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I feel like this video reinforces a lot of negative stereotypes about the Montessori method. A classroom isn't "all mixed up", the kids stay in the same class for three years, where the older kids mentor the younger ones, which teaches them a lot of very important social skills. Secondly, very young children have a hard time distinguishing between fantasy and reality, so fantasy is usually introduced after the age of six. There have also been scientific studies that children often feel betrayed and lied to when they find out that so many things they were taught are simply not true. It can also teach your child that lying is okay because you've kinda lied to them for years. Besides that, open ended play is very much encouraged, dolls, stuffed animals, train tracks, building blocks...... It's just that the child always has the option to choose something else as well. Children are born with an innate curiosity and need to learn and teach themselves. They will choose activities with a different learning value at some point, even if it takes more than a day of playing with the same thing over and over again. Especially for kids that have a different intellectual level than the average child (higher or lower) Montessori can be an amazing experience because they can learn everything at their own pace. You said that children can choose their own activities, which is true, but there is a limit. First of all, there's lesson introductions, where you show your child what the intended use of the activity is and go through the motions with them. Then, if you notice that they are not at all interested in said activity, you set out another activity on their shelf that teaches similar principles e.g. a different counting toy, until you find something your child is comfortable with and enjoys doing. My personal reason for not choosing a Waldorf education is the fact that our family has a long history of being bored in school and our natural learning process being inhibited by long lessons about things we had already mastered. I've come to the conclusion that my children would probably be quite bored in a Waldorf classroom, although I do use some Waldorf principles at home with my children as well, because it just ended up working for my family and my children. For example, I don't call playing work, because I've never really understood the reasoning behind that, and we do fictional stories and often use our imagination. Different to the Waldorf principle, I have conversations with my kids afterwards about what was real and what was not. We make a clear distinction between fantasy and reality, in order to not confuse the children. Another important Montessori principle is to always give the child an answer to whatever question they have. They must feel respected, loved, valued and understood in the family/classroom, so whatever question they have will be answered correctly. The Montessori method uses positive discipline, just like the Waldorf method (I think), so the biggest difference is really just fantasy and the classroom settings, where children in a Montessori classroom generally get to choose their own activities and rarely have to sit in a circle while the teacher talks about something. The kids are taught individually or in small groups and activities like being read to that require a grown - up are usually done at home with the parents, although there are definitely exceptions. In my personal opinion, each family has to choose their own mix and match that works for them. Fully Waldorf is probably not ideal for your child's development and neither is 100% Montessori. Sorry for the long comment, I was kinda annoyed at first but then that faded and I probably explained some stuff twice.....
I believe that there can be a peaceful/exciting combination of Waldorf and Montessori, using the Montessori teaching method and using Waldorf materials for lessons. It would be so great!
I visited a public montessori school and i believe, and please correct me if i’m wrong, but a class has 3 grades. What’s interesting is that the older grades who have “mastered” the skills then tutor the ones who need help. It is almost like a little workplace
Hi, thank you very much for your comment. Sadly I do not remember exactly how that works. It is years ago that my little sister has left the Montessori school. But I do remember that the older kids were supposed to inspire the younger ones. I wish you a beautiful day. 💕 Josephine
Yes. You are correct. Each class is called a cycle. And there is generally a three year age gap between the childern. This starts from early education and it allows childern to learn at their own pace with no pressure of being at the standard of the peers. And yes, if a child has mastered the task, they can help those who haven't yet.
@@deeplydeepali I also like that part of it too. The system as a whole has alot of pros and cons. I think the pros out weighs the cons in theory. But unfortunately from my experience that completely comes as a relief worker in a toodler community located within a school, I found in the actual setting the cons are greater in the pros. However. I feel like the building I was working in was poorly designed, that played a huge role in my cons. And the staff all had different levels of strictness when it came to the Montessori rules
@@deeplydeepali Yes, but sadly it doesn't always work out for everyone. My parents took my sister from the Montessori school after she was not able to read and write with the age of 10.
Hola! me gustó mucho tu video, explicas muy claro las diferencias. Llegué acá en mi búsqueda de que educación es la que yo pienso es la correcta para mi hija de a penas 3 meses, y según lo que he averiguando, al igual que tú me inclino más por la educación waldorf. Pero para mi bebé, como aún es muy pequeña, me han gustado más los juguetes montessori, que los puedo fabricar yo. saludos de chile.
There are no Montessori school in Finland, so the only decision is between the "normal school" and Waldorf. Interesting is that they have become closer to each other since I went to school, many things from Waldorf are common practises now in "normal schools", for example starting to learn foreign language in first grade or all of the students having same subjects (not like wood work for boys and knitting for girls like it was twenty years ago).
Thanks for the video! I have a question; Is it correct that at Waldorf children are not learning how to read and write until the age of 7? And is it also true that from the age of 7 they are not only learning to read and write their native language but also two foreign languages? Thanks again!
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Thank you so much for your video! I have a question. What are those 'nomi doors' you were mentioning? I've never heard of them. Love the idea though!:)
Hi Alexandra, thank you very much for your comment. In German we are calling the gnomi doors Wichteltüren. You will find a lot of pictures if you type Wichteltür on google and look for pictures. The doors are a wonderful idea to give children a little fantasy friend who lives in their home behind a magical door. I am still looking for a place to buy doors like this in the US. I would love if you would let me know if you find something. Josephine
@@josephinenavas6276 I absolutely loooove the idea! Thank you for giving me the German term for them. I will be looking for some inspiration on google:). I found someone who makes gnome/fairy doors in Canada on etsy NothinButWood. I will be on a lookout now:). Thank you again for your lovely videos Josephine❤
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Thank you Mimi Rose for clearing some very important points. When making comparisons you should always know for real how the methods are, and it looks like you don't know montessori method in depth. But mimi explained it perfectly. Please next time research better or visit a school or talk to a montessori guide to understand the reasoning behind things and how it actually works...otherwise you are just giving a lot of negative input instead of real facts about the method.
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I feel like this video reinforces a lot of negative stereotypes about the Montessori method. A classroom isn't "all mixed up", the kids stay in the same class for three years, where the older kids mentor the younger ones, which teaches them a lot of very important social skills. Secondly, very young children have a hard time distinguishing between fantasy and reality, so fantasy is usually introduced after the age of six. There have also been scientific studies that children often feel betrayed and lied to when they find out that so many things they were taught are simply not true. It can also teach your child that lying is okay because you've kinda lied to them for years. Besides that, open ended play is very much encouraged, dolls, stuffed animals, train tracks, building blocks...... It's just that the child always has the option to choose something else as well. Children are born with an innate curiosity and need to learn and teach themselves. They will choose activities with a different learning value at some point, even if it takes more than a day of playing with the same thing over and over again. Especially for kids that have a different intellectual level than the average child (higher or lower) Montessori can be an amazing experience because they can learn everything at their own pace. You said that children can choose their own activities, which is true, but there is a limit. First of all, there's lesson introductions, where you show your child what the intended use of the activity is and go through the motions with them. Then, if you notice that they are not at all interested in said activity, you set out another activity on their shelf that teaches similar principles e.g. a different counting toy, until you find something your child is comfortable with and enjoys doing. My personal reason for not choosing a Waldorf education is the fact that our family has a long history of being bored in school and our natural learning process being inhibited by long lessons about things we had already mastered. I've come to the conclusion that my children would probably be quite bored in a Waldorf classroom, although I do use some Waldorf principles at home with my children as well, because it just ended up working for my family and my children. For example, I don't call playing work, because I've never really understood the reasoning behind that, and we do fictional stories and often use our imagination. Different to the Waldorf principle, I have conversations with my kids afterwards about what was real and what was not. We make a clear distinction between fantasy and reality, in order to not confuse the children. Another important Montessori principle is to always give the child an answer to whatever question they have. They must feel respected, loved, valued and understood in the family/classroom, so whatever question they have will be answered correctly. The Montessori method uses positive discipline, just like the Waldorf method (I think), so the biggest difference is really just fantasy and the classroom settings, where children in a Montessori classroom generally get to choose their own activities and rarely have to sit in a circle while the teacher talks about something. The kids are taught individually or in small groups and activities like being read to that require a grown - up are usually done at home with the parents, although there are definitely exceptions.
In my personal opinion, each family has to choose their own mix and match that works for them. Fully Waldorf is probably not ideal for your child's development and neither is 100% Montessori. Sorry for the long comment, I was kinda annoyed at first but then that faded and I probably explained some stuff twice.....
All of this is understandable! Thank you for sharing your perspective!
I believe that there can be a peaceful/exciting combination of Waldorf and Montessori, using the Montessori teaching method and using Waldorf materials for lessons. It would be so great!
I visited a public montessori school and i believe, and please correct me if i’m wrong, but a class has 3 grades. What’s interesting is that the older grades who have “mastered” the skills then tutor the ones who need help. It is almost like a little workplace
Hi, thank you very much for your comment.
Sadly I do not remember exactly how that works. It is years ago that my little sister has left the Montessori school. But I do remember that the older kids were supposed to inspire the younger ones.
I wish you a beautiful day. 💕
Josephine
Yes. You are correct. Each class is called a cycle. And there is generally a three year age gap between the childern. This starts from early education and it allows childern to learn at their own pace with no pressure of being at the standard of the peers. And yes, if a child has mastered the task, they can help those who haven't yet.
@@caitlinsmith3165 i love that! So child-centered
@@deeplydeepali I also like that part of it too. The system as a whole has alot of pros and cons. I think the pros out weighs the cons in theory. But unfortunately from my experience that completely comes as a relief worker in a toodler community located within a school, I found in the actual setting the cons are greater in the pros.
However. I feel like the building I was working in was poorly designed, that played a huge role in my cons. And the staff all had different levels of strictness when it came to the Montessori rules
@@deeplydeepali Yes, but sadly it doesn't always work out for everyone. My parents took my sister from the Montessori school after she was not able to read and write with the age of 10.
Thank you! This is wonderful and informative!!!
Thank you very much for your comment 🥰
Hola! me gustó mucho tu video, explicas muy claro las diferencias. Llegué acá en mi búsqueda de que educación es la que yo pienso es la correcta para mi hija de a penas 3 meses, y según lo que he averiguando, al igual que tú me inclino más por la educación waldorf. Pero para mi bebé, como aún es muy pequeña, me han gustado más los juguetes montessori, que los puedo fabricar yo. saludos de chile.
There are no Montessori school in Finland, so the only decision is between the "normal school" and Waldorf. Interesting is that they have become closer to each other since I went to school, many things from Waldorf are common practises now in "normal schools", for example starting to learn foreign language in first grade or all of the students having same subjects (not like wood work for boys and knitting for girls like it was twenty years ago).
Thanks for the video! I have a question; Is it correct that at Waldorf children are not learning how to read and write until the age of 7? And is it also true that from the age of 7 they are not only learning to read and write their native language but also two foreign languages? Thanks again!
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Thank you so much for your video! I have a question. What are those 'nomi doors' you were mentioning? I've never heard of them. Love the idea though!:)
Hi Alexandra, thank you very much for your comment. In German we are calling the gnomi doors Wichteltüren. You will find a lot of pictures if you type Wichteltür on google and look for pictures. The doors are a wonderful idea to give children a little fantasy friend who lives in their home behind a magical door. I am still looking for a place to buy doors like this in the US. I would love if you would let me know if you find something.
Josephine
@@josephinenavas6276 I absolutely loooove the idea! Thank you for giving me the German term for them. I will be looking for some inspiration on google:). I found someone who makes gnome/fairy doors in Canada on etsy NothinButWood. I will be on a lookout now:). Thank you again for your lovely videos Josephine❤
You're welcome. So happy I was able to help you and you already found someone who might be able to make a gnome door for your family! 💕
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💘（03:12）カリキュラムと興味による学習
💘（04:28）ファンタジーと比べてリアリティ
Thank you Mimi Rose for clearing some very important points. When making comparisons you should always know for real how the methods are, and it looks like you don't know montessori method in depth. But mimi explained it perfectly. Please next time research better or visit a school or talk to a montessori guide to understand the reasoning behind things and how it actually works...otherwise you are just giving a lot of negative input instead of real facts about the method.
⏲ Codes horaires et liens⏲
💘 (00:15) Jouer VS Work
💘 (00:38) Jouets VS Matériel de travail
😍 (01:18) Nettoyer la chanson: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Même âge VS âges mixtes
💘 (03:12) Curriculum VS Apprentissage par Intrest
💘 (04:28) Fantaisie VS Réalité
⏲Codici temporali e collegamenti⏲
💘 (00:15) Gioca a VS Lavoro
💘 (00:38) Giocattoli VS materiali di lavoro
😍 (01:18) Clean up song: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Stesse età VS Età miste
💘 (03:12) Curriculum VS Learning By Intrest
💘 (04:28) Fantasy VS Realtà
⏲Kody czasu i linki⏲
💘 (00:15) Zagraj w VS Work
💘 (00:38) Zabawki a materiały robocze
😍 (01:18) Piosenka do porządkowania: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Osoby w tym samym wieku a mieszane
💘 (03:12) Program nauczania a nauka przez zainteresowanie
💘 (04:28) Fantazja kontra rzeczywistość
⏲ Mã thời gian và liên kết⏲
💘 (00:15) Chơi VS Làm việc
💘 (00:38) Đồ chơi VS Vật liệu làm việc
😍 (01:18) Bài hát dọn dẹp: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Cùng tuổi VS Hỗn hợp
💘 (03:12) Giáo trình VS Học theo nội tâm
💘 (04:28) Ảo và thực tế
⏲ Tijdcodes en koppelingen ⏲
💘 (00:15) Speel VS Work
💘 (00:38) Speelgoed versus werkmateriaal
😍 (01:18) Nummer opschonen: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Same Ages VS Mixed Ages
💘 (03:12) Curriculum versus leren door Intrest
💘 (04:28) Fantasie versus realiteit
⏲Tidskoder och länkar⏲
💘 (00:15) Spela VS Work
💘 (00:38) Leksaker VS arbetsmaterial
😍 (01:18) Rensa upp låten: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Same Ages VS Mixed Ages
💘 (03:12) Curriculum VS Learning By Intrest
💘 (04:28) Fantasy VS Reality
⏲Временные коды и ссылки⏲
💘 (00:15) Играть против работы
💘 (00:38) Игрушки VS Рабочие материалы
😍 (01:18) Песня об очистке: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Одни возрасты VS смешанные возрасты
💘 (03:12) Учебная программа VS обучение по интересам
💘 (04:28) Фантазия против реальности
⏲Códigos de tempo e links⏲
💘 (00:15) Jogue VS Work
💘 (00:38) Brinquedos VS Materiais de Trabalho
😍 (01:18) Música de limpeza: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Mesmas Idades VS Idades Mistas
💘 (03:12) Currículo VS Aprendizagem por Interest
💘 (04:28) Fantasia VS Realidade
⏲Tydkodes en skakels⏲
💘 (00:15) Speel VS Work
💘 (00:38) Speelgoed VS Werksmateriaal
😍 (01:18) Maak liedjie skoon: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Dieselfde eeue versus gemengde eeue
💘 (03:12) Leergang VS Leer volgens belangstelling
💘 (04:28) Fantasie VS Werklikheid
⏲ Zaman Kodları ve Bağlantılar⏲
💘 (00:15) İşe Karşı Oynayın
💘 (00:38) Oyuncaklar VS İş Malzemeleri
😍 (01:18) Temizle şarkısı: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Aynı Yaşlar - Karışık Yaşlar
💘 (03:12) Müfredata Karşı Öğrenmeye Karşı İlgi
💘 (04:28) Fantazi Gerçekliğe Karşı
⏲Временни кодове и връзки⏲
💘 (00:15) Играйте VS Work
💘 (00:38) Играчки VS Работни материали
😍 (01:18) Песен за почистване: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Същите епохи срещу смесени епохи
💘 (03:12) Учебна програма VS Learning By Intrest
💘 (04:28) Фантазия срещу реалността
The best explanation out there, thanks!
⏲ 타임 코드 및 링크 ⏲
💘 (00:15) 플레이 에 비해 작업
💘 (00:38) 장난감 에 비해 작업 재료
😍 (01:18) 노래 정리 : rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) 같은 연령대 에 비해 혼합 연령
💘 (03:12) 커리큘럼 에 비해 관심의 학습
💘 (04:28) 판타지 에 비해 현실
Parents definitely have a very different view of Waldorf than the students
⏲Coduri de timp și linkuri⏲
💘 (00:15) Joacă VS Work
💘 (00:38) Jucării VS Materiale de lucru
😍 (01:18) Curăță melodia: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Aceeași vârstă VS vârste mixte
💘 (03:12) Curriculum VS Learning By Intrest
💘 (04:28) Fantasy VS Reality
My kids are hating Montessori school they are in.
⏲Časové kódy a odkazy⏲
💘 (00:15) Zahrajte si VS Work
💘 (00:38) Hračky VS Pracovné materiály
😍 (01:18) Vyčistiť pieseň: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Rovnaké vekové skupiny VS Zmiešané vekové skupiny
💘 (03:12) Curriculum VS Learning By Intrest
💘 (04:28) Fantasy vs realita
Not well versed, our son attends a Montessori school… do you homeschool??
⏲Vremenski kodovi i veze⏲
💘 (00:15) Reprodukujte VS Work
💘 (00:38) Igračke protiv radnih materijala
😍 (01:18) Očisti pjesmu: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Isto doba protiv mješovitog doba
💘 (03:12) Nastavni plan i program Učenje putem intresa
💘 (04:28) Fantazija protiv stvarnosti
⏲समय कोड और लिंक⏲
💘 (00:15) वी.एस. काम चलायें
💘 (00:38) खिलौने वी.एस. कार्य सामग्री
😍 (01:18) क्लीन अप गीत: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) समान युग बनाम मिश्रित युग
💘 (03:12) पाठ्यक्रम वी.एस. लर्निंग इंट्रेस्ट द्वारा
💘 (04:28) काल्पनिक VS वास्तविकता
So do they all become Godless hippies, or what?
Nope. No Hippies and we are believers.
@@josephinenavas6276 Very glad to hear that you don't denounce Christ.
⏲Códigos de tiempo y enlaces⏲
💘 (00:15) Juega VS Trabajo
💘 (00:38) Juguetes VS materiales de trabajo
😍 (01:18) Canción de limpieza: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Mismos Edades VS Edades Mixtas
💘 (03:12) Currículo VS Aprendizaje por interés
💘 (04:28) Fantasía VS Realidad
⏲ Időkódok és linkek⏲
💘 (00:15) Play VS Work
💘 (00:38) Játékok VS munkaanyagok
😍 (01:18) Tisztítsd meg a dalt: rb.gy/hobv6q
💘 (01:53) Ugyanazon korok VS vegyes korosztályok
💘 (03:12) Tanterv VS Tanulás intresszel
💘 (04:28) Fantasy VS valóság