Apparently the TARDIS is sentient. So basically anytime it disappears or the Doctor thinks he's lost it, it's just the ship going "eh, I'll show up when he needs me, I know where to be."
Also Doctor is time sensitive, Tardis is a Time Machine and it kind of makes thematic and gravity sense to be drawn to the heart of the planet. Yeah in the the EU beteeen time sensitive and complex space time events, they keep on making up new reasons for his plot armor. But I am fine with it because he a freaking time lord, makes sense time would bend to him a little bit.
The scene that really sold me on the Beast's boasts not being empty was seeing the possessed Toby outside, completely exposed to the vacuum of space no worse for ware despite having a fragile human body. It's like the Beast is flexing his ability to defy the rules of the setting
It actually makes the Beast far more human. One thing in every depiction of an Elder God is they have absolulty nothing they need to prove to us. It is a complete waste of time to "flex" and show off becuase it is so far above us, it does not need our admiration, approval or worship. Now taking his showing off as proof that while powerful yes, it still comes up short to God Tier. My take is that an ancient Type III Civilization using Science for questionable reasons accidently created the Beast . The Beast just wants to get free and live some small bit of life that it never got to being imprisoned for millions of years. Did it go about it is a bad way. Maybe, however nobody can say how they would feel after a million year sentence until they complete.... a million year sentence. Trapped on an empty planet, for eterenity, being unable to die, knowing if any creature looks upon it, will panic, and refuse to listen to any explanation. Are the humans really the good guys here?
@@JustapErson The evil creature isn't the Beast, the Beast is the body of the creature after the mind abandoned it, did they not say something along those lines when they found out it was mindless?
It also fits right in with the other stuff as well in this video because she recognises that the ood can be exploited so worked to protect them from that. And what protects you from exploitation from within your job? A union. It's not only based but works with the themes too. (Granted I don't think a union would have done much with the Beast, but at the very least, it's the thought that counts)
Its a real testament to the incredible art and physical effects team that they managed to make the Ood look so alien and sinister yet also look so kind
@@NeonValleys What does this comment even mean? Also when did the Doctor even wear a skirt, he wore a kilt but never a skirt. It seems like you are just making up things to be mad about
@@thedukeofcheese6884 lol tell me you didn't watch all the new episodes without telling me. He did wear a skirt and it was fabulous, ur just making stuff up to be mad about sweetheart 😘
@@NeonValleys I think I misinterpreted your comment, I thought you were mad about the skirt. Also are you sure, I thought it was a kilt but if it was a skirt that’s cool too
@@waterwaveybaby Ok I know this sounds utterly unbelievable but it is true, I swear. For some reason, I don't really remember most of my dreams, if I even have them most nights - I assume I do, but I can still count on my fingers the number of dreams I remembered when I woke up. Another weird thing about my dreams is that all of them seem to be fairly fleshed out stories; they might have strange things happening, but it would all make sense within the world of the dream. Starting with Nine, I began watching Doctor Who I think during the first or second season of Eleven. About 1-2 years before I watched the show, one of my dreams was EXTREMELY similar to "The Waters of Mars": 1. A group of people trapped on a space station 2. An outsider who doesn't belong with and doesn't really like the crew but is there anyway 3. A scientific expedition to try and find signs of past life on the planet 4. The discovery of not only past, but also present, life on the planet 5. That life being some kind of sentient water monster 6. Chases through the space station to try and get away from/ neutralize the entity 7. The crew being picked off one by one dying in horrible ways. Again, this was at least 2-3 years before I actually saw that episode and when it I started texting with my friend who was caught up on the show in all caps freaking out about it more and more as the episode went on.
The reason I love this episode is because the Beast is as far above the Doctor as the Doctor is above other humans. The particular line after the Doctor went on about different religions and how the Beast can't be real, "Is that your religion?", followed by the Doctor's silence and sheepish response is fantastic.
While the TARDIS being in the pit looks like an asspull (and honestly I think it probably was) I think that gust of wind that blasts the Doctor into it is interesting. With the episode focusing so heavily on faith and the devil specifically its interesting that despite being named there's no presence of the other, the light. Probably because while Doctor Who can handwave the beast as just a creature they don't want to confirm a literal creator god but I like to think that the TARDIS wasn't in the pit until the Doctor smashed the jars. His faith was rewarded with the way out and that gust of wind was the presence of the other making itself known if only subtly to thank the Doctor for dooming the beast.
I fully agree. Just the fact that we don't get any answers leaves this episode stuck in the back of my mind. The horror of never fully understanding what it was, why the language didn't translate, how everything possible pointed towards it being Earth's idea of the devil so far away from Earth? It's mind boggling. Plus introducing the Ood is great. I never really minded the ending with him finding the tardis cause the episode is based around faith and the impossible so it felt fitting for his lifeline to coincidentally show up exactly when he needed it. So yeah, great video!
Thanks so much! Yeah I think it was the right choice too, no answers they would of came up with would have been as interesting as just wondering about it, I think finding the tardis just happens so quick that I was caught a little off guard but it’s a big story and fitting it all in the time they hard was probably difficult, still my favourite two parter
For me, the darkest would be Donna choosing to die in 'Turn Left', and the voices of the dead begging not to be dissected in 'Dark Waters/Death in Heaven'. Chilling and deeply unsettling.
the Ood are one of my favorite aliens. not only do they look amazing and realistic. i feel they have the advantage of looking really cute and then really terrifying when they become possessed.
@@wild_pumpkin Their innocence and cluelessness makes them adorable for some reason plus we feel bad for them seeing the way humans treat them so they’re sort of an ugly-cute type 😭
@@connorscorner443 me too, i love midnight! it actually freaked my dad out a bit when we watched it together. never actually finding out what the creature was is the best part.
Midnight entity is without a doubt the scariest new who monster. Just that shot of the crystal planet we get, completely uninhabitable... Then the guy says something is moving out there as the shutters close... It's just set up so we'll and executed so perfectly by the performers
It's a shame this Lovecraftian aspect to the extensive Doctor Who mythos never seen more light in the scope of the whole series. I mean, this is literally an exploration of the Christian hell that's done so well and in such a short span of time. Episodes like this were the benchmark for Doctor Who and I just feel as though it was matched so infrequently that there really was a lot of potential lost here
As an eldritch horror myself, this was easily the most enjoyable episode of Who. The real spooky thing though: My ex wife is a dead ringer for Billie Piper, she did some costume work for the show, I used to be a tiler, and my surname is Rose...
Not so much cosmic horror but the scariest episode for me was "The Empty Child", specifically part 1. The only time I've ever had a nightmare because of Doctor Who.
Oh, THANK YOU! No one else I’ve ever talked to was actually scarred by this one. I literally couldn’t take the image of a gas mask from how terrified that episode was and stopped watching for a while because of it.
@@imsquiddly6836 "Except that implies in this big grand scheme of Gods and Devils that she's just a victim. But I've seen a lot of this universe. I've seen fake gods and bad gods and demi-gods and would-be gods, and out of all that, out of that whole pantheon, if I believe in one thing, just one thing, I believe in her."
@@maxrichards3881 Since you just gave a quote but didn't elaborate I'm going have to guess what you're trying to say- It sounds, from my end, like your point is that when 13 says she doesn't believe in Satan, despite having met the OG in person, she means she doesn't recognize the authority or will of the beast. The difference being believing something exists vs having faith in one's capabilities. Do I have that right or am I off?
Another fun detail is that the Beast was voiced by Gabriel Woolf, who voiced Sutekh in 'Pyramids of Mars'. With its vast spans of time, lost civilisations, and a villain casually identifying himself with Satan, it's another great story for cosmic horror in Who.
Out of all things here that could've made a real impact on me... The one that made me stop the video and just laugh hysterically for a solid minute and then reflect upon my own mortality is that moment when Winnie The Pooh's spirit leaves his body and you say 'what comes after'. I'll see myself out. Beautiful video, marvelous exploration.
What if instead of the beast simply stealing the archeologist's body, it SWAPPED minds. Meaning that when the doctor sees the beast, he is actually seeing Toby trapped in the body trapped in the pit
I feel like people forget just how many aspects of cosmic horror the Whoniverse has used over the years. In fact, I wish the show did more with these concepts. The closest we've gotten in NuWho is with this two-parter in the video, and also some of the work that Torchwood has done in s1 and s2, and eventually in Doctor Who s11 and s12 (even though the main cosmic horror in 'It Takes You Away' was cut from the episode at the last second.) Also, when it comes to the Doctor Who EU, there's loads oc cosmic horror stuff that really fits with the lore. In the VNAs, the Doctor literally dances with Death herself on the surface of the moon. And the only reason the Doctor doesn't get hit with the vacuum of space is because Death simply chooses not to take him. Also in some of the later VNAs, they meet biblically accurate angels, and many of the main villains are the Great Old Ones themselves from Lovecraftian lore. In the EDAs (Eighth Doctor Adventures), the Timelords are shown to be incredibly eldritch themselves. One Timelord, I.M. Foreman, literally blinded himself to heighten his psychic abilities. Eventually, they regenerated into an elderly grandmother type of figure. This Granny literally created an entire universe on her own with her powers, and put it in a bottle. Dozens upon dozens of time-faring species surrounded her planet but knew not to attack or do anything because she could wipe them all out by snapping her fingers. Doctor Who has so much deep, eldritch lore and I wish NuWho did more with it because it's really cool and unique for a science fiction franchise.
Also what about Zagreus? The representation of the resentment of every single being that never existed, and who wanted every single universe to all exist at the same time?
@not-OJ-Simpson The book is "Lucifer Rising", by Andy Lane and Jim Mortimore. Just a head's up though, the book takes place in the middle of a larger story arc. It's also one of the few VNAs that has illustrations inside (another I can think of is "All-Consuming Fire", which is also by Andy Lane).
36:00 That exact spacesuit actually becomes _the Doctor's spacesuit._ One of his outfits, to the point that 11 and 12 use it! 20:00 Freeing the Ood was Donna's finest hour. Her _fury_ at the idiot executives who propagated the enslavement, even the Doctor was impressed. "Just save _someone..."_ had a longer reach. But the Ood shall forever be good guys thanks to the DoctorDonna. 48:00 I always thought that the Beast wasn't the only one at work. The cable snapping was _not_ in the Beast's interests, and the TARDIS crashing down right at the Beast's prison... Miracles of light.
I always had a headcanon since it aired that the Beast was able to increase its telepathic reach from the Tardis landing there alone. From the Tardis falling down to the pit on the Beast really starts taking control to break free, yet it never even attempted to do anything prior to the Tardis landing, so I've always thought that the Beast used the Tardis to increase its own powers to escape. Plus the cable snapping off as the Doctor started telling everyone they could beat the beast if they worked together as well as not to listen to it because it's just praying on their fears with its speech about being the Devil seemed more like the Beast was cutting the Doctor off to me, but I love the idea of there being another force at work that's way more interesting!
@@calumbo9315My favorite unanswered question is, "Was the Beast put in it's prison like how Lucifer was sent to Hell, by some kind of benevolent deity? Or was it some kind of über-advanced alien race?"
Honesty, maybe it’s the autism in me but the ood always looked to me as just funny little guys. Like they obviously have scary moments throughout all their appearances but to me they are just goofy guys
I think an easy in universe way to explain the Tardis being at the bottom of the Pit is "the Beast was trying to scare them away from itself - the failsafe to destroy it - and from the Tardis - the only escape option."
For me, the scariest one was when they were in a train and something started to copy the doctor but then the copy happened sooner and sooner until it was happening before what he was saying happened
41:50 think on this one you are a timelord with unlimited (let’s forget that it’s only meant to be 11) regenerations and you die from suffocation only to regenerate and find you are out of oxygen so you die only to regenerate you get my point as hells go he is in one of the more sucky ones I can think of.
The whole "only answering _some_ of the questions" thing seems to be what 73 Yards tried and failed to do. We can believe that, in the Doctor Who universe, it _is_ possible for an alien creature to have existed before time because we don't have anything that can _disprove_ it, but the same can't be said for the old woman in 73 Yards. The end of 73 Yards reveals that the mysterious woman who could teleport, alter people's perception, and terrify trained soldiers into running away with just a few words is _actually_ just a regular old woman, and specifically an elderly Ruby. That then begs the question: how did a normal human gain these abilities, and why? Sure, we can gather that the "magic circle" was responsible for the teleporting and perception filtering, but it doesn't answer how a regular human could think of something to say that's so horrifying that people, without fail, always have the same, targeted reaction. What The Impossible Planet and The Satan Pit does well is give out _just_ enough information to make the horror plausible, but not so _much_ information that the audience gets an idea of what should and should not be possible. An impossibly ancient alien who existed before time and became the inspiration for evil in every religion is something that doesn't need to be explained in-depth because we have nothing to say that it _can't_ exist. A human suddenly gaining superpowers, travelling back in time, and managing to say _just_ the right things to make people have the same calculated response, however, _definitely_ needs explaining because we _know_ that such a thing isn't supposed to be possible.
One of my favorite episodes. I think I like it so much because it's so similar to Event Horizon which is one of my absolute favorite sci-fi horror movies. Any time science fiction is blended with religious themes, it's always super cool. I do think it's referencing God and Satan in the Christian sense, not necessarily as an abstract concept of good and evil like you suggested. But that's what makes it such an interesting concept, especially for the Doctor himself. Confronted by the fact that their could be that all knowing being that created the universe, and that his assumptions of how things came to be aren't necessarily true. Plus we just never even find out what or who the Beast really is, so there's never any real resolution to those difficult questions.
Having the Doctor face a does-not-compute what-the-fuck outside-context-problem is a clever idea, very scary when the tourist trickster scientist doesn't know anything.
When you think about it, Doctor Who is a horror show. I started watching when I was young, and while I loved the Doctor and how cool he was, I was *terrified* of the villains. One of the first things I saw in any show that truly terrified me was that gas mask child during the 9th doctor’s run. Looking back it was a fantastic episode, one where it had one of the best endings, but the thought of being taken over and having your mind replaced only by fear is a horrifying concept. I really should go back and rewatch it, because it’s been years since I last really watched Doctor Who.
I think that The Beast probably wasn't as powerful as it claimed since we know it was trying to scare the crew and The Doctor we can't take anything it says at it's word and instead just judge it by what we can observe it doing which is mostly telepathy and mind control/posession which are things we have seen before and since in Doctor Who. Although perhaps it is more of a Pennywise level entity in which it *needs* you to be scared of it to do anything at all which is why it needed to scare Toby so much before it could possess him.
Wow, how does this video not have more views??? Great video; you did a good job of weaving the narrative of the episode with your analysis of the cosmic horror theme.
The most terrifying moment for me was when Toby saw the his hands and then his face in the mirror with that musical sting, and my heart skipped a beat with genuine terror, from his acting afraid. Imagine if, for some unforseeable reason, writing on a stone appears on your skin, and then your own face? It was mind boggling given the enemies and aliens we know of, and it ties nicely with the new series of DW, with more supernatural opponents instead of highly technological ones.
One thing that really rubs me wrong with this episode is the fact that black holes have a gravity field just like any other massive object in space. Like there's nothing actually impossible or even unusual about something being in a black hole's orbit. And this is information that has very much been publicly available since long before 2006.
Personally, I think this episode is not really scary. What it is, is very bleak and lonely. Very few episodes of DR. Who really manage to project this inconciveble vastness and lonlyness of space and thime. And how otherworldy the fringes of this romp through space and time are. This sinking feeling. It´s a great comic horror, but nor really all that scary. In my books one of the scariest episodes is still Silence in the Library. Blink takes a second place, with the scariest monster. But the Vashta Nerada are really terrifing. And the implication of these things being everywhere. Makes you think on what happened to a good few people who wen´t hiking on the Dr. Who earth and never came back.
I absolutely love this episode, although in some ways I wouldn't call it terrifying for the same reason I wasn't terrified with Blink: Honestly, I was too intrigued to be scared. I also thought that the conversation between The Doctor & Ida Scott worked so well because the whole episode was about pure, intensified hopelessness, and how it transitions to the two of them being left behind by the others in the rocket, and then The Doctor meeting The Beast...... absolutely brilliant way of juggling emotional tones!
Good essay! I agree with absolutely everything you've said, although I would counter the most terrifying enemy with Midnight. Seeing the Doctor helpless was horrifying.
Midnight is probably my favourite it was so close on which I was gonna do a video on so chances are I’ll end up doing a vid on it at some point, because the acting is sooo good and one of the best monsters
I still think the mondasian cybermen in the end of season 10 are the most terrifying monsters. It's quite horrific knowing they're real people who are constantly in agonising pain.
I know this is a bit late lol, but in regards to the Doctor just stumbling across the TARDIS at the end, it could be viewed as lazy writing (and to be fair to them, it was a difficult ending to write a way out of), but I like to view it as "an act of God", reaching out and saving the Doctor. This episode, it's almost fitting to have an inexplicable resolution as the whole theme is about impossibilities. Great video btw - this is my favourite episode ever!
Examining the Ood with the added context of their further appearances really does show that the humans in this episode were attributing their human perceptions of how to live onto the Ood, and that they were definitely in the wrong.
sure roses ship was getting sucked into the black hole anyway but just like the doctor had the faith to take the plunge and and drop the planet rose had faith that the doctor would be there and the beast cant be allowed to escape thus she had to get him off the ship
One of the most memorable doctor who episodes to me, is the one where they visit the human in space who lives all alone, which I personally believe is based of the shortest horror story ever “the last man on earth sat alone in a room… there was a knock on the door”
That one shot that you said reminded you of soldiers waiting for action? I can see it, but my first thought was how people were crammed into trans-atlantic slave ships, actually.
@@waterwaveybaby The biggest thing to me is the implication of how the ood managed to evolve into a race that is dependent on another ordering them around. Were they enslaved for so long to the point that their free will was literally evolved out of them? or are they synthetic creations? the very existence of the ood asks so many fascinating questions
I think the TARDIS being there at the last minute is sort of a "putting your faith in god even for a moment"...moment? Like who would've guessed it would be there the whole time, it just happens to be there when The Doctor needs it.
This will probably be my favorite Dr Who two parter. Its equal parts Event Horizon, Alien, The Doom and Dead Space games and a bit of Evil Dead. Granted not quite as violent as those mentioned franchises (as Who is a family show) but the Eldritch Horror mixed with Biblical Demons is really well done with both of those episodes.
As a teen I never understood why I loved The Impossible Planet so much compared to the other episodes. It was the start of my exploration of Cosmic Horror. Eventually leading to my love of HP lovecraft and leading to dozens of tattoos of his works. I didn't put the pieces together until maybe 10 years later as I'm watching the reruns with my wife. After havibg already gone under the needle for my Cthulu tattoo.
Nah, the episode with the sentient water on mars gave me nightmaresas a kid. This is still scary but that one was HORROR. One drop of water and you're gone. DAMN.
Impossible Planet and Satan’s Pit are pretty good cosmic horror stories. But it’s pretty standard and straightforward satanic conflict. One I found way more terrifying was Midnight since it was clear that The Doctor was never in control of the situation. The only reason that he and everyone else survived was one person seeing through the fear and paranoia, and that after all that we still ended up learning barely anything about this creature that came closer to killing him than most of his foes.
My personal most terrifying episode is Waters of Mars, not even because of the monster but because of the Doctor. He had such terrifying potential in that episode and almost became Time Lord Victorious. Just reminded me so hard lf the Family of Blood episodes where they talked about the Doctor having the potential to be the scariest being in the universe.
For a man who uses a collapsing star to keep the lights on in his Time Machine I find the doctor’s apparent fear of the black hole to be the tiniest bit disingenuous
this was the one doctor who episode my mother refused to let me watch as a little kid haha. when i watched it for the first time aged 12, i was surprised at how scary she found it, because to me it didnt seem bad at all. i think its a difference in how we were raised -- she was raised catholic but really let me do my own thing in terms of religion. so to her the devil is more real in her head, even if she doesnt necessarily believe he exists anymore. and for me hes more of an interesting metaphor/mental shorthand for evil. its interesting to me how different people's backgrounds will cause them to understand stories in completely different ways
haha i remember when they were airing the old dr who episodes on fucking disney XD of all places, they censored the word hell in the welcome to hell scene
My all time favorite doctor who story. I remember having a power outage that laster 18 days right as the Satan pit premiered in Canada, the wait was difficult to say the least.
The dialogue between the Doctor and the Beast is some of my favourite dialogue in the entire show. I was very much hoping that the Beast would return in the last two episodes of the newest season (some voice actor I think) but you can't get everything you want, not knowing much about classic Who I assumed the beast was probably the most powerful entity the Doctor had encountered. Although I think there is some connection between Sutekh and the Beast.
I totally agree about Doctor Who's villains being extraordinary and amazing and a massive part of what makes me love this show so much. But in the end, it's the human factor that makes this show so relatable and, subsequently, lovable and loved for me. The Doctor itself as well as so many of the characters in the show, companions, villains or even secondary characters, there are rarely any shows that delve so deeply into the human condition. FFS, I was just watching the museum scene with Vincent van Gogh for the umptiest time and for the umptiest time, it pulled at my heart strings. I am fighting depression for the biggest part of my life and damn, I find myself in Tony Curran's acting. Just as I find myself in Nine, which is still my most favourite Doctor, although I love Ten and Eleven so dearly. Nine is the post-war Doctor, broken, torn apart and uttely out of balance, who fights to come to term with his past and with what he did. When this show went on air, I had hit rock bottom and had to come to terms with _a lot_ of messed up things that had happened and I could relate so much to this Doctor. And seeing him yell _'Everybody lives, Rose! Just this once, EVERYBODY LIVES!'_ moves me to tears and makes me happy at the same time. So yes, the villains are amazing, but it's how the show explores the human reaction to those villains what makes me love this show so much.
With all your talk of the brilliant HP Lovecraft in this video I did think of some of the similarities between the beast and a particular outer god in the mythos known as Nyarlathotep and what’s so special about him is that he takes joy in the tormented of other beings. While a god like Cthulhu just sees humans as tools to his malevolent plans and not much else Nyar is a greater manipulator than the others and him being able to take any form he wants could be responsible for every religion that our world knows which is similar to what the beast said. And while I definitely don’t think the beast is Nyar as a huge Lovecraft fan I just found the similarities fun to point out. Rant over I enjoyed the vid
Black holes don't suck things in. Gravity has infinite range (just gets weaker as distance increases but never zero). Black holes behave the same way as any other massive object. If you get too close, and cross the event horizon, then you can never re-enter the rest of the universe but there's no sucking involved - just don't cross the event horizon
@@hysterical5408No, being sucked into something requires the thing that is doing the “sucking” needs to have lower pressure density than the area around it, black holes like all massive objects curve space time into its centre of gravity and thus you fall or accelerate into it; no sucking involved
omg! this was a great one wave, what got me into Dr Who was the bald one whos name escapes me, but then Tennant came along nd took the show to a complely different and higher level and every single EP is interesting in some way. Ok, some times he over plays his passion a bit, but come on, if someone out there is critical, about his acting, well you try acting a millennia old, lonely time traveling god whom has seen wonders, but also horrors. I loved the impossible planet:D thanks for this great video brother, Solo, Sweden - anti-fascist, Feminist, socialist, veggie and have fucked up more bullies than you can count using pi, not with skills, with chaos and non-lethal weaps, if you read this, show this last part to some other, friends, hackers, online friends and start enforcing justice in a universe were there is none.
I want them to bring back the weeping angels who terrify me to this day and the peg dolls whose song honestly brought goosebumps to my skin in the first seconds of the episode. These are monsters you need.
Makes you wonder with the new things from Whitaker's era, were the Beast and the Disciples of Light, from the same point in reality as the Solutract, before it was banished and the Universe proper could begin? It would make sense for beings of great power to exist at the time, especially since someone had to banish it, and that could have been the Disciples who then caged the Beast upon seeing what could happen within the new Universe.
The TARDIS showing up at the end like that actually makes perfect sense. You've said many times that this episode had a heavy emphasis on faith, yes? The Doctor's faith was rewarded with the return of the TARDIS.
I can very much recommend watching the second capaldi season. It is much better than the ones before and after it and ends at a point that I for myself considered the end of the show until RTD came back
Yeah I’ve heard really great things about the Capaldi era (like some great monologues and more serious moments) I’m rewatching the show at the moment and nearly there so pretty excited to get to it
This was my first DW episode. Its also fascinating that human curiosity nearly freed the devil yet also lead them to the place needed to keep him there.
very interesting, haven't personallywatched this episode (religiously watched the Matt Smith era instead and could never get over the tennis shoes and trench coat) but cosmic horror in the doctor who universe would be infinitely better than whatever they're coming up with now. Straying away from space and into human history kinda flattened Whittaker's run which is very disappointing
Yeah now that I’m rewatching it it makes me wonder how I never questioned any of their outfits 😂 I usually prefer the space episodes to the history ones because they tend to go back to the same time periods and places a lot
@@waterwaveybaby the space episodes have got to be top tier but the self contained earth ones (Matt Smith's 1st and 2nd episode set solely in a small town) present current day earth as a battle ground for various groups, which is basically brining the space to earth, making them so great Ready for your tier list though! The Doctor should be included on it because he is the villain in so many of others' stories lmao
I felt so sad for the Oods at their last scene :'(( I found them lovely (once we learnt they're not trying to kill Rose/the Doctor) and they're so polite💕
The "before time" thing also makes sense in Christianity. All the angels were created in at once, before God started making the universe. And the War in Heaven happened before the world was created; therefore before time. So yeah, Satan being chained up in hell before time _is_ what happened. As for how much of an actual threat he is... Not at all, really. He is only a threat is you let him be. He only has as much power as you'll give him. Like most bullies, if you actually test him you will see he falls like a house of cards. He talks a big game, but in the end he is just toothless dog barking his lungs out at God, and he only has as many teeth as you give to him.
well considering his son which appeared in torchwood was able to kill people with just his shadow I think this beast is a tad bit more powerful then what religion suggests.
Apparently the TARDIS is sentient. So basically anytime it disappears or the Doctor thinks he's lost it, it's just the ship going "eh, I'll show up when he needs me, I know where to be."
Also Doctor is time sensitive, Tardis is a Time Machine and it kind of makes thematic and gravity sense to be drawn to the heart of the planet.
Yeah in the the EU beteeen time sensitive and complex space time events, they keep on making up new reasons for his plot armor. But I am fine with it because he a freaking time lord, makes sense time would bend to him a little bit.
more like 'I know when to be' amirite lads?
@@Rexotec Based.
It is, basically a Celebi
The scene that really sold me on the Beast's boasts not being empty was seeing the possessed Toby outside, completely exposed to the vacuum of space no worse for ware despite having a fragile human body. It's like the Beast is flexing his ability to defy the rules of the setting
It is no beast of the fields and its powers are great even to defying the vacuum of space.
It actually makes the Beast far more human. One thing in every depiction of an Elder God is they have absolulty nothing they need to prove to us. It is a complete waste of time to "flex" and show off becuase it is so far above us, it does not need our admiration, approval or worship.
Now taking his showing off as proof that while powerful yes, it still comes up short to God Tier. My take is that an ancient Type III Civilization using Science for questionable reasons accidently created the Beast . The Beast just wants to get free and live some small bit of life that it never got to being imprisoned for millions of years. Did it go about it is a bad way. Maybe, however nobody can say how they would feel after a million year sentence until they complete.... a million year sentence.
Trapped on an empty planet, for eterenity, being unable to die, knowing if any creature looks upon it, will panic, and refuse to listen to any explanation. Are the humans really the good guys here?
Technically that's the Mind.
The body is the Beast.
@@nullpoint3346 But it's still the Beast's power that lets it happen, plus that's a very weird and unnecessary distinction.
@@JustapErson The evil creature isn't the Beast, the Beast is the body of the creature after the mind abandoned it, did they not say something along those lines when they found out it was mindless?
its so based that Rose immediately starts trying to unionize the ood once she knows they aren’t trying to kill her
It also fits right in with the other stuff as well in this video because she recognises that the ood can be exploited so worked to protect them from that. And what protects you from exploitation from within your job? A union. It's not only based but works with the themes too. (Granted I don't think a union would have done much with the Beast, but at the very least, it's the thought that counts)
Rose "are they paying you?" Tyler is the best
@@carolinemcgovern4488 lmfao your idea of union is delusional. Unions provide protection lol. Literally mafia and Jimmy Hoffa
Yeah but unions the way they existor flawed, very easily corruptible@@carolinemcgovern4488
Extremely common Rose W
Its a real testament to the incredible art and physical effects team that they managed to make the Ood look so alien and sinister yet also look so kind
Yeah whatever, have you seen the doctor dancing in a skirt?!? Talk about impressive art! clearly the new doctor who is way better
@@NeonValleys What does this comment even mean? Also when did the Doctor even wear a skirt, he wore a kilt but never a skirt. It seems like you are just making up things to be mad about
@@thedukeofcheese6884 lol tell me you didn't watch all the new episodes without telling me. He did wear a skirt and it was fabulous, ur just making stuff up to be mad about sweetheart 😘
@@NeonValleys I think I misinterpreted your comment, I thought you were mad about the skirt. Also are you sure, I thought it was a kilt but if it was a skirt that’s cool too
@@NeonValleys Only Amy Pond wears a skirt. The Doctor wore a kilt. Ncuti Gatwa is the Fifteenth Doctor and it’s a kilt.
You know, I remember from my childhood an episode called "the waters of mars", and it frightened me to no end as a single drop could seal your fate.
I watched this episode a few days ago it’s so great, I still remember the ad for it when it first came out with the doctor saying “just one drop”
@@waterwaveybaby Ok I know this sounds utterly unbelievable but it is true, I swear. For some reason, I don't really remember most of my dreams, if I even have them most nights - I assume I do, but I can still count on my fingers the number of dreams I remembered when I woke up. Another weird thing about my dreams is that all of them seem to be fairly fleshed out stories; they might have strange things happening, but it would all make sense within the world of the dream. Starting with Nine, I began watching Doctor Who I think during the first or second season of Eleven. About 1-2 years before I watched the show, one of my dreams was EXTREMELY similar to "The Waters of Mars":
1. A group of people trapped on a space station
2. An outsider who doesn't belong with and doesn't really like the crew but is there anyway
3. A scientific expedition to try and find signs of past life on the planet
4. The discovery of not only past, but also present, life on the planet
5. That life being some kind of sentient water monster
6. Chases through the space station to try and get away from/ neutralize the entity
7. The crew being picked off one by one dying in horrible ways.
Again, this was at least 2-3 years before I actually saw that episode and when it I started texting with my friend who was caught up on the show in all caps freaking out about it more and more as the episode went on.
@@waterwaveybaby honestly i was more scared of the Doctor in that episode, bro absolutely lost it 💀💀
That fucking terrified me as a kid. Their mouths man...
Ah yes, The Waters Of Mars, shat me up as a 10 year old.
david tennant is a master at facial expressions hes iconic as hell. just as iconic as capaldi’s eyebrows
"is that Your Religion?" Will always be one of the most spin chilling lines ive heard.
He bathers in the black sun is the most metal
The reason I love this episode is because the Beast is as far above the Doctor as the Doctor is above other humans.
The particular line after the Doctor went on about different religions and how the Beast can't be real, "Is that your religion?", followed by the Doctor's silence and sheepish response is fantastic.
Also, he's voiced by Sutekh. That's Gabriel Woolf from Tom Baker's Pyramids of Mars.
While the TARDIS being in the pit looks like an asspull (and honestly I think it probably was) I think that gust of wind that blasts the Doctor into it is interesting. With the episode focusing so heavily on faith and the devil specifically its interesting that despite being named there's no presence of the other, the light. Probably because while Doctor Who can handwave the beast as just a creature they don't want to confirm a literal creator god but I like to think that the TARDIS wasn't in the pit until the Doctor smashed the jars. His faith was rewarded with the way out and that gust of wind was the presence of the other making itself known if only subtly to thank the Doctor for dooming the beast.
That’s a brilliant interpretation
I fully agree. Just the fact that we don't get any answers leaves this episode stuck in the back of my mind.
The horror of never fully understanding what it was, why the language didn't translate, how everything possible pointed towards it being Earth's idea of the devil so far away from Earth? It's mind boggling. Plus introducing the Ood is great.
I never really minded the ending with him finding the tardis cause the episode is based around faith and the impossible so it felt fitting for his lifeline to coincidentally show up exactly when he needed it. So yeah, great video!
Thanks so much! Yeah I think it was the right choice too, no answers they would of came up with would have been as interesting as just wondering about it, I think finding the tardis just happens so quick that I was caught a little off guard but it’s a big story and fitting it all in the time they hard was probably difficult, still my favourite two parter
They did kind of explain why it seemed like the Earth version of the devil, it's the psychic influence, and has touched every culture in the universe.
my favorite episode has got to be the ones with the silence in it, that or the library one. both amazingly terrifying concepts.
I rewatched the Library one the other day and forgot how great it is, made me spooked of my own shadow for a little
@@waterwaveybaby hey who turned out the lights?
Shut up Dr. Moon
Omg I wish they did something more with the silence one of my favorite characters throughout the show
@@themangledwither Are you my mommy?
For me, the darkest would be Donna choosing to die in 'Turn Left', and the voices of the dead begging not to be dissected in 'Dark Waters/Death in Heaven'. Chilling and deeply unsettling.
You mean cremated? Or am I forgetting something
Ponds getting forcibly yanked back in time by Weeping Angels was absolutely FUCKED too
Absolutely destroyed me@@talesofgore9424
"DONT CREMATE ME!"
Personally, Adelaide Brooks suicide is the darkest moment of the show. Truly gritty and bleak
the Ood are one of my favorite aliens. not only do they look amazing and realistic. i feel they have the advantage of looking really cute and then really terrifying when they become possessed.
Good ol pasta-beards
They've got that pug energy
How?! They look like a naked mole rat and cthulu had a kid. (I’m not complaining I love them but like still these things are terrifying)
@@wild_pumpkin Their innocence and cluelessness makes them adorable for some reason plus we feel bad for them seeing the way humans treat them so they’re sort of an ugly-cute type 😭
They’re vaguely Cthulhu-esque
And people often forget the Midnight planet creature
That's one of my all time favourite episodes
@@connorscorner443 me too, i love midnight! it actually freaked my dad out a bit when we watched it together. never actually finding out what the creature was is the best part.
Nobody has forgotten the Midnight entity
one of the only aliens to beat the doctor. he was toast if not for the stewardess
Midnight entity is without a doubt the scariest new who monster. Just that shot of the crystal planet we get, completely uninhabitable... Then the guy says something is moving out there as the shutters close... It's just set up so we'll and executed so perfectly by the performers
I think it's less fear of the 'unknown' and more fear of the 'unknowable'
Ties in brilliantly with a black hole, doesn't it?
Having the light and shade in the helmets making their faces look like skulls is a nice touch.
"Hey, who turned out the lights?!"
It's a shame this Lovecraftian aspect to the extensive Doctor Who mythos never seen more light in the scope of the whole series. I mean, this is literally an exploration of the Christian hell that's done so well and in such a short span of time. Episodes like this were the benchmark for Doctor Who and I just feel as though it was matched so infrequently that there really was a lot of potential lost here
As an eldritch horror myself, this was easily the most enjoyable episode of Who.
The real spooky thing though: My ex wife is a dead ringer for Billie Piper, she did some costume work for the show, I used to be a tiler, and my surname is Rose...
There's definitely some spooky wibbly wobbly time stuff going on there
it’s all connected then
ph oh oh oh
um there wasn’t any mention of noel clarke or barrowman doing horrible shit?
Not so much cosmic horror but the scariest episode for me was "The Empty Child", specifically part 1. The only time I've ever had a nightmare because of Doctor Who.
It was glorious
Oh, THANK YOU! No one else I’ve ever talked to was actually scarred by this one. I literally couldn’t take the image of a gas mask from how terrified that episode was and stopped watching for a while because of it.
'Are you my mummy?' with the gas mask. it's amazing. .
13: I don’t really believe in Satan.
Me: YOU LITERALLY MET SATAN.
And they shoved him in the galactic locker.
Missed the point of the speech, I see.
@@maxrichards3881 How so?
@@imsquiddly6836
"Except that implies in this big grand scheme of Gods and Devils that she's just a victim. But I've seen a lot of this universe. I've seen fake gods and bad gods and demi-gods and would-be gods, and out of all that, out of that whole pantheon, if I believe in one thing, just one thing, I believe in her."
@@maxrichards3881 Since you just gave a quote but didn't elaborate I'm going have to guess what you're trying to say- It sounds, from my end, like your point is that when 13 says she doesn't believe in Satan, despite having met the OG in person, she means she doesn't recognize the authority or will of the beast. The difference being believing something exists vs having faith in one's capabilities. Do I have that right or am I off?
Kind of reminds me of Dead Space with the Marker controlling people and an unknown threat just twisting the minds of people
Oh Damn I hadn’t thought about that, Playing the remake and there are a bunch of similarities
Another fun detail is that the Beast was voiced by Gabriel Woolf, who voiced Sutekh in 'Pyramids of Mars'. With its vast spans of time, lost civilisations, and a villain casually identifying himself with Satan, it's another great story for cosmic horror in Who.
This aged well 👀
I remember watching this the first time like “oh hey haha that’s weird hey WHAT THE FUCK”
Out of all things here that could've made a real impact on me... The one that made me stop the video and just laugh hysterically for a solid minute and then reflect upon my own mortality is that moment when Winnie The Pooh's spirit leaves his body and you say 'what comes after'.
I'll see myself out.
Beautiful video, marvelous exploration.
What if instead of the beast simply stealing the archeologist's body, it SWAPPED minds. Meaning that when the doctor sees the beast, he is actually seeing Toby trapped in the body trapped in the pit
I feel like people forget just how many aspects of cosmic horror the Whoniverse has used over the years. In fact, I wish the show did more with these concepts.
The closest we've gotten in NuWho is with this two-parter in the video, and also some of the work that Torchwood has done in s1 and s2, and eventually in Doctor Who s11 and s12 (even though the main cosmic horror in 'It Takes You Away' was cut from the episode at the last second.)
Also, when it comes to the Doctor Who EU, there's loads oc cosmic horror stuff that really fits with the lore.
In the VNAs, the Doctor literally dances with Death herself on the surface of the moon. And the only reason the Doctor doesn't get hit with the vacuum of space is because Death simply chooses not to take him. Also in some of the later VNAs, they meet biblically accurate angels, and many of the main villains are the Great Old Ones themselves from Lovecraftian lore.
In the EDAs (Eighth Doctor Adventures), the Timelords are shown to be incredibly eldritch themselves. One Timelord, I.M. Foreman, literally blinded himself to heighten his psychic abilities. Eventually, they regenerated into an elderly grandmother type of figure. This Granny literally created an entire universe on her own with her powers, and put it in a bottle. Dozens upon dozens of time-faring species surrounded her planet but knew not to attack or do anything because she could wipe them all out by snapping her fingers.
Doctor Who has so much deep, eldritch lore and I wish NuWho did more with it because it's really cool and unique for a science fiction franchise.
Are you telling me I could have had Cthulhu in Doctor Who? I am so miffed, I need this to happen…maybe the Innsmouth stuff or Dunwich Horror
Also what about Zagreus? The representation of the resentment of every single being that never existed, and who wanted every single universe to all exist at the same time?
Classic Who had some great Cosmic Horror, such as the Great Intelligence, the Gods of Ragnarok, Fenric, the Celestials...
Which story from the VNA had Biblically accurate angels? I'd love to read it.
@not-OJ-Simpson The book is "Lucifer Rising", by Andy Lane and Jim Mortimore. Just a head's up though, the book takes place in the middle of a larger story arc.
It's also one of the few VNAs that has illustrations inside (another I can think of is "All-Consuming Fire", which is also by Andy Lane).
36:00 That exact spacesuit actually becomes _the Doctor's spacesuit._ One of his outfits, to the point that 11 and 12 use it!
20:00 Freeing the Ood was Donna's finest hour. Her _fury_ at the idiot executives who propagated the enslavement, even the Doctor was impressed.
"Just save _someone..."_ had a longer reach. But the Ood shall forever be good guys thanks to the DoctorDonna.
48:00 I always thought that the Beast wasn't the only one at work. The cable snapping was _not_ in the Beast's interests, and the TARDIS crashing down right at the Beast's prison...
Miracles of light.
I always had a headcanon since it aired that the Beast was able to increase its telepathic reach from the Tardis landing there alone. From the Tardis falling down to the pit on the Beast really starts taking control to break free, yet it never even attempted to do anything prior to the Tardis landing, so I've always thought that the Beast used the Tardis to increase its own powers to escape. Plus the cable snapping off as the Doctor started telling everyone they could beat the beast if they worked together as well as not to listen to it because it's just praying on their fears with its speech about being the Devil seemed more like the Beast was cutting the Doctor off to me, but I love the idea of there being another force at work that's way more interesting!
@@calumbo9315My favorite unanswered question is, "Was the Beast put in it's prison like how Lucifer was sent to Hell, by some kind of benevolent deity? Or was it some kind of über-advanced alien race?"
Honesty, maybe it’s the autism in me but the ood always looked to me as just funny little guys. Like they obviously have scary moments throughout all their appearances but to me they are just goofy guys
Dude same
A bunch of goobers
Friend-shaped
I think an easy in universe way to explain the Tardis being at the bottom of the Pit is "the Beast was trying to scare them away from itself - the failsafe to destroy it - and from the Tardis - the only escape option."
For me, the scariest one was when they were in a train and something started to copy the doctor but then the copy happened sooner and sooner until it was happening before what he was saying happened
Midnight
“And I might” Ayo? 🤨
41:50 think on this one you are a timelord with unlimited (let’s forget that it’s only meant to be 11) regenerations and you die from suffocation only to regenerate and find you are out of oxygen so you die only to regenerate you get my point as hells go he is in one of the more sucky ones I can think of.
I really do think that the beast in this episode is actually Satan and God does exist in the doctor who universe
So just to correct the physics here, an object can orbit a black hole just like it can do any object as long as it has enough momentum.
The whole "only answering _some_ of the questions" thing seems to be what 73 Yards tried and failed to do.
We can believe that, in the Doctor Who universe, it _is_ possible for an alien creature to have existed before time because we don't have anything that can _disprove_ it, but the same can't be said for the old woman in 73 Yards.
The end of 73 Yards reveals that the mysterious woman who could teleport, alter people's perception, and terrify trained soldiers into running away with just a few words is _actually_ just a regular old woman, and specifically an elderly Ruby. That then begs the question: how did a normal human gain these abilities, and why? Sure, we can gather that the "magic circle" was responsible for the teleporting and perception filtering, but it doesn't answer how a regular human could think of something to say that's so horrifying that people, without fail, always have the same, targeted reaction.
What The Impossible Planet and The Satan Pit does well is give out _just_ enough information to make the horror plausible, but not so _much_ information that the audience gets an idea of what should and should not be possible.
An impossibly ancient alien who existed before time and became the inspiration for evil in every religion is something that doesn't need to be explained in-depth because we have nothing to say that it _can't_ exist. A human suddenly gaining superpowers, travelling back in time, and managing to say _just_ the right things to make people have the same calculated response, however, _definitely_ needs explaining because we _know_ that such a thing isn't supposed to be possible.
This whole season was the absolute height of Who
I disagree. For me, the height of Doctor Who belongs to Capaldi's best scenes and episodes.
One of my favorite episodes. I think I like it so much because it's so similar to Event Horizon which is one of my absolute favorite sci-fi horror movies. Any time science fiction is blended with religious themes, it's always super cool. I do think it's referencing God and Satan in the Christian sense, not necessarily as an abstract concept of good and evil like you suggested. But that's what makes it such an interesting concept, especially for the Doctor himself. Confronted by the fact that their could be that all knowing being that created the universe, and that his assumptions of how things came to be aren't necessarily true. Plus we just never even find out what or who the Beast really is, so there's never any real resolution to those difficult questions.
Having the Doctor face a does-not-compute what-the-fuck outside-context-problem is a clever idea, very scary when the tourist trickster scientist doesn't know anything.
When you think about it, Doctor Who is a horror show. I started watching when I was young, and while I loved the Doctor and how cool he was, I was *terrified* of the villains. One of the first things I saw in any show that truly terrified me was that gas mask child during the 9th doctor’s run. Looking back it was a fantastic episode, one where it had one of the best endings, but the thought of being taken over and having your mind replaced only by fear is a horrifying concept.
I really should go back and rewatch it, because it’s been years since I last really watched Doctor Who.
Your vids are so entertaining, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve rewatched all of them so I’m so excited to get to watch this one now 😮💨
Thank you so much! Had so much fun making this one, it means a lot
I think that The Beast probably wasn't as powerful as it claimed since we know it was trying to scare the crew and The Doctor we can't take anything it says at it's word and instead just judge it by what we can observe it doing which is mostly telepathy and mind control/posession which are things we have seen before and since in Doctor Who. Although perhaps it is more of a Pennywise level entity in which it *needs* you to be scared of it to do anything at all which is why it needed to scare Toby so much before it could possess him.
Wow, how does this video not have more views??? Great video; you did a good job of weaving the narrative of the episode with your analysis of the cosmic horror theme.
The most terrifying moment for me was when Toby saw the his hands and then his face in the mirror with that musical sting, and my heart skipped a beat with genuine terror, from his acting afraid.
Imagine if, for some unforseeable reason, writing on a stone appears on your skin, and then your own face? It was mind boggling given the enemies and aliens we know of, and it ties nicely with the new series of DW, with more supernatural opponents instead of highly technological ones.
One thing that really rubs me wrong with this episode is the fact that black holes have a gravity field just like any other massive object in space. Like there's nothing actually impossible or even unusual about something being in a black hole's orbit. And this is information that has very much been publicly available since long before 2006.
Personally, I think this episode is not really scary. What it is, is very bleak and lonely. Very few episodes of DR. Who really manage to project this inconciveble vastness and lonlyness of space and thime. And how otherworldy the fringes of this romp through space and time are. This sinking feeling. It´s a great comic horror, but nor really all that scary. In my books one of the scariest episodes is still Silence in the Library. Blink takes a second place, with the scariest monster. But the Vashta Nerada are really terrifing. And the implication of these things being everywhere. Makes you think on what happened to a good few people who wen´t hiking on the Dr. Who earth and never came back.
I absolutely love this episode, although in some ways I wouldn't call it terrifying for the same reason I wasn't terrified with Blink: Honestly, I was too intrigued to be scared.
I also thought that the conversation between The Doctor & Ida Scott worked so well because the whole episode was about pure, intensified hopelessness, and how it transitions to the two of them being left behind by the others in the rocket, and then The Doctor meeting The Beast...... absolutely brilliant way of juggling emotional tones!
Good essay! I agree with absolutely everything you've said, although I would counter the most terrifying enemy with Midnight. Seeing the Doctor helpless was horrifying.
As a doctor who fan i can confirm that bon a cafa latta is the best part about the show
One of my favourite episodes has to be "Midnight" I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
Midnight is probably my favourite it was so close on which I was gonna do a video on so chances are I’ll end up doing a vid on it at some point, because the acting is sooo good and one of the best monsters
Is that video ever coming out?
I still think the mondasian cybermen in the end of season 10 are the most terrifying monsters. It's quite horrific knowing they're real people who are constantly in agonising pain.
i'm not gunna sit here and let you tell me that the Slaveen count as being good prostetics.
That entity reaches Earth in Torchwood and is impossibly huge.
No, that's Abbadon the Son of the Beast
I know this is a bit late lol, but in regards to the Doctor just stumbling across the TARDIS at the end, it could be viewed as lazy writing (and to be fair to them, it was a difficult ending to write a way out of), but I like to view it as "an act of God", reaching out and saving the Doctor. This episode, it's almost fitting to have an inexplicable resolution as the whole theme is about impossibilities. Great video btw - this is my favourite episode ever!
I watched this when you had 66.6k subs, very fitting
Examining the Ood with the added context of their further appearances really does show that the humans in this episode were attributing their human perceptions of how to live onto the Ood, and that they were definitely in the wrong.
sure roses ship was getting sucked into the black hole anyway but just like the doctor had the faith to take the plunge and and drop the planet rose had faith that the doctor would be there and the beast cant be allowed to escape thus she had to get him off the ship
David Tennant was peak Doctor Who. Can't convince me otherwise.
One of the most memorable doctor who episodes to me, is the one where they visit the human in space who lives all alone, which I personally believe is based of the shortest horror story ever “the last man on earth sat alone in a room… there was a knock on the door”
That one shot that you said reminded you of soldiers waiting for action? I can see it, but my first thought was how people were crammed into trans-atlantic slave ships, actually.
That's a really good comparison, and fits more with them being intended to be a slave race rather than a soldier race
@@waterwaveybaby The biggest thing to me is the implication of how the ood managed to evolve into a race that is dependent on another ordering them around. Were they enslaved for so long to the point that their free will was literally evolved out of them? or are they synthetic creations? the very existence of the ood asks so many fascinating questions
They are literally sitting just like the soldiers, why would you think of a slave ship?
I think the TARDIS being there at the last minute is sort of a "putting your faith in god even for a moment"...moment?
Like who would've guessed it would be there the whole time, it just happens to be there when The Doctor needs it.
This will probably be my favorite Dr Who two parter. Its equal parts Event Horizon, Alien, The Doom and Dead Space games and a bit of Evil Dead. Granted not quite as violent as those mentioned franchises (as Who is a family show) but the Eldritch Horror mixed with Biblical Demons is really well done with both of those episodes.
As a teen I never understood why I loved The Impossible Planet so much compared to the other episodes.
It was the start of my exploration of Cosmic Horror. Eventually leading to my love of HP lovecraft and leading to dozens of tattoos of his works.
I didn't put the pieces together until maybe 10 years later as I'm watching the reruns with my wife. After havibg already gone under the needle for my Cthulu tattoo.
Nah, the episode with the sentient water on mars gave me nightmaresas a kid. This is still scary but that one was HORROR. One drop of water and you're gone. DAMN.
Nah you're both wrong. The true biggest horror will always be the gas mask zombies
I'd like to point out that a censored version of this episode was shown on the Disney channel, which is fucking hilarious.
Impossible Planet and Satan’s Pit are pretty good cosmic horror stories. But it’s pretty standard and straightforward satanic conflict. One I found way more terrifying was Midnight since it was clear that The Doctor was never in control of the situation. The only reason that he and everyone else survived was one person seeing through the fear and paranoia, and that after all that we still ended up learning barely anything about this creature that came closer to killing him than most of his foes.
Midnight was by far the most disconcerting episode of Doctor Who. Not merely scary but utterly unnerving.
objectively wrong: Bannakaffalatta is the earths greatest creation
I’d die for the spiky boi
@@waterwaveybaby Bannakaffalatta is love, Bannakaffalatta is life, I love you Bannakaffalatta
@@WoofInationLIVEhow is that translated 😂
Give your soul, give your life, give your love and your life to Bannakaffalatta
Sorry for your loss mate. Doctor Who meant alot to me to.
I loved this show when I was a kid. This was a great episode. Fantastic video essay
This is my favorite two-parter in the series! The music and athmosphere is soo singular and unique and moody, and... heavy?
My personal most terrifying episode is Waters of Mars, not even because of the monster but because of the Doctor. He had such terrifying potential in that episode and almost became Time Lord Victorious. Just reminded me so hard lf the Family of Blood episodes where they talked about the Doctor having the potential to be the scariest being in the universe.
Im glad someone mentioned this episode it was my favourite
For a man who uses a collapsing star to keep the lights on in his Time Machine I find the doctor’s apparent fear of the black hole to be the tiniest bit disingenuous
Awesome video, would love to see more Doctor Who on your channel
This two-parter, The Empty Child, and Blink are my go-tos for introducing people to Doctor Who. Amazing episodes.
this was the one doctor who episode my mother refused to let me watch as a little kid haha. when i watched it for the first time aged 12, i was surprised at how scary she found it, because to me it didnt seem bad at all. i think its a difference in how we were raised -- she was raised catholic but really let me do my own thing in terms of religion. so to her the devil is more real in her head, even if she doesnt necessarily believe he exists anymore. and for me hes more of an interesting metaphor/mental shorthand for evil. its interesting to me how different people's backgrounds will cause them to understand stories in completely different ways
haha i remember when they were airing the old dr who episodes on fucking disney XD of all places, they censored the word hell in the welcome to hell scene
What did they do to censor it?
My all time favorite doctor who story. I remember having a power outage that laster 18 days right as the Satan pit premiered in Canada, the wait was difficult to say the least.
15:10 definitely. We can be stubborn even if we know it won’t be good in the end
The dialogue between the Doctor and the Beast is some of my favourite dialogue in the entire show. I was very much hoping that the Beast would return in the last two episodes of the newest season (some voice actor I think) but you can't get everything you want, not knowing much about classic Who I assumed the beast was probably the most powerful entity the Doctor had encountered. Although I think there is some connection between Sutekh and the Beast.
I totally agree about Doctor Who's villains being extraordinary and amazing and a massive part of what makes me love this show so much. But in the end, it's the human factor that makes this show so relatable and, subsequently, lovable and loved for me.
The Doctor itself as well as so many of the characters in the show, companions, villains or even secondary characters, there are rarely any shows that delve so deeply into the human condition. FFS, I was just watching the museum scene with Vincent van Gogh for the umptiest time and for the umptiest time, it pulled at my heart strings. I am fighting depression for the biggest part of my life and damn, I find myself in Tony Curran's acting.
Just as I find myself in Nine, which is still my most favourite Doctor, although I love Ten and Eleven so dearly. Nine is the post-war Doctor, broken, torn apart and uttely out of balance, who fights to come to term with his past and with what he did. When this show went on air, I had hit rock bottom and had to come to terms with _a lot_ of messed up things that had happened and I could relate so much to this Doctor. And seeing him yell _'Everybody lives, Rose! Just this once, EVERYBODY LIVES!'_ moves me to tears and makes me happy at the same time.
So yes, the villains are amazing, but it's how the show explores the human reaction to those villains what makes me love this show so much.
The most horrific story in Dr. Who for me has to be Inferno from the Jon Pertwee era. Better than any of the new-who stories.
I am SO exited for the 10th doctor to be back again. It just has to be good
Such an underrated two parter. It’s absolutely amazing
With all your talk of the brilliant HP Lovecraft in this video I did think of some of the similarities between the beast and a particular outer god in the mythos known as Nyarlathotep and what’s so special about him is that he takes joy in the tormented of other beings. While a god like Cthulhu just sees humans as tools to his malevolent plans and not much else Nyar is a greater manipulator than the others and him being able to take any form he wants could be responsible for every religion that our world knows which is similar to what the beast said. And while I definitely don’t think the beast is Nyar as a huge Lovecraft fan I just found the similarities fun to point out. Rant over I enjoyed the vid
Black holes don't suck things in. Gravity has infinite range (just gets weaker as distance increases but never zero). Black holes behave the same way as any other massive object.
If you get too close, and cross the event horizon, then you can never re-enter the rest of the universe but there's no sucking involved - just don't cross the event horizon
This is such an unnecessarily pedantic correction 🤓
So it sucks things in.
You did not need to be so long-winded about it just saying the same thing twice.
@@hysterical5408No, being sucked into something requires the thing that is doing the “sucking” needs to have lower pressure density than the area around it, black holes like all massive objects curve space time into its centre of gravity and thus you fall or accelerate into it; no sucking involved
"No sucking involved"
That's what she said
omg! this was a great one wave, what got me into Dr Who was the bald one whos name escapes me, but then Tennant came along nd took the show to a complely different and higher level and every single EP is interesting in some way. Ok, some times he over plays his passion a bit, but come on, if someone out there is critical, about his acting, well you try acting a millennia old, lonely time traveling god whom has seen wonders, but also horrors.
I loved the impossible planet:D
thanks for this great video brother,
Solo,
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Christopher Eccleston, the 9th Doctor
great episodes - fallen out of love with the show past few years but regularly gone back and watched this over
Drumandbassfarmer xD that's sick
I want them to bring back the weeping angels who terrify me to this day and the peg dolls whose song honestly brought goosebumps to my skin in the first seconds of the episode. These are monsters you need.
Must've been a kick in the nuts to see the show fall as low as it has today.
Makes you wonder with the new things from Whitaker's era, were the Beast and the Disciples of Light, from the same point in reality as the Solutract, before it was banished and the Universe proper could begin? It would make sense for beings of great power to exist at the time, especially since someone had to banish it, and that could have been the Disciples who then caged the Beast upon seeing what could happen within the new Universe.
one hell of an episode, always
The TARDIS showing up at the end like that actually makes perfect sense. You've said many times that this episode had a heavy emphasis on faith, yes? The Doctor's faith was rewarded with the return of the TARDIS.
I can very much recommend watching the second capaldi season. It is much better than the ones before and after it and ends at a point that I for myself considered the end of the show until RTD came back
Yeah I’ve heard really great things about the Capaldi era (like some great monologues and more serious moments) I’m rewatching the show at the moment and nearly there so pretty excited to get to it
This was my first DW episode.
Its also fascinating that human curiosity nearly freed the devil yet also lead them to the place needed to keep him there.
My favourite is the one in the hotel, with the minotr. But this is a very good one as well
i don't know the ep where the robots repair the ship by using human body parts was also mess up .
Girl in the Fireplace?
25:21 the archeologist with red-eye and hellish symbols all over his face was so spectacular
very interesting, haven't personallywatched this episode (religiously watched the Matt Smith era instead and could never get over the tennis shoes and trench coat) but cosmic horror in the doctor who universe would be infinitely better than whatever they're coming up with now. Straying away from space and into human history kinda flattened Whittaker's run which is very disappointing
Yeah now that I’m rewatching it it makes me wonder how I never questioned any of their outfits 😂 I usually prefer the space episodes to the history ones because they tend to go back to the same time periods and places a lot
@@waterwaveybaby the space episodes have got to be top tier but the self contained earth ones (Matt Smith's 1st and 2nd episode set solely in a small town) present current day earth as a battle ground for various groups, which is basically brining the space to earth, making them so great
Ready for your tier list though! The Doctor should be included on it because he is the villain in so many of others' stories lmao
I felt so sad for the Oods at their last scene :'(( I found them lovely (once we learnt they're not trying to kill Rose/the Doctor) and they're so polite💕
Haven't finished this video yet, but yes Bannakaffalatta is in fact what makes doctor who great.
The "before time" thing also makes sense in Christianity. All the angels were created in at once, before God started making the universe. And the War in Heaven happened before the world was created; therefore before time. So yeah, Satan being chained up in hell before time _is_ what happened.
As for how much of an actual threat he is... Not at all, really. He is only a threat is you let him be. He only has as much power as you'll give him. Like most bullies, if you actually test him you will see he falls like a house of cards. He talks a big game, but in the end he is just toothless dog barking his lungs out at God, and he only has as many teeth as you give to him.
well considering his son which appeared in torchwood was able to kill people with just his shadow I think this beast is a tad bit more powerful then what religion suggests.