I'm Asian , been dating girls outside my race since I was in high school, they are just like any other girls, a lot of these girls are just waiting for a guy to talk to them. Plus you have to have the self confidence in yourself. Alot of asian guys don't approach other races because the fear of rejection.
You are correct. I'm not asian, but went to a hood school in texas, and there were like 2-3 asian dudes getting tons of tail. They had attributes most asian guys do not have. #1 is humor, not caring about anyone getting offended. Super social, had friends of every race (more exposure to different races of women), and not afraid of taking an L (rejection).
@@jerrymylove1754 not necessarily weak, just a lack in confidence in one self. Its like fishing to me, you probably won't catch any fish on your first cast, just have to keep on trying.
In the movie "Romeo must die". There was supposed to be a kissing scene at the end of the movie, but the director said that he "Didn't want the world to be disgusted by watching a beautiful black girl kissing a asian man". There is so much movies about a white guy saving the day and ends up with a asian girl, but never a asian guy saving the day and ends up with a white girl. Hollywood need to stop with their asian girl fetish.
That's an easy one. Hollywood directors and staff are majority Jewish and are actually deathly afraid of 'their' women falling for Asian guys like Bruce Lee and Sessue Hayakawa, one of the first big heartthrobs in Hollywood.
So literally, the black guy that created Romeo must die was cock blocking because he felt that black people in Asian people shouldn’t be together that’s literally what it is
Bart’s explanation was spot on! In my schools the Spanish kids used to stay together but that was due to the language barrier. Thank God I also grew up in a very diverse community and I never felt discriminated or felt left out.
Spanish kids?? from Spain??..... or do you mean Latino/Hispanic?? Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Colombian??. We are not Spanish. but to go onto your point, that's interesting, because most Mexican-Amer hang out with Black Amer. most Asians are known to be a cliquey group, that ONLY hang out with one another. not a welcoming or warm sqaud.
@@Nik29austria bro i see you with trolling comments left and right. but No, Latin America is not half white. dude, a quick google search will educate you. there are millions and millions of Indigenous full or majority Indigenous blood (such as myself, 63%, 12% African, and 25% Spanish-Euro), majority of 95% of the 12 million + slaves sent to the Western Hemisphere went to Latin America (only 5% to USA), and Spanish are the other mix. so no, not half. that is your troll uneducated assumption, and Half still is not full if we're just going through your troll comment. We still wouldn't be Spanish, moreso Latino-mixed. not from Spain.
Glad I found this channel. So I came to America in 79 from S. Korea. And for the longest time, I believed in the stereo type because it was constantly reinforced by the fact that a lot of Asian women would only date non-Asian men. I grew-up in San Jose, CA so this is what I observed. Long story short, I moved to Southwest Virginia for school and suddenly I found myself in a new environment surrounded by white and black people and I gotta admit, it was a culture shock. But something else happened, I started interacting with people from different cultures and started making connections. Also, I was probably at the happiest during those three years and because I was happy, girls started responding to that inner joy/happiness and optimism vibe I had around me. Its how I met my wife, she's Brazilian, and we married and we have built a life together 🙂. I think when a guy is happy and just enjoying life, this is what can make a woman notice you. Let's be honest, would you want to hang-out with a friend who was always depressed or down or just plain unhappy? No. Living in San Jose was doing that to me. I had to move to the East Coast to realize how unhappy I was in California. God bless you all.
I immigrated from Taiwan to the San Francisco Bay area as a youth, lived in San Jose for 2 short years. I dated many women of all races in my life. I'm in my 50s now. White, black, Asian, you name it. I really liked a Kazastan woman, actually. I'm happily married to a Filipina. Beautiful and traditional. We have 3 children. I have never felt Insecure dating, nor racism. I believe in myself as a man of value and standards. I'm 5 foot 10, not even 6 foot. I just think you have to know your worth comes from within yourself, not worthless idiots.
So you met have slept with just one woman in your life and you are inferring as that is how every woman responds? Moreover, the Asian or South Asian women date and sleep with the majority Anglo-Saxon or German background men of USA and you found a foreigner interested in you? And by that you are inferring that is how the majority Anglo-Saxon or German background women respond to Asian or South Asian men? No, sir you didn't make it in being accepted by American women.
Episodes like these are some of my favorite from this channel. Good topic, great conversation, attentive listening, and informative discussion. Thank you
I grew up in a small town in the Midwest where Asians were practically like a mystical unicorn. I often got mistaken for being Mexican or Native American. It was so rare for white people to see Asians in real life to the point that Asian stereotypes became useless in social interactions lol. Never really felt any type of struggle or “guilt” in dating white girls since they were the only option around me. I didn’t even know some Asians in the west coast had this much inferiority complex in their identity until I moved over there for college.
No joke. I didn't even see girls at places here for the longest I wasn't big on internet so I was just watching basic tv for girls. Makes you wonder if that was on purpose or not lol.
Damn. Well, for what it's worth, they say that Indigenous Mexicans/Native Americans descend from Asian Mongolians. So everyone's related in the long run.
I grew in the Midwest (Chicago/Suburbs) us Asians are exotic there and the white girls seem to be more receptive to dating us. It helps I’m tall for a Asian man at 6ft and athletic who isn’t socially awkward. Now I live in California and it could be the social media age but your just another Asian here it’s nothing special for a white girl or just even some Asian girls don’t want to date Asian men unless you are a super outlier. I dated a Irish girl from Ireland for 8 years and I’m sure that exotic card played some part of my attraction for her.
Similar experience. The only thing I felt weird about was because my parents were immigrants and didn't know shit about American culture. But in terms of talking and dating white girls it wasn't that big of a deal. I studied hard but I also played sports. I went to college in the East coast, and felt weird with all the cliques.
can you guys talk about asian gangs cause the gang culture in la during the 90’s to early 2000’s was wild and unique to la and i know bart and joe have their stories
Was dating black and white girls as long as I can remember. But I am the athlete type one guy was describing. Also I'm not afraid of rejection. I'm currently with a Mexican woman. Like Jay Z said, "I love girls girls girls girls, girls all over the world."
I’m glad I grew up in diverse public school and it was kind of normal so I ended up dating a Spanish girl and the vibes just clicked more with me. I think it’s just knowing yourself as a person like Bart said then understanding cultures and communication then their way of flirting. I was solely focused on girls so I didn’t see color lol personality is what makes your heart happy. Awesome discussion guys 👏 and welcome back Geo !!!
So you met have slept with just one woman in your life and you are inferring as that is how every woman responds? Moreover, the Asian or South Asian women date and sleep with the majority Anglo-Saxon or German background men of USA and you found a foreigner interested in you? And by that you are inferring that is how the majority Anglo-Saxon or German background women respond to Asian or South Asian men? No, sir you didn't make it in being accepted by American women.
I disagree though. I'm Asian-American and all my friends growing up and to this day are non-asian. It's no coincidence that Asian men have the worst dating responses from women for online dating. This is really from U.S. media propaganda. There is no representation for Asian-American men in a sexually desirable manner. No A-list hollywood asian celebs for example. K-Pop just recently blew up in the U.S. and suddenly starting to see more desire for white women dating asians because now they've become more acceptable to a white girls "social status"
@holycrap2680 I agree with you that Asian men are not depicted in a “desirable” way in Hollywood movies/ TV shows, however I think “desirability” (according to the media) is not really a factor in dating apps/ websites. If you are desirable, you are desirable, no matter what race you are. Some people are just not into the way that Asians look. Some people just feel uncomfortable around us (due to prejudice, ignorance, or both). Some people just have a preference for dating people within their own race/ ethnicity/ culture. I don’t think it has anything to do with how Asian men are portrayed in the media.
Noticed south east Asian guys including Vietnamese and Filipinos tend to date whoever they want. I think self limiting beliefs get in the way with other Asian guys.
I am white but i am half Polish and half German - both my grandmothers were 100% Polish and both my grandfathers were 100% German. Even when they dated and eventually got married it was extremely looked down upon and was a huge issue within both of their extended families. They actually migrated to the US so that they would be less scrutinized. Even within the same race they were shamed for multicultural relationships. And that was not that long ago either!
While it may not be true for all of the older generation, I believe that many of them would like to see the younger generation carry on their legacy and traditions, even if some young people do not follow them.
Which is the dumbest thing ever if you want to date girls. Gotta devote on multiple subjects to be a well rounded person. A person who is educated should have game and other traits.
Yes, masculinity is very missing in many Asian cultures. The western and African cultures are more masculine. They go for things. Asian guys kinda watch from the sidelines.
I was lucky that my dad came here as a teenager by himself after the Vietnam War. He quickly realized that men are judged by their masculinity in America, so growing up, my dad didn’t have any issue with me lifting, getting into cars/trucks, guns and tattoos SO AS LONG as I was being good in school and focusing on my future.
@@achillesxiong92 Masculinity is not missing from Asian cultures. It's just redefined over there. You don't call an entire continent "missing" "masculinity. You racist prick
This is probably the most intelligent talk about race relations I have ever heard. The thing about class vs race is sooo true. People on the same class but different race will have more common grounds than a different class of the same ethnicity.
@@ryebread869 Dont ignore how nonasian women in general treat asian men vastly differeny compared to other men. There is prejudice and discriminiatory behavior that you all have.Its a 2 way street
100% Bart. As someone who's hybrid Chinese/Vietnamese, I appreciate Anthony's representation of our community lol - keep it up. What really bugs me about my Asian community brothers is when I hear stupid shit like: "Oh, he's dating a white girl - he upgraded." Or the moment they see an attractive white girl they suddenly act all tough. Everything that they're so energetic to discuss whether it's anime or video games suddenly went out of the window.
At least for me as an Asian guy it was hard liking girls my race because of the women in my family setting the example of what it’s gonna be like if I’m with them in terms of temperament, It always made me want to venture past my own culture or similar ones. Now I’m older and realize none of that shit matters if u like someone u like them and everyone’s more similar than they’d like to admit. But that could be an explanation as to why they like white girls or girls out of their culture more
Fans have been asking them about this question since Ask the Feels days.. lol in a past episode with this question they even made mention they talked about this a few times before. Their answers have been consistent throughout the years.
absolutely, but they did it on purpose. Mainstream media, Hollywood, TV shows. But the real problem is that majority of Asian male don't stand up for themselves and go out.
If there are 4 guys, all same qualification, looks and personality but different races, White, Black, Hispanic, and S.East Asian. You will see there is a difference on who they choose. I'm good friends who white women and they have even said they list Asian's as their last options, it's a societal standard aka status symbol. Even one of my lady white coworker's daughter had a crush on her Asian classmate. The first thing she said to her daughter was, "why would you date an Asian kid, you're gonna be taller than him." It's a brainwash pushed by their parents norms.
There is a denial here that most girls do not find the east asian guys physically attractive as many are out of shape and the facial features aren't as attractive for them. That's not to say all east asian guys are unattractive, but its only the handsome ones that the girls will fancy.
It was such a great conversation. I grew up in a very diverse community as well. We have a college here called RIT, and there's a huge Asian community in the area because of that school. So I've dated all races and just never dated an Asian boy, not because of the race, because they were so timid and had no idea how to approach me. I've never seen until the last 15 years or so Asian men and white women here. Now, you can find Asian men with all kinds of races as partners. Bart was truly spot on. Great video.
Never seen Asian male with a white female before in the US well atleast on the East Coast. Youre more likely to see BigFoot than an Asian or hapa male with a girlfriend these days.
@Wilkes McDermid here in Rochester, I wouldn't say uncommon. I've seen many. We have a large population of Asian people. I will say I see more Asian men with black women than white but still see it all the same.
@@GYSMelanie5 Ive never seen full Asian men with black woman. I met a Japanese guy with a half-black GF before. But half-white/Asian men with black girlfriends are becoming more common. Most whites cannot tell the difference between half-Asian/white and full Asians. In the studies I read. I read because 96% of half-white/asian men are WMAF and sons tend to look more like the mother. Half-Asian males with white moms tend to look more caucasian than the ones with Asian moms I notice.
My entire 38 years, I've only had 1 white woman interested in me, and we met in Hong Kong as study abroad students. But I think a lot of it has to do with exposure. Growing up in San Jose, my high school was predominantly Asian and Latino, so I saw a lot of couples like that. Probably why I ended up marrying a Mexican beauty.
I married the most beautiful white girl in existence. I have had over 500 white girls that wanted me. My wife who was my crushed approached me and flirted with me. But I am Vietnamese, and Vietnamese men are extremely hot, and extremely social and badass. We are not East Asian. Lots of white girls had no idea I was even "Asian" in the first place. Many thought I was a player or pimp. My wife thought I was a breakdancer when she first met me.
@@potatoeskimos Completely different DNA. Vietnamese came from Southern China and Northern Vietnam. Chinese came from Northern China. Vietnamese grew rice, Chinese grew wheat.
Im a British black woman who's watched JK for over a decade now and when I think back to when I discovered that Asian men could be an dating option for me was crazyyy😅 So London is super multicultural so I grew up seeing so many multicultural relationships it was very normal but what I will say is out of all the different combinations of races I grew up around I never saw East Asian men with someone outside their race. Not where I grow up anyways.. Anyhow so when I was in school about 15 years old I was talking to a friend who is also black and she was telling me about her secret crush she had, she was making me guess who it was, so Im going through a list of most of the guys in our grade and she's laughing to herself saying "I'll never guess who it is" anyways eventually she lets me know that it was 1 out of the 4 Asian guys in our grade and my mind was blownnnnn, its actually so stupid when you think about it cuz the guy she was talking about was super cool, attractive and everyone liked him but no girls were really interested. Until she said that I never even thought that dating an Asian guy was an option I could have, as I never saw it growing up. After this revelation every time I was in public I kept on seeing super hot asian dudes that I never noticed before. It was like wearing shades your whole life then taking them off! Like the way I thought was so juvenile but I think true to the times, I never saw Asian men being desired so I didn't know it was an option so were I completely agree with what the guys are saying but I think its a mix of both. Plus everything's changed now and the rest of the world starting to see the value in dating Asian men
I am sorry to say this, but I really wish that we didn't put white girls on the pedestal. Date who you want, but the default of dating out of your race shouldn't be white. I understand that in america, white is the default, but I felt like the panel honed in on the experience of asian males trying to date white women. I get that is the goal, for lack of better words, for many asian men, but there is more out there. Go for Hispanic, or indian, or black. This is coming from an AMBW couple.
I'm a Christian BW & have long had an attraction to Asian guys (I blame Kdramas 🤭). Living in FL, seems next to impossible to find a Christian AM...😕 When I was a teacher in 🇹🇼, there was a plethora of FIIINE Asian guys, but my Mandarin sucked & they are too shy approach a foreign woman.
Good job guys. Taiwanese married for 34 years to a white woman. She has proven to be a better wife and daughter-in-law than my sibling’s Taiwanese wife. Find your mate regardless of race. It’s much easier these days than 40 years ago.
As a vietnamese guy, I had many white girls approaching me too suddently, some were arab. That's why being patient is important and girls learning how to approach is just as important. They just say they find me cute and if I'm available to date, but they never try to talk to me before or get to know me. In result it gets me nervous and I just walk away since I really didn't expect those interactions to happen. But I'm not into white girls. I don't know if that's racist but, I want a girl that can age same pace as me and I like asian girl appearance in general. But it's true when you mention to your asian mom about dating a black girl just to see their reaction, you can see they get uncomfortable. It's kinda sad and funny at the same time. But my mom don't want me to date white girls either. She wants me to date asian. But my preferences are not based from what she wants since if I was really attracted to a non asian girl, I wouldn't let my parents get in the way of what I want.
I think a lot of it stems from the self-limiting belief of thinking that you're unable to date a girl of a certain race or the perception that a certain race of girls is unattracted to you simply for being Asian. If you've already internalized something that you believe to be true, then it starts off as defeatist because you've already made up your mind and are closed to having your beliefs challenged. Unless you go out and put those beliefs into practice to test whether those beliefs are true, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy of negativity.
Its true though. They did surveys on dating apps and asian men were on the bottom of the totem pole of races women were attracted to. It has to do with the effeminization of asian men for decades in hollywood. Actors that were asian in hollywood were either unattractive goofy nerdy asexual comedians or the unromantic martial artists. I have asian friends who are tall and handsome and they never get matched on dating apps. Its always low tier white women interested in them. The best thing asian american men can do is go passport bros because its only an issue in the West.
Not true. A 2014 Ok Cupid study of dating preferences in women found that Asian males were considered to be the least desirable racial group among White men, Black men, and Latino men. This is largely due to Western media having portrayed Asian males as socially awkward and never casting them in leading male roles.
its not that black and white and statistics all across the board from dating to marriages support it. White woman have internalized asian stereo types and asian men have internalized feeling undesirable from the western perspective. obviously a generalization, but thats how statistics work.
It's true that sometimes the topic runs on a tangent and there's alot of messing around (which I love btw). It's just sometimes I forget how insightful and smart this group is. When the right topic rolls around and they get into the flow, the gems of wisdom don't fcking stop
I grew up in SoCal and my first every boyfriend was Taiwanese and I remember people making inappropriate jokes about his race constantly while we were together. Even had someone say they knew "kung fu" and could fight him. People made a spectacle out of us because there were very few white/asian couples at the time in my exact area (the early JKFilms days). While we drifted apart interest wise, he was still one of the sweetest most caring guys I have ever met.
As someone who is married to a Taiwanese man I can totally appreciate this discussion and different perspectives. I agree with Joe here; I have had family on my side when I told them I was dating someone Asian they gave me the good ol "What do his parents think of you? Do they like you? Are they okay with their son dating someone 'different' ?" That sure makes a chat with the parents super uncomfortable
Those who believe race, culture and status of wealth doesn't play a role in relationship are pretending the world is nirvana. To accept the differences is to allow for growing and appreciation for the differences. Yes I had to do the same with my family when I dated outside my race.
I'm an Asian guy. I dated an Asian girl and her parents look down on us because I wasnt the right Asian. My older Mexican friend introduced me to her daughter. Her dad was on there on the date too. Her dad, her mother, and I all said yes for the second date. The daughter said no. I'm glad the mom saw that her daughter said no instead of me, so we remain friends. It was just a small date, but I was so faltered that they didnt see my race and just saw a great guy. She said no I think because I was really nervous and I came from a bad relationship and I was so scared of being in another bad relationship. My dates can feel how scared I was. I dont blame them not picking me. I wouldn't pick me because I was so scared and nervous. I also date enough and felt I got nothing to prove.
To my Asian brother my advice for you guys is don’t chicken out. If you like someone just tell them. If they don’t feel the same way about you, just move on, the end.
For me personally, race is definitely a huge part dating in America not just about dating white women. I am fluent in two languages, and had the rare opportunity to experiment and date in Asia and America. Same me, same humor, same confidence and looks, the result was vastly different. When I was in my home country, girls are way more receptive, engaging, and willing to match my energy. In America I don't even get matches in online dating apps.
First step to fixing something is realizing all the moving parts. I do hear everything that they are saying, but it’s also a real thing. Although it is a much better as of recent, there has always been a mate guarding agenda against Asian men, especially in western settings.
I remember going to high school, and despite the best efforts of the Gap commercials of that time and the sitcoms trying to make you believe that all the races just got along, but I vividly remember that beyond the scripted blocks of learning of the required subjects: math, science, English, history, art etc...I got a glimpse of what was behind the curtain of the real world after school would end and that was during lunch time and I would see the cliques form, there's no sign that says blacks sit at this table, it just happens. The Hispanics sit at one table, the whites and blacks sit at their own tables, the emo goth had their own table, and you wanna know the messed up part is that the Asian kids didn't even have a table. They were usually found doing their club meetings and eating in the class or playing with D&D. The rare times non Asians wanted to be anywhere near Asians was when a test was coming and everyone wanted to sit next to one, cuz to copy the answers. And it was a liberal school so it was surprising to see open racism happen so effortlessly. Whenever the school had dance nights, and if a hot white girl goes to a white or a black guy, it was to see if they already had a date for the night, but when they come up to a Asian guy it's around the end of the quarter when there's papers need to be written or tutoring for exams so they can graduate. Asian guys were seen as walking calculators or encyclopedias, but never the object of affection. College was just a rerun of high school but the girls were even hotter.
I am white and was born and raised in Hawaii - I live on the mainland now. My first boyfriend was asian and since then my preference tends to lean that way. Why? I don't know. Probably because I find asians so attractive. I'm single again but I am hesitant to put out there in the "ether" that I'd really love to meet a lovely asian man, but I'm afraid of being slapped with the societal labels and being accused of having "yellow fever" and all this other stuff that's being slung around now and I don't know how to approach it. Yes, I'm white, but I grew up around all asian and Pacific Islander and now I feel like today I'm not allowed to pursue my interests. If anyone has any advice, please share. I'd appreciate to get ideas of how to approach this or where I could meet accepting asian men open to meeting white women. Is there an online community for this or?? Idk - I feel stupid for even asking but I'm just being authentic...so..tia
Approach who you have interests in instead of being afraid of social labels. It's your life, you are living it for yourself, not others and you are the star of your show. All those other people are casts of the show to make your life more interesting. Asian men are open to meeting other races. Just walk up to them and ask anything, and maybe even be bold and ask them out. If you think you have lots of social pressures, Asian men have even more and some are shy especially to other races since we get made fun of a lot so you would both of you a favor by approaching and just ask for coffee date. Oh yeah, it's more stupid if you don't ask and struggles.
Times have definitely changed, when growing up I hung out with mostly blacks and Mexicans, they were just more accepting groups vs the whites. It's like what Bart said when he was in the marines and went to point Loma or Carlsbad for a dance the white people had a stigma against minorities.
The first movie crush I had was Data from goonies and I remember not wanting to tell anyone around me because he was asian. And the fact my community was very white, racist, and isolated had a big contribution. Because if you differ you’d be excluded….which I already was for being poor and Hispanic but that’s neither here nor there
Yeah it definitely helps living in an area where there is no asian men. Places like LA, Seattle, etc where the asian population is high and the politics are liberal doesnt help asian men
It’s not about the approval of family or culture. It’s about finding a white chick that’s not insecure about dating an Asian guy. Specially when her friends and family tease her about it.
when i used Tinder years ago one girl i was talking to literally stopped talking to me when she realized i was Asian and not some form of Polynesian. Here in NZ plenty of women are into Polynesian men so being darker skinned i get mistaken as one of them from afar often.
@@stevel9627 Black/African/dark-skinned men have always had a head start in terms of romance. Nothing's changed. Not much will change. It's a world set in stone.
I'm Asian-American and all my friends growing up and to this day are non-asian. It's no coincidence that Asian men have the worst dating responses from women for online dating. This is really from U.S. media propaganda. There is no representation for Asian-American men in a sexually desirable manner. No A-list hollywood asian celebs for example. K-Pop just recently blew up in the U.S. and suddenly starting to see more desire for white women dating asians because now they've become more acceptable to a white girls "social status"
STOP using apps! It's sht for dudes of ALL races unless you're a Chad or a Tyrone. It's a complete waste of your money. Go out and meet ppl in person. Lower your voice and stop talking like you just went through puberty. Change your laugh to a manly belly laugh, not giggle like little middle school boys. Look ppl directly in their EYES. Go lift weights. Copy what Chads do. Stop talking like you're black. You are NOT black. Everybody thinks you're a fking clown talking like you're black. Don't hang out with all-Asian crew. You learn nothing from each other. Make friends with other races and copy what they do. I'm Korean and 6ft 225lbs of dad bod. I walk around like I fear nothing. 90% of chicks I dated are WHITE. Maybe you can't help not being 6ft tall, but you ABSOLUTELY can help yourself be more masculine.
Internal racism? How about Asian chicks who wouldn't even date Asian guys? Now THAT'S internal racism. I've seen video interviews with non Asian chicks asking if they have considered dating Asian guys and they all pretty much said no, so you guys can't simply blame Asian guys for being sheltered and whatnot. It's a lot more complicated than that.
Black girl from the U.K ✋🏾. Asian guys have always been on my radar. Maybe it's from the O.G martial arts movies, but I always though Asian guys were the coolest, hottest and very masculine. So not sure what other girls were thinking but I was very much attracted to them. Even hanging around Asian guys, I just felt that they were gentlemen and quite easy to get along with.
I tried hitting on a vietnamese guy in my art class in high school. I don't think he knew I existed because he never interacted with me when I tried to talk to him. He had other Mong friends he'd talk to, and his English was fine. So it made me feel i couldn't date asian men because their family wouldn't allow it.
they're really really shy and introverted, and passive. and they not just respect their family's orders of them, but feel Obligated to live their lives according to what their parents say. it's too much to be around. you dodge a bullet tbh
@@fmz0507 bro I literally have had 2 Asian exes and been around their families and everyone acts like that. they are so obedient to their parents, it's so much to deal with. it's just best to not. imo. which is why I understand why many avoid Asian men, in that regard. harsh, but I understand why many avoid
Nah as an Asian dude dating any girls is equally as hard because they each have their own individuality separate from race. Dating is never suppose to easy, but that doesn't make it impossible, if you just give up because something is difficult then the only person to blame is yourself.
I am a white gen x female and I am open to Asian men for sure. I had an asian boyfriend and he was great. You guys are good enough on your own, you don't need to cuss. Just an observation.
great point about how it's not the race that's so much the issue but the perception of the majority. if you better yourself, get in shape, and develop a personality, you will attract any ethnicity. people are always complaining about how it's the media's responsibility to change the perception but it's really OUR own.
Bart really nailed it! I was like Bart too, I had a very multicultural upbringing until I got older then mainly hung out with fellow Asian Americans... and it was a really different universe. It was great being friends but romantic systems really screwed me over bc I didn't fit in to the typical Asian American stereotype for physically "attractive" Asian girl 🥲 took me a long time to understand this! Bart put it into words so nicely!
my whole life I always wanted to have friends from all different races. I am white, female, and I would not consider myself that great looking but...segway, I always thought that would be so neat because I love to learn about different cultures as I don't really have one. I may be Texan but I mean it's like what could I share "Hey Y'all, it's city life, pretty much the same everywhere?" So I feel like I miss out on a lot. But I always felt like if I tried to approach someone of a different race than me, that it was like...whoa what are you doing here? I do hope one day we can all just be friends and stuff and it doesn't matter, because I think that would be really awesome.
my bfs friends apparently argued and ended their friendship over a white girl. since i grew up my whole life surrounded by white ppl, i thought it was ridiculous they put her on a pedestal and ended their bond because of that. they grew up in a predomimately asian community too. coming from an adoptee, idk why asians put white people on a pedestal and then wonder why theres so much racism. just treat ppl as ppl. my bfs other friend literally said to my bf when he met me "i was going to high five you because i thought your girl was white" (my last name is obviously a white name) ???????? and this was during a meeting for his wedding. with an asian girl. he said that in front of both of us.
It’s not hard for asian men to attract women that aren’t asian. I see it more now than ever before. There are so many factors to this conversation it would take months to even come up with a half ass explanation that is probably going to be based off of stereotypes and stigmas. There are plenty of Asian men who have non Asian women. You just don’t see them as much because america has about 3% Asian population. Naturally you will see the larger demographic such as white,Hispanic and black in an interracial relationship.
I think you guys might have recency and west coast bias... this is coming from a Chinese guy who guy up in michigan and is currently married to an Italian. I remember quite a few times in elementary school and high school my white and black crushes would say "sorry I am not in to chinese guys" or weird left handed compliments like "OH you are cutie for an asian". College in Ohio was a bit better but there were times I would get the sorry not in asian guys comments again. Not saying I never had gfs before my wife but it always felt like I had to put 10xs the work than my non Asian guy friends.... Hearing girls say those things as early as 10 years old can really mess with your head as you develop. Plus the little dick stereotype didn't help either... kids and teenages can be so cruel at times. One last point was that it also didn't help that it seem like Asian girls didn't have as much trouble... Love the convo...
I'm 40 and I would say times now are different because American/white girls and to be honest all non Asian women are more open minded to Asian guys. I grew late 90s and early 2000s and the perception of Asian guys was not like it is now. I still dated outside however there was more hurdles to overcome.
I’m glad you guys made some sort of mention of other ethnicities, because continuously lusting after white people is just getting goofy at this point. Also Bart was spot on with the need to know how to simply interact with other communities before even entertaining the idea of romance.
Non asian here, but ALWAYS interested in great convos, thanks fr sharing guys... Also to the fans let's keep liking so we can get to 2M subs this years!!
Yea, Americans are OBSESSED with race and ethnicity way too much. So much to the point that this becomes the only indicator in their mind whether they can form a relationship with another or not. I remember getting to know a group of Asian-Americans in Japan and how they were talking about how they couldnt find a partner despite being the same “Asian race” as the locals here. They could barely even speak in casual Japanese to make friends with native Japanese people outside of formal settings. They didn’t understand any cultural references, Japanese behavior, common trends and such to connect with the people. They thought that being “Asian” was enough for them lol
Interesting, but remember that America is literally formed by people from all over the world. So I say America just reflects what's in the heart of most people that they don't want to admit to. Americans are just upfront about their prejudices. The truth is people in general are tribalistic and don't like change because it takes you out of your comfort zone.
Perhaps, but they're also upfront about it. It's not like Japan doesn't have it's issues with racism. It does, they're just less likely to talk about it. Racism is everywhere. Btw, white people often don't understand Japanese culture either, and many Japanese still date them. Japanese are also more inclined to date a white person over a black person. I'm not trying to prop up white people here, just pointing out that the Japanese see race too. Edit: forgot to add something.
@@shanchan8247 What does America being formed by people from all over the world have anything to do with the prejudice in their hearts? This is exactly what I mean when I said that race and ethnicity becomes the INDICATOR.
@@monkeybusiness3784 I think you completely missed the point. When I said that Americans are obsessed with race, this becomes the only go to factor when they are “upfront” about relationships. There’s other factors such as cultural mindset, social awareness, specific lingos etc that is more important in relationships, yet it gets completely thrown out of the discussion for Americans. Theres nothing “upfront” about that, rather makes them look stupid or cowardly for not being able to talk about it and would rather just blame race(easiest indicator to differentiate people). Is there any statistics of Japanese people dating white people? Because in terms of marriages, international relationships are extremely rare in Japan and the few times it does happen are with Chinese or Korean nationals that lived in Japan long enough to understand the cultural references, Japanese behavior, and trends that help get them close with Japanese people. Marriages between Japanese and people from western countries are very rare for both men and women currently. Im pretty sure a foreigner(regardless of race) who has lived in Japan for years and know how to connect with the locals(cultural, mindsets, language etc.) has a way better chance of finding a Japanese partner than a Asian American that just depends on their race. Also, where did you get this idea of Japanese being inclined to date white person over a black person based on their race and not mentioning the other factors that are involved? You just proved my point. Do Japanese people see race? Probably so, they have eyes just like anyone else. But they also have sophisticated/complex priorities when dating such as closeness, communication(verbal and non-verbal), affinity, sharing the same cultural mindset and behaviors etc that completely takes over something so simple as “race”. Americans(especially the ones that lack dating experience) completely miss this part and focus 100% on race alone. Thats the problem.
My cousin is Filipino but born and grew up in the US. He's a software engineer and earns a lot of money. He's wife works at a local salon. They're happy together with 3 beautiful kids. 🙂
Hearing stories of Asian American’s parents, I always get a feeling that Asian Americans are alot more traditional compared to the actual Asians back in Asia. The common “Asian stereotypes” Asian Americans talk about like your parents wanting you to be a doctor or a lawyer is something that already died out in Asia back in the 1950s-60s. Also having to be worried about your gf/bf not being accepted by your parents. Thats almost unthinkable for modern Asians back in Asia. Its like Asian Americans retained that old school mentality that our grandparents had. And I never understood why Asian Americans automatically put white girls on a pedestal while being afraid of their family members. Like why would you be worried about your white girlfriend’s parents if they accept you or not? Is this something to do with inferiority complex that minorities in the US go through? Do Asian American guys even want to date white girls? Or is it just a status thing within American society that they’re trying to compete in?
@@shanchan8247 i think black women think white men are special of something. I saw many swirlers and divestors on tik tok and most of them are black women.
well non white races are usually attracted to white beauty natural aesthetic. But they know the drag with pursuing that would most likely not worth it. On the other hand in the same lense that caucasian males/non-asian male counterpart are aesthetically attracted to Asian-American beauty or straight up oriental physically as well due to key hole ratio😂 ill put it up a notch, SEA men dreams of russian beauty more then any other trust me😅 they’d instantly forget white american in a heartbeat.
@@marcjanverdelantar9605 Reminds me of how actual Asians from Asian countries often make fun of Asian-American beauty standards lol. Also how alot of them are confused at the type of preference western guys have for asian girls.
That stereotype didn’t die out lmao. What are you talking about. I was born in 96. many of my friends and I were expected to become doctors or white collared workers
I'm Filipino and I have always lived in a diverse community but with fewer Asians. I have only dated white girls. My siblings are married to non Asians. I married a Swedish national of mediterean descent so basically a darker shade of white. She also has lived in a community of diversity and can speak 5 languages. My parents have never told us to date a certain race. Im attracted mostly to mediterean such as Greek, Cyprus and then Lebanese, Armenian girls. Also my Wife always had a thing for Asian guys. So when she met a 6'2 tall Asian(me) it was a plus.
Being tall definitely helps. You are an anomaly for a Filipino. Most of us, my included, are much shorter (I'm 5'5", which is more typical of a Filipino male)....which doesn't' help when the US male beauty standard requires men to be tall.
@@Joe-eg7ml My bro is 5''6". His American wife is 5'1. Their daughter is obviously mestiza, but is blonde like her mom and is expected to be like 5'8" when she finishes growing. She must have found that one Spanish gene in my dad....😅
Latino here , very insightful talk you guys have . I dated two Filipina chicks pretty cool experience and learn some things Asians are dope although sometimes I feel like I can’t fit in .
I'm just curious about this question. Growing up on both sides of the United States. Westside (California/Washington St.) and Eastside (North Carolina / Kentucky), I noticed a difference dating. While living in California and Washington State, I dated more Asian and Pacific Islander women while living on the East Coast (North Carolina/Kentucky) it was the opposite. I had more chances of dating a white woman or any other race outside the Asian nationality. I believe it's where you live. I just ❤️ living in a diverse community.
Asian guy having grown up in Central Europe. We discussed interracial couples at the University maybe 15 years ago already. Now there are more and more Asians in this country including many Sri Lankans, Indians, Thai, Vietnamese, some Korean, Chinese and Japanese. Asian friends I know are usually dating anybody but Asian chicks. And on the side of the girls that was already the case, when we did surveys back in time. My sister married a German too and I never dated Asians, as they sneezed at my because of many things including height. The newer breed of Asians is now tall too thanks to changes in diet and thus they have much better card in the dating game. K-Pop and K-Dramas are very popular amongst the millenials and Gen-Z. Yet, let's not forget that the girls want exactly that K-pop boygroup look. Dating was always ultra tough for me, but I recognize, that younger generations have it easier. The local gyms are finally loaded with Asians, so it looks like "we" will do better than ever.
It’s crazy how as you refer to “non-Asian”, you mainly refer to white girls. It’s not often that you see a man of Asian descent dating black women. I know that there are couples like this but not to often.
Thank you jknews for bring back different topics and giving out your each individual opinion on the subject at hand, I love the fucking around and jokes, seeing different point of view's are good too!
I've heard it's harder for Asians to date a black person. Parents will accept a white person as a partner over a black person every time out the gate normally. And not just with Asians but most races actually. Darker skin is interpreted as lower class in most cultures, that's why bleaching products are top selling in Asia.
I think it’s more dependent on culture instead of race. I know that most white girls that date or marry Asian guys tend to be conservative or right leaning white women. They are a lot more open minded than women who are liberal or progressive. Cultural assimilation is key. It seems like many people specifically those that hold left wing views tend to view everything as race related which often creates this illusion barrier
Because Asian's blossom late in life. 30's is where you start to really look like a man , but a young man in his 20's. 40's you look like a matured man, but still young. Our super power has always been longevity. But it takes patience to benefit from it. So be patient.
Even if they are into white women that doesn't mean they are not gonna date with Asian women!!!🤦we all know Asian guys will just use white women for exotic experience
I’m a Pacific Islander and lived in Augusta Georgia for a few years. Dating there was definitely harder for me because of the cultural differences. White and black people dated most and third most was latino. Being a Pacific Islander it was like being a fish out of water
I think that’s the key point, nerds hang with nerds, jocks with jocks, and so forth. There was only like 7 other Asian kids in my school. It was mostly white, Mexican, and natives (and like 3 black kids). We all hung out with each other based on interests.
@7:00 what bart said is true its about the cultures and settings. I’m Filipino immigrant in SoCal my first gf was Mexican other race does like Asians men and women
We're all humans, the differences are cultural not racial. We have the exact same sensory apparatus and very similar cognition, aside from some minor genetic differences, we are almost exactly the same outside of experiences. Obviously we can all connect, even on a romantic level.
Gotta be willing to expose yourself to different cultures. This is why traveling is so important. Listening to different music, watching different movies etc.. Though movies can be tricky bc they usually play on stereotypes.
Im darker skinned south east Asian. I have a body of a muay thai fighter while looking like one since after all i did train as a boxer just not Muay Thai since we had no Muay Thai gyms in my area. My experience is that when i was younger (20 - 30's) i had a lot plenty of white women interested in me but as i got older (late 30's now) i've noticed very few white women interested in me. It doesnt help i look younger then i am and women tend to like older looking men especially as they age. Anyway i've never put white women on a pedestal and have never seen anything special about them for me to go out of my way to attract them. If anything i prefer other minority women as they at least understand what its like to live as one. Only problem is that minority women themselves have eyes only on white men and in many cases it doesnt even matter what the guy looks or behaves like as long as hes white
French here and I can tell you it's the same. Grew up in public school, many different folks, Cambodian, Laotian, Algerian, Turkish, Portuguese...etc my first crush when I was a kid was that Cambodian boy, he taught me how to play with pokemon cards and marbles, he was the only one I would write about in my journal lol. Never really thought about race since we would play all together (one of my white friend even had a Moroccan boyfriend) until Junior high. People started hanging out by ethnic groups, Turkish, Mahgreb, White and Asian were the main groups, not much black kids where I lived. I met my best friend at that time, she was a Laotian girl. Her parents completely disagreed about our friendship, she was not even allowed to hang out with me at school because I was white lmao. We didn't care any ways, we were in the sports club together and ended up going to her house in secret. Her parents eventually accepted our friendship, realising I was no thug, and later even allowed me in their house. First, only in the living room and finally, we were allowed to be in her room lol we would listen to music, talk about our celebrity crush and manga. She was here for me when I ended up in a hospital because of mental health issues. She skipped school to visit my mom and ask about me even though her parents were very strict about education. I wish everyone to have such a friend. It's been years we didn't talk to each other but we will meet again when I'll go back to France. Love you Linda ❤
Asian guy that grew up in suburban Florida. Literally only like 8 or 9 asian people in my whole high school, and even when I went to Uni, my classes were still primarily white. So I have only ever dated white women because that was really my only option. It feels more like a stereotype with self-inflicted limitations. I can't say for sure if its more difficult compared to dating an asian girl since I've never had any asian women around me that isn't family to date? I will say it was still pretty difficult to connect on a deeper level with the white women i've dated because they hadn't experienced a similar home life as mine so our conversations tended to not delve too deep into our upbringings.
It's a stigma from a long time ago. Masculinity in Asian culture is very different. This is stemming from the initial immigration in 1800's through the Chinese exclusion Act and Japanese internment. Now, Asian men are hitting media with major roles (Hollywood). If you ask an average American, "Name 3 Asian men in Hollywood (Alive) who represent a masculine man" , They will not be able to answer the question. I have written papers on this subject, and it is a very lengthy, complicated subject. Being in the east coast, my answers are very different.
Have a friend who pulled themselves out of depression and a bad financial spot, took many years. Lost all his friends. Some women will think it's a red flag but it's hard to say outright the work you put in, at that point it may just be easier to move to a new place or just lie and say you're new in town
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I'm Asian , been dating girls outside my race since I was in high school, they are just like any other girls, a lot of these girls are just waiting for a guy to talk to them. Plus you have to have the self confidence in yourself. Alot of asian guys don't approach other races because the fear of rejection.
Perfectly said
You are correct. I'm not asian, but went to a hood school in texas, and there were like 2-3 asian dudes getting tons of tail. They had attributes most asian guys do not have. #1 is humor, not caring about anyone getting offended. Super social, had friends of every race (more exposure to different races of women), and not afraid of taking an L (rejection).
The question is where does this mentality come from.
You mean they are weak and scared. All men fear rejection. It’s the ones that have the balls to step up to the plate to get her become the winners.
@@jerrymylove1754 not necessarily weak, just a lack in confidence in one self. Its like fishing to me, you probably won't catch any fish on your first cast, just have to keep on trying.
In the movie "Romeo must die". There was supposed to be a kissing scene at the end of the movie, but the director said that he "Didn't want the world to be disgusted by watching a beautiful black girl kissing a asian man". There is so much movies about a white guy saving the day and ends up with a asian girl, but never a asian guy saving the day and ends up with a white girl. Hollywood need to stop with their asian girl fetish.
That's an easy one. Hollywood directors and staff are majority Jewish and are actually deathly afraid of 'their' women falling for Asian guys like Bruce Lee and Sessue Hayakawa, one of the first big heartthrobs in Hollywood.
And James Shigeta 🙂
Maybe cuz it unrealistic to asians culture, asian men lack gentle man culture and they don't have good Samaritan culture either
So literally, the black guy that created Romeo must die was cock blocking because he felt that black people in Asian people shouldn’t be together that’s literally what it is
@@cantaloupemelonz1533Weird cope.
Bart’s explanation was spot on! In my schools the Spanish kids used to stay together but that was due to the language barrier. Thank God I also grew up in a very diverse community and I never felt discriminated or felt left out.
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Spanish kids?? from Spain??..... or do you mean Latino/Hispanic?? Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Colombian??. We are not Spanish. but to go onto your point, that's interesting, because most Mexican-Amer hang out with Black Amer. most Asians are known to be a cliquey group, that ONLY hang out with one another. not a welcoming or warm sqaud.
@@gaymer-j South American are half white
@@Nik29austria bro i see you with trolling comments left and right. but No, Latin America is not half white. dude, a quick google search will educate you. there are millions and millions of Indigenous full or majority Indigenous blood (such as myself, 63%, 12% African, and 25% Spanish-Euro), majority of 95% of the 12 million + slaves sent to the Western Hemisphere went to Latin America (only 5% to USA), and Spanish are the other mix.
so no, not half. that is your troll uneducated assumption, and Half still is not full if we're just going through your troll comment. We still wouldn't be Spanish, moreso Latino-mixed. not from Spain.
@@Nik29austria i just checked your page out, clearly a race obsessed troll account
Glad I found this channel. So I came to America in 79 from S. Korea. And for the longest time, I believed in the stereo type because it was constantly reinforced by the fact that a lot of Asian women would only date non-Asian men. I grew-up in San Jose, CA so this is what I observed. Long story short, I moved to Southwest Virginia for school and suddenly I found myself in a new environment surrounded by white and black people and I gotta admit, it was a culture shock. But something else happened, I started interacting with people from different cultures and started making connections. Also, I was probably at the happiest during those three years and because I was happy, girls started responding to that inner joy/happiness and optimism vibe I had around me. Its how I met my wife, she's Brazilian, and we married and we have built a life together 🙂. I think when a guy is happy and just enjoying life, this is what can make a woman notice you. Let's be honest, would you want to hang-out with a friend who was always depressed or down or just plain unhappy? No. Living in San Jose was doing that to me. I had to move to the East Coast to realize how unhappy I was in California. God bless you all.
That's San Jose, much different than SOcal
I think you will find that what is making you so happy is the girls here on the east coast are much more receptive to Asian guys. no cap!
I immigrated from Taiwan to the San Francisco Bay area as a youth, lived in San Jose for 2 short years. I dated many women of all races in my life. I'm in my 50s now. White, black, Asian, you name it. I really liked a Kazastan woman, actually.
I'm happily married to a Filipina. Beautiful and traditional. We have 3 children.
I have never felt
Insecure dating, nor racism. I believe in myself as a man of value and standards. I'm 5 foot 10, not even 6 foot. I just think you have to know your worth comes from within yourself, not worthless idiots.
So you met have slept with just one woman in your life and you are inferring as that is how every woman responds? Moreover, the Asian or South Asian women date and sleep with the majority Anglo-Saxon or German background men of USA and you found a foreigner interested in you? And by that you are inferring that is how the majority Anglo-Saxon or German background women respond to Asian or South Asian men? No, sir you didn't make it in being accepted by American women.
@@AnirbanKarmakar-l1z She turned out not even American. She is just Brazilian. 😂
Episodes like these are some of my favorite from this channel. Good topic, great conversation, attentive listening, and informative discussion. Thank you
Reminds me of Big Mood where they talk about more real life topics and reflect on it
I grew up in a small town in the Midwest where Asians were practically like a mystical unicorn. I often got mistaken for being Mexican or Native American. It was so rare for white people to see Asians in real life to the point that Asian stereotypes became useless in social interactions lol. Never really felt any type of struggle or “guilt” in dating white girls since they were the only option around me. I didn’t even know some Asians in the west coast had this much inferiority complex in their identity until I moved over there for college.
No joke. I didn't even see girls at places here for the longest I wasn't big on internet so I was just watching basic tv for girls. Makes you wonder if that was on purpose or not lol.
Damn. Well, for what it's worth, they say that Indigenous Mexicans/Native Americans descend from Asian Mongolians. So everyone's related in the long run.
I grew in the Midwest (Chicago/Suburbs) us Asians are exotic there and the white girls seem to be more receptive to dating us. It helps I’m tall for a Asian man at 6ft and athletic who isn’t socially awkward. Now I live in California and it could be the social media age but your just another Asian here it’s nothing special for a white girl or just even some Asian girls don’t want to date Asian men unless you are a super outlier. I dated a Irish girl from Ireland for 8 years and I’m sure that exotic card played some part of my attraction for her.
Similar experience. The only thing I felt weird about was because my parents were immigrants and didn't know shit about American culture. But in terms of talking and dating white girls it wasn't that big of a deal. I studied hard but I also played sports. I went to college in the East coast, and felt weird with all the cliques.
Asians were not common where I was but it definitely hurt us. Alot of racism
Damn this was a good topic, and you guys did a really good job talking about it!
can you guys talk about asian gangs cause the gang culture in la during the 90’s to early 2000’s was wild and unique to la and i know bart and joe have their stories
They already have
Countless of times.
We have a good amount of that during a recent video with Ellen Kim
Off The Record: Discussing Early 2000's AsianGang Culture (ft. Ellen Kim)
Swamp stories
Was dating black and white girls as long as I can remember. But I am the athlete type one guy was describing. Also I'm not afraid of rejection. I'm currently with a Mexican woman. Like Jay Z said, "I love girls girls girls girls, girls all over the world."
I’m glad I grew up in diverse public school and it was kind of normal so I ended up dating a Spanish girl and the vibes just clicked more with me. I think it’s just knowing yourself as a person like Bart said then understanding cultures and communication then their way of flirting. I was solely focused on girls so I didn’t see color lol personality is what makes your heart happy. Awesome discussion guys 👏 and welcome back Geo !!!
Spanish is people from Spain ?. Do you mean latinos ?
Whatever makes junior happy! 😎
Same here
So you met have slept with just one woman in your life and you are inferring as that is how every woman responds? Moreover, the Asian or South Asian women date and sleep with the majority Anglo-Saxon or German background men of USA and you found a foreigner interested in you? And by that you are inferring that is how the majority Anglo-Saxon or German background women respond to Asian or South Asian men? No, sir you didn't make it in being accepted by American women.
Loved the way Bart broke down his experiences and thought process on the topic
I disagree though. I'm Asian-American and all my friends growing up and to this day are non-asian. It's no coincidence that Asian men have the worst dating responses from women for online dating. This is really from U.S. media propaganda. There is no representation for Asian-American men in a sexually desirable manner. No A-list hollywood asian celebs for example. K-Pop just recently blew up in the U.S. and suddenly starting to see more desire for white women dating asians because now they've become more acceptable to a white girls "social status"
@holycrap2680 I agree with you that Asian men are not depicted in a “desirable” way in Hollywood movies/ TV shows, however I think “desirability” (according to the media) is not really a factor in dating apps/ websites. If you are desirable, you are desirable, no matter what race you are.
Some people are just not into the way that Asians look. Some people just feel uncomfortable around us (due to prejudice, ignorance, or both). Some people just have a preference for dating people within their own race/ ethnicity/ culture. I don’t think it has anything to do with how Asian men are portrayed in the media.
Noticed south east Asian guys including Vietnamese and Filipinos tend to date whoever they want. I think self limiting beliefs get in the way with other Asian guys.
I am white but i am half Polish and half German - both my grandmothers were 100% Polish and both my grandfathers were 100% German. Even when they dated and eventually got married it was extremely looked down upon and was a huge issue within both of their extended families. They actually migrated to the US so that they would be less scrutinized. Even within the same race they were shamed for multicultural relationships. And that was not that long ago either!
Well...I guess it was because of certain painful memories about the war?
very good point.
A bit about war.different cultures and traditicions
While it may not be true for all of the older generation, I believe that many of them would like to see the younger generation carry on their legacy and traditions, even if some young people do not follow them.
😂 yay. You said I'm white
Growing up Asian I found that physical attractiveness and masculinity took a back seat to education
Which is the dumbest thing ever if you want to date girls. Gotta devote on multiple subjects to be a well rounded person. A person who is educated should have game and other traits.
Yes, masculinity is very missing in many Asian cultures. The western and African cultures are more masculine. They go for things. Asian guys kinda watch from the sidelines.
I was lucky that my dad came here as a teenager by himself after the Vietnam War. He quickly realized that men are judged by their masculinity in America, so growing up, my dad didn’t have any issue with me lifting, getting into cars/trucks, guns and tattoos SO AS LONG as I was being good in school and focusing on my future.
speak for yourself, i do good at both
@@achillesxiong92 Masculinity is not missing from Asian cultures. It's just redefined over there. You don't call an entire continent "missing" "masculinity. You racist prick
This is probably the most intelligent talk about race relations I have ever heard. The thing about class vs race is sooo true. People on the same class but different race will have more common grounds than a different class of the same ethnicity.
Totally agree!!!
as soon as u put someone on a pedestal it just gets weird
as soon as u see everyone as equal you will befriend/date anyone and everyone
Exactly. I'm 100% certain the people complaining they can't get non-asians are just socially awkward.
@@minty8429 yeah if you view people that you want to date as things to obtain then you're already going about it all wrong
@@ryebread869 Dont ignore how nonasian women in general treat asian men vastly differeny compared to other men. There is prejudice and discriminiatory behavior that you all have.Its a 2 way street
@@ygui7558 yeah of course there are wankers but that's not everyone
@@ryebread869 its in general/majority of nonasian women when it comes to asian men becausd asian men dont fit western ideal male beauty standards
100% Bart. As someone who's hybrid Chinese/Vietnamese, I appreciate Anthony's representation of our community lol - keep it up.
What really bugs me about my Asian community brothers is when I hear stupid shit like:
"Oh, he's dating a white girl - he upgraded."
Or the moment they see an attractive white girl they suddenly act all tough. Everything that they're so energetic to discuss whether it's anime or video games suddenly went out of the window.
European Woman are the Best of the world Bro
I agree to some extent, always be true to yourself cause you can’t keep a facade forever.
Or when Asian women say “I don’t date Asian men, they remind me of my siblings.”
@@kouleeofficial That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Literally no other race says that. Only whitewashed Asian girls.
At least for me as an Asian guy it was hard liking girls my race because of the women in my family setting the example of what it’s gonna be like if I’m with them in terms of temperament, It always made me want to venture past my own culture or similar ones. Now I’m older and realize none of that shit matters if u like someone u like them and everyone’s more similar than they’d like to admit. But that could be an explanation as to why they like white girls or girls out of their culture more
Fans have been asking them about this question since Ask the Feels days.. lol in a past episode with this question they even made mention they talked about this a few times before. Their answers have been consistent throughout the years.
Stereotypes affect people. Jokes affect people. Movies and TV affect people. A lot of people believe what they hear even if it isn’t the entire truth.
absolutely, but they did it on purpose. Mainstream media, Hollywood, TV shows. But the real problem is that majority of Asian male don't stand up for themselves and go out.
Dude it feels like a millenium since I've seen Geo, good to see she's well.
They seem reaaaaaaaalllly preoccupied with being friends with white people and dating white women…not much to do with everyone else.
If there are 4 guys, all same qualification, looks and personality but different races, White, Black, Hispanic, and S.East Asian. You will see there is a difference on who they choose. I'm good friends who white women and they have even said they list Asian's as their last options, it's a societal standard aka status symbol.
Even one of my lady white coworker's daughter had a crush on her Asian classmate. The first thing she said to her daughter was, "why would you date an Asian kid, you're gonna be taller than him." It's a brainwash pushed by their parents norms.
There is a denial here that most girls do not find the east asian guys physically attractive as many are out of shape and the facial features aren't as attractive for them. That's not to say all east asian guys are unattractive, but its only the handsome ones that the girls will fancy.
Brutal
Have you considered leaving your workplace because of comments like those?
But he'll probably be leaner than her. 😂
It was such a great conversation. I grew up in a very diverse community as well. We have a college here called RIT, and there's a huge Asian community in the area because of that school. So I've dated all races and just never dated an Asian boy, not because of the race, because they were so timid and had no idea how to approach me. I've never seen until the last 15 years or so Asian men and white women here. Now, you can find Asian men with all kinds of races as partners. Bart was truly spot on. Great video.
Never seen Asian male with a white female before in the US well atleast on the East Coast. Youre more likely to see BigFoot than an Asian or hapa male with a girlfriend these days.
@Wilkes McDermid I'm on the East Coast, and I see it all the time here in NY.
@@GYSMelanie5 I travelled to Europe and saw a few AMWF couples. Not common but much more common compared to the USA.
@Wilkes McDermid here in Rochester, I wouldn't say uncommon. I've seen many. We have a large population of Asian people. I will say I see more Asian men with black women than white but still see it all the same.
@@GYSMelanie5 Ive never seen full Asian men with black woman. I met a Japanese guy with a half-black GF before. But half-white/Asian men with black girlfriends are becoming more common. Most whites cannot tell the difference between half-Asian/white and full Asians. In the studies I read. I read because 96% of half-white/asian men are WMAF and sons tend to look more like the mother. Half-Asian males with white moms tend to look more caucasian than the ones with Asian moms I notice.
My entire 38 years, I've only had 1 white woman interested in me, and we met in Hong Kong as study abroad students. But I think a lot of it has to do with exposure. Growing up in San Jose, my high school was predominantly Asian and Latino, so I saw a lot of couples like that. Probably why I ended up marrying a Mexican beauty.
I married the most beautiful white girl in existence. I have had over 500 white girls that wanted me. My wife who was my crushed approached me and flirted with me. But I am Vietnamese, and Vietnamese men are extremely hot, and extremely social and badass. We are not East Asian. Lots of white girls had no idea I was even "Asian" in the first place. Many thought I was a player or pimp. My wife thought I was a breakdancer when she first met me.
Wow that’s awesome I wish you guys a wonderful life :)
@@chrisx5127 lmao nice story bro. Vietnamese are chinese btw.
@@potatoeskimos Completely different DNA. Vietnamese came from Southern China and Northern Vietnam. Chinese came from Northern China. Vietnamese grew rice, Chinese grew wheat.
@@chrisx5127 They're both an East Asian ethnic. Same people.
I've been single so long that my dad doesn't care who I marry. He just wants grandchildren lol
You can ask him at what cost? Suffering of anther human being?
I'm hesitant about having kids with my shitty genes lol.
Im a British black woman who's watched JK for over a decade now and when I think back to when I discovered that Asian men could be an dating option for me was crazyyy😅
So London is super multicultural so I grew up seeing so many multicultural relationships it was very normal but what I will say is out of all the different combinations of races I grew up around I never saw East Asian men with someone outside their race. Not where I grow up anyways..
Anyhow so when I was in school about 15 years old I was talking to a friend who is also black and she was telling me about her secret crush she had, she was making me guess who it was, so Im going through a list of most of the guys in our grade and she's laughing to herself saying "I'll never guess who it is" anyways eventually she lets me know that it was 1 out of the 4 Asian guys in our grade and my mind was blownnnnn, its actually so stupid when you think about it cuz the guy she was talking about was super cool, attractive and everyone liked him but no girls were really interested. Until she said that I never even thought that dating an Asian guy was an option I could have, as I never saw it growing up. After this revelation every time I was in public I kept on seeing super hot asian dudes that I never noticed before. It was like wearing shades your whole life then taking them off!
Like the way I thought was so juvenile but I think true to the times, I never saw Asian men being desired so I didn't know it was an option so were I completely agree with what the guys are saying but I think its a mix of both. Plus everything's changed now and the rest of the world starting to see the value in dating Asian men
British black Woman 😂😂😂
You are african
@@Nik29austria 😂I mean I'm actually Jamaican but your technically not wrong
@@sadecamp4400 You must be white to be European
@@Nik29austria I never said I was European 😂 just said I was British as I am..
@@sadecamp4400 No you are not
I am sorry to say this, but I really wish that we didn't put white girls on the pedestal. Date who you want, but the default of dating out of your race shouldn't be white. I understand that in america, white is the default, but I felt like the panel honed in on the experience of asian males trying to date white women. I get that is the goal, for lack of better words, for many asian men, but there is more out there. Go for Hispanic, or indian, or black. This is coming from an AMBW couple.
From my experience, white women are hard af to attract. It sucks lol
Finally a sane comment. They should not be on a pedestal ever
As a black woman I agree. Black men put white women on a pedestal and talk about black woman like we are the scum of the earth.
I do admit, I like dating white girls but not exclusively. I tend to date Latina or Middle Eastern. I went out on few dates with black women too.
I'm a Christian BW & have long had an attraction to Asian guys (I blame Kdramas 🤭). Living in FL, seems next to impossible to find a Christian AM...😕 When I was a teacher in 🇹🇼, there was a plethora of FIIINE Asian guys, but my Mandarin sucked & they are too shy approach a foreign woman.
Good job guys. Taiwanese married for 34 years to a white woman. She has proven to be a better wife and daughter-in-law than my sibling’s Taiwanese wife. Find your mate regardless of race. It’s much easier these days than 40 years ago.
As a vietnamese guy, I had many white girls approaching me too suddently, some were arab. That's why being patient is important and girls learning how to approach is just as important. They just say they find me cute and if I'm available to date, but they never try to talk to me before or get to know me. In result it gets me nervous and I just walk away since I really didn't expect those interactions to happen.
But I'm not into white girls. I don't know if that's racist but, I want a girl that can age same pace as me and I like asian girl appearance in general.
But it's true when you mention to your asian mom about dating a black girl just to see their reaction, you can see they get uncomfortable. It's kinda sad and funny at the same time. But my mom don't want me to date white girls either. She wants me to date asian. But my preferences are not based from what she wants since if I was really attracted to a non asian girl, I wouldn't let my parents get in the way of what I want.
I think a lot of it stems from the self-limiting belief of thinking that you're unable to date a girl of a certain race or the perception that a certain race of girls is unattracted to you simply for being Asian. If you've already internalized something that you believe to be true, then it starts off as defeatist because you've already made up your mind and are closed to having your beliefs challenged. Unless you go out and put those beliefs into practice to test whether those beliefs are true, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy of negativity.
Its true though. They did surveys on dating apps and asian men were on the bottom of the totem pole of races women were attracted to. It has to do with the effeminization of asian men for decades in hollywood. Actors that were asian in hollywood were either unattractive goofy nerdy asexual comedians or the unromantic martial artists. I have asian friends who are tall and handsome and they never get matched on dating apps. Its always low tier white women interested in them. The best thing asian american men can do is go passport bros because its only an issue in the West.
It's both
Not true. A 2014 Ok Cupid study of dating preferences in women found that Asian males were considered to be the least desirable racial group among White men, Black men, and Latino men. This is largely due to Western media having portrayed Asian males as socially awkward and never casting them in leading male roles.
Doesnt help when there are literal statistics to back their beliefs 🤷🏻♂️
its not that black and white and statistics all across the board from dating to marriages support it. White woman have internalized asian stereo types and asian men have internalized feeling undesirable from the western perspective. obviously a generalization, but thats how statistics work.
It's true that sometimes the topic runs on a tangent and there's alot of messing around (which I love btw). It's just sometimes I forget how insightful and smart this group is. When the right topic rolls around and they get into the flow, the gems of wisdom don't fcking stop
I grew up in SoCal and my first every boyfriend was Taiwanese and I remember people making inappropriate jokes about his race constantly while we were together. Even had someone say they knew "kung fu" and could fight him. People made a spectacle out of us because there were very few white/asian couples at the time in my exact area (the early JKFilms days). While we drifted apart interest wise, he was still one of the sweetest most caring guys I have ever met.
And he probably took it, and that why you left him.
As someone who is married to a Taiwanese man I can totally appreciate this discussion and different perspectives. I agree with Joe here; I have had family on my side when I told them I was dating someone Asian they gave me the good ol "What do his parents think of you? Do they like you? Are they okay with their son dating someone 'different' ?" That sure makes a chat with the parents super uncomfortable
Those who believe race, culture and status of wealth doesn't play a role in relationship are pretending the world is nirvana. To accept the differences is to allow for growing and appreciation for the differences. Yes I had to do the same with my family when I dated outside my race.
I'm an Asian guy. I dated an Asian girl and her parents look down on us because I wasnt the right Asian. My older Mexican friend introduced me to her daughter. Her dad was on there on the date too. Her dad, her mother, and I all said yes for the second date. The daughter said no. I'm glad the mom saw that her daughter said no instead of me, so we remain friends. It was just a small date, but I was so faltered that they didnt see my race and just saw a great guy. She said no I think because I was really nervous and I came from a bad relationship and I was so scared of being in another bad relationship. My dates can feel how scared I was. I dont blame them not picking me. I wouldn't pick me because I was so scared and nervous. I also date enough and felt I got nothing to prove.
@Michelle I'm married and has a kid. It all worked out in the end.
Thats incredible for you
@@alexlilano1931 aw dang I’m Mexican but I’m pretty sure you would’ve been a nice guy to her tho :/
To my Asian brother my advice for you guys is don’t chicken out. If you like someone just tell them. If they don’t feel the same way about you, just move on, the end.
Agree with Joe, class ties me more with people rather than race.
Please. It just depends on which race.
For me personally, race is definitely a huge part dating in America not just about dating white women. I am fluent in two languages, and had the rare opportunity to experiment and date in Asia and America. Same me, same humor, same confidence and looks, the result was vastly different. When I was in my home country, girls are way more receptive, engaging, and willing to match my energy. In America I don't even get matches in online dating apps.
First step to fixing something is realizing all the moving parts. I do hear everything that they are saying, but it’s also a real thing. Although it is a much better as of recent, there has always been a mate guarding agenda against Asian men, especially in western settings.
Maybe for dudes that look like kpop
I remember going to high school, and despite the best efforts of the Gap commercials of that time and the sitcoms trying to make you believe that all the races just got along, but I vividly remember that beyond the scripted blocks of learning of the required subjects: math, science, English, history, art etc...I got a glimpse of what was behind the curtain of the real world after school would end and that was during lunch time and I would see the cliques form, there's no sign that says blacks sit at this table, it just happens. The Hispanics sit at one table, the whites and blacks sit at their own tables, the emo goth had their own table, and you wanna know the messed up part is that the Asian kids didn't even have a table. They were usually found doing their club meetings and eating in the class or playing with D&D. The rare times non Asians wanted to be anywhere near Asians was when a test was coming and everyone wanted to sit next to one, cuz to copy the answers. And it was a liberal school so it was surprising to see open racism happen so effortlessly. Whenever the school had dance nights, and if a hot white girl goes to a white or a black guy, it was to see if they already had a date for the night, but when they come up to a Asian guy it's around the end of the quarter when there's papers need to be written or tutoring for exams so they can graduate. Asian guys were seen as walking calculators or encyclopedias, but never the object of affection. College was just a rerun of high school but the girls were even hotter.
I am white and was born and raised in Hawaii - I live on the mainland now. My first boyfriend was asian and since then my preference tends to lean that way. Why? I don't know. Probably because I find asians so attractive. I'm single again but I am hesitant to put out there in the "ether" that I'd really love to meet a lovely asian man, but I'm afraid of being slapped with the societal labels and being accused of having "yellow fever" and all this other stuff that's being slung around now and I don't know how to approach it. Yes, I'm white, but I grew up around all asian and Pacific Islander and now I feel like today I'm not allowed to pursue my interests. If anyone has any advice, please share. I'd appreciate to get ideas of how to approach this or where I could meet accepting asian men open to meeting white women. Is there an online community for this or?? Idk - I feel stupid for even asking but I'm just being authentic...so..tia
Approach who you have interests in instead of being afraid of social labels. It's your life, you are living it for yourself, not others and you are the star of your show. All those other people are casts of the show to make your life more interesting.
Asian men are open to meeting other races. Just walk up to them and ask anything, and maybe even be bold and ask them out. If you think you have lots of social pressures, Asian men have even more and some are shy especially to other races since we get made fun of a lot so you would both of you a favor by approaching and just ask for coffee date.
Oh yeah, it's more stupid if you don't ask and struggles.
Been a fan since 2008, I love you guys!
Times have definitely changed, when growing up I hung out with mostly blacks and Mexicans, they were just more accepting groups vs the whites. It's like what Bart said when he was in the marines and went to point Loma or Carlsbad for a dance the white people had a stigma against minorities.
The first movie crush I had was Data from goonies and I remember not wanting to tell anyone around me because he was asian.
And the fact my community was very white, racist, and isolated had a big contribution. Because if you differ you’d be excluded….which I already was for being poor and Hispanic but that’s neither here nor there
Data aka Ke Huy Quan just won an Oscar for Everything Everywhere All At Once. 😊 🍾 🥂 🎉
This was a really great discussion! Hope it reaches a lot of the community
i'm korean american and have dated mostly white girls, cos i simply tried and the ratio was skewed like 20:1 white girls to asian girls where i lived.
Yeah it definitely helps living in an area where there is no asian men. Places like LA, Seattle, etc where the asian population is high and the politics are liberal doesnt help asian men
It’s not about the approval of family or culture. It’s about finding a white chick that’s not insecure about dating an Asian guy. Specially when her friends and family tease her about it.
when i used Tinder years ago one girl i was talking to literally stopped talking to me when she realized i was Asian and not some form of Polynesian. Here in NZ plenty of women are into Polynesian men so being darker skinned i get mistaken as one of them from afar often.
Why just limit yourself to white woman?
It's about both unfortunately. And then some more.
@@stevel9627 Black/African/dark-skinned men have always had a head start in terms of romance. Nothing's changed. Not much will change. It's a world set in stone.
I'm Asian-American and all my friends growing up and to this day are non-asian. It's no coincidence that Asian men have the worst dating responses from women for online dating. This is really from U.S. media propaganda. There is no representation for Asian-American men in a sexually desirable manner. No A-list hollywood asian celebs for example. K-Pop just recently blew up in the U.S. and suddenly starting to see more desire for white women dating asians because now they've become more acceptable to a white girls "social status"
STOP using apps! It's sht for dudes of ALL races unless you're a Chad or a Tyrone. It's a complete waste of your money. Go out and meet ppl in person.
Lower your voice and stop talking like you just went through puberty.
Change your laugh to a manly belly laugh, not giggle like little middle school boys.
Look ppl directly in their EYES.
Go lift weights.
Copy what Chads do.
Stop talking like you're black. You are NOT black. Everybody thinks you're a fking clown talking like you're black.
Don't hang out with all-Asian crew. You learn nothing from each other. Make friends with other races and copy what they do.
I'm Korean and 6ft 225lbs of dad bod. I walk around like I fear nothing. 90% of chicks I dated are WHITE. Maybe you can't help not being 6ft tall, but you ABSOLUTELY can help yourself be more masculine.
But only for Korean. The other Asian? Maybe next time 🤣🤣
I’m Pakistani and my husband is Vietnamese.😊
Awesome! ❤🎉
Internal racism? How about Asian chicks who wouldn't even date Asian guys? Now THAT'S internal racism.
I've seen video interviews with non Asian chicks asking if they have considered dating Asian guys and they all pretty much said no, so you guys can't simply blame Asian guys for being sheltered and whatnot. It's a lot more complicated than that.
can you blame them? the guys are so short and not as attractive to these girls. green eyes vs black dot eyes...
no contest
@@martinvanburen4578stop projecting
@@CallMeKaden facts are facts
I'd date an Asian guy
@@purdyaldebaran have you?
Black girl from the U.K ✋🏾. Asian guys have always been on my radar. Maybe it's from the O.G martial arts movies, but I always though Asian guys were the coolest, hottest and very masculine. So not sure what other girls were thinking but I was very much attracted to them. Even hanging around Asian guys, I just felt that they were gentlemen and quite easy to get along with.
They only wanna date white women tho lol that’s their badge of honour
@@tapsunofficial Deep down everyone wants the same lol
I tried hitting on a vietnamese guy in my art class in high school. I don't think he knew I existed because he never interacted with me when I tried to talk to him. He had other Mong friends he'd talk to, and his English was fine. So it made me feel i couldn't date asian men because their family wouldn't allow it.
they're really really shy and introverted, and passive. and they not just respect their family's orders of them, but feel Obligated to live their lives according to what their parents say. it's too much to be around. you dodge a bullet tbh
So you gave up after one try?
Welcome to man's world where rejection is common.
have u had a asian bf?
@@gaymer-j that's just the stereotype and is pretty far from the truth
@@fmz0507 bro I literally have had 2 Asian exes and been around their families and everyone acts like that. they are so obedient to their parents, it's so much to deal with. it's just best to not. imo. which is why I understand why many avoid Asian men, in that regard. harsh, but I understand why many avoid
Nah as an Asian dude dating any girls is equally as hard because they each have their own individuality separate from race. Dating is never suppose to easy, but that doesn't make it impossible, if you just give up because something is difficult then the only person to blame is yourself.
I'm white and I love Asian men ❤
What kind of Asian? Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Indian etc
I am a white gen x female and I am open to Asian men for sure. I had an asian boyfriend and he was great. You guys are good enough on your own, you don't need to cuss. Just an observation.
great point about how it's not the race that's so much the issue but the perception of the majority. if you better yourself, get in shape, and develop a personality, you will attract any ethnicity. people are always complaining about how it's the media's responsibility to change the perception but it's really OUR own.
Bart really nailed it! I was like Bart too, I had a very multicultural upbringing until I got older then mainly hung out with fellow Asian Americans... and it was a really different universe. It was great being friends but romantic systems really screwed me over bc I didn't fit in to the typical Asian American stereotype for physically "attractive" Asian girl 🥲 took me a long time to understand this! Bart put it into words so nicely!
Koi ptt
Body wise? Facial? What makes you non conventionally attractive for asians
my whole life I always wanted to have friends from all different races. I am white, female, and I would not consider myself that great looking but...segway, I always thought that would be so neat because I love to learn about different cultures as I don't really have one. I may be Texan but I mean it's like what could I share "Hey Y'all, it's city life, pretty much the same everywhere?" So I feel like I miss out on a lot. But I always felt like if I tried to approach someone of a different race than me, that it was like...whoa what are you doing here? I do hope one day we can all just be friends and stuff and it doesn't matter, because I think that would be really awesome.
18:05 Joe spitting facts.
Overall this was actually a really good conversation and spot on in so many ways.
my bfs friends apparently argued and ended their friendship over a white girl. since i grew up my whole life surrounded by white ppl, i thought it was ridiculous they put her on a pedestal and ended their bond because of that. they grew up in a predomimately asian community too. coming from an adoptee, idk why asians put white people on a pedestal and then wonder why theres so much racism. just treat ppl as ppl. my bfs other friend literally said to my bf when he met me "i was going to high five you because i thought your girl was white" (my last name is obviously a white name) ???????? and this was during a meeting for his wedding. with an asian girl. he said that in front of both of us.
Most white woman do not even want half asian kids or marry asian men. It's just a phase.
It’s not hard for asian men to attract women that aren’t asian. I see it more now than ever before. There are so many factors to this conversation it would take months to even come up with a half ass explanation that is probably going to be based off of stereotypes and stigmas. There are plenty of Asian men who have non Asian women. You just don’t see them as much because america has about 3% Asian population. Naturally you will see the larger demographic such as white,Hispanic and black in an interracial relationship.
I see Asian women with white men everywhere! So the 3% argument doesn't make sense!
That is true
I think you guys might have recency and west coast bias... this is coming from a Chinese guy who guy up in michigan and is currently married to an Italian. I remember quite a few times in elementary school and high school my white and black crushes would say "sorry I am not in to chinese guys" or weird left handed compliments like "OH you are cutie for an asian". College in Ohio was a bit better but there were times I would get the sorry not in asian guys comments again. Not saying I never had gfs before my wife but it always felt like I had to put 10xs the work than my non Asian guy friends.... Hearing girls say those things as early as 10 years old can really mess with your head as you develop. Plus the little dick stereotype didn't help either... kids and teenages can be so cruel at times. One last point was that it also didn't help that it seem like Asian girls didn't have as much trouble... Love the convo...
I dealt with the same thing. I found latinas like Asians the most
@@jialian93 true we do!
@@Michelle-rdz17 thank you for appreciating us
@@jialian93 np! :)
Of course we asian girls don't have that problem .a small genital make us more disarable.thats the difference
I'm 40 and I would say times now are different because American/white girls and to be honest all non Asian women are more open minded to Asian guys. I grew late 90s and early 2000s and the perception of Asian guys was not like it is now. I still dated outside however there was more hurdles to overcome.
yeah because of kpop and kdramas
I’m glad you guys made some sort of mention of other ethnicities, because continuously lusting after white people is just getting goofy at this point.
Also Bart was spot on with the need to know how to simply interact with other communities before even entertaining the idea of romance.
really tho
Jealous
Not all whites look good though
Jealous over what?
@@SM-lq8rj Did you watch the video?
Non asian here, but ALWAYS interested in great convos, thanks fr sharing guys...
Also to the fans let's keep liking so we can get to 2M subs this years!!
Yea, Americans are OBSESSED with race and ethnicity way too much. So much to the point that this becomes the only indicator in their mind whether they can form a relationship with another or not. I remember getting to know a group of Asian-Americans in Japan and how they were talking about how they couldnt find a partner despite being the same “Asian race” as the locals here. They could barely even speak in casual Japanese to make friends with native Japanese people outside of formal settings. They didn’t understand any cultural references, Japanese behavior, common trends and such to connect with the people. They thought that being “Asian” was enough for them lol
Interesting, but remember that America is literally formed by people from all over the world. So I say America just reflects what's in the heart of most people that they don't want to admit to. Americans are just upfront about their prejudices. The truth is people in general are tribalistic and don't like change because it takes you out of your comfort zone.
Perhaps, but they're also upfront about it. It's not like Japan doesn't have it's issues with racism. It does, they're just less likely to talk about it. Racism is everywhere.
Btw, white people often don't understand Japanese culture either, and many Japanese still date them. Japanese are also more inclined to date a white person over a black person. I'm not trying to prop up white people here, just pointing out that the Japanese see race too.
Edit: forgot to add something.
@@shanchan8247 What does America being formed by people from all over the world have anything to do with the prejudice in their hearts? This is exactly what I mean when I said that race and ethnicity becomes the INDICATOR.
@@monkeybusiness3784 I think you completely missed the point. When I said that Americans are obsessed with race, this becomes the only go to factor when they are “upfront” about relationships. There’s other factors such as cultural mindset, social awareness, specific lingos etc that is more important in relationships, yet it gets completely thrown out of the discussion for Americans. Theres nothing “upfront” about that, rather makes them look stupid or cowardly for not being able to talk about it and would rather just blame race(easiest indicator to differentiate people).
Is there any statistics of Japanese people dating white people? Because in terms of marriages, international relationships are extremely rare in Japan and the few times it does happen are with Chinese or Korean nationals that lived in Japan long enough to understand the cultural references, Japanese behavior, and trends that help get them close with Japanese people. Marriages between Japanese and people from western countries are very rare for both men and women currently. Im pretty sure a foreigner(regardless of race) who has lived in Japan for years and know how to connect with the locals(cultural, mindsets, language etc.) has a way better chance of finding a Japanese partner than a Asian American that just depends on their race.
Also, where did you get this idea of Japanese being inclined to date white person over a black person based on their race and not mentioning the other factors that are involved? You just proved my point. Do Japanese people see race? Probably so, they have eyes just like anyone else. But they also have sophisticated/complex priorities when dating such as closeness, communication(verbal and non-verbal), affinity, sharing the same cultural mindset and behaviors etc that completely takes over something so simple as “race”. Americans(especially the ones that lack dating experience) completely miss this part and focus 100% on race alone. Thats the problem.
@@shanchan8247Naahh it’s not like that in the UK. Not as severe as americans
I’m mixed race (Latinx/Caucasian) and I love the Asian persuasion. Cambodian, Chinese, Vietnamese, Philippine, Korean, Japanese all got it going on🔥🔥🔥
Same. I love Asian guys. Especially the orientals. 😍❤️
My cousin is Filipino but born and grew up in the US. He's a software engineer and earns a lot of money. He's wife works at a local salon. They're happy together with 3 beautiful kids. 🙂
Is she white
@@troigcyusa Yes, she is.
Hearing stories of Asian American’s parents, I always get a feeling that Asian Americans are alot more traditional compared to the actual Asians back in Asia. The common “Asian stereotypes” Asian Americans talk about like your parents wanting you to be a doctor or a lawyer is something that already died out in Asia back in the 1950s-60s. Also having to be worried about your gf/bf not being accepted by your parents. Thats almost unthinkable for modern Asians back in Asia. Its like Asian Americans retained that old school mentality that our grandparents had.
And I never understood why Asian Americans automatically put white girls on a pedestal while being afraid of their family members. Like why would you be worried about your white girlfriend’s parents if they accept you or not? Is this something to do with inferiority complex that minorities in the US go through? Do Asian American guys even want to date white girls? Or is it just a status thing within American society that they’re trying to compete in?
It appears to be a status symbol among non white guys for some reason.
@@shanchan8247 i think black women think white men are special of something. I saw many swirlers and divestors on tik tok and most of them are black women.
well non white races are usually attracted to white beauty natural aesthetic. But they know the drag with pursuing that would most likely not worth it. On the other hand in the same lense that caucasian males/non-asian male counterpart are aesthetically attracted to Asian-American beauty or straight up oriental physically as well due to key hole ratio😂 ill put it up a notch, SEA men dreams of russian beauty more then any other trust me😅 they’d instantly forget white american in a heartbeat.
@@marcjanverdelantar9605 Reminds me of how actual Asians from Asian countries often make fun of Asian-American beauty standards lol. Also how alot of them are confused at the type of preference western guys have for asian girls.
That stereotype didn’t die out lmao. What are you talking about. I was born in 96. many of my friends and I were expected to become doctors or white collared workers
I'm Filipino and I have always lived in a diverse community but with fewer Asians. I have only dated white girls. My siblings are married to non Asians. I married a Swedish national of mediterean descent so basically a darker shade of white. She also has lived in a community of diversity and can speak 5 languages. My parents have never told us to date a certain race. Im attracted mostly to mediterean such as Greek, Cyprus and then Lebanese, Armenian girls.
Also my Wife always had a thing for Asian guys. So when she met a 6'2 tall Asian(me) it was a plus.
Being tall definitely helps. You are an anomaly for a Filipino. Most of us, my included, are much shorter (I'm 5'5", which is more typical of a Filipino male)....which doesn't' help when the US male beauty standard requires men to be tall.
@@armynurseboy yea my cousins are also tall. My daughter who's 14 is 5'8" and she's still growing. I estimate she will be around 6'. Her mom is 5'5"
@@Joe-eg7ml My bro is 5''6". His American wife is 5'1. Their daughter is obviously mestiza, but is blonde like her mom and is expected to be like 5'8" when she finishes growing. She must have found that one Spanish gene in my dad....😅
@@armynurseboy that's good. It's good to be taller. When I'm in Sweden I feel average, USA i feel above average, and in Philippines I'm a giant...lol.
@@Joe-eg7ml just rub it in......😉😆
Sorry not sorry but I love how beautiful Asian men are!!
Thats cap lol
Well that's nice to know 😊
So glad you guys stopped fu*king around long enough to have this super cool convo! 🎉🎉🎉
I think koreans have contributed alot in breaking the hollywood asian stereotype and have lifted the confidence of asians in the west.
Latino here , very insightful talk you guys have . I dated two Filipina chicks pretty cool experience and learn some things Asians are dope although sometimes I feel like I can’t fit in .
I'm just curious about this question. Growing up on both sides of the United States. Westside (California/Washington St.) and Eastside (North Carolina / Kentucky), I noticed a difference dating. While living in California and Washington State, I dated more Asian and Pacific Islander women while living on the East Coast (North Carolina/Kentucky) it was the opposite. I had more chances of dating a white woman or any other race outside the Asian nationality. I believe it's where you live. I just ❤️ living in a diverse community.
In ethnimasochism Community Bro
It is No talent
Yall fantasize over White Women more than White men do. Just silly.
Really? I went to college in Kentucky in the late 90s. A lot the locals looked as us funny.
Asian guy having grown up in Central Europe. We discussed interracial couples at the University maybe 15 years ago already. Now there are more and more Asians in this country including many Sri Lankans, Indians, Thai, Vietnamese, some Korean, Chinese and Japanese. Asian friends I know are usually dating anybody but Asian chicks. And on the side of the girls that was already the case, when we did surveys back in time. My sister married a German too and I never dated Asians, as they sneezed at my because of many things including height. The newer breed of Asians is now tall too thanks to changes in diet and thus they have much better card in the dating game. K-Pop and K-Dramas are very popular amongst the millenials and Gen-Z. Yet, let's not forget that the girls want exactly that K-pop boygroup look. Dating was always ultra tough for me, but I recognize, that younger generations have it easier. The local gyms are finally loaded with Asians, so it looks like "we" will do better than ever.
It’s crazy how as you refer to “non-Asian”, you mainly refer to white girls. It’s not often that you see a man of Asian descent dating black women. I know that there are couples like this but not to often.
Thank you jknews for bring back different topics and giving out your each individual opinion on the subject at hand, I love the fucking around and jokes, seeing different point of view's are good too!
I've heard it's harder for Asians to date a black person. Parents will accept a white person as a partner over a black person every time out the gate normally. And not just with Asians but most races actually. Darker skin is interpreted as lower class in most cultures, that's why bleaching products are top selling in Asia.
Black families would also prefer a white person over an Asian person! Stop making it look like Black people aren't racist towards Asians.
Not my Family. We have and like tan/gold/darker tones.
I think it’s more dependent on culture instead of race. I know that most white girls that date or marry Asian guys tend to be conservative or right leaning white women. They are a lot more open minded than women who are liberal or progressive. Cultural assimilation is key. It seems like many people specifically those that hold left wing views tend to view everything as race related which often creates this illusion barrier
Because Asian's blossom late in life. 30's is where you start to really look like a man , but a young man in his 20's. 40's you look like a matured man, but still young. Our super power has always been longevity. But it takes patience to benefit from it. So be patient.
I feel sorry for Asian guys who are into white women. That’s a tough game. As an Asian guy, I’m glad to find Asian women the most attractive.
Even if they are into white women that doesn't mean they are not gonna date with Asian women!!!🤦we all know Asian guys will just use white women for exotic experience
This was a problem 15-20 yrs ago. Today it's a non issue. People were just afraid to connect with each other.
I’m a Pacific Islander and lived in Augusta Georgia for a few years. Dating there was definitely harder for me because of the cultural differences. White and black people dated most and third most was latino. Being a Pacific Islander it was like being a fish out of water
I think that’s the key point, nerds hang with nerds, jocks with jocks, and so forth. There was only like 7 other Asian kids in my school. It was mostly white, Mexican, and natives (and like 3 black kids). We all hung out with each other based on interests.
@7:00 what bart said is true its about the cultures and settings. I’m Filipino immigrant in SoCal my first gf was Mexican other race does like Asians men and women
We're all humans, the differences are cultural not racial. We have the exact same sensory apparatus and very similar cognition, aside from some minor genetic differences, we are almost exactly the same outside of experiences. Obviously we can all connect, even on a romantic level.
I want to see tv movies about Asian people that grow up in the hood.
You guys absolutely knocked it out of the park on this one.
It's just general preferences. I think most Chinese won't pursue Indian or black in general over a big sample size.
Gotta be willing to expose yourself to different cultures.
This is why traveling is so important.
Listening to different music, watching different movies etc..
Though movies can be tricky bc they usually play on stereotypes.
Im darker skinned south east Asian. I have a body of a muay thai fighter while looking like one since after all i did train as a boxer just not Muay Thai since we had no Muay Thai gyms in my area. My experience is that when i was younger (20 - 30's) i had a lot plenty of white women interested in me but as i got older (late 30's now) i've noticed very few white women interested in me. It doesnt help i look younger then i am and women tend to like older looking men especially as they age. Anyway i've never put white women on a pedestal and have never seen anything special about them for me to go out of my way to attract them. If anything i prefer other minority women as they at least understand what its like to live as one. Only problem is that minority women themselves have eyes only on white men and in many cases it doesnt even matter what the guy looks or behaves like as long as hes white
Nah don’t stress it, that’s the minority of minority women that only look at white dudes
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Thank you Joe for that information at the end…. Very convincing 🤣🤣😂😂
as a white man, I found this interesting to see what "the other side" deals with, and how big/little some issues are
French here and I can tell you it's the same. Grew up in public school, many different folks, Cambodian, Laotian, Algerian, Turkish, Portuguese...etc my first crush when I was a kid was that Cambodian boy, he taught me how to play with pokemon cards and marbles, he was the only one I would write about in my journal lol. Never really thought about race since we would play all together (one of my white friend even had a Moroccan boyfriend) until Junior high. People started hanging out by ethnic groups, Turkish, Mahgreb, White and Asian were the main groups, not much black kids where I lived. I met my best friend at that time, she was a Laotian girl. Her parents completely disagreed about our friendship, she was not even allowed to hang out with me at school because I was white lmao. We didn't care any ways, we were in the sports club together and ended up going to her house in secret. Her parents eventually accepted our friendship, realising I was no thug, and later even allowed me in their house. First, only in the living room and finally, we were allowed to be in her room lol we would listen to music, talk about our celebrity crush and manga. She was here for me when I ended up in a hospital because of mental health issues. She skipped school to visit my mom and ask about me even though her parents were very strict about education. I wish everyone to have such a friend. It's been years we didn't talk to each other but we will meet again when I'll go back to France. Love you Linda ❤
Loved the way Joe broke down his experience and thought process on the subject.
Asian guy that grew up in suburban Florida. Literally only like 8 or 9 asian people in my whole high school, and even when I went to Uni, my classes were still primarily white. So I have only ever dated white women because that was really my only option. It feels more like a stereotype with self-inflicted limitations. I can't say for sure if its more difficult compared to dating an asian girl since I've never had any asian women around me that isn't family to date? I will say it was still pretty difficult to connect on a deeper level with the white women i've dated because they hadn't experienced a similar home life as mine so our conversations tended to not delve too deep into our upbringings.
Thank you for sharing!! 👏🏼👏🏼😁😁
It's a stigma from a long time ago. Masculinity in Asian culture is very different. This is stemming from the initial immigration in 1800's through the Chinese exclusion Act and Japanese internment. Now, Asian men are hitting media with major roles (Hollywood). If you ask an average American, "Name 3 Asian men in Hollywood (Alive) who represent a masculine man" , They will not be able to answer the question. I have written papers on this subject, and it is a very lengthy, complicated subject. Being in the east coast, my answers are very different.
Because the average citizen is not concerned with someone's dating life, if anything then probably Bruce Lee
Have a friend who pulled themselves out of depression and a bad financial spot, took many years. Lost all his friends. Some women will think it's a red flag but it's hard to say outright the work you put in, at that point it may just be easier to move to a new place or just lie and say you're new in town
I think it depends what kind of Asian.... I see alot of White girls dating Filipino guys here in the Bay Area. It's very common