Bingo. Second he said you're not like me. Yeah, he wasn't, but this is survival of the human race and he already had to kill 1300 people in one moment to protect that, what's one bad dude?
Notice how Lee shoots Phelan, but his goons don't retaliate. Phelan may not have cared about who Lee's father was, but bet your ass everyone else isn't going to risk Adama's wrath.
Lee made a counter-offer. The blackmarket stays in operation as long as no more lines are crossed. The goons didn't respond to Lee shooting Phelan because one of them was going to become the new head of the organization, so why risk it by turning on Lee?
I always find it strange when people say “You won’t shoot me. You’re not like me.”. The guy was talking to a military man that has been in actual combat where he has shot people. I think he knows what shooting people feels like.
BSG was a fantastic series, but one of it's biggest weaknesses was introducing some huge, fleet-wide problem and then solving it within the same episode. Sometimes this works okay, but BSG did it far too often. Some of the better plot threads were ones that spanned many episodes and were interwoven with other plot threads.
If I recall correctly from the DVD commentaries, this particular episode was the result of executive meddling. Ronald D. Moore thought a black market in the fleet was ridiculous, but even the guy in charge of a show has to do what his bosses want.
Not all of them. Some of the ships were armed, and small arms are so plentiful in private hands that the Articles of Colonization must have one hell of a strong 2A.
@@TommygunNG The few ships that had weapons were pitiful a handful of cylon raiders could easily wipe them out if it wasn't for the protection of Galactica and it's Vipers.
@@jamiestewart48 I thought I'd replied to this already. Agreed. My point was out lack of exclusivity, not civilian sufficiency. As for Galactica going its own way, it would never happen. Mutual dependency and humanitarianism from the son of a civil liberties attorney (Adama).
He has nothing if Apollo is found dead everyone on that ship is dead Galactica will just either turn it into a target or worse strip the ship and leave it for the cylons
I know it's just TV and a self enclosed episode at that but the whole thing was somewhat comical. How on earth did those goons make it off Pegasus after killing Fisk?! I know that Six did after killing Cain but that was an easy explanation floated in the show in that it was the chaotic aftermath of a battle. You'd assume security would have been tightened since then so Fisk would have been pretty safe and even if the Marine guards were paid off I still can't see how the goons would have got off the ship. Pegasus was shown to be crawling with CCTV and would have logs of everything coming in and out. You'd also assume Adama might have mobilised his Marines immediately to start upsetting every ship that's had people visit the Pegasus, you might even go as far to think the XO or another high ranking officer on Pegasus would have done this before Adama found out. Or maybe Adama just didn't like Fisk and decided to keep it all low key but even that wouldn't make sense as killing a senior officer in the Colonial Fleet undermines the military's authority and he'd need to send a clear message to everyone that this wouldn't be tolerated.
I've been thinking about that too and I have wondered if Fisk deliberately made security loose and sloppy so that he could conduct his black market business without leaving evidence of strange visitors and such.
I liked the concept of a black market developing in the fleet, I just hated it wasn't that built up for, nor were there any things done afterwards, it wasn't a subplot it was just... There.
Interesting thing is, that they all as a race are out in space, depending on the military to survive and protect them regardless of their status and the people from BLACK MARKET STILL FIND TIME TO ELIMINATE OFFICERS THEY DONT LIKE. Can't they think clearly?
This is one the things that bugged me about the series. Extinction, cylons, black market seemed low ln6 the priority list of plot devices. Untrustworthy black market people sure, but this some God father level shit.
Anyone remember the original series episode where they landed on a planet and the producers inverted the colors and then the characters commented on the weird atmosphere? Shut the frak up. This is not that bad.
They didn't show it, but at the end of this scene the woman basically screams at Lee and says she can't be who she needs him to be. Really bothered me. Lee just saved her and her daughter. What??? Why not simply say, "Thank you for saving me from being beaten up more and my daughter from sex trafficking!" This felt like a rare misstep from BSG which was otherwise such a great show.
I completely disagree. People are not perfect. She certainly wasn't. And she was right. He may have saved her, but he was another of her captors. He didn't want her for who she was, he wanted her to be the woman he lost. By his position in the ranks of the fleet, and by being the sole provider for what she needed, he litteraly had her under his control, wether he was aware or not. At this very moment, he freed her from her other captors, but she was still his prisoner. You see him as the good guy who saved her. She saw him as an abuser who killed another one thinking he was freeing her, when he wasn't, really. Sure, he was a lot better than the one he killed, but still. And it's OK. BSG isn't about good or bad guys. Just like in reality, everyone is in shades of grey. What Lee did here was toxic. He tried to justify it by giving her what he thought she needed, but in the end he was using her, juste like the others.
@@MannyLectro Hmm. You make some very good points I hadn't recognized before. Guess that's an angle I missed when I watched it. Thanks for explaining. And yes, you're right about BSG being about shades of gray. EDIT: that said and upon further reflection I'm not sure how what Lee did was "toxic" in saving her; perhaps you meant something else or maybe I'm missing something. Additionally, I think in this world we're _all_ captives because of the necessities of human existence, some of us more than others when the needed resources are absent or scarce for once reason or another - food, water, shelter, medicine, protection, connection, entertainment, and others - and the best we can usually and realistically achieve with few if any exceptions is the lightest thumb possible, and undeniably there are people that are not going to be happy no matter what you do and some situations are never going to make anyone happy and the only choice you're sometimes left with is being honest about how you really feel about it or hiding your pain. That's certainly another way of looking at the ending: her being honest with the one person she felt like she could safely be honest with, about how trapped she still felt in her situation despite being physically freed.
@@stormthrush37 BSG was always about making good guys less good and bad guys less bad. It was the political agenda of the makers from the beginning--which, I will remind everyone, was only a few years after 9/11. Recall Roslin considering her call on the Olympic Carrier a mistake (Episode: "33"). They even did the, "Blame the Colonies first" thing about the Cylon holocaust: Despite 38 years of Cylon violations of the armistice by not showing at the annual conference, Adama blames ONE single spy mission by the Colonies in response to those violations for the Cylon attack. That said, women can be that way.
@@dreamer2260 true, but people are know to go overboard in their reactions, even to the most minor of events, so something this large would likely magnify that even more
Buffled me that anyone was stupid enough to threaten Lee, a high ranking and most respected military officer, who has the confidence of the president, and probably most important: The son of the head of the military! The entire executive power of the fleet stands behind him!
I understand its a show, but help me out here. 2 civilian bad guys got on board a military battleship and kill the XO in his quarters. Then they were able to leave the Pegasus. All this while being undetected. Today this is equal to me, taking a helicopter and landing it on a Navy aircraft carrier in the middle of the ocean without being seen. Go to the XOs quarter, kill him and then take off again. Sure, got it. The Marines on the Pegasus must be the best of the best.
I believe at this point of the series the Galactica and especially the Pegasus was carrying civilians if not for housing, than for medical attention. It would not be unreasonable to think that two guys could hop on a transport that was already scheduled for a trip to the Pegasus. And to do so by cashing in favors of military personnel or blackmail if they made any embarrassing trades on the black market.
A story with Adama taking command of Pegasus and tigh being promoted would have been better. Still get all the drama and frak ups from tigh, and Adama just sweeping it under the rug like usual. And eventually tigh gets better and and the crew has to endore the whole process. Making Lee xo under tigh would have been a show worth exploring
Tight was too loyal to Adama to get a separated command..all he wanted was to remain by his friend and be his XO while avoiding command.. specially after his frakup in the Gideon incident
While Bill Duke did a great job in portraying Phelan, this was easily the weakest season 2 script. The fleet is a society without money and essentially only operates as a democracy because every morning Bill Adama wakes up and decides it will. The Battlestars are the only source of weapons, medicine, or renewables like water/food and also the only source of inter-ship transport. The idea that Phelan could bribe, much less intimidate, THE MILITARY is laughable. Organized crime in authoritarian or near-authoritarian societies survives by being on the good side of authority figures. Perhaps Phelan was so used to living in a liberal democracy that he thought he could hide behind due-process, but the decision to threaten Shevon rather than use her influence to cosy up to Lee was insane. This guy was thinking like an American mobster when he needed to think like a Russian one.
Every Batlestar holds enough cigarettes to last a large city for at least five years. They store them next to their endless supply of paper and artificial gravity generators.
It's a shame the show didn't explore the realities of the fleet outside of the military nearly enough imo. Conceptually, this had the potential to be one of the best episodes.
Every time i rewatch, i skip this one. UPD: actually, the whole show goes downhill from here on. Season 1 was awesome. Season 2 has a couple of bad episodes. Season is 50/50, season 4...oh my.
He might be a crackhead, but he's still right. Season 3 has it's moments, but it drags after the escape from New Caprica until the Trial. And season 4 is just disapointing. Those last 10 episodes really screwed the pooch.
No, you're both on crack. While Season 3 dragged a bit, as did parts of Season 4, it was still better than anything else on tv then and, certainly, now. Every show has it's down times. Even B5, a show that was planned out from the beginning, had it's boring spots but in general, it works out.
@@MaraIndigoJade Sorry guy, but ending the series by waving your hands and shouting "ANGELS!!" destroyed the final season. Not to mention randomly picking 5 names out of a hat and retconning their histories so they can retroactively become secret cylons.
@@TotinosPizzaRollz As funny as that Robot Chicken sketch was, I seriously doubt ol' Ronnie Moore was that inept at writing the series. As I said, all series' have their flaws but compared to the rest of the drivel on tv at the time, it's a freakin masterpiece. It wasn't perfect and yes, the whole starbuck is an angel and disappears because her job is done thing was a reach but it was still entertaining and I'm pretty sure all of you complaining were still on the edge waiting to find out what would happen next, just like the rest of us plebs.
I have to agree, to a point. With every series, you have those 'filler' episodes just for something to be published for the week. This is indeed a 'filler' episode.
If they had killed lee the fleet would have been exterminated by the galactica and pegasus. Honestly this part of the show was incredibly unrealistic as the military would just stomp out anyone that did anything like this.
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"You're not gonna shoot me."
This guy shot down the Olympic Carrier.
Bingo. Second he said you're not like me. Yeah, he wasn't, but this is survival of the human race and he already had to kill 1300 people in one moment to protect that, what's one bad dude?
Notice how Lee shoots Phelan, but his goons don't retaliate. Phelan may not have cared about who Lee's father was, but bet your ass everyone else isn't going to risk Adama's wrath.
Course they won't last long when Galactica turns it's guns and marines on the ship
Lee made a counter-offer. The blackmarket stays in operation as long as no more lines are crossed. The goons didn't respond to Lee shooting Phelan because one of them was going to become the new head of the organization, so why risk it by turning on Lee?
"You're not going to shoot me"
The last words of a guy who got shot.
To be fair his last words were "You're not gonna" makes that too good.
Better than “this magic rock will protect me!” 🤷♂️
He had to keep his secret.
Should be his epitaph
"What are you gonna do, stab me?" -Stabbed guy
7:55 I love this scene. Just seeing the classic "you won't kill me because you're a good guy" scene turned on its head is so cool.
I always find it strange when people say “You won’t shoot me. You’re not like me.”. The guy was talking to a military man that has been in actual combat where he has shot people. I think he knows what shooting people feels like.
There's a significant difference between engaging an enemy combatant in a military operation, and murdering someone in cold blood.
I see Lee eats Green Berets for breakfast too.
LOL LMFAO
Yesssss!
Bill Duke plays great villian roles!!
3:59 the strangulation looks so real, the neck vines
"You're not like me"
The Olympic Carrier begs to differ
BSG was a fantastic series, but one of it's biggest weaknesses was introducing some huge, fleet-wide problem and then solving it within the same episode. Sometimes this works okay, but BSG did it far too often. Some of the better plot threads were ones that spanned many episodes and were interwoven with other plot threads.
It's just a TV show man, relax the head.
Seán O'Nilbud what are you even trying to say? Jesus....
@ What do they need to relax for? Does bringing up reasonable points about the show's writing make you uncomfortable?
If I recall correctly from the DVD commentaries, this particular episode was the result of executive meddling. Ronald D. Moore thought a black market in the fleet was ridiculous, but even the guy in charge of a show has to do what his bosses want.
Dead guy : You're not gonna shoot.
Lee : My daddy has all the real guns, so frak you.
😂
Not all of them. Some of the ships were armed, and small arms are so plentiful in private hands that the Articles of Colonization must have one hell of a strong 2A.
@@TommygunNG Yeah, let's see how the fleet gets on without Galactica and it's military if they go their own way and don't share jump coordinates.
@@TommygunNG The few ships that had weapons were pitiful a handful of cylon raiders could easily wipe them out if it wasn't for the protection of Galactica and it's Vipers.
@@jamiestewart48 I thought I'd replied to this already.
Agreed. My point was out lack of exclusivity, not civilian sufficiency.
As for Galactica going its own way, it would never happen. Mutual dependency and humanitarianism from the son of a civil liberties attorney (Adama).
"All he needs is an *Excuse* to vent this ship"
I love how he cuts to the chase there. He has no power.
He has nothing if Apollo is found dead everyone on that ship is dead Galactica will just either turn it into a target or worse strip the ship and leave it for the cylons
Such a small roll with a huge impact. Such an underrated actor
This episode rocked. I am such a sucker for a hard-boiled detective vibe. Great way to shake up the narrative and add depth to the survivor society.
I know it's just TV and a self enclosed episode at that but the whole thing was somewhat comical. How on earth did those goons make it off Pegasus after killing Fisk?! I know that Six did after killing Cain but that was an easy explanation floated in the show in that it was the chaotic aftermath of a battle.
You'd assume security would have been tightened since then so Fisk would have been pretty safe and even if the Marine guards were paid off I still can't see how the goons would have got off the ship. Pegasus was shown to be crawling with CCTV and would have logs of everything coming in and out. You'd also assume Adama might have mobilised his Marines immediately to start upsetting every ship that's had people visit the Pegasus, you might even go as far to think the XO or another high ranking officer on Pegasus would have done this before Adama found out.
Or maybe Adama just didn't like Fisk and decided to keep it all low key but even that wouldn't make sense as killing a senior officer in the Colonial Fleet undermines the military's authority and he'd need to send a clear message to everyone that this wouldn't be tolerated.
I've been thinking about that too and I have wondered if Fisk deliberately made security loose and sloppy so that he could conduct his black market business without leaving evidence of strange visitors and such.
I liked the concept of a black market developing in the fleet, I just hated it wasn't that built up for, nor were there any things done afterwards, it wasn't a subplot it was just... There.
Interesting thing is, that they all as a race are out in space, depending on the military to survive and protect them regardless of their status and the people from BLACK MARKET STILL FIND TIME TO ELIMINATE OFFICERS THEY DONT LIKE. Can't they think clearly?
@@danielschoch4881 I never thought of it, and now that I do I'm angrier.
@@danielschoch4881 Also: How? How did Doc Cottle & Balter NEVER run of out cigarettes???????
This is one the things that bugged me about the series. Extinction, cylons, black market seemed low ln6 the priority list of plot devices. Untrustworthy black market people sure, but this some God father level shit.
I "like" that there was a black market run by a (ahem) "black" guy. Not cool, BSG. Not cool . . . .
"You won't" oh fuck he did kthxbai.
Anyone remember the original series episode where they landed on a planet and the producers inverted the colors and then the characters commented on the weird atmosphere?
Shut the frak up. This is not that bad.
Samson Crosswood
I distinctly remember BirdPeople in OG Galactica
😂 frakking CHOZO 🐥
No bird people on og BSG; that was Buck Rogers, season 2.
The episode you speak of is where they mert Count Iblis, the "fallen angel" . . . .
They didn't show it, but at the end of this scene the woman basically screams at Lee and says she can't be who she needs him to be. Really bothered me. Lee just saved her and her daughter. What??? Why not simply say, "Thank you for saving me from being beaten up more and my daughter from sex trafficking!" This felt like a rare misstep from BSG which was otherwise such a great show.
I completely disagree. People are not perfect. She certainly wasn't. And she was right. He may have saved her, but he was another of her captors. He didn't want her for who she was, he wanted her to be the woman he lost. By his position in the ranks of the fleet, and by being the sole provider for what she needed, he litteraly had her under his control, wether he was aware or not. At this very moment, he freed her from her other captors, but she was still his prisoner.
You see him as the good guy who saved her. She saw him as an abuser who killed another one thinking he was freeing her, when he wasn't, really. Sure, he was a lot better than the one he killed, but still.
And it's OK. BSG isn't about good or bad guys. Just like in reality, everyone is in shades of grey. What Lee did here was toxic. He tried to justify it by giving her what he thought she needed, but in the end he was using her, juste like the others.
@@MannyLectro Hmm. You make some very good points I hadn't recognized before. Guess that's an angle I missed when I watched it. Thanks for explaining. And yes, you're right about BSG being about shades of gray.
EDIT: that said and upon further reflection I'm not sure how what Lee did was "toxic" in saving her; perhaps you meant something else or maybe I'm missing something. Additionally, I think in this world we're _all_ captives because of the necessities of human existence, some of us more than others when the needed resources are absent or scarce for once reason or another - food, water, shelter, medicine, protection, connection, entertainment, and others - and the best we can usually and realistically achieve with few if any exceptions is the lightest thumb possible, and undeniably there are people that are not going to be happy no matter what you do and some situations are never going to make anyone happy and the only choice you're sometimes left with is being honest about how you really feel about it or hiding your pain. That's certainly another way of looking at the ending: her being honest with the one person she felt like she could safely be honest with, about how trapped she still felt in her situation despite being physically freed.
@@stormthrush37 BSG was always about making good guys less good and bad guys less bad. It was the political agenda of the makers from the beginning--which, I will remind everyone, was only a few years after 9/11. Recall Roslin considering her call on the Olympic Carrier a mistake (Episode: "33"). They even did the, "Blame the Colonies first" thing about the Cylon holocaust: Despite 38 years of Cylon violations of the armistice by not showing at the annual conference, Adama blames ONE single spy mission by the Colonies in response to those violations for the Cylon attack.
That said, women can be that way.
@@MannyLectro I think that's a bit overboard.
@@dreamer2260 true, but people are know to go overboard in their reactions, even to the most minor of events, so something this large would likely magnify that even more
8:20 "Remind yourself, that Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer"
"You're not gonna shoot me..."
Think again Mr Duke!
an amazing Bill Duke, too bad we had him for such a short time on the show.
Buffled me that anyone was stupid enough to threaten Lee, a high ranking and most respected military officer, who has the confidence of the president, and probably most important: The son of the head of the military! The entire executive power of the fleet stands behind him!
captain isn't that high ranking in the colonial fleet.
Love that Bill Duke!!!
Love how the doc is like the only one who smokes on the show hahaha Well I think Baltar does too
When taunting the only Lawful Good character in the party backfires spectacularly.
”We'll take Cooke's ship; he won't be needing it."
"They wanted to know what we've been talking about-- been talking about," . . . .
Glitches at 3:00
Glitches in the matrix
Shit got real.
Yeah, there are glitches and framerate issues all over the uploads on this channel.
I understand its a show, but help me out here. 2 civilian bad guys got on board a military battleship and kill the XO in his quarters. Then they were able to leave the Pegasus. All this while being undetected.
Today this is equal to me, taking a helicopter and landing it on a Navy aircraft carrier in the middle of the ocean without being seen. Go to the XOs quarter, kill him and then take off again. Sure, got it. The Marines on the Pegasus must be the best of the best.
I believe at this point of the series the Galactica and especially the Pegasus was carrying civilians if not for housing, than for medical attention. It would not be unreasonable to think that two guys could hop on a transport that was already scheduled for a trip to the Pegasus. And to do so by cashing in favors of military personnel or blackmail if they made any embarrassing trades on the black market.
Fisk was commander of Pegasus not XO by that point.
Bill Duke!
This episode might be the worst episode of Galactica but, at least anyone didn't turn into a salamander.
Hahahaha well played.
Battle Star Galactica is what Voyager could have been
@@artygunnar And Lost in Space is what happens when all your Viper pilots and scientists take acid.
Galactica should've looked brand new when it found earth
@@bjornjosephand they should've started the series with a finite and exact quantity of missiles and then never addressed the limitation again
Fisk was also a charracter in Mass Effect.
Welp at least Kane's second in command got what he deserved.
A story with Adama taking command of Pegasus and tigh being promoted would have been better. Still get all the drama and frak ups from tigh, and Adama just sweeping it under the rug like usual. And eventually tigh gets better and and the crew has to endore the whole process. Making Lee xo under tigh would have been a show worth exploring
Tight was too loyal to Adama to get a separated command..all he wanted was to remain by his friend and be his XO while avoiding command.. specially after his frakup in the Gideon incident
Tigh is a useless drunk and always will be.
Safe. Excellent security!
Handing out dirt naps to petty criminals with delusions of invincibility... now that's soldiering!
While Bill Duke did a great job in portraying Phelan, this was easily the weakest season 2 script. The fleet is a society without money and essentially only operates as a democracy because every morning Bill Adama wakes up and decides it will. The Battlestars are the only source of weapons, medicine, or renewables like water/food and also the only source of inter-ship transport. The idea that Phelan could bribe, much less intimidate, THE MILITARY is laughable. Organized crime in authoritarian or near-authoritarian societies survives by being on the good side of authority figures. Perhaps Phelan was so used to living in a liberal democracy that he thought he could hide behind due-process, but the decision to threaten Shevon rather than use her influence to cosy up to Lee was insane. This guy was thinking like an American mobster when he needed to think like a Russian one.
You can look at Lee face don't estimate me
Where have I seen him before?
Commando as well
Predator.
Not the best but good episode.
Where the hell do they get cigarettes?
Every Batlestar holds enough cigarettes to last a large city for at least five years. They store them next to their endless supply of paper and artificial gravity generators.
@@theshlauf Don't forget the bottomless supply of high quality booze.
CORRECTION: “Your favorite moments” should not have any clips from this episode. It’s the only one to skip entirely in the series.
It's a shame the show didn't explore the realities of the fleet outside of the military nearly enough imo. Conceptually, this had the potential to be one of the best episodes.
The lesson here: don't push someone called "Adama" too far.
Wasn’t he colonial one’s co-pilot in the miniseries
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Code of Honor 2
NCIS BSG style.
e bet it all on one hand one too many times
I'm in Salem Alabama right now.
OMG Now there's going to be riots.
Frak but violence is not a taboo.
0:31
For fraks sake woman, conceal yourself
😉
This episode and the episode The Woman King are the 2 worst episode of the entire series. At least in my opinion.
I love women. What can I say? Lol!
Probably the worst episode of the series
Scar
Every time i rewatch, i skip this one.
UPD: actually, the whole show goes downhill from here on. Season 1 was awesome. Season 2 has a couple of bad episodes. Season is 50/50, season 4...oh my.
You're on crack
He might be a crackhead, but he's still right. Season 3 has it's moments, but it drags after the escape from New Caprica until the Trial. And season 4 is just disapointing. Those last 10 episodes really screwed the pooch.
No, you're both on crack. While Season 3 dragged a bit, as did parts of Season 4, it was still better than anything else on tv then and, certainly, now. Every show has it's down times. Even B5, a show that was planned out from the beginning, had it's boring spots but in general, it works out.
@@MaraIndigoJade Sorry guy, but ending the series by waving your hands and shouting "ANGELS!!" destroyed the final season. Not to mention randomly picking 5 names out of a hat and retconning their histories so they can retroactively become secret cylons.
@@TotinosPizzaRollz As funny as that Robot Chicken sketch was, I seriously doubt ol' Ronnie Moore was that inept at writing the series. As I said, all series' have their flaws but compared to the rest of the drivel on tv at the time, it's a freakin masterpiece. It wasn't perfect and yes, the whole starbuck is an angel and disappears because her job is done thing was a reach but it was still entertaining and I'm pretty sure all of you complaining were still on the edge waiting to find out what would happen next, just like the rest of us plebs.
Easily BSG's worst episode.
Robert Johnson The biggest crime committed in this episode was underutilizing Bear McCreary's piece "Black Market".
I agree. That episode was a pain in the ass. It's the only one that I invariably end up skipping when I rewatch the show.
I don't remember it, but it looks dumb
I have to agree, to a point. With every series, you have those 'filler' episodes just for something to be published for the week. This is indeed a 'filler' episode.
The worst one for me was chief's union episode - at least this one developed lee as a character
Such a dumb concept.
If they had killed lee the fleet would have been exterminated by the galactica and pegasus. Honestly this part of the show was incredibly unrealistic as the military would just stomp out anyone that did anything like this.
Not the fleet just that one ship
I loved this show but its a shame they didn't develop the black characters. That is the trouble with the TV and movie industry.
kind of like the Bidens cartel
I hate most of the new BSG. This episode was nowhere neaer bad, only average. Stop the hate. No angels, no God, no nonsense.
Exactly, it was way better than some of the later storylines.
Alright im gonna say it, this episode is the worst in the series.
ermagahd! I'm Firtht!!!!
Not like it matters...
Nah it doesn't
It's fun to mock the people who do it
Couldn't agree more
Worst episode of the whole series.
Worst episode of the entire show.