The Scenario where the French strong-arm Mossiland really is the TNO universe's Vietnam paralell. I love the South African War, but it's unlikely it would be viewed so similarly to the Vietnam war as it is presented to be in the mod, but I still love the atomosphere and vibe. The West African War is madly underrated. It is both pretty accurate alt-history for a scenario where the free french have overstayed their welcome in the colonies, and fits very well into the TNO cold war with Japan funding unrest for the western powers in Africa.
I agree with that, I read a comment in the TNO subreddit that the South African War is closer to the Korean War (as both nations are surrounded by enemies). So the West African War is definitely much more fitting. Definitely a lot of potential
@@OperatorMax1993 Yes, Especially with the large numbers of OFN coalition forces fighting a horde of Ideological enemies bearing down from the north, it is much more like Korea.
Something people have to remember about this scenario... this area is MUCH larger than Vietnam. So imagine Vietnam, but the US is even more spread out and there's even more jungle for guerrillas to use.
@timwinterhalter5233 huh?!?!?! Why the he'll would they do that?!? First atlantropa now this... it's like they're trying to get rid of everything which makes tno tno
@@bigbad5067 Atlantropa really ruined the Mediterranean Nations Gameplay. Pretty much completely destroyed Italy's Power Projection Anywhere. The German Civil War being removed was to I guess maybe stop to unrealistic thing of a Superpower having a civil war then somehow returning to World dominance like nothing happened. Like if the USA had a Civil War would it just return to being a world hegemon within 3 years of it ending?
Ooooooh! The misunderstood poet....not much different in 1965-then 2024.. nothing you can do but stand back and watch when someone wants to self-destruct. Another pointless loss and the list goes on,and on, and on. Thanks, Jim.
Both the OFN and the German Afrika Shield have their own guerrilla groups that they support, the U.S. and South Africa have the African National Congress which are like those Anti Commie villagers in OTL South Vietnam. And the German Afrika Shield has the Boers, which essentially the OTL Viet Cong. As for the West African War, I guess it's the TNO version of the Laotian and Cambodian Civil Wars put together, with the PALF as the Pathet Lao and Khmer Rouge put together (though I'm sure the PALF isn't as technophobic or tyrannical as the Khmer Rouge). What do you all think?
The south african war is more like korea, as it is clear who started the war (the Afrika-Schild) and its literal nazis that the south africans are fighting. The west african war is more similar to vietnam as the american public is just as divided over the war as irl with vietnam. The PALF is north vietnam and FMA/WAA is the south.
@@jackbartholomaus6510 yes. South africa is also otl south koreans because the entire ofn and brazil can send up to 7-9 volunteer divisions, which is basically the same thing as the UN helping south korea
@@jackbartholomaus6510 WAW causes anti war protests in the US (mentioned in one of the superevents) and the war can bog down into a stalemate for years even if free france gets the US support. Without support, Free france and the west african alliance if there is one will be steamrolled by cameroon if socialists come to power in mali, giving the FMA and WAA a second front to deal with. As the US you also have to be quick about the war so charles de gaulle doesnt die during the war because he is needed for the french reclamation.
In this canon three factions are formed in west africa 1 the Pan-African Liberation Front, the West African Alliance and the French Military Alliance, and they all go to war against each other
That's the point Most of the footage is off American troops and material in Vietnam, the reason as to why its used is well, West Africa looks just like Vietnam
@@jackbartholomaus6510So this war has 3 scenarios 1.FMA vs WAA vs PALF(this video) 2.WAA vs PALF 3.FMA vs PALF Free France is OFN's strategic ally but the American public's opinions are mixed
The Scenario where the French strong-arm Mossiland really is the TNO universe's Vietnam paralell. I love the South African War, but it's unlikely it would be viewed so similarly to the Vietnam war as it is presented to be in the mod, but I still love the atomosphere and vibe. The West African War is madly underrated. It is both pretty accurate alt-history for a scenario where the free french have overstayed their welcome in the colonies, and fits very well into the TNO cold war with Japan funding unrest for the western powers in Africa.
I agree with that, I read a comment in the TNO subreddit that the South African War is closer to the Korean War (as both nations are surrounded by enemies). So the West African War is definitely much more fitting. Definitely a lot of potential
@@OperatorMax1993 Yes, Especially with the large numbers of OFN coalition forces fighting a horde of Ideological enemies bearing down from the north, it is much more like Korea.
@@AReservoirDog as they also use locals to join the war (Zentral Afrika allowing africans in the army)
The South African War is like the Vietnam War, but both sides are the US. They both have their own Viet Cong (Boers and ANC)
@@randomtheorist251 I felt that comparing the ANC to FULRO is more appropriate since the ANC fought both the Boers-Afrika-Schild and South Africa-OFN.
Idea: English Civil war
with "FIRE" as the baxkground music
English Civil war with "English civil war" from The Clash
@@__dechampignac8567 baby blue on brackound
They didn't have jets and tanks back then
@@plikoniushe’s talking about the tno kingdom of England civil war
Dude dropped three amazing TNO videos then dipped.
1:13 dude on the left was hyped
Must be a Doors fan, can't blame him, The Doors are a bop
Please do more, these are absolutely fantastic you legend!!
GOOOOOD MORNING AFRICA
BRO THIS SHIT IS REAL😭
Have you ever heard of something called the Rhodesian War?
Username checks out
Yes is real footage of a differant timeline where the allies won ww2
@@Mr.MIVATEO Weird. Is there a mod?
@@johnd2058Cold war: Iron curtain Freedoms last fight
TNO Becoming reality
Great Trial: Check
West African War: Check
Great Asian War: ?
South African War: ?
Great Asian War is the invasion of Taiwan
The New Cold War
The New Order Era
Coming soon
@@purple8798Update: The Levantine War Crisis during the Oil Crisis happened.
wait the great trial happened.. did i miss something 😭
the war in Ukraine@@bingodingi
Something people have to remember about this scenario... this area is MUCH larger than Vietnam. So imagine Vietnam, but the US is even more spread out and there's even more jungle for guerrillas to use.
These are INSANE please make more!
i think the german civil war should be next, its literally the most important conflict in game
The GCW will be removed in the future and replaced by a power struggle
its getting removed
@timwinterhalter5233 huh?!?!?! Why the he'll would they do that?!? First atlantropa now this... it's like they're trying to get rid of everything which makes tno tno
@@bigbad5067 ship of Theseus but with devs. probably a reaction or overreaction to Certain Segments of the community predictably being wild
@@bigbad5067 Atlantropa really ruined the Mediterranean Nations Gameplay.
Pretty much completely destroyed Italy's Power Projection Anywhere.
The German Civil War being removed was to I guess maybe stop to unrealistic thing of a Superpower having a civil war then somehow returning to World dominance like nothing happened.
Like if the USA had a Civil War would it just return to being a world hegemon within 3 years of it ending?
You've given me massive inspiration for my vids man, thank you
OH BOY ITS GONNA HAPPEN
Relevant now that ECOWAS will intervene in Niger with Burkina and Mali siding with the new junta
Idea:
OFN invasion of burgandy
i second this, what songs would be good?
@@bigbad5067no clue, that's his decision
Adrian George's burgundy invasion
I guess this is TNO’s version of Vietnam
technically it is
South Africa is
@@Dannyboi-re7vbsouth Africa is more like kore or iraq
yeah but they dont want to leave south africa unlike otl
@@courier6733 Its the Korean War but alot less Dense and Technologically advanced
Jokes aside, how one can find this songs and make them fit. Like, are like billions.
this is fire, PLEASE DO MORE
10/10 amazing 😊
nice video and even better song
Nothing beats the doors
nice work.
Half a million, man i can do it with 2 aircav divisions
We need another video
Amazing
Charlie don’t surf!
ngl listening to this while playing dead ahead goes hard
real life is becoming TNO
HELL YEAH WE WILL GO
The Doors? What a fvcking masterpiece.
yes
So my grandpa fought in nam from 68-69. But in this timeline I guess my grandpa would be fighting pan-Africanist in Cameroon.
Weird how that works
Please come back bro
0:01 *2023
Coming soon IRL...
Another Sk1doosh Classic
fire
miss ya
Minions theme
Ooooooh! The misunderstood poet....not much different in 1965-then 2024.. nothing you can do but stand back and watch when someone wants to self-destruct.
Another pointless loss and the list goes on,and on, and on.
Thanks, Jim.
I sing my heart out to this shi😭
AH WE WERE SO CLOSE!
Idea: The Great Trial
that's just amazing and it would be more amazing if you did a video on other hoi4 mod, e.g. kaiserreich or twr
TWR Sino-American cold war vid would be crazy
idea: 2nd german civil war (Bormann loses 2WRW)
when is next sk1doosh upload fr
Idea:second italo-turkish war
Trocava com o meu pai .. quem me dera ter vivido essa era .
Americans after hearing that the changeling land is mostly out of trees and grass (i guess?)
Ok fine i'll play America
Epic
idk anything about HOI but W song choice 🔥
To the other side
A "Vietnam war" of TNO's United States
Idea: Italy re-invasion of red greece
So LBJ would not help Rhodesia would not help South Africa but when it comes to a little further west, it’s
“ eliminate the problem at all cost”
Great video! Love how you compiled it to look so good and the song is great. Where did you get the footage of the African Soldiers?
i think you should the OFN invasian of Japan or like Hawaian Missile Crisis.
Ok I just to into TNO, I know what the WAA and PALF are but what is the FMA...
FMA = French Military Alliance. Only happen when West African War broke into 3 side conflict
French military alliance
@@Premium-Dumb-Ass ty
Both the OFN and the German Afrika Shield have their own guerrilla groups that they support, the U.S. and South Africa have the African National Congress which are like those Anti Commie villagers in OTL South Vietnam. And the German Afrika Shield has the Boers, which essentially the OTL Viet Cong.
As for the West African War, I guess it's the TNO version of the Laotian and Cambodian Civil Wars put together, with the PALF as the Pathet Lao and Khmer Rouge put together (though I'm sure the PALF isn't as technophobic or tyrannical as the Khmer Rouge). What do you all think?
The south african war is more like korea, as it is clear who started the war (the Afrika-Schild) and its literal nazis that the south africans are fighting. The west african war is more similar to vietnam as the american public is just as divided over the war as irl with vietnam. The PALF is north vietnam and FMA/WAA is the south.
@@sundownergaming4263 So the Boers are essentially the OTL North Koreans from the Korean War and the Afrika-Schild are the OTL Chinese?
@@jackbartholomaus6510 yes. South africa is also otl south koreans because the entire ofn and brazil can send up to 7-9 volunteer divisions, which is basically the same thing as the UN helping south korea
@@sundownergaming4263 OK, and what's the thing with the West African War?
@@jackbartholomaus6510 WAW causes anti war protests in the US (mentioned in one of the superevents) and the war can bog down into a stalemate for years even if free france gets the US support. Without support, Free france and the west african alliance if there is one will be steamrolled by cameroon if socialists come to power in mali, giving the FMA and WAA a second front to deal with. As the US you also have to be quick about the war so charles de gaulle doesnt die during the war because he is needed for the french reclamation.
Sources for the africa footage?
Kagera war
Do one where palf wins (good ending)
Когда новое видио? У тебя очень круто получается
can someone explain whats happening for me? i dont know anything about TNO
Me neither, but from my understanding:
Free France remains in West Africa, resistance doesnt like that and fights back, USA intervenes
In this canon three factions are formed in west africa 1 the Pan-African Liberation Front, the West African Alliance and the French Military Alliance, and they all go to war against each other
Come black please man..
Is this channel dead pls be not
Looks like vietnam to me
That's the point
Most of the footage is off American troops and material in Vietnam, the reason as to why its used is well, West Africa looks just like Vietnam
@@redactedagentdataexpunged9431 I see some footage from Rhodesia, Angola and Portuguese Ultramar
Idea:
Italo Turkish War
What is the FMA short for?
French military alliance
@@KavitaPatil-hg5qm Also why would the USA and OFN be fighting against both the PALF and WAA?
@@jackbartholomaus6510So this war has 3 scenarios
1.FMA vs WAA vs PALF(this video)
2.WAA vs PALF
3.FMA vs PALF
Free France is OFN's strategic ally but the American public's opinions are mixed
Krauts don’t surf
I'd still rather hear the train.....nice video though
Перезалив?
I think this one from Reddit
The USA being the USA