As a USAF/USN exchange F4 pilot, I did my carrier qualification aboard the USS Forrestal in 1973 before moving on to my assignment on the USS Independence. Wonderful memories!
I sailed on the USS Forrestal for over 2 years (1973 - 1975) and there was no finer ship in heavy weather. Went through a north atlantic hurricane on her and would do it again. Spent my time as an electrican in the engine rooms and auxiliary spaces. She was a very well built ship with a 600 psi steam system. Going to miss her ! For people on the 1974 Med cruise - Was I the last one to figure out what the MUC award was for on your DD-214??
When I was in the navy from 1973 to 1979, the USS Forest Fire did not have a good reputation. A bad luck ship. You did not want to be assigned to it. Also called the Zippo.
You mean you can't PAY to maintain every great ship as a museum! Some people are under the naive assumption we have an infinite amount of money that's somebody else's to pay for all this stuff! Hell, we can't even really afford to operate our active duty fleet, either!
I live close to the USS New Jersey. Keeping her open as a museum is touch and go. Just the cost on maintaining her in good order is immense. How much would a huge aircraft carrier cost? It is not like you can dock them anyplace. Save historic parts if possible and document the rest.
Back in 2010 before I Retired a Group of us Naval Aviators submitted a suggestion to remove the Island Structure of each Carrier before going to the Breakers. An Island would make a better Museum piece than a complete Carrier. The cost Annually to Maintain the Midway, Intrepid and Lexington are astronomical. That Suggestion we Submitted was shot down by Janitor John Cain and his Committee.
They have preserved all the carriers they probably ever will as a museum ship. The Midway CV-41 will be THE LAST carrier museum ship; they won't do this for the nuke carriers because they have to cut from the flight deck all the way to the lowest decks to remove the reactors. The problem with preserving ANY supercarrier is that they contain sensitive naval architecture details that are still used in today's ships; ie, there were a lot of things carried from the Forrestal-class onto at least the JFK (CV-67). The Nimitz-class likely uses design details from Forrestal, too. As far as preserving islands go, that's also a no-go. They're several stories tall and very heavy and hard to transport. They're not as easy to disassemble and reassemble like a plane or tank. Heck, many planes that have been retired were FLOWN to their final resting spots or landed near their museums! They tried to preserve the island of the USS Cabot, the last remaining light-class carrier, but it was scrapped after the museum that kept it as a display piece closed.
Especially when they are robbing new carriers being built of parts needed for the USS Ford to finally join the fleet. You cant tell me ducting, piping, electrical panels, doors, hatches, railings, stairwells, etc..etc.. cant be reused
@@jamescarley4207 when I worked aboard the s.s.norway, the crew got to go and look around the USS Saratoga. Very proud ship. What an honor. Have lots of pictures of her.🇺🇸🇺🇸
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@@murrayperry7111 I served on the Sara back in the early 70's
So many ships, so much history, so much glory...I wish we could preserve them all. What I wouldn't give to visit CV-6, or BB-38, or a host of others. The sad reality is, it's not feasible. Honor their memories, and the stories of those who served on them. Dust to dust, after all.
I certainly no that👍 I served aboard the S.S. Norway many years ,sad to loose her, as well as N.C.L.s other cruise ships , you do get attached to them. But they do ware out. And recycling is a good thing.
This was the lead ship of its class and the first U.S. super-carrier ever built. As an important piece of American history and technology, it rightfully deserves historical preservation.
Far too expensive and a loss overall because very museum ship bleeds donor money from all the OTHER museum ships. Everybody wants someone else to preserve classic vessels but that takes enormous amounts of not just money but specially skilled labor.
The challenge for the Navy is that NOT breaking these ships costs money. A lot more than most people think. You can't just let these ships sit. Steel sitting in water will eventually turn into a large pile of rust. Also, all ships leak, and the older they are, the more leakage will occur. So even mothballed ships require constant electrification in order to run bilge pumps. And not just one like an extension chord running from a wall socket, but large powerful pumps that require a LOT of juice. So keeping one of the behemoths afloat can run anywhere from five to six figures a year - every year - for a ship that will never see action again.
Well why not sell them to countries looking like India, Brazil and argentina. all are in the market for carriers and Brazil alone was looking to spend up to 50 million for one but alas the DOD wouldnt sell
Served on her from Dec 86 to Sept, 89, was a new boot on a piece of history, good memories, some bad, good men, but not all, high seas in the North Atlantic tested me, it was old hat to her, in the end, she served her country well, to the bitter end!
Was on during the fire in an A4 squadron, was back on for a Med cruise. Sorry to see her scraped, should be in a place where people could see the first super carrier.
Come to Boston , USS Constitution, Boston Navy Yard, Fletcher class destroyer, USS Cassin Young. Live oak,canvas Sail,iron cannon. Steel,steam turbine, radar and modern fire control. Sister ship to USS Johnston , the ship that made the Yamato turn tail and run.
That's gonna be a lotta future Lexus cars once all the scrap gets shipped to Japan, so they can sell it all back to us for a big profit. This is a good thing.
I've read a few interesting and thoughtful comments here, but as usual the majority rant and rave without the slightest clue about the subject or what is actually involved in what they propose. I served aboard Forrestal, and was a crew member during the WESTPAC cruise of 1967 when the infamous fire took place. I joined one of the organizations trying to secure her as a museum, but it was not to be. I'm sure one of the major reasons was the immense maintenance cost of a ship this size, even in a non-operational status. Years ago I caught a distant glimpse of the ship on Pensacola Bay. I think it was being used as a training ship at the time. It's the only time I've seen it since arriving back in the States after the fire. It would be nice to be able to visit the ship again, but hey ....reality intrudes again! Sad but true.
I was on the Independence in 70-71. We were docked at Norfolk when the Forrestal tied up across the pier. In our shop we had a 1st class who had been on the Forrestal during the fire. He could not even go and look at it. Just knowing it was there freaked him out so bad that he requested leave just to get away from it.
Per anni ha fatto parte del panorama del Golfo di Napoli , quando era la alla fonda, ammiraglia della 6 flotta, insieme al cacciatorpediniere "Kidd" Onore al merito.
@@curtekstrom6600 Actually, the Forrestal was planned as a straight deck but converted DURING BUILDING into an angled deck ship after experiments were done with other existing American and British carriers. It was probably an Essex-class ship conversion that entered service with an angled deck prior to Forrestal's commissioning. (EDIT: It was the Shangri-La, Essex-class, that recommissioned with an angled deck in January 1955. She was the first active duty, non-experimental ship with an angled deck in US service. About half of the Essex-class ships got angled deck modifications. All the surviving museum carriers have angled deck modifications.) It was the last 2 Forrestal class carriers that were built from keel up to be angled. They converted the first two Forrestals during building into angled decks. They didn't get everything right on the Forrestal class. The elevator locations on the angled deck were suboptimal and they had one by the landing strip on deck that was almost never useable because it interfered with landing operations. There were other issues because they were not originally designed as angled decks. The "big fix" the Forrestals never received unlike the earlier Midway class was relocating the deck elevators to better optimize flight deck operations. The Kitty Hawk fixed most of the flight deck issues the Forrestal class had.
Yes, according to Wikipedia they completed dismantlement in December 2015. All her sister Forrestal class ships are completely dismantled as of 2019, as is USS Constellation CV-64 as of 2017. Word is that Kitty Hawk and Kennedy are next .
@@kwaktak The Constellation and Kitty Hawk were not Forrestal Class ships, they were Kitty Hawk Class. The Kitty Hawk Class was the USS Kitty Hawk (CV-63), USS Constellation (CV-64), USS America (CV-66), and USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67).
On a Tiger Cruise I lost one of my ARMY Dog Tags. How would I contact these people to see if they found it. Good Luck!.. Lol. Captain Robert J Kraczek.
You pay for it then. Everyone wants museum ships but wants someone else to pay for them. It costs millions of dollars a year to maintain a ship that size.
im glad our country has decided to gear up a facility to do this instead of sinking them.I know it costs more to melt them down than it does to make new steel but somehow in a world where everything is recycled just dumping them in the ocean makes no sence.As for the emotional attachment the navy takes young minds and bonds them to their current home with pride beyond anything most people experience and one of the values instilled in every seagoing sailor is never give up the ship.Enlistments change.duty stations change and people move on but when they hear these stories they go back to the day when nothing else mattered but the ship.I visited the new jersey and asked someone if they needed a volunteer to paint.He looked at his workmate in disbelief and chuckled this fool thinks we have paint lol.I served on ddg 995 84 to 88.In that time i visited this great ship twice.Once in diago garcia and once in philly.Both to borrow parts.We went from 600 ships to less than 300 pretty quick.But the maintanance on this relic must be one of the reasons why.She did her duty.Time to see her as what she started as.Steel to be made into something new.
Using ships as artificial reefs is tremendously productive for fisheries. Prep is very expensive but the reefs provide homes for marine life. Most of the ocean is basically an aquatic desert.
maybe you can preserve a piece of history by donating the ship to one of the organizations that want it. after all you got it for 0.01 dollars. the Navy and the breakers are to blame
Suzisweetie too late, it’s gone along with three other super carriers. Two different associations tried to acquire Forrestal from the Navy. One in Philadelphia, the other in Baltimore - the latter included a former CO. I don’t know what the reasons were for refusing both efforts, but it’s wasn’t about the money if they sold it and its sister ship the Saratoga for a penny each. Unbelievable.
I believe the Navy subsidized the scrapping which costs several million dollars. Donation implies a museum which costs many tens of millions of dollars (and a check list) which these organisations almost never come close to raising. In reality if they were not scrapped they would sit by a pier somewhere, rusting away and become a health & safety and environmental menace. That said, maybe Kitty Hawk has some merit in becoming a museum ship condition wise.
Buy it and dont scrap it.A BARGAIN on a superyacht.Your own country,your own version of the Cousteau Society...Theres better ways than just scrapping this price no object piece of history.
They turned the Oriskany, an ESSEX-class carrier, into an artificial reef! They turned the Forrestal's hull into soda pop cans but at least preserved the nameplate. Her nameplate is part of the collection at the US Naval Aviation museum in Pensacola, FL.
I like the way this guy tries to gloss over the fact that he is destroying history!!!!!! The USS Forrestal should've been used like the USS Hornet...... As a solemn memorial to all those who served on her as well as those who departed this world on her........... Abiit autem quod nulla oblivione delebitur 🇺🇲
Gregory Killen These CVA were designed to fight a Nuclear war. Fire is the greatest enemy. Nukes are hot and cause big fires so the ships were liberally covered in asbestos. Asbestos is very expensive to clean up. Visitor would have run the risk of Mesothelioma while touring them. That is why they went to to the breakers.
@@zebradun7407 These ships were not "liberally covered in asbestos" The only things covered(insulated) with asbestos materials were steam pipes. Asbestos insulation is harmless untill you disturb it and create particulates.
@@curtekstrom9531 make them self funding assets !!!!!!! Your telling me they can't find some funding through the Pentagon or some of their black programs ???????? How much did Donald Rumafeld say wentvmissing from the Pentagon budget and just somehow disappeared !!!!!!! Make it a training vessel for young naval recruits, hire it out for special events or public tours , use it as a Hotel ...........All I'm saying is it deserved better than to be cut up in some shitty ship breakers yard in Brownsville !!!!!!!!
@@gregorykillen4564 Take time to ask the Organizations that own the Intrepid, Hornet, Lexington, Midway. How they pay for them. Once the Ship is Stricken from the Records. It's in a hold status. You can't make every Decommissioned Carrier or Ship a Museum.
As a USAF/USN exchange F4 pilot, I did my carrier qualification aboard the USS Forrestal in 1973 before moving on to my assignment on the USS Independence. Wonderful memories!
I sailed on the USS Forrestal for over 2 years (1973 - 1975) and there was no finer ship in heavy weather. Went through a north atlantic hurricane on her and would do it again. Spent my time as an electrican in the engine rooms and auxiliary spaces. She was a very well built ship with a 600 psi steam system.
Going to miss her !
For people on the 1974 Med cruise - Was I the last one to figure out what the MUC award was for on your DD-214??
I was there with you....1972-1974.
My dad served on the Forrestal during the Vietnam war. He also did 2 years.
proud to have been part of her history . I became a Man on The Forrestal 1972 til 1976
What a shame should be a museum... a friend of mine was a Royal Navy exchange pilot on this ship.
When I was in the navy from 1973 to 1979, the USS Forest Fire did not have a good reputation. A bad luck ship. You did not want to be assigned to it. Also called the Zippo.
Sorry folks, you can't save every great ship.
You mean you can't PAY to maintain every great ship as a museum!
Some people are under the naive assumption we have an infinite amount of money that's somebody else's to pay for all this stuff!
Hell, we can't even really afford to operate our active duty fleet, either!
I live close to the USS New Jersey. Keeping her open as a museum is touch and go. Just the cost on maintaining her in good order is immense. How much would a huge aircraft carrier cost? It is not like you can dock them anyplace. Save historic parts if possible and document the rest.
Back in 2010 before I Retired a Group of us Naval Aviators submitted a suggestion to remove the Island Structure of each Carrier before going to the Breakers. An Island would make a better Museum piece than a complete Carrier. The cost Annually to Maintain the Midway, Intrepid and Lexington are astronomical. That Suggestion we Submitted was shot down by Janitor John Cain and his Committee.
They have preserved all the carriers they probably ever will as a museum ship.
The Midway CV-41 will be THE LAST carrier museum ship; they won't do this for the nuke carriers because they have to cut from the flight deck all the way to the lowest decks to remove the reactors.
The problem with preserving ANY supercarrier is that they contain sensitive naval architecture details that are still used in today's ships; ie, there were a lot of things carried from the Forrestal-class onto at least the JFK (CV-67). The Nimitz-class likely uses design details from Forrestal, too.
As far as preserving islands go, that's also a no-go. They're several stories tall and very heavy and hard to transport. They're not as easy to disassemble and reassemble like a plane or tank. Heck, many planes that have been retired were FLOWN to their final resting spots or landed near their museums!
They tried to preserve the island of the USS Cabot, the last remaining light-class carrier, but it was scrapped after the museum that kept it as a display piece closed.
I think that the metal from all these great ships should be a part of all the new ships we have to honor all that has served aboard them.
Especially when they are robbing new carriers being built of parts needed for the USS Ford to finally join the fleet. You cant tell me ducting, piping, electrical panels, doors, hatches, railings, stairwells, etc..etc.. cant be reused
@@jamescarley4207 when I worked aboard the s.s.norway, the crew got to go and look around the USS Saratoga. Very proud ship. What an honor. Have lots of pictures of her.🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@murrayperry7111 I served on the Sara back in the early 70's
Unless the shipbuilding yard is right next to the scrapyard, it would be impractical to ship all of that tonnage cross country. 😕
So many ships, so much history, so much glory...I wish we could preserve them all. What I wouldn't give to visit CV-6, or BB-38, or a host of others. The sad reality is, it's not feasible. Honor their memories, and the stories of those who served on them. Dust to dust, after all.
We can still used since no countries are at war anymore so there is still use for old military equipment until that happens
I wish they also kept BB-36 up
I certainly no that👍 I served aboard the S.S. Norway many years ,sad to loose her, as well as N.C.L.s other cruise ships , you do get attached to them. But they do ware out. And recycling is a good thing.
We did Mediterranean cruise 1973-1975. Hey you carrier sailors ,we didn't get swallowed up even going through the Bermuda Triangle. Bob ✝️
I spent 2 yrs fm Aug 83-Jan 85 as a Storekeeper was sad 2 c her be scrapped .
This was the lead ship of its class and the first U.S. super-carrier ever built. As an important piece of American history and technology, it rightfully deserves historical preservation.
Far too expensive and a loss overall because very museum ship bleeds donor money from all the OTHER museum ships. Everybody wants someone else to preserve classic vessels but that takes enormous amounts of not just money but specially skilled labor.
I served aboard her, 1988-1991. MSC/LSC.
The challenge for the Navy is that NOT breaking these ships costs money. A lot more than most people think. You can't just let these ships sit. Steel sitting in water will eventually turn into a large pile of rust. Also, all ships leak, and the older they are, the more leakage will occur. So even mothballed ships require constant electrification in order to run bilge pumps. And not just one like an extension chord running from a wall socket, but large powerful pumps that require a LOT of juice. So keeping one of the behemoths afloat can run anywhere from five to six figures a year - every year - for a ship that will never see action again.
Well why not sell them to countries looking like India, Brazil and argentina. all are in the market for carriers and Brazil alone was looking to spend up to 50 million for one but alas the DOD wouldnt sell
@@jamescarley4207 No need to aid other countries power projection. It would get scrapped sooner or later anyway.
Gawd Im old. All the ships I was on are now artificial reefs or a museum.
Mine are all gone...sunk or scrapped.
I have a couple of pieces of my carrier U.S.S. Forrestal CVA-59.
The only one I have left I was a Plankowner on. The others went to the bottom or the breakers.
Served on her from Dec 86 to Sept, 89, was a new boot on a piece of history, good memories, some bad, good men, but not all, high seas in the North Atlantic tested me, it was old hat to her, in the end, she served her country well, to the bitter end!
DEXTER P JACKSON 111 V3 DIVISION 84 to 88
Was on during the fire in an A4 squadron, was back on for a Med cruise. Sorry to see her scraped, should be in a place where people could see the first super carrier.
Come to Boston , USS Constitution, Boston Navy Yard, Fletcher class destroyer, USS Cassin Young.
Live oak,canvas Sail,iron cannon. Steel,steam turbine, radar and modern fire control. Sister ship to USS Johnston , the ship that made the Yamato turn tail and run.
That's gonna be a lotta future Lexus cars once all the scrap gets shipped to Japan, so they can sell it all back to us for a big profit. This is a good thing.
Actually, the scrap probably went to China.
I've read a few interesting and thoughtful comments here, but as usual the majority rant and rave without the slightest clue about the subject or what is actually involved in what they propose.
I served aboard Forrestal, and was a crew member during the WESTPAC cruise of 1967 when the infamous fire took place. I joined one of the organizations trying to secure her as a museum, but it was not to be. I'm sure one of the major reasons was the immense maintenance cost of a ship this size, even in a non-operational status.
Years ago I caught a distant glimpse of the ship on Pensacola Bay. I think it was being used as a training ship at the time. It's the only time I've seen it since arriving back in the States after the fire. It would be nice to be able to visit the ship again, but hey ....reality intrudes again! Sad but true.
retro motors The main drawback was the asbestos it had on board, clean up was very costly and that is why virtually no CVA of this era are museums.
I was on the Independence in 70-71. We were docked at Norfolk when the Forrestal tied up across the pier. In our shop we had a 1st class who had been on the Forrestal during the fire. He could not even go and look at it. Just knowing it was there freaked him out so bad that he requested leave just to get away from it.
Brownville Shipbreaking Texas
Per anni ha fatto parte del panorama del Golfo di Napoli , quando era la alla fonda, ammiraglia della 6 flotta, insieme al cacciatorpediniere "Kidd"
Onore al merito.
India would scrap that in half the time!
What a big difference putting 3 year in the army a foot soldier in Vietnam, and go and join the Navy on the FORRESTAL for 2 year s
Was this the first Angel deck carrier in the USS Navy?
@101327 From original Build yes it was. Previous Angle Decks were Retrofit from original Straight Decks.
@@curtekstrom6600 Actually, the Forrestal was planned as a straight deck but converted DURING BUILDING into an angled deck ship after experiments were done with other existing American and British carriers. It was probably an Essex-class ship conversion that entered service with an angled deck prior to Forrestal's commissioning.
(EDIT: It was the Shangri-La, Essex-class, that recommissioned with an angled deck in January 1955. She was the first active duty, non-experimental ship with an angled deck in US service. About half of the Essex-class ships got angled deck modifications. All the surviving museum carriers have angled deck modifications.)
It was the last 2 Forrestal class carriers that were built from keel up to be angled. They converted the first two Forrestals during building into angled decks.
They didn't get everything right on the Forrestal class. The elevator locations on the angled deck were suboptimal and they had one by the landing strip on deck that was almost never useable because it interfered with landing operations. There were other issues because they were not originally designed as angled decks. The "big fix" the Forrestals never received unlike the earlier Midway class was relocating the deck elevators to better optimize flight deck operations. The Kitty Hawk fixed most of the flight deck issues the Forrestal class had.
Still GETTING PAID FROM MY TIME ON THE F.I.D
This was reported 5 years ago. Has the USS Forrestal been completely dismantled now?
Yes, according to Wikipedia they completed dismantlement in December 2015. All her sister Forrestal class ships are completely dismantled as of 2019, as is USS Constellation CV-64 as of 2017. Word is that Kitty Hawk and Kennedy are next .
@@kwaktak The Constellation and Kitty Hawk were not Forrestal Class ships, they were Kitty Hawk Class. The Kitty Hawk Class was the USS Kitty Hawk (CV-63), USS Constellation (CV-64), USS America (CV-66), and USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67).
Caro para construir e caro para desmantelar
I am just thinking about all the copper in it.
That copper was removed before it made the trip to the Breaker Yard. It takes a few years of Prep before heading to the Breakers.
Nickhil Shah... how do you even bid on these projects.
Could have towed it to Bangladesh they would love a challenge like that
On a Tiger Cruise I lost one of my ARMY Dog Tags. How would I contact these people to see if they found it. Good Luck!.. Lol. Captain Robert J Kraczek.
Robert J Kraczek ..that would be an interesting find for certain Sir.
USS Forestall was the first modern supercarrier. It should have been kept as a museum.
You pay for it then. Everyone wants museum ships but wants someone else to pay for them. It costs millions of dollars a year to maintain a ship that size.
Guy says "...other military vessels..." Uh...would those be NAVY SHIPS? Just askin!
MARDET 85-86
"Razor blades".
Send the scrap to be resmelted in the US and then Ford's can make their new trucks out of it and call them the Ford forrestall
im glad our country has decided to gear up a facility to do this instead of sinking them.I know it costs more to melt them down than it does to make new steel but somehow in a world where everything is recycled just dumping them in the ocean makes no sence.As for the emotional attachment the navy takes young minds and bonds them to their current home with pride beyond anything most people experience and one of the values instilled in every seagoing sailor is never give up the ship.Enlistments change.duty stations change and people move on but when they hear these stories they go back to the day when nothing else mattered but the ship.I visited the new jersey and asked someone if they needed a volunteer to paint.He looked at his workmate in disbelief and chuckled this fool thinks we have paint lol.I served on ddg 995 84 to 88.In that time i visited this great ship twice.Once in diago garcia and once in philly.Both to borrow parts.We went from 600 ships to less than 300 pretty quick.But the maintanance on this relic must be one of the reasons why.She did her duty.Time to see her as what she started as.Steel to be made into something new.
Using ships as artificial reefs is tremendously productive for fisheries. Prep is very expensive but the reefs provide homes for marine life. Most of the ocean is basically an aquatic desert.
maybe you can preserve a piece of history by donating the ship to one of the organizations that want it. after all you got it for 0.01 dollars. the Navy and the breakers are to blame
Suzisweetie too late, it’s gone along with three other super carriers. Two different associations tried to acquire Forrestal from the Navy. One in Philadelphia, the other in Baltimore - the latter included a former CO. I don’t know what the reasons were for refusing both efforts, but it’s wasn’t about the money if they sold it and its sister ship the Saratoga for a penny each. Unbelievable.
I believe the Navy subsidized the scrapping which costs several million dollars. Donation implies a museum which costs many tens of millions of dollars (and a check list) which these organisations almost never come close to raising. In reality if they were not scrapped they would sit by a pier somewhere, rusting away and become a health & safety and environmental menace. That said, maybe Kitty Hawk has some merit in becoming a museum ship condition wise.
Neil K add the USS Constellation
too late by the of this posting it was already scraped
DEXTER P JACKSON 111 U.S.S FORRESTAL BABY V3 DIVISION hanger BAY
Buy it and dont scrap it.A BARGAIN on a superyacht.Your own country,your own version of the Cousteau Society...Theres better ways than just scrapping this price no object piece of history.
Take a Damn picture and move on! How about getting American prisoners to dismantle it.
Big A What do you mean “take a picture”. This is American history that should’ve been preserved. But people like you wouldn’t understand.
@@gteagle2004 How much of YOUR money do you donate to museum ships? Naturally you've no clue what they cost to maintain.
Relax, it was turned into a artificial reef.
Nope, finished scrapping in 2015.
They turned the Oriskany, an ESSEX-class carrier, into an artificial reef!
They turned the Forrestal's hull into soda pop cans but at least preserved the nameplate. Her nameplate is part of the collection at the US Naval Aviation museum in Pensacola, FL.
I think old super carriers should be updated until they can’t be updated and should be used because there’re no world wars
Each Carrier has been through many Overhaul and Updates over the Service life of the Carrier. There is a point it can't be done.
clever indian immigrant making money off the us state
where there's muck there's money as the saying goes
I like the way this guy tries to gloss over the fact that he is destroying history!!!!!! The USS Forrestal should've been used like the USS Hornet...... As a solemn memorial to all those who served on her as well as those who departed this world on her........... Abiit autem quod nulla oblivione delebitur 🇺🇲
Gregory Killen These CVA were designed to fight a Nuclear war. Fire is the greatest enemy. Nukes are hot and cause big fires so the ships were liberally covered in asbestos. Asbestos is very expensive to clean up. Visitor would have run the risk of Mesothelioma while touring them. That is why they went to to the breakers.
@@zebradun7407 These ships were not "liberally covered in asbestos" The only things covered(insulated) with asbestos materials were steam pipes. Asbestos insulation is harmless untill you disturb it and create particulates.
And who is going to pay for the Massive Cost to keep it maintained to be a Museum?
@@curtekstrom9531 make them self funding assets !!!!!!! Your telling me they can't find some funding through the Pentagon or some of their black programs ???????? How much did Donald Rumafeld say wentvmissing from the Pentagon budget and just somehow disappeared !!!!!!! Make it a training vessel for young naval recruits, hire it out for special events or public tours , use it as a Hotel ...........All I'm saying is it deserved better than to be cut up in some shitty ship breakers yard in Brownsville !!!!!!!!
@@gregorykillen4564 Take time to ask the Organizations that own the Intrepid, Hornet, Lexington, Midway. How they pay for them. Once the Ship is Stricken from the Records. It's in a hold status. You can't make every Decommissioned Carrier or Ship a Museum.
Give The Forrestal to Australia.
It's already dismantled.
THEY SHOULD SELL THE CARRIER TO INDIA OR JAPAN!!!
Well...Shah must be Indian or Pakastani.
Both those countries have modern carriers
Send to Pakistan!
Gave it away? Hmmm..... that’s nice. 👎🏻