MSR Pocket Rocket vs BRS 3000T Stove
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- In this video I compare the MSR Pocket Rocket stove to the BRS 3000T stove. Which one boils water faster?
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I own both if these stoves. The pocket rocket 2 is still in the red box it came in. Used it once. Have thought of selling it. My BSR3000t has been carried in my backpack for a 3000 trail miles! I used for my successful Colorado Trail thruhike in 2021. Last year I successful thruhiked the Appalachian Trail and used my BSR3000t every night on trail. Love it!
Can I cook full meal like chicken and rice separately for one person
Thanks for the video, sir. Have a good day, brotha.
I have the BRS 3000 and multiple other stoves, though I don’t have the Pocket Rocket. The BRS 3000 works very well and it’s never failed me. Not the greatest stove in the wind though. While a couple of ounces of weight is a lot, overall weight savings may not be there over a more fuel efficient stove, as fuel has weight also. If you are looking for a budget UL stove, I recommend it.
I have both stoves. For longer hikes I use the MSR as it is more gas-efficient and has a way better performance in wind. For weekend UL trips where I’m in a hut or shelter, the BRS is just fine.
I use both. Generally, if cooking for one I use the BRS; if for two or more, the MSR.
Turning the burner up as high as it can go will almost never be the most fuel efficient way to bring water to a boil, so the difference in fuel-efficiency may not be as great as the time-to-boil efficiency.
Both good stoves, best in different circumstances.
I have both. The Pocket Rocket is needed for larger pots, but I’m cooking food less and less these days - holidays are not for cooking meals! I now just want a stove that will heat a small cup of water for tea, coffee and hot chocolate, or to heat through some soup or noodles. I have a 375ml cup and the BRS is perfect for this.
As ya stated, Hike Oregon: "it depends on what's important...to you." Awesome review! It's all about the altitude, climate, temperature of your excursion. A few days in the Adirondacks or the abundantly wet Cascades, says a-lot about what stove you should carry. And if the weather is very dry(and windy), don't even consider using a stove, let alone creating a fire. For everyday, the BRS & MSR, are excellent choices. For long excursions in wet/damp/humid territory I prefer the Jetboil Genesis. The MSR WindBurner, is a lifesaver for warming hands on a windy day ice-fishing.
For a third of the weight and a third of the price and similar performance, it's a no brainier for me. But l usually only boil water for coffee and single serve meals.
I have both and both work. The brs fits in my cook cup along with a lighter and a folding spoon making it a space saver in a small pack
To me, it is less about which is a better stove and more what style cook kit are you putting together. I see the BRS as a super compact kit stove ( like 750ml pot at most) and the MSR as a more jack of all trades. It can fit larger pots, smaller pots and has a lot more adjustment.
That said, the BRS is 1/3 the price and 1/3 the weight. And waaaay more compact. But the MSR is still a king among stoves.
I would be leery of using a stove that costs 16 dollars for anything more then making coffee on a day hike but have the MSR it works great. One trick I learned to use less fuel was to get your water and let the sun or ambient temperature warm it up will boil faster....especially if its snow melt water
Great comparison. I think a gear locker, with options based on trip needs, has a shelf worthy of both. ( And 5 or 6,7,8 more🙃)
I have a MSR Pocket Rocket and a Snow Peak Titanium stove. Both work great. The Snow Peak is a little smaller and lighter. If I had to do it over again, I would go with the BRS stove. It is the smallest and lightest canister stove I know of. I am not concerned if it takes a little longer to boil water because the Snow Peak and BRS fit better in my small pot than the MSR Pocket Rocket.
Awesome. I have both and a knock off version of something. That’s it. I love that I can choose, depending on trip or conditions what I will bring.
Curious if you've ever brought both as a backup.
never. i always go with others who also have a stove, if something were to happen to mine.
Another awesome vid from Hike Oregon! The one thing you didn't check was fuel usage. The MSR may be using more fuel at full flow than the BRS at full. You would have to weigh the fuel canister before and after each boil to find that out. Also, it there have been several tests done that show a full, or wide open setting on gas stoves do not shorten boil times but do decrease efficiency; using more fuel to achieve the same result. I used the BRS for my entire thru-hike of the PCT and it worked great, so it will also be with me on the CDT next year. Though I am no gram weenie, I do understand that grams add to ounces add to pounds.
Nice comparison! Let's see, this couldn't be a series::
- With/without lid
- Using different thickness pots
- Weigh the fuel amount used each time
- Compare isopro, butane, alcohol, white gas, kerosene, auto glass, etc.
-30, 40, 50, 60, 70 ambient temperatures
I’ll definitely do one where I weigh the fuel. 👍🏼
Lovely video albeit with an extreme comparison , cost weight compactness and performance . Owning both stoves I see the points magnified ,as ballistic as the build quality is on the MSR pocket rocket , its hard not to have a sweet spot for the diminutive BRS 3000t which all but disappears in a daypack and offers better performance over rival alcohol stoves occupying similar space.
another great gear review. Eager to see you on the trail.
Very soon. Doing a PCT section in June.
The MSR Pocket Rocket has a windscreen (it does get windy outdoors) I couldn't tell if the BRS had a windscreen. I appreciate Hike Oregon gear tests like this. Perfect timing too as the weather is warming up for outdoor activities. My money is on the MSR Pocket Rocket. WIndscreen and stability are two pluses for me.
Yea the stability is a big issue for me since I have a wider pot. Many hikers have a smaller more narrow pot so the BRS would be just fine but for my pot it’s a little sketch.
It'd be interesting to compare the weight of fuel used with each, and balance that with the weight of the stoves. Maybe one is lighter overall for shorter trips with less burns, compared to another for longer trips with more burns. Thanks for the video!
I have both, personally, I would stay with the MSR, it more reliable, I do like my BRS for day trips..
Just my opinion.
I use the BRS because it is cheap and light. When I am out backpacking cook time for meals is not an issue.
But longer boil times equal more fuel consumption!
@@robertclark8044 sorry that just doesn't make sense. Sort of like saying a dragster that can reach 60mph faster than a Prius, that the dragster is more fuel efficient!
@@ericsutherland7732 Search RUclips and you will find tests of fuel consumption that show the BRS costumes more.
@@robertclark8044 I've seen them but the rationale that longer boil times mean less efficiency is overly simplistic and doesn't account for the boil rate fuel burn port sizes etc.
@@ericsutherland7732 Several of these tests weigh the canisters before and after and guess what, they show the BRS uses more fuel.
I recently picked up the BRS after Darwin’s recommendation. Looking forward to giving it a try. I honestly love the convenience of my Jetboil, but thought I’d try out some smaller/lighter options.
Pot stability in backcountry is important. Having scalding hot water dump off the stove is scary. The MRS pocket rocket and Snowpeak Giga Power are the leading canister stoves for a reason.
The BRS 3000 is a great stove as long as the wind isn't blowing more than 2 mph, or the O-rings don't arrive cracked, or the internal debris doesn't clog the jets, or the arm supports melt.
Hello, I have the BRS 3000T. I don’t have the MRS Pocket Rocket. I would like the MRS Pocket Rocket because of its reliability but it is just too expensive for me. Thanks for the comparison. Take Care and Keep Exploring The Outdoors.
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if you go on Amazon and checkout the reviews you'll see your not missing out. Pocket rocket has really poor reviews.
I wouldn't trust Amazon reviews. Apparently you don't even have to buy the item on Amazon to review it, so people can just write whatever. Every hiker I have seen who uses the Pocket Rocket LOVES it and it holds up a bit better and is more reliable than the BRS stove. Like I said in the video, mine is about 20 years old and still works great.
Thats the MSR Pocket Rocket 2.0, i have the original and the BRS stove. The BRS is great I take it now over the other. I also have the GSI pot as well but opted for the MSR titanium 750ml kettle. The thinner msr kettle helps me cut down on boil time. For me its just the weight savings I'm concerned with.
That would make sense that a thinner pot would mean less cook time. I hadn’t thought about that. 👍🏼👍🏼
Actually, water boils at a lower temperature the higher you are, and therefore, boils sooner. Has no bearing on the comparison, though.
Dude, higher altitude raises the boiling temperature.
Great comparison thanks
Thanks for watching.
Since the BRS is so susceptible to wind, it would be interesting to see boil times with and without a windscreen.
Totally. Both are very susceptible to wind. When I get around to making a wind screen I will definitely try that.
Great videos. I have a suggestion. It would be interesting to weigh the fuel canister afterwards and see if one uses more fuel. If I were to guess, I'd say that they probably use about the same amount of fuel to boil the water, just that the BRS is smaller, has a smaller flame which takes longer. Other than that, thanks for making these videos. They have given me some good ideas for places to go and things to get.
Yes I should have seen how much fuel each burns. My guess is they’re very similar as far as burn rate.
@@HikeOregon There are other videos on RUclips that suggest the BRS uses more fuel to boil the same amount of water.
I can see why.
Thanks for your video. I am thinking about buying msr stove.
Excellent choice.
I've just bought the same brs here in the uk. £17. We'll see how it does long term eh? Off to the lake district early 4.30am monday to do some Nuttall hills around Coniston Water. Thanks for the vids. Graham
Have fun on your trip👍🏼
@@HikeOregon cheers ears! Keep up the excellent work! 👍
Just made this switch
Nice!
🤔 though you had the stoves swapped, the BRS looks about the same as the MSR Pocket Rocket 2
Much appreciated! I’ve been meaning to change it up from the space consuming jet boil… One thing I wonder is if the fuel efficiency difference might lead to the need to pack more fuel on the longer treks. Maybe the bio fuel stoves are the way to go?
I’ll try to make a video in the near future and test to see which uses more fuel, jetboil, pocket rocket or brs.
"Bio fuel" as in grass, twigs, and sticks? That depends on if you're in fire closure areas, which typically restrict to stoves that can be instantly turned off through a valve. Of course a simple campfire is the most compact and lightest carry 😉
@@HikeOregon That would be appreciated! I’m not aware of any hard data on comparative fuel consumption, but if you’re looking at an extended trek, it’s an important factor.
@@memathews Well, like a solo stove cooker, which may be categorized similarly to fuel torch or and old school alcohol burner… Definitely prudent to check up on the restrictions though!
Would be nice to compare fuel consumption
I’ll do that in a future video. I’ll compare all 3, the BRS, Pocket rocket and jetboil.
My girlfriend has the B.O.B.(battery operated boy) Pocket Rocket, it doesn't look at all like yours. I think my girlfriends isn't a stove burner, it seems more like a portable margarita blender especially when turned on high pulse speed, not sure😕. Anyway thanks for the video and happy hiking!😉
My pocket rocket is 20 years old and doesn’t look like the new ones.
Great comparison, I'm sticking with the Rocket.
Neither is better, both are best.
My BRS seems to use less fuel than my pocket rocket
Water does not take longer to boil at higher altitude. It boils at a lower temperature which takes less time. Cooking times must invariably be increased due to the lower cooking temperatures possible.
Huh?????
@@HikeOregon - In the video you said that water takes longer to boil at higher altitudes. It doesn’t. It boils more quickly, but at a lower temperature.
Your grass looks so nice.
Thank you. We do love our yard.
Ha!
All the lightest stoves of the renowned manufactureres are in the order of 70-100g. I find it more than suspicious if a super cheap stove comes around the corner weighing only a third. Makes me wonder what they compromised on. And with the reports of BRS failures, I certainly wouldn't trust the thing, particularly for safety reasons. Anyway, I just ordered myself a pocket rocket deluxe and I'm eager to test it against the PR2 :)
Which one was louder?
Both about the same on full flame.
I know a lot of you don't care if it takes longer to boil water but longer boil times equals more fuel consumption. If you backpack often enough this will negate the cheaper price of the BRS in the long run. I have also heard people complain that if you run the BRS too long at one time that the pot support arms can deform. It would be interesting to see if the Pocket Rocket 2 performs any better. This is the original she tested and it's rather old. How does the updated model do? Enjoy your videos!
When I get the updated pocket rocket I will definitely test it. For now I can’t justify the cost of buying it when my 20 year old one works perfectly well. The BRS wouldn’t be a great stove to use if you have to actually cook and do more than just boiling water. The arms are most definitely not as sturdy as the pocket rocket.
Weight savings > cook time
But more cook time = more fuel weight… 🤔
The original Pocket Rocket was a terrible design too tall and narrow. Easy to dump a pot. The BRS is fantastic, lower and works great with wider pots or folding pots like Sea to Summit X series.
I love my original pocket rocket. It’s 20+ years old and still works fantastically. I found the brs to be way too small for my size pot and I was scared it was going to fall off and spill especially somewhere not on super even ground.
@@HikeOregon isn’t that hilarious, I feel thr opposite way. Zero issues w my BRS but while the Pocket Rocket worked well and loud we had more spills. Lol.
@@hoser7706 +1 for the BRS
The BRS uses the same amount of fuel it just takes longer.
I am definitely going to make a video testing out the most popular stoves to see which one is most efficient.
Brs is an awful stove... Only plus is how light it is
If you want a decent stove go and get yourself a soto windmaster.. A better stove than both of these, and I have all 3
Does the Soto have a piezo igniter? Thanks.
@@dougieranger yep it has an internal piezo igniter
@@ryanletchford2450 Is it worth the extra weight and pack size?
@@dougieranger most definitely, it's reliable, durable, super efficient on your gas and can take bigger pots, plus you don't have to worry about the wind, I take it on every trip now and it's never let me down
@@ryanletchford2450 That’s a great recommendation Ryan, thanks mate, I appreciate that. Best wishes from Scotland.
everybody should always have a lighter, everywhere they go.
and another thing
get the jetboil
Ounces are pounds, pounds are pain
Sure thing, but I've seen 2 BRS stoves fail, so I rather carry something that is a few ounces more if that means I get to eat. If you're hiking with others it probably doesn't matter as much since you could use their stove, but if you're hiking alone, I would never take the BRS.
And pain is weakness leaving the body