I was wanting to ask Joel if he can come up with some kind of mechanism even if it’s manual, don’t have to be electric to have like a stock system on the exhaust where it’s quiet and also have a system where you can open it up if you wanna run hard one side would have to happen open and close valve as the other. If you understand what I’m talking about I’ve seen it done on cars.
Just watched this again on the tv with the surround sound. Man, Blake...it sounds awesome! My seven year old came out and even commented how good it sounded. Just ordered the RJWC exhaust from your site for the uforce 1000xl. Can't wait for the MSC headers to come out for it!..Those gains are so impressive! Keep the content coming love the videos!
Great video! No one else is doing these upgrades and producing such informative videos. Blake, you really know how to do it. I have learned so much about the CFMoto vehicles in the last few months. And 10 to 20 percent gains in HP from a four stroke is amazing. Also, the build quality on this 800XC is fantastic. It's better than the new Polaris I looked at the other day and equals the best out there. That goes for the MSC upgrade parts too. 10/10
Awesome, there's a 800. Havent seen anything done with one in awhile. Glad to see u guys always creating new topics and add ons for these machines. Thanks guys.
That is totally Impressive!! Only thing is with the exhaust being changed it will be a lot louder for the average trail riding but that deep rumble sounds amazing!! You guys always knock it out of the park!!
@@RealTalkPowersports how about the MSc header on a stock muffler with a whiskey bent tip or similar, with dyno and tune for that. This is impressive but loud is a no go for many of us.
Need a MSC in NZ and more CFMOTO owners I've tried to put forward Abita of publicity in exchange for a 'loan' bike so I can vlog my reactions, rides, mods and so much more I guess I'll have to wait until I can finally purchase me a overland. Awesome content, love the videos I'm a huge quad enthusiasts so I watch the CFORCE videos religiously.
@@RealTalkPowersports those gains are massive!!! That is incredible to get that much HP, and torque from just the header swap, and a new tune. I noticed that the AF is around 14 on WOT, Does Joel know how much more fuel you could add before the stock injectors max out? When I tuned My mustang I was shooting for 12.6 is on WOT. Love what you guys are doing, and it's awesome that you all are tackling the performance side of the machines as well. The fitment on the MSC headers looks very good too. Great job on building them!
If I want some few more horsepower, I rather buy a larger ATV . I see people even selling expensive ECU only to get removed speed limiter. Took me exactly 4 minutes to remove 1 single wire, and people buy expensive ECU only to remove speed limiter!? Worst thing, people buying it. Turbo kit for cforce would be fun, that's going to improve 😊 It's definitely possible, saw a video from Finland, with turbo. Definitely horsepower for the money 👍
I see comments about you eventually making new cams for these machines. Are you also going to eventually get into doing porting & polishing heads? That would add some extra ponies. Possibly do some head shaving for more compression. :)
Only thing we had to do was create a new Tune for the Header change and WOW!! But certainly no issues.. with the new Header tune the AFRs are in perfect safe operation.
We can ship it to you and you bring it to your dealer and ask them to install it for you. You can text (662) 438-6407 if you need assistance with order or more questions
hey man i like the gains, is there anything else you guys do to make even more power out of these engines? looking at getting the zforce 950 in AUS and wondering if we can get a good bump up off the 85hp they come with?
I hate to tell you, but even the can am 1000 atv models you will see at least a 20% drivetrain loss to the wheels in power. 20-25% is the general rule. This is speaking on the (100% stock). Once you start adding mods that can change the results obviously.
Sure looks like the biggest restrictions on these CForces is the header pipes. I'm thinking the 600 could see some nice gains getting rid of the cat in head pipe as well.
@@ec16445 Not sure how much of a power increase it will be in the 600, but there should be a gain plus the exhaust temp should be way down getting rid of the cat in the header.
They try their damnedest to stop people from modifying their exhausts here in NY as well. But people don't give a crap what the money thieving politicians say. So they do it anyway. There's no public trails here so any trails there happens to be are all owned by someone and they usually don't care if your machine is loud as long as you're not destroying anything. The same goes for it being your own land. They can't do anything about it regardless how much they dislike it. :)
@@Slane583 that’s how it should be but here in NH there starting to kick people out of places an making it harder an harder to ride unless you own land maybe one day things will get better for us riders
@@nickoli62 Indeed, there's not really many places to ride around here either unless you own some land. People who have been willing to let riders go on their trails are slowly blocking them off because of idiots going around vandalizing things. I'm fortunate enough to have my grandfathers hunting camp that links up to a dirt service road owned by the agricultural institute in the area. There are also other trails branching from it that are owned by a large maple farm which don't seem to mind us being on them. Our only issue is that's really the only place for us to ride and riding the same trails gets boring so we don't go anymore.
If youre looking at a 800 and spending all this extra cash to get more HP why not just buy the 1000cc ATV to begin with? Its got more HP still and $1000 more than a 800. Which all these upgrades cost more than $1000. Id think you want to start out with the most HP you can get stock instead of saving $1000 then dumping $1000's more in it. Also still less HP than the 79hp of the 1000. 62 vs 79 on web.
Lol, you cant run around any neighbors with that. I live in an area where people have 2 or more acres, dirt roads and trails everywhere. Thats amazing the power but no way in hell would I drive something that damn loud. If you can come up with a baffle of some kind even if you lose some of that power then you would probably sell a bunch more
Tell me Joel isn’t the MVP. He’s always doing double the work for the viewers so we can see the improvements
That’s right!
He's a really skilled mechanic as well as a rider/driver.
I was wanting to ask Joel if he can come up with some kind of mechanism even if it’s manual, don’t have to be electric to have like a stock system on the exhaust where it’s quiet and also have a system where you can open it up if you wanna run hard one side would have to happen open and close valve as the other. If you understand what I’m talking about I’ve seen it done on cars.
Just watched this again on the tv with the surround sound. Man, Blake...it sounds awesome! My seven year old came out and even commented how good it sounded. Just ordered the RJWC exhaust from your site for the uforce 1000xl. Can't wait for the MSC headers to come out for it!..Those gains are so impressive! Keep the content coming love the videos!
Awesome bro!! I appreciate ya big time!!
Great video! No one else is doing these upgrades and producing such informative videos. Blake, you really know how to do it.
I have learned so much about the CFMoto vehicles in the last few months. And 10 to 20 percent gains in HP from a four stroke is amazing.
Also, the build quality on this 800XC is fantastic. It's better than the new Polaris I looked at the other day and equals the best out there. That goes for the MSC upgrade parts too. 10/10
Thank you very much Glen!
💪👍👍👍
Awesome, there's a 800. Havent seen anything done with one in awhile. Glad to see u guys always creating new topics and add ons for these machines. Thanks guys.
Thank you!! We will continue to do so
Right up my alley!!! I guess I'm gonna be getting the header and tune!!!
Awesome bro
What I've been waiting for guy's. Awesome!!
Thanks bro
That is totally Impressive!! Only thing is with the exhaust being changed it will be a lot louder for the average trail riding but that deep rumble sounds amazing!! You guys always knock it out of the park!!
Yes sir it is louder... but sure does sound great and performs amazing
@@RealTalkPowersports how about the MSc header on a stock muffler with a whiskey bent tip or similar, with dyno and tune for that. This is impressive but loud is a no go for many of us.
Yes I want to know this also
Are all the factory dyno pulls. Are they similar in pulls as horsepower
Awesome video! Awesome upgrades! Awesome channel… And I don’t even CForce 800 yet!
Thanks brother
Need a MSC in NZ and more CFMOTO owners I've tried to put forward Abita of publicity in exchange for a 'loan' bike so I can vlog my reactions, rides, mods and so much more I guess I'll have to wait until I can finally purchase me a overland. Awesome content, love the videos I'm a huge quad enthusiasts so I watch the CFORCE videos religiously.
I appreciate ya bro!! Hopefully you can get a Overland soon
Another great video. Y'all going to make the header pipes for all the rigs. 👍👍👍👍👍
Thank u sir!
And yes we will eventually
I'LL be waiting. 🤗🤗
Great video, brother! 💪🏼
Thanks brother
+20% horsepower gain is VERY good.
You'll totally feel 20%
Absolutely man
52 to 57 is 10 percent not 20 lol.
$99 is such an awesome deal
Yes sir
Totally agree , way to inexpensive for what it does ! These guys are amazing !
Nice.
What's that tune compared to a 1000 stock?
Very nice exhaust!!! Any plans on making an exhaust headers that for the uforce 1000?
Thank you sir
We will work towards developing Headers for it as well.
But I do not have a ETA on that just yet
@@RealTalkPowersports those gains are massive!!! That is incredible to get that much HP, and torque from just the header swap, and a new tune. I noticed that the AF is around 14 on WOT, Does Joel know how much more fuel you could add before the stock injectors max out? When I tuned My mustang I was shooting for 12.6 is on WOT. Love what you guys are doing, and it's awesome that you all are tackling the performance side of the machines as well. The fitment on the MSC headers looks very good too. Great job on building them!
This is awesome.
Thank ya sir
Can i get this kit without the rest of exhaust? Don't really care for the noise but prefer three extra power and to get rid of the heat
Sorry for the question....the o2 sensors will not give any error? any check engine light?
Is Cleaning the OEM cat out, to lessen restriction would help temperature?
Looks like I need to plan me a road trip.
Come on bro
Is just the ID larger on the aftemarket,thicker wall,couldnt a person jus delete the cat on the oem header and jus add the muffler and get the tune??
Can u explain what its for and make videos of that white tank at the back please
You guys make exhaust for atv 500 and 600?
Can you compare the MSC header to the RJWC header?
I just subscribed nice content
If I want some few more horsepower, I rather buy a larger ATV .
I see people even selling expensive ECU only to get removed speed limiter.
Took me exactly 4 minutes to remove 1 single wire, and people buy expensive ECU only to remove speed limiter!?
Worst thing, people buying it.
Turbo kit for cforce would be fun, that's going to improve 😊
It's definitely possible, saw a video from Finland, with turbo.
Definitely horsepower for the money 👍
Hey any chance yall can do a heat comparison with the factory heat shield vs wrapping the header.
We can do that one day
@@RealTalkPowersports thanks im putting my wish list together, trying to plan it all out.
When will you be taking us on a tour of the CFMOTO Facility?
Soon!
@@RealTalkPowersports Okay awesome thank you very much I appreciate it!
can we get a ride video with the new tune and header? can only imagine what it sounds like in person!!!
this particular build is for sale on the showroom floor at MSC.. but maybe we can build one like it for some ride videos
I see comments about you eventually making new cams for these machines. Are you also going to eventually get into doing porting & polishing heads? That would add some extra ponies. Possibly do some head shaving for more compression. :)
Well heck..... I shave my head all the time! Doesn't help MY compression 😁
@@til1645 Sounds like some high octane is needed. 😁
Yes sir.. we also are working on our Big Bore Kits right now.!
@@RealTalkPowersports Awesome, great to hear. It will be nice to see all that in action when the time comes. :)
Do those headers work with stock muffler?
It will work for sure.. it will lower that temperature on your leg and add power but not close to the amount of if you do the full exhaust
Hey, I’m kind of curious how much is it going to cost me for the front and back and arms for the XL 1000 and labor out the door price?
So Joel/ Blake: Does the lessoning of the back pressure from the larger pipe create any other issues with operation? Thanks
Only thing we had to do was create a new Tune for the Header change and WOW!!
But certainly no issues.. with the new Header tune the AFRs are in perfect safe operation.
Did this 800 have the clutch kit in it ?
can you do this with the520
I want to see a drag race bt cf moto 800 and brute force 750
I need to re map if i mount this?
More girth is always better!!
I want to see a stripped down gncc style cforce 800
That would be nice
You have headers for a 2018 1000 CForce? And small detail, I'm in Germany...
Is this tune and header package still available? The web page no longer exists.
yes sir ill comment the updated link below.. we swapped to a new website and I'm having to update the links
teammscparts.com/products/team-msc-cforce-800xc-header-header-tune-combo?_pos=1&_sid=72aae1755&_ss=r
Question- Since I live in SC can may local dealer get these parts and tune for my 2024 800XC?
We can ship it to you and you bring it to your dealer and ask them to install it for you.
You can text (662) 438-6407 if you need assistance with order or more questions
800 Xc is same engine in my Zforce 800 ex 🎉work for me ?
These header won’t work in the ZFORCE .. the tune is also different
But we have a Tune and exhaust for your 800ex
If you delete the cat on header, smell too much a smoke of the exhaust?
No sir
Amazing will be good on our 850 as well, does MSC ship to Europe parts or only in USA?
I did mail them this question a week ago but no response
Yes they ship all over the world..
have you Texted the store number? (662) 438-6407
hey man i like the gains, is there anything else you guys do to make even more power out of these engines? looking at getting the zforce 950 in AUS and wondering if we can get a good bump up off the 85hp they come with?
The zforce 950 H.O. motor is supposed to make 90HP at the crank..
And yes we are working on big bore kits and cams
So, about that intake manifold . . .
Great video my man👍. Would yall have one for a U1000?
We will do headers for the U1000 in the future
no cat and original muffler dyno result? pls
I showed that in this video and also have another video with the stock results and original tune
You can watch this video and my original CFORCE 800 Tune video and compare all of the graphs
build headers like this for the gen2 500!!
Will these be coming out for the uforce?
We will be working on that but no ETA yet
Why does my owners book day 65 hp
The problem is with all the add ons it's not even at the power of a stock 650 can am
You are trying to compare the 650 crank hp rating to the cfmoto numbers at the wheel 🤔
I hate to tell you, but even the can am 1000 atv models you will see at least a 20% drivetrain loss to the wheels in power. 20-25% is the general rule. This is speaking on the (100% stock). Once you start adding mods that can change the results obviously.
Sure looks like the biggest restrictions on these CForces is the header pipes. I'm thinking the 600 could see some nice gains getting rid of the cat in head pipe as well.
Yes sir we will see in the future for sure
I’ve been waiting for a 600 header and exhaust. 🙏🏻
@@ec16445 Not sure how much of a power increase it will be in the 600, but there should be a gain plus the exhaust temp should be way down getting rid of the cat in the header.
To bad in New Hampshire you cant modify the exhaust
They try their damnedest to stop people from modifying their exhausts here in NY as well. But people don't give a crap what the money thieving politicians say. So they do it anyway. There's no public trails here so any trails there happens to be are all owned by someone and they usually don't care if your machine is loud as long as you're not destroying anything. The same goes for it being your own land. They can't do anything about it regardless how much they dislike it. :)
@@Slane583 that’s how it should be but here in NH there starting to kick people out of places an making it harder an harder to ride unless you own land maybe one day things will get better for us riders
@@nickoli62 Indeed, there's not really many places to ride around here either unless you own some land. People who have been willing to let riders go on their trails are slowly blocking them off because of idiots going around vandalizing things. I'm fortunate enough to have my grandfathers hunting camp that links up to a dirt service road owned by the agricultural institute in the area. There are also other trails branching from it that are owned by a large maple farm which don't seem to mind us being on them. Our only issue is that's really the only place for us to ride and riding the same trails gets boring so we don't go anymore.
NIESAMOWITE!!!! DOBRA ROBOTA PANOWIE. Szkoda ze w POLSCE nie mieszkacie z checia bym swoja CF 850 dal by posiadac takie modyfikacje
I need to look up translation brother
If youre looking at a 800 and spending all this extra cash to get more HP why not just buy the 1000cc ATV to begin with? Its got more HP still and $1000 more than a 800. Which all these upgrades cost more than $1000. Id think you want to start out with the most HP you can get stock instead of saving $1000 then dumping $1000's more in it. Also still less HP than the 79hp of the 1000. 62 vs 79 on web.
There are Tons of CFORCE 800 owners out there that just didn’t purchase the cforce 1000 and want more power
@@RealTalkPowersports My thought is i'd just buy the 1000 to get more power than spending all that on the 800 but i get it. Thanks!!
Lol, you cant run around any neighbors with that. I live in an area where people have 2 or more acres, dirt roads and trails everywhere. Thats amazing the power but no way in hell would I drive something that damn loud. If you can come up with a baffle of some kind even if you lose some of that power then you would probably sell a bunch more
man is not rocket science you change one exhaust to a system with 2 exhaust output style
be careful what you show in these videos .....cat removal can get you unwanted attention for your business.
Price of this is insane.