Good stuff, guys! I'm curious though. What does this mod (and your clutch kits) do to the warranty. As someone who has had a major $1800 repair covered by warranty in the first 25 hours of use on my 21 Cforce 800, and who bought the 4 additional years of warranty (glad I did), this is a huge concern for me. I've seen several people ask in this video and others. Will you please say something on the issue. Does your silence on the issue mean warranty will be void? Thanks for any input.
I'm still concerned / curious how you deal with the difference in elevation? Example I'm in Alberta Canada at 855 M and you're at 156 M above sea level. The density of the air is different so the air/fuel mixture I would assume would be different. I could be wrong which is why Im asking. I remember back with 2-strokes and jetting you would have to re jet when riding in the mountains vs at home for best outcome.
The tune sounds like a beast! I was wondering if it would increase the top speed as well? Currently with me and my wife on the unit (Cforce 800xc 2022) we can hit around 65. Do you think we could possible push close to 70s at cooler temps. I don’t plan to maintain that speed long just in case we needed to for a brief moment.
What are the dememsions differences with the elbow? Would be nice to see the #s with the stock elbow. If the inlet and outlet diameters are the same as stock how does it make a diff? Just curious. New to this.
Good question and I wish I would have showed the major difference.. its inside the intake pipe.. the stock one is a 90 degree sharp angle on the inside (outside the stock one looks to be a swooping 90 degree fitting.. but its not) the stock one causes air turbulence because it's not a smooth 90 degree inlet like this after market one is. If you will reach into your stock one you will see what I'm talking about.
If they went too deep and water came in through the outlet on the cvt then there is nothing you can do about that. It's in the same location as a canam or a polaris and they would do the same thing at that depth.
@@RealTalkPowersports it wasn't that deep. I had a brute force 750 my other friends had a polaris xp 1000 and a can am 570. None of us had a issue. Just the cforce and zforce. We just looking to see if we could fix the problem.
what do I have to do to get mine tuned...I am in the market for the 800 after april...I should have 4 k down then..financed the rest but wanted to get it tuned...
So Cfmoto is really over estimating the HP on the stock machine. They have it listed at: MAX POWER OUTPUT: 62 HP @ 7250 RPM and maximum torque of 53 FT. LBS. @ 6250 RPM.
sounds like that would be a bad idea too me what if you got dirt or dust in ur airbox which would make its way into the engine if you made holes like that
I doubt if that motor is putting out 633 ft lbs of torque, you must have meant 63.3 ft lbs. The 2022 mustang gt is putting out 460 hp and 410 ft lbs of torque.
Mark I have yet to hear about or see a MSC Tune void anyones warranty. Besides how would anyone know that there is a tune in it if you brought your atv in for warranty on the 4wd actuator or something similar..
CFMoto brochures rate the engine at 62hp, but the dyno shows 46hp stock. That *IS NOT* 594 ft-lb of torque! I do not see a v-8 engine stuffed into the frame. The correct terminology is LB-FT. That must be Newton Meters of torque or INCH pounds of torque.
All Manufacturers rate their Horse power ratings using a Crank Dyno to see what to motor produces at the crank shaft before it’s hooked to any driveline (transmission, CVT, drive shafts, differentials, axels, wheels and tires) .. all of those absorb horsepower as it takes power to turn all of that and make the atv, SxS, truck or car to move. So what you feel and I feel when we push the throttle is not what is produced at the crank but what is applied to the Ground.. that is why we as well as many other tuners and performance parts manufacturers use dynos that measure Horsepower at the wheels. So this number is what you actually feel, and that is what we use to measure performance enhancing mods.. we get a baseline stock run and then compare to runs after certain mods to measure actual performance increases. 👍
@@RealTalkPowersports I am corrected, I forgot about "crank hp" vs "wheel hp". That would be a good reminder tip at the beginning of videos. From what I can tell with a conversion calculator, the torque numbers shown on the screen must be lb-inch, not lb-ft.
@@J_Calvin_Hobbes It’s a mathematical formula (calculation) that is used to measure Dyno Torque.. I have explained it in the first Introduction of our Dyno in older videos. It takes forever to explain to people because it’s not what people are use to seeing so I can’t take up 5 mins per Dyno video explaining it every time. What matters is that we get a stock run with that calculation and then make the performance changes and compare the Numbers. It’s a great tool that was introduced to us and taught in person by Mark Dobeck. The owner of Dobeck Performance who also is the original creator of the Dyno Jet Dyno. Dyno Torque is a measurement that he highly recommended we use to have very accurate data to use to fine tune all of the CVT driven machines and performance tuning. So we trust the professionals and use that measurement and not focus on the “Engine Torque” numbers.
@@RealTalkPowersports In the video, at 3:10 the commentator said 594 ft-lb of torque. That is more than a stock gen II 426 hemi on engine stand, skip to 2:20: ruclips.net/video/7xsdCHiJKgQ/видео.html I do appreciate your videos, yet it is important to use the correct terminology.
I love it when you do the drag racing part on the videos, it's so cool to see!
Omg I cant wait for cforce 1000 tune!! You guys rock!!
Обкатка прошла просто замечательно👍
Где бы нам в России найти такую трубку взамен стоковой?)
they dont care:))
That grey is 🔥
Yes it looks great
Waiting on the 1000 tune!
Awesome tune by msc.
❤ wow what a sound
Blake we need a coolant flush video on the cforce 800xc
We need 1000 tune please msc!!!!!🤟🤟🤟🤟
How many hp do you think it will gain with exhaust, tune and stg 2 clutch?
Good stuff, guys! I'm curious though. What does this mod (and your clutch kits) do to the warranty. As someone who has had a major $1800 repair covered by warranty in the first 25 hours of use on my 21 Cforce 800, and who bought the 4 additional years of warranty (glad I did), this is a huge concern for me. I've seen several people ask in this video and others. Will you please say something on the issue. Does your silence on the issue mean warranty will be void? Thanks for any input.
Curious as to what repairs did your bike need and how has it been holding up since the repairs?
Great video, will this void your warranty.
I'm still concerned / curious how you deal with the difference in elevation? Example I'm in Alberta Canada at 855 M and you're at 156 M above sea level. The density of the air is different so the air/fuel mixture I would assume would be different. I could be wrong which is why Im asking. I remember back with 2-strokes and jetting you would have to re jet when riding in the mountains vs at home for best outcome.
Great video 👍🏾
The tune sounds like a beast! I was wondering if it would increase the top speed as well? Currently with me and my wife on the unit (Cforce 800xc 2022) we can hit around 65. Do you think we could possible push close to 70s at cooler temps. I don’t plan to maintain that speed long just in case we needed to for a brief moment.
My 22 800 hit 72 stock.
Yes we got up to 4 MPH more on the top end with our test unit.
Do a pull with the stock exhaust tip removed
Men ! The exhaust on the 1000 please show me what you did , i want it !!!!
Dual exhaust by RJWC. Plug and play. Billet aluminum machined and stainless steel. 1000$
What are the dememsions differences with the elbow? Would be nice to see the #s with the stock elbow. If the inlet and outlet diameters are the same as stock how does it make a diff? Just curious. New to this.
Good question and I wish I would have showed the major difference.. its inside the intake pipe.. the stock one is a 90 degree sharp angle on the inside (outside the stock one looks to be a swooping 90 degree fitting.. but its not) the stock one causes air turbulence because it's not a smooth 90 degree inlet like this after market one is. If you will reach into your stock one you will see what I'm talking about.
@@RealTalkPowersports gotcha that makes more sense. I don't have one yet... Ordered, but just waiting for it to arrive. 🤘
Saw that dual exhaust on the 1000. Thought we wouldn't notice? 😉
Awesome
Is there a tune for 2019 cforce 600
Can you tune a 2016 CForce 800?
Hello. You can buy the firmware file separately from you? I can flash my block myself.
Hi, I would like to get one intake tube! Where I can find it? Please help
🤘
Hello bro, what diameter is the tube? Thank you ♥️🙏🏻
What is the cost of the tune? I couldn't find anything on the MSC web site.
Wonder what a BF750 makes on this same dyno.
Appreciate all the R&D you guys are doing. I’d really like to see some exhaust temp improvements. I think it would make a great selling point.
The tune help improve the exhaust temps and then adding a RJWC exhaust will slow it to breathe better
Where’s the 500 ecu tune
How would I get this tune for my bike?
Nvm I finished watching the video haha
Went riding with 2 brand new cf motos. Both had belt boxes that leaked water and belts slipping after crossing a creek. Any fixes for this?
If they went too deep and water came in through the outlet on the cvt then there is nothing you can do about that. It's in the same location as a canam or a polaris and they would do the same thing at that depth.
@@RealTalkPowersports it wasn't that deep. I had a brute force 750 my other friends had a polaris xp 1000 and a can am 570. None of us had a issue. Just the cforce and zforce. We just looking to see if we could fix the problem.
What is the part number
what do I have to do to get mine tuned...I am in the market for the 800 after april...I should have 4 k down then..financed the rest but wanted to get it tuned...
wait to put overland on dyno
So Cfmoto is really over estimating the HP on the stock machine. They have it listed at:
MAX POWER OUTPUT: 62 HP @ 7250 RPM and maximum torque of 53 FT. LBS. @ 6250 RPM.
MSc is showing hp at the wheels cf is giving you it at the crank always a difference!! All machines are lower at the wheels.
Would it suck more air in for added hp and cooling if you where to put a couple ported holes in the plastic cap that fits over the filter 🤔
sounds like that would be a bad idea too me what if you got dirt or dust in ur airbox which would make its way into the engine if you made holes like that
Where can I buy the tune ?
Mainstreetcycle.com
www.mainstreetcycle.com/shopping/item/572/cforce-800xc-ecu-tune
Can u also out the link for the intake. Thanks
Bought time lol
Haha
I doubt if that motor is putting out 633 ft lbs of torque, you must have meant 63.3 ft lbs. The 2022 mustang gt is putting out 460 hp and 410 ft lbs of torque.
This is dyno torque.. it’s a different figure than regular Torque..
wiil this void factory warranty
Mark I have yet to hear about or see a MSC Tune void anyones warranty.
Besides how would anyone know that there is a tune in it if you brought your atv in for warranty on the 4wd actuator or something similar..
CFMoto brochures rate the engine at 62hp, but the dyno shows 46hp stock. That *IS NOT* 594 ft-lb of torque! I do not see a v-8 engine stuffed into the frame. The correct terminology is LB-FT. That must be Newton Meters of torque or INCH pounds of torque.
All Manufacturers rate their Horse power ratings using a Crank Dyno to see what to motor produces at the crank shaft before it’s hooked to any driveline (transmission, CVT, drive shafts, differentials, axels, wheels and tires) .. all of those absorb horsepower as it takes power to turn all of that and make the atv, SxS, truck or car to move.
So what you feel and I feel when we push the throttle is not what is produced at the crank but what is applied to the Ground..
that is why we as well as many other tuners and performance parts manufacturers use dynos that measure Horsepower at the wheels.
So this number is what you actually feel, and that is what we use to measure performance enhancing mods.. we get a baseline stock run and then compare to runs after certain mods to measure actual performance increases. 👍
@@RealTalkPowersports I am corrected, I forgot about "crank hp" vs "wheel hp". That would be a good reminder tip at the beginning of videos. From what I can tell with a conversion calculator, the torque numbers shown on the screen must be lb-inch, not lb-ft.
@@J_Calvin_Hobbes It’s a mathematical formula (calculation) that is used to measure Dyno Torque.. I have explained it in the first Introduction of our Dyno in older videos.
It takes forever to explain to people because it’s not what people are use to seeing so I can’t take up 5 mins per Dyno video explaining it every time.
What matters is that we get a stock run with that calculation and then make the performance changes and compare the Numbers.
It’s a great tool that was introduced to us and taught in person by Mark Dobeck. The owner of Dobeck Performance who also is the original creator of the Dyno Jet Dyno.
Dyno Torque is a measurement that he highly recommended we use to have very accurate data to use to fine tune all of the CVT driven machines and performance tuning.
So we trust the professionals and use that measurement and not focus on the “Engine Torque” numbers.
@@RealTalkPowersports In the video, at 3:10 the commentator said 594 ft-lb of torque. That is more than a stock gen II 426 hemi on engine stand, skip to 2:20: ruclips.net/video/7xsdCHiJKgQ/видео.html I do appreciate your videos, yet it is important to use the correct terminology.