To the poor bastard sticking it out through this game to upload the monsters, characters, plot, etc. to the Silent Hill wiki for posterity's sake: you're the real hero.
Actually though. I adore silent hill fans for the dedication. I like silent hill 1, 2, 3, and 4 (ik controversial) but everything after that I just couldn't careless about. Except the movies. I enjoy the movies (1 is just a decent film, and Rev is so fucking bad I love it.) But to have the sheer will, to experience all the silent hill content even if its ASSSSSSSSSSS is something I appreciate being someone who appreciates the wiki
The heck of it is that I wanted this to be good. CYOA books and games are my jam. They could have just done this as a visual novel without all the Web 3 and monetization BS and it could have been a lot of fun
yeah, but where'd be the mon-- I mean fun in that? lol. it's so sad, there's no such thing as earnest creativity when the only entities that can afford to make and market a game are massive corporations anymore @@Owesomasaurus
I remember as a teenager playing Silent Hill 2 and that game helped me process my own depression and trauma. It didn't magically heal me or anything like that, but started me down a path of reflecting on my mental health. I can't see this horseshit helping anyone.
This story is so fucking funny. He is the stereotype of a dad who gets a dog they didn’t want and ends up loving him. Especially him describing a dog as “selfish.” It’s a dog!!!
Wait hold up. Is Silent hill Ascension functionally just a single, audience-participatory playthrough of Until Dawn? But it happens one single scene per day and includes a leaderboard???
As a Norwegian, I was thrilled when the plot suddenly went to Norway. Lots to enjoy here. I don’t think the wolves scared away the rabbits, dude. There aren’t wild rabbits here. Painaway MAX is my favourite brand of painkillers. And I also speak English with a Norwegian accent in my own home of course. Except the curse words. Can’t say those in English, that would be improper. (For those who want to know what the curse words mean, Fitte = cunt. Dritt = shit. Jævel = devil, though tone-wise I’d probably translate it to fucker or piece of shit or something here. Faen is basically just the typical ‘fuck’, though literally it originally means ‘the devil’.) (Oh, but ‘are you fucking serious’ is fine? Idk why I’m even expecting them to be consistent.) Also the name of the place is literally just The Silent Valley. Silentdale? Sounds like the name of a place from a children’s book tbh. ‘Lille venn’ means ‘little friend’, but is a common way to refer to children. Though, this guy uses it to an excessive degree. To begin with I felt like maybe this was written in Norwegian first and then translated very directly, but now I’m not so sure. The dialogue is so stilted throughout it’s hard to say. Folklore nitpick. A nokken would’ve dragged her into a lake in the woods and drowned her, so I don’t think it was that. At least use a being that was actually said to enter people’s houses. This was very fun. Thank you for showing us 😂
@@thiscat4426 Did they go extinct in the last 5 years? I found reference to them being around in 2018 and a fairly detailed description of them being around from 2015.
@@endlesstrash4718 now I might be mistaken, I didn’t look very deep into it, but I’ve never heard of wild rabbits here and the sources I found all said that if you see rabbits in the wild they’re probably domesticated ones that have gotten out.
To me the most hilarious thing is that everyone told me that I was a grumpy OG fan that couldn't let go that Kojima didn't do PT and that Konami was good because they changed. Flashforward a year later, actions speaks by itself: Konami has learned jackshit and they're exactly the same as the last 2 decades: scummy people who are trying to make a quick buck hiring low level studios to make the most amount of money possible. They rejected many studios not because they were incompetent, they rejected them because they offered no money. Genvid knew how to sold their idea and I assume that the CEO + board leaders got hard when Genvid told them that it's mobile monetization.
@@electricfishfan7159 I am a huge fan since 99 and around 2008 I started to notice Konami's pattern until the thing about Book of memories happened (the dungeon crawler one). I think like a year or 2 later PT happened and that helped to expand the fanbase because even tho SH was beloved, it was kinda niche. That brought a new wave of fans that have very wild takes and ideas of the game (like Kojima working in OG games/creating SH) and one of the worst is people who got upset when you mentioned why SH is in the current state it is and why we dislike Konami. For reals, there was a long period of time (I would say for abour 3 or 4 years) that out of nowhere, a bunch of Konami apologist appeared out of nowhere deluding themselves that the reasons where many but Konami's fault (or they were tired of hearing the pachinko situation) which is annoying because it's the truth lmao. Anyhow my point isn't to bring division into the fanbase, my point is the same: proving that Konami hasn't changed in the slightless and ascension is a great look into what Konami wants. In other words: expect nothing but much worse with the other games.
As I am watching Ep.1, it was mentioned in the recent Castle Super Beast podcast: People assume that this is just all AI-generated. All of Silent Hill Ascension. The company and the whole staff on LinkedIn is somehow very much into narrative story-driven AI content, said that "maybe the series will end before all of that, we don't know", as if they had no involvement, plus some of the recent episodes look super janky with characters snapping into places where they should be - i.e. no human would animate it like that. The company denies any AI involvement, but HOT DAMN does it smelly fishy. I mean, LOOK at it, wowee
Idk - I've said this on the 2BFP subreddit, but from my experience with AI writing, this feels less like "I had ChatGPT create an entire script for me" and more "Somebody asked ChatGPT to give them some bullet points and rough content, and our writing team was given 5 hours to hastily make it work." My point being - there's a difference in tone and style between fully AI-rendered and AI-assisted (handicapped) writing.
@@Dlark17 The thing is, due to how the show works there's no real coherent script, just a series of scenarios strung together, supposedly dictated by player choices. Genvid themselves don't know where it will go or when it will end, and the CEO himself was calling the show a "simulation" with thousands of variatons per scene. The show structure, the company's and CEO's stance on AI, the actual quality of the writing and bizarre npc behaviors, everything points to AI being heavily involved. Anyway, debating how much AI writing was used is a bit pointless if we're on the topic of their statement. Genvid CEO has come out and denied it all, saying "Every word in Ascension was written by real people, many of whom have long-running careers in writing including Telltale titles, Pixar titles, [God of War] Ragnarok, Resident Evil Village and more. Across our 100,000+ words, zero are authored by LLMs or AI, and all are from [the] dedicated work of a talented team." This is a classic corporate tactic: as an exec, when you get caught doing dubious shit, just say "our very talented team consists of honest hard-working people, they'd never do that". You shift the blame onto your employees while appearing as if you're vouching for them, throwing them under the bus with a pat on the back.
@@rearedlogarithm Maybe, but that is definitely not the case here, no matter how much genvid tries to convince you otherwise. They were openly declaring they'd use AI in ascension and they've never been shy about trying to implement AI in their products, claiming it's all human-made now is a bit too little too late.
Person 1: “did you silent hill 2 your wife?” Person 2: “I don’t like silent hill 2, I preferred the cult plotline” John doesn’t get enough credit for how funny he is
@@chrisS19019 Silent Hill is notorious with its fanbase having divide fanbase. I dont even know if its half or if majority prefers the one from the other. The divide is Slent Hill 2 vs the other three where they mostly focused on the cult. Personally I prefer the storyline of SH2. The cult is barely mentioned there, because the problem with the cult is ruins the fear of the unkown. But somehow Western fans want the cult to be the ultimate force behind Silent Hill and its mystery...in fact it ruins it. The joke the comment the person posted above, is for this, that divide that fans have with what they prefer from the Silent Hill Franchise... Regardless. One thing is for sure SH2 and some ideas from SH4 revolutionaze the horror video games as we know them today. All these horror video games you see now were heavily inspired from SH2 and some ideas from SH4.
Ok, but most western audience outside the devoted group actually prefer sh2 which is why every adaptation we make tries to go in that direction. Japan is much more interested in the cult angle. I love sh2 so much, but the cult represents religious beliefs as a whole:, self-delusion, pain, pacification and ascension. The lore is so inconsistent in SH concerning the cult that I don’t think the details are actually that important, but they serve to let us explore very personal ideas that go beyond the mundane.
@@chrisS19019silent hill 2 didn't continue the narrative of silent hill 1. It did its own self contained thing that was very vaguely related to the first game basically only because they're both foggy
And here I thought the most hilarious thing to happen to Silent Hill was that time Konami lost the Silent Hill 2 source code, knowing they lost it, and actively not telling the company they outsourced the HD remaster too that the code was unfinished.
I also had a shithead dog growing up so I totally get it. I always loved Pumpkin and also he was a dick. He hated children, anything with wheels, other dogs, anyone breathing too loudly, sitting (he was always either laying down or standing up and staring at you), the mailman, and listening to directions. When we tried to play fetch with him he just ran to the ball and stood there waiting for us. He wouldn't just chill out if you were petting him. He had to crawl on top of you and put his face directly against yours. He ripped the tail off a lizard one time. He pissed off any other dog who didn't live with him. He used to harass our lab who was easily three times his size (luckily for him she didn't care, usually). He tried to steal my mom's bed. He was the worst dog I've ever met and I still miss him.
@@arthurdossantos6826 seems like that's not a good idea if it's gonna inspire people to make choices that make the game look bad but we're just shoveling more shit onto a pile of shit right
Thank god youre doing this, no chance i wanted to watch this without a sarcastic person tearing it to shreds throughout. How did anyone think ascension wouldnt be a terrible idea
The way this seems to try and ‘commodify’ and ‘game-ify’ the emotional aspects of silent hill just displays a fundamental misunderstanding of how Silent Hill works. I cannot think of anything less spiritually dishonest to the themes of this franchise than ‘your trauma and emotions are points now!’- like there’s supposed to be a liminality here, some room for the unknown, and this is just so… weirdly cynical in its construction
This feels like they wanted to make a drama show, but didn't think it would do well so they tied Silent Hill to it and since they tied Silent Hill to it, they once in a while just casually throw monsters that don't do anything in the background while keeping their shitty drama show at the forefront.
37:36 I actually like the fact that cultists look like “ordinary people”. Cultists don’t wear cowls in real life, and anyone can be drawn in to a cult (even if they think they’re immune to manipulation).
I am not entirely sure about writing, but some voices are for sure AI generated. I feel some tones and connotations that are unnatural even for a really bad actors..I just don't feel anything human behind it. It's more noticeable in some voices than others
Wouldn’t be surprised if at least part of the story/writing was also AI generated. What with all the sudden and out-of-nowhere tone shifts (example: look at the scene where the girl finds her deceased mother and confronts (?) her father about it), and the stunted and weirdly generic dialogue (example: when the two cultists (?) talk about the inciting incident. They sound like they’re apart of an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting), or just the general speedrunning of each and every single even semi-interesting plot point, and it’s over-reliance on *telling* us what the characters are like, instead of showing it. A lot of stuff that tends to come up a lot in AI writing. It could just be a consequence of the whole CYOA aspect. Like they couldn’t account for all the possible outcomes, so this was the result. Maybe there is some alternate version of events where everything‘s just completely coherent, well delivered and so on. Still feels weird though
A minute into SEW playing and I already feel like they had to use generated voices, because I can't imagine a living actor not cringing at those lines.
Having watched the entire series, something I noticed was characters NEVER talk over one another. And they basically stop acting between lines entirely. Also some characters have lines that appear to be for other characters in context. My theory is they have a single voice AI acting like a terrible ventriloquist and playing every single Characters roles simultaneously. Having to stop and then process who's talking next and what voice to use and lines to read over and over.
i was NOT prepared to cry like a bitch in the intro , i came to laugh at silent hill latest disaster. Got emotions from Jhons story about the family dog, i too had 2 years ago lost my own furry family member, i was the one to take her to the grave, cried for days and still cant remember without pain in my chest. I feel you Jhon, trully do.
I have never seen a product that sucks the soul out of my body this hard. The worst part is that I think they'd put the previous sentence in quotes to try and use as a selling point in advertising.
I remember when I was a little kid I decided to write a novelization of Pokemon Blue. The way I chose to go about it was playing the game and writing about what was happening. This meant that my story frequently stopped to have me explain how Red's Squirtle used Tackle on a Pidgey 5 times, or how he fought Bugcatcher, who had 2 Caterpies, each of which Squirtle Tackled 3 times. I'd try to make it exciting, but even if I wasn't very little it'd be impossible to not make those breaks incredibly jarring. This feels like that, like it's adapting a game beat by beat, including the bits where monsters show up for no reason other than gameplay... But it's not adapting anything, it's an original story that's just... Written that way.
So the whole "I don't remember doing the murder" thing can actually work really, *really* well if done properly. One of the most emotional scenes in LA Noire revolves around something similar. This is not one of those cases.
johns story about tiggy ☹️☹️☹️ i had a cocker spaniel who was my best friend but also the worst dog in the world. she was an absolute piece of shit. i miss her every day
That talk about your childhood pup at the beginning really took me back to my childhood dog Max. You really do never truly get over it huh? They're a true, actual family member. I still miss that little guy.
It's actually insane. We had the exact same experience. Same type of dog. Almost the same sounding name. Buddy. Tiggy. Buddy would bite the shit out of you if you tried to pick him up and he hated every single fucking person. He had asthma so if people were around he'd freeze in place and make these goblin wheezes. Guy hated being alive and I hated him at first, and then eventually just felt bad for him. The moment I felt love was when me and him were alone one day, he let me pick him up and we hung out on the couch for a long time. Whenever we were alone after that, me and him were friends.
I also had a dog with which I had a weirdly strained relationship until I was an adult and bonded with her and experienced a level of tender grief I never thought possible - snap! :D It devastated me!
So this is basically a story driven game with extra steps? Like watching someone stream Until Dawn and having votes on the decisions. Only that we're now watching the vod.
Fitting for that a stream about a series about accepting one's grief and trauma starts off with a tear jerking story about having to say good bye to a dear friend of yours, too bad the thing the stream was focused on didn't do the same.
Very funny how a zero budget horror podcast managed the whole "you make the choices" thing better, and without being so grossly greedy about it. If you want a more interesting version of this that doesn't have a season pass, look up "Malevolent". It's not perfect, but it's coherent and an honest attempt to make something cool by people who care about their work.
Usually in this type of interactive narrative, the branches are completely planned and written out in advance. The trick with audience "voting" is that any choice will mostly be cosmetic or will change the "tone" of a scene and any seemingly different story branch is designed to bottleneck back to the planned narrative. If someone can actually "die" it's usually a choice between two characters and the story is written so either character can be removed from the narrative and the other fills the role going forward. Or if a character dies for good, there will _seem_ to be a way to save them but all choices are fatal and the death is planned - there might just be a different animation if they die by fire or spikes or whatever. Since this looks like a one-off where you can't re-play and try different choices, the plot is likely going to be pretty rigid ("every choice is canon!") only with the illusion of branching and choice. The audience might get to choose which color shirt a character wears and that asset switch is planned for, but they're not going to let the audience actually control or majorly change the story in a way not planned for.
Truly the NFT of video games: no-one understands what it even is or how it's meant to work, but everyone agrees that it's a terrible thing that has no value.
Thanks for telling the story about yourself and Tiggy, I had a similar relationship with my dog and its nice to know that someone else felt the same about their dog as I did mine
I’m glad you can be in this show. What I thought was missing from the scene where Heather returns home to find her father dead was my stupid avatar tea-bagging in the background while wearing a novelty base ball cap and a Hawaiian shirt.
That beginning is bringing back memories of my Domino's death. He died in my arms at 16. He saw me all through grade school, college, and was my driving buddy. That grief is still raw years later.
That create a wrestler is so uncanny. My hair is also dyed red, in a ponytail. I too talk like a robot and move like a janky puppet. But i cover my babyface with a beard like a proper human being.
Hearing about Tiggy reminds me of my German Spitz - Batman. The year he passed away. I got my mum a painting of him for her birthday. I know she loved it cause its up in the house on the wall but she bawled her eyes out when my girlfriend and I presented her with it.
The worst is that there is a version of this idea that is actually cool. A show where the audience can influence the outcome by watching and spending points, sure, a little gimmicky, but it's interesting! Problem is that you need really, really, REALLY good writing for something like this to work. Production value aside, if the writing was good this could work. But seeing how bad it is from the start and how the monetization is clearly the focus, it just comes off as a gimmick to make money, not an actual idea they wanted to realize. It's clearly just a product.
Some of these female models look so similar to me with their short-ish hair in ponytails and being in their 20’s or 30’s, but at least the protagonist of the cult storyline has a polka dot shirt that I can identify her by.
I love how disjointed and confused this script is. Like there’s barely a story connecting anything, just a collection of scenes. It’s like this was created by early chatgp
the voice acting is delivered like the voice actors have absolutely no idea what their next line will be, and like lines were recorded out of order,, this is ,, wild
@@Demi_Purple ehhhhh as someone in the vocaloid/voice synth "fandom", these do sound like real people, just with the worst, disconnected lines, no direction, and most likely dog shit pay
Had a Jack Russell at 10 years old too. Her name was...well, Puppy. She was already used to the name, so we couldn't really pick. That dog was the smartest, loveliest little dog. She didn't want to accept she was a dog. She wanted to be one of us. She would stand on hind legs whenever she could, and insisted on sleeping in our bed on her back with her head peeking up from the covers. God I miss her.
this game(game?) has got to be some kind of money laundering scheme right? They didn't actually look at this and think "yup, that'll work" right? This is some knda crazy tax evasion maneuver right? I guess maybe they looked at the social media horror stuff that's been hype recently like backrooms and mandela catalogue and thought "hey lets monetize this! but make it low effort!" But on a positive note, seeing this makes me wonder if someone could pull off a streamer/influencer horror type thing, that would be kinda cool if done right
26:12 By the standards of a video-game, it looks good. But this is not a video-game, it's basically a TV series; and everything is pre-rendered. When compared to other 3d animated series on netflix, for instance, it doesn't look _great_ . Makes me think how big the budget was 🤔
It looks so weird seeing unaltered default Metahuman assets in a game from such a big franchise. Like... I recognize all these hairstyles and these shaders. Metahuman is a powerful tool, but using it out of the box like that makes me think of indie games or shovelware, not a household name... And they don't even use it to its full capabilities in the default setup. Why are there FOUR characters with the same ponytail in the same episode! There's more hairstyles in there!!!
So I had assumed that take was being overstated when people first started suggesting it. After all it's fun to dunk on the bad SH show, right? But having actually watched this now; 100% yes. There's so many weird little incoherent or unnatural dialogue sequences that scream AI. It's bad in that special way that comes from AI and not just a shit writer. At best it's AI and someone gave it a quick pass edit to try to make it sound more human but could only do so much. That's how it feels anyways. They're certainly denying it though.
56:47 I love how it delivers "I've had enough of this" while the camera is still clearly focused on the other character. Poor facial animations are a big wall, but they could've at least had him emote with his hands.
"Structurally, the liquid appears to be an opiate," she said, somehow determining the molecular composition of a fluid with a LIGHT MICROSCOPE which is OFF and also set to the lowest magnification setting... and the lens isn't even properly aligned.
I just realized that John is the only one who I can hear say "gamers", especially in reference to his fans, and it evokes to revulsion in me. That is a poisoned-ass word, and my man can still say it pure.
To your story in the beginning, my jrt was 5 years younger than me. We were like sisters. She was supposed to be my dads dog but i was her favorite. Silly dogs. I love them
As someone who comes from a family who has had many pets and has always been extremely close to them, Tiggy looks like she was an incredible little dog and if she got to 17 you and your parents gave her a wonderful long life 💖
It is going to be so funny, when the "winner" of the cameo contest, doesn't have a character model as close to what they look like, as that guy in the bar looks like Eyepatch Wolf.
There's something so unintentionally funny about using E3-esq presentation of a Silent Hill Story. "Whatup fellow Gamers,get ready to experienced shared truma and guilt in Silent Hill Ascension!"
around the 1:04:00 minute mark all I can think is "how can she tell it's morphine through a *light* microscope, *God* " One flaw in an otherwise perfect production, I know
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"face your trauma together" is honestly a pretty good description of the silent hill fanbase. just... not for the reason they intended.
Sounds so zoomerish.
@@oceanmanlyZoomers, famously the first generation to mention trauma.
Should have saved the title for the next 3D sonic game
Hahah with 30% of it being that insane circumcision obsessed guy
@@PotionSmellerof course, WW2, Vietnam, Reagan era/9/11, what do silent/boomers/x/millennials know about it
This was literally a bit in Futurama. "Press one to see Calculon get into a gunfight. Press 2 to see him do taxes."
"You pressed: 2!"
"No I didn't."
"I'm almost positive you did!"
To the poor bastard sticking it out through this game to upload the monsters, characters, plot, etc. to the Silent Hill wiki for posterity's sake: you're the real hero.
Can't wait to see how they connect one of the monsters to the trauma of circumcision
Actually though. I adore silent hill fans for the dedication. I like silent hill 1, 2, 3, and 4 (ik controversial) but everything after that I just couldn't careless about. Except the movies. I enjoy the movies (1 is just a decent film, and Rev is so fucking bad I love it.)
But to have the sheer will, to experience all the silent hill content even if its ASSSSSSSSSSS is something I appreciate being someone who appreciates the wiki
Now consider all the Silent Hill pitches Konami has TURNED DOWN over the years.
Weird wild stuff here.
"Lets not publish a visionary auteur game from a passionate bankable name but instead animate someone's fanfic."
@@Owesomasaurus a bad fanfic too 🥴
Pretty sure Konami's first question with a pitch is "Can you do this cheaply?"
@@prowlingmonkey and the second one is "How many pachinko machines can we derivate from the project"
@@Owesomasaurus Kojima is a hack... but he's my hack, so I'm still sad for Silent Hills vanishing into thin air
This game is like watching cutscenes on RUclips where they cut out all the gameplay and you don’t know what’s going on lol
The heck of it is that I wanted this to be good. CYOA books and games are my jam. They could have just done this as a visual novel without all the Web 3 and monetization BS and it could have been a lot of fun
yeah, but where'd be the mon-- I mean fun in that? lol. it's so sad, there's no such thing as earnest creativity when the only entities that can afford to make and market a game are massive corporations anymore @@Owesomasaurus
WITH 2013 Graphics
I remember as a teenager playing Silent Hill 2 and that game helped me process my own depression and trauma. It didn't magically heal me or anything like that, but started me down a path of reflecting on my mental health. I can't see this horseshit helping anyone.
with a sticker that reads "It's Trauma!" I don't think they intended to help anybody but the shareholders
@@peachy_lili maybe the people at the top didn't but Team Silent was only concerned with making a great game
Come on, share your trauma.
I'm so invested in the story of John and Tiggy
The cynic in me is like "yeah John got Stockholm syndromed by that freaking dog" but the dog lover in me knows exactly how he feels.
@@OwesomasaurusI mean she was a JRT, and as someone who had two JRTs as childhood dogs: those little bastards are master manipulators lol
This story is so fucking funny. He is the stereotype of a dad who gets a dog they didn’t want and ends up loving him. Especially him describing a dog as “selfish.” It’s a dog!!!
My internet-poisoned brain was like "This is just like Polnareff and Iggy" lmao
Sure wish i could say the same about the game
Wait hold up. Is Silent hill Ascension functionally just a single, audience-participatory playthrough of Until Dawn? But it happens one single scene per day and includes a leaderboard???
Don’t forget the micro transactions and loot boxes!
As a Norwegian, I was thrilled when the plot suddenly went to Norway. Lots to enjoy here. I don’t think the wolves scared away the rabbits, dude. There aren’t wild rabbits here. Painaway MAX is my favourite brand of painkillers. And I also speak English with a Norwegian accent in my own home of course. Except the curse words. Can’t say those in English, that would be improper. (For those who want to know what the curse words mean, Fitte = cunt. Dritt = shit. Jævel = devil, though tone-wise I’d probably translate it to fucker or piece of shit or something here. Faen is basically just the typical ‘fuck’, though literally it originally means ‘the devil’.) (Oh, but ‘are you fucking serious’ is fine? Idk why I’m even expecting them to be consistent.) Also the name of the place is literally just The Silent Valley. Silentdale? Sounds like the name of a place from a children’s book tbh. ‘Lille venn’ means ‘little friend’, but is a common way to refer to children. Though, this guy uses it to an excessive degree. To begin with I felt like maybe this was written in Norwegian first and then translated very directly, but now I’m not so sure. The dialogue is so stilted throughout it’s hard to say.
Folklore nitpick. A nokken would’ve dragged her into a lake in the woods and drowned her, so I don’t think it was that. At least use a being that was actually said to enter people’s houses.
This was very fun. Thank you for showing us 😂
Of course there are no rabbits in Norway. The wolves chased them away.
Norway absolutely has both wild rabbits and hares.
@@endlesstrash4718 hares yes, rabbits no
@@thiscat4426 Did they go extinct in the last 5 years? I found reference to them being around in 2018 and a fairly detailed description of them being around from 2015.
@@endlesstrash4718 now I might be mistaken, I didn’t look very deep into it, but I’ve never heard of wild rabbits here and the sources I found all said that if you see rabbits in the wild they’re probably domesticated ones that have gotten out.
To me the most hilarious thing is that everyone told me that I was a grumpy OG fan that couldn't let go that Kojima didn't do PT and that Konami was good because they changed.
Flashforward a year later, actions speaks by itself: Konami has learned jackshit and they're exactly the same as the last 2 decades: scummy people who are trying to make a quick buck hiring low level studios to make the most amount of money possible.
They rejected many studios not because they were incompetent, they rejected them because they offered no money. Genvid knew how to sold their idea and I assume that the CEO + board leaders got hard when Genvid told them that it's mobile monetization.
Exactly. I’m not an OG fan nor do I try to be dour about this franchise-as well as MGS-but the signs consistently point to absolute shit.
@@electricfishfan7159 I am a huge fan since 99 and around 2008 I started to notice Konami's pattern until the thing about Book of memories happened (the dungeon crawler one). I think like a year or 2 later PT happened and that helped to expand the fanbase because even tho SH was beloved, it was kinda niche. That brought a new wave of fans that have very wild takes and ideas of the game (like Kojima working in OG games/creating SH) and one of the worst is people who got upset when you mentioned why SH is in the current state it is and why we dislike Konami.
For reals, there was a long period of time (I would say for abour 3 or 4 years) that out of nowhere, a bunch of Konami apologist appeared out of nowhere deluding themselves that the reasons where many but Konami's fault (or they were tired of hearing the pachinko situation) which is annoying because it's the truth lmao.
Anyhow my point isn't to bring division into the fanbase, my point is the same: proving that Konami hasn't changed in the slightless and ascension is a great look into what Konami wants. In other words: expect nothing but much worse with the other games.
As I am watching Ep.1, it was mentioned in the recent Castle Super Beast podcast:
People assume that this is just all AI-generated. All of Silent Hill Ascension.
The company and the whole staff on LinkedIn is somehow very much into narrative story-driven AI content, said that "maybe the series will end before all of that, we don't know", as if they had no involvement, plus some of the recent episodes look super janky with characters snapping into places where they should be - i.e. no human would animate it like that.
The company denies any AI involvement, but HOT DAMN does it smelly fishy. I mean, LOOK at it, wowee
The CEO was just bragging about using AI in all upcoming shows a couple months before SHA aired. Them coming out with a denial now is really funny.
Idk - I've said this on the 2BFP subreddit, but from my experience with AI writing, this feels less like "I had ChatGPT create an entire script for me" and more "Somebody asked ChatGPT to give them some bullet points and rough content, and our writing team was given 5 hours to hastily make it work." My point being - there's a difference in tone and style between fully AI-rendered and AI-assisted (handicapped) writing.
@@Dlark17 The thing is, due to how the show works there's no real coherent script, just a series of scenarios strung together, supposedly dictated by player choices. Genvid themselves don't know where it will go or when it will end, and the CEO himself was calling the show a "simulation" with thousands of variatons per scene.
The show structure, the company's and CEO's stance on AI, the actual quality of the writing and bizarre npc behaviors, everything points to AI being heavily involved.
Anyway, debating how much AI writing was used is a bit pointless if we're on the topic of their statement. Genvid CEO has come out and denied it all, saying "Every word in Ascension was written by real people, many of whom have long-running careers in writing including Telltale titles, Pixar titles, [God of War] Ragnarok, Resident Evil Village and more. Across our 100,000+ words, zero are authored by LLMs or AI, and all are from [the] dedicated work of a talented team."
This is a classic corporate tactic: as an exec, when you get caught doing dubious shit, just say "our very talented team consists of honest hard-working people, they'd never do that". You shift the blame onto your employees while appearing as if you're vouching for them, throwing them under the bus with a pat on the back.
The discourse has now changed from "will AI writing be indistinguishable from humans" to "is this human writing indistinguishable from AI".
@@rearedlogarithm Maybe, but that is definitely not the case here, no matter how much genvid tries to convince you otherwise. They were openly declaring they'd use AI in ascension and they've never been shy about trying to implement AI in their products, claiming it's all human-made now is a bit too little too late.
I think it was Pat who said John looked handsome in a "Man NPC Template 1" sorta way. And now it becomes a reality
Crazy Talk is just too powerful
Person 1: “did you silent hill 2 your wife?”
Person 2: “I don’t like silent hill 2, I preferred the cult plotline”
John doesn’t get enough credit for how funny he is
Could you explain it to me
@@chrisS19019 Silent Hill is notorious with its fanbase having divide fanbase.
I dont even know if its half or if majority prefers the one from the other.
The divide is Slent Hill 2 vs the other three where they mostly focused on the cult.
Personally I prefer the storyline of SH2. The cult is barely mentioned there, because the problem with the cult
is ruins the fear of the unkown. But somehow Western fans want the cult to be the ultimate force behind Silent Hill and its mystery...in fact it ruins it.
The joke the comment the person posted above, is for this, that divide that fans have with what they prefer from the Silent Hill Franchise...
Regardless. One thing is for sure SH2 and some ideas from SH4 revolutionaze the horror video games as we know them today.
All these horror video games you see now were heavily inspired from SH2 and some ideas from SH4.
Ok, but most western audience outside the devoted group actually prefer sh2 which is why every adaptation we make tries to go in that direction. Japan is much more interested in the cult angle. I love sh2 so much, but the cult represents religious beliefs as a whole:, self-delusion, pain, pacification and ascension.
The lore is so inconsistent in SH concerning the cult that I don’t think the details are actually that important, but they serve to let us explore very personal ideas that go beyond the mundane.
@@chrisS19019silent hill 2 didn't continue the narrative of silent hill 1. It did its own self contained thing that was very vaguely related to the first game basically only because they're both foggy
@@BloodWired such a based take
And here I thought the most hilarious thing to happen to Silent Hill was that time Konami lost the Silent Hill 2 source code, knowing they lost it, and actively not telling the company they outsourced the HD remaster too that the code was unfinished.
I also had a shithead dog growing up so I totally get it. I always loved Pumpkin and also he was a dick. He hated children, anything with wheels, other dogs, anyone breathing too loudly, sitting (he was always either laying down or standing up and staring at you), the mailman, and listening to directions. When we tried to play fetch with him he just ran to the ball and stood there waiting for us. He wouldn't just chill out if you were petting him. He had to crawl on top of you and put his face directly against yours. He ripped the tail off a lizard one time. He pissed off any other dog who didn't live with him. He used to harass our lab who was easily three times his size (luckily for him she didn't care, usually). He tried to steal my mom's bed. He was the worst dog I've ever met and I still miss him.
John screaming "SUBTEXT IS FOR FOUCKING COWARDS" at the screen was perfection
"you will permanently be in the story of silent hill ascension, seen by millions" is so hilariously presumptions about the game's success. I love it.
I tune in with a friend daily and there’s definitely
Tiggy legit sighing at you is absolutely such a Jack Russel thing to do
ok, are we gonna talk about how the create-a-wrestler, the cult lady, and the norwegian mom have the exact same haircut just in different colors?
Thought I was the only one who noticed. Pretty sure the orange dude with red hair has the same model too
It's because they are cameos from players and this was the funniest haircut
@@arthurdossantos6826 seems like that's not a good idea if it's gonna inspire people to make choices that make the game look bad but we're just shoveling more shit onto a pile of shit right
@xXluluchanelXx yeah it's not like there are many good choices there
Thank god youre doing this, no chance i wanted to watch this without a sarcastic person tearing it to shreds throughout. How did anyone think ascension wouldnt be a terrible idea
Same. The idea of watching this straight is a hard pass, but watching someone clever snark their way through it? Now we're talking!
This actually feels like it's written by an AI, I am amazed and can't look away, like looking at a burning carcrash.
While watching this, the accusations of AI ‘writing’ become more and more realistic. Holy shit.
The way this seems to try and ‘commodify’ and ‘game-ify’ the emotional aspects of silent hill just displays a fundamental misunderstanding of how Silent Hill works. I cannot think of anything less spiritually dishonest to the themes of this franchise than ‘your trauma and emotions are points now!’- like there’s supposed to be a liminality here, some room for the unknown, and this is just so… weirdly cynical in its construction
I’m turning into jerky, spending so much time in the smokehouse.
HELL YEAH BROTHER WE'RE ALL THE FINAL GAMER'S LITTLE JERKY BABIES WOOHOO!!!!!
Jerky boys in the smoke house!
This feels like they wanted to make a drama show, but didn't think it would do well so they tied Silent Hill to it and since they tied Silent Hill to it, they once in a while just casually throw monsters that don't do anything in the background while keeping their shitty drama show at the forefront.
I thought the same thing.
37:36 I actually like the fact that cultists look like “ordinary people”. Cultists don’t wear cowls in real life, and anyone can be drawn in to a cult (even if they think they’re immune to manipulation).
I am not entirely sure about writing, but some voices are for sure AI generated. I feel some tones and connotations that are unnatural even for a really bad actors..I just don't feel anything human behind it. It's more noticeable in some voices than others
The story is probably also AI generated.
There is some strange tremors in some of the voices as well that I feel points to them being AI. Very icky.
Wouldn’t be surprised if at least part of the story/writing was also AI generated. What with all the sudden and out-of-nowhere tone shifts (example: look at the scene where the girl finds her deceased mother and confronts (?) her father about it), and the stunted and weirdly generic dialogue (example: when the two cultists (?) talk about the inciting incident. They sound like they’re apart of an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting), or just the general speedrunning of each and every single even semi-interesting plot point, and it’s over-reliance on *telling* us what the characters are like, instead of showing it. A lot of stuff that tends to come up a lot in AI writing.
It could just be a consequence of the whole CYOA aspect. Like they couldn’t account for all the possible outcomes, so this was the result. Maybe there is some alternate version of events where everything‘s just completely coherent, well delivered and so on. Still feels weird though
A minute into SEW playing and I already feel like they had to use generated voices, because I can't imagine a living actor not cringing at those lines.
Having watched the entire series, something I noticed was characters NEVER talk over one another. And they basically stop acting between lines entirely.
Also some characters have lines that appear to be for other characters in context.
My theory is they have a single voice AI acting like a terrible ventriloquist and playing every single Characters roles simultaneously.
Having to stop and then process who's talking next and what voice to use and lines to read over and over.
i was NOT prepared to cry like a bitch in the intro , i came to laugh at silent hill latest disaster.
Got emotions from Jhons story about the family dog, i too had 2 years ago lost my own furry family member, i was the one to take her to the grave, cried for days and still cant remember without pain in my chest.
I feel you Jhon, trully do.
Same. I was listening to it at work, too. 🥺
I was driving and just teared up, thinking of my own dog and how he died.
I have never seen a product that sucks the soul out of my body this hard. The worst part is that I think they'd put the previous sentence in quotes to try and use as a selling point in advertising.
I remember when I was a little kid I decided to write a novelization of Pokemon Blue. The way I chose to go about it was playing the game and writing about what was happening. This meant that my story frequently stopped to have me explain how Red's Squirtle used Tackle on a Pidgey 5 times, or how he fought Bugcatcher, who had 2 Caterpies, each of which Squirtle Tackled 3 times. I'd try to make it exciting, but even if I wasn't very little it'd be impossible to not make those breaks incredibly jarring.
This feels like that, like it's adapting a game beat by beat, including the bits where monsters show up for no reason other than gameplay... But it's not adapting anything, it's an original story that's just... Written that way.
A withering! Here ? That line just threw me back into Oblivion
HOW can you just sit here EATING PIZZA?
the Blight? In this Town? Does the cult Praise the Sun? They DO?!?!!!
So the whole "I don't remember doing the murder" thing can actually work really, *really* well if done properly. One of the most emotional scenes in LA Noire revolves around something similar.
This is not one of those cases.
I love a similar plotline from the manga Pluto, it recently got an amazing anime adaptation as well:D
@@emh.1178 Yeah be cool if 20th century boys can get the same treatment.
There are at least 4 characters with the same hair asset just in different colors... Rachel, the daughter, her lab employee, and the cop.
Is it just me, or did they really turn Silent Hill into a simulated reality show?
This is a writer saying "I understood the themes of Silent Hill 2" by restating them as overtly as possible, just so there's no room for confusion.
29:24 In that shot of her lurching towards the camera she looks right out of a jumpscare from a shovelware unity game.
Exactly 3 minutes after "It's not like...jank."
johns story about tiggy ☹️☹️☹️ i had a cocker spaniel who was my best friend but also the worst dog in the world. she was an absolute piece of shit. i miss her every day
That talk about your childhood pup at the beginning really took me back to my childhood dog Max. You really do never truly get over it huh? They're a true, actual family member. I still miss that little guy.
“You don’t need to watch live…”
“MAKE SURE TO WATCH LIVE OR THE CHARACTERS WILL DIE”
It's actually insane. We had the exact same experience. Same type of dog. Almost the same sounding name. Buddy. Tiggy. Buddy would bite the shit out of you if you tried to pick him up and he hated every single fucking person. He had asthma so if people were around he'd freeze in place and make these goblin wheezes. Guy hated being alive and I hated him at first, and then eventually just felt bad for him. The moment I felt love was when me and him were alone one day, he let me pick him up and we hung out on the couch for a long time. Whenever we were alone after that, me and him were friends.
I also had a dog with which I had a weirdly strained relationship until I was an adult and bonded with her and experienced a level of tender grief I never thought possible - snap! :D It devastated me!
Fans: "It sure would be nice if Konami did something with their IPs, again."
Konami: "GOT YOU FAM"
*somewhere in the distance, a monkey's paw curls*
"Please make it stop I'll do anything"
So this is basically a story driven game with extra steps? Like watching someone stream Until Dawn and having votes on the decisions. Only that we're now watching the vod.
Fitting for that a stream about a series about accepting one's grief and trauma starts off with a tear jerking story about having to say good bye to a dear friend of yours, too bad the thing the stream was focused on didn't do the same.
“Welcome to the smokehouse” is one of my favorite opening lines I’ve ever heard from a content creator
You called it 100%, it was totally a crypto/NFT cash-in that they started developing before the crash
Very funny how a zero budget horror podcast managed the whole "you make the choices" thing better, and without being so grossly greedy about it. If you want a more interesting version of this that doesn't have a season pass, look up "Malevolent". It's not perfect, but it's coherent and an honest attempt to make something cool by people who care about their work.
smokehouse DOES have a certain mystique. or maybe a………..certain mesquite 😏
I honestly hope that "The Great Purifier" turns out just to be a giant Brita pitcher.
So are they truly making each episode day by day only after the choices come in, because that would explain everything.
Usually in this type of interactive narrative, the branches are completely planned and written out in advance. The trick with audience "voting" is that any choice will mostly be cosmetic or will change the "tone" of a scene and any seemingly different story branch is designed to bottleneck back to the planned narrative. If someone can actually "die" it's usually a choice between two characters and the story is written so either character can be removed from the narrative and the other fills the role going forward. Or if a character dies for good, there will _seem_ to be a way to save them but all choices are fatal and the death is planned - there might just be a different animation if they die by fire or spikes or whatever. Since this looks like a one-off where you can't re-play and try different choices, the plot is likely going to be pretty rigid ("every choice is canon!") only with the illusion of branching and choice. The audience might get to choose which color shirt a character wears and that asset switch is planned for, but they're not going to let the audience actually control or majorly change the story in a way not planned for.
Truly the NFT of video games: no-one understands what it even is or how it's meant to work, but everyone agrees that it's a terrible thing that has no value.
"everyone agrees that it's a terrible thing that has no value." ...Do you know how much a bitcoin sells for?
@@brendancoulter5761key word in this comment being “nft” not “bitcoin”
Overwatch pron is so much better animated and written than this movie
You know things are fckt when handmade Overwatch porn has better love and care than a most-probably AI generated Silent Hill thing.
Good to see Konami raising awareness of the horrors of Scientology
this feels like Silent Hill by David Cage
Thanks for telling the story about yourself and Tiggy, I had a similar relationship with my dog and its nice to know that someone else felt the same about their dog as I did mine
Yknow, maybe Homecoming and Downpour aren't that bad after all.... lord help us.
I’m glad you can be in this show.
What I thought was missing from the scene where Heather returns home to find her father dead was my stupid avatar tea-bagging in the background while wearing a novelty base ball cap and a Hawaiian shirt.
That beginning is bringing back memories of my Domino's death. He died in my arms at 16. He saw me all through grade school, college, and was my driving buddy. That grief is still raw years later.
That create a wrestler is so uncanny. My hair is also dyed red, in a ponytail. I too talk like a robot and move like a janky puppet. But i cover my babyface with a beard like a proper human being.
Hearing about Tiggy reminds me of my German Spitz - Batman. The year he passed away. I got my mum a painting of him for her birthday. I know she loved it cause its up in the house on the wall but she bawled her eyes out when my girlfriend and I presented her with it.
The worst is that there is a version of this idea that is actually cool. A show where the audience can influence the outcome by watching and spending points, sure, a little gimmicky, but it's interesting! Problem is that you need really, really, REALLY good writing for something like this to work. Production value aside, if the writing was good this could work. But seeing how bad it is from the start and how the monetization is clearly the focus, it just comes off as a gimmick to make money, not an actual idea they wanted to realize. It's clearly just a product.
silent hill ascension feels like xavier: renegade angel
Some of these female models look so similar to me with their short-ish hair in ponytails and being in their 20’s or 30’s, but at least the protagonist of the cult storyline has a polka dot shirt that I can identify her by.
I love how disjointed and confused this script is. Like there’s barely a story connecting anything, just a collection of scenes.
It’s like this was created by early chatgp
"I need a pep talk, my pet died" Proceeds to talk about how much he hated his childhood dog
Silent Hill pachinko lookin' real smug right now.
the animations in silent hill 1 looked more natural
They could have used the resources wasted here to reanimate everything from SH1 a hundred times over.
It’s reminiscent of bad CW shows. Wild how much they missed the mark
the voice acting is delivered like the voice actors have absolutely no idea what their next line will be, and like lines were recorded out of order,, this is ,, wild
assuming living humans produced any of those noises or lines in the first place
personally, I don't
@@Demi_Purple ehhhhh as someone in the vocaloid/voice synth "fandom", these do sound like real people, just with the worst, disconnected lines, no direction, and most likely dog shit pay
Had a Jack Russell at 10 years old too. Her name was...well, Puppy. She was already used to the name, so we couldn't really pick.
That dog was the smartest, loveliest little dog. She didn't want to accept she was a dog. She wanted to be one of us. She would stand on hind legs whenever she could, and insisted on sleeping in our bed on her back with her head peeking up from the covers. God I miss her.
Your dog story made me cry. I had to put my dog down last year and I'm absolutely not over it yet. She was my best friend for such a long time.
Please, please Mr. Eyepatch Wolf, keep reacting to this nonsense. This is pure gold.
Maybe the real silent hill was the trauma we experienced together along the way.
this game(game?) has got to be some kind of money laundering scheme right? They didn't actually look at this and think "yup, that'll work" right? This is some knda crazy tax evasion maneuver right?
I guess maybe they looked at the social media horror stuff that's been hype recently like backrooms and mandela catalogue and thought "hey lets monetize this! but make it low effort!"
But on a positive note, seeing this makes me wonder if someone could pull off a streamer/influencer horror type thing, that would be kinda cool if done right
26:12 By the standards of a video-game, it looks good. But this is not a video-game, it's basically a TV series; and everything is pre-rendered. When compared to other 3d animated series on netflix, for instance, it doesn't look _great_ . Makes me think how big the budget was 🤔
“the dogs represent that he thinks his wife is a bitch”
It looks so weird seeing unaltered default Metahuman assets in a game from such a big franchise. Like... I recognize all these hairstyles and these shaders. Metahuman is a powerful tool, but using it out of the box like that makes me think of indie games or shovelware, not a household name... And they don't even use it to its full capabilities in the default setup. Why are there FOUR characters with the same ponytail in the same episode! There's more hairstyles in there!!!
JFC trainwreck is right. This game has no subtlety. There is no build up just WHAM dangling it over your face like a
“There’s a mystique to the smokehouse.” That’s MESQUITE, John. 0:29
The story seems to come from Chatgpt
LMAO exactly
So I had assumed that take was being overstated when people first started suggesting it. After all it's fun to dunk on the bad SH show, right?
But having actually watched this now; 100% yes. There's so many weird little incoherent or unnatural dialogue sequences that scream AI.
It's bad in that special way that comes from AI and not just a shit writer.
At best it's AI and someone gave it a quick pass edit to try to make it sound more human but could only do so much.
That's how it feels anyways. They're certainly denying it though.
56:47 I love how it delivers "I've had enough of this" while the camera is still clearly focused on the other character. Poor facial animations are a big wall, but they could've at least had him emote with his hands.
"Structurally, the liquid appears to be an opiate," she said, somehow determining the molecular composition of a fluid with a LIGHT MICROSCOPE which is OFF and also set to the lowest magnification setting... and the lens isn't even properly aligned.
I just realized that John is the only one who I can hear say "gamers", especially in reference to his fans, and it evokes to revulsion in me. That is a poisoned-ass word, and my man can still say it pure.
To your story in the beginning, my jrt was 5 years younger than me. We were like sisters. She was supposed to be my dads dog but i was her favorite. Silly dogs. I love them
I saw the Thumbnail and thought this was main channel video for a second there
Same :(
1:24:43 - Wait, Bad Robot had a hand in this!? That… actually explains so much.
As someone who comes from a family who has had many pets and has always been extremely close to them, Tiggy looks like she was an incredible little dog and if she got to 17 you and your parents gave her a wonderful long life 💖
It is going to be so funny, when the "winner" of the cameo contest, doesn't have a character model as close to what they look like, as that guy in the bar looks like Eyepatch Wolf.
As someone who has been in many twitch chats, I'm very glad to have gotten into a highlight for at least one stream I was in at 32:25
There's something so unintentionally funny about using E3-esq presentation of a Silent Hill Story. "Whatup fellow Gamers,get ready to experienced shared truma and guilt in Silent Hill Ascension!"
Still at the beginning, but this entire concept feels like someone drained the soul out of Questing.
"I know this makes me sound like a psychopath, but i grieved my dying dog" 😂😂 what did he mean by that?
The scariest thing in this video is when John said 2010 was 13 years ago. I don't need this.
around the 1:04:00 minute mark all I can think is "how can she tell it's morphine through a *light* microscope, *God* "
One flaw in an otherwise perfect production, I know
I didn't want to face my trauma together but here we are I guess
What sucks is that IN THEORY this is a cool idea. But it’s so predatory in execution that it just comes off like parody.
Loving the rebrand as Scientology Hill
Pets are family even when you don't want them.
Just like real parents and family.
came here for Silent Hill, stayed for Tiggy