it was racist. saying the only reason she was won was based on her physical appearance/way she's built and NOT on her talent.....You don't have to reference someone's race or ethnicity for it to be racist.
they also put a racist comment on Audrey because of her tiny frame, that she is a weak and an amateur good for nothing dancer that will not win in the battle.
It was racist- a clear form of ‘micro-aggression’. It is striking to me that people dance hip-hop and rap songs, dresses alike and acts like black folks with all the attitude and then they can be so racist? If those dancers want to be international they better prepare to different people with different physiques. Work on yourself! Don’t belittle others for your ‘failure’.
Her coments were bigotry based. As she is not an actual judge, nor is she in charge of the judgment criteria, her coments can only be racist if she has / can have a direct affect on Latrice's outcome, in one way or another. Does she?
If Koreans are going to copy music genre's, beats, and rhythms from the black community, they need to educate themselves about culture, history, racism and much more about these communities. NO EXCUSES, WE ARE IN 2024. You can not copy the best parts of a community, then act like you live under a rock when it comes to you knowing the issues the community faces. It's also important to acknowledge the originality of the work so that you give credit where it'ss due. People tend to infer the following when talking about race. RACE = physical traits commonly shared among her and people who look like her globally RACE = Her belonging to a unique culture unique shared predominantly by people who look like her globally. While not everything is the same, there are things that are similar. RACE = Unique history that affects her and people who look like her RACE = Unique mannerisms RACE = Unique foods shared by the community and much more. As a black person she is more curvy than the Asian lady, and since this type of music originated from people who look like her back in African where it highlights some of these body parts then she will tend to look more natural dancing than the Asian lady no offense, especially if she is good. But besides her body the most important thing is culture, heritage and history. Growing up black, or African, this type of music genre is naturally exposed to you and the beats, the rhythm carries a deeper meaning when the people dance it. Its more than just a dance effort or performance. Its an expression of our ancestors and a connection we deeply share with them passed down from many generations. So, besides her being great at the dance, it could be her dance expressions looked more natural because she connected to the music, beats and ryrhm on a much deeper level than the Asian lady. To not consider these things and to reduce her winning to the physical abilities is to spit on the face of all Africans and their decentants whose music genre, beats and rhythm you are dancing to. Its ignorant, shallow, and a lack of understanding of humity and what makes us unique. Dear Korea, and the wider Asian community, lets do better and deal with the antiblackness in the community. Humanity is very diverse and beautiful, if we only focus on race we miss out of its beauty.
To be honest....hip hop dance has largely been taken over by the Asian ethnicities. So much so that many will swear up and down that it's no longer Black American culture at all. I've heard Korean men say that Kpop is only inspired by Hip Hop but they took it and made it better.
You didn't even watch the whole show and now judging Redlic by a clip. Instead of finding out the truth, believing some random youtuber who produces clickbait videos is what you did. As a person who finished the whole show, I only see that Redlic was confident about herself and was serious about grasping the opportunities. During the choreography choosing session, Latrice did admit that she didn’t even make an attempt to translate the lyrics of ‘click like’ to understand the content. In addition, Latrice didn’t choreograph the whole chorus part and she performed worse in leading the sub-leader class, including uncertainty about the details of her own choreography and uneven distribution of the center part. On the other hand, Redlic tried her best to fit the lyrics into her choreography and wanted to reach perfection. Considering the unseriousness Latrice showed and she didn’t put all her effort into the choreography, no wonder why Redlic felt unsatisfied with Latrice being the “commander” of the sub-leader class. Latrice’s attitude, ability and performance weren't persuasive enough to be the “commander”. This is the authentic reason for Redlic being unsatisfactory with the competition result, but not racism. Redlic and Latrice were friendly towards each other for the whole show, especially for the K-pop dance mission “Mannequeen” vs. “Jam Republic” part. How would Redlic be racist? Instead of blindly believing others’ wordings, learn to find out the truth by yourself.
All must keep opinion of yoursef don t thinks so she black be gpod dance. Have good improvar yes but orginal our siste asian grown up part is orginal k pop world for ever. White pure magic girl is the top best of best
I think they also underestimated how difficult Afro-Dance is too, I was surprised they had picked Latrice choreography as it was her specialty, Kirsten is probably they only person their that could match her at that style of dance. My biggest complaint is the fact that Mnet aired what Redlic said & then they didn’t elaborate on it in the following episode. With that being said they still follow each other on IG so they’re probably still on good terms. People forget these episodes were filmed over a month ago (teasers for the first few episodes released back in July) & a lot has happened between then & now. Also I just want to see the girls dance, this is the most dramatic dance show in existence & people are too invested in the conflicts. They’re trying to go global but aren’t doing a good job at convincing future international groups to join if conflict is all they see.
I know this is a month old but I need to correct you on something. For black people to succeed in most careers outside of niche cities and African countries, you literally have to play nice and be the "bigger" person all the time. Keeping professional connections and sometimes being an apologist for those who wrong us. So them following each other on IG means absolutely nothing. Tracing her from Australia, to China, now Korea, she literally has to suck it up. If she didn't she would get persecuted. Look what happen to Sam Okyere when he called out racist in Korea. They cancelled him. So I caution using those kid of "proofs" as proof of anything. We don't know. Won't ever know unless we become friends with them. It's part of the black experience.
Forget? Doesnt mean they follow each other they on good term what such bullshit. Latrice is just professional, Latrice ate her up everytime. Unfollowing each other would only cause more fuss and avoided it and koreans are one of the top 3 racist asians
It doesn't seem like anyone else had issues learning Latrices dance. Plus, ling, Emma, and Audrey had no issues either so that is kind of a silly thing to think. Everyone on that show are beyond talented, so all it takes is practice and patience to learn.
@@Annonymous5411 Sorry for the late reply. I agree with everything you said but tbh that applies to anyone trying to put their front foot in in a different environment. For example Zsun from Coco & Butter faced the same discrimination while teaching Dance Hall in the Caribbean & people there were frowning upon her. Not realising she was a student of some of the most legendary dancehall dancers such as Nickblackeagle & Boysierosesthelegend. This seems to be an issue beyond the black community. Also Latrice was massive in China & was shown a lot of love, the majority of her classes were sold out during her appearance at SDC. I respect Sam Okyere and agree with your statement, I’ve visited Korea multiple times & have faced discrimination during my visits there but I think people tend to forget that Korea is a conservative country. I mean last time I visited they had just voted in a Prime Minister that was openly against the LBGT community, & most of those votes were from Koreans under their 30s.
I respect him trying to stick up and make excuses for his own, but anyone can see the true intention there. If she can't compete then she needs to work harder. Nuff said
Indeed, I agreed of all what you said. In my opinion, Redlic can't accept herself that she will lose to Latrice. The title of the show is "STREET WOMAN FIGHTER", it's all about skills and talent competition not about she felt and she is so immature to said all that.
Black people get to decide what’s considered racist or not, It was a racial stereotype and also micro aggressive. I’ve seen this in a few Korean variety shows as well. She wouldn’t have treated Kirsten or the other Korean dancers that way. Crazy how a a lot of the dance they do, originates from black culture, yet this is the attitudes they have. If you respect the dance, genre etc or participate in it, you should respect the people that created it as well. If the things were turned around and Latrice made a comment, then she would have received a lot of backlash. Let’s call a spade a spade.
calm tf down. If you actually watched the full video, you'd see that he agrees that it was racist. And BTW, just because someone isn't black, it doesn't mean they can't speak up for us. How do we get rid of racism if only one side is speaking out against injustice? 🙄
Please.. This has been going on for decades now. Korean like to justify their racist behaviour. Just look at Sam okyere who spoke the truth.. Never again seen on tv yeah. The public basically turned on him heck they even use to call him black hyung. Korean are freaking colorist and I hate that. They can literally made fun of every culture and get away with apologist like you behind them and worst their obnoxious behaviour and ego of not admitting their fault. Like oh kroean also faces racism in other foreign countries so how the heck will that explain your racist behaviour. It's just the plain bitter truth of how general Koreans are when asked about racism. Not saying that all Korean is like that but in general.. I believe majority of them still have this mindset unless they went overseas and live among others or that they have and associated themselves with POC@@onyeenoma
"Black people get to decide what’s considered racist or not" No, not for other people. Black narcissism. "It was a racial stereotype and also micro aggressive" No.
@@anthonypuccetti8779 yes it was because you have to understand Korea has a history of downgrading people based on their skin, color and uplifting and elevating white people not all Koreans do it but it’s a part of the culture
@@anthonypuccetti8779Wow. You just coined your own little term, "black narcissism" to describe a historically prejudiced race, the black race, when it is pointing out these prejudices. Until you have experienced life while black you really have no right to accuse black people of being narcissistic just because they are sick and tired of being treated poorly just because they are black. I'm assuming by your name that you are Italian. You know absolutely bugger all about living in a black skin so just keep your miniscule, micro, nano aggression towards the black race to yourself. Thanks.
I think that what gives away the racist part is that even with all the backlash Redlic is receiving she hasn't even tried to explain what she meant, so either she doesn't care (which, I mean, daaamn girl, you do you but that's very low) or we are right about the racist connotations. Even without the racist connotations she's whining bc she lost, without any real justification. Thank you for the breakdown tho! It really demonstrates how difficult it is to make an accurate translation even with the context.
I disagree. If she tries to 'address' it publicly she'll just get dragged even more. People are very quick to put meaning and intention into other people's words and actions, without knowing that person or being present to understand the context first hand. Even you are doing it. Making comments like 'what gives away the racist part', as if you're exposing the truth or uncovering her real intentions. The ONLY person who she owes any explanation or apology to is Latrice. Latrice was the one who was offended and/or hurt and if they've made their peace, the public and the netiverse of self-appointed morality police out here with their guns always fully loaded, cocked drawn and ready to annihilate the career and entire life of anyone remotely famous or working hard to be, the moment they say or do anything they find remotely unacceptable or inappropriate. And they're always chomping at the bit to trample all over anyone at a whisper of a rumour or any accusations of impropriety or wrong doing?, regardless of whether those rumours or accusations are false or yet to be proven. This is a perfect example. Redlic (sp?) made the comment and then everyone else decided what she actually meant. Yes, she could have been saying that Latrice has an unfair advantage because she thinks Black women are naturally more physically fit, or have more curves. It's not the most demeaning or insulting Racial stereotype, but it's still a stereotype and that's not ok to the rest of the world, even if it's still seen as harmless on Korea. Actually, if we;re being honest, even in North America, there are stereotypes about Black women and men that people think are ok because they aren't blatantly derogatory, or are justified as 'compliments'. Stuff like, Black people are naturally better Athletes (dancers in this case), or they're more resilient to pain. For examples, it's been prooven that doctors in the US regularly under medicate Black women for pain because of this racial (untrue) bias and many Black women even lose their lives from illness and curing childbirth because they are sent back home with no medical care, or are not treated improperly. But back to Korea...in Korea, diversity and multicultural inclusion is a relatively new concept for reasons that aren't hard to comprehend, so it's not unusual for a Korean citizen to make culturally insensitive or racially offensive remarks without awareness of their impact or meaning. And trust, there is MEANING and HISTORY behind the stereotype about Black men and women being 'physically more fit', that are rooted in Slavery and over-sexualization of Black women in particular. Now, that being said, the only way to know if Redlic was upset because Latrice is a dancer who is physically fitter and stronger than her, or if she thought that Latrice was physically fitter and stronger BECAUSE she's Black, would be if she said, "...because she's Black.', but she didn't. Something to consider, is that if Redlic had made the same. complaint, but her opponent was one of the Korean or Japanese dancers who are obviously physically stronger than her (there are several, like ALL of the Wolfy ladies lol), or if she were up against her own team leader, who even other dancer say has an unfair advantage because she's taller, no one would be dragging her. They might shake their heads for being a poor sport, but that's it. However, just because Latrice is Black, the whole Netiverse is losing their minds, insisting it HAS to be because she's Black. Does anyone recognize the ignorance and racism in that assumption? Pretty damn hypocritical if we're being honest. People just love to hate.Not only that, but there were remarks that could be seen as offensive or inappropriate, made by other dancers that were ignored by the "I heard that, now you die" Police. For example, in an earlier episode, dancers were giggling and making comments about Kristen's backside, insinuating it was giving her an advantage in the battle, but nobody called them out for it because it wasn't framed as something significant by the editing. AND even if anyone truly believed Redlic was being racially insensitive, then the reaction shouldn't be to drag her, it should be to educate her on why it was unacceptable. The ONLY cure for ignorance is enlightenment. Don't 'vilify', 'EDIFY'. Lastly, like I said, any attempts to 'explain herself' to the angry netizens is going to be met with unkindness. Anyone demanding an explanation, has already tried and convicted her in their own minds, so it's pointless. They'll say she's lying if she denies racial motivation, or accuse her of insincerity if she admits to being racially motivated and offers an apology. Either way, she loses. If I weer in her shoes, I'd make sure Latrice and I were ok and I'd let the netizens squawk about it until they find someone or something new to direct their self-righteous indignation at. Let the lady live already. How many Korean celebrities and aspiring artists have to take their own lives before the evil netizens and toxic standoms out in the netiverse realize that when they send out comments and posts like the ones about this situation, they're potentially coming away from the keyboard with blood on their hands. STOP the HATE and if you can't offer edification or meaningful resolution, then stay the f**k out of peoples ACTUAL LIVES. It's entertainment to us, but for them, it's their livelihood, their career, their dreams, their existence. Goo Ha Ra, Jonghyun, Sulli, Moonbin Song Yoo Jung, Cha In Ha, Lee Hee Ryeon/U;Nee. These are just a few in a long list Korean celebs and aspiring artists who committed suicide and most, if not all of these deaths, were influenced by the same kind of unfair and necessary, pressure, judgment, rumours, accusations hate and general toxic behaviour directed at them, that is now being directed at people Redlic (sp?). Shame on everyone partaking in the toxicity.
@@louiselaliberte9816 Calling out someone for saying something is not OK is not the same as bullying, accusing and canceling unfairly. Even if Latrice wasn't black it would be not okay to say those things, specially when you're supposed to be a "professional dancer". If you wanna go for the "we don't know if it was racist or not bc it was not explicit" you do you, but don't shame people for trying to educate. What she said was disrespectful and unprofessional at best, even if not racist. I obviously agree with you on the bullying part, no one should be posting hateful comments towards her, but calling her out is not bad. Assuming things and being respectful about it is not inherently bad either, she could just explain (or not, if she doesn't want to) what she meant and it would be all over, or she could just do what she's done and say absolutely nothing and I (and all the respectful comments) would be disappointed but we wouldn't make a scene about it (like, I don't care if she's a bad person or if she doesn't want to say anything, I'll continue with my day as always). About haters, I only can be respectful in my comments and report the insults, but is not as I can stop it. You should really be keeping the last part of your post for people who really are insulting her.
I recall Redlic saying that her DMs were flooded with swears when a fan asked whether she got a message or not (and that was like 3 weeks after that EP) And some time later she said to her fans that you don’t always have to say compliments to her and can criticize her for what’s wrong. So I think leaving the comment section open was her way of accepting the criticism. (But I feel bad about what happened and the excessive hate that she’s getting) I’m a translator myself and I’m translating for several Korean television programs but if I spot any racist/inappropriate comment, I leave a slight note on them for the producers to take note. So since everything isn’t aired live (except for the finals) they should have cut stuff out. But as the episodes progressed there was also the problem with the translation. So…
I think people can be racist without knowing they are being racist or having the intention to be racist. I think she was going off of as you said the stereotype in Korea about black people being physically fit. The way I look at at Latrice I honestly dont think she is what I’d think she is very “physically strong”, she’s an average size black girl. It is because she is BLACK! Gabee has a similar body, nobody raised an issue, so for me I think her comments were racist not because she meant to attackblack people but coming from a racial stereotype she was led to believe, I dont hate her from it but I hope her and many others learn from this! Loved your insight!!!!
@@kCode-Reacts I doubt you’ve read my entire comment lmao, I have said that the comment was racist coming from a racial stereotype! I’ve made sure to emphasize whether they say its intended or not , racism is racism
@@tey5471 Why do you doubt they read your comment? You said you loved their insight even tho you disagree, and they responded the same way. Why is it possible for you to disagree but still appreciate his argument while he can't do the same?
‘Physicality’ is a reference to race. How can the Korean girl conclude that Latrice hasn’t worked hard. The Korean girl lost because Latrice was a better dancer.
Imagine if I a South Korean went to the united states for a Salpurichum dance competition. And me an African competed and I was upset that the Korean person did their traditional dance better than me. Would that not be absurd? How is this any different. Hip Hop is African American culture. Just like Salpurichum is Korean culture dance. Make it make sense to me.
It’s true. No one will ever out dance a black girl dancing hip hop if she’s naturally a good dancer…and god help the competition if she’s also a trained dancer. Hip hop is also a culture. We grew up in this. We had dance offs at the cookout. It’s the swag that needs to be respected. It’s about the facial expressions, the way the body is held, etc….it can’t be taught. The black woman lived it.
Correction on your part. *Black American Culture* I can guarantee you not a single Black American identifies themselves as African. Only African people identify themselves as African.
i too come from a culture where as long as you don't say "black is bad" then it's not racist, well micro aggression is a real thing and it's gonna take a good time before we learn better
That is what's been going on in the Olympics competitions with black athletes... We exceed our competitors and they minimize our athleticism/discipline and raise the bar. We compete again and we beat the bar that was raised while our competitors complain and say it's unfair that they are built to do this..... Yes it's called blatant racism just in Korean form.
Yeah nah sis lost and couldn’t handle it😂 Even with the language barrier and you breaking it down its clear to see and hear! Actions will always speak louder and energy never lies! She should have kept quiet.
Every one around the world COPYS BLACK CULTURE, even if they add bits and pieces, don't act like it's Not culture appropriation. Blacks are AMAZING at singing, dancing, acting, cooking, GOSPEL, SOUL, because we are natural at it all. We shouldn't have to keep fighting for what other people keep taking from us and having the nerve to call it "ORIGINAL". Blacks aren't weak, we're naturally stronger than most cultures by birth it's just genetics. I'm sorry someone people are weak mentally naturally. It's 2024 it's time to come together and accept Blacks. We love you all so yall need to love us just the same
If you look at the other dancers faces in the way, they’re looking at her while she’s saying that they could even tell it was racist to say something like that
My question is where did the Korean K-pop industry think hip-hop dancing started? On the streets of New York in urban black neighborhoods. It's in our blood and our soul! And it kinda sad we pass the dancing down to other ethnic groups and still we get racial discrimination and disrespect. Please give respect where the origin of hip-hop dancing started. Black women like Janet Jackson, Karyn White and many other black women back up dancers from the 80's and 90's! Jennifer Lopez learn how to dance the way she did from black women on in-living color show.
true but latrice is not black american she is African and from Australia so she had to learn our dance style which means she put in hard work too . the Korean girl hating lol
@@nanaagyekum44 Wrong, Black American's have anywhere from 50% to about 75% of a West African genetic signature within their DNA. But they are NOT 100% descendants of Africa.
@@kamivenus753 African American or just Africans, both are Black and Latrice is of Congolese descent so it is very natural for her to dance 😅 Latrice is closer to Her African roots by being Congolese .. African American culture is a culture of African Roots which shaped in the American continent given the circumstances of the U.S .. the only reason African american culture exists is because Black African people ( who originates from Africa ) were brought to the U.S ( and all over the AmericaS ). Dance is part of the culture all over the African Continent .. it does not matter if the dance was created by African descent in another continent ; she had to work to get that level of course, but not more than an African American Woman
@Pablo-ig7tx let me tell you something. Stop erasing black American culture and wytesplaining to blacks online their own identity. Being Congolese doesn't mean she has natural knowledge of black American culture. That's very ignorant for you to say that!!!! No one argued that she didn't have rhythm which you don't have !!! The argument was that she worked hard to learn a dance style that is not from her culture so the korean dancers shouldnt be saying that she is cheating. So I'm not sure what dafuq you are going on about. When hiphop was created in America it had shyte all to do with the Congolese or Africa and you know it. So go sit down somewhere and stop trying to erase black American culture h8ter!
Koreans took everything from black culture and added to what makes their culture pop culture now but don't forget who was the Blueprint for RAP, DANCING, HIP HOP etc BLACK CULTURE I'm not mad just don't act like yall didn't culture appropriate us. Braids, clothes, hair texture now, wigs, clothing etc
I agree wholeheartedly, but let's be specific here. This is specifically Black AMERICAN culture. Everyone, including Caribbeans and Africans copies our culture.
I find it funny how she’s saying that Latrice wasn’t even trying, but she won like Miss Girl didn’t she choreographed the dance so of course she doesn’t have to try because she choreographed it. She already knows how to do it, so it’s easy for her you just learn to dance. Of course you’re gonna put more effort into doing it right because you just learned it. 😂😂😂😂
I am happy and grateful that you broke this down and explained what these words mean. I feel that she should've been more aware of what she said. I 100% agreed with this.❤
She was well aware of what she said. She got got, and then got pissed and said something that she’s discussed with her friends before. It’s sad because she’s a good dancer but she did not win this time. Grow the heck up people!
Reflic didn't appear to be intimidated but obviously she was. So she came up with a reason as to why she lost to a better dancer. Physic, color and strength. :(
For the people who aren’t aware why people are saying it’s racist and don’t want to educate themselves…just think about the scene from the Jordan Peele movie “get out.” The black character was literally asked if he thought being black gave him certain advantages. You see this kind of thinking all the time in American sports like football and basketball. It’s a horrible stereotype to think that we have more “physicality” based on our race because it’s also caused people to think we don’t feel pain the same way they do. This is especially apparent in the health field. Doctors would perform experimental surgeries on black women with no anesthesia because they believed they were stronger and didn’t feel pain. While I doubt that dancer thinks this way, she definitely has racial biases that she needs to get educated about so hopefully she can learn from.
In that instance it is a stereotype and it's actually true. Especially in the nature of burst speeds. Blacks have a genetic signature corresponding to quick burst speeds that other ethnicities do not have. Every race has something genetically superior to another race. Welcome to the real world.
bc they thought it was "easy" and that they'd be able to steal it from her; reality hit when they couldn't even remotely match her natural groove, which is why we see majority of them tweak the moves, cause they can't move their waist & hips properly.
To be fair they were complaining about the way the choreo was taught to them, which looked noticeably less smooth of a process compared to other classes. But I think that’s a production problem with not having ready translators cuz what do you expect having an english speaker teach a bunch of Korean speakers to dance
If I was competing in a martial arts event and my match came down to split decision. I get mad when I loose and throw shade that my competitor of Asian descent has a natural advantage, can't you see he or she didn't even try hard ,.....etc.
little question/opn : why do i feel like these burst of contreversial opinions/emotions are frequent in korean society ?? i feel like she that thought for a long time and just couldn't help it anymore
Not making a “direct reference to race or ethnicity” doesn’t mean something isn’t racist. Also these dances and music is all based off of and taking from Black culture. Lest we forget!!!
It’s like he doesn’t even understand that dogwhistles exist. Once one understands that racism is mainly (now in our times) communicated thru dog whistles, u see it so fucking much. I used to be near and in alt right circles as a white person and once I got out of that bs and understood that the stuff I was saying a long the lines of “if black ppl want to become better then they have to change their culture.” In my mind when I was still on the right, that wasn’t racist, let alone it was the truth in my mind. But, in reality, it was racist and was communicating how I at the time wanted black ppl to act more like me (aka white). I just wish we discussed that dogwhistles are a thing and are prevalent. Now, Korea has its own problems with its racism and anti foreign sentiments which as an American I don’t think I can touch on correctly.
super late to this (i fell back down the SMF + SWF rabbit hole again and am seeking more content i didn't catch last time around) but i wanted to thank you for your commentary. the comments on this video are focused on viewers' own opinions and that's fine, but how you expressed your perspective here was so nuanced and considerate and i really can't praise you enough for how you broke this down and worked to uncover angles that not everyone would have considered. i agree with you, but much more important than that is that listening to you made me think and re-examine different perspectives and important contexts that fleshed the issue out to incredible detail thanks to your thoughtfulness. i'm really enjoying your commentary on these battles, thank you for taking the time to record and upload your thoughts and reactions.
Your explanation was spot on! As a Black American that lived in Seoul for two years, I believe she was absolutely relating to stereotypes that were, unfortunately, rampant in the ROK during my stay. I understand. It was exported by the American Armed Forces. Every country that has had an extended, significant U.S. military presence has been infected with the poison of American racism.
Complete cultural APPROPREATION. Period! I don't like K-Pop/J-Pop or Hip Hop like from Albania, where it's never acknowledged WHERE and from WHOM all of this cultural enrichment comes from. And then she had the audessity to pull that stunt because she can't lose? And you really try to find an exuse for this? Why? I don't care that she is your countrywoman. Just admit, that South Korea has a real problem with none Koreans. Coming from an interracial woman.
Then, she should have been asked exactly what she meant by physicality. Period. Either way, it was meant it was a disgusting cop out from a competitor being a sore loser suffering from a case of sour grapes. It was very unbecoming. Either way, she should be compelled to explain the meaning of her statement before being able to compete in the show again. There really is no place for that kind of conduct in true, honest, and worthy competition. It belittles whatever institution, sport, or situation it's involved in.
It's just Korean and their never ending visual competitions. Idk how you guys even bare to be Korean but most people don't care how u look, sizez let alone skin colour. Korean really need to stop sliding this issue up. It's normal for you guys even when you guys kept on getting hurt by your culture. But lot of others in the world don't do this. Respect.
I don't see any point in having a discussion on rascisn against black race as it concerns the Korean societal attitudes because they have an unapologetic deep seated contempt for the black race. They can't help themselves!!!!
i remember yoonji addressing her battle with kirsten so it made me like her more even tho its not supposed to be a big deal because she was within her boundaries when challenging kirsten again, but she prolly knew that there are casuals who watches the show and might misinterpret her words and actions. and i like her for that. and overall, yoonji and waackxxxy is a good sport compared to redlic.
Racist or not, what she said was wrong because it’s as if she was accusing Latrice of using her body to win and seduce the judges as well as the audience. For a woman, that is one of the worst things you can throw in her face. 😢
I have a small sliver of doubt that it wasn’t intended that way. Body type/size was also mentioned by another contestant pointing to Bada (who is noticeably taller than the other but just as Korean), where that person said that her frame made certain types of dancing look better. I watched the episode and someone did actually mention Bada’s height in conjunction to choreo looking better. However they were not accusatory doing so and did not make a dig at Bada’s work ethic or her deservedness. When I was very young I practiced ballet and they tended to feed you the idea that caucasian ballerinas looked better than me (East Asian, small since I was a kid) doing the dance partly because of their body proportions. I wasn’t even raised in Asia and taught there- they told me this in a Canadian class full of Canadian-Russian kids lol. It feels bad and I was a terrible dancer. I can’t imagine how bad it must’ve made Latrice feel. Even if it wasn’t intended to be racist, it was certainly an instance of a micro-aggression. I think it’s more than fair that international viewers to get mad, explain why it is wrong and ask for greater sensitivity. The comments on her IG are horrific though… There are quite a bit of accounts by foreigners who have attended Redlic’s classes and many say she’s actually super sweet and friendly to them irl. I’m not saying it excuses the statement, but maybe she isn’t a person you cannot reason with.
you're not the target of the remark so you cant decide if its racist or not. Even if it wasn't meant to be racist, redlic is a sore loser, and the dig wasn't necessary at all
The one comment up here is missing the point. I get what you are saying Chuuu I wanted to give red benefit of the doubt, but I feel it’s very high chance she is targeting Latrice and her dislike came off as racism. She wanted to critic Latrice have it easier bc of her physique, taller and longer limbs.but it came off as racism bc Latrice’s size is smth that runs in her ethnicity so it seems like she is targeting her race than her body size.
The thing is though black people are the most physically diverse group on the planet. The shortest and the tallest, with all the different features inbetween. There is no one "physical trait" to all black people except the average eye colour, skin colour and hair texture. I say average because there are extreme variations even with these "common traits," in those who are not mixed race.
Dancing doesn't have a race, it has a deliberate style. Latrice understood the style, she understood the reasons for the movements in the dance, Redlic did not, she memorized the dance, but I could tell she didn't understand the style. If Lisa from BP, decided to come on the show, she would understand the style and kill it, and that is all because of her hard work and dedication to the craft.
If Jam Republic got eliminated then I m not gonna watch SWF2 anymore 🥺 no offence to other crew but JR brings different kinda of excitement to this show which I didn't get from other crew and as for Trix I knw its sounds toxic but I kinda hate him ..k there I have said it 🫢 live Audience is biased
Uhm..... SHE MADE IT RACIST we would not be taking about it if she wouldn't of said what she said! for anyone to say it isn't lives in lala land. I have watch all of the street fighter seasons, nobody else has made any kind of dumb statement like that!
What I find interesting is that THIS STYLE OF DANCE originated in AMERICA's HIP HOP culture. The choreography, the move sets the energy... Which asian cultures took interest in and have adopted in Korea, Japan, Thailand and The Philippines.. and to a lesser but still significant degree in China.. I think that it is awesome. I do feel that it was racist... But not to the degree of hate that I have seen in other situations. Latrice's physicality comes from HARD WORK. Not NATURAL GIFTS due to her race and dna... as is implied. It sounds like a conversation needs to be had... Every race possesses racists... But, People of African descent are treated worst by all of them...
First of all, she assumed that Lattice didn't make a effort... Regarding to racist, the most of Korean don't use to interact so much ( people live in Korea) with foreigners because of lenguague...I think she got angry and said whatever thing without thinking.. On the other hand, can be understanding as racism because she speak about physic( it is could be.. she thought about curves...female attributes more striking eye catched ..because of her race) how know? Anyway, when i could asist to some korean rnb performences and i notice that their behaviour is different in the europe concerts than asian concerts. They arent shy and act more closely....it is difficil to understanding each others because the culture, someting
A lot of dances originate from black culture. But that does not mean we just know how to dance because we are black. Some black people cant dance that well or don’t have rhythm. But she can’t just base it off that. This isn’t unexpected because in plenty of Asian countries racism towards black people is normal and an extremely common thing. Regardless if they do African dances because it looks cool but the skin color “isn’t”. Or they see us as dirty or scared to touch us for some reason. But that’s not fair to her because she did train and that was her passion. It’s all about how u do it. There are plenty of great dancers of different races and cultures. Just because hip hop was created by us doesn’t mean we all just know and it’s just easy everyone has to learn to be able to do anything in life.
I truly appreciate how you broke this down. Her comment may not have been racist but they were disrespectful. Thank you for sharing an teaching how words can hurt.
Huh? It’s not her attention that matters it’s how it was perceived! It was perceived as racist! The two dances were similar in physical stature! The only true physical difference was SKIN COLOR! That’s not sit here and pretend that there were any significant other physical differences other than skin color! They were similar in height, and they were similar in size! No significant physical differences, other than race! So to sit here and pretend that it wasn’t about skin color is intellectually cowardly! She faced other dancers in the competition that had significant physical differences in her and she didn’t complain then! it was about race! When you admit the problem, you can solve the problem if you have the courage to face and change the problem! Korean people that those dances you’re doing those beats you’re doing African-American dances and beats! Hip-hop that is black culture! So if you got a problem with a physical appearance of the people that created the dances and the rhythms that you now love you need to check yourself because you’re bout to wreck yourself! Insulting to pretend that that wasn’t about race! Just fix the problem! Confront the problem! Don’t pretend that people are being overly sensitive or that we always pull in the race card WHEN YOU PULLED IT FIRST! The young lady needs to confront her issues and be a better person! And Korean people who have those issues need to work on those issues too! We can learn to do better and we can be better! But pretending that colorism and racism exist in your society, won’t stop the problem! I know that is not all Korean people nor do I pretend that sometimes because of the racial issue that we have faced in the past, that people are not on edge or overly sensitive abt race YES WE ARE AND WE SHOULD BR GIVEN OUR PAST! We gotta learn from each other. We gotta interact with each other so we can learn how to interact with each other and do better.
If you look at the reactions of others in the room, what she said was taken as as highly racist/inappropriate. Redlic is a sore loser and a bad representation of the spirit of competition.
I’ve experienced this crap, I was a great dancer, gymnast, cheerleader, singer and my “friend” at the time, it was always “you are only good at it cuz your black, and black ppl were bred to be stronger and faster, so that’s the only reason your better then me.” Yea I obviously dropped that friend but there is always shame as if “I can’t change being black, but I give my all into everything just the same as you” and so never felt comfortable outing that girl for what she said. At least when I was little, as an adult nah, I hold her responsible for her words and actions (fb reconnects everyone, right?) Ppl need to be held responsible for their words & actions
You know u can go to the choom and saw a video that latrice choreography chosen and then see the comment. There is a lot of korean comments at the top comment saying that “latrice choreography is bad rather than redlic, redlic choreography is good and i like it” and if u reply that comment u can see a lot of korean reply they agree with it and even they call out latrice “she said she doesn’t know the lyrics that’s why she just use the rhythm, u can dance without lyrics lmao, don’t just try to find reasons when the real reason is u can’t dance” if that’s not a racism then idk what is
Latrice got my attention even more after Redrick's comment. Maybe Latrice is just more interesting in the way she dances. I have black genes and I don't dance very much. Latrice is just better imo. Redrick comes across as jealous.
K, this is a bit lengthy so work w/me here. 1st- Everyone learn the difference between "Racism" and "Bigotry". It helps to know what you're actually talking about when passing judgment. As hard as it has been for ALL women to be seen, integrated and respected in Hip Hop, street dance and entertainment in general, ALL women artists and performers globally should be and should have been offended by these bigoted coments-FACTS!! **Plus, am I the only one who thinks its funny that she has a problem with how a women of color looks and dances within her own cultural wheelhouse, in a dace competition she volunteered to participate in?.... No? Nobody? Just me....lmao!! If the shoe were on the other foot and Latrice said it wasn't fair the other girl won when she's not even a women of color dancing Hip-Hop/Street Dance, the world would have demolished her so darn fast. Why is it always okay to disregard and disrespect people of color but we are never in the right no matter the response and most times, we are not even allowed to have a response? This competition is highlighting some of the very best female street dancers, internationally. It's a shame this young woman made the choice to be, act and speak with personal ignorance instead of embracing and enjoying the platform and level of excellence they are competing at. Everyone should just disregard her at this point. And Latrice and everyone else needs to stop acting like they are shocked and awed by this type of display on these type of shows. This attitude and speech is allowed, that is why it continues. None of the dancers, judges, nor production team checked her, or stopped her in her tracks. It made good TV to see the brown dancer humiliated globally by the other. And they are both women, both dancers, both will face similar challenges in the industry simply because they are women. And everyone there, every dancer, female judge, female producer, director, chief, professional who has ever had to fight extra hard and continues to have to prove herself let it happen. That's a shame. Ridiculousness!!
She is coming up with excuses, cause anyone can make extreme facial expressions while dancing to make you feel where they are coming from. The stereotypes are bullshit
Yea because not all black people can dance or play sports heck whatever the stereotype for any race is not all true it is what we learn 😊 we all bleed the same color ❤
Your take comes from something books cant teach. It comes from genuinely caring how your words are received. Its better to be understood than to be right
What does effort is effort is to you . If you think dancing with all your might, but there is no expression in your dance ir what we call sauce no it is not about being fair , you just don't know how to dance. Dancing is with your all about using every part of your body and matching it to the rythm. And sometimes you don't have to go all hard it is about skills
Theoretically speaking, something can be both a stereotype and be true. _"Blacks are innately fast sprinters; producing some of the worlds fastest men and women."_ This statement is equally stereotypical and true. It's stereotypically true.
Wether they like it or not, Letrice is a machine. Her hits are very strong due to regular practice so they should not credit it to her looks. It's her hardwork.
It was racist and this guy knows it. He made sure to cover his mouth the whole time, just-in-case he had to over dub his audio do to backlash. I know how Koreans get down.
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it was racist. saying the only reason she was won was based on her physical appearance/way she's built and NOT on her talent.....You don't have to reference someone's race or ethnicity for it to be racist.
Finallyyy someone said it
they also put a racist comment on Audrey because of her tiny frame, that she is a weak and an amateur good for nothing dancer that will not win in the battle.
No she wasn’t
@@weywey9616that’s not racist tho..
Exactly that's exactly why i disliked this lame video
It was racist- a clear form of ‘micro-aggression’. It is striking to me that people dance hip-hop and rap songs, dresses alike and acts like black folks with all the attitude and then they can be so racist?
If those dancers want to be international they better prepare to different people with different physiques. Work on yourself! Don’t belittle others for your ‘failure’.
No, it wasn't racist.
@@anthonypuccetti8779Yes it was
yall dont even know what racism is now 🤣🤣@@67y3j3fv2wg
@@67y3j3fv2wg No. People are delusional from jewish sociology.
Her coments were bigotry based. As she is not an actual judge, nor is she in charge of the judgment criteria, her coments can only be racist if she has / can have a direct affect on Latrice's outcome, in one way or another. Does she?
It was racist, period.
If Koreans are going to copy music genre's, beats, and rhythms from the black community, they need to educate themselves about culture, history, racism and much more about these communities. NO EXCUSES, WE ARE IN 2024. You can not copy the best parts of a community, then act like you live under a rock when it comes to you knowing the issues the community faces. It's also important to acknowledge the originality of the work so that you give credit where it'ss due.
People tend to infer the following when talking about race.
RACE = physical traits commonly shared among her and people who look like her globally
RACE = Her belonging to a unique culture unique shared predominantly by people who look like her globally. While not everything is the same, there are things that are similar.
RACE = Unique history that affects her and people who look like her
RACE = Unique mannerisms
RACE = Unique foods shared by the community
and much more.
As a black person she is more curvy than the Asian lady, and since this type of music originated from people who look like her back in African where it highlights some of these body parts then she will tend to look more natural dancing than the Asian lady no offense, especially if she is good. But besides her body the most important thing is culture, heritage and history. Growing up black, or African, this type of music genre is naturally exposed to you and the beats, the rhythm carries a deeper meaning when the people dance it. Its more than just a dance effort or performance. Its an expression of our ancestors and a connection we deeply share with them passed down from many generations. So, besides her being great at the dance, it could be her dance expressions looked more natural because she connected to the music, beats and ryrhm on a much deeper level than the Asian lady. To not consider these things and to reduce her winning to the physical abilities is to spit on the face of all Africans and their decentants whose music genre, beats and rhythm you are dancing to. Its ignorant, shallow, and a lack of understanding of humity and what makes us unique.
Dear Korea, and the wider Asian community, lets do better and deal with the antiblackness in the community. Humanity is very diverse and beautiful, if we only focus on race we miss out of its beauty.
Beautifully said!
To be honest....hip hop dance has largely been taken over by the Asian ethnicities. So much so that many will swear up and down that it's no longer Black American culture at all. I've heard Korean men say that Kpop is only inspired by Hip Hop but they took it and made it better.
For the record… hip hop/rap music and dance was created by Black ppl in America…. Not in Africa
@@len452000 Specifically the descendants of Freedmen. Not immigrants. We are not immigrants.
Speak to the East Asian communities.
Miss maam keeps playing victim when she clearly ddnt do better. Her fellow cast mates looked so confused
It was very uncomfortable indeed
You didn't even watch the whole show and now judging Redlic by a clip. Instead of finding out the truth, believing some random youtuber who produces clickbait videos is what you did. As a person who finished the whole show, I only see that Redlic was confident about herself and was serious about grasping the opportunities. During the choreography choosing session, Latrice did admit that she didn’t even make an attempt to translate the lyrics of ‘click like’ to understand the content. In addition, Latrice didn’t choreograph the whole chorus part and she performed worse in leading the sub-leader class, including uncertainty about the details of her own choreography and uneven distribution of the center part. On the other hand, Redlic tried her best to fit the lyrics into her choreography and wanted to reach perfection. Considering the unseriousness Latrice showed and she didn’t put all her effort into the choreography, no wonder why Redlic felt unsatisfied with Latrice being the “commander” of the sub-leader class. Latrice’s attitude, ability and performance weren't persuasive enough to be the “commander”. This is the authentic reason for Redlic being unsatisfactory with the competition result, but not racism. Redlic and Latrice were friendly towards each other for the whole show, especially for the K-pop dance mission “Mannequeen” vs. “Jam Republic” part. How would Redlic be racist? Instead of blindly believing others’ wordings, learn to find out the truth by yourself.
Do not try to defend her. she said what she said. Wether she meant it or not. did u even see the look she gave the black girl at the end.
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All must keep opinion of yoursef don t thinks so she black be gpod dance. Have good improvar yes but orginal our siste asian grown up part is orginal k pop world for ever. White pure magic girl is the top best of best
I think they also underestimated how difficult Afro-Dance is too, I was surprised they had picked Latrice choreography as it was her specialty, Kirsten is probably they only person their that could match her at that style of dance.
My biggest complaint is the fact that Mnet aired what Redlic said & then they didn’t elaborate on it in the following episode. With that being said they still follow each other on IG so they’re probably still on good terms. People forget these episodes were filmed over a month ago (teasers for the first few episodes released back in July) & a lot has happened between then & now.
Also I just want to see the girls dance, this is the most dramatic dance show in existence & people are too invested in the conflicts. They’re trying to go global but aren’t doing a good job at convincing future international groups to join if conflict is all they see.
Really enjoyed watching some Afro-dance videos. Can you imagine if it got aired? GG
I know this is a month old but I need to correct you on something. For black people to succeed in most careers outside of niche cities and African countries, you literally have to play nice and be the "bigger" person all the time. Keeping professional connections and sometimes being an apologist for those who wrong us. So them following each other on IG means absolutely nothing. Tracing her from Australia, to China, now Korea, she literally has to suck it up. If she didn't she would get persecuted. Look what happen to Sam Okyere when he called out racist in Korea. They cancelled him. So I caution using those kid of "proofs" as proof of anything. We don't know. Won't ever know unless we become friends with them. It's part of the black experience.
Forget? Doesnt mean they follow each other they on good term what such bullshit. Latrice is just professional, Latrice ate her up everytime. Unfollowing each other would only cause more fuss and avoided it and koreans are one of the top 3 racist asians
It doesn't seem like anyone else had issues learning Latrices dance. Plus, ling, Emma, and Audrey had no issues either so that is kind of a silly thing to think. Everyone on that show are beyond talented, so all it takes is practice and patience to learn.
@@Annonymous5411 Sorry for the late reply. I agree with everything you said but tbh that applies to anyone trying to put their front foot in in a different environment. For example Zsun from Coco & Butter faced the same discrimination while teaching Dance Hall in the Caribbean & people there were frowning upon her. Not realising she was a student of some of the most legendary dancehall dancers such as Nickblackeagle & Boysierosesthelegend. This seems to be an issue beyond the black community. Also Latrice was massive in China & was shown a lot of love, the majority of her classes were sold out during her appearance at SDC. I respect Sam Okyere and agree with your statement, I’ve visited Korea multiple times & have faced discrimination during my visits there but I think people tend to forget that Korea is a conservative country. I mean last time I visited they had just voted in a Prime Minister that was openly against the LBGT community, & most of those votes were from Koreans under their 30s.
This is part of a larger racial and antiforeign hate issue in Korea and there is no excuse.
I respect him trying to stick up and make excuses for his own, but anyone can see the true intention there. If she can't compete then she needs to work harder. Nuff said
Indeed, I agreed of all what you said.
In my opinion, Redlic can't accept herself that she will lose to Latrice. The title of the show is "STREET WOMAN FIGHTER", it's all about skills and talent competition not about she felt and she is so immature to said all that.
Black people get to decide what’s considered racist or not, It was a racial stereotype and also micro aggressive. I’ve seen this in a few Korean variety shows as well. She wouldn’t have treated Kirsten or the other Korean dancers that way. Crazy how a a lot of the dance they do, originates from black culture, yet this is the attitudes they have. If you respect the dance, genre etc or participate in it, you should respect the people that created it as well. If the things were turned around and Latrice made a comment, then she would have received a lot of backlash. Let’s call a spade a spade.
calm tf down. If you actually watched the full video, you'd see that he agrees that it was racist. And BTW, just because someone isn't black, it doesn't mean they can't speak up for us. How do we get rid of racism if only one side is speaking out against injustice? 🙄
Please.. This has been going on for decades now. Korean like to justify their racist behaviour.
Just look at Sam okyere who spoke the truth.. Never again seen on tv yeah. The public basically turned on him heck they even use to call him black hyung.
Korean are freaking colorist and I hate that. They can literally made fun of every culture and get away with apologist like you behind them and worst their obnoxious behaviour and ego of not admitting their fault. Like oh kroean also faces racism in other foreign countries so how the heck will that explain your racist behaviour. It's just the plain bitter truth of how general Koreans are when asked about racism. Not saying that all Korean is like that but in general.. I believe majority of them still have this mindset unless they went overseas and live among others or that they have and associated themselves with POC@@onyeenoma
"Black people get to decide what’s considered racist or not"
No, not for other people. Black narcissism.
"It was a racial stereotype and also micro aggressive"
No.
@@anthonypuccetti8779 yes it was because you have to understand Korea has a history of downgrading people based on their skin, color and uplifting and elevating white people not all Koreans do it but it’s a part of the culture
@@anthonypuccetti8779Wow. You just coined your own little term, "black narcissism" to describe a historically prejudiced race, the black race, when it is pointing out these prejudices. Until you have experienced life while black you really have no right to accuse black people of being narcissistic just because they are sick and tired of being treated poorly just because they are black. I'm assuming by your name that you are Italian. You know absolutely bugger all about living in a black skin so just keep your miniscule, micro, nano aggression towards the black race to yourself. Thanks.
I think that what gives away the racist part is that even with all the backlash Redlic is receiving she hasn't even tried to explain what she meant, so either she doesn't care (which, I mean, daaamn girl, you do you but that's very low) or we are right about the racist connotations.
Even without the racist connotations she's whining bc she lost, without any real justification.
Thank you for the breakdown tho! It really demonstrates how difficult it is to make an accurate translation even with the context.
Great Points! I do think that her addressing it will be wise but it would draw more attention so might be staying low to avoid more backlash
I disagree. If she tries to 'address' it publicly she'll just get dragged even more. People are very quick to put meaning and intention into other people's words and actions, without knowing that person or being present to understand the context first hand. Even you are doing it. Making comments like 'what gives away the racist part', as if you're exposing the truth or uncovering her real intentions. The ONLY person who she owes any explanation or apology to is Latrice. Latrice was the one who was offended and/or hurt and if they've made their peace, the public and the netiverse of self-appointed morality police out here with their guns always fully loaded, cocked drawn and ready to annihilate the career and entire life of anyone remotely famous or working hard to be, the moment they say or do anything they find remotely unacceptable or inappropriate. And they're always chomping at the bit to trample all over anyone at a whisper of a rumour or any accusations of impropriety or wrong doing?, regardless of whether those rumours or accusations are false or yet to be proven. This is a perfect example. Redlic (sp?) made the comment and then everyone else decided what she actually meant. Yes, she could have been saying that Latrice has an unfair advantage because she thinks Black women are naturally more physically fit, or have more curves. It's not the most demeaning or insulting Racial stereotype, but it's still a stereotype and that's not ok to the rest of the world, even if it's still seen as harmless on Korea. Actually, if we;re being honest, even in North America, there are stereotypes about Black women and men that people think are ok because they aren't blatantly derogatory, or are justified as 'compliments'. Stuff like, Black people are naturally better Athletes (dancers in this case), or they're more resilient to pain. For examples, it's been prooven that doctors in the US regularly under medicate Black women for pain because of this racial (untrue) bias and many Black women even lose their lives from illness and curing childbirth because they are sent back home with no medical care, or are not treated improperly. But back to Korea...in Korea, diversity and multicultural inclusion is a relatively new concept for reasons that aren't hard to comprehend, so it's not unusual for a Korean citizen to make culturally insensitive or racially offensive remarks without awareness of their impact or meaning. And trust, there is MEANING and HISTORY behind the stereotype about Black men and women being 'physically more fit', that are rooted in Slavery and over-sexualization of Black women in particular. Now, that being said, the only way to know if Redlic was upset because Latrice is a dancer who is physically fitter and stronger than her, or if she thought that Latrice was physically fitter and stronger BECAUSE she's Black, would be if she said, "...because she's Black.', but she didn't. Something to consider, is that if Redlic had made the same. complaint, but her opponent was one of the Korean or Japanese dancers who are obviously physically stronger than her (there are several, like ALL of the Wolfy ladies lol), or if she were up against her own team leader, who even other dancer say has an unfair advantage because she's taller, no one would be dragging her. They might shake their heads for being a poor sport, but that's it. However, just because Latrice is Black, the whole Netiverse is losing their minds, insisting it HAS to be because she's Black. Does anyone recognize the ignorance and racism in that assumption? Pretty damn hypocritical if we're being honest. People just love to hate.Not only that, but there were remarks that could be seen as offensive or inappropriate, made by other dancers that were ignored by the "I heard that, now you die" Police. For example, in an earlier episode, dancers were giggling and making comments about Kristen's backside, insinuating it was giving her an advantage in the battle, but nobody called them out for it because it wasn't framed as something significant by the editing. AND even if anyone truly believed Redlic was being racially insensitive, then the reaction shouldn't be to drag her, it should be to educate her on why it was unacceptable. The ONLY cure for ignorance is enlightenment. Don't 'vilify', 'EDIFY'. Lastly, like I said, any attempts to 'explain herself' to the angry netizens is going to be met with unkindness. Anyone demanding an explanation, has already tried and convicted her in their own minds, so it's pointless. They'll say she's lying if she denies racial motivation, or accuse her of insincerity if she admits to being racially motivated and offers an apology. Either way, she loses. If I weer in her shoes, I'd make sure Latrice and I were ok and I'd let the netizens squawk about it until they find someone or something new to direct their self-righteous indignation at. Let the lady live already. How many Korean celebrities and aspiring artists have to take their own lives before the evil netizens and toxic standoms out in the netiverse realize that when they send out comments and posts like the ones about this situation, they're potentially coming away from the keyboard with blood on their hands. STOP the HATE and if you can't offer edification or meaningful resolution, then stay the f**k out of peoples ACTUAL LIVES. It's entertainment to us, but for them, it's their livelihood, their career, their dreams, their existence. Goo Ha Ra, Jonghyun, Sulli, Moonbin Song Yoo Jung, Cha In Ha, Lee Hee Ryeon/U;Nee. These are just a few in a long list Korean celebs and aspiring artists who committed suicide and most, if not all of these deaths, were influenced by the same kind of unfair and necessary, pressure, judgment, rumours, accusations hate and general toxic behaviour directed at them, that is now being directed at people Redlic (sp?). Shame on everyone partaking in the toxicity.
@@louiselaliberte9816 Calling out someone for saying something is not OK is not the same as bullying, accusing and canceling unfairly. Even if Latrice wasn't black it would be not okay to say those things, specially when you're supposed to be a "professional dancer". If you wanna go for the "we don't know if it was racist or not bc it was not explicit" you do you, but don't shame people for trying to educate. What she said was disrespectful and unprofessional at best, even if not racist. I obviously agree with you on the bullying part, no one should be posting hateful comments towards her, but calling her out is not bad.
Assuming things and being respectful about it is not inherently bad either, she could just explain (or not, if she doesn't want to) what she meant and it would be all over, or she could just do what she's done and say absolutely nothing and I (and all the respectful comments) would be disappointed but we wouldn't make a scene about it (like, I don't care if she's a bad person or if she doesn't want to say anything, I'll continue with my day as always).
About haters, I only can be respectful in my comments and report the insults, but is not as I can stop it. You should really be keeping the last part of your post for people who really are insulting her.
I recall Redlic saying that her DMs were flooded with swears when a fan asked whether she got a message or not (and that was like 3 weeks after that EP)
And some time later she said to her fans that you don’t always have to say compliments to her and can criticize her for what’s wrong. So I think leaving the comment section open was her way of accepting the criticism. (But I feel bad about what happened and the excessive hate that she’s getting)
I’m a translator myself and I’m translating for several Korean television programs but if I spot any racist/inappropriate comment, I leave a slight note on them for the producers to take note. So since everything isn’t aired live (except for the finals) they should have cut stuff out. But as the episodes progressed there was also the problem with the translation. So…
I think people can be racist without knowing they are being racist or having the intention to be racist.
I think she was going off of as you said the stereotype in Korea about black people being physically fit. The way I look at at Latrice I honestly dont think she is what I’d think she is very “physically strong”, she’s an average size black girl. It is because she is BLACK! Gabee has a similar body, nobody raised an issue, so for me I think her comments were racist not because she meant to attackblack people but coming from a racial stereotype she was led to believe, I dont hate her from it but I hope her and many others learn from this!
Loved your insight!!!!
Great points!! Appreciate you!!
@@kCode-Reacts I doubt you’ve read my entire comment lmao, I have said that the comment was racist coming from a racial stereotype! I’ve made sure to emphasize whether they say its intended or not , racism is racism
THIS! again we dont have to say the slurs and CA to be racist.
Yup blk people say this and people don't listen
@@tey5471 Why do you doubt they read your comment? You said you loved their insight even tho you disagree, and they responded the same way. Why is it possible for you to disagree but still appreciate his argument while he can't do the same?
‘Physicality’ is a reference to race. How can the Korean girl conclude that Latrice hasn’t worked hard. The Korean girl lost because Latrice was a better dancer.
Edited or not, the words came out of her mouth. No excuses .
THIS THIS
It remind me of what that one gymnast was saying about Simon Biles.
I had to look that up. What is wrong with these people?! That literally makes no sense. Just jealous and ld mean spirited.
Imagine if I a South Korean went to the united states for a Salpurichum dance competition. And me an African competed and I was upset that the Korean person did their traditional dance better than me. Would that not be absurd? How is this any different. Hip Hop is African American culture. Just like Salpurichum is Korean culture dance. Make it make sense to me.
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It’s true. No one will ever out dance a black girl dancing hip hop if she’s naturally a good dancer…and god help the competition if she’s also a trained dancer. Hip hop is also a culture. We grew up in this. We had dance offs at the cookout. It’s the swag that needs to be respected. It’s about the facial expressions, the way the body is held, etc….it can’t be taught. The black woman lived it.
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Correction on your part. *Black American Culture* I can guarantee you not a single Black American identifies themselves as African. Only African people identify themselves as African.
@@OneYulaw that's a sweeping generalization fallacy. Listen to a speech by Malcolm X then come back to me.
i too come from a culture where as long as you don't say "black is bad" then it's not racist, well micro aggression is a real thing and it's gonna take a good time before we learn better
That is what's been going on in the Olympics competitions with black athletes... We exceed our competitors and they minimize our athleticism/discipline and raise the bar. We compete again and we beat the bar that was raised while our competitors complain and say it's unfair that they are built to do this..... Yes it's called blatant racism just in Korean form.
Yeah nah sis lost and couldn’t handle it😂 Even with the language barrier and you breaking it down its clear to see and hear! Actions will always speak louder and energy never lies! She should have kept quiet.
Every one around the world COPYS BLACK CULTURE, even if they add bits and pieces, don't act like it's Not culture appropriation. Blacks are AMAZING at singing, dancing, acting, cooking, GOSPEL, SOUL, because we are natural at it all. We shouldn't have to keep fighting for what other people keep taking from us and having the nerve to call it "ORIGINAL". Blacks aren't weak, we're naturally stronger than most cultures by birth it's just genetics. I'm sorry someone people are weak mentally naturally. It's 2024 it's time to come together and accept Blacks. We love you all so yall need to love us just the same
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Yes our melanin is the reason we are naturally stronger mentally and physically.
If you look at the other dancers faces in the way, they’re looking at her while she’s saying that they could even tell it was racist to say something like that
My question is where did the Korean K-pop industry think hip-hop dancing started? On the streets of New York in urban black neighborhoods. It's in our blood and our soul! And it kinda sad we pass the dancing down to other ethnic groups and still we get racial discrimination and disrespect. Please give respect where the origin of hip-hop dancing started. Black women like Janet Jackson, Karyn White and many other black women back up dancers from the 80's and 90's! Jennifer Lopez learn how to dance the way she did from black women on in-living color show.
true but latrice is not black american she is African and from Australia so she had to learn our dance style which means she put in hard work too . the Korean girl hating lol
Black Americans are from Africa decent.
@@nanaagyekum44 Wrong, Black American's have anywhere from 50% to about 75% of a West African genetic signature within their DNA. But they are NOT 100% descendants of Africa.
@@kamivenus753 African American or just Africans, both are Black and Latrice is of Congolese descent so it is very natural for her to dance 😅
Latrice is closer to Her African roots by being Congolese ..
African American culture is a culture of African Roots which shaped in the American continent given the circumstances of the U.S .. the only reason African american culture exists is because Black African people ( who originates from Africa ) were brought to the U.S ( and all over the AmericaS ).
Dance is part of the culture all over the African Continent .. it does not matter if the dance was created by African descent in another continent ; she had to work to get that level of course, but not more than an African American Woman
@Pablo-ig7tx let me tell you something. Stop erasing black American culture and wytesplaining to blacks online their own identity. Being Congolese doesn't mean she has natural knowledge of black American culture. That's very ignorant for you to say that!!!! No one argued that she didn't have rhythm which you don't have !!! The argument was that she worked hard to learn a dance style that is not from her culture so the korean dancers shouldnt be saying that she is cheating. So I'm not sure what dafuq you are going on about. When hiphop was created in America it had shyte all to do with the Congolese or Africa and you know it. So go sit down somewhere and stop trying to erase black American culture h8ter!
Koreans took everything from black culture and added to what makes their culture pop culture now but don't forget who was the Blueprint for RAP, DANCING, HIP HOP etc BLACK CULTURE I'm not mad just don't act like yall didn't culture appropriate us. Braids, clothes, hair texture now, wigs, clothing etc
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I agree wholeheartedly, but let's be specific here. This is specifically Black AMERICAN culture. Everyone, including Caribbeans and Africans copies our culture.
@@Shng275 your culture has roots from our culture… at the end of the day, culture aside we’re all the same.
@@justdoitnike2782 Our culture also has roots in European and the Native American cultures. Are we the same as them, too!?🙄
@@justdoitnike2782Caribbean music culture has its roots in Black American music not the other way around when it comes to hip hop dance.
She has a natural rhythm to her dance which is something you can't learn but it def was very racist to assume we all have that 🫡🫡🫡
I find it funny how she’s saying that Latrice wasn’t even trying, but she won like Miss Girl didn’t she choreographed the dance so of course she doesn’t have to try because she choreographed it. She already knows how to do it, so it’s easy for her you just learn to dance. Of course you’re gonna put more effort into doing it right because you just learned it. 😂😂😂😂
I am happy and grateful that you broke this down and explained what these words mean. I feel that she should've been more aware of what she said. I 100% agreed with this.❤
That is awesome to hear!! I appreciate you!
She was well aware of what she said. She got got, and then got pissed and said something that she’s discussed with her friends before. It’s sad because she’s a good dancer but she did not win this time. Grow the heck up people!
You're right ma'am group ass holes😂
Reflic didn't appear to be intimidated but obviously she was. So she came up with a reason as to why she lost to a better dancer. Physic, color and strength. :(
For the people who aren’t aware why people are saying it’s racist and don’t want to educate themselves…just think about the scene from the Jordan Peele movie “get out.” The black character was literally asked if he thought being black gave him certain advantages. You see this kind of thinking all the time in American sports like football and basketball. It’s a horrible stereotype to think that we have more “physicality” based on our race because it’s also caused people to think we don’t feel pain the same way they do. This is especially apparent in the health field. Doctors would perform experimental surgeries on black women with no anesthesia because they believed they were stronger and didn’t feel pain. While I doubt that dancer thinks this way, she definitely has racial biases that she needs to get educated about so hopefully she can learn from.
In that instance it is a stereotype and it's actually true. Especially in the nature of burst speeds. Blacks have a genetic signature corresponding to quick burst speeds that other ethnicities do not have. Every race has something genetically superior to another race. Welcome to the real world.
What I don’t get is they chose Latrice’s dance but most of them are complaining about it?
Right! It was their choice to be effed 😂😂
bc they thought it was "easy" and that they'd be able to steal it from her; reality hit when they couldn't even remotely match her natural groove, which is why we see majority of them tweak the moves, cause they can't move their waist & hips properly.
To be fair they were complaining about the way the choreo was taught to them, which looked noticeably less smooth of a process compared to other classes. But I think that’s a production problem with not having ready translators cuz what do you expect having an english speaker teach a bunch of Korean speakers to dance
Good breakdown , them editing it out is VERY telling.
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2:17 😅 REDLIC is a crying baby. Omg! it easy to say LATRICE can memorize the steps so easily compared to REDLIC.
I hope koreans see this video to understand better
한국인들도 알고 있더라구요
Your hopes are far too high for Koreans. They will never understand because you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
If I was competing in a martial arts event and my match came down to split decision. I get mad when I loose and throw shade that my competitor of Asian descent has a natural advantage, can't you see he or she didn't even try hard ,.....etc.
The group who makes the racist remark cannot decide if it is racist. Only the one who was targeted can decide!
Touch some grass 😂
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@@kookoonuthead5644kick some rocks
@@kookoonuthead5644 no they're right
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No dude, she said something racist. However, I'm here for free speech. Luckily, she wasn't in the US. It would have ended with two black eyes
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why do i feel like these burst of contreversial opinions/emotions are frequent in korean society ??
i feel like she that thought for a long time and just couldn't help it anymore
Not making a “direct reference to race or ethnicity” doesn’t mean something isn’t racist. Also these dances and music is all based off of and taking from Black culture. Lest we forget!!!
It’s like he doesn’t even understand that dogwhistles exist. Once one understands that racism is mainly (now in our times) communicated thru dog whistles, u see it so fucking much. I used to be near and in alt right circles as a white person and once I got out of that bs and understood that the stuff I was saying a long the lines of “if black ppl want to become better then they have to change their culture.” In my mind when I was still on the right, that wasn’t racist, let alone it was the truth in my mind. But, in reality, it was racist and was communicating how I at the time wanted black ppl to act more like me (aka white). I just wish we discussed that dogwhistles are a thing and are prevalent. Now, Korea has its own problems with its racism and anti foreign sentiments which as an American I don’t think I can touch on correctly.
I was laughing at Harimus reaction😂 she was so shocked she dont know how to react😂
You can’t try and copy another cultures way of dancing then get mad when you’re out danced by someone from that culture.
Hip Hop dance and culture is/was created by Black American Culture period. Everyone else are mere imitators.
super late to this (i fell back down the SMF + SWF rabbit hole again and am seeking more content i didn't catch last time around) but i wanted to thank you for your commentary. the comments on this video are focused on viewers' own opinions and that's fine, but how you expressed your perspective here was so nuanced and considerate and i really can't praise you enough for how you broke this down and worked to uncover angles that not everyone would have considered. i agree with you, but much more important than that is that listening to you made me think and re-examine different perspectives and important contexts that fleshed the issue out to incredible detail thanks to your thoughtfulness. i'm really enjoying your commentary on these battles, thank you for taking the time to record and upload your thoughts and reactions.
This was so tastefully done and the reason why I have no tolerance for stupidity and ignorance. Thank you so much for your perspective as a native.💯
Latrice is the better dancer
It was absolutely racist.
If you disagree, perhaps you should check yourself.
I like how you break it down and point out the facts. Also bringing awareness to using your words appropriately.
Thank you!! Your comments mean a lot!!
ngl this is good source as a korean learner lmao the way you break down each word because they talk fast and say the meaning lol thank youuu
Your explanation was spot on! As a Black American that lived in Seoul for two years, I believe she was absolutely relating to stereotypes that were, unfortunately, rampant in the ROK during my stay. I understand. It was exported by the American Armed Forces. Every country that has had an extended, significant U.S. military presence has been infected with the poison of American racism.
Complete cultural APPROPREATION. Period! I don't like K-Pop/J-Pop or Hip Hop like from Albania, where it's never acknowledged WHERE and from WHOM all of this cultural enrichment comes from. And then she had the audessity to pull that stunt because she can't lose? And you really try to find an exuse for this? Why? I don't care that she is your countrywoman. Just admit, that South Korea has a real problem with none Koreans. Coming from an interracial woman.
Then, she should have been asked exactly what she meant by physicality. Period. Either way, it was meant it was a disgusting cop out from a competitor being a sore loser suffering from a case of sour grapes. It was very unbecoming. Either way, she should be compelled to explain the meaning of her statement before being able to compete in the show again. There really is no place for that kind of conduct in true, honest, and worthy competition. It belittles whatever institution, sport, or situation it's involved in.
It's just Korean and their never ending visual competitions. Idk how you guys even bare to be Korean but most people don't care how u look, sizez let alone skin colour. Korean really need to stop sliding this issue up. It's normal for you guys even when you guys kept on getting hurt by your culture. But lot of others in the world don't do this. Respect.
I don't see any point in having a discussion on rascisn against black race as it concerns the Korean societal attitudes because they have an unapologetic deep seated contempt for the black race. They can't help themselves!!!!
i remember yoonji addressing her battle with kirsten so it made me like her more even tho its not supposed to be a big deal because she was within her boundaries when challenging kirsten again, but she prolly knew that there are casuals who watches the show and might misinterpret her words and actions. and i like her for that. and overall, yoonji and waackxxxy is a good sport compared to redlic.
Racist or not, what she said was wrong because it’s as if she was accusing Latrice of using her body to win and seduce the judges as well as the audience. For a woman, that is one of the worst things you can throw in her face. 😢
I’m so glad you broke it down! I hope more people will watch this video!
I'm glad, Thank you Holly!
Yaah we did watch it so tell me what did the broke down uuh some nonsense thatsall
I have a small sliver of doubt that it wasn’t intended that way. Body type/size was also mentioned by another contestant pointing to Bada (who is noticeably taller than the other but just as Korean), where that person said that her frame made certain types of dancing look better. I watched the episode and someone did actually mention Bada’s height in conjunction to choreo looking better. However they were not accusatory doing so and did not make a dig at Bada’s work ethic or her deservedness.
When I was very young I practiced ballet and they tended to feed you the idea that caucasian ballerinas looked better than me (East Asian, small since I was a kid) doing the dance partly because of their body proportions. I wasn’t even raised in Asia and taught there- they told me this in a Canadian class full of Canadian-Russian kids lol. It feels bad and I was a terrible dancer. I can’t imagine how bad it must’ve made Latrice feel.
Even if it wasn’t intended to be racist, it was certainly an instance of a micro-aggression. I think it’s more than fair that international viewers to get mad, explain why it is wrong and ask for greater sensitivity.
The comments on her IG are horrific though… There are quite a bit of accounts by foreigners who have attended Redlic’s classes and many say she’s actually super sweet and friendly to them irl. I’m not saying it excuses the statement, but maybe she isn’t a person you cannot reason with.
you're not the target of the remark so you cant decide if its racist or not. Even if it wasn't meant to be racist, redlic is a sore loser, and the dig wasn't necessary at all
The one comment up here is missing the point. I get what you are saying Chuuu I wanted to give red benefit of the doubt, but I feel it’s very high chance she is targeting Latrice and her dislike came off as racism. She wanted to critic Latrice have it easier bc of her physique, taller and longer limbs.but it came off as racism bc Latrice’s size is smth that runs in her ethnicity so it seems like she is targeting her race than her body size.
Latrice handled her. If she didn't put in effort, why did she wipe the floor with you. Corbin Hunter would smoke her too.
The thing is though black people are the most physically diverse group on the planet. The shortest and the tallest, with all the different features inbetween. There is no one "physical trait" to all black people except the average eye colour, skin colour and hair texture. I say average because there are extreme variations even with these "common traits," in those who are not mixed race.
came here from the original clip and THANK YOU! so eloquently broke this down step-by-step. Bravo!!❤
You are a very intelligent young man. I wish that you had a much greater audience.🙏🏽🎉
Thanks for breaking this video down ... i enjoyed it
Dancing doesn't have a race, it has a deliberate style. Latrice understood the style, she understood the reasons for the movements in the dance, Redlic did not, she memorized the dance, but I could tell she didn't understand the style. If Lisa from BP, decided to come on the show, she would understand the style and kill it, and that is all because of her hard work and dedication to the craft.
If Jam Republic got eliminated then I m not gonna watch SWF2 anymore 🥺 no offence to other crew but JR brings different kinda of excitement to this show which I didn't get from other crew and as for Trix I knw its sounds toxic but I kinda hate him ..k there I have said it 🫢 live Audience is biased
But the Korean girl clearly didn't have more finesse while dancing. It was as simple as that. Why the race card?
She lost!!! Period.
Latrice was simply BETTER you’re just not as good…. Never will be but good try
Uhm..... SHE MADE IT RACIST we would not be taking about it if she wouldn't of said what she said! for anyone to say it isn't lives in lala land. I have watch all of the street fighter seasons, nobody else has made any kind of dumb statement like that!
dude this is incredibly well said. thank you so much for expressing it
❤ thank you for being so open and honest. You are the change that our world needs
What I find interesting is that THIS STYLE OF DANCE originated in AMERICA's HIP HOP culture. The choreography, the move sets the energy...
Which asian cultures took interest in and have adopted in Korea, Japan, Thailand and The Philippines.. and to a lesser but still significant degree in China..
I think that it is awesome.
I do feel that it was racist...
But not to the degree of hate that I have seen in other situations.
Latrice's physicality comes from HARD WORK. Not NATURAL GIFTS due to her race and dna...
as is implied.
It sounds like a conversation needs to be had...
Every race possesses racists...
But, People of African descent are treated worst by all of them...
She was definitely being racist. If she couldn’t stand other race and colour she shouldn't have participated in stuff like this 🙄
thank u for translating directly and giving cultural context!!
She is wrong in everyway and her words only hold her people back......Hot message
First of all, she assumed that Lattice didn't make a effort...
Regarding to racist, the most of Korean don't use to interact so much ( people live in Korea) with foreigners because of lenguague...I think she got angry and said whatever thing without thinking..
On the other hand, can be understanding as racism because she speak about physic( it is could be.. she thought about curves...female attributes more striking eye catched ..because of her race) how know?
Anyway, when i could asist to some korean rnb performences and i notice that their behaviour is different in the europe concerts than asian concerts. They arent shy and act more closely....it is difficil to understanding each others because the culture, someting
A lot of dances originate from black culture. But that does not mean we just know how to dance because we are black. Some black people cant dance that well or don’t have rhythm. But she can’t just base it off that. This isn’t unexpected because in plenty of Asian countries racism towards black people is normal and an extremely common thing. Regardless if they do African dances because it looks cool but the skin color “isn’t”. Or they see us as dirty or scared to touch us for some reason. But that’s not fair to her because she did train and that was her passion. It’s all about how u do it. There are plenty of great dancers of different races and cultures. Just because hip hop was created by us doesn’t mean we all just know and it’s just easy everyone has to learn to be able to do anything in life.
We call it gaslighlighting. If you replace physicality with dance skills, she's right.
it's not even shocking anymore because people will just try to justify so what's the point?
I truly appreciate how you broke this down. Her comment may not have been racist but they were disrespectful. Thank you for sharing an teaching how words can hurt.
Huh? It’s not her attention that matters it’s how it was perceived! It was perceived as racist! The two dances were similar in physical stature! The only true physical difference was SKIN COLOR! That’s not sit here and pretend that there were any significant other physical differences other than skin color! They were similar in height, and they were similar in size! No significant physical differences, other than race! So to sit here and pretend that it wasn’t about skin color is intellectually cowardly! She faced other dancers in the competition that had significant physical differences in her and she didn’t complain then! it was about race! When you admit the problem, you can solve the problem if you have the courage to face and change the problem! Korean people that those dances you’re doing those beats you’re doing African-American dances and beats! Hip-hop that is black culture! So if you got a problem with a physical appearance of the people that created the dances and the rhythms that you now love you need to check yourself because you’re bout to wreck yourself! Insulting to pretend that that wasn’t about race! Just fix the problem! Confront the problem! Don’t pretend that people are being overly sensitive or that we always pull in the race card WHEN YOU PULLED IT FIRST! The young lady needs to confront her issues and be a better person! And Korean people who have those issues need to work on those issues too! We can learn to do better and we can be better! But pretending that colorism and racism exist in your society, won’t stop the problem! I know that is not all Korean people nor do I pretend that sometimes because of the racial issue that we have faced in the past, that people are not on edge or overly sensitive abt race YES WE ARE AND WE SHOULD BR GIVEN OUR PAST! We gotta learn from each other. We gotta interact with each other so we can learn how to interact with each other and do better.
If you look at the reactions of others in the room, what she said was taken as as highly racist/inappropriate. Redlic is a sore loser and a bad representation of the spirit of competition.
If she felt that confidence saying that I would be more confidence cussing her out in her own language, I promise ya🎉🎉🎉
I’ve experienced this crap, I was a great dancer, gymnast, cheerleader, singer and my “friend” at the time, it was always “you are only good at it cuz your black, and black ppl were bred to be stronger and faster, so that’s the only reason your better then me.” Yea I obviously dropped that friend but there is always shame as if “I can’t change being black, but I give my all into everything just the same as you” and so never felt comfortable outing that girl for what she said. At least when I was little, as an adult nah, I hold her responsible for her words and actions (fb reconnects everyone, right?)
Ppl need to be held responsible for their words & actions
The dances that y'all are copying you feel threatened are showing y'all up
Thank k-code for not sweeping it on the rug and explaining and translating what was said.
Thank you for breaking it down I love watching people of all walks dance this is wild and what space do we have
You know u can go to the choom and saw a video that latrice choreography chosen and then see the comment. There is a lot of korean comments at the top comment saying that “latrice choreography is bad rather than redlic, redlic choreography is good and i like it” and if u reply that comment u can see a lot of korean reply they agree with it and even they call out latrice “she said she doesn’t know the lyrics that’s why she just use the rhythm, u can dance without lyrics lmao, don’t just try to find reasons when the real reason is u can’t dance” if that’s not a racism then idk what is
Latrice got my attention even more after Redrick's comment. Maybe Latrice is just more interesting in the way she dances. I have black genes and I don't dance very much. Latrice is just better imo. Redrick comes across as jealous.
K, this is a bit lengthy so work w/me here. 1st- Everyone learn the difference between "Racism" and "Bigotry". It helps to know what you're actually talking about when passing judgment.
As hard as it has been for ALL women to be seen, integrated and respected in Hip Hop, street dance and entertainment in general, ALL women artists and performers globally should be and should have been offended by these bigoted coments-FACTS!! **Plus, am I the only one who thinks its funny that she has a problem with how a women of color looks and dances within her own cultural wheelhouse, in a dace competition she volunteered to participate in?.... No? Nobody? Just me....lmao!! If the shoe were on the other foot and Latrice said it wasn't fair the other girl won when she's not even a women of color dancing Hip-Hop/Street Dance, the world would have demolished her so darn fast. Why is it always okay to disregard and disrespect people of color but we are never in the right no matter the response and most times, we are not even allowed to have a response?
This competition is highlighting some of the very best female street dancers, internationally. It's a shame this young woman made the choice to be, act and speak with personal ignorance instead of embracing and enjoying the platform and level of excellence they are competing at. Everyone should just disregard her at this point. And Latrice and everyone else needs to stop acting like they are shocked and awed by this type of display on these type of shows. This attitude and speech is allowed, that is why it continues. None of the dancers, judges, nor production team checked her, or stopped her in her tracks. It made good TV to see the brown dancer humiliated globally by the other. And they are both women, both dancers, both will face similar challenges in the industry simply because they are women. And everyone there, every dancer, female judge, female producer, director, chief, professional who has ever had to fight extra hard and continues to have to prove herself let it happen. That's a shame. Ridiculousness!!
She should have just taken the L and walked away…..naaaawwww, she had to bring up a bloody stereotype to justify her pathetic attitude.
She is coming up with excuses, cause anyone can make extreme facial expressions while dancing to make you feel where they are coming from. The stereotypes are bullshit
How do we know whether you are interpreting the language right because it is of your culture
She thought see was going to win sense she was around her people. You lost girl bye!
thts right… it’s about hard work and dedication tht you put into it to win against your competition. 👍
Yea because not all black people can dance or play sports heck whatever the stereotype for any race is not all true it is what we learn 😊 we all bleed the same color ❤
Your take comes from something books cant teach. It comes from genuinely caring how your words are received. Its better to be understood than to be right
What does effort is effort is to you . If you think dancing with all your might, but there is no expression in your dance ir what we call sauce no it is not about being fair , you just don't know how to dance. Dancing is with your all about using every part of your body and matching it to the rythm. And sometimes you don't have to go all hard it is about skills
Theoretically speaking, something can be both a stereotype and be true. _"Blacks are innately fast sprinters; producing some of the worlds fastest men and women."_ This statement is equally stereotypical and true. It's stereotypically true.
verry well ѕaιd
Thank you for watching!
Wether they like it or not, Letrice is a machine. Her hits are very strong due to regular practice so they should not credit it to her looks. It's her hardwork.
You are 100% correct. You are also 100% FINE AS HELL. All success to you, brother.
It was racist and this guy knows it. He made sure to cover his mouth the whole time, just-in-case he had to over dub his audio do to backlash. I know how Koreans get down.