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Scales and gauges part 15 HOn3 - OOn3 - HOm - HOn42
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- HO scale is the most popular model railroad (model railway) scale, and while "standard gauge", 4 feet 81/2 inches, is also the most popular gauge for HO scale, HOn3 is also quite popular in the US. In the United Kindom however, OO scale is more popular and the three-foot gauge version of that is OOn3.
In other parts of Europe and Japan, HOm (meter gauge) and HOn42, 42-inch gauge are also quite popular. In Switzerland HOm with a center rack rail for cog wheel railroads is also often modeled. Where in Japan HOn42 is often modeled because Japan the standard gauge is 42 inches. The high-speed Shinkansen trains run on "wide gauge", 4 feet 81/2 inches. Yes, that is standard gauge in much of the world, but in Japan, it's considered wide gauge!
I am still modeling Ho and Hon3 while my eyes and hand still hold out. The older we get, the harder it gets to work with very small parts. I started in hand laying track in Ho when I was 14, and now 52 years later I still love working in Ho and Hon3. I do have some On30 engines and rolling stock when the time comes that I need to switch. Be safe and see you both on Sunday show.👍🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🐈🙂
I hope they start making On30 again. Rumor is they are going to run the C16!! Let’s hope.. and hope it’s not $1000!
HO is standard gauge, HOn2 is 2-foot gauge, HOn2 1/2 is 30-inch, HOn3 is 3-foot gauge, HOm is a meter which is 3 ft 3 3/8 in or 39 3/8 inches, HOn3 1/2 is 42-inch gauge or Japan, South Africa, etc. HOn2.5 done in MiniTrains was great as an easy substitute for Maine Two-foot on N-scale track similar to F & G or even On30 on HO track ease of equipment running gear.
Looks cool those tiny trains
Fun
Thanks!!!! We enjoy making these. The teacher coming out I guess…❤
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Thanks. As always. Stay warm!! It’s cold outside. Unless your in San Diego.
@@ToyManTelevision In Chicago and it is 14F/-10C. Hope you are warmer where you are at. Have a great and warm rest of the day.
Great video , interesting rail transfer point hummmmm, Thanks...
Right?? That’s the only time I’ve seen that modeled. Seen photos of the prototype. But this is great!
Good information . thank you Have a great week
Thanks, you too!
Funny thing is i started off with G scale/F scale. Moved to N scale. And now currently finding my way around On30 to finally have a narrow gauge layput i have wanted that didn't cost me a fortune to start.
Mt. Washington is a cog Rail way in New Hampshire. Over 6000 feet high.i been on the one in Colorado.
Omg! I wanted one of those Blackstone locos with the Russian Iron blue! But I got a c-18 though
Still a great model!! You could search eBay for the blue boiler one..
Another great video with some great information.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks as ALWAYS. ❤
My brother and I had the 027 Lionel and I tried HO but my heart ❤ was into N Scale back in the 60s. My father said I was crazy because N Scale was to small, I said Z Scale was to small but N Scale drove circles around everything else. I knew I would never get the room for either 027 or HO so N was the answer.
Love it.
Right on!!
Have you seen TT Scale is making a comeback? Hornby have released a whole bunch of stuff in recent months, calling it "TT:120".
I had a car back in the 80’s. Just a stainless steel passenger car. Just as a collector. Only TT I had ever seen!
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I Always enjoy watching your videos!! I’m from Magna
Awesome! Thank you!
Did you see our show on the kennacott railroad and my grandmas house in Magna?
@@ToyManTelevision yes I sure did!! Loved it!! Your videos are awsome! Hope to see you at HOSTLERS this year lol
I always think of HO as 3.5mm to the foot and OO as 4mm to the foot, makes it easy to figure out the rail gauge.
I always model in metric. What’s half of 9/16”? Or what is half of 14mm? Why people try to model in SAE or imperial is beyond me…
Nice little bit on the Japanese trains there. I have one passenger train from Japan called the Hokutosei and three locomotives. It's a shame that blackstone hasn't been active in the market lately. What a interesting scale to model Hon3.
I always thought HOn30/31/2 ran on 9mm N gauge track. Otherwise my narrow gauge branch is a bit narrower then I thought lol!
Next weeks show…. HOn30. 9mm gauge. This is HOn31/2. Or HOn42. Same thing. I miss spoke it as HOn31. No such thing. But the text is correct.
Ireland is not a part of Great Brittain. Only Northern Ireland is. The Isle of Man isn't Irish or part of the UK. The Isle of Man is an internally self-governing dependency of the British Crown.
Hum. “Not in Britain but very common in Ireland. And the the famous railway on the Isle of Man. So OOn3 is a somewhat popular scale and gauge in Britain, great Britain, especially Ireland…” so I can understand the confusion but what I’m saying here is that OOn3 is not very popular in Britain, but is popular in Ireland.
I do N scale but would love to get hold of Hon3 but either can't find one or cost to much to get someday will find one just know it. I have had so much fun learning about gauge. Thank you for teaching me.
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My comment was not posted. Often RUclips does that. Once the bot approves it there is a comment.
Found the comment. It’s at the top of the comments.
NARROW GAUGE TRIVIA.
What is the only 3 foot 6 inch narrow gauge currently in operation in the United States?
San Francisco's Cable Car system.
Well I know of a coal mine.. all underground! Oh and closed…but the tracks are still in!!( I snuck in about 20 years ago…
I went up scales as my eyes aged too
So the famous TT of the Isle of Man is linked to the TT scale by OOn3!
HO isn't that popular in Japan, N scale is main scale there. HO is mainly used on big museum layouts. I never seen any HOm (or whatever for cap gauge) in Japan, as they prefer to cheat: normal trains and shinkansen are both put on HO tracks, but normal trains are 1/80. As there normal trains may be a bit smaller than what we have on standard gauge, and that shinkansen are bigger (standard gauge but larger clearance), the scale difference isn't visible, at least for westerner, everything seems to be normal HO.
OO9 is most popular narrow gauge in the UK as its comes to 2ft 4in in gauge
Hum… that’s next weeks show!!!! And HOe.
Another good video but I have to get pedantic again...
There was no mention of the differences between US "HO" and European "H0" or did I miss it?
NMRA HO is defined as a scale of 1:87.1 with a gauge of between 0.649 inches and 0.672 inches. (See S1.2 2009.07, the inch measurements are normative)
MOROP H0 is defined as a scale of 1:87.0 with a gauge of between 16.5 mm and 16.8mm. (See nem110 2009)
These two are not identical even though they are close.🤔
And I’ve only seen 16.5mm for both… hum..
@@ToyManTelevision When most modellers talk about gauge (or gage) what they usually mean is the *minimum* gauge. The minimum distance between the inside edges of the rails.
When standards define a gauge they have to set both a minimum and a maximum. You could think of it in engineering terms as setting a tolerance level. For finescale or proto-scale the difference between the minimum gauge and the maximum is reduced.
The standards each go on to set wheelset dimensions (with minima and maxima) that are guaranteed to run on compliant track.
Building and maintaining track (model or prototype) is not a precise art and you have to take into account wear and tear.
In case anyone was wondering I did the same for US "O" and European "0".
NMRA O is defined as a scale of 1:48 with a gauge of between 1.250 inches and 1.285 inches. (See S1.2 2009.07, the inch measurements are normative)
MOROP 0 is defined as a scale of 1:45 with a gauge of between 32.0 mm and 32.3 mm. A scale of 1:43.5 is mentioned as an alternative "in some countries". (See nem010 2011 and nem110 2009)
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I have a stainless steel book model polar express train and it’s a 2-6-0
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@@ToyManTelevision I put it together and it’s heavy
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HORMBY TT:120
what is the bird in the back gound ? is it good old aussie budgie
Nope. It’s TWO Aussie budgies! Sunny and Sky.
I see 844 at 0:22
So. Where does the std. n gauge figure in to HO scale in all this? Is there an equivalent to the On30 situation? I'm confused.
There is an HO scale models using N track equivalent to the On30 situation. These are the HO scale trains also made gauged for 9mm N gauge track as HOn2.5 or HOn30 2.5 feet or 30 inches. Scales out just a fraction of an inch over the 30 inches. I am most familiar with the models made to represent the 30 inch gauge Puffing Billy Railway in Australia. Although the models I have bought are the O scale quarter inch to the foot models of the Puffing Billy 2-6-2T Bawldin locomotives running on HO gauge track. So On30. A search for Haskell Puffing Billy will show more.
In the UK Bachmann and others are making OO scale models running on N gaige track that they call OO9. Scales out at 27 inch gauge used by some Welsh lines and near enough to the 24 inch others. Search RUclips for Bachmann Fairlie to see more. Some UK O scale narrow gauge models starting to be made. Using 7mm per foot scale it works out to be 27 inch gauge, so close enough to the Welsh narrow gauges without too much extra work.
Much more popular than the OOn3 on TT track talked about here that only have a limited range of kits available.
Even the HO scale on TT track is rare but some Australian diesel models are made with the option of bogies gauged to TT to be very close to 42 inch gauge used in some Australian states like Queensland, Tasmania and parts of Western Australia and South Australia. Plans for some models to be in Malaysian liveries for the Australian locomotives sold to Malaysia.
Wow!!! Thanks!! Yup HOn30 or HOn2 1/2 was quite popular in the US in the 90s. Still around and some nice resin kits available. But super popular in Europe. Where it’s known as HOe. For European. Several different gauges lumped into this model gauge. But quite popular there.
I love HOn3 and love Blackstone but it is a real shame they can’t keep producing more equipment. I hate how the secondary market is so exorbitantly high for any piece of equipment. And it’s sad that their K-28 and K-36 projects have come to a screaming halt.
I asked them how they make the blackstone models. No comment. Other than they are made for them. So… China? If you want the inside story of train manufacturing in China look at Rapido RUclips channel. They moved their factory to southern China from northern China because the costs in northern China are now higher than California!! And all of the trains are made in northern China. Explains the failure of F scale and On30 Bachmann.
@@ToyManTelevision I’ve heard that they want to continue making their models but they want to sell them at the price that they have been in the past, but today factories overseas would charge so much that the engines would cost upwards of $1000, comparable to actual brass models, and they don’t want to do that