If only this version of king krimson had persisted longer. 80’s king krimson is the best version of this band, insane soundscapes, off the wall without being strung out, able to make the oddest catchy songs and some songs that its hard to imagine how they came up with. Raw, passion, insane technicality, dreamlike, spanning the gamete and treading new ground
It would have been nice, but I think Fripp felt this version of Crimson had gone as far as they could. My understanding is, Fripp had these long range plans he did in those days. He'd have these three years campaigns, he called them. The first was the Drive to 1981, which encompassed the period from 1978-1981, which was followed by The Slide To 1984. I only vaguely remember (and honestly, at the time, only vaguely understood) the stuff he said in interviews, but I have the impression that he only intended early 80's King Crimson to last for three years, and three albums. Or at least that was the commitment he made in 1981. I imagine by 1984, he had worked out what he wanted to do next, which was Guitar Craft (and, at least initially, a smattering of Frippertronic concerts). So I think he felt like it was time to put King Crimson to rest again, so he could assume his new role as guitar teacher (that's effectively what was in regards to Guitar Craft, albeit on an extremely advanced, "music school" level), which led to the League Of Crafty Guitarists. I don't think he went back to playing electric music until Sunday All Over The World, which I think was something like 1988 or 1989.
@@RichieG As someone that got into King Crimson with their early stuff, it was really hard for me to get into the 80s stuff and I bounced off hard. I also have a huge bias with the 80s because I feel like more bands that were great in the 60s and 70s made a horrible transition to the 80s and started sounding like corporate hollow music. This new Beat tour actually got me to revisit the 80s stuff and I'm starting to really love and appreciate it.
The people dancing is an easy choice to make as 80s Crimson has huge roots in New Wave and African music as well as proto Math, Thrash, and Industial Rock but in the process of making Discipline they decided they wanted to make music more people could enjoy so that they could diversify there sound and be commercially successful. Sleepless was actually apart of Larks III but they split them so that they could have a self serving dance song. The cool thing about 80s Crimson is that you can dance, be enveloped, or analyze each song very easily ans in the process finds a new sound that is totally unique to anything before or sense, and put in place countless developments in music through this era of the band but also there popularization of early crimson, and also imo this is a perfect era to start king crimson, I got in through Beat and went through the discography with ease as before it was so inaccessible. Also each member kicks ass so hard no one can even compete in later incarnations, not even themselves!
How about Tony Levin playing keyboard and bass AT THE SAME TIME on Man With An Open Heart? Out of this world advanced beyond human comprehension extraterrestrial skill is what that is. The man must have two brains.
Now is hard to see gorgeous ladies dancing or just watching a King Crimson concert the today girls are on pop music ( crap not the pop of the 80s or 90s ) today the music is only noise .
Don Kurshner’s Rock Concert? I saw it, but can’t remember the show either. I’ll wake up in the middle of the night, IT WASN’T DON KURSHNER! It waaassszzzzzz…..
There was an episode of the sitcom The facts of life in 1984 where one of the girls was working as a dj at their college, and in the booth where they kept all their records there was a poster of Three of a perfect pair, if you think this is odd that was even more so.
That's nothing. One of the posters on Ferris Bueller's bedroom, is for a record called The Snake Charmer, which was a project by a French record producer named Francois Kevorkian, which featured members of the German band Can and also The Edge (yes, from U2), and Jah Wobble (from Public Image Limited).
He said he wanted to start making dance music before the Discipline album was recorded so he was probably more than happy since this _is_ dancable music as was some of Discipline & Beat as well as 3OAPP.
He probably never saw them. I'm almost positive the dancing girls is stock footage that was edited into the footage after the fact. They're probably dancing to Chic or somtehign.
@@paulbrocklehurst2346 Fripp DID make an album of dance music in 1980, called The League of Gentleman. Then he went on to start a project called Discipline, which turned into the 1980's incarnation of King Crimson.
@@andyharman3022 Yeah I remember reading a Melody Maker interview with RF from before Discipline was recorded where he talked about his intentions to explore this avenue of music which Discipline took further than League of Gentlemen
I do not know. I wish I did. But check back in a few days; I'll have another couple more TV appearances, one from "Fridays" (ABC's effort to grab some of the SNL success.)
I think it was called Showtime At The Palace, and aired on, I think, the Showtime channel. I actually remember seeing this when it first aired. It was the first time I had seen King Crimson on TV, or really, heard their music at all (apart from teh Sleepless video playing a couple times on MTV). I remember being impressed with Bill Bruford's hybrid acoustic/electronic drumkit, and in particular by the seven Simmons electronic drum pads mounted vertically behidn him (which he stands to play during his solo during the breakdown). Bill would go on to use variations on that for the next few years of his career, including with ABWH and the Yes Union tour. I also remember that shot of Tony Levin playing both synth and bass simultaneously during the Waiting Man intro.
There’s something fishy here… First : there’s a lot of girls in the audience and Second : They’re dancing!?!? And last but not least : Robert is smiling way too much but… Oh wait, ok that one must be linked to those 2 first points.
Congrats! You found all the strangest things about the video! In the 80s "Fridays" was an ABC or CBS late night sketch show attempt to get traction some SNL demographic. Younger target audience, but show was not bad actually. They had a dance floor a la Soul Train and (paid?) dancers for that "I belong here with these sexy girls" feeling!
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Those dancing crimson queens! 😍
0:23 Everybody gangsta until the ladies start dancing with King Crimson.
. Playing poly rhythms on top of the four on the floor kick. That's what made folks dance. Geniuses
If only this version of king krimson had persisted longer. 80’s king krimson is the best version of this band, insane soundscapes, off the wall without being strung out, able to make the oddest catchy songs and some songs that its hard to imagine how they came up with. Raw, passion, insane technicality, dreamlike, spanning the gamete and treading new ground
It's amazing how that formation of the band split fans between loving it or not.
It would have been nice, but I think Fripp felt this version of Crimson had gone as far as they could. My understanding is, Fripp had these long range plans he did in those days. He'd have these three years campaigns, he called them. The first was the Drive to 1981, which encompassed the period from 1978-1981, which was followed by The Slide To 1984. I only vaguely remember (and honestly, at the time, only vaguely understood) the stuff he said in interviews, but I have the impression that he only intended early 80's King Crimson to last for three years, and three albums. Or at least that was the commitment he made in 1981. I imagine by 1984, he had worked out what he wanted to do next, which was Guitar Craft (and, at least initially, a smattering of Frippertronic concerts). So I think he felt like it was time to put King Crimson to rest again, so he could assume his new role as guitar teacher (that's effectively what was in regards to Guitar Craft, albeit on an extremely advanced, "music school" level), which led to the League Of Crafty Guitarists. I don't think he went back to playing electric music until Sunday All Over The World, which I think was something like 1988 or 1989.
@@RichieG As someone that got into King Crimson with their early stuff, it was really hard for me to get into the 80s stuff and I bounced off hard. I also have a huge bias with the 80s because I feel like more bands that were great in the 60s and 70s made a horrible transition to the 80s and started sounding like corporate hollow music.
This new Beat tour actually got me to revisit the 80s stuff and I'm starting to really love and appreciate it.
The people dancing is an easy choice to make as 80s Crimson has huge roots in New Wave and African music as well as proto Math, Thrash, and Industial Rock but in the process of making Discipline they decided they wanted to make music more people could enjoy so that they could diversify there sound and be commercially successful. Sleepless was actually apart of Larks III but they split them so that they could have a self serving dance song. The cool thing about 80s Crimson is that you can dance, be enveloped, or analyze each song very easily ans in the process finds a new sound that is totally unique to anything before or sense, and put in place countless developments in music through this era of the band but also there popularization of early crimson, and also imo this is a perfect era to start king crimson, I got in through Beat and went through the discography with ease as before it was so inaccessible. Also each member kicks ass so hard no one can even compete in later incarnations, not even themselves!
i never thought i live to see dancing chicks into a Crimson song....what a time to be alive
Blame it on the 80's...
On the concert that I went to last year there was actually two girls dancing to some of their 70s songs
Gotta love Man With An Open Heart. Definitely my favorite KC song.
If there's anything cooler than Tony Levin playing "Elephant Talk" I have yet to see it.
How about Tony Levin playing keyboard and bass AT THE SAME TIME on Man With An Open Heart? Out of this world advanced beyond human comprehension extraterrestrial skill is what that is. The man must have two brains.
I think it’s funny everyone commenting on the dancers. The funny thing is that there are so many women there in the first place!
The paint job on Tony's bass is pristine. There are young people in the audience. Not only that but attractive young ladies dancing. Wow I'm old.
Now is hard to see gorgeous ladies dancing or just watching a King Crimson concert the today girls are on pop music ( crap not the pop of the 80s or 90s ) today the music is only noise .
Don Kurshner’s Rock Concert? I saw it, but can’t remember the show either. I’ll wake up in the middle of the night, IT WASN’T DON KURSHNER! It waaassszzzzzz…..
Wow! I had this on VHS also. I remember recording it from a TV broadcast but can’t remember the show. Haven’t seen this in probably 20 years.
There was an episode of the sitcom The facts of life in 1984 where one of the girls was working as a dj at their college, and in the booth where they kept all their records there was a poster of Three of a perfect pair, if you think this is odd that was even more so.
That's nothing. One of the posters on Ferris Bueller's bedroom, is for a record called The Snake Charmer, which was a project by a French record producer named Francois Kevorkian, which featured members of the German band Can and also The Edge (yes, from U2), and Jah Wobble (from Public Image Limited).
Thank you for posting
The bass guitar Tony is playing is the same one he played in 2017 in Red Bank, New Jersey. Nice!
11:45 Robert Fripp smiling, "We're really ganna f*** them up now..."
I wonder what Fripp thought of those dancing people
He said he wanted to start making dance music before the Discipline album was recorded so he was probably more than happy since this _is_ dancable music as was some of Discipline & Beat as well as 3OAPP.
He probably never saw them. I'm almost positive the dancing girls is stock footage that was edited into the footage after the fact. They're probably dancing to Chic or somtehign.
@@paulbrocklehurst2346 Fripp DID make an album of dance music in 1980, called The League of Gentleman. Then he went on to start a project called Discipline, which turned into the 1980's incarnation of King Crimson.
@@andyharman3022 Yeah I remember reading a Melody Maker interview with RF from before Discipline was recorded where he talked about his intentions to explore this avenue of music which Discipline took further than League of Gentlemen
@@Kohntarkosznah you can see the lights in the background during sleepless and then it cuts to the dancing women and the lights are there
Thank you so much
4:53
best song ever
lol this is a awkard video people dancing with King crimson songs
i dance to their music pussy
The 80s King Crimson is awkard really often...
yeah, BaBy!!!
Fripp smiling is way more odd than the dancing. These songs groove!
Adrian as NeXt Wave Zouave!!!
Never knew about this. What show is this from?
I do not know. I wish I did.
But check back in a few days; I'll have another couple more TV appearances, one from "Fridays" (ABC's effort to grab some of the SNL success.)
@@RichieG See if you can get all those songs!
I think it was called Showtime At The Palace, and aired on, I think, the Showtime channel. I actually remember seeing this when it first aired. It was the first time I had seen King Crimson on TV, or really, heard their music at all (apart from teh Sleepless video playing a couple times on MTV). I remember being impressed with Bill Bruford's hybrid acoustic/electronic drumkit, and in particular by the seven Simmons electronic drum pads mounted vertically behidn him (which he stands to play during his solo during the breakdown). Bill would go on to use variations on that for the next few years of his career, including with ABWH and the Yes Union tour. I also remember that shot of Tony Levin playing both synth and bass simultaneously during the Waiting Man intro.
There’s something fishy here… First : there’s a lot of girls in the audience and Second : They’re dancing!?!? And last but not least : Robert is smiling way too much but… Oh wait, ok that one must be linked to those 2 first points.
Congrats! You found all the strangest things about the video! In the 80s "Fridays" was an ABC or CBS late night sketch show attempt to get traction some SNL demographic. Younger target audience, but show was not bad actually. They had a dance floor a la Soul Train and (paid?) dancers for that "I belong here with these sexy girls" feeling!
i wasnt awere that sexy chicks like in the 9.01 minute mark like Progressive rock....ahahhaha, there is hope
Was a really young Toyah in this video?
Я одна, русская люблю , нет русских тут? Мой любимый альбом
I did not know that David Byrne sang for Crimson... oh, wait.....
That was genious-ism!
Are my ears deceiving me, or is this King Crimson flirting with surf music?
new wave. look at some of the tracks fripp played on the 70s and early 80s, talking heads, david bowie, daryl hall, brian eno etc
wire train