than the ones with Chelsea! Please don’t let it end!! So much thought and research goes into each episode and I love that real media examples are shown too. I’m a big fan!!!
This Comment is interesting. I would watch it and see the funny side and also sadness, or -- introspection. Well-written show. And loved the visuals of NYC, beautiful.
I just noticed how everyone wants to be an influencer these days, yet most of us are just the people that are influenced every day. I really like this channel takeover by the way. The topics are right up my alley. Sidenote: I always thought Carrie must be a trust fund child. Overwise there is no way she can live that lifestyle. Do they say in the show that she earned the money herself?
2 things made this show IMMORTAL and UNIVERSAL, is the GENIUS SCREEN PLAY and the great ACTING... THE ACTING IS PERFECTION... THE 4 GIRL DELIVERED PERFECTION, and I spea English as a 4th language.
SATC kinda promoted designers/trends and made them skyrocket, just as Oprah did with “Oprah’s favorite things”. I can literally remember the following things becoming popular because of this show: 1.) Manolo Blahnik’s 2.) The Fendi Baguette 3.) The “Cosmopolitan” martini 4.) Magnolia Bakery 5.) Sushi Samba 6.) Barney’s 7.) The original Dior Saddle bag
Her apartment was rent controlled at $750 a month, which is about $1,300 in 2021. Definitely unrealistic, as most people have to have roommates in NYC to be paying that little for an apartment as big as Carrie’s.
In the book The Tastemakers by David Sax, Sax uses the cupcake episode to frame the topic of how we get these “food trends” that appear. It’s a little dated now but super interesting.
Carrie was the most cringeworthy female character in the TV history. Bratty, entitled, dependent and beyond immature. Can’t believe she was a role model to so many girls and women.
Andrea Vodickova I would say her appeal came from an honest, not so perfect portrayal of her dating life and character. At least in the first couple seasons, I was drawn to the fact that she and her friends didn’t have a cookie cutter, perfect lifestyle where everyone seemed to have everything together (I feel like there was no tv shows specifically like this when it came out, esp for the working woman). I liked that I could relate to going on bad dates or making silly mistakes in my 20s, but in the end know that everything would probably work out just fine.
alongforthememories making silly mistakes...like when she slept with Mr. Big who was married...pfff. Yeah, maybe first season was all fun and games living a cool life in Manhattan having a cool job. But her shitty personality always f uped everything. She totally deserved Mr. Big leaving at the altar. He was such a douche. They were made for each other. Destroying each other for the end of times.
Agree. And as someone who lived in nyc during the late 80’s through the 90’s, I can tell ya this show was beyond unrealistic. And I made a hella- more money than a “column writer” for a NY post.
Product placement [brand influencing] has been intergrated into tv and movies show forever! It certainly did not start with sex & the city. One of the goals of modern media is to influence mindset and push trends and agendas.
Lol I love that I went to magnolia bakery as a student in Chicago way after the show ended and I don't think I ever really got a cupcake. The icebox cake was always the best. I didn't even realize it was a New York think till much later on.
Talking about product placement, I got me a « rabbit » because of SATC. I loved this show so much I have watched it all twice. And watching the reboot.
I love Carrie Bradshaw! I loved how she lived like a fashionable bohemian and I love her shabby chic studio apartment. I don’t understand the backlash her character gets. At the end of the day she’s a fun fictional tv character. Nobody lives like that in real life but who cares, that’s the fun of the show. It was glamorous, fun and funny. At the age of 32 I now have my own shabby chic studio apartment and my own walk in closet full of stylish but modestly priced clothes, shoes and handbags. Couldn’t be happier!☺️
Cristina Rivera with you here on this. Me thinks a lot of people are crying oh I’m a Miranda and fuck Carrie because these are the times we live in NOW. Twenty years from now things might be different and everyone will want to be a Charlotte 🤷♀️. Not a lot of perspective happening here. I love Carrie’s character, she was flawed and the show didn’t pretend that she wasn’t, that was thing. I think she was kind of an antihero.
This was very insightful. Thank you for your analysis ! Also, this is off the topic, and I mean it in the most respectfull way : you are gorgeous. Have a lovely day !
I feel like this show spawned an early 2000s influx of content surrounding rich people doing rich people things like Gossip Girl, The Clique Series and more in the young adult book world.
Well Gossip Girl was more healthy in that matter because they were rich kids, we all knew they were in a whole different dimension sex and the city told us middle class could spend what rich people did. while GG told guys don’t try to copy those kids life style. Sex and city and Gossip Girl are the representation of movie stars vs fashion RUclipsrs.
@@sarizonana I've actually never watched it, can't get into it culturally at this point. But I've heard that complaint about Carrie and her "working poor" self affording the most irresponsible lifestyle for someone early in their career. They also did that with Dan in Gossip Girl in as far as there's no way he could live in their nice apartment and go to the same school without being very upper middle class, but they frame it like he's "poor" Hollywood rarely portrays the working poor/low middle class realistically
@@13realmusic I guess then Dan was kind of an inconsistent character but the other kids were crazy rich we knew it was a whole different world they were living so we didn’t try to copy their life style that much. We loved a dress Serena wore we all tried looking for something similar according to our budgets. Anyway according to the RUclips Chanel ALux Gossip Girl is unrealistic in terms of these rich kids dressing style. ALux says rich young people who come from old money don’t dress that cool. They wear super expensive clothes and bags but not well non luxury brands. According to ALux old money rich are much more discreet
@@sarizonana nah, just TV show writers define poor as middle class so Dan was "poor" comparative to old money. The whole show is a mess but I love it! I believe it with the old money, but also in general the hyper stylization of teens in entertainment if you go back to Clueless it really started there. The costume designer was very clear teens did not dress like that, but they wanted to do something fun. There's a night and day difference from 80s to early 90s teens on screen vs later 90s onwards. Also pretty sure because I did read this stuff years ago, Gossip Girl and like The Clique were basically written by people who lived in those spaces and the designer looks were a big thing but in subtle accessories like bags, shoes and sunglasses. It's been years, but that's how I remember the characters described the only things that were "flashy"
@@13realmusic true to all that. Now also Gossip Girl is a show heavily based on fashion. Fashion and luxury was its main attraction. I loved that show too and while being a mess hey at least as I said it’s healthier in the women’s financial decisions than sex and the city. This video compared Sex and city to Social media celebrities while now I’d say Gossip Girl is the representation of old school celebrities. Sex and the city made luxury fashion look accessible and easy to get, like with bloggers confuse girls every girl can buy a luxury brand bag meanwhile GG told us what we always felt with Nicole Kidman, Britney Spears or Giselle bunchen that high end brand were for the rich people that’s why it’s luxury. It’s healthier for our personal finances the approach of GG and loving the traditional celebrities. That high end is for the crazy rich, to not try that lifestyle not having that budget. I don’t hate social media celebrities. I like a lot of them however I always tell myself that they are the new big celebrities to not feel frustrated for owning Chanel, Prada or Gucci.
This makes so much sense!! A couple of years ago this article www.inladiesroom.cl/2017/06/carrie-bradshaw-la-fashion-blogger-de.html talked about the same stuff and I can't stop thinking about nowdays influencers and fashion bloggers away from Carrie and all she did in early 00´ Good to see there is a lot of people thinking the same
I loved this show when it came out. However, it was a moment in time that looks pretty distant now and really was all about hyper-consumerism. Before marriages, before kids and before mortgages when cosmos in wine bars, brunches with the girls, over the top priced desserts, shopping for something to do and going to the hair salon religiously were all the rage. It is fun period of time but not much saving was going on, and not something that could continue forever lol.
It is interesting to note that the lavish lifestyles became even more lavish in the movies. I haven’t seen the movies in years but I remember wondering how these women afforded these palatial hotels and first class plane tickets and designer EVERYTHING in the second movie. It was like they were all billionaires. So unrealistic. The downside is that so many people (mostly women) went into debt as a result of the need to emulate these false representations of real life.
Brendan Dalton The movies, and especially the second movie are only produced to make money. It’s such a poor thing. The show will forever be Iconic. The movies was simply about showing off a lavish lifestyle. I adored the show back in the day. I loved the everyday life of the girls in New York City. Sex and the City will forever be my favorite show, and I will just pretend the story ends after the final episode. Because the movies where really really bad. I’m thankful for Kim Cattrall (Samantha) not willing to do any more movies.
Product placement is very normal but the idea of her being an influencer is kind of spot on. There's a Sex and City coffee table book where they discuss the fashion and Carrie's spending and the writer and the show's head of costume said that it's sort of an unspoken operating principle that Carrie has these things because designers gift them or loan them to her because of her visibility, popularity and lifestyle. So yep, influencer life.
@@VictoriaMeira7 Aaah... Haven't read the sequel where the slacker protagonist imagines his ideal submissive waifu and the government official pulls her out of the database just for him so he could slack his way towards saving the world cause he's quite literally the chosen one? And then the brilliant solution that saves the world is just good ole MAD. 3BP books are crap. But they do offer insight into Chinese cultural hangups and the party's view towards the outside world.
Honestly, as shady as it can be at times, the idea of influencer marketing (either social media or iconic shows) is actually a brilliant way to market not only for the products but for those pushing the products who are getting paid to do/buy/have things they already covet. Its misused often, but it's still an extremely profitable strategy.
In this week's TFD takeover Lindsay Ellis highlights something that we all knew : Carrie Bradshaw was the prototype for the modern influencer. Want some more content like this ? Check out this video here: ruclips.net/video/NBRG66rJHVc/видео.html
Physically hearing that Sex and the City is the blueprint for influencer culture is the hardest truth to smack me in the face in awhile. It makes so much sense, why didn't I see it before?
MyssBlewm, oh, good, I had that same thought as I watched this video and wondered how I missed that connection.
Your pfp goes so well with your comment LOL
I think alot of "rich girl" trends from the early 2000s (ala Paris Hilton) is why RUclips has been turned into an influencers paradise.
I wouldn't necessarily say Sex and the City was the entire blueprint itself, as one of many influential precursors could include celebrity endorsement deals, e.g. celebrities being paid to wear (or gifted) designer clothes on the red carpet.
Did you not realize how many Manolo Blahnik shoes were sold thanks to the show?
My mom told me she stopped wearing scrunchies back then because Carrie Bradshaw said they were tacky (or something similar to that, lol). Definitely influencer energy
Jason Momoa doesn't think so.
Taylor Williams And now new influencer girls decided they were stylisch again 😅
Scrunchies are back now. Carrie can eat her words.
My grandmother said the same thing! She was thrilled when I told her scrunchies were back “in”. She wore them to work the next day (:
Lindsey you are the reason why I keep watching the financial diet. Plus I actually wear scrunchies because it's comfy and convenient
“The Century of Self” is one of my absolute favorite documentaries about how society went from a community-minded society to narcissism through the manipulation of Freudian psychology in marketing in the 20th century. Nerd stuff I love.
Its my absolute favourite documentary as well. Adam Curtis should be preserved in a time capsule for future generations to understand the 20th century.
The entire high-end designer shoe industry owes SATC!!! Before that show, women did not consider buying a pair of $500 shoes “normal”.
Now, you have broke college students walking around in Louboutins...
also designer handbags -- think carrie's countless fendi baguettes & dior saddles...
Right....and they should also have kept watching were she was without a home in her 40s but had about 45000.00 in shoes. THAT SHIT WAS SCARY.
@@tigerlilly9038 sex and the city was the original American horror story. 😂
Agreed
@@hoikatia That is so true. I was 16 when Sex and the City came out and before the show I had no idea what a Fendi bag or a Dior bag was. Before Sex in the City came out I thought a high-end bag was getting a bag from Coach or Guess. LOL
Sex and the City or in other words: How I Learned to Stop Budgeting and Love Capitalism. Seriously, that show created an unhealthy amount of outward displays of wealth means success in a whole generation of women.
In fairness, this video only focuses on Carrie. But the other three characters were genuinely wealthy. So they were shown living the lifestyles wealthy, single people would've lived.
@@thatwasweird954 Very true, but the unfettered capitalism showcased on this show is a problematic idea. Just because you make a lot of money doesn't mean you have to constantly measure your success through material things. Looking back I think there' value in questioning those aspirations.
@@foxroxy86 Do you mean unfettered "materialism?" Because capitalism doesn't mean you buy lots of things. It just means you have lots of choices. (And there's nothing wrong with unfettered buying choices.)...But if you're critiquing the materialism of the show, then I'm right there with you. Carries wasted her money on expensive clothing and shoes and joked about having no savings. Yet there were never any consequences to those terrible choices.
@@thatwasweird954 That's what they mean by if being "unfettered capitalism". Being brainwashed by an entire system to consume endlessly.
@@TheArtkaw I understand how she's using the term. I'm saying 'materialism' is the more appropriate word. Because you can live in a country with capitalism and not over-consume or become "brain-washed." I never felt the desire to buy anything I saw on this show. (Carrie's outfits after Season 3 were actually really bizarre & gaudy.) I think "Sex and the City" was just a product of its time, the late 90's, when everything was super flashy & brand-driven (think Paris Hilton and Juicy Couture)...All of that is seen as tacky in 2020.
“As they approach middle age”
Me: “oh no she didn’t”
Mary-Kate N Lol. I know right!
Right😂
I know! They were in their 30s 😭😭
Hahaha I felt personally offended by this comment 😂
The episode about Carrie’s spending habit on shoes and then asking Charlotte the money she needs to buy her apartment is one I never forgot she had to blame her friend not not lending her the money
Also her life style did not seem realistic or is it?
yessi sal It’s not realistic at all. But she shouldn’t be shamed for her lifestyle choices, just as she shouldn’t expect Charlotte to lend her money. The important part of the show though is that Carrie is not perfect, the show is often about her learning lessons.
Oh I know.. that episode really pissed me off.. she cared more about shoes, Then her apartment or Aiden... Miranda was pregnant didn't have a lot of money, plus she turned down big who had plenty of money..
They should have written how she grew common sense and sold all her shoes and paid for her own apartment..
Miss Lana. M. Hudson I was thinking of that too when I saw that episode so selfish
Chris Frank what was the lesson she continued to buy shoes after that episode 😆
Lindsey Ellis/The Financial Diet crossover is my favorite RUclips collaboration ever!
Jennifer C. Same!! I hope it never ends!!
Carrie Bradshaw: The Original influencer
Marie Antoinette: Hold my head.....
But was she really? I thought her court didn't really like her because she kept criticizing the spending habits of them?
@@keenoled Well, I don't think so, actually she was the queen so everybody did as she did, she started trends, she was edgy in her looks, like crazy wigs and diamonds. She actually spends a lot in fashion, wigs, jewelry, dresses, shoes, like crazy (actually one wig that she wore one night could cost $50.000 in today money) I said Marie Antoinette because she's maybe more familiar to americans, but any monarch in history was an influencer, the court always were copying their life style, their palaces, anything. So maybe not a brand like today, but they will made famous the architects of the time, or the hair stylist, the coutouriers. That's why I think this video is not exact, Carrie Bradshaw was an influencer, but from the 90's.
Yang Guifei: Hold my hairpin
You should be more respectful
you should be more respectful i think
It’s weird, I’m not into any of the material things on the show, but I love it for the relationships between the women and some of the men.
The scene where Charlotte tells the girls they're each other's soul mates always gets to me. I'll consider myself endlessly lucky if in my mid thirties I can have such meaningful friendships.
Plus, minor point, but I love how there's never any drama of best friends dating exes. In other shows (especially those born from the type of success of Sex and the City, like Girls or Gossip Girl), there's always some dumb drama of a character's best friend and ex lover falling in love. I know it happens in real life and it's garbage to live through, but there's never any situation like it in this show and I'm grateful for it. The women were different and dated different men, and above all else they would have loved one another too much to ever pick a man who would come between them.
@@Rikku147 yes that episode essentially got me hooked lol. i was always kinda meh about it but that scene hit me. it's an extremely flawed show but i'll always have a soft spot for it.
Same, whenever people would sum it up as the sex and capitalism show, I was always like, oh yeah, right....
That awkward moment when you grew up to this show and now you’re the age of the characters. 🤦🏾♂️
Casey Burns Investing 😭
i swear I just said that the other day.. 🤦🏽♀️😭
It makes me so stressed out haha like the ages of characters from friends.
Hahahah yup !
Amen Sista !
The first sex and the city movie is one of my go to happy movies for anything from a breakup, bad day, cleaning up, etc. enjoyed this video
I love movies and music that are restorative like that. I feel you.
I know you're doing these videos for the month of January but can you do them for the rest of the year?! I really enjoy them. I didn't even start on this video yet but I've loved the other videos you've done too.
You gotta check out her YT channel, there's a bunch more videos kind of similar not always financial. But I am a bit salty she hasn't uploaded in forever and now she's over on this channel. But those are a lot of projects to balance, I guess.
13realmusic What are the best ones to start with from her personal channel? I really like her in these series and want more :)
@@Kelseyveg I think I started by watching her video essays for things like Disney movies, like she did one for the Hunchback of Nortre Dame while at the Cathedral back before the disaster happened. She covers a lot of popular movies, so I'd watch maybe her Phantoms of the Opera, Mad Max or Star Wars essays. She also does overall media videos like explaining what an Oscar bait movie is, or loose canons explaining how fictional or otherwise characters have been depicted in cinema through the years. She's done a ton of research especially with regards to Disney, so those may be the most fun to start out with.
Although the show was fantasy in many ways in its day, and downright anachronistic now, it got a lot of relationship beats right. I'll re-watch it now and then and realize I've dated 'that guy' or had a similar relationship challenge as one of the main characters since the last time and I'll relate to it in a new way.
definitely.. it's so much more relatable to me now than way back in my 20s when it was airing.. the fashions were fun to see, but I never got caught up into that aspect.. their interpersonal relationships and melodramas keep me watching til this day..
Anyways, I still want the blue Manolos...
The apartment was rent controlled 750 dollars a month :)
Even more of a reason to have $40,000 in the bank! lol
Aishah A true
@@princess_intell I would kill for that as a Chicagoan.
I would kill for that as an Ohioan! She had a huge apartment!
Uhm, hallo, Munich in Germany over here...
For her apartment, we would pay at least 2500-3000 € (about 2771-3326 $). And of course with a regular rent increase 😖😕!
Can we have lindsay always? Thanks
I choose to believe she was a role model to young, young women who don't know any better and want a glamorous life... I was one of those young women. Then I grew the hell up and I hope ALL the young women who wanted a SATC lifestyle did because it's awful, unrealistic, segregated af, full of poor choices, and doesn't require introspection and responsibility. Yikes. It's hard to watch the show now! 😂 I also never really liked Carrie's character because she was an overgrown child. I vibed with Miranda's strong opinions and female empowerment and Samantha's ability to be honest with her friends when they were full of bs, and her self love. It's definitely a show of it's time that didn't age well, lol.
lydiabeetz As a non-American I watched it as a faux documentary on the New York fantasy. 😀 Yes, it's difficult to watch now, like most shows where the plot moves because of the stupid choices of most of the cast.
I loved the show then. Last time I watched it was 2014... Now I cringe
I think it only captured a certain style of woman I thought it was utter stupidity when it was popular and I was a young adult. None of my friends were that silly or vain!
I still love it for the nostalgia and entertainment factor. But yes, you are right, so much was wrong with it. I used to want to be Carrie and live that lifestyle, have the clothes and the shoes and what not. But like you I grew up and realized I am Miranda and I am so proud of that fact now...actually can’t stand Carrie anymore. I get that she had to learn lessons, but I still feel even after watching the show and movies that she’s so self-centered and self destructive.
Carrie was my original influencer lol I think she brought high end to the masses, I never knew about that world before watching (or maybe it was just my age) Pretty smart of Dior too to be pushing that saddle bag again but this time through social media. I remember watching the Instagram stories of all the Influencers receiving them at the same time, still think it is ugly though lol. I know there are a lot of people who don't realize that this girls are paid to wear this stuff (its obvious for some but not others) I think it takes the magic out of it for me a bit. I was sent a Coach bag to promote on my instagram a couple of years ago (I don't even think I have enough followers to be called an influencer, just around 10k) but I thought it was interesting how coach decided to market with smaller instagrammers, I saw an article that mentioned there was a higher amount of trust for influencers in a certain range of followers (not big enough to be corrupt yet your something lol) anyways long comment! I just find the evolution of advertising in the age of social media really interesting.
Silvana Maria Lovetri - I’m even smaller than you, and I’ve gotten tons of free product to the point that I’ve stopped accepting them. It’s just too much that I’ll never be able to consume it. I do beauty, so I get tons of skincare, some makeup and even Amazon products. So a lot of it it’s perishables. I’ll try to use what I have now, before accepting more.
I think Sex and the City also contributed to the rise in popularity of Brazilian waxes in the 2000s!
When i saw this as a teenager, they showed the glamorous Newyork. You never get to see subway and other side of the Newyork- the reality.
I never realized what a giant advertisement that show was.
This was awesome. Social media has really transformed the way we get advertisements and its just another example of how many ways we have to make money out here.
The Cash Compass I love this perspective
Ashlee Carrero thank you!
There’s an episode were Aiden is cooking and their talking about her buying her apartment. He sends her down to get tomatoes and she mentions she can’t buy her apartment because she doesn’t have any money and is even charging tomatoes on her credit card.
Which is in itself an interesting remark nowadays. I mean, everyone uses their credit cards for everything. No one thinks twice about buying tomatoes with their credit card. (Plus you get cashback rewards, points, and build a credit history.)
saltycrunch yeh only worth it if you pay full each Month so no interest is charged. I don’t think carries character was the in charge of her finances type. She was whinny and weak and needed a rich man she could live off. Hence big who had the cash to flash. Aidan was financially frugal and was too boring for her as he would have laughed at the crap she wasted money on
I love Lindsay Ellis & I love The Financial Diet! This month's collab is a dream come true
My mom hates this show. Whenever it comes on TV she’s like “not this again, do these women have nothing else to do but gossip and drink?” It makes me laugh so hard cause it’s true 😂 no one lives like this even back in the 80s/90s
I’ve been loving these Lindsay Ellis/TFD collabs. more please!
Oh, now I get why Andy from the devil wears Prada wanted to go to Magnolia's for her boyfriends birthday. I never liked Sex and the City, maybe deep down I've always been an anti consumerist.
Miranda also has dinner with her husband at Pastis.
(...Yeah I basically know that movie by heart)
So different 😤👊😳
Funny how the culture has changed, I am 20 now and I watched the show a few years ago... I always found the product placement funny. I could see how they were pushing trends. The Manolos, Cosmopolitan, San Pellegrino sparkling water, locations, it bags etc... It was probably unheard of those times
I've seriously been loving these, hope they don't stop at the end of January.
The difference with Sex n the City and youtube influencers is that SNTC was both funny and stylish and the second ones are NOT!
And it was subtle and I never felt like I had to buy something. It was like showcasing a product that you if you want it it’s available.
I mean is 2020 and I still wanna wear that types of clothes that she wore. Just cause of her lol
Love this analysis. Always enjoyed this show and getting to see its flaws and how it influenced so much is so interesting.
This is the best series on TFD other than the ones with Chelsea! Please don’t let it end!! So much thought and research goes into each episode and I love that real media examples are shown too. I’m a big fan!!!
That show always made me so depressed
Jason Ready I know right
Kinda like all the fake stuff on FB/social media does now? 😄
This Comment is interesting. I would watch it and see the funny side and also sadness, or -- introspection. Well-written show. And loved the visuals of NYC, beautiful.
I just noticed how everyone wants to be an influencer these days, yet most of us are just the people that are influenced every day. I really like this channel takeover by the way. The topics are right up my alley. Sidenote: I always thought Carrie must be a trust fund child. Overwise there is no way she can live that lifestyle. Do they say in the show that she earned the money herself?
They want people to go in debt
I love getting moar Lindsay! This series is great!
Love you Lindsay! You always put so much time and effort in to your analysis. So insightful and interesting! Thank you! ❤️❤️❤️
*cue in LABELS OR LOVE by Fergie* because that was a song that everyone under-appreciated..
2 things made this show IMMORTAL and UNIVERSAL, is the GENIUS SCREEN PLAY and the great ACTING... THE ACTING IS PERFECTION... THE 4 GIRL DELIVERED PERFECTION, and I spea English as a 4th language.
Actually the flourless chocolate cake was featured, Carrie asks for it in one of the episodes with Charlotte
Carrie’s spending habit is so cringeworthy.
especially when it bites her in the ass and she’s like “hOW diD thIs hAPPen”
You know she’s...not real right?
florenceandthemakeup well, yes? what’s your point?
SATC kinda promoted designers/trends and made them skyrocket, just as Oprah did with “Oprah’s favorite things”.
I can literally remember the following things becoming popular because of this show:
1.) Manolo Blahnik’s
2.) The Fendi Baguette
3.) The “Cosmopolitan” martini
4.) Magnolia Bakery
5.) Sushi Samba
6.) Barney’s
7.) The original Dior Saddle bag
I said this to my sister since they pushed shoes and cosmopolitans so much haha
Her apartment was rent controlled at $750 a month, which is about $1,300 in 2021. Definitely unrealistic, as most people have to have roommates in NYC to be paying that little for an apartment as big as Carrie’s.
In the book The Tastemakers by David Sax, Sax uses the cupcake episode to frame the topic of how we get these “food trends” that appear. It’s a little dated now but super interesting.
Thank you for the recommendation!
I only started watching it last year, but I find the leads’ relationship so charming.
Loved the video! Pleeeease make the Lindsay Ellis segment a regular in this channel
I could never relate to Carrie. It was blatantly obvious to me that Big was never in love with her.
This
I finally found you again I'm so happy, I love your analysises
My favorite show. 😍 I need a 3rd movie.
I have loved this series and I hope it continues beyond January!
Great content! I really enjoyed this. Yoy have a great style. Loving the face you made about the possibility of a 3rd SATC movie. Same! 😅
I'm in love with this format! Keep it going, please!
Carrie was the most cringeworthy female character in the TV history. Bratty, entitled, dependent and beyond immature. Can’t believe she was a role model to so many girls and women.
Andrea Vodickova I would say her appeal came from an honest, not so perfect portrayal of her dating life and character. At least in the first couple seasons, I was drawn to the fact that she and her friends didn’t have a cookie cutter, perfect lifestyle where everyone seemed to have everything together (I feel like there was no tv shows specifically like this when it came out, esp for the working woman). I liked that I could relate to going on bad dates or making silly mistakes in my 20s, but in the end know that everything would probably work out just fine.
alongforthememories making silly mistakes...like when she slept with Mr. Big who was married...pfff. Yeah, maybe first season was all fun and games living a cool life in Manhattan having a cool job. But her shitty personality always f uped everything. She totally deserved Mr. Big leaving at the altar. He was such a douche. They were made for each other. Destroying each other for the end of times.
Andrea Vodickova lol. Someone seems upset with life in general.
Agree. And as someone who lived in nyc during the late 80’s through the 90’s, I can tell ya this show was beyond unrealistic. And I made a hella- more money than a “column writer” for a NY post.
Andrea Vodickova and to be honest, she wasn’t that great of a friend. But realizing this almost 20 years ago makes me hella cringe.
One of my favourite all time series !
Product placement [brand influencing] has been intergrated into tv and movies show forever! It certainly did not start with sex & the city. One of the goals of modern media is to influence mindset and push trends and agendas.
lov lindsey and TFD... great vid
Lindsay should become a regular. Great writing and content!
Lol I love that I went to magnolia bakery as a student in Chicago way after the show ended and I don't think I ever really got a cupcake. The icebox cake was always the best.
I didn't even realize it was a New York think till much later on.
I don't know why, but I still love this show and movie so so much 😍😍😍😍
Ah yes, the Camel reps. They got me through my 20's.
Talking about product placement, I got me a « rabbit » because of SATC. I loved this show so much I have watched it all twice. And watching the reboot.
I love Carrie Bradshaw! I loved how she lived like a fashionable bohemian and I love her shabby chic studio apartment. I don’t understand the backlash her character gets. At the end of the day she’s a fun fictional tv character. Nobody lives like that in real life but who cares, that’s the fun of the show. It was glamorous, fun and funny. At the age of 32 I now have my own shabby chic studio apartment and my own walk in closet full of stylish but modestly priced clothes, shoes and handbags. Couldn’t be happier!☺️
Cristina Rivera with you here on this. Me thinks a lot of people are crying oh I’m a Miranda and fuck Carrie because these are the times we live in NOW. Twenty years from now things might be different and everyone will want to be a Charlotte 🤷♀️. Not a lot of perspective happening here. I love Carrie’s character, she was flawed and the show didn’t pretend that she wasn’t, that was thing. I think she was kind of an antihero.
Oh wow, Lindsay! Never new she was on TFD
so excited to see Lindsay Ellis branching out! SO AMAZING!!!
This was very insightful. Thank you for your analysis !
Also, this is off the topic, and I mean it in the most respectfull way : you are gorgeous. Have a lovely day !
I started to binge watching sex in the city last week.
So random this episode comes on the radar 😲
I feel like this show spawned an early 2000s influx of content surrounding rich people doing rich people things like Gossip Girl, The Clique Series and more in the young adult book world.
Well Gossip Girl was more healthy in that matter because they were rich kids, we all knew they were in a whole different dimension sex and the city told us middle class could spend what rich people did. while GG told guys don’t try to copy those kids life style.
Sex and city and Gossip Girl are the representation of movie stars vs fashion RUclipsrs.
@@sarizonana I've actually never watched it, can't get into it culturally at this point. But I've heard that complaint about Carrie and her "working poor" self affording the most irresponsible lifestyle for someone early in their career. They also did that with Dan in Gossip Girl in as far as there's no way he could live in their nice apartment and go to the same school without being very upper middle class, but they frame it like he's "poor" Hollywood rarely portrays the working poor/low middle class realistically
@@13realmusic I guess then Dan was kind of an inconsistent character but the other kids were crazy rich we knew it was a whole different world they were living so we didn’t try to copy their life style that much. We loved a dress Serena wore we all tried looking for something similar according to our budgets.
Anyway according to the RUclips Chanel ALux Gossip Girl is unrealistic in terms of these rich kids dressing style.
ALux says rich young people who come from old money don’t dress that cool. They wear super expensive clothes and bags but not well non luxury brands. According to ALux old money rich are much more discreet
@@sarizonana nah, just TV show writers define poor as middle class so Dan was "poor" comparative to old money. The whole show is a mess but I love it! I believe it with the old money, but also in general the hyper stylization of teens in entertainment if you go back to Clueless it really started there. The costume designer was very clear teens did not dress like that, but they wanted to do something fun. There's a night and day difference from 80s to early 90s teens on screen vs later 90s onwards. Also pretty sure because I did read this stuff years ago, Gossip Girl and like The Clique were basically written by people who lived in those spaces and the designer looks were a big thing but in subtle accessories like bags, shoes and sunglasses. It's been years, but that's how I remember the characters described the only things that were "flashy"
@@13realmusic true to all that. Now also Gossip Girl is a show heavily based on fashion. Fashion and luxury was its main attraction. I loved that show too and while being a mess hey at least as I said it’s healthier in the women’s financial decisions than sex and the city.
This video compared Sex and city to Social media celebrities while now I’d say Gossip Girl is the representation of old school celebrities.
Sex and the city made luxury fashion look accessible and easy to get, like with bloggers confuse girls every girl can buy a luxury brand bag meanwhile GG told us what we always felt with Nicole Kidman, Britney Spears or Giselle bunchen that high end brand were for the rich people that’s why it’s luxury.
It’s healthier for our personal finances the approach of GG and loving the traditional celebrities. That high end is for the crazy rich, to not try that lifestyle not having that budget. I don’t hate social media celebrities. I like a lot of them however I always tell myself that they are the new big celebrities to not feel frustrated for owning Chanel, Prada or Gucci.
Sex and the City made me want to move to NYC! It was glam, and fun! Still love watching old episodes, still quote lines from the girls!
That sound effect for NYC rent hit too close to home.
This makes so much sense!! A couple of years ago this article www.inladiesroom.cl/2017/06/carrie-bradshaw-la-fashion-blogger-de.html talked about the same stuff and I can't stop thinking about nowdays influencers and fashion bloggers away from Carrie and all she did in early 00´
Good to see there is a lot of people thinking the same
I loved this show when it came out. However, it was a moment in time that looks pretty distant now and really was all about hyper-consumerism. Before marriages, before kids and before mortgages when cosmos in wine bars, brunches with the girls, over the top priced desserts, shopping for something to do and going to the hair salon religiously were all the rage. It is fun period of time but not much saving was going on, and not something that could continue forever lol.
You should feature a speaker whose hate and disapproval for the show she’s talking about is not so noticeable.
I think it was about three years ago when I realized Carrie Bradshaw the the F'Girl of all F'Girls!
I own all the shows and movies on DVD and I do not want a 3rd movie or even a Carrie pre-quel.
Interesting! Thank you.
I never watched a single episode of Sex and the City, but I will watch Lindsey Ellis.
Never expected to see Lindsay when I randomly clicked on this video. What a nice surprise! :)
I LOVE THIS ANALYSIS
It is interesting to note that the lavish lifestyles became even more lavish in the movies. I haven’t seen the movies in years but I remember wondering how these women afforded these palatial hotels and first class plane tickets and designer EVERYTHING in the second movie. It was like they were all billionaires. So unrealistic. The downside is that so many people (mostly women) went into debt as a result of the need to emulate these false representations of real life.
Brendan Dalton The movies, and especially the second movie are only produced to make money. It’s such a poor thing. The show will forever be Iconic. The movies was simply about showing off a lavish lifestyle. I adored the show back in the day. I loved the everyday life of the girls in New York City. Sex and the City will forever be my favorite show, and I will just pretend the story ends after the final episode. Because the movies where really really bad. I’m thankful for Kim Cattrall (Samantha) not willing to do any more movies.
Håkon Asker totally agree. The movies were drastically different than the show. The show had some great writing.
The hotel was paid for by Samantha Jones 's prospective client, remember?
My bf's cousin went to NYC only because of Sex and The City and Manolo Blahnik. LMFAO!
Product placement is very normal but the idea of her being an influencer is kind of spot on. There's a Sex and City coffee table book where they discuss the fashion and Carrie's spending and the writer and the show's head of costume said that it's sort of an unspoken operating principle that Carrie has these things because designers gift them or loan them to her because of her visibility, popularity and lifestyle. So yep, influencer life.
4:53 OHHH this is what "Magnolia Money" means!
I bought the three body problem after Lindsey mentioned it in her last video so she is technically an influencer
Oohh I recently read it! It's amazing! I adored Ye Wenji!
@@VictoriaMeira7 Aaah... Haven't read the sequel where the slacker protagonist imagines his ideal submissive waifu and the government official pulls her out of the database just for him so he could slack his way towards saving the world cause he's quite literally the chosen one?
And then the brilliant solution that saves the world is just good ole MAD.
3BP books are crap. But they do offer insight into Chinese cultural hangups and the party's view towards the outside world.
I never did watch Sex and the City, but now I feel better (and worse) about my salary as a writer.
I catch myself buying way too many clothes that I don't need whenever I re-watch the show.
Still my favorite show ❤️
Loved seeing Lindsay here!
I fucking love Lindsay Ellis congrats on your success
Honestly, as shady as it can be at times, the idea of influencer marketing (either social media or iconic shows) is actually a brilliant way to market not only for the products but for those pushing the products who are getting paid to do/buy/have things they already covet. Its misused often, but it's still an extremely profitable strategy.
Great video!
Magnolia Bakery also featured on The Devil Wears Prada, where Anne Hathaway gets cupcakes for her boyfriend's birthday
I miss Lindsay….
I love Lindsay's episodes!
I love Lindsey Ellis 🥰
I comment for Lindsay and the algorithm!!
God, you do amazing work!
I always related more to Miranda but loved Charlotte's wasp elegance