This is for anybody who is skeptical. I was extremely skeptical of this product but the second you plug this in and go you feel the difference. The sport plus mode kicks butt. No joke amazing product.
Update since my comment 1 year ago. I installed one on my 2022 TRD ORP and it is fantastic. Made all the difference in the world. I did not mount the control module, but instead tucked it behind the kick panel and use the app on my iPhone to make any changes. I settled on the Sport-0 setting, at this setting it has the same response as my 2020 Land Cruiser for the most part.
I don’t comment on many things, but this was a great, clean well produced instructional video. I also appreciated the fact that you went and drove the car after and filmed your initial reaction. Great job and thanks for the info.
Now this is a good video explaining the Pedal Commander. People with Challengers like to make it sound like it adds horsepower, which it doesn’t. Just increases throttle response
I received my pedal commander today and this gadget works well. It's a 10 stars gadget. I'm very please with the gadget. It works well with my borla type S exhaust and trd intake set up in my 2015 4runner.
I’m glad I bought this, will be delivered this Wednesday. The 4runner lag and gear hunting has bothered me for the last 5 yrs that I’ve owned it. Toyota should’ve fixed that in 2014 when they did the facelift. 🙄 The only time you would want the lag is when you’re making technical moves, offroading. Update: installed today and it’s glorious. I’m not even after super sensitivity… just enough to take the lag out like city 0 or -1. Perfection
Great Video. Very well done. And no annoying background music! Also, Are you Gerald Butler's stunt double???? :) Just installed mine. Drove it around the block and man what a difference. Once you get above 3k RPM no real difference. But, from idle to 3k a totally different vehicle. So nice! I'll know more in a couple days. Going on a 1k mile trip.
So after 1k+ miles. I notice it doesn't downshift near as often to get around vehicles on the road if you roll a light foot. It stays in high gear on the highway at certain speeds better too. It is more snappy in throttle response making me actually like driving it now. Before it felt like a Rider truck in throttle response in comparison. A little more about highway speeds driving: I have speed limits of 80 in some spots. Around a decent over run 5-10 it stays in high gear much better. Especially up small inclines. Once you get over 2500 RPM in high gear it runs much better on the highway. Whereas before it would downshift with a little throttle, you can actually roll into it a little and go around vehicles or up small inclines without the typical downshift. Around town is amazing difference. It is much more snappy off the line. I don't have to rev it up as much to get going. Light throttle and shifting around 2500-3000 rpm feels like a night and day difference in the vehicle. Even if I put around with 2000 rpm shifts it is snappy. Fuel mileage has suffered. I don't have any real numbers as I'm not concerned. I couldn't care as the driving experience is that much better for me. I can still get good mileage if I stay out of it more. But, I don't drive it like a PRIUS.
Thank you very much for this straight forward and honest video report. Been looking for an inexpensive way to improve performance. I've already installed a cold air intake. That helped a little. Appreciate the clarity in showing the hook up and your opinion of the noticed positive performance. Just placed my order for my 2021 4Runner!
We just got a 2017 4runner that had one of these in it. No instruction but figured it out. I put on highest setting let wife drive it she said "it feels like a v8 now"
Think very carefully! Granted, I haven't tried the pedal Commander yet, but when I bought my 4Runner I really wanted to love it, and thought I would get used to it. It's been the opposite, the longer I've owned it, the longer the drivetrain and the lag annoys me.
Great video! Have a 22 4Runner sitting at port and everyone and their mother in the 4Runner world talks about the lag so this is a great review to see for an easy install to help with that. Definitely ordering and want to experience the difference for myself, cheers!
Thank you so much for your super kind words! Congrats on the new rig!! When you’re ready, you can grab your Pedal Commander here: trailgridpro.com/shop/performance/pedal-commander-10/
Has anybody gotten issues with the pedal commander? I keep getting engine light and trac off lights go off after running for a couple days. The unit was a take off from a 17'TRD pro to a now 2021 TRD pro. Had issues with the first unit on the 17’ but pedal commander fixed it under warranty. It is now out of warranty and pedal commander won’t help.
Thanks for the vid. I have a 2021 TRD Pro in MGM just like yours. Just got my Pedal Commander yesterday. Installing it tomorrow. Great instructions and suggestions. Thanks for recording your vid with excellent audio! Looks like I gotta get those headlights too! Dang! Thanks again!
Awesome! Love MGM, clearly lol! 🙌 Hope install goes smoothly for ya - I’m sure it will. It’s a piece of cake! Thank you for your kind words. Appreciate you watching and commenting!
This video is awesome! However the step at 4:20 - mine will not come off. Two folks have tried to make sure I’m not crazy. Did they crazy glue it in there? Update: we finally got it w a Philips screw driver. Whew! Thank you again! I am loving this device!
Yup. This is getting returned. I have tried absolutely everything to get the cable harness off and nothing works. You also should maybe give some tips as to how to get to the tab.
If the tab sticks, use a flat head screwdriver to depress the tab while pulling up on the harness. It’ll come off. Always does. :-) Did you purchase the Pedal Commander from us, Trail Grid Pro?
Man what a beautiful 4runner. My question may seem like a dumb one,and I could probably have my answer through a little minor research, but I'm tired today lol. But will this work on a 2019 TRD Off Road w/key ignition?
very good review, will be buying a pedal commander for my 2019 blazer. ever since I went with A/T tires it feels slightly lazier at the throttle and sport mode on the blazer alone is nothing impressive so this should give me the take off I'm looking for.
Just ordered a Pedal Commander tonight for my 2018 TRD OFF-ROAD PREMIER. Good review 😎🤙. I have a question on your roof rack/basket. I purchased a set of T-bars shaped like a aircraft wings thinking they would be quite! They were not and whistled loud with moon roof open and I could still hear it when closed! I'm in the process of returning them. I have the same setup as you with a moon roof so I only want the short rack like yours. I know yours came factory being a TRD PRO. My rig looks alot like yours except mine is black with green led Raptor lights I custom made w 2 lime green D rings under front and the lime green trailer hitch D ring in the rear. I got 4 of the green lights so I centered 3 across the top of the center grill bar saying Toyota and put the 4th under that bar in the center toward top. I have never seen any with green led lights and it matches my lime green D rings.I have had a lot people tell me they love the green! I got off track a little LOL! Your roof rack! 😅 how is it with wind noise? Does it make any noise that you notice? I just have the two raised bars that go from front to rear on each side without any cross bars. I have seen the rack you have with a wind guard on it that says Baja stamped on it . Your rack would be perfect for the look and the few times I would need it. I'm in Michigan and we deer & bear hunt so it would work nice to toss anything we got up there! Thanks Greg G 😎🤙
So, the roof rack in the video is the factory TRD Pro roof rack and it doesn't make any noise at all. We've since replaced that rack for the Gobi Stealth rack and love it!
Has anyone come across check engine or other lights on dashboard light up or if vehicle engine cuts off, stalls or any other issues with pedal commander installed?
Great vid - thx! I've had Hikeit throttle controller for quite some time on my Silverado and love it, so now want to put on my wifes 4Runner. I wanted to see how you got to the plug cause its so far up there, could barely see it. Thx BTW - you might also explain its more than just eliminating delay, it changes the whole throttle profile. For instance, stock throttle using "throttle-by-wire applying maybe 25% throttle application at the pedal, might only get you 10% at the engine, unlike the old days of mechanical linkage. Each setting modifies that profile, where sport+ might give you 75% at the engine with only 50% at the pedal. Its an awesome fix. I plan on installing it when wife is out of town - she loves the car except for the throttle. Thx again for posting this.
I got a PC for my new 2023 Off-road premier and will install it soon. Your video was very helpful in deciding on the location, cable routing and settings. What I can't understand is why the cold-air intake isn't available for the '23 yet! I know I could buy an earlier one, but don't want to screw with my warrantees. I gather it will be "approved" soon. Any ideas?
@@TrailGridPro Before I installed the P.C., I watched a few more reviews from people after using the P.C. for a while, I decided to get the PedalMonster, which requires a connection to the OBD port also. The issue that got me was the acceleration of being in reverse, which is disabled by the P.M. Refund already processed, and the P.M. is a little cheaper. Maybe you can do a review of that one also. As for the intake, I trust that it will be "supported" for the '23 4runner pretty soon. No reason it shouldn't be.
Great review Cliff and your 4Runner looks awesome! I’m thinking about getting the same color metallic grey in a Trd Pro and same set up as yours! . I was looking at the black color but I’ve been there and done that color many times in the past with my vehicles. Black is so hard to keep clean and not very forgiving when it comes to swirl marks and scratches.
So, true story .. I wanted black but couldn’t find it ... and now I’m so glad I didn’t, lol! I really like the MGM and I have scratches my limbs and branches and you can barely see them, which is great! I’d definitely go with the MGM if I were you! Thanks for watching!
What did you end up getting? Personally, I think black is the worst color, for the issues of keeping it clean and scratch free mentioned it. I also think it doesn't look great on 4Runners, these have interesting lines and the black kind of hides them. I think the MGM is one of the best colors on these. Mine is silver, I bought it used so I didn't have much choice. The nice thing about the silver is that it hardly shows anything. I think that with the Pro, wouldn't you want to get the exclusive color though? It seems like for resale, the Pros that are the exclusive colors seem to have the highest prices.
@@trailrunnah8886 Well, funny story like Cliffs! I couldn’t find a magnetic grey metallic color 2021 Trd Pro in my area and ended going with a black 2021 again back in November 2020. 😂 As you know the Trd Pro’s 2021 are hard to find as many are already pre purchased and I was at my local dealer here in Texas and they happened to have a black one they just got in no one had pre purchased as of yet. I’m really enjoying it and love it very much in spite of its color. I will probably have a paint correction ceramic coating done to it very soon to help wit the black paint. Thanks for the follow up question and hope you are still enjoying yours my friend. By the way, have you done any mods to yours yet? I haven’t done any to mine but want to do the Westcott Designs lift like Cliff’s very soon so as to level it out and put bigger tires on. 😀
@@jasonritchey8610 Congrats on finding one, even if it wasn't your first choice in color. Don't get me wrong, a shined up black vehicle look sharp. Luckily you're in Texas, so far as I know you don't have too much bad weather there. Where I live in New England, it rains all the time so as soon as you wash your black vehicle, it's guaranteed to be dirty the next day. When I was a kid I had a black Trans Am, and I would wash that car three times a week and it'still always looked dirty haha. I've had mine 2 years this week, (it's a 2013 Trail Edition that I bought used) and I haven't really done a ton of mods. Over the last two years I've just changed all the fluids, regular maintenance, and cleaned up the frame, because New England, and I've added RSG Rock sliders, and RCI skid plates. I had this vision that I was going to off road and overlanding with it, but that's yet to happen haha. I also just put a set of General Grabber ATX tires on, in the stock size since I haven't lifted it yet. I'm on the fence about lifting it, since I don't think I want to go any bigger with tires. Even going from the stock Highway terrain tires to these all-terrains, Ive had a solid 2MPG drop in fuel economy, and the vehicle just feels more sluggish as well. It feels underpowered even with stock size tires on it, I can't imagine putting bigger and heavier tires on it. The fact that some people are running 33s or 34s and say the stock gearing is fine boggles my mind. I feel like mine starts to struggle when it even looks at a hill, never mind if I lived in the mountains. (I realize I added some weight with the sliders and skids, but no more than having two full-size passengers I'm bored, which is not something out of the realm of everyday use) I'm really frustrated with the drivetrain in this thing, I'm going back and forth and whether I want to sell it or not. I really like the vehicle, I just get really aggravated with the constant downshifting and how loud the engine is. I don't like the sound of it at all, I'm a V8 guy and this 4.0 just sounds like it's in pain all the time. I don't really care about the 0 to 60 time, I think the HP is fine and it does move when you really flog it. I think the problem with this is that is geared too low and it makes torque way too high in the RPM range. I would just like it to be able to maintain speed on a grade without needing to downshift 2 or 3 gears. At this point I don't even try to finesse it, if I'm on the highway and hit a decent hill I just put it to the floor till I get 10 over the speed limit and then I let off. I've never owned a vehicle that required such aggressiveness with the throttle. My last car was a turbo 2.5L 5 cylinder Volvo, and that thing was a torque monster compared to the 4.0. Okay, enough bitching LOL. Good luck with yours! Overall they're fantastic Vehicles, they just need a drivetrain upgrade.
Anyone have issues with the check engine light coming on due to the pedal commander? My light turned on after a couple months of use and after taking the pedal commander off the check engine light turned off after some time.
I've had the pedal commander on my 2007 Tundra SR5 for three years and I use it every day. It's the most innovative product I've ever seen and used. In LA traffic I put mine on extreme mode plus 5 and it's absolutely awesome! Instantaneous acceleration and response that I would have never known possible. The two lower modes I apply as I feel appropriate and I switch between modes throughout the day to make for a better, safer, and more enjoyable driving experience. Don't use the sport mode around town unless you're going to race like some irresponsible adolescent... But if you do, here's how you do it.. lol. Seriously.. it will cause surging and it's not good. Return to factory mode when in slow traffic and parking lots, and if you drop your truck off for service!... Embarrassing. I highly recommend this product.
Tell us the truth- you pre-disconnected the cable from your accelerator plug. I've been wrestling mine for 15 minutes and the plug is nowhere nearly as easily disconnectable as you made yours look.
Hey thank for all the information you gave. I was hoping that I could get your feedback on eco mode. Have you done a test to see if gas mileage has increased driving in eco?
It’s absolutely our pleasure! I know … I totally forgot to add a part about Eco mode! Well, I’ve had the Pedal Commander in my rig for about 2 years now and on average ECO mode gives me an extra 2 to 4 MPGs depending on driving conditions.
Thank you for your kind feedback! I typically stay in City +1 in all conditions unless I’m on a long trip and want to save MPG’s and then I’ll go in to Economy.
Thanks so much! The tails are the Eagle Eye Smoked Tails that I grabbed on eBay. I’m about to swap them for these though: trailgridpro.com/shop/lighting/morimoto-tails-10-4runner/
Got my PC yesterday and probably sending it back on Monday - I cannot get the stock plug off its mount, maybe Toyota locked these this year (2021 T4R)? You guys make it look so easy "just squeeze and pull off" yeah right...
The tab is on the console side of the plug. If it’s too hard to remove with your hands (which is common) use a small flat head screwdriver to depress the tab while pulling up at the same time. That should do the trick!
It took me 45 minutes to get mine off. I guess it took just the right amount of pressure on the passenger side of the clip to release it. I ended up using a small piece of metal between my finger and the plug to get a little Leverage and it came out.
I’m picking up my 2021 TRD Pro 4 Runner in a few weeks!! I’m planning on getting a Pedal Commander but wanted to ask- whenever I bring my 4 Runner to Toyota’s service Dept for any reason, should I disconnect it? I hear it could void a warranty? Is that true???
@@TrailGridPro thanks! I watched one RUclips video that said to remove the device before turning the car over for any service at the dealership. So I wasn’t sure.
Cliff, a couple of questions: since the install, have you experienced any issues with the drivetrain, transmission, or other components? Does this piece of equipment voids the warranty? The reason I ask is because I just got my 4R and considering installing this piece. Not sure if it’s a good idea for a new vehicle. Thanks
Great questions! I’ve had it installed for a year and a half with no issues. Pedal Commander states their product does not void the warranty due to the fact that it doesn’t cut any factory wiring.
Awesome install instructions and review. Made it look easy and it seems like a great addition to my build. I just picked one up through your website. Thanks.
@@TrailGridPro no problem. So from your experience so far, is there any particular setting that you’d consider a ‘sweet spot’ for your day to day driving?
@@twintips420 Absolutely. I don’t move much out of City +1 unless I’m on a long trip on the highway and I’ll through it in Economy mode if I’m not in a hurry.
Great question! I’ve been running the Pedal Commander for 7 months and my check engine light has never come on. Let us know if you have any other questions. Thanks!
Great review! I like the ease of installation with this thing. Great point about safety, I have a uphill on ramp to merge onto a normally busy highway on the way home from work, every day I approach it with trepidation because I know I can't get up and out of the way quickly. I have a specific question about the performance of this thing though. I think my 4Runner is fine around town under 40 mph. The big issue I have with it is its performance on anything resembling a grade. As soon as I hit any grade it loses speed, and more pressure on the accelerator pedal simply produces a downshift and more noise. Press it harder, another downshift, then it will start to accelerate up the hill. I find this incredibly frustrating and annoying, to the point that I'm pretty much ready to put this thing up for sale and move on to something with a real engine. However, I do like everything else about it, so I would like to be able to keep it. So, after installing this, does it let you dig into the throttle a little bit more before downshifting? I feel like the way it's programmed stock, the accelerator pedal is basically just a controller for the transmission. Maybe if the engine wasn't so loud and thrashy it wouldn't bother me as much, but as it is now whenever it downshifts it just grates on me down to my last nerve. Thanks for any info!
Thanks so much for your awesome feedback! Much appreciated! So, the short answer to your question is definitely “yes!” I live in a very hilly part of Maryland and have to navigate steep inclines do go various places on the highway and this definitely helps you make the trek uphill faster. In the review I mentioned that it almost seems as if it goes through gears, downshifts, etc. faster - basically everything happens faster, so I think you’ll find it will alleviate your issues - and the good news is if it doesn’t you have 60-days to return it, no questions asked ... so you don’t have much to lose: trailgridpro.com/pedal-commander-shop/
@@TrailGridPro thank you for the quick reply! Also great info, that's exactly what I needed to know. I remember you saying it goes through the gears better, but didn't know how it behaved on grades. Also didn't know that there was a 60-day money-back guarantee, so looks like it's definitely worth a try! I saw your link with the code, so I will definitely purchase through you when I'm ready.
Nope, according to Pedal Commanders website it doesn’t since it doesn’t cut any factory wires - which makes sense of course. Here’s more info on our site: trailgridpro.com/pedal-commander-shop/
Stupid question but I got mine today. I left the key fob 35 ft away and had the door open for 10-15 mins. When I came back, the door light was still on. Is it still okay to install the Pedal Commander?
@@TrailGridPro Just installed and the results are phenomenal! I love it! I don't know why I didn't invested in this earlier. Thank you for your review. It really helped me decide whether I was going to purchase it or not. Thanks brother!
Does using this void any manufacture warranties on the 4Runner? Also, I have heard that this can “throw codes”. I’m not sure which ones, but has that happened or can it happen for what reason? I’m super interested in getting this. I miss the ‘go’ power. This sounds like it will give the ‘go’. :)
We've had ours installed for 2 years and I've never thrown codes. Also, I've take my vehicle to the Toyota dealership for all of my service (other than brakes which we do in the shop) and I had a couple things replaced via warranty and there were no questions asked even though I have a Pedal Commander and many other mods on my rig.
Hey bro, thanks for the review. Do you know if installing this voids the warranty at all? I have a 12 year 125k on mine and don't want to drop the ball by doing anything that can void it.
According to Pedal Commander, it doesn’t void the warranty since it doesn’t cut any factory wires but I’d talk to your warranty company/dealer to be sure.
Thx for taking time to show this. I have some questions - I am comparing TRD Pro to a Jeep Rubicon to decide what to buy. What is the impact on fuel economy in the different modes? Have you done any measurements? If not, will you do so and then update? What does Econ mode do for performance - does that increase mpg or ... ? Is the exhaust sound that I hear on your audio normal - bec it seems loud and prolly annoying after a while - to me. Is there an exhaust drone when you drive at steady speed on freeway - and can you opine on the noise - ie, does it bother you ?
Thanks for watching! Really appreciate it! So, I haven’t noticed any decrease in MPG in City, Sport or Sport+ and have noticed about 2 MPG increase while in Economy. Econ mode provides an even slower throttle response than stock and basically doesn’t let you gun it at all. Really great to conserve gas. The TRD Pro has an upgraded exhaust system which provides the more throaty sound. I actually love it and any time I actually notice it anymore, I enjoy hearing it. I have zero experience with a Rubicon but I can absolutely tell you I love everything about my TRD Pro 4Runner. Thanks again and let me know if I can help with anything else!
What did you get? Just curious, I don't hear a lot of people comparing the two vehicles. Usually people are Jeep people, or Toyota people, LOL. Not including me, I bought the 4Runner because I thought it'd be better daily driver, though I'd rather have the Rubicon LOL.
@@trailrunnah8886 Howdy - I bought 4Runner TRD Premium Venture Edition [cosmetic changes] with KDSS instead of TRD PRO. I think Kdss is better overall on and off road. And it definitely drives better than Jeep - which seemed to small for me too. $runner is great daily driver - way better than Rubicon - but of course the Rubicon 4-door looks the best stock - no doubt - but like I said a bit small inside dimensions.
Out of curiosity what were the concerns regarding leaving the key fab away from the car and keeping the doors open? Concerned because I followed the directions to leave the electronics to shut off before installing but I watched a different install vid that didn’t include leaving the door open and I forgot to leave my key fab 35ft away. Just wondering what issues I should be looking for in case my mistakes caused a problem??
Honestly, I’m really not sure of the repercussions of not doing both of those - I would assume they want to make sure the ECM is shut off completely in some capacity and perhaps they experiences some percentage of issues when those two things were not done. But, I’m not entirely sure. I did both and have had no issues. I’m sure you could uninstall and reinstall if you wanted to do them both this time.
I think I’ve discovered the issues, I didn’t notice anything at first but coming back to the car tonight after work I found that when I opened the door to the car the inside lighting never came on and same when I exited and shut off the engine. The other issue which is more important and stressful is the fact now my my high-beams won’t turn on in the forward lock position. It goes directly to auto but won’t go on or stay on permanently themselves. Definitely concerned about those two issues as it has to be a programming error with something in the cars computer right? Do you think I simple uninstall/reinstall will fix it? Need to try in the morning but what are your thoughts? Ironically however the check engine light never came on even though I did the install with my key fab in my pocket but I’m assuming that’s what caused the other issues with the computer
@@shanehuq987 Ah, while I’m sorry you’re experiencing those issues, I’m grateful you shared them with us. You definitely have shared some important knowledge. 🙏🏼 Honestly, at this point I might call your local service department and ask them what the best course of action might be to reverse the couple issues before reinstalling.
Just purchased from TGP on their 4th of July sale. thank you cliff. you guys do some amazing things and all your videos are great. Sport+ @2 for me. just need to understand you have to feather that pedal. no more need to stomp on it from a stop light.
Damn thats a clean build, I need add those taillights! Just added a video of the 21 pro while offroading. Pedal Commander is my next upgrade. Nice video!
Thanks, man! Really appreciate it! I just watched your first impressions vid when you mentioned the stock throttle response, lol. Yup, PC takes care of that! I’ll watch your newest vid next! Shameless plug alert: We’re now a Pedal Commander dealer, lol, so when you’re ready you can grab one on our site and they’re an additional $50 off now with the code on this page: trailgridpro.com/pedal-commander-shop/
@@TrailGridPro hello sir… I was searching through reviews and saw your video. Verify good, straight to the point. And I would like to order but I don’t see the discount still available, was this is one time thing?
@@FlexsWorld Thanks for watching, Lance and we appreciate your great feedback! Pedal Commander corporate authorizes sales at some points of the year but I haven’t seen one ☝️ that good since then. We do have a new customer coupon code, feel free to use the code TGP5 at checkout to grab 5% off your next purchase with us!
Thank you! Yep, it absolutely will work with your 2021. If you’re ready, here’s the link to view the product page on our website (use the code newyear30 at checkout to get another $30 off the sale price - ends tomorrow): trailgridpro.com/shop/performance/pedal-commander-10/
Good video thank you. Question... does this void warranty? Any thoughts on any benefits with gas mileage? Does it ONLY help with pedal acceleration? Thx in advance looking to get my21 soon...
According to Pedal Commanders site it doesn’t void the warranty because it doesn’t cut any factory wires. From my experience with plug and play upgrades, that makes sense. In the video I completely forgot to mention ECO mode, but I’ve been using it a lot since and it definitely saves MPG’s. Most likely a mile or two per gallon. All other modes (city, sport and sport plus) help with acceleration. Thanks for watching!!
Watched a bunch of reviews on this product and this was by far the best, most informative, most professional, and honest review. Thank you.
Thank you very much! I really appreciate you watching and for your super kind feedback! Means a lot!
This is for anybody who is skeptical.
I was extremely skeptical of this product but the second you plug this in and go you feel the difference. The sport plus mode kicks butt. No joke amazing product.
We completely agree and are super pumped you like it as well!!
Does this change the mpg?
Update since my comment 1 year ago. I installed one on my 2022 TRD ORP and it is fantastic. Made all the difference in the world. I did not mount the control module, but instead tucked it behind the kick panel and use the app on my iPhone to make any changes. I settled on the Sport-0 setting, at this setting it has the same response as my 2020 Land Cruiser for the most part.
Woohoo! Thanks for the follow-up! We're stoked to hear you're enjoying it!
question? you need to disconnect the battery, I'm going to put it tomorrow thanks for your video.
"Wow" followed by that chuckle says it all. The difference is evident!
Indeed it is! We love it!
Thanks for creating such high quality content. Helped me make a decision on the Peddle Commander and have it on order. Great job!
So glad you found it helpful!! It’s absolutely our pleasure! You’ll definitely enjoy your new PC!
I don’t comment on many things, but this was a great, clean well produced instructional video. I also appreciated the fact that you went and drove the car after and filmed your initial reaction. Great job and thanks for the info.
Thanks for your super kind words! Appreciate ya very much!!
Now this is a good video explaining the Pedal Commander. People with Challengers like to make it sound like it adds horsepower, which it doesn’t. Just increases throttle response
Thanks so much for your kind words! Yep, you’re exactly right! It adds throttle response … no horsepower!
Today installed it on my 2021 4runner and the results are amazing. Thank you for the video. It feels like a completely different vehicle.
So awesome to hear!!! Thank you for your kind words!!
Totally agree with you fella- completely changed my 2013 TT FJ Cruiser - same engine and set up as yours
Heck yea! Oh man, wish we had an FJ!!
I received my pedal commander today and this gadget works well. It's a 10 stars gadget. I'm very please with the gadget. It works well with my borla type S exhaust and trd intake set up in my 2015 4runner.
Awesome news! So glad it works well for ya!
Just got mine in the mail today. Can’t wait to set it up… thanks for the great video!
Woohoo! Hope everything went well!!
@@TrailGridPro went great… love the improved throttle response
I’m glad I bought this, will be delivered this Wednesday. The 4runner lag and gear hunting has bothered me for the last 5 yrs that I’ve owned it. Toyota should’ve fixed that in 2014 when they did the facelift. 🙄
The only time you would want the lag is when you’re making technical moves, offroading.
Update: installed today and it’s glorious. I’m not even after super sensitivity… just enough to take the lag out like city 0 or -1. Perfection
Woohoo! We're happy to hear you love it!
Bought one for my 4 gen V8 and I love it! That notorious “slow-runner” lag is gone. This is how they should come from the factory.
Yea, I totally love mine as well! Such a better experience!! Thanks for watching!!
Really is crazy how noticeable the the throttle response is even on city mode and how It makes the truck feel more powerful. Nice vid!
Totally! I was super surprised how noticeable it is! Thanks for your kind comment! Appreciate ya!
Just installed mine after watching your vid and I cant believe the difference, especially in Sport and Sport+
That’s so awesome! Congrats on the successful install! Sport and sport+ are pretty awesome, huh?
One of the best looking T4R I’ve seen on the net
Appreciate it!!
Great Video. Very well done. And no annoying background music!
Also, Are you Gerald Butler's stunt double???? :)
Just installed mine. Drove it around the block and man what a difference.
Once you get above 3k RPM no real difference.
But, from idle to 3k a totally different vehicle. So nice!
I'll know more in a couple days. Going on a 1k mile trip.
Such awesome news you're noticing such a difference! We completely agree. Also, we had a guy earlier say that Cliff sounded like Kenny Powers???? Lol.
So after 1k+ miles. I notice it doesn't downshift near as often to get around vehicles on the road if you roll a light foot. It stays in high gear on the highway at certain speeds better too. It is more snappy in throttle response making me actually like driving it now. Before it felt like a Rider truck in throttle response in comparison.
A little more about highway speeds driving:
I have speed limits of 80 in some spots. Around a decent over run 5-10 it stays in high gear much better. Especially up small inclines. Once you get over 2500 RPM in high gear it runs much better on the highway. Whereas before it would downshift with a little throttle, you can actually roll into it a little and go around vehicles or up small inclines without the typical downshift.
Around town is amazing difference. It is much more snappy off the line. I don't have to rev it up as much to get going. Light throttle and shifting around 2500-3000 rpm feels like a night and day difference in the vehicle. Even if I put around with 2000 rpm shifts it is snappy.
Fuel mileage has suffered. I don't have any real numbers as I'm not concerned. I couldn't care as the driving experience is that much better for me. I can still get good mileage if I stay out of it more. But, I don't drive it like a PRIUS.
Thank you very much for this straight forward and honest video report. Been looking for an inexpensive way to improve performance. I've already installed a cold air intake. That helped a little. Appreciate the clarity in showing the hook up and your opinion of the noticed positive performance. Just placed my order for my 2021 4Runner!
So glad our video was helpful! You’ll love the improvement for sure! We appreciate your kind feedback! Thanks for watching!!
just got my 2021 trd off road venture trim thank God this throttle thingy is not just me that noticed it I am ordering this right now ty man ..
Nope, not just you! You’ll love the PC! Thanks for watching and congrats on the new rig!!
Just bought mine. Waiting for the weekend to install it. Thanks for the Awesome video. I'm pumped now.
Awesome! Good luck on the install and hope you love it!!
We just got a 2017 4runner that had one of these in it. No instruction but figured it out. I put on highest setting let wife drive it she said "it feels like a v8 now"
Haha, that’s a great story! You’re exactly right - the PC definitely makes it feel like you have a bigger engine.
I finally gave in and ordered this today from your site.
Woohoo! Thanks so much! Have you put it in yet!
I was gnawing on the throttle pedal cable like a caveman until I saw your video and realized how easy it was to remove. Thanks
Oh awesome! Glad it helped ya out!!
You are giving me more faith in wanting to look at the 4Runner again. I love this vehicle but then I test drove it I hated the delay in throttle.
Oh, yea ... throw this in and your throttle lag is completely gone! Thanks a lot for watching!! Appreciate ya!
Think very carefully! Granted, I haven't tried the pedal Commander yet, but when I bought my 4Runner I really wanted to love it, and thought I would get used to it. It's been the opposite, the longer I've owned it, the longer the drivetrain and the lag annoys me.
@@trailrunnah8886 My honest opinion is to give PC a shot. I think you’ll find it will solve all your lag problems. It did for me!
Most simple review I ever seen “It makes you go faster , faster” 😂
Haha, yup! That’s about it!
Great video! Have a 22 4Runner sitting at port and everyone and their mother in the 4Runner world talks about the lag so this is a great review to see for an easy install to help with that. Definitely ordering and want to experience the difference for myself, cheers!
Thank you so much for your super kind words! Congrats on the new rig!! When you’re ready, you can grab your Pedal Commander here: trailgridpro.com/shop/performance/pedal-commander-10/
Review, and oh look youre an authorised dealer too! What a coincidence!
Thanks so much for watching! We appreciate you!
Fantastic vid on the Pedal Commander. I am looking at this mod. Very informative. Well done.
Thanks so much! Pick one up here if you’re interested: trailgridpro.com/shop/performance/pedal-commander-10/
Since 4Runner also has brake by wire, is there any product to fix the brake pedal delay?
Good question! Not that we're aware of, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist!
Same color as mine, love that almost stock look! Good video too
Right on! We appreciate that!
Nice job on the review!! I hope your subs grow...with reviews like this you definitely deserve them. Well done, sir.
I appreciate your kind words very much! Thanks so much for watching and for your comment! 🙏🙌
Most welcome - any chance you have front wheel center of hub to bottom of fender measurement? Thanks!
@@abc32119 I don’t, but watch this video - this is from Westcott and it talks all about it: ruclips.net/video/tXLurMz7wG0/видео.html
Just ordered one today for my 2017 SR5 4runner. Hopefully it runs well with it.
Thank you so much! We think you’ll love it! We do! Thanks again and we appreciate you very much!!
Has anybody gotten issues with the pedal commander? I keep getting engine light and trac off lights go off after running for a couple days. The unit was a take off from a 17'TRD pro to a now 2021 TRD pro. Had issues with the first unit on the 17’ but pedal commander fixed it under warranty. It is now out of warranty and pedal commander won’t help.
thanks to this great video, I am going to finally purchase this for my 2018 Tacoma TRD Sport. And great to see a channel by a fellow Marylander :)
Woohoo to Maryland! It’s absolutely our pleasure!!
Getting that next for my 4Runner. Just got the TRD Pro exhaust installed today and this will go quite nice with the new exhaust
Yes it will go very nice with the new exhaust!! 🙌
Mine a 2018 TRD with regular key does it make a difference? On those initial instructions
Nope that should not make a difference!
Thanks for the vid. I have a 2021 TRD Pro in MGM just like yours. Just got my Pedal Commander yesterday. Installing it tomorrow. Great instructions and suggestions. Thanks for recording your vid with excellent audio! Looks like I gotta get those headlights too! Dang! Thanks again!
Awesome! Love MGM, clearly lol! 🙌 Hope install goes smoothly for ya - I’m sure it will. It’s a piece of cake! Thank you for your kind words. Appreciate you watching and commenting!
This video is awesome!
However the step at 4:20 - mine will not come off. Two folks have tried to make sure I’m not crazy. Did they crazy glue it in there?
Update: we finally got it w a Philips screw driver. Whew!
Thank you again! I am loving this device!
Thanks for your comment! Those connectors can be tough the first time - ours have been unplugged so many times it's easy at this point!
Question; when you hit the gas is that the trd airbox someone installed or the power commander making the sound ?
TRD Pro exhaust has a rumble :-)
Great video! Thanks man. I think I'll swoop one up.
Woohoo! Thanks for your super kind words!
Wow, you sold me on Pedal Commander; good work on the install demo. 👍✌️🇨🇦
Thanks so much for your kind words! Glad you found it helpful!!
Yup. This is getting returned. I have tried absolutely everything to get the cable harness off and nothing works. You also should maybe give some tips as to how to get to the tab.
If the tab sticks, use a flat head screwdriver to depress the tab while pulling up on the harness. It’ll come off. Always does. :-)
Did you purchase the Pedal Commander from us, Trail Grid Pro?
@@TrailGridPro no. I got it on Amazon. Maybe I’ll try to get it off and then purchase it from you once I know I can get it off.
@@Branchofzion Okay, sounds good - please let us know if we can help with anything else!
@@TrailGridProso how exactly am I supposed to use the flat head screw driver. This thing doesn’t want to budge.
@@TrailGridPro never mind. Actually found the piece and did it with my finger.
Man what a beautiful 4runner. My question may seem like a dumb one,and I could probably have my answer through a little minor research, but I'm tired today lol. But will this work on a 2019 TRD Off Road w/key ignition?
Yep, it absolutely will work on your rig!
Installed my PC today thanks to Trail Grid getting it to me super fast! And wow it is amazing on my 19 Taco. Thanks for the install video also!
Nice job, Tradd!!! We’re so happy you’re loving it! Makes a huge difference!! We appreciate ya very much!!
A most helpful review. Sincere and hit on all the right points, especially driving enjoyment. Thank you.
Thank you so much for watching! So glad you found it helpful!
very good review, will be buying a pedal commander for my 2019 blazer. ever since I went with A/T tires it feels slightly lazier at the throttle and sport mode on the blazer alone is nothing impressive so this should give me the take off I'm looking for.
Thanks for your kind remarks! Yea, in my opinion you can’t go wrong with Pedal Commander!!
I don’t know how you got the first part off but my tab doesn’t want to let the gas pedal cable go.
Use a flat head screwdriver to depress the tab if it’s kinda stuck.
Just ordered a Pedal Commander tonight for my 2018 TRD OFF-ROAD PREMIER. Good review 😎🤙. I have a question on your roof rack/basket. I purchased a set of T-bars shaped like a aircraft wings thinking they would be quite! They were not and whistled loud with moon roof open and I could still hear it when closed! I'm in the process of returning them. I have the same setup as you with a moon roof so I only want the short rack like yours. I know yours came factory being a TRD PRO. My rig looks alot like yours except mine is black with green led Raptor lights I custom made w 2 lime green D rings under front and the lime green trailer hitch D ring in the rear. I got 4 of the green lights so I centered 3 across the top of the center grill bar saying Toyota and put the 4th under that bar in the center toward top. I have never seen any with green led lights and it matches my lime green D rings.I have had a lot people tell me they love the green! I got off track a little LOL! Your roof rack! 😅 how is it with wind noise? Does it make any noise that you notice? I just have the two raised bars that go from front to rear on each side without any cross bars. I have seen the rack you have with a wind guard on it that says Baja stamped on it . Your rack would be perfect for the look and the few times I would need it. I'm in Michigan and we deer & bear hunt so it would work nice to toss anything we got up there! Thanks Greg G 😎🤙
So, the roof rack in the video is the factory TRD Pro roof rack and it doesn't make any noise at all. We've since replaced that rack for the Gobi Stealth rack and love it!
Has anyone come across check engine or other lights on dashboard light up or if vehicle engine cuts off, stalls or any other issues with pedal commander installed?
Generally speaking that only occurs if the pre-install procedures mentioned in the video aren't met.
Loved your review! Great looking rig also
Thanks man! We appreciate that!!!
Great vid - thx! I've had Hikeit throttle controller for quite some time on my Silverado and love it, so now want to put on my wifes 4Runner. I wanted to see how you got to the plug cause its so far up there, could barely see it. Thx
BTW - you might also explain its more than just eliminating delay, it changes the whole throttle profile. For instance, stock throttle using "throttle-by-wire applying maybe 25% throttle application at the pedal, might only get you 10% at the engine, unlike the old days of mechanical linkage. Each setting modifies that profile, where sport+ might give you 75% at the engine with only 50% at the pedal. Its an awesome fix. I plan on installing it when wife is out of town - she loves the car except for the throttle.
Thx again for posting this.
Thanks for your kind words! You're exactly right!! Appreciate you adding this info to the thread!!
Hey thanks for the video, just installed mine, loving the difference already
Awesome news! It’s absolutely our pleasure!! Glad you love it!
Very good review. Will you be doing an update? Want to know if it has reliability issues. Thanks!
We definitely plan to do an update soon! That being said, 1 year later the Pedal Commander is still in my rig and I use it every day! Love it!
I got a PC for my new 2023 Off-road premier and will install it soon. Your video was very helpful in deciding on the location, cable routing and settings. What I can't understand is why the cold-air intake isn't available for the '23 yet! I know I could buy an earlier one, but don't want to screw with my warrantees. I gather it will be "approved" soon. Any ideas?
So glad you found our video to be helpful! You know, I honestly have no idea about the intake!
@@TrailGridPro Before I installed the P.C., I watched a few more reviews from people after using the P.C. for a while, I decided to get the PedalMonster, which requires a connection to the OBD port also. The issue that got me was the acceleration of being in reverse, which is disabled by the P.M. Refund already processed, and the P.M. is a little cheaper. Maybe you can do a review of that one also. As for the intake, I trust that it will be "supported" for the '23 4runner pretty soon. No reason it shouldn't be.
Great review Cliff and your 4Runner looks awesome! I’m thinking about getting the same color metallic grey in a Trd Pro and same set up as yours! . I was looking at the black color but I’ve been there and done that color many times in the past with my vehicles. Black is so hard to keep clean and not very forgiving when it comes to swirl marks and scratches.
So, true story .. I wanted black but couldn’t find it ... and now I’m so glad I didn’t, lol! I really like the MGM and I have scratches my limbs and branches and you can barely see them, which is great! I’d definitely go with the MGM if I were you! Thanks for watching!
What did you end up getting? Personally, I think black is the worst color, for the issues of keeping it clean and scratch free mentioned it. I also think it doesn't look great on 4Runners, these have interesting lines and the black kind of hides them. I think the MGM is one of the best colors on these. Mine is silver, I bought it used so I didn't have much choice. The nice thing about the silver is that it hardly shows anything. I think that with the Pro, wouldn't you want to get the exclusive color though? It seems like for resale, the Pros that are the exclusive colors seem to have the highest prices.
@@trailrunnah8886 Well, funny story like Cliffs! I couldn’t find a magnetic grey metallic color 2021 Trd Pro in my area and ended going with a black 2021 again back in November 2020. 😂
As you know the Trd Pro’s 2021 are hard to find as many are already pre purchased and I was at my local dealer here in Texas and they happened to have a black one they just got in no one had pre purchased as of yet. I’m really enjoying it and love it very much in spite of its color. I will probably have a paint correction ceramic coating done to it very soon to help wit the black paint. Thanks for the follow up question and hope you are still enjoying yours my friend.
By the way, have you done any mods to yours yet? I haven’t done any to mine but want to do the Westcott Designs lift like Cliff’s very soon so as to level it out and put bigger tires on. 😀
@@jasonritchey8610 Congrats on finding one, even if it wasn't your first choice in color. Don't get me wrong, a shined up black vehicle look sharp. Luckily you're in Texas, so far as I know you don't have too much bad weather there. Where I live in New England, it rains all the time so as soon as you wash your black vehicle, it's guaranteed to be dirty the next day. When I was a kid I had a black Trans Am, and I would wash that car three times a week and it'still always looked dirty haha.
I've had mine 2 years this week, (it's a 2013 Trail Edition that I bought used) and I haven't really done a ton of mods. Over the last two years I've just changed all the fluids, regular maintenance, and cleaned up the frame, because New England, and I've added RSG Rock sliders, and RCI skid plates. I had this vision that I was going to off road and overlanding with it, but that's yet to happen haha. I also just put a set of General Grabber ATX tires on, in the stock size since I haven't lifted it yet.
I'm on the fence about lifting it, since I don't think I want to go any bigger with tires. Even going from the stock Highway terrain tires to these all-terrains, Ive had a solid 2MPG drop in fuel economy, and the vehicle just feels more sluggish as well. It feels underpowered even with stock size tires on it, I can't imagine putting bigger and heavier tires on it. The fact that some people are running 33s or 34s and say the stock gearing is fine boggles my mind. I feel like mine starts to struggle when it even looks at a hill, never mind if I lived in the mountains.
(I realize I added some weight with the sliders and skids, but no more than having two full-size passengers I'm bored, which is not something out of the realm of everyday use)
I'm really frustrated with the drivetrain in this thing, I'm going back and forth and whether I want to sell it or not. I really like the vehicle, I just get really aggravated with the constant downshifting and how loud the engine is. I don't like the sound of it at all, I'm a V8 guy and this 4.0 just sounds like it's in pain all the time. I don't really care about the 0 to 60 time, I think the HP is fine and it does move when you really flog it. I think the problem with this is that is geared too low and it makes torque way too high in the RPM range. I would just like it to be able to maintain speed on a grade without needing to downshift 2 or 3 gears.
At this point I don't even try to finesse it, if I'm on the highway and hit a decent hill I just put it to the floor till I get 10 over the speed limit and then I let off.
I've never owned a vehicle that required such aggressiveness with the throttle. My last car was a turbo 2.5L 5 cylinder Volvo, and that thing was a torque monster compared to the 4.0.
Okay, enough bitching LOL. Good luck with yours! Overall they're fantastic Vehicles, they just need a drivetrain upgrade.
Anyone have issues with the check engine light coming on due to the pedal commander? My light turned on after a couple months of use and after taking the pedal commander off the check engine light turned off after some time.
We have heard of that - very rare but we haven't quite pinpointed what causes it!
I've had the pedal commander on my 2007 Tundra SR5 for three years and I use it every day. It's the most innovative product I've ever seen and used. In LA traffic I put mine on extreme mode plus 5 and it's absolutely awesome! Instantaneous acceleration and response that I would have never known possible.
The two lower modes I apply as I feel appropriate and I switch between modes throughout the day to make for a better, safer, and more enjoyable driving experience.
Don't use the sport mode around town unless you're going to race like some irresponsible adolescent... But if you do, here's how you do it.. lol. Seriously.. it will cause surging and it's not good.
Return to factory mode when in slow traffic and parking lots, and if you drop your truck off for service!... Embarrassing. I highly recommend this product.
Really appreciate you watching and for your awesome feedback regarding your experience with Pedal Commander!! We appreciate ya! 🙌
Tell us the truth- you pre-disconnected the cable from your accelerator plug. I've been wrestling mine for 15 minutes and the plug is nowhere nearly as easily disconnectable as you made yours look.
Our trucks have been taken apart numerous times which makes it easier!
Amazing video, best customer service ever - thanks big brother; just ordered mine!
Thank you for your super kind words! It was a pleasure speaking with you!! We hope you love it! 🙌🙏
What is the lift & tire size on your 4Runner? Looks great!
Thanks, at this time I has the Westcott Designs TRD Pro lift with 285 70/R17 BFG Mud Terrains.
Hey thank for all the information you gave. I was hoping that I could get your feedback on eco mode. Have you done a test to see if gas mileage has increased driving in eco?
It’s absolutely our pleasure! I know … I totally forgot to add a part about Eco mode! Well, I’ve had the Pedal Commander in my rig for about 2 years now and on average ECO mode gives me an extra 2 to 4 MPGs depending on driving conditions.
I followed those same exact steps but for some reason mine is showing a check engine light and a Trac off light. Any reason why?
Hmmm, the only time I’ve heard of that happening is when the key fob was not far enough away during install. Any luck since?
Great Review! Very informative. What setting would you suggest for off roading?
Thank you for your kind feedback! I typically stay in City +1 in all conditions unless I’m on a long trip and want to save MPG’s and then I’ll go in to Economy.
Thanks for this video. Going to install this on my 2022 4Runner this weekend. Does it save your last setting when you shut off the vehicle? Thanks
Absolutely, it’s our pleasure! Yep, it saves your last setting when starting up!
Excellent review! Thorough, great feedback, and sweet rig! Which taillights are those btw?
Thanks so much! The tails are the Eagle Eye Smoked Tails that I grabbed on eBay. I’m about to swap them for these though: trailgridpro.com/shop/lighting/morimoto-tails-10-4runner/
Got my PC yesterday and probably sending it back on Monday - I cannot get the stock plug off its mount, maybe Toyota locked these this year (2021 T4R)? You guys make it look so easy "just squeeze and pull off" yeah right...
The tab is on the console side of the plug. If it’s too hard to remove with your hands (which is common) use a small flat head screwdriver to depress the tab while pulling up at the same time. That should do the trick!
It took me 45 minutes to get mine off. I guess it took just the right amount of pressure on the passenger side of the clip to release it. I ended up using a small piece of metal between my finger and the plug to get a little Leverage and it came out.
@@artincorona Very nice! Glad you got it out! Yep, that darn plug can be challenging sometimes!
Have you installed a cold air intake system? Just curious. Thanks for the cool video - I am stoked to get this!
Thanks for your awesome feedback! Nope, no cold air intake but it’s on the list of possibilities!
Good video enjoy it informative and clear. Please talk about tires best for the 4 runner for city and mixed driving if you can. Thanks
Thanks for your great feedback! We appreciate it! We can certainly add that to our list of video ideas! 🙌
I’m picking up my 2021 TRD Pro 4 Runner in a few weeks!! I’m planning on getting a Pedal Commander but wanted to ask- whenever I bring my 4 Runner to Toyota’s service Dept for any reason, should I disconnect it? I hear it could void a warranty? Is that true???
By the way, my 4 Runner will be the same color as yours! 😄
I should have read previous posts. Sorry. I see you answered the question already.
@@caryinky I loooove MGM! Great choice!! You’ll have to let us know how you like your 21 when you get it!!
@@caryinky No problem at all! Yea, it’s completely plug and play, cutting no factory wires so you maintain your warranty!
@@TrailGridPro thanks! I watched one RUclips video that said to remove the device before turning the car over for any service at the dealership. So I wasn’t sure.
Cliff,
Can this item be returned after trying it for a few days and for whatever reason not satisfied?
Absolutely, we have a 60-day return policy!
Excellent video and very professional in presentation....I am considering one for my 2022 TRD ORP, thanks for the information
Thank you so much for your kind words! We love PC!
Cliff, a couple of questions: since the install, have you experienced any issues with the drivetrain, transmission, or other components? Does this piece of equipment voids the warranty? The reason I ask is because I just got my 4R and considering installing this piece. Not sure if it’s a good idea for a new vehicle. Thanks
Great questions! I’ve had it installed for a year and a half with no issues. Pedal Commander states their product does not void the warranty due to the fact that it doesn’t cut any factory wiring.
Trying to get one now I found on Marketplace for my 22 SR5. This video made up my mind lol.
Sweet! Glad it helped ya!
Awesome install instructions and review. Made it look easy and it seems like a great addition to my build. I just picked one up through your website. Thanks.
Thank you so much for your super kind feedback and for your order! We appreciate ya very much! You’ll love it!
@@TrailGridPro no problem. So from your experience so far, is there any particular setting that you’d consider a ‘sweet spot’ for your day to day driving?
@@twintips420 Absolutely. I don’t move much out of City +1 unless I’m on a long trip on the highway and I’ll through it in Economy mode if I’m not in a hurry.
@@TrailGridPro great thanks for your feedback
@@twintips420 Absolutely!
On my V8 I dont go more than City mode, scared of speeding tickets 😅
Makes sense!!
a must for 4runner owners
Couldn’t agree more!! 🙌🙏
That color makes the 4runner look like it was machined from some rare earth metal.
Lol, good ole Magnetic Gray Metallic! Thanks for watching!!
With the tint...super slick. Way better than my white TRDOR. Lol
@@stout_tossme7541 nah man, white trd pro with tint is beautiful!
@@WhySooSeriouslol true. Blacked out everything, tint...yes
Will the Pedal Commander make your check engine light come on. I'm thinking about it for a 18 4Runner.
Great question! I’ve been running the Pedal Commander for 7 months and my check engine light has never come on. Let us know if you have any other questions. Thanks!
Great review! I like the ease of installation with this thing. Great point about safety, I have a uphill on ramp to merge onto a normally busy highway on the way home from work, every day I approach it with trepidation because I know I can't get up and out of the way quickly.
I have a specific question about the performance of this thing though. I think my 4Runner is fine around town under 40 mph. The big issue I have with it is its performance on anything resembling a grade. As soon as I hit any grade it loses speed, and more pressure on the accelerator pedal simply produces a downshift and more noise. Press it harder, another downshift, then it will start to accelerate up the hill. I find this incredibly frustrating and annoying, to the point that I'm pretty much ready to put this thing up for sale and move on to something with a real engine.
However, I do like everything else about it, so I would like to be able to keep it. So, after installing this, does it let you dig into the throttle a little bit more before downshifting? I feel like the way it's programmed stock, the accelerator pedal is basically just a controller for the transmission. Maybe if the engine wasn't so loud and thrashy it wouldn't bother me as much, but as it is now whenever it downshifts it just grates on me down to my last nerve.
Thanks for any info!
Thanks so much for your awesome feedback! Much appreciated! So, the short answer to your question is definitely “yes!” I live in a very hilly part of Maryland and have to navigate steep inclines do go various places on the highway and this definitely helps you make the trek uphill faster. In the review I mentioned that it almost seems as if it goes through gears, downshifts, etc. faster - basically everything happens faster, so I think you’ll find it will alleviate your issues - and the good news is if it doesn’t you have 60-days to return it, no questions asked ... so you don’t have much to lose: trailgridpro.com/pedal-commander-shop/
@@TrailGridPro thank you for the quick reply! Also great info, that's exactly what I needed to know. I remember you saying it goes through the gears better, but didn't know how it behaved on grades. Also didn't know that there was a 60-day money-back guarantee, so looks like it's definitely worth a try! I saw your link with the code, so I will definitely purchase through you when I'm ready.
@@trailrunnah8886 Sounds great! Appreciate ya!
Why wait to put it in with doors open and key thob 35 feet away
It was mentioned in our instruction booklet so we just followed the rules, lol.
Does it void the warranty? I would think not.
Nope, according to Pedal Commanders website it doesn’t since it doesn’t cut any factory wires - which makes sense of course. Here’s more info on our site: trailgridpro.com/pedal-commander-shop/
Have you notice a difference on fuel ? Better or worse ?
Depending on the mode! ECO saves, the rest cost a little.
Can you leave this on forever? Does it turn on automatically when the truck is on?
I've had mine in for about 2 years and haven't taken it out. It does turn on automatically if you had it on before powering down your vehicle.
Any improvement with the gas consumption? By the way, thank you for your content
If you put it in ECO mode I've had an improvement of up to 4 MPG on the highway.
Stupid question but I got mine today. I left the key fob 35 ft away and had the door open for 10-15 mins. When I came back, the door light was still on. Is it still okay to install the Pedal Commander?
No question is ever stupid! I believe, but not 100% sure, that the door light stays on regardless. So, I believe you should be okay.
@@TrailGridPro Just installed and the results are phenomenal! I love it! I don't know why I didn't invested in this earlier. Thank you for your review. It really helped me decide whether I was going to purchase it or not. Thanks brother!
@@ragtag121 Awesome! Glad you got it in and you’re loving it!! It’s absolutely our pleasure! Enjoy it!
Does using this void any manufacture warranties on the 4Runner? Also, I have heard that this can “throw codes”. I’m not sure which ones, but has that happened or can it happen for what reason? I’m super interested in getting this. I miss the ‘go’ power. This sounds like it will give the ‘go’. :)
I’ve read this as well, waiting to see the response.
We've had ours installed for 2 years and I've never thrown codes. Also, I've take my vehicle to the Toyota dealership for all of my service (other than brakes which we do in the shop) and I had a couple things replaced via warranty and there were no questions asked even though I have a Pedal Commander and many other mods on my rig.
I didn’t see this in the comments (and admit I haven’t read through them all) but does this void the manufacturers warranty?
Great question! According to Pedal Commander, due to the fact that PC does not cut any factory wires, it does not affect your warranty.
Have you experienced any problems with it? Are you still using it what are your thoughts of long term performance overall
Yep, no problems at all! I've had it installed for 2.5 years and still love it!
Wat do u mean squeeze and pull out?
Squeeze the sides and pull out!
Hey bro, thanks for the review. Do you know if installing this voids the warranty at all? I have a 12 year 125k on mine and don't want to drop the ball by doing anything that can void it.
According to Pedal Commander, it doesn’t void the warranty since it doesn’t cut any factory wires but I’d talk to your warranty company/dealer to be sure.
Thx for taking time to show this. I have some questions - I am comparing TRD Pro to a Jeep Rubicon to decide what to buy. What is the impact on fuel economy in the different modes? Have you done any measurements? If not, will you do so and then update? What does Econ mode do for performance - does that increase mpg or ... ? Is the exhaust sound that I hear on your audio normal - bec it seems loud and prolly annoying after a while - to me. Is there an exhaust drone when you drive at steady speed on freeway - and can you opine on the noise - ie, does it bother you ?
Thanks for watching! Really appreciate it! So, I haven’t noticed any decrease in MPG in City, Sport or Sport+ and have noticed about 2 MPG increase while in Economy. Econ mode provides an even slower throttle response than stock and basically doesn’t let you gun it at all. Really great to conserve gas. The TRD Pro has an upgraded exhaust system which provides the more throaty sound. I actually love it and any time I actually notice it anymore, I enjoy hearing it. I have zero experience with a Rubicon but I can absolutely tell you I love everything about my TRD Pro 4Runner. Thanks again and let me know if I can help with anything else!
What did you get? Just curious, I don't hear a lot of people comparing the two vehicles. Usually people are Jeep people, or Toyota people, LOL. Not including me, I bought the 4Runner because I thought it'd be better daily driver, though I'd rather have the Rubicon LOL.
@@trailrunnah8886 Howdy - I bought 4Runner TRD Premium Venture Edition [cosmetic changes] with KDSS instead of TRD PRO. I think Kdss is better overall on and off road. And it definitely drives better than Jeep - which seemed to small for me too. $runner is great daily driver - way better than Rubicon - but of course the Rubicon 4-door looks the best stock - no doubt - but like I said a bit small inside dimensions.
Thanks for the review Mr. Krasinski
Hahaha! Thanks for watching and commenting!!
Out of curiosity what were the concerns regarding leaving the key fab away from the car and keeping the doors open? Concerned because I followed the directions to leave the electronics to shut off before installing but I watched a different install vid that didn’t include leaving the door open and I forgot to leave my key fab 35ft away. Just wondering what issues I should be looking for in case my mistakes caused a problem??
Honestly, I’m really not sure of the repercussions of not doing both of those - I would assume they want to make sure the ECM is shut off completely in some capacity and perhaps they experiences some percentage of issues when those two things were not done. But, I’m not entirely sure. I did both and have had no issues. I’m sure you could uninstall and reinstall if you wanted to do them both this time.
I think I’ve discovered the issues, I didn’t notice anything at first but coming back to the car tonight after work I found that when I opened the door to the car the inside lighting never came on and same when I exited and shut off the engine.
The other issue which is more important and stressful is the fact now my my high-beams won’t turn on in the forward lock position. It goes directly to auto but won’t go on or stay on permanently themselves. Definitely concerned about those two issues as it has to be a programming error with something in the cars computer right? Do you think I simple uninstall/reinstall will fix it?
Need to try in the morning but what are your
thoughts?
Ironically however the check engine light never came on even though I did the install with my key fab in my pocket but I’m assuming that’s what caused the other issues with the computer
@@shanehuq987 Ah, while I’m sorry you’re experiencing those issues, I’m grateful you shared them with us. You definitely have shared some important knowledge. 🙏🏼
Honestly, at this point I might call your local service department and ask them what the best course of action might be to reverse the couple issues before reinstalling.
Just purchased from TGP on their 4th of July sale. thank you cliff. you guys do some amazing things and all your videos are great. Sport+ @2 for me. just need to understand you have to feather that pedal. no more need to stomp on it from a stop light.
Thanks so much for your purchase and your kind words! We're so happy you find it helpful!!
Damn thats a clean build, I need add those taillights! Just added a video of the 21 pro while offroading. Pedal Commander is my next upgrade. Nice video!
Thanks, man! Really appreciate it! I just watched your first impressions vid when you mentioned the stock throttle response, lol. Yup, PC takes care of that! I’ll watch your newest vid next! Shameless plug alert: We’re now a Pedal Commander dealer, lol, so when you’re ready you can grab one on our site and they’re an additional $50 off now with the code on this page: trailgridpro.com/pedal-commander-shop/
@@TrailGridPro hello sir… I was searching through reviews and saw your video. Verify good, straight to the point. And I would like to order but I don’t see the discount still available, was this is one time thing?
@@FlexsWorld Thanks for watching, Lance and we appreciate your great feedback! Pedal Commander corporate authorizes sales at some points of the year but I haven’t seen one ☝️ that good since then. We do have a new customer coupon code, feel free to use the code TGP5 at checkout to grab 5% off your next purchase with us!
i just bought a 2021 4runner base model what will be the model number for pedal commander i should get?
You’ll need the PC-27. You can grab it here: trailgridpro.com/shop/performance/pedal-commander-10/
Will this unit work on my 2021 Toyota 4Runner Trd off road. Excellent video. Thanks 🙏
Thank you! Yep, it absolutely will work with your 2021. If you’re ready, here’s the link to view the product page on our website (use the code newyear30 at checkout to get another $30 off the sale price - ends tomorrow): trailgridpro.com/shop/performance/pedal-commander-10/
@@TrailGridPro thanks 🙏 I will be placing the order tomorrow. Happy new year 🎊 blessings
@@crazyhorse3275 Happy New Year to you as well!! 🙏🙌🎉🎊
Good video thank you. Question... does this void warranty? Any thoughts on any benefits with gas mileage? Does it ONLY help with pedal acceleration? Thx in advance looking to get my21 soon...
According to Pedal Commanders site it doesn’t void the warranty because it doesn’t cut any factory wires. From my experience with plug and play upgrades, that makes sense. In the video I completely forgot to mention ECO mode, but I’ve been using it a lot since and it definitely saves MPG’s. Most likely a mile or two per gallon. All other modes (city, sport and sport plus) help with acceleration. Thanks for watching!!
@@TrailGridPro thank you
@@robertwehlau8906 my pleasure and enjoy your 21 when you get it!!
Great video, and sexy rig. What % tints do you have on the sides, and on the front?
Thanks for your kind words! 5% all around and 50% on the front!