***** I was just saying that as long as someone is comfortable with their voice, they shouldn't feel the need to change it. I definitely have a low voice as a cis woman, and I'm a woman. Period. And so is any trans woman who has any voice.
DancesWithBeauty yes that's what I meant! It's just sad that safety is a thing that trans woman have to take in consideration when it comes to their voice.. The only reason should be what they want for themselves. If they don't care about their voice they shouldn't have to worry about it.
+Schmerp The Lalpacicorn sorry to interject- although im not 100% sure i have a vague memory that everyone hears their voice deeper than it actually sounds because the sound is dulled by the mass of the skull? Ill have to double check, but practically everyone hears their voice deeper than it sounds to others or on recordings.
Thank youuu. There’s SOOO much transphobia in the world. It’s so depressing. A lot of trans women get beat up for using the womens rest room, because our assigned gender at birth.
Cis female but I can deepen my voice to as deep as a grown man if I want to do voice impressions or convincing prank calls and my regular voice is a bit on the deep side. It probably doesn't help that I hang out with guy friends a lot who have a deep voice. I just want to sound more feminine because right now I don't think I do. I sound like a prepubescent little boy.
I'm autistic and don't really like making eye contact but there is something very calming about Stef's. That might sound a bit creepy but something about them is soothing.
Sztermel I googled it and it appears to help with joint pain and asthma which I also suffer with; thank you for the recommendation and I shall continue to look into supplements.
Little Wolf Taima it's because her facial syndrome has her eyes spaced very far apart which makes her look like a baby in a way, you subconsciously trust and want to protect her. Psychology bitch! (I'm sorry you're not a bitch it just sounds good together)
It's so trippy to hear you talk about how your voice is in your throat vs it being in your chest and as a cis woman I've never had that deep vibration from my chest. Whereas if you put your hands over my dads chest (the most "masc" person person I've ever met in my life) you feel his voice vibrate through his chest to the point that it could spill a glass of water lmao. whereas I don't have that?? It's so cool omg
i was thinking the same, my voice (cis woman) is also in my throat. i've never thought about how that's the difference. it'd be interesting to know if this is like... learned behavior or something.
OfficialParagon I'm 100% aware of the reason behind it. I'm just saying it's cool. Was it really necessary to pee on someone's parade to make yourself feel good for a minute?
OfficialParagon my uncle just died. I got into trouble at work yesterday. My older sister recently apologized for touching me inappropriately when we were little but all it did was make me unable to look her in the eye. I'm still being perfectly polite and kind to people though. I understand that people act out, but in my opinion, it's not a free card to take it out on anyone. There's a difference between not being cheerful and not being kind. I'm genuinely sorry if your situation is bad right now though. And I don't think your responses were over the top cruel or anything like that (a little on the rude side perhaps but that's it), but I just disagreed with your last comment to be clear.
OfficialParagon I said that I didn't think your responses were that bad. Even if they were and you said something a lot worse, I agree that people shouldn't take a stranger on the internet to heart. My only point was that I don't think people should make excuses for other people lol. I mean unless it's super hard NOT to take a stranger's comments to heart. Whatever helps you I guess. :)
OfficialParagon you might have a reasoning behind acting like a jerk, but that's never an excuse to be one. If you have personal issues, you need to work on learning how to cope in other ways than being rude to others. Go for a walk, paint a picture, throw a glass against a wall, but get off of RUclips.
I don't want to seem like a douche, but your low feminine voice is really attractive for some reason. I always thought women with 'lower' voices were hot. EVEN BETTER WHEN RASPY. But of course, it's not about me, it's about you feeling better about your own voice. Just wanted to let some (trans)girls out there know that a deep voice can be very sexy! :)
I can't imagine having to train my voice to sound more feminine or masculine (depending on the person) as a cis gender female. I didn't even realized trans women or men have to consciously change their voice to pass, though I should have realized how else would their voice change to match their gender to say. Every time I watch Stef's videos my respect and admiration for transgender people just raise even more.
Yo that's actually very impressive. You have a very natural-sounding, feminine voice now. I've been a subscriber for a long time and I remember you having the voice from that old clip but I swear the change has been so gradual that I've not really noticed until now. It's like night and day.
7mnee 3 You denounced my opinion in the first place by saying i was lying! Dude you're either a really shit troll, or you're truly pathetic enough to be having this argument.
TheContraTenor at the end of the day, she's never going to have an entirely natural voice because she was born male. I was just trying to compliment her on how far she's come and how close she is. And frankly, yeah, her voice IS more feminine than my own. But y'all gotta be rude about it.
I feel like Stef looks a lot more soft and feminine in this video than any of the others. Maybe it's the continued effect of hormone therapy, or the long loose hair and loose clothing, or the softer-coloured makeup in this video. Just my opinion.
The brightness/white is so incredibly high in this video but I kind of like it, it sort of makes you look like the glowing ethereal angel that you are.
It took me a long time to figure out that you're trans, I even forget at times, it's just not something I think about. You've always been an incredibly beautiful, funny, sweet girl to me. I just adore you so much, you're so friendly and personable and you're not afraid to be yourself, you can be silly and crazy and just not give a care about what others think about your personality and the things you do. You're amazing Bread Mom!
I'm actually very interested to see what will come of stefs feminizing surgery, mostly because in this video she honestly looks like the most beautiful woman I've ever seen omg
This reminds me of choir where let's say you sing alto for a year then soprano for 6 years then you try to go to alto the next year you'll struggle to get back to those notes.😊
Hannah Figaro. I found this to be an issue as well until an instructor had me singing one piece in tenor and the next in soprano. i Just had to remember to practice my full range often and it makes reaching notes from different octaves easier.
This is something that I actually have been struggling with for some time. My voice is probably one of the things that causes me the most dysphoria. I love the idea of starting off lower and working my way versus starting off super high and working my way down. So many good tips in both this video and the old one. I really appreciate it so thank you! You’re amazing girl💗💗💗
A little tip when doing that: relax relax relax. It was really tempting to try to force my voice to go just a liiittle bit deeper by straining (it still is sometimes) but that can hurt your vocal chords. Also humming down scales is helpful. And practicing when not wearing a binder will have better results because of how much air is required for low tones. Good luck!!
When I was at a voice training workshop, the trainer said: "So girls, you have to work hard, practice everyday... and you boys: Better start smoking." I don't want to get you into something, but smoking and drinking will make you voice really raspy.
I think it helps to be young. Testostrone continually affects your body and your voice keeps getting deeper. It may be harder for trans women that transition later in life. I started relatively young at 30 and my voice was never very deep to begin with. I still don't feel great about my voice sometimes. I haven't been misgendered in years so it's obviously not as bad as I think it is.
I do record myself sometimes to check how other people hear me. I haven't done that in a while until recently. Even when I think I sound pretty good I'm still kind of paranoid that it's not good enough. Though, as I said I haven't been misgendered in years so it's most likely all in my head.
ickalo It has something to do with being able to hear your voice through the reverb your bones cause. I know that sounds completely ridiculous, but that's why.
I don't really think so. I think if your voice has dropped already, you probably need to train anyway. Some people just don't drop down that far as much as others I think that is where the difference comes from.
***** I never said I didn't train my voice. I do train my voice. Otherwise I would probably be misgendered. It's just that because I'm relatively young my voice hadn't dropped as much as if I transitioned later in life. Old men's voices are deeper than younger men's.
I've been trying to increase my range with singing and I've basically been doing the same thing, trying to visualize my voice lol. Also, the shape of your mouth, teeth, and tongue effects how your voice sounds too.
Valentine Mistress Yeah I saw this documentary about a woman who had to have a vocal cord transplant and she said she still sounds like herself and that the doctor's told her it's because the shape of your mouth, tongue and teeth effect the sound of your voice too.
Im afab, not trans but someone close to me is a transwoman. I have always had a very low voice, and she is concerned about her voice being so low. So we are training together 💙 thankyou for helping us💙💙💙
I love that you're getting more creative with your "just remember, you are (insert confidence booster here)" outros. It summarises the tone of the video in a way and is less of a generic affirmation type thing. Is nice. 💙
Your neck flaps haha oh Stef this is why we love you 😂 but I've noticed that as well I'm a cis woman and my voice isn't super low but it's def not high but whenever I'm at work and answer the phone to talk to a customer my voice naturally goes up way higher. My coworkers always joke I have my real voice then my work voice but I can't help it haha I feel like a lot of us women tend to do this 😜
i have a phone voice LOL! it's way higher and more polite/professional than normal. i normally sound like a high pitched guy, i'm actually a low pitched woman. my phone voice i trained myself to do when i did call centre work, it was like playing a role. as soon as i was off work i reverted to my boyish natural voice. which is actually kind of too bad cause 20 years later i'm always getting mistaken as a guy on the phone LOL.
Im not trans or even looking to change my voice or anything like that, but every time she makes a video like this, I find myself watching the whole thing and being completely focused and interested! thats how you know you're a loyal subscriber!
I'm not trans but had a trans member in my family and Stef helped me relate to someone I loved(she passed this December).Anybody else watching her vids today in honor of her FFS surgery?Love to the breadfam!!
I'm a cisgender woman and I really enjoy your trans "tip" or education videos. You speak with such intelligence and carry yourself so beautifully. I'm obsessed, love you!
your so magical😍 I'm a woman and I feel like I have a deep voice and I'm going to try this myself! Your so insightful I'm going to have a girly voice now!!! love it!!!
I love the fact that your videos are always packed with little tidbits I've yet to know about and even so, in all seriousness, I was belly aching with the mickey mouse voice. Once you said "Ohmygawd~!" lost it. So great. xD You're just such a great person.
I also feel like mood/ emotions play a factor. When you're happy and trying to be friendly/ welcoming, you're more likely to speak a little higher than when you're sad.
I would recommend googling videos of birds speaking, especially the one of the bird speaking Japanese, and watch how it's throat moves when it speaks, because it's very clear when the larynx is moving
This is perfectly explained honestly you pretty much explained it exactly how a vocal teacher would for singing or breathing, if you really focus on breathing you will be able to use what is called your head voice which is where sopranos are - a higher voice, so for starting voice training breathing more as well as visualizing where your voice is coming from will make it incredibly easy to train for higher octaves. Your progress is insane stef, I am so proud of you
I commented similarly on the last voice video you did, but I'm a cis girl and this was extremely helpful! I've been trying to figure out what exactly it is I don't like about my voice and though I figured it out, I didn't really know how to change it. I'm a superrr visual person so the visualizing makes sooo much sense and is so helpful! So thank you :3
Stef I love your videos & I hope that you don't mind my sharing that there are passionate allies in speech-language pathologists (SLP). We care so much about vocal health in the trans and non-binary populations to help their find authentic, identity-confirming voice (and cis people too, when their voice pitch doesn't match their identity either!). Some of what you covered here was great, I loved it! Some of it, though, worried me for vocal health - for example, focusing too much on keeping the voice "in the throat" can create issues down the road. I hope that the idea of seeing an SLP isn't so terrifying that people would avoid it. It's tough enough to get medical attention, I can only imagine how hard it is to take the step to see someone like an SLP. But we care so much & are here for anyone who needs it! Love you, best of luck recovering from the surgery! xo
I'm agender but I find this video helpful because I've been wanting to make my voice more feminine,or more ambiguous, because since I'm DMAB,I have a pretty deep voice,so this is probably the most helpful video I've seen,way more in depth than your last video,love you Steph
Hey Stef. I just wanted to say your optimism and realness is so awesome. It's why I continue to watch and love your videos. Sending you good vibes from Vancouver, BC💕
When you're a cis women and try and do what she says.. trying to speak from my chest its not happening!😩 dunno why i wanna try it lol. Im not transgender. This is so cool and nice steff! Specially with the micky mouse thing and just being so sweet in teaching the girls! For some reason this video hit me in my heart specially with the music, like i feel you girls pain.. love you!❤
Tooma bh I thought I didn't know how but I just realized the voice she's talking about is the fake voice I do when I'm speaking to older people since my voice is weird to me
I've watched so many videos on voice training and this was by far the best. She explained in a way that was easy to grasp. I didnt need to understand music/singer terminology and its easy to practice this anywhere. I've been doing this for 3 days so far and I can now continuously raise my voice a little bit higher.
This video ... I was so amazed by ur beauty ... I'm like speechless OTLThe light and white background literally made it look like heaven and ur an angel 😱❤️😍!!
This is helpful for singers who are trying to grow their vocal range as well! Thank you for making this for those who need or want the help to be comfortable with their voices!
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I find it so interesting to hear how easily you can manipulate your voice now! As a voice student, it's cool to hear your approachable explanation of how you visualize your voice.
This has been really interesting! Being a female with a deep voice I always feel like my voice is too deep and not feminine enough. While a lot of people compliment me on my deep voice too and tell me it's special, I still feel self conscious. I have been mistaken for a man on the phone for example. But then again it's really exhausting to talk in a high voice so most of the time I just let it be.
I used to do that voice pitch up and down run when I worked in telemarketing. Women tend to respond best when you mimic their own voice and way of speaking, younger men tended to respond better to more excited, girlish pitches and past a certain middle age male customers usually respond best to a slightly deeper, mellow pitch. As much as telemarketing sucked as a job, getting to try out different voices all day was fun. You sound really great Stef, especially the over the top Mickey Mouse voice - that's mighty impressive!
I think you sound MORE feminine with a slightly deeper voice. Mariah Carey, Beyonce, and Cher all have deep speaking voices. Just my honest opinion, love you!! 💗💗💗
oh my gosh! Stef, I subscribed to you back when you had around 300 subscribers! I unsubbed awhile back but let me say it is amazing to see how far you have come. You are so radiant and beautiful and I'm proud to have witnessed your growth.
Stef Sanjati omg I'm so dumb! I literally just watched your Voice Training 101 video like two days ago and thought it was a video that had just been uploaded so I was super confused when I saw this video. What a weird coincidence that I just watched your old video and then you upload a new version 😂😂
I'm a trans guy watching you cause you're adorable and to learn more about how trans girls experience life, and this could actually work the other way around for trans guys looking to deepen their voice pre-T! Love your videos!
Wonderful succession to your part 1! Aside from the content I really like the soft purple lighting you used :) so much positive energy coming from you!
Me with my family: *normal voice* "What's up, my fellow cises?" Me with friends who are accepting: *wip feminine voice* "Out of the way, disphoria! There's a new queen in town!!
This video helped so much- after so much practice and trouble, I started to follow the tips here. Now my voice, which used to be a deep, lower voice, gets people on voice chat thinking I'm a girl a foot shorter than I am, and people tell me I should do asmr, haha. So, thank you so much, these tips are extremely helpful, but it takes time! Dont give up, its worth it, y'all!
that talking in an even higher voice when talking to service people thing? that's actually a woman thing, it comes from the same place: the subconscious desire to sound both more feminine and more accommodating.
As a speech therapy student the idea of this vocal training is fantastic, our voices are such a huge part of our identities I really admire the videos you put out for your viewers! xoxo
Thank you so so much, sis. No pun intended. I never noticed where my voice came from until you mentioned it. Similar to how Japanese ppl speak from their diaphragm, as opposed to how Chinese, Thai, etc speak. Youre awesome, girl! Keep slaying, queen!
true, I'm a trans guy and even tho I'm 6 months on testosterone i still get the "feminine" voice sometimes in public and dude DO I GET SCARE OF SOMEONE JUST STRAIGHT UP ATTACKING ME. I feel you girl.
***** of course! But not everyone understands that and those happen to be some of the transphobic people, so I'm afraid of them in that kind of situations
***** Because they don't get us, that's why because they are afraid of us and therfore hate us. It's ok if you don't understand it because it's really dumb, but yeah, they exist and they hate me and so I'm afraid of them.
Just got around to watching this and was immediately reminded that I started getting my voice together last january, and then I stumbled on you shortly after! much progress was made!
I watched the first video for this recently and thought it was so cool and incredible that you were able to to do this, and damn, now you're even better at this! You're really amazing, best Bread Mom 10/10 would recommend!
Thats what she means, its just a concept that most people have an idea of what "feminine" is but its not a concrete thing and can change from person to person. By saying "whats commonly known as" shes talking about the conventional societal ideas about femininity and what it means to be feminine/look feminine, but that might not fit everyones definition of feminine since, like you said, its a social construct.
Its just nice to see someone refer to it that way, letting the viewer know she doesn't necessarily subscribe to the idea of conventional femininity being the only definition, but its useful for describing things because everyone is familiar with our society's definition of it.
This video was amazing. I was always under the impression that the hormone drugs changed the voice. With knowing this info, Im wondering if anyone who isnt naturally talented in singing can learn. I know attempting to sing hurt my throat lol Is this proccess tiresome and makes your throat hurt?
TamaraSheax3 not if you do it properly. It's definitely possible to hurt your voice, just like you can by singing improperly, but take it slow and see what feels comfortable. If it's hurting, make tweaks until it's not. just take it small steps at a time
This is so fascinating, and you explained it really well! I'm a cis girl myself, but I'm not particularly fond of the sound of my own voice, and have been training myself to lower it a bit. Your last video was a big help, and this was a nice edition.
Okay so in the last 30 minutes I have watched three of your videos for the first time, (and subscribed!) and I know I commented on the first and told you you looked amazing, but OMG YOU ARE SO GORGEOUS. I want to reiterate that YOUR EYES ARE SO ENVIABLE. Also, I know I don't personally know you but omg I wish I did. You're wonderful.
The whole high n low then middle. That actually helps me a lot. I been tweaking it but couldn’t figure it out properly. This helps me find a better range. I think my voice is ok but i can tell it isn’t “there” yet. Maybe I’m just being to hard on myself. My thick puerto rican accent helps a lot. Thanks for the tips. I love your voice.
It's so bad that the reason is safety :( it breaks my heart to hear this. I know it is true, but it shouldn't be that way.
Manoelle thank you on behalf of trans women everywhere
BlueGator She's just saying that it's sad that a trans woman could like her voice but still have to train it to not get assaulted or murdered
***** I was just saying that as long as someone is comfortable with their voice, they shouldn't feel the need to change it. I definitely have a low voice as a cis woman, and I'm a woman. Period. And so is any trans woman who has any voice.
DancesWithBeauty yes that's what I meant! It's just sad that safety is a thing that trans woman have to take in consideration when it comes to their voice.. The only reason should be what they want for themselves. If they don't care about their voice they shouldn't have to worry about it.
Manoelle exactly
Not a trans woman but still watches because I love Stef
OhSoVeryKawaii 💕💕💕💕💕💕
A trans man and I still watch because Stef is baller af
OhSoVeryKawaii me either but I watch her all the time. I just adore her.
I'm a trans girl and this will help me
+Kaitlyn Casper same here
Who else find their voice weird when recorded?
Souhail Naji YESSSS!! I hear myself with a deeper voice, on recording I hear a voice extremely high..
+Schmerp The Lalpacicorn sorry to interject- although im not 100% sure i have a vague memory that everyone hears their voice deeper than it actually sounds because the sound is dulled by the mass of the skull? Ill have to double check, but practically everyone hears their voice deeper than it sounds to others or on recordings.
Lola • Thanks for the info! Very helpful to me!
Yes cuz when it vibrates through your body it sounds deeper
YEESS! I thought it was just me I asked my friends and they said my voice did sound weird and my friends just sounded the way
you know you got some mad love for steph when you watch the whole video and you're not even trying to train your voice lol
love you breadmom :)
Kai Naito same!
Kai Naito ME ❤️❤️ lol
I know right. I'm not trans or gay lol I'm to a man and im a mom. but I love her videos
Kai Naito me 😂😂
to every trans girl/boy: you can do it. i believe in u :3
Thank you
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thank you ♥
Thank u ❤
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Not trans. Made me sad when I heard "less likely to be murdered."
You trans folk are so strong. Stay tough.
Thank youuu. There’s SOOO much transphobia in the world. It’s so depressing. A lot of trans women get beat up for using the womens rest room, because our assigned gender at birth.
thank you ♡
Thanks
I'm a girl with a little bit deeper voice. I wonder if this would help me.
Angel Rogers It could if you want to try😊
I think you shouldn't conform to a stereotype of your sex/gender. I'm a cis female and my vocal range is that of a male tenor x
I'm a female and my voice is hella deep but i embrace it. idgaf
Cis female but I can deepen my voice to as deep as a grown man if I want to do voice impressions or convincing prank calls and my regular voice is a bit on the deep side. It probably doesn't help that I hang out with guy friends a lot who have a deep voice. I just want to sound more feminine because right now I don't think I do. I sound like a prepubescent little boy.
That's why I'm here 😅
I'm autistic and don't really like making eye contact but there is something very calming about Stef's. That might sound a bit creepy but something about them is soothing.
Little Wolf Taima try boswellia serrata, it works good for autism/ anxiety
Sztermel I googled it and it appears to help with joint pain and asthma which I also suffer with; thank you for the recommendation and I shall continue to look into supplements.
Little Wolf Taima me too
Little Wolf Taima it's because her facial syndrome has her eyes spaced very far apart which makes her look like a baby in a way, you subconsciously trust and want to protect her. Psychology bitch! (I'm sorry you're not a bitch it just sounds good together)
i am autistic and i approve this message.
It's so trippy to hear you talk about how your voice is in your throat vs it being in your chest and as a cis woman I've never had that deep vibration from my chest. Whereas if you put your hands over my dads chest (the most "masc" person person I've ever met in my life) you feel his voice vibrate through his chest to the point that it could spill a glass of water lmao. whereas I don't have that?? It's so cool omg
i was thinking the same, my voice (cis woman) is also in my throat. i've never thought about how that's the difference. it'd be interesting to know if this is like... learned behavior or something.
OfficialParagon I'm 100% aware of the reason behind it. I'm just saying it's cool. Was it really necessary to pee on someone's parade to make yourself feel good for a minute?
OfficialParagon my uncle just died. I got into trouble at work yesterday. My older sister recently apologized for touching me inappropriately when we were little but all it did was make me unable to look her in the eye. I'm still being perfectly polite and kind to people though. I understand that people act out, but in my opinion, it's not a free card to take it out on anyone. There's a difference between not being cheerful and not being kind. I'm genuinely sorry if your situation is bad right now though. And I don't think your responses were over the top cruel or anything like that (a little on the rude side perhaps but that's it), but I just disagreed with your last comment to be clear.
OfficialParagon I said that I didn't think your responses were that bad. Even if they were and you said something a lot worse, I agree that people shouldn't take a stranger on the internet to heart. My only point was that I don't think people should make excuses for other people lol. I mean unless it's super hard NOT to take a stranger's comments to heart. Whatever helps you I guess. :)
OfficialParagon you might have a reasoning behind acting like a jerk, but that's never an excuse to be one. If you have personal issues, you need to work on learning how to cope in other ways than being rude to others. Go for a walk, paint a picture, throw a glass against a wall, but get off of RUclips.
I don't want to seem like a douche, but your low feminine voice is really attractive for some reason. I always thought women with 'lower' voices were hot. EVEN BETTER WHEN RASPY.
But of course, it's not about me, it's about you feeling better about your own voice. Just wanted to let some (trans)girls out there know that a deep voice can be very sexy! :)
lazy fukin puddin sultry smokers voice😍
lazy fukin puddin creep
Grape Stain....female smoker voice is the MOST disgusting thing!!!
thank you for saying this, i'm a cis girl but my voice is raspy as fucc
smoker voices are kinda gross
I can't imagine having to train my voice to sound more feminine or masculine (depending on the person) as a cis gender female. I didn't even realized trans women or men have to consciously change their voice to pass, though I should have realized how else would their voice change to match their gender to say. Every time I watch Stef's videos my respect and admiration for transgender people just raise even more.
You wouldn't have to to train your voice if you went male.
Whit DoesStuff you don't, why?
Kayleigh L Testosterone deepens your voice. That's what happens during male puberty.
Whit DoesStuff ahh, I see. Thank you for telling me.
Yo that's actually very impressive. You have a very natural-sounding, feminine voice now. I've been a subscriber for a long time and I remember you having the voice from that old clip but I swear the change has been so gradual that I've not really noticed until now. It's like night and day.
7mnee 3 I'm not lying, her voice is more feminine than mine (I'm a girl.) What's the matter, did you not get any love at christmas?
7mnee 3 You denounced my opinion in the first place by saying i was lying! Dude you're either a really shit troll, or you're truly pathetic enough to be having this argument.
TheContraTenor at the end of the day, she's never going to have an entirely natural voice because she was born male. I was just trying to compliment her on how far she's come and how close she is. And frankly, yeah, her voice IS more feminine than my own. But y'all gotta be rude about it.
TheContraTenor Eh I've stopped caring
I visualize it as vocal tucking. It's like you're pushing your voice out of your chest and higher up into the back of your throat.
that's good actually
😊
I feel like Stef looks a lot more soft and feminine in this video than any of the others. Maybe it's the continued effect of hormone therapy, or the long loose hair and loose clothing, or the softer-coloured makeup in this video. Just my opinion.
The lack of eyeliner is definitely a factor.
cazzawee Ah, true. Lighter makeup around the eyes and lips makes you look more girly.
Ezy Teri Reddy There seems to be a pink/purple light coming from Stef's left as well, adds a nice effect on her cheek and hair
Ezy Teri Reddy I agree 100%
Ezy Teri Reddy I agree
The brightness/white is so incredibly high in this video but I kind of like it, it sort of makes you look like the glowing ethereal angel that you are.
It's disgusting that this has to be done for some people just to feel safe... what is wrong with the world.
Izobel B. alot, alot is wrong with the world
???
You’re a Catfish, just stop dude Izobel
Loco Bandito: what’s wrong with the world? you, XD hahahahaha! People like you suck.
They don't have to, they want to. That's what transition is about.
Btw none of us should feel safe. Every day we are walking closer to our inevitable death.
It took me a long time to figure out that you're trans, I even forget at times, it's just not something I think about. You've always been an incredibly beautiful, funny, sweet girl to me. I just adore you so much, you're so friendly and personable and you're not afraid to be yourself, you can be silly and crazy and just not give a care about what others think about your personality and the things you do. You're amazing Bread Mom!
I'm a cis girl but lol I hate my voice.
Cheez whiz Is important same. I have a low voice . Wish it was more feminine
Cheez whiz Is important Now you know what to do. 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
Cheez whiz Is important me too except my voice is too high pitched
I always get told I have a "manly" voice. I'm pretty sure I don't, I'm just a women with a low voice ¬_¬
LittleDeadFrank its not even like my voice is just low, I just don't sound like a girl.
I'm actually very interested to see what will come of stefs feminizing surgery, mostly because in this video she honestly looks like the most beautiful woman I've ever seen omg
GIRL, YOU LOOK SO ANGELIC
*make up and plastic surgery*
The comments. Hahahahahah
@@actualbliss and she looks angelic🤚🏼
@@bandyyy4536 beauty is natural
@bliss beauty is subjective
This reminds me of choir where let's say you sing alto for a year then soprano for 6 years then you try to go to alto the next year you'll struggle to get back to those notes.😊
Hannah Figaro. I found this to be an issue as well until an instructor had me singing one piece in tenor and the next in soprano. i Just had to remember to practice my full range often and it makes reaching notes from different octaves easier.
YES!
This is something that I actually have been struggling with for some time. My voice is probably one of the things that causes me the most dysphoria. I love the idea of starting off lower and working my way versus starting off super high and working my way down. So many good tips in both this video and the old one.
I really appreciate it so thank you! You’re amazing girl💗💗💗
I'm trans masculine but I'm pre T and I have huge amounts of voice dysphoria so I think I'm going to try this method but backwards.
A little tip when doing that: relax relax relax. It was really tempting to try to force my voice to go just a liiittle bit deeper by straining (it still is sometimes) but that can hurt your vocal chords. Also humming down scales is helpful. And practicing when not wearing a binder will have better results because of how much air is required for low tones. Good luck!!
When I was at a voice training workshop, the trainer said: "So girls, you have to work hard, practice everyday... and you boys: Better start smoking." I don't want to get you into something, but smoking and drinking will make you voice really raspy.
Oliver Deepsleep same
Something that really helped with me is singing opera from my diaphram, it sounds really stupid but its helped me a lot
I think it helps to be young. Testostrone continually affects your body and your voice keeps getting deeper. It may be harder for trans women that transition later in life. I started relatively young at 30 and my voice was never very deep to begin with. I still don't feel great about my voice sometimes. I haven't been misgendered in years so it's obviously not as bad as I think it is.
Yeah, I remember hearing somewhere that your voice is actually higher than it sounds in your own head.
I do record myself sometimes to check how other people hear me. I haven't done that in a while until recently. Even when I think I sound pretty good I'm still kind of paranoid that it's not good enough. Though, as I said I haven't been misgendered in years so it's most likely all in my head.
ickalo It has something to do with being able to hear your voice through the reverb your bones cause. I know that sounds completely ridiculous, but that's why.
I don't really think so. I think if your voice has dropped already, you probably need to train anyway. Some people just don't drop down that far as much as others I think that is where the difference comes from.
***** I never said I didn't train my voice. I do train my voice. Otherwise I would probably be misgendered. It's just that because I'm relatively young my voice hadn't dropped as much as if I transitioned later in life. Old men's voices are deeper than younger men's.
I've been trying to increase my range with singing and I've basically been doing the same thing, trying to visualize my voice lol. Also, the shape of your mouth, teeth, and tongue effects how your voice sounds too.
The shapes can affect your voice? I never knew that :O
Valentine Mistress Yeah I saw this documentary about a woman who had to have a vocal cord transplant and she said she still sounds like herself and that the doctor's told her it's because the shape of your mouth, tongue and teeth effect the sound of your voice too.
Im afab, not trans but someone close to me is a transwoman. I have always had a very low voice, and she is concerned about her voice being so low. So we are training together 💙 thankyou for helping us💙💙💙
you're so classy and sweet. I like how you approach trans topics with eloquence and kindness. it really reaches out to people. :)
LOL I'm born female and this is actually pretty helpful for me cos my voice is trash.
Chihuahua yeah samee
This video is so calming?? Your voice + the background music almost makes it sound like a relaxation tape or guided meditation.
Emil I totally feel you with that guided meditation thing! Super relaxing..
I love that you're getting more creative with your "just remember, you are (insert confidence booster here)" outros. It summarises the tone of the video in a way and is less of a generic affirmation type thing. Is nice. 💙
Will this concept work for cis women with a deeper voice as well?
Willow76ny yes
Mulligan thank you. :)
Willow76ny voice training works for anyone, it's pretty cool
I'm so happy, all of these MtF-trainings that can make you more feminine as a cis-woman is awesome to discover
I would expect it probably would
it is amazing how your voice sounds so beautifly natural. I love you.
It might sound natural but it is not....
@@deeznuts-lx1us and?
@@szugzz so.... IT is gay duh lmfao
@@deeznuts-lx1us you are more dumb than is enough
@@szugzz what?
Your neck flaps haha oh Stef this is why we love you 😂 but I've noticed that as well I'm a cis woman and my voice isn't super low but it's def not high but whenever I'm at work and answer the phone to talk to a customer my voice naturally goes up way higher. My coworkers always joke I have my real voice then my work voice but I can't help it haha I feel like a lot of us women tend to do this 😜
Kali_Dash oh my gosh my voice gets SO high and I can't help it! I call it my customer service voice lol
Ana omg me too, hahaha 😂😀
Haha, nice story :)
i have a phone voice LOL! it's way higher and more polite/professional than normal. i normally sound like a high pitched guy, i'm actually a low pitched woman. my phone voice i trained myself to do when i did call centre work, it was like playing a role. as soon as i was off work i reverted to my boyish natural voice. which is actually kind of too bad cause 20 years later i'm always getting mistaken as a guy on the phone LOL.
Samee! I have my work voice and my normal voice xD
Im not trans or even looking to change my voice or anything like that, but every time she makes a video like this, I find myself watching the whole thing and being completely focused and interested! thats how you know you're a loyal subscriber!
As a trans guy, I just flipped what you said and this helps me too! So thanks :)
you look like an ANGEL in this video omg your skin is absolutely flawless
The background music is relaxing AF lol
I was just watching your old videos and oh my word, your voice has changed SO much. You have come so far, but still as beautiful as always ❤
This is so random but I'm so excited for your ffs in less than 2 days 😭❤️💕
Wow, Stef. You have evolved soooo much in the last year. You're a beautiful and strong woman and I'm so incredibly happy for you.
I'm not trans but had a trans member in my family and Stef helped me relate to someone I loved(she passed this December).Anybody else watching her vids today in honor of her FFS surgery?Love to the breadfam!!
I'm a cisgender woman and I really enjoy your trans "tip" or education videos. You speak with such intelligence and carry yourself so beautifully. I'm obsessed, love you!
your so magical😍 I'm a woman and I feel like I have a deep voice and I'm going to try this myself! Your so insightful I'm going to have a girly voice now!!! love it!!!
I love the fact that your videos are always packed with little tidbits I've yet to know about and even so, in all seriousness, I was belly aching with the mickey mouse voice. Once you said "Ohmygawd~!" lost it. So great. xD You're just such a great person.
I also feel like mood/ emotions play a factor. When you're happy and trying to be friendly/ welcoming, you're more likely to speak a little higher than when you're sad.
"Oh I would like to pay with a MasterCard please" 😂
I would recommend googling videos of birds speaking, especially the one of the bird speaking Japanese, and watch how it's throat moves when it speaks, because it's very clear when the larynx is moving
This is perfectly explained honestly you pretty much explained it exactly how a vocal teacher would for singing or breathing, if you really focus on breathing you will be able to use what is called your head voice which is where sopranos are - a higher voice, so for starting voice training breathing more as well as visualizing where your voice is coming from will make it incredibly easy to train for higher octaves. Your progress is insane stef, I am so proud of you
Fingers crossed for your surgery tomorrow! I know everything will be fine. I'm so happy for you! Keep us updated
I commented similarly on the last voice video you did, but I'm a cis girl and this was extremely helpful! I've been trying to figure out what exactly it is I don't like about my voice and though I figured it out, I didn't really know how to change it. I'm a superrr visual person so the visualizing makes sooo much sense and is so helpful! So thank you :3
Stef I love your videos & I hope that you don't mind my sharing that there are passionate allies in speech-language pathologists (SLP). We care so much about vocal health in the trans and non-binary populations to help their find authentic, identity-confirming voice (and cis people too, when their voice pitch doesn't match their identity either!). Some of what you covered here was great, I loved it! Some of it, though, worried me for vocal health - for example, focusing too much on keeping the voice "in the throat" can create issues down the road. I hope that the idea of seeing an SLP isn't so terrifying that people would avoid it. It's tough enough to get medical attention, I can only imagine how hard it is to take the step to see someone like an SLP. But we care so much & are here for anyone who needs it! Love you, best of luck recovering from the surgery! xo
YOU HAVE GROWN SO MUCH IN THE PAST TWO YEARS YOURE SO BEAUTIFUL I LOVE YOU
I'm agender but I find this video helpful because I've been wanting to make my voice more feminine,or more ambiguous, because since I'm DMAB,I have a pretty deep voice,so this is probably the most helpful video I've seen,way more in depth than your last video,love you Steph
Alix Silvestre dafuq? Agender? You are a fucking girl
@@Fragkoumarina shut up.
@@Fragkoumarina she mean androgynous aka gender neutral meaning sound like a mix of a man and woman simultaneously
Hey Stef. I just wanted to say your optimism and realness is so awesome. It's why I continue to watch and love your videos. Sending you good vibes from Vancouver, BC💕
When you're a cis women and try and do what she says.. trying to speak from my chest its not happening!😩 dunno why i wanna try it lol. Im not transgender. This is so cool and nice steff! Specially with the micky mouse thing and just being so sweet in teaching the girls! For some reason this video hit me in my heart specially with the music, like i feel you girls pain.. love you!❤
Tooma bh I thought I didn't know how but I just realized the voice she's talking about is the fake voice I do when I'm speaking to older people since my voice is weird to me
I've watched so many videos on voice training and this was by far the best. She explained in a way that was easy to grasp. I didnt need to understand music/singer terminology and its easy to practice this anywhere. I've been doing this for 3 days so far and I can now continuously raise my voice a little bit higher.
This video ... I was so amazed by ur beauty ... I'm like speechless OTLThe light and white background literally made it look like heaven and ur an angel 😱❤️😍!!
This is helpful for singers who are trying to grow their vocal range as well! Thank you for making this for those who need or want the help to be comfortable with their voices!
Ahh you are so beautiful I love u
Sonia gurrrrl I didn't know you watched stef 💖
Sonia Elsie omg Sonia you like the best youtubers
Sonia Elsie Sonia omg I love your ASMR ❣️❣️❣️
I\'m not sure but ,if anyone else needs to find out about changing male voice to female try Loctavan Female Voice Strategy (do a search on google ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my co-worker got amazing success with it.
Cheers for the Video clip! Excuse me for chiming in, I would love your thoughts. Have you tried - Gonameron Voice Vicariousness (search on google)? It is an awesome exclusive product for learning how to achieve a passable feminine voice in the next 30 Days minus the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my friend Sam got great results with it.
Omg, going so smoothly through those different pitches! That was magical.
your hair looks AMAZING GURL! slay queen xoxo
I find it so interesting to hear how easily you can manipulate your voice now! As a voice student, it's cool to hear your approachable explanation of how you visualize your voice.
This has been really interesting! Being a female with a deep voice I always feel like my voice is too deep and not feminine enough. While a lot of people compliment me on my deep voice too and tell me it's special, I still feel self conscious. I have been mistaken for a man on the phone for example. But then again it's really exhausting to talk in a high voice so most of the time I just let it be.
Timbre is what makes the voice either Masculine Feminine or Androgynous not pitch women can have deep voices and still sound female
That other voice training video was the first of your videos I ever saw. Really glad I stuck around ^^
I'm not trans but gosh I love all your video x
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I used to do that voice pitch up and down run when I worked in telemarketing.
Women tend to respond best when you mimic their own voice and way of speaking, younger men tended to respond better to more excited, girlish pitches and past a certain middle age male customers usually respond best to a slightly deeper, mellow pitch.
As much as telemarketing sucked as a job, getting to try out different voices all day was fun.
You sound really great Stef, especially the over the top Mickey Mouse voice - that's mighty impressive!
I think you sound MORE feminine with a slightly deeper voice. Mariah Carey, Beyonce, and Cher all have deep speaking voices. Just my honest opinion, love you!! 💗💗💗
oh my gosh! Stef, I subscribed to you back when you had around 300 subscribers! I unsubbed awhile back but let me say it is amazing to see how far you have come. You are so radiant and beautiful and I'm proud to have witnessed your growth.
Wait I'm confused, is this a complete re-do? Aww I liked the other video so much! Still love you xx
Not a redo, just a revisit!
Stef Sanjati omg I'm so dumb! I literally just watched your Voice Training 101 video like two days ago and thought it was a video that had just been uploaded so I was super confused when I saw this video. What a weird coincidence that I just watched your old video and then you upload a new version 😂😂
MMT lol same!
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I'm a trans guy watching you cause you're adorable and to learn more about how trans girls experience life, and this could actually work the other way around for trans guys looking to deepen their voice pre-T! Love your videos!
I'd love to hear her sing sometime.
shadowhowler OMG YESSS
Wonderful succession to your part 1! Aside from the content I really like the soft purple lighting you used :) so much positive energy coming from you!
Me with my family: *normal voice* "What's up, my fellow cises?"
Me with friends who are accepting: *wip feminine voice* "Out of the way, disphoria! There's a new queen in town!!
I love your positivity at the end of your videos. It really does make me feel much better about myself. you and JVN just radiate so much positivity!
I’m not trans but I am a female that is very insecure of my voice so thank you very much for this video
Your Mickey Mouse voice killed me it was so funny and cute.
You're eyebrows are giving me life girl
Kim it's *your
This video helped so much- after so much practice and trouble, I started to follow the tips here. Now my voice, which used to be a deep, lower voice, gets people on voice chat thinking I'm a girl a foot shorter than I am, and people tell me I should do asmr, haha. So, thank you so much, these tips are extremely helpful, but it takes time! Dont give up, its worth it, y'all!
that talking in an even higher voice when talking to service people thing? that's actually a woman thing, it comes from the same place: the subconscious desire to sound both more feminine and more accommodating.
As a speech therapy student the idea of this vocal training is fantastic, our voices are such a huge part of our identities I really admire the videos you put out for your viewers! xoxo
Thank you that was so amazing Stef
i love seeing in my notifications that Stef has posted a new video, It fills me with happiness ^_^
Oh my gosh she looks so pretty
Thank you so so much, sis. No pun intended. I never noticed where my voice came from until you mentioned it. Similar to how Japanese ppl speak from their diaphragm, as opposed to how Chinese, Thai, etc speak. Youre awesome, girl! Keep slaying, queen!
true, I'm a trans guy and even tho I'm 6 months on testosterone i still get the "feminine" voice sometimes in public and dude DO I GET SCARE OF SOMEONE JUST STRAIGHT UP ATTACKING ME. I feel you girl.
ー黒猫 because transphobic people exist sadly
ー黒猫 because transphobic people exist sadly
***** of course! But not everyone understands that and those happen to be some of the transphobic people, so I'm afraid of them in that kind of situations
***** Because they don't get us, that's why because they are afraid of us and therfore hate us. It's ok if you don't understand it because it's really dumb, but yeah, they exist and they hate me and so I'm afraid of them.
Just got around to watching this and was immediately reminded that I started getting my voice together last january, and then I stumbled on you shortly after! much progress was made!
Wow, you trained your voice amazing! This video was so interesting!! Xoxo
I watched the first video for this recently and thought it was so cool and incredible that you were able to to do this, and damn, now you're even better at this! You're really amazing, best Bread Mom 10/10 would recommend!
I love how you said what is commonly known as feminine :)
Mandy Tardif it merely a concept, how different is it when you say 'it's feminine' or 'it's commonly known as feminine'
Thats what she means, its just a concept that most people have an idea of what "feminine" is but its not a concrete thing and can change from person to person. By saying "whats commonly known as" shes talking about the conventional societal ideas about femininity and what it means to be feminine/look feminine, but that might not fit everyones definition of feminine since, like you said, its a social construct.
Its just nice to see someone refer to it that way, letting the viewer know she doesn't necessarily subscribe to the idea of conventional femininity being the only definition, but its useful for describing things because everyone is familiar with our society's definition of it.
oh my gosh this natural look is so good on you! (I love love love your darker/heavier/more colorful make up too!!)
love your look here! the blonde hair is so cute!
"I would like to pay with a MasterCard please" I'M WEAK
I'm not trans but I feel like I can use these lessons for singing :D thanks Stef
This is the first and only time it's been explained to me where I actually get it. Thank you.
This video was amazing. I was always under the impression that the hormone drugs changed the voice. With knowing this info, Im wondering if anyone who isnt naturally talented in singing can learn. I know attempting to sing hurt my throat lol Is this proccess tiresome and makes your throat hurt?
TamaraSheax3 not if you do it properly. It's definitely possible to hurt your voice, just like you can by singing improperly, but take it slow and see what feels comfortable. If it's hurting, make tweaks until it's not. just take it small steps at a time
This is so fascinating, and you explained it really well! I'm a cis girl myself, but I'm not particularly fond of the sound of my own voice, and have been training myself to lower it a bit. Your last video was a big help, and this was a nice edition.
You're 2 days away from your surgery, how are you feeling Stef??!
Okay so in the last 30 minutes I have watched three of your videos for the first time, (and subscribed!) and I know I commented on the first and told you you looked amazing, but OMG YOU ARE SO GORGEOUS. I want to reiterate that YOUR EYES ARE SO ENVIABLE. Also, I know I don't personally know you but omg I wish I did. You're wonderful.
This is so interesting, I always thought that hormone therapy had something to do with the voice. Very neat!
That would be so much easier lol
Its annoying it helps with ftm but not mtf
The whole high n low then middle. That actually helps me a lot. I been tweaking it but couldn’t figure it out properly. This helps me find a better range. I think my voice is ok but i can tell it isn’t “there” yet. Maybe I’m just being to hard on myself. My thick puerto rican accent helps a lot. Thanks for the tips. I love your voice.