I do hope you both go out for a beer after these sessions. Your training partner deserves one. Also, as you noted, I was taught that the bac hand is important, and that rotation at the end of both was necessary to a good block. That the time spent learning this would allow for the block to be made quickly, automatically, without having to think through all the motions.
One time, literally one time, it worked exactly as taught. Bar fight, suddenly out of the mosh someone throws sanbontsuki, triple punch, head-gut-gut, textbook as taught in the dojo. And I had recently got my black belt. My arm just did the counter blocks as trained, shot out a reverse punch in return. Every other time, it's been exactly as you say here: Both hands, close work, leverage. All those blocks in the air train for grappling and/or work as strikes.
Great knowledge here. I appreciate that you're always telling people to start with big circles and continue making them smaller and tighter. Also, that you're always reminding people that power and rotation comes from the body, not the hands or the arms.
The reason you don't see them in high level fighting is because for larger blocks to work you need deep commitment from an attacker. More skilled fighter do not commit as much. With them movement and parries or more effective. Blocks are good in the right time and place, but not in all situations.
@TheKarateMan-q6c A block is a block. Why would one add large and unnecessary movements to any technique? This only takes time and weakens the overall defense.
Wow I feel like I am watching 1970s bull shoot Karate. This only works on someone that is helping you look good. Never work in a real fight against a real fighter !!!
Not helpful to the audience. Instead of generalizations that mean nothing, you should show you expertise be explaining why what I showed was technically incorrect and how it should be done better. Feel free to show the viewers how much you understand about movement, alignment, timing, etc. I am always amused to see if someone is capable of making an intelligent , well thought out response.
@ I am really not want to be mean. What you are showing might be good for exercise but in a real fight use the stuff you show and your students will become victims.
@ 1. Nobody stands at the distance in a real fight. 2. Nobody leaves their arm extended after a punch for you to play with the arm. 3. Almost all street fights end up on the ground 4.fights are not choreographed like a dance Have you ever boxed, wrestled, or jiu-jitsu ?
@@bruceyoung565 3. Nope, far from most fights ends on the ground. People in general don't want to go to the ground and will do what they can to prevent that.
@ I can tell you have not been in many fight or seen many street fights . This style of fighting is for people who can’t fight. They believe some stupid blocking technique will work in a real fight. Most fight end up in ground, not because they want to go ground. That is what happens when two people fight . Either way learning this stuff will only get you hurt if try this one step fighting bull shoot. There’s a guy in China that went to all the Chinese masters just a fat average MMA fighter is destroyed literally 50 of these grand masters .
In my personal opinion, all the "wax on, wax off" blocking techniques take too much time where every second counts in a fight for survival. The principle of " the fastest way to go from point A to point B is a straight line" would also apply to blocking as you would see in wing chun. You can also utilize that principle while also blocking/striking simultaneously. Bruce Lee demonstrated that technique, and it is also used in a type of Japanese aikido(I dont remember the name, but I recently saw video on it). This is merely my opinion based on what I have learned. I'm am not saying you are wrong and that it doesn't work. In my opinion, there is a better way. No technique is finite. All can be improved on over time and there will always be someone who discovers an easier, faster, and more effective way to do any technique or create a new one altogether. I thank you for your instructional video. Thank you for sharing. 😌 🤜🫷
@michaelanderson4849 Not as much and I think that it should be more present. That's why it's important to have more than one tool in your toolbox. Differences in opinions are not worth debating as it would result in a "pissing contest." I'm not saying that wc-style is the #1 best style, but I do feel(again, in my opinion) that is just how I feel in that type of situation. The important thing is to do what works for you. A win is a win. Thank you for your comment. I appreciate it. 😊
@@mattnobrega6621 No worries! I don't view a discussion like this as a pissing anything. After a bit over four decades of getting punched, elbowed, kneed, kicked and tied into a knot, I have few illusions left of what works and not. The WC guys I've fought were way less of a problem than the taekwondo guys and their long-range kicks. And the WC punches and blocks were not an issue. When any kind of punching style is allowed the WC-style is hardly ever seen being used. And that is for a good reason.
@michaelanderson4849 I guess a combat situation is different than sparring or competition. Being a military veteran, I was trained for combat, so I guess it all depends on the situation. Thank you again 😏👍
@@mattnobrega6621 Military veteran here too. I can honestly say that what I was taught in the military about weaponless close combat was utter 🐂💩. But then again the time limitations they have to work with makes it pretty much hopeless to begin with.
I do hope you both go out for a beer after these sessions. Your training partner deserves one. Also, as you noted, I was taught that the bac hand is important, and that rotation at the end of both was necessary to a good block. That the time spent learning this would allow for the block to be made quickly, automatically, without having to think through all the motions.
One time, literally one time, it worked exactly as taught. Bar fight, suddenly out of the mosh someone throws sanbontsuki, triple punch, head-gut-gut, textbook as taught in the dojo. And I had recently got my black belt. My arm just did the counter blocks as trained, shot out a reverse punch in return.
Every other time, it's been exactly as you say here: Both hands, close work, leverage. All those blocks in the air train for grappling and/or work as strikes.
Great knowledge here. I appreciate that you're always telling people to start with big circles and continue making them smaller and tighter. Also, that you're always reminding people that power and rotation comes from the body, not the hands or the arms.
Why haven't I seen this done in real fights between high level fighters? If you can point me to footage of any such events I'd appreciate it.
The reason you don't see them in high level fighting is because for larger blocks to work you need deep commitment from an attacker. More skilled fighter do not commit as much. With them movement and parries or more effective. Blocks are good in the right time and place, but not in all situations.
@TheKarateMan-q6c A block is a block. Why would one add large and unnecessary movements to any technique? This only takes time and weakens the overall defense.
Wow I feel like I am watching 1970s bull shoot Karate. This only works on someone that is helping you look good. Never work in a real fight against a real fighter !!!
Not helpful to the audience. Instead of generalizations that mean nothing, you should show you expertise be explaining why what I showed was technically incorrect and how it should be done better. Feel free to show the viewers how much you understand about movement, alignment, timing, etc. I am always amused to see if someone is capable of making an intelligent , well thought out response.
@ I am really not want to be mean.
What you are showing might be good for exercise but in a real fight use the stuff you show and your students will become victims.
@ 1. Nobody stands at the distance in a real fight.
2. Nobody leaves their arm extended after a punch for you to play with the arm.
3. Almost all street fights end up on the ground
4.fights are not choreographed like a dance
Have you ever boxed, wrestled, or jiu-jitsu ?
@@bruceyoung565 3. Nope, far from most fights ends on the ground. People in general don't want to go to the ground and will do what they can to prevent that.
@ I can tell you have not been in many fight or seen many street fights
. This style of fighting is for people who can’t fight. They believe some stupid blocking technique will work in a real fight.
Most fight end up in ground, not because they want to go ground. That is what happens when two people fight . Either way learning this stuff will only get you hurt if try this one step fighting bull shoot.
There’s a guy in China that went to all the Chinese masters just a fat average MMA fighter is destroyed literally 50 of these grand masters .
In my personal opinion, all the "wax on, wax off" blocking techniques take too much time where every second counts in a fight for survival. The principle of " the fastest way to go from point A to point B is a straight line" would also apply to blocking as you would see in wing chun. You can also utilize that principle while also blocking/striking simultaneously. Bruce Lee demonstrated that technique, and it is also used in a type of Japanese aikido(I dont remember the name, but I recently saw video on it). This is merely my opinion based on what I have learned. I'm am not saying you are wrong and that it doesn't work. In my opinion, there is a better way. No technique is finite. All can be improved on over time and there will always be someone who discovers an easier, faster, and more effective way to do any technique or create a new one altogether. I thank you for your instructional video. Thank you for sharing. 😌
🤜🫷
@@mattnobrega6621 But do you see that WC-style of blocking being used in real high level fighting?
@michaelanderson4849
Not as much and I think that it should be more present. That's why it's important to have more than one tool in your toolbox. Differences in opinions are not worth debating as it would result in a "pissing contest." I'm not saying that wc-style is the #1 best style, but I do feel(again, in my opinion) that is just how I feel in that type of situation. The important thing is to do what works for you. A win is a win. Thank you for your comment. I appreciate it. 😊
@@mattnobrega6621 No worries! I don't view a discussion like this as a pissing anything. After a bit over four decades of getting punched, elbowed, kneed, kicked and tied into a knot, I have few illusions left of what works and not. The WC guys I've fought were way less of a problem than the taekwondo guys and their long-range kicks. And the WC punches and blocks were not an issue. When any kind of punching style is allowed the WC-style is hardly ever seen being used. And that is for a good reason.
@michaelanderson4849
I guess a combat situation is different than sparring or competition. Being a military veteran, I was trained for combat, so I guess it all depends on the situation.
Thank you again 😏👍
@@mattnobrega6621 Military veteran here too. I can honestly say that what I was taught in the military about weaponless close combat was utter 🐂💩. But then again the time limitations they have to work with makes it pretty much hopeless to begin with.